1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Kabbooms. 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to clearinghouse of 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: with Ben Maller starts right now in. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: The air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with me, Ben Mahler 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: in Danny G Radio, as we kick off the weekend 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: festivities here in the Magic pod Box. And you have 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: become a p one by listening to the Fifth Hour podcast. 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: You are a higher level of audio consumer. So we 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: thank you for that. And unfortunately there are days in 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: this goofy, little wacky sports radio business that I've chosen 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: to spend my life in that the sports take can wait. Now. 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: We don't normally get real sporty on the Fifth Hour Podcast. 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: It's more about just things that are out in my 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: world that I share with you, and I thank you 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: for putting up with that. So I'm not going to 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: sit here and talk about a quarterback controversy or a 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: coaching hot seed, or why this team stinks or that 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: team's good, or any of that background noise. It's all 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: background noise because there's something much heavier that happened this week. 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: And this is unfortunately one of those days where and 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: I want to share this with you, and I was 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: going to talk about it on the radio show and 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: it didn't come up in conversation, and I thought this 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: would be the perfect platform to talk about the events 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: that took place this week. So earlier this week, I 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: got a text from a number I did not recognize 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: out of the four to one six that's the area 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: code for Toronto. Now I have some friend in Toronto, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: people I've worked with over the years. Canadian mic comes 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: to mind. But I didn't recognize this number and it 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: wasn't in my phone, so I figured it was spam, 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: And like any good red blooded American or Canadian for 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: that matter, I just decided not to not to answer 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: the thing. I said, I'm not going to respond to 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: the text, and so I thought it was some bot, 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: some spam bot say can I confirm your Costco executive 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: membership number? Or telling me to pay a toll from 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: a road trip I didn't take or warning me that 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the Apple Pay is locked. I don't use Apple Pay, 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: but it's locked, you know the drill. So hours later 46 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: now I got the text. I was sleeping hours later 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: while I was out hustling doing the day to day adulting. 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I was at Costco, because that's what you do when 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: gas is four ninety nine and you're trying to squeeze 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: every penny until Lincoln screams no mob. So I get 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: the call, the same number as before. I was like, well, 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: that's probably not spam. And it wasn't spam. It was 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: my past coming back. It was a voice from the 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association, my buddy Josh, one of 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: the original expansion team guys from twenty five years ago, 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: calling me out of the blue. This guy, Josh's father, 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: was a legendary hockey announcer for the Columbus Blue Jackets 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: who just retired maybe in the last ten years. He 59 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: had worked for a bunch of other teams in the 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: NHL as well, and so Josh worked at our place 61 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: when we started up, and Josh had the kind of 62 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: news that changes the temperature and the automobile the malamobile 63 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: by twenty degrees. So one of our former teammates had 64 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: died and Josh called me to share the news before 65 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: it got out in the media. And it was sudden. 66 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: It was, you know, one of the are you telling 67 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: me the truth kind of thing. I mean that kind 68 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: of thing. You know, this can't be real. There was 69 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: no warning shot, not even a whisper, and just that's it. 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: You know, game over crossed the Great Divide and this one. 71 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: This is one of the weird inconvenient truths about when 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: you get to the age I'm at your friends, your colleges. 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, I lost relatives. I lost aunts, uncles, grandparents, 74 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: things like that. It's a circle of life. And you 75 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: get to my age. Now it's your friends, your colleagues. 76 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: You're really the co stars in the documentary of your life. 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: We're all doing our own documentary, our own life story. 78 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: And in mind, this was one of the people that 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: was a part of it. And these people start disappearing. 80 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: You're like, where did that person go? What happened? In't 81 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: heard from that person? Oh man, And it sneaks up 82 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: on you, it's like, how did that happened? One day, 83 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: you're all a bunch of kids trying to crack the 84 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: code of sports talk radio, trying to make your mark 85 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: in the media business, and you're cracking jokes and eating 86 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Denny's at five in the morning after you worked all night, 87 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: and you're wandering around farting on each other in the hallways, 88 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: and you're doing two or three jobs or eating microwave 89 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: hot pockets, and then suddenly, in my case, I'm still 90 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: holding down the overnight post. I haven't left. And the 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: other people I work with in those days, they've all 92 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: scattered all over the United States and Canada and in 93 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: countries around the world, and they're all building their own lives. 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Many of them already have chasing dreams, living their existence. 95 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: And so this one hurt because the voice that we lost, 96 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: a early Fox Sports Radio voice, belonged to Sarge. He 97 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: was given the birth name Steven Charles Pickman Sarge. If 98 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: you don't know, if you're not familiar with his work, 99 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: a comedian, a performer, and in my book, a Fox 100 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio original. I don't know if he was there 101 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: right when the network started, but he was a total 102 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: mench in every sense of the word. He's born I 103 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: believe he was born like New York, but he was 104 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: I know he was raised on Long Island and had 105 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: a very interesting childhood. We had him on the podcast 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: last year. Sarge was adopted right after birth, and you know, 107 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: he's a kid. He loved entertainment and all that knew. 108 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: He wanted to be a guy holding a microphone and 109 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: told the story that when he was a kid, his 110 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: grandfather took him to the Catskill Mountains where he would 111 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: hang out and that was kind of his playground. And 112 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: then growing up in New York, that's where you go 113 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: and a lot of old school entertainers, the legend of 114 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: the cat Skills, which I don't think is really a 115 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: thing anymore, but back in the day, that was the spot. 116 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: And he was like seven years old and he's sitting 117 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: on a folding chair next to his grandpa watching these 118 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: famous comedians perform. And he then eventually that would be 119 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: his life, that would be his oxygen. And Sarge went 120 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: to Boston University, the School of Public Communications. How about that? 121 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: Look at that, smart, Serge, And and if the movie 122 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: ended there, it's like, okay, well that's fine. You know, 123 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: great kid, big dreams on the up and up, and 124 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: his story and he's been he's very open about it. 125 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Serge the comedian that worked at our place, because his 126 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: life was not a Disney movie. It was not a 127 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: fairy tale. And that's the way life off it is. Right, 128 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: there's plot twist, there's upstairs, downs, the rise, the fall, 129 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: the rise again, and Sarge fell into a diction Hart 130 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: like Serge. We talked off the air a few times like, well, 131 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: you could have been one of my callers, like you 132 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: could have been mouthwash Mike, or beer drinking Ran or 133 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: keg drinking Steve or one of these characters that calls 134 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: the show. He spent part of his young life Sarge homeless, 135 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: literally sleeping in Manhattan under the Manhattan Bridge and doing 136 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: copious amounts of drugs and hovering in the shadowy no 137 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: man's land where people pretend like they don't see you 138 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: and they hope that you don't approach him because you 139 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: look like you haven't showered since the nineties, and for 140 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: many that's where it ends, unfortunately, and he just kind 141 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: of fade out. Game over. Sarge, though, was able to 142 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: pull off one of the great miracles. He back thirty 143 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: some odd years ago. He was really down his luck 144 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: and he had this lightning bolt epiphany the Holy Cow. 145 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: As we say. The term we use on the show 146 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: a lot is they come to Jesus meeting with himself. 147 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: And he decided, it's not Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving has already happened 148 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: back a month ago. It's late December. I'm going to 149 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: have you know, I'm going to have some turkey. I'm 150 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna have a cold turkey. No rehab, no halfway house. 151 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: They don't tell you to do this, no supervised program. 152 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: He just made a decision one day, the day after 153 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Christmas nineteen ninety he said, that's it. I'm done. I'm 154 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: done living this life. I want to do something else. 155 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: And he never looked back. Thirty years of sobriety for 156 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: my man Sarge and just a great mitzvah that that 157 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: he pulled that off. And from that point forward it 158 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: did become a Disney movie. It was. It was someone 159 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: who had turned on the stage lights and yell, all right, serge, 160 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: you're up. And he wrote, produced, performed on the best 161 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: damn sports show period if you remember that show, very 162 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: popular show at the time, and he worked at our 163 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: place at Fox Sports Radio. That's why he was an 164 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: alumni member. He hosted a show, actually did a show 165 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: with Jason Smith in the early and I sat in 166 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: on that show a few times, and we talked a 167 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: lot in the hallways back in the wild early two 168 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: thousands what we call now looking back, we call the 169 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: expansion era of Fox Sports Radio because it started out 170 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: of nowhere, and this is when ESPN Radio was the 171 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Roman Empire and we were the barbarian tribe trying to 172 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: scale the walls, and we didn't have any weapons. We 173 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: just had duct tape and a couple of microphones and 174 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: a VU meter. And the roster back then feels like 175 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: a mythological group of people. We had Kevin Frazier who's 176 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: gone on and done great things in entertainment, Chris Myers 177 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: who does NFL games, the Hall of Famer, the goat 178 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: of sports radio, Tony Bruno, Bob Golick, who was the 179 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: more famous Goliic, more famous than his brother, who would 180 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: be part of the Mike and Mike and rich Arera, 181 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: the great Rich Arero did Tampa Bay Rays baseball for 182 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: years period post Kevin Kylie who Chuck Booms comedian that 183 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: did a lot of great stuff. Andrew Cecilian who's the 184 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: voice of the Cleveland Browns now Steve Zabin, Zabe's an 185 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: all time great what a peach Zabe is And that 186 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: was the kind of line up you look back at 187 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: it now, I was like, Wow, how do we all 188 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: work in the same building and then we violate some 189 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: kind of fire code or something like that. But this 190 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: is about not about those people. It's about Sarge. Sarge 191 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: was right in the middle of all of it. He 192 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: wasn't loud off the air. He had a great shtick, 193 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,239 Speaker 1: not overbearing. He was just present. He was his study, heartbeat, 194 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: a guy very funny obviously as a comedian, and a 195 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: guy whose talent didn't need you know, the loud volume, 196 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. His impersonations were legendary, like 197 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, marv Albert, Gilbert Godfrey. There's some great stories 198 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: about Gilbert Godfreed Kermit the Frog. He could do it all, 199 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: and he went from being homeless. He performed worldwide. He 200 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: performed at the iconic Radio City Music Hall in Manhattan. 201 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: The Major League Baseball All Star Game, they brought Sarge 202 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: out to perform late night TV back when that matted. 203 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: People watch that with Craig Ferguson. There were clubs, theaters, 204 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: cruise ships. He told me his life on the cruise ship. 205 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: And I've repeated that story a few times over the years, 206 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: but how depressing that was. On the cruise ship. You think, Okay, 207 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm on the ocean, I've got my own plays, i 208 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: have to perform a couple shows a night, I've got 209 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: free food and all. That's kind of depressing. And he'd 210 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: performed at cathedrals, temples, retirement communities. He had told me 211 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: his niche was the retirement communities of South Florida. Not 212 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,119 Speaker 1: only retirement hoa's, the Jewish community centers, the condo places 213 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: where audiences really loved this comedian went in and telling 214 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: jokes and gags and all that, and Serge gave them 215 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: what they wanted. It wanted somebody who was warm and 216 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: fun and was a storyteller, and he gave gave that 217 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: to them and anybody that came across Serge. And so 218 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: here's what I want to remember most. Last year I 219 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: had him on this podcast, the Fifth Hour podcast, and 220 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: it was great to catch up and it was one 221 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: of those conversations when you blink and you know, time 222 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: just disappears right. And he told the story about cold calling. 223 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: This is back when you could do this and like 224 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: the I guess the early nineties, he cold called television 225 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: executives because he wanted to work at CB I think 226 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it was CBS, and he ended up getting the job. 227 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: He it was wild, like classic Sarge hustle move off 228 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: the air years when we worked together, he was good 229 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: friends with Gilbert Godfrey. They were all coming up as 230 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: comedians together, Gilbert, Sarge, there were a couple of other 231 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: big names comedians, and Sarge told the story about how 232 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: he and Gilbert were on the boats, the cruise ships, 233 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: and they were all single, and they were trying to 234 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: get Gilbert to hook up with the ladies, unsuccessfully, by 235 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: the way, to try to get Gilbert Godfried, the iconic 236 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: commedey who also just passed away not that long ago, 237 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: to flirt with women. And it went about as well 238 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: as you'd expect. Godfreed, that twitchy, nervous comedic genius. It 239 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: just did not, shall we say, translate into becoming Don 240 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Juan of the Open Seas, just did not. And I 241 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: still smile when I hear Sarge describing what the lengths 242 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: these guys went to try to get Gilbert Godfried to 243 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: have some fun with the ladies. But after we wrapped 244 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: up the pod. That was usually that's it, you know, 245 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: you go your separate way. But Sarge hit the road 246 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and there was I forget the town. He was in 247 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the boondocks outside Boston and he was eating eggs and 248 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: pancakes at some rusty roadside diner and it was during 249 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: football season and they had the TV on and kind 250 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: of flickering behind. He was sitting at the bar and 251 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: they had the TV on. It was an old TV 252 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: and they had they had Benny Versus the Penny, and 253 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: he recognized me, and he didn't know about the show 254 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: because he lived in Miami. We wereent on in Miami, 255 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: and so Sarge's having breakfast at the diner that's probably 256 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: like late at night, and and then he sends me 257 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: a message. He reaches hey, I saw your TV show. 258 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: It's like the absurdity of life. And it was really 259 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: cool that he reached out to me. And I was 260 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: excited that he seemed excited about that. And I was like, oh, yeah, 261 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm a little embarrassed by that, but I don't look 262 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: good on TV. And he's like, yeah, I don't worry 263 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: about it. But that's who he was. He would travel 264 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: as a comedian you travel all over a performer. He 265 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: survived a very hard beginning to his life, well actually 266 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: not even the beginning. He's a good childhood, and then 267 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: went through some stuff, as we all do. But he 268 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: stared down the darkest alley imaginable and walked out the 269 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: other side. It wasn't bitter about it. He used that 270 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: as a launch pad and spent a lot of his 271 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: life giving back to people that were also fighting the demons. 272 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: His last Sergeant's last Facebook post was November twenty seventh. 273 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: He was wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving. He's got a son, 274 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: I was married, obviously, all that, and he said, see 275 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: as soon, Sarge, And that's it, just like that. There 276 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: will not be another post there. There won't be another 277 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: gig in Boca, another impersonation, you know, playing the piano, 278 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. He won't be able to tell 279 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: the stories he told about when he was homeless and 280 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: the things that he had to do in Manhattan and 281 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and all that that ends with what 282 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's just it. And you know, 283 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: a life like Sarge is doesn't vanish. It kind of echoes, right, 284 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: And for those that he came across and in every 285 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: comic who got a break because Sarge encouraged them, and 286 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: people that liked his comedy, the Jewish community centers in Boca, 287 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: in every Fox Sports Radio alum who remembers hanging out 288 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: in the Expansion era as chaotic and messy and hilarious 289 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: and unforgettable, with Sarge being part of that. It's because 290 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: of people like him. And what am I going to 291 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: remember about Sarge? I'm gonna remember everything. And I wanted 292 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: to do this podcast in part so I could put 293 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: my thoughts together about Sarga. The fact that he was 294 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: very tough overcoming the homelessness, his talent as a comedian 295 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: doing impersonations, his kindness, the stories he told me, many 296 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: of them cannot be repeated even in death, from what 297 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: he saw on the road traveling around with other comedians, 298 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: and these were some of the people like became huge stars, 299 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: like Kilbert Godfrey was a megastar, and Sarge was. He 300 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: never got to that level, yet he was around all 301 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: of those people. You know, he was in that. And 302 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: there's these cliques and comedy. You hear comedians talk about 303 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: this all the time, like this group that you're together 304 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: with and your ride and Die group. You all come 305 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: up together as comedians and and so he had that group. 306 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: Many of them went on to these amazing things. And 307 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: he had a great run too. He had a great run. 308 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: And he lived essentially three lives in one. He was 309 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: the beloved kid has adopted but memories of the catskills 310 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: growing up, and then he had the really tough part 311 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: of his life when he was a young adult, and 312 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: then the sober, reborn entertainer who found a way to 313 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: bring joy and did TV and radio and all this stuff. 314 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: And most of us one act. Serge got three and 315 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: should have had a fourth act. And as far as 316 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: I'm concerned, he landed every time. He stuck the landing 317 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: every time. And again he was a mens that's a 318 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: word I guess I've used already, but he's a men's 319 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: that's what he was. And he was one of us, 320 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, he got he loved the radio stuff and 321 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: it was it was fun for him to talk sports, 322 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: and he did it his way. And I just imagine 323 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: now he's performing for the audience beyond the Pearly Gates, 324 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: probably doing a Marv Albert impersonation for Don Rickles. While 325 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: some angels are in the background trying to keep a 326 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: straight face and all that stuff. And so we'll miss 327 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: your Serge. But I'm glad that our lives crossed. Path 328 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: our paths crossed in life, I should say, And and 329 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: what a life you lived. And my condolence is to 330 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: your son and your your wife and everyone that is 331 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: closer than I am to you. But I'm really really 332 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: happy I had you on the podcast, and rest in 333 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: peace to the great Serge. So turning the page on 334 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: that listen, there's no good transaction or transition, I should say, 335 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: or transaction, but we lose people every year in sports 336 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: as well. It's the rhythm of time, right, the drum beat. 337 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: This is very depressing podcast, but just bear with I 338 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: don't think it's that depressent because this is part of life, right, 339 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: You live, you die, That's how it goes. So the 340 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: drum beat that none of us can muffle, even though 341 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: we all try to muffle it, you know. I was like, Oh, 342 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen to me. It happens to you. 343 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes the news comes in bunches, they say in Hollywood, 344 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: it happens in threes. Well, this is sports and this 345 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: is entertainment. And you know, these things roll in like 346 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: waves and refuse to stop crashing. So this week it 347 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: wasn't just Sarge. The last like two weeks, it wasn't 348 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: just Serge the Fox Sports Radio original. We just talked 349 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: about who crossed the invisible boundary. There were two men 350 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: that I was not friends with, but professionally I talked 351 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: to them quite a bit. They were playing a sport 352 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: I was a young reporter. These are two men who 353 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: we covered two fixtures from the years when the NBA 354 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: still smelled like rosin and adrenaline and they didn't do 355 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: load management and all that, and when the forum buzzed 356 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: even during lean times. We lost Elvin Campbell and also 357 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: a player that he played against who spent a lot 358 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: of time at the LA Memorial Sports Arena with the 359 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: people's team, the Clippers, Rodney Rogers. Two entirely different spirits 360 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: tied together now by memory, and I wanted to give 361 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: a mention. I figured, hey, we're talking about Serge, and 362 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: these things came across Elden Campbell. His death was like, 363 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute, he wasn't sick or anything like. He drowned. 364 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: And we found out this week that Elvin drowned. He 365 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: was fifty seven, born in Inglewood, went to Clemson, played 366 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: for the hometown team from his childhood, the Lakers, and 367 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: we covered Eldon at a time when the Lakers were 368 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: stuck in NBA purgatory. The historians it was like this 369 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: dead zone between the Magic showtime Lakers with Kareem and 370 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: Worthy in those guys and the volcanic arrival of Shaq 371 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: and Kobe, and the Forum in those years wasn't quite 372 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: as Hollywood. You still had Jack and Diane. Cannon was 373 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: out there in a few of the celebrities, but it 374 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: was pretty much at a holding pattern. You had Eldon 375 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: and Club said, Cedric Sabalos was there, and they were 376 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: the Constance and Nick van Exell, and so they had 377 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: some anchors. They weren't great, they were mediocre, and Elvin 378 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: was the guy that they thought was going to be 379 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: really good. He was a gentle, giant seven footer, built 380 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: like a bank vault, and his temperament was not alpha. 381 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: He was pretty pretty mellow. More than once. You'd walk 382 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: into the form locker room, I go there do the 383 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: pregame stuff, and Elden would be sitting at his locker 384 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: in full uniform, sleeping, sitting up. I still remember that. 385 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: I can close my eyes and see that grabbing a 386 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: cat nap before the night shift. And he treated the 387 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: NBA pregame like a Sunday afternoon siesta and that mellow vibe. 388 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: The Lakers always wanted him to be a more aggressive player, 389 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: but that was just not his personality. It wasn't. And 390 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: the greatest Elden Campbell quote was when somebody interviewed him 391 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: and he asked Eldon. They said, hey, Eldon, did you 392 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: earned a degree there at Clemson? And in that slow, 393 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: kind of bashful tone, he delivered one of the all 394 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: time great lines. Elden Campbell, when asked about his degree 395 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: from Clemson, said it has to be earned it he said, nope, 396 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: but they gave me one anyway. That's pretty good. That's 397 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quote right there. That is it's 398 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: a malarism waiting to happen, and that's that's Eldon. And 399 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: I did that dead, dead pan comedy and delivered. You know, 400 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: he had some big nights and the he played fifteen 401 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: years in the NBA. But he leaves behind a wife 402 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: and four kids and a bunch of siblings and all 403 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: that and an entire generation of historian Laker historians who 404 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: will not put him on murals like Kobe and all that, obviously, 405 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: but they remember those years and Eldon wasn't flashy, and 406 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: he wasn't It wasn't Neon, wasn't Hollywood, even though he 407 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: grew up in Inglewood. He was studying and he had 408 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: some he had good numbers, but not great numbers as 409 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: a player. And then there's Rodney Rogers, and I was 410 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: around Rodney a lot too. Rodney came to La like 411 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: a kid walking into Disneyland holding the Golden ticket. You 412 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: got a golden ticket. He didn't know he had the 413 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: golden ticket, but boy was he happy with it. Fresh 414 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: off the plane from Denver, he played for the Nuggets, 415 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: eyes wide open. I remember they had a news conference. 416 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: The Clippers had traded Antonio mcdice the number two pick 417 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: to Denver. They got Brent Barry. He was part of that. 418 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: Brian Williams, who would be murdered on a boat I believe, 419 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: was also on that trade. And then Rodney Rogers and 420 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Rodney I remember they had a news comers at a 421 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: hotel in downtown LA and he was so you know, 422 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: eyes wide open. It's like he'd just seen the Pacific 423 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: for the first time. I was like, dude, you've been 424 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: in the NBA for a couple of years, you've seen LA. 425 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: And he was like a small town guy. He's from 426 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: North Carolina, and you know, North Carolina does produce some 427 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: tough people, grounded people, and LA is a different solar 428 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: system when you're from North Carolina. And Rodney looked around 429 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: like he had been launched into orbit. I remember the look, 430 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: and very nice man, built like a Donnis kind soul 431 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: player that could bulldoze you like like a runway shopping 432 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: cart one minute and then stretched the floor the next. 433 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: And there was not a lot of arrogance. There was 434 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: no pretense. He was appreciative of the moment and the 435 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: journey and all that. And he had a very difficult life. Also, 436 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, he got a tough hand Rodney. After he 437 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: I think he was already out of the NBA, but 438 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: he had an ATV accident and he was paralyzed and 439 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: from the neck down. He was paralyzed, confined to a wheelchair. 440 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: And most people would crumble and be like, oh man, 441 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't go on, But Rodney didn't. He 442 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: radiated positivity and became a beacon for people that went 443 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: through a similar situation. And he had really a lousy 444 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: hand of cards tossed at him, you know, twos and 445 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: threes across the board. It was not good there, and 446 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: still found a way to smile. And that's the kind 447 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: of internal wiring that you can't teach, right, You can't 448 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: coach that that and you don't know that you have it, 449 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: or you don't have it until something happens. So, couple 450 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: of guys, couple of stories I wanted to share with you, 451 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I wasn't friendly with these guys, but 452 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: I ask him, Hey, what happened on that play in 453 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter? Why'd you guys lose the game? That 454 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: kind of bull crap. And in the days before social 455 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: media and all that good stuff. So rest rest easy, 456 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Eldon Campbell, Rest easy, Rodney Rogers. The scoreboard of life 457 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: does not tell you the whole story. The people who 458 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: knew you will tell the whole story. So on that 459 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: will put the baby to bed. And I think I've 460 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: done enough eulogies for the year, so let's try out 461 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: to have anyone remember last year we had a bunch 462 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: of callers die at the end end of the year. Man, 463 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: it was very depressing, and so Sarge Eldon Campbell, Rodney 464 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: Rogers a melancholy edition of the Fifth Hour. But we'll 465 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: have some fun on the Saturday Pod. Hopefully you can 466 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: join us for that. Have a great rest of your day. 467 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: Aloha mahalo Later skater, Did I get that right? Danny? Now? 468 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: Is it? Osta pasta? Now? All right? Osta pasta? Boom? 469 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: You fired? Got a murder. I gotta go.