Speaker 1: Get get no Boys, it's back and rehoaded all in
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets,
Speaker 1: the real the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escapegoating,
Speaker 1: and they ain't know when we speak the truth, so
Speaker 1: they quoted because we wrote it. The North South East
Speaker 1: coat is the g b my keeping your head bobbing.
Speaker 1: It ain't no stopping and wants to be drops head by.
Speaker 1: And then the system is so corrupt they throw the
Speaker 1: rock out of their heads and then blame it on us.
Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and we danced for
Speaker 1: no furntament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in
Speaker 1: the building. Collectively we are the ghetto Boys. Reloaded, Reloaded
Speaker 1: with another episode of information and instructions to help you
Speaker 1: navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio,
Speaker 1: Devin the the Dude, What's What's what's up? Cool? And man?
Speaker 1: Good to be here, Man, damn. This is one of
Speaker 1: the most unique voices in hip hop ever. One of
Speaker 1: the most talented guys I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 1: Kevin the Dude, Oh man, I appreciate it, sir man,
Speaker 1: good looking out man. I had had wonderful mentorship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, coming
Speaker 1: up wrap a lot. Yeah, Man, y'all was the epitome,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And everybody in Houston, in Texas,
Speaker 1: in the South actually wanted to be a part of
Speaker 1: the movement. Ya was, y'all was having Man y'all was
Speaker 1: like trimp setters, y'all groundbreaking, set the blueprint of independent
Speaker 1: rap period. I first heard Devin on um a song
Speaker 1: um he said, uh, and when you finished white in
Speaker 1: my dick all turned the channel twenty. It's all as
Speaker 1: I don't want to get off. That's what I like saying. Man, Now,
Speaker 1: what do you first meet that I don't remember. I
Speaker 1: think we were Digital Services a studio that we record.
Speaker 1: We were recording that because I know he remembered what
Speaker 1: are you high when when you met? She definitely would remember, uh,
Speaker 1: digital services, Yeah, but I don't remember what. Yeah, John Ryan,
Speaker 1: Yeah much love Big Chicken, Big Chicken. That wasn't Big
Speaker 1: Chicken when that digital He came later with Mike, No,
Speaker 1: he came in. He came to hippie house. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Big Chicken. Cut all these fingers off, man, What do
Speaker 1: you mean? I said, That's what I said. He cut
Speaker 1: the fucking fingers off, bro. And he was a hell
Speaker 1: of a guitarist because cut his fingers out by accident.
Speaker 1: You know, you worked with that would cut his fingers off.
Speaker 1: He helped build built the Hippie house. But with him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out the big chicken. Let's take it back there,
Speaker 1: let's go back to punt at Michigan. You know what,
Speaker 1: I get that a lot, man, because you know, you
Speaker 1: look at my Wikipedia page or whatever. Were you born
Speaker 1: in Punty? Yes, but you were raised in St. Petersburg. Yes.
Speaker 1: I am the only uh sibling of mine just was
Speaker 1: born in Punty. Nobody in my family ever was born
Speaker 1: in Pty. Uh. My mom was pregnant with me at
Speaker 1: the time, and we were all from St. Petersburg, Florida.
Speaker 1: The car industry was booming, and I think my my
Speaker 1: my dad was trying to get a job and my
Speaker 1: my grandfather was living in Michigan at the time. So
Speaker 1: Mama that was pregnant with me moved to uh, moved
Speaker 1: to a Punty act just you know, for the summer,
Speaker 1: you know, and so he could get a job and
Speaker 1: try to get situated, but they didn't. They didn't like
Speaker 1: it was too cold, and it was she was just
Speaker 1: she was uncomfortable and she just decided as soon as
Speaker 1: I was born, she was gonna go back to Florida.
Speaker 1: So after two months or so, uh, when we'll move
Speaker 1: back to Florida. So is that where the majority of
Speaker 1: your family is? Yeah, that's most of my family in
Speaker 1: East Texas, Texas, Canada. Uh yeah, yeah, we kind of
Speaker 1: migrated from there. My grandmother started migrating for Florida back
Speaker 1: in like seventy nine, seven, seventy eight, seventy something like that.
Speaker 1: Texas Lefkin, I'm pretty sure I do. Yeah, we'll be
Speaker 1: doing a lot of but I'm pretty sure I got
Speaker 1: somebody in loving this kind. Yeah, so you left immediately,
Speaker 1: your mom left once she had you, and then you're
Speaker 1: in St. Petersburg. How long are you that before you
Speaker 1: make them jump to Houston? And there in the middle
Speaker 1: third grade going to fourth grade? Okay, third grade, going
Speaker 1: to fourth grade. And uh, my my grandmother we called
Speaker 1: her Mama Candy. She moved first. She once she was
Speaker 1: really in the in the church scene, holding this church.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to five five times a day, five times
Speaker 1: a week. You know, they go to church. You know,
Speaker 1: she was real you know, you know, Christian, and she
Speaker 1: moved because they had lack of things, saying that Florida
Speaker 1: was gonna end up being submerged and water and stuff
Speaker 1: was going to be wiped out or back then there
Speaker 1: was there's a lot of Evangelus, a lot of Christian tense,
Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff going on back then. So
Speaker 1: she she moved with with with her family, all uncles, stuff.
Speaker 1: They moved, and she was trying to get my mother
Speaker 1: to come, trying to get so hard to give my
Speaker 1: mother to come to Texas. And they had had some
Speaker 1: land out in Douglas Field, Texas a hundred and nine people.
Speaker 1: So they just boom it still it might be two
Speaker 1: hundred people now that will be will be here. But
Speaker 1: cas the boe we cause the boom, you know, he
Speaker 1: went from you people. Man, that's you know, you know
Speaker 1: they you know cousins and stuff. They you know, they're
Speaker 1: doing the country with their cousins. I was just looking,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy. But yeah, man, uh but much love
Speaker 1: to the like the Washingtons and the Drayton's and you
Speaker 1: know the families out there in Douglas Ville. Uh. They
Speaker 1: was neighbors and they kind of taught us how to
Speaker 1: kind of live off the land. Man. You know, we
Speaker 1: was from the city where you know when they really
Speaker 1: know what was that. We know we had to chop
Speaker 1: wood to get ready for the winter. We know we
Speaker 1: had to plant a lot of seeds and go in
Speaker 1: the garden and take care of it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was just fun at first. My grandmother had me out
Speaker 1: there picking purple hoole peas and with a purple and
Speaker 1: I was just having fun. And then the second week
Speaker 1: or so, it wasn't so fun. It wasn't so fun.
Speaker 1: It was like, man, it was like work work, And
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, it was well water all that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it was I had
Speaker 1: to go next door and my grandmother made preservatives and
Speaker 1: I had to go next door to take the preservatives
Speaker 1: over there and to trade them off for for eggs.
Speaker 1: This is Douglasville, Texas. It's right, it's a town. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's smaller than the town? I don't know, but that's
Speaker 1: where that is. The biggest time was it was called
Speaker 1: New Boston and we eventually moved moved to the Victor
Speaker 1: but much love to other people in Boston too, man, Boston, Texas.
Speaker 1: But it was we had, you know, walked a mile
Speaker 1: down the dirt road just to get on the bus
Speaker 1: to travel thirty miles to school every day you went
Speaker 1: to school out there. Yeah, Atlanta Rabbits. Much love to
Speaker 1: Atlanta Rabbits. As my first Texas school ever, you know,
Speaker 1: and it was the elementary school. And then uh, eventually
Speaker 1: we moved to New Boston. Uh New Boston Lions, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that. Then uh, after that, my
Speaker 1: mom was like she she just wanted to get away.
Speaker 1: She needed somewhere bigger to stay with a lot of
Speaker 1: kids and stuff. She had our kids. So she layed
Speaker 1: at the job in Houston and like eighty two, eight one,
Speaker 1: eighty two, you got a job like in Houston, and
Speaker 1: like eighty three, we just started coming, you know. She
Speaker 1: she moved us in, she said for us, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, start chilling in Houston and back then every
Speaker 1: time we get in trouble, my mom was sending us
Speaker 1: to the country to New Boston. So I was going
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth from Houston to New Boston,
Speaker 1: Texas until I graduated. Yeah, and when I graduated. I had.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get out of there. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, shout out talking to Rhode Dogson
Speaker 1: New Boston too. Man, what what what made you want
Speaker 1: to start rapping down? Um? And when did you know that?
Speaker 1: You was like, really fucking dope? You know what? What
Speaker 1: when did I start rapping? Maybe start rap? Actually? I
Speaker 1: was breakdancing, you know, even from Florida coming to Texas.
Speaker 1: Were just know we was we were just doing a
Speaker 1: robot and stuff like that. We had groups and my
Speaker 1: my older brother Donny, you know, not a chilling cool
Speaker 1: and the mother that's why most of my stuff, that's
Speaker 1: where I get it from. The d lack what man?
Speaker 1: You know what before I left, when she I went,
Speaker 1: she sent for me before my mom, my mom and
Speaker 1: the rest of my family came to Texas. So she
Speaker 1: kept sit sending for me. She promised me a shelling pony. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like I wanted and I wanted I
Speaker 1: always wanted one. She I never got it, but she
Speaker 1: she bought me up there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She got And then then I realized what it was. Uh,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really a chilling point. It was something bigger
Speaker 1: than that, but it was something to ride off with.
Speaker 1: It was something significant and it kind of meant the
Speaker 1: same thing because that shed the pony did back then.
Speaker 1: It took me a long time to realize what it was,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was. You know, she didn't allow
Speaker 1: me to have circule of music. I couldn't we couldn't play.
Speaker 1: I feel like circular circular. I mean like what what
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like, what's bigger than the
Speaker 1: Shelling Pony? What are you talking about? Okay? The Shelling
Speaker 1: Pony to me as a kid, was big enough for
Speaker 1: me to get on and ride around and show off
Speaker 1: and I can. It's like a ride to me as
Speaker 1: as a kid. You always think about like a horse,
Speaker 1: but it's not a big, intimidating horse. It's a cute
Speaker 1: little pony that you can ride and you know you can.
Speaker 1: You can still maneuver and just have fun with it.
Speaker 1: And I always wanted one, you know, back then it
Speaker 1: was like many bikes and stuff and go across something
Speaker 1: you can get on the ride. Shelling Pony was like
Speaker 1: a little ride to me that I wasn't intimidated body
Speaker 1: because when they came from Florida to Texas a big
Speaker 1: horse and it was the bigger, but the selling pony
Speaker 1: was cool. I can get on it and I never
Speaker 1: got it, but she she instilled in me a ride
Speaker 1: that I had I can have for life. It wasn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't selling pony, it wasn't the horse. It wasn't nothing.
Speaker 1: That's that you can literally drive or ride. But it's
Speaker 1: a simple in life. Yes, It's like I had to
Speaker 1: go to church every every day. I went like three
Speaker 1: or four times a week. I kept falling asleep in church.
Speaker 1: She kept hitting me, getting getting me up to the
Speaker 1: point where she talked to her to the to the
Speaker 1: pastor and asked if I could join the choir. And
Speaker 1: I was the only kid in the choir because I
Speaker 1: kept falling asleep and the churn and see was embarrassing
Speaker 1: want that. She just would stand up and saying, you know,
Speaker 1: so I was the only kid in there me And uh,
Speaker 1: what other kid was that? Maybe? Uh thinker? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah he was like he played tampaein too, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish your solo. Do you remember you know what
Speaker 1: funny you ask? It was something really simple? He was
Speaker 1: so many times I did not have a time you
Speaker 1: know what I told nobody, But he gave me a try,
Speaker 1: and I did not have to die, you know what
Speaker 1: I do, but something like real simple and I'm bless Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm blessing, you know, something real simple. But he used
Speaker 1: cold back then I wrote the church up. But there
Speaker 1: was a holy dis church when they running around and
Speaker 1: fast speaking time. I didn't understand that, you know, fell
Speaker 1: church sleep, but I ain't never you know, but it
Speaker 1: was interesting to watch and it was just really really
Speaker 1: you know, it was just the spirit was there and
Speaker 1: it was just music for the most part. And then
Speaker 1: you know, just when I go to church. Do you
Speaker 1: ever go to church? Hal, No, I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: go to the church. Half when I started getting high,
Speaker 1: stopped going to church. Stop going to church. My getting happens.
Speaker 1: The reason I don't know, well, you know, and then
Speaker 1: later I'll go to church. Cut your snap, m you
Speaker 1: cut your snap. I caught my snap. Cut your snap
Speaker 1: exactly like I'm going to church. What the hell is
Speaker 1: that going to this? No, that ain't there. Den theyve
Speaker 1: got some weed in his pocket and and and a
Speaker 1: cooler full of bill in the car right here. I
Speaker 1: remember when I first heard um fat enough for everybody.
Speaker 1: I heard the original alright, squad questions, love Baby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and and I thought it was the most
Speaker 1: UM original shift I had ever heard. And Um, I
Speaker 1: heard Dare's voice. Man, I wanted to put Devin and
Speaker 1: and d MG and a couple more Smitty and a
Speaker 1: couple more UM artists were unique voices in this group. Man.
Speaker 1: And we started making records, Man, and the ship started
Speaker 1: sounding better and better and better and better, and we
Speaker 1: ended up naming the group Face Monk. And Um, I
Speaker 1: just saw I just saw something in Devon, you know,
Speaker 1: back when I guess nobody's seen that ship because we
Speaker 1: actually sat down and did a solo album together. And
Speaker 1: then that's when I really had the opportunity there to
Speaker 1: see how dope Devin was. Man, and the first song
Speaker 1: the Dude, you know, remember Wayne played the horn on
Speaker 1: the ship and then they played the bass on the ship.
Speaker 1: Got talented family. I got talented in my family. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, uncle uncle Wayne died and and Man, I
Speaker 1: know he would be super proud to to to know
Speaker 1: that you took your career into your own hands and
Speaker 1: and and started making albums and moving forward rather than
Speaker 1: doing like a whole lot of other artists. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: that just ended up saying, you know what, man, fun
Speaker 1: this music ship, I'm gonna give me a job. And
Speaker 1: you you you knew what you had and you stood
Speaker 1: on that ship. Man. That was that's that's just so
Speaker 1: dope to me. There. You was pretty much one of
Speaker 1: the biggest influences of that. I never thought to be
Speaker 1: a solo artists. I never wanted to be so large.
Speaker 1: Always wanted to be in a group great to assay, basketball,
Speaker 1: football group. I just want to be a good team
Speaker 1: member and everything, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 1: found like a cool group with Oscar rob Quest and
Speaker 1: when who was like solid and when you came on
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, y'all are dope. Man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You you're a dope. You really
Speaker 1: kind of like, say, man, you you ever thought about
Speaker 1: doing a solo solo album? You asked me. I like
Speaker 1: and not really, you know, saying I would like the
Speaker 1: group I say, he said, you said, man, man, you'll
Speaker 1: be a dope solr this man just just think just
Speaker 1: think on him. And I pondered on it, but I
Speaker 1: never gave it a thought. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: passed that on the jail or something. But I know
Speaker 1: he asked me one time too at digital in the
Speaker 1: parking lot. I said, damn, you was thinking about going solo.
Speaker 1: And before I can answer it, um beatose brother, rest
Speaker 1: in peace. Man, You're like, definit ain't ready? Man, three
Speaker 1: two terms? It's three two terms? Uh the beat brother,
Speaker 1: he's passed well, so man, Tenny saying something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that really, yeah, because I think he
Speaker 1: was done with three too, right. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know how he wouldn't. I don't want to say the wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get it. But it was it
Speaker 1: was something by that short price getting dude gangster type. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's on three two. It's three two up next
Speaker 1: and I was like, you talking about nig We didn't
Speaker 1: even talk to me. Yeah, I'm ready to Jay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Man. I don't know what the you know, man,
Speaker 1: because we just kind of got into it and men,
Speaker 1: he was about to, you know, go at it with words,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't thinking about the solo until you know
Speaker 1: he's talking, Devin, ain't ready. It's three to surting to go.
Speaker 1: You know, you know who's next, I like, no, hell,
Speaker 1: it must have been really hot man, because I've never
Speaker 1: seen well. It was some inside stuff, man, Man, I
Speaker 1: love three too. That's my that's my nigger man. But
Speaker 1: it was rest in peace three man. You know, he
Speaker 1: delved for the city man, he really represent but it
Speaker 1: was some internal stuff that you know. He was kind
Speaker 1: of going at me with I shook it off, shook
Speaker 1: it off here, You'll never know, bring it on. He
Speaker 1: was talking about me, yeah, you know in his first
Speaker 1: couple of lines, because he was free with just freestyle,
Speaker 1: gonna bring it on. And he came in. He came
Speaker 1: in digital and listened to everybody's verses and then he
Speaker 1: stopped after the art score he heard uh. Then he
Speaker 1: he said, let me go in there and he started rapping.
Speaker 1: But it was something you know, Damn, I see it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm at the window of your cocks and caddy.
Speaker 1: You heard I roll a fatty. I was a fast
Speaker 1: squab twist this meet, and they can need a fast
Speaker 1: squab twist. The wonder fun this system made a fusty
Speaker 1: but you know what that And then you came in
Speaker 1: like you heard I roll a fatty. Now I'm at
Speaker 1: the window the cocks like I've no known who got it, nobody.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the case. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no if but Devin, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: ride with that one man. I hope it's you know,
Speaker 1: I would like to say, I would like to say,
Speaker 1: you're probably right, but no, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: It was just like a competition at the time, a
Speaker 1: friendly competition. It wasn't nothing personal, but he really wanted
Speaker 1: to He wanted to be up next, you know, either
Speaker 1: with the convicts or whatever. He he really had a
Speaker 1: lot of thrive and wanted to whoever in my way
Speaker 1: up in the fresh. But three two was really really cool.
Speaker 1: I mean he freestyled off the top, like really just
Speaker 1: lasting everybody. We had fun. He's coming to rob House
Speaker 1: all the time. Him and Big mikey byby hot but
Speaker 1: they left weight. We freestyle, drank smoke. But we was
Speaker 1: really cool. We was all cousins. We was all like
Speaker 1: hip hop cousins, and it was all friendly. But that line,
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of about be you know,
Speaker 1: because but I never said this thing, and I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, if it wasn't really now impact, I know
Speaker 1: you said something one of your songs. Man, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to hear. I'm trying to remember all these songs.
Speaker 1: But you probably responded no no, no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no. It didn't It didn't deserve a respond
Speaker 1: never ever, ever. And I never got offended. I never
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I wish I had a chance to
Speaker 1: go back in the boot. That was the thing I felt.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was it was. It was another man, man,
Speaker 1: What's love? What's the three too? Man? It was really
Speaker 1: compos reloged podcast when be right back after the poet?
Speaker 1: You got a cult following the devil like and you
Speaker 1: got mixed U When when when we look out into
Speaker 1: the crowd of your contructs, you see everybody. I think
Speaker 1: that you have tapped into a market for everybody, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's at your show, bro, and everybody's high.
Speaker 1: I think that's the bridge, you know, not only getting
Speaker 1: high but having a good time, having a good time. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't really get I don't really get into a
Speaker 1: lot of racial stuff, you know, but you know, to me,
Speaker 1: a color is just a color. You know, a person
Speaker 1: as a person. Uh, there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: good and bad, and every race and create or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I try a lot of people. Everybody's in your crowd.
Speaker 1: It's well diversed. You have a cult following. Bro. Like,
Speaker 1: every time I called that, well what what what David Man?
Speaker 1: David I don't do I'm like, fuck, when does he
Speaker 1: have time to record? You're always on tour, fucking dope.
Speaker 1: Damn you got fans all over the world and the music.
Speaker 1: I like mingling with him too. Man, after the show,
Speaker 1: just getting right off the stage and going straight out there,
Speaker 1: you know, before they clean up a club and kick everybody.
Speaker 1: I like to go round that, you know, go out
Speaker 1: and just you know, show up, just to you know,
Speaker 1: touch them and take pictures and just I mean, if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for them, man, it just appreciate it at
Speaker 1: this day and age, at my you know, this point
Speaker 1: in my life, at this you know, the age that
Speaker 1: I am to be appreciated for the past music. It's just,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't ask for that, nails. You know,
Speaker 1: it would be selfish of me to just and you know,
Speaker 1: get off the stage and just go and get my
Speaker 1: money and gip to the next show. Now it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more than that. You had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to work with Dr Dre Yes, sir, yes, sir, that
Speaker 1: was a he was that experience. I was wonderful. That
Speaker 1: was wonderful. That was about um Actually it was I
Speaker 1: was just at at the crib man. That was a
Speaker 1: crib nineties something like that somewhere. But then and a
Speaker 1: call from rapping Lot. It was Rico. I'm much love
Speaker 1: Ricos who you know? Uh? He just he said, damn
Speaker 1: um man. Dr Trey about to get ready to call you. Man,
Speaker 1: he WoT you work on me on his is that
Speaker 1: when I was like you you're ship and like you
Speaker 1: ain't you? He said, no, man, I ain't. I'm for real,
Speaker 1: stay by the phone. He's gonna call you. So our
Speaker 1: pass two hours pass. I'm like, man, and I know
Speaker 1: he just watching him. I was checking from see it
Speaker 1: was April first or whatever. I like, all right, let
Speaker 1: me see so I totally forgot about it. Three hours
Speaker 1: pass whatever, vone rang, I'm not Salni. I just picked
Speaker 1: hello Yo, it's Devin. Yeah, and just do what do
Speaker 1: fuck you do? Yo? Tray kicking the you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that break back the boys, just as I
Speaker 1: did that on this And it was just trigling me
Speaker 1: just like Dr Trey. And I heard you say when
Speaker 1: you was talking about Rico told you that Drey was
Speaker 1: gonna call you, he sounded like yes, some excitement he bus,
Speaker 1: But that's not how Rico talked. Sometimes. That car was
Speaker 1: more like a Drey about to call you. Yeah, pick
Speaker 1: up the phone. It was more, it was very a
Speaker 1: lot more reserved, more and more reserved. But back then
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was you know, he bore,
Speaker 1: laid back. Now yeah he just started looking and getting strong.
Speaker 1: He got didn't got muscles now and an energy. Yeah
Speaker 1: he'd rather let him or wait. But yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he called and you got in touch with me man
Speaker 1: and told me about the project and man, flow out
Speaker 1: that man, that was incredible. Man, that experience, I'm sure
Speaker 1: just to see him work, to see him work. You
Speaker 1: said you got to call in two thousand and seventeen,
Speaker 1: But the chronic didn't come out to two thousand one
Speaker 1: word one, not at nine nine or something like along.
Speaker 1: It was because my album was out, you know, my
Speaker 1: albums out. So that's why you were, like, dude, what
Speaker 1: you wanted? Dude? Like I heard that for us like
Speaker 1: Dray kicking. But yeah, man, he said, he really you know,
Speaker 1: he was listening to us as the Odd Squad. He said,
Speaker 1: he had our first demo tape. I'm telling you, bro,
Speaker 1: I had that motherfucker' Snoop. I was listening to that
Speaker 1: on the first Chronic tour. They were listening to the
Speaker 1: Odd Squad you know, demo tape before you came out.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, yeah, no, dad, y'all. Man, that
Speaker 1: fucking blood blood smoking that we feeling fine? Got me
Speaker 1: a party in the bad as that ship there, man, Wow,
Speaker 1: him the Snoop Snoop told me that they used to
Speaker 1: listen to Pushy like Dope all the time, that pussy
Speaker 1: like dope and uh smoking a weird yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was that was That was good, just good to hear,
Speaker 1: just that he was listening or heard about me. Man,
Speaker 1: it was just wow. Besides the fact that you went
Speaker 1: down and you discovered that he was a huge fan
Speaker 1: of yours. What's one of the things that surprised you
Speaker 1: most about Dre, not not not even necessarily as a professional,
Speaker 1: just as a person. What's one of the things that
Speaker 1: because you know, because Drey is pretty much an introvert
Speaker 1: compared to a lot of celebrities and superstars, but inside
Speaker 1: inside of the studio itself, I'd never really just cheered
Speaker 1: with Drey on the outside of the studio chilling vibe
Speaker 1: and or whatever. But I know on the inside it's
Speaker 1: just total control of of of of of the music
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. We'll have six seven people in there.
Speaker 1: Everybody's on the instrument, somebody's on the base, somebody's on
Speaker 1: a good start, somebody's on the keyboard. I had male
Speaker 1: man on the imp, somebody on the upright base, most
Speaker 1: upbreak base. And they he gave me a debt, a
Speaker 1: debt tape, and he and him and when he gave
Speaker 1: it to the engineer, the engineer putting, and he gave
Speaker 1: me a piece of paper with what was onto that
Speaker 1: tape was like a hundred and seven numbers, all skeletons. Now,
Speaker 1: he was like a minute and a half a minute here,
Speaker 1: you know, all skeleton songs with maybe five six instruments
Speaker 1: at the most in it. And he said, if you
Speaker 1: hear something, you're like, man, just living there. We're like,
Speaker 1: oh man, you know what I'm saying. So they started playing,
Speaker 1: you know, they kept going, and they only played like
Speaker 1: ten seconds of each to see if I like. And
Speaker 1: I couldn't really get a chance to absorb each one
Speaker 1: because they were dope, but I couldn't, like try to
Speaker 1: feel it, so I can probably play some money right there.
Speaker 1: So he's going through it, and they got like seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: and I'm mail man, say go back to numer twelve. Man,
Speaker 1: he was feeling in twelve. Went back to number twelve
Speaker 1: and he was do do do do? Do? Do? Do? Do?
Speaker 1: I just want to like, he said, you like that,
Speaker 1: like that's dope. Coom boom. He'd shut everything down and
Speaker 1: he told everybody about the number boom and everybody just
Speaker 1: got to their position and start redoing that song, and
Speaker 1: to play the song longer, stopping it too fast, Give
Speaker 1: me thirty seconds, let me let me feel it. Me
Speaker 1: say something, I mean, how arrogant? Would I know? It's
Speaker 1: just like I was just honored. I was just honored, man,
Speaker 1: But I was afraid I have to listen to all
Speaker 1: this stuff. How are you going to choose a song
Speaker 1: to two hundred and seven trade? Trade? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Nicole is part about Dre. Dre would start
Speaker 1: to he would put the daddy in and just press
Speaker 1: record and just make ship. You know this ship, so
Speaker 1: it ain't no tilling what's on them? And I don't
Speaker 1: know tell you what though. And after that, I don't
Speaker 1: want to give his a game away and I'm no,
Speaker 1: yeah man. But look after that, you know, we decided,
Speaker 1: you know what, we don't go with and we did
Speaker 1: the song. I'll come back to the actual song. But
Speaker 1: he started having like a studio session where he just
Speaker 1: had Maleman was on there on the beat, the tempo
Speaker 1: was made, the eighty five tempo, have that going. Boom,
Speaker 1: He'll just he'll just get the tip altogether. Boom mill Man,
Speaker 1: come up with it like a beat. He'll wait, We'll say,
Speaker 1: he'll just wait and if it ain't right, it's a look.
Speaker 1: It's like a feeling, and he'll know what it's right
Speaker 1: because here, you know, something to do. Point base player,
Speaker 1: coom boom. He pointed the other keyboard toom. He came
Speaker 1: to the jam and then the guitar. Let's start doing.
Speaker 1: And then by the time you know, it's like six
Speaker 1: seven people in that Chamman, and they went for like
Speaker 1: three minutes and they'll stop. The whole ship's boom. Let's
Speaker 1: start back over again with another temple eighty eight eighties,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and and then point over here he
Speaker 1: did like seven songs and ten minutes, six songs and
Speaker 1: ten minutes skeletons, and I was like, oh, that's how
Speaker 1: we got you know what. But it was so fucking cold,
Speaker 1: and he chorreographed that ship to the t and he
Speaker 1: was like, he's a man. I never seen Quincy Jones
Speaker 1: work man was you got? This is why I took
Speaker 1: offense to this video that I watched yesterday. I don't
Speaker 1: know the guy's name, but he said that R and
Speaker 1: B artists we're talented, and hip hop artists was cool.
Speaker 1: It's like he was like he was talking about the
Speaker 1: difference between the two genres, and it was almost like
Speaker 1: what he was implying that hip hop artists didn't really
Speaker 1: have talent. It's just we made it something cool. We
Speaker 1: made music cool, We we did something cool, not necessarily
Speaker 1: that hip hop artists were talented talented, and that what
Speaker 1: he just said. Uh, totally distraught that philosophy, Uh, that
Speaker 1: theory that he has right like saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just just cool, Like, yeah, it's some cats out
Speaker 1: there that's that bank on't just trying to be cool,
Speaker 1: that personality or whatever. But I know, I know, I
Speaker 1: know some artists. I bet your ass can right that ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Like, I bet you
Speaker 1: can't produce the ship that they produced. Talking about making
Speaker 1: just you know, just making it cool or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: he said some other things I can't really remember, but
Speaker 1: I just remember that overall he had a uh, he
Speaker 1: had a good angle on it. But when he said
Speaker 1: that piece about hip hop or you know, artists just
Speaker 1: being cool, It's like, Yeah, he lost me with that that.
Speaker 1: You know, it takes uh to do it right, to
Speaker 1: do it right right, and especially to do it a
Speaker 1: long time. It takes kell of talent and and uh
Speaker 1: not the uh like Devin, you you are very fucking
Speaker 1: ain'tle with your ship, you know, with your with your
Speaker 1: with your music, bro, because I have seen you said
Speaker 1: at the board and mixed vocals and I'm sitting there like, bro,
Speaker 1: dare this ship is right and I gotta get this
Speaker 1: up to him. It's a song called Sticky Green on
Speaker 1: Davi's first that um we did together, and I actually
Speaker 1: make that motherfucker a boy myself. Were you a part time?
Speaker 1: I believe not for the whole mix with in and out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I got one off man without Devin coming in vocals.
Speaker 1: I was like, god, I used to get Mike being here.
Speaker 1: I know you did should I used to give Mike
Speaker 1: Dean hell man. Shout out to Mike Dean. Mike Dean
Speaker 1: was a bad mom. He is a bad motherfucker on
Speaker 1: calling the Rick Rubin the Rappelite. How do you how
Speaker 1: do you feel about Brad still in the name face Mob?
Speaker 1: I mean that was your group, right, face right? No,
Speaker 1: what the fun Willie? That's faces group. Let's face his
Speaker 1: mob and the funk Willie? Oh god, well Face had
Speaker 1: a man. He was gonna man. He was doing a
Speaker 1: big he had a lot of artists were about to
Speaker 1: get ready to come out with different solo u and
Speaker 1: he was telling me, man, you know while everybody's chilling
Speaker 1: and uh solo mode. Man, we got so much talent together. Man,
Speaker 1: I want to put this group together until you know,
Speaker 1: we started doing the solo projects. I want you to
Speaker 1: come to help me out. You know, it's called a
Speaker 1: face mob and if you just come to do a
Speaker 1: few hooks, you need to be cool. And everybody was
Speaker 1: so dope, bad man, everybody I mean that was not
Speaker 1: a weak link. Yeah, man, it was the other side
Speaker 1: of the Hey. Yeah, at any time we do it
Speaker 1: on the other sadle on the he was cold, okay, man, man,
Speaker 1: and then you can you still break down? You know,
Speaker 1: I got one more wind mill in me one mode.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's you know, you know
Speaker 1: you got one more. That's why I got one. You
Speaker 1: don't use that wise hunt up video, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if the right song, come on, there's
Speaker 1: one song, if you play it, I have to try
Speaker 1: to do something anyway. So I can't. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: take a song. I'm gonna find that my you know
Speaker 1: what I'm if you work with a lot of artists
Speaker 1: about the years. You know you're starting off with Brad
Speaker 1: you know you work with um Slam you I'm trying
Speaker 1: to blank them. Snoop Yeah, snoop. Can do you work
Speaker 1: with Bond Bright, work with Dred three Stacks? Yeah? Hell yeah? Man?
Speaker 1: Else quite a few people, Man, it's because it's been
Speaker 1: a blessing, man, just for people to reach out. Man,
Speaker 1: for real. It's just overwhelmeding just to to be asked, uh,
Speaker 1: to be a part of somebody's project life. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just to and uh. I love working
Speaker 1: with people who want me to be a part of
Speaker 1: what they're doing. You know what I'm saying locally, you know,
Speaker 1: from from from here to up there. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just a blessing to be reached out upon. You know.
Speaker 1: I never thought that I could make a living. Uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, provide for my family by notice, back in
Speaker 1: the day, I st just a hobby of I'd really
Speaker 1: like to do it. I just want to give a
Speaker 1: record contract and the semi hous of Ville. That's all
Speaker 1: I want. Oh, what a job is? Speaking of your family, man,
Speaker 1: how did your family take that once you when they
Speaker 1: found out, man Devin is doing his thing, like he's
Speaker 1: messing with this rap thing he's on, Like, how did
Speaker 1: they respond to that? With my mom, she was always
Speaker 1: she didn't care what I do long as I stayed
Speaker 1: out of trouble and I was able to provide. She
Speaker 1: she she I told I wanted to pursue a rap
Speaker 1: career once I got to high school and I wanted
Speaker 1: to I want to go to the Art Institute of Houston.
Speaker 1: So she helped me to go to the Art Institute
Speaker 1: of Houston to try to pursue that. How many years
Speaker 1: did do that? Actually I did year so but I
Speaker 1: know I was too much from completing, uh the whole
Speaker 1: of something. And I was I was gonna be able
Speaker 1: to get a degree. You get a degree the first
Speaker 1: year they was having got degrees for that, uh for
Speaker 1: music business, yeah, broadcast, music video, music video business for broadcast.
Speaker 1: All that too much left and we gotta I got
Speaker 1: a record deal with Raphilized and me and jug was
Speaker 1: that jug dext you know, so he was. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: we got to deal. That's where we came to school
Speaker 1: for huh man, the school and I regret I still
Speaker 1: did at to this day. I still want to go
Speaker 1: get my two months so I get my degree so
Speaker 1: I can at least teach or talk or go to
Speaker 1: some school programs. And that's you know, professor, Professor Devon
Speaker 1: to do packed out. Oh yeah, they'll be come to
Speaker 1: they'll come to class high to know, you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say nothing about us coming from that, not at up
Speaker 1: especially you can get the work done. Man. Man, I
Speaker 1: believe some about the students would come high, you bet ye.
Speaker 1: The students would come out and I'm saying, hey man,
Speaker 1: it's your body. Man. Whatever you want to do to
Speaker 1: your body's your body. As long as you can get
Speaker 1: the work done you had, because you can't just be
Speaker 1: having anybody feeling that right oh yeah, and started looking
Speaker 1: at you like what kind of teacher are you? And
Speaker 1: I never wanted weed to be the forefront of my
Speaker 1: career with it because that made a movie about it. No, No,
Speaker 1: I was asked to my career make a movie in
Speaker 1: a movie. Yeah, I mean you know that that was
Speaker 1: you and a little little Yeah, do a part too,
Speaker 1: that would be nice. I would love to do it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, cope. Daniels direct and producer that much. Eddie Griffin,
Speaker 1: he executive produced that. To Eddie Griffin, he was, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was in the movie too, the white
Speaker 1: guy in the bar. What yeah, Eddie Griffin, Yeah he was.
Speaker 1: He was made over as the white guy. He was
Speaker 1: makeup on everything. Do you do you every want to
Speaker 1: do anymore? Active? I would? I wouldn't not, I would.
Speaker 1: I would love to actually, but you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I would would be pursued it. Actually. I wanted to
Speaker 1: do it in a different ride. I wanted to do right.
Speaker 1: I want to do more writing. I wanted to test
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be funny. I want to write a mother
Speaker 1: just write skit so whatever. You know, we have kind
Speaker 1: of crazy idea stuff. So but boy, I know you
Speaker 1: and UM and Jug and Rob Boy. If y'all had
Speaker 1: go pros in the studio, boy, I know that ship
Speaker 1: is funny as fuck, like like we can't. We couldn't
Speaker 1: get work done because we'd be laughing at some motherfucking
Speaker 1: hard man. Devin is is funny as fun man. Can
Speaker 1: I smoke with y'all? No, the podcast will be right
Speaker 1: back after the poet. Then the first time you went overseas?
Speaker 1: What what country did you visit to play? I don't
Speaker 1: know the Seas with mm hmmm. I might have to
Speaker 1: call up Matchinsils because Matinsil is my international manager. I
Speaker 1: believe so feeling, you know what, because I know I
Speaker 1: played Finland and just played maybe a month before that.
Speaker 1: It was feeling. I remember doing a lot of uh
Speaker 1: I've did some recording and stuff over there's a studio record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: feeling yeah. But since then, you know, it's been a
Speaker 1: quite a few uh places I visit over that man,
Speaker 1: it was cracked out each time. Man, it was man.
Speaker 1: It was a blessing. Man. And I then not realize
Speaker 1: that they listened to me or to hip hop in
Speaker 1: general that much. And they are really into it. They
Speaker 1: are really into the history the places before all this
Speaker 1: uh social media, social media and Wikipedia and all this
Speaker 1: right here. They would really know about hip hop, graffiti,
Speaker 1: DJ and the history of these people and where they
Speaker 1: came from and how they grew up and stuff. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, how did you know all this? Man?
Speaker 1: They asked me about ka Reno Man. Man asked me
Speaker 1: about Man that's the Godfather. Yeah, Man, you know about Lukiki.
Speaker 1: They know it tripped me out, But look Kiki packed
Speaker 1: out a spot in Japan and some ship, right man, Man,
Speaker 1: Man Me too, Me too, man. Man. When I went
Speaker 1: out there, dude Duke, I spoke with the editor of
Speaker 1: the magazine. He was interviewing me, and he said, Willie
Speaker 1: d you know you're in concert the same night as
Speaker 1: fifty cent, And I said, yeah, I heard. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have nothing to worthy about. They're coming to
Speaker 1: see fifty because he's hot. They're coming to see you
Speaker 1: because you. I let you tell me that ship and
Speaker 1: I thought it was just gassing me up and I
Speaker 1: showed up in the airport. It was on so Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: She was like three d people in the airport with
Speaker 1: signs and ship. What were feeling? And I saw the
Speaker 1: promoter Yarrow yea, And I said, man, you didn't have
Speaker 1: to do all this. He said, the motherfucker's did it on.
Speaker 1: I don't know the motherfucker's what he said, don't know
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's They heard you what comment? I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: And they were outside, like in the snow. It was
Speaker 1: fifteen below. They were in the snow. I didn't go
Speaker 1: on to four am, but they were in the snow
Speaker 1: at noon. They were in snow at noon, standing in line.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the hell because we we we
Speaker 1: were pad we we went to a subway and it
Speaker 1: was the subway was like a block away, uh from
Speaker 1: the hotel and the venue. The Virgin Company was right
Speaker 1: in the middle. And so we walked back. We got
Speaker 1: dropped off and we walked back. And as we're walking back,
Speaker 1: I look over to my left and I see all
Speaker 1: of these people standing in line, you know, a few
Speaker 1: hundred people standing in line, And uh, I said, what's
Speaker 1: going on over there? I mean I'm man, I'm totally
Speaker 1: just just oblivious. Was, you know, to my juice in Finland.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what's going on over there?
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, the motherfucker's are down for you. They
Speaker 1: think they're gonna miss something. And I showed up, dude.
Speaker 1: So the Virgin Company. I don't know if it's still
Speaker 1: that at that building, but it's it reminds uh, it's
Speaker 1: it reminds you of like the House of Blues, two stories, whole,
Speaker 1: two thousand people, balcony and all these types. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I show up, bro, and they're rumbling. I come out.
Speaker 1: You know, typically when I do my show, I'll come
Speaker 1: out and maybe for like a minute, I have a
Speaker 1: one minute intro, and then I go out there, man,
Speaker 1: and the people started tripping so hard. I circled around,
Speaker 1: said keep that ship going. And I came back and
Speaker 1: I was like, really touch And then I come back,
Speaker 1: I said watch this. I go to my boy, I said,
Speaker 1: watch this, go back to the front and touch another chicken.
Speaker 1: She just it was something to see, man. But they
Speaker 1: are the point is that they really do appreciate real
Speaker 1: hip hop. They really do appreciate it, man. They they
Speaker 1: show a lot of love. Uh, and you you don't
Speaker 1: have to have a hot album out today if you
Speaker 1: give them a hot album from back into day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're good. Yeah, that's just that's the part of it.
Speaker 1: It's the part about you're doing. Yeah. You know, we
Speaker 1: used to do that ship. We used to be on
Speaker 1: We used to be on stage. You used to be
Speaker 1: on stage and you know when you go up to
Speaker 1: the front, you know, and you know they do do
Speaker 1: little Michael Jacks's name, you touch one of them chicks
Speaker 1: and they start fighting and ship falling out. We used
Speaker 1: to do that, like watch this. I mean Brad didn't
Speaker 1: do he couldn't. We couldn't get the women. He couldn't
Speaker 1: get the women to do that type of ship. But
Speaker 1: you know used to love so you know how that
Speaker 1: love man? Yeah, that was build. That was touching all
Speaker 1: the women making them pass out. Really was back there
Speaker 1: looking at me like what the is? Yeah? Okay, man, man,
Speaker 1: this is wonderful right here. Glad to see y'all doing this.
Speaker 1: Man for real, this is when we do. You'll make
Speaker 1: a major moves, man, and you gotta look good on
Speaker 1: on on TV. Man. I like that intro from intro.
Speaker 1: Man just your your career, man, I have followed it,
Speaker 1: I have watched you grow, and I can honestly say, man,
Speaker 1: I am very very proud of what you do and
Speaker 1: what you've done in your accomplishments to date, you know,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to to watching you grow even more. Bronk. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you you fucking did that. But appreciate you. Man, You're
Speaker 1: the ones who kind of gave me, you know, catapulted me. Man,
Speaker 1: gave me the start. You don't want to gave me
Speaker 1: my name. My name is just Devin name. He put
Speaker 1: the dude on that. I mean, okay, it was just
Speaker 1: Devon and we was working on the album. I needed
Speaker 1: two or three songs left. He said, Man, what do
Speaker 1: you just listen to when your little like man Quzzy Jones, Dude,
Speaker 1: that's my favorite album. You gotta we Gotta, which I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's in the bat room. We went
Speaker 1: to the bat room to get the final from Domo,
Speaker 1: came back and he played it. We just start breaking
Speaker 1: everything he wanted to start it producing and getting all
Speaker 1: together and boom. I came back like thirty minutes the
Speaker 1: beat was already Yeah. I was like, who rendition of
Speaker 1: the dude, you know, smoking on the sweet while they
Speaker 1: getting it's nothing. Has so much fun working on that record. Man.
Speaker 1: As soon as soon as I finished the record, he
Speaker 1: was like, he said, that's it. That's your name, that's
Speaker 1: the name of the album. I was like, I like,
Speaker 1: that's Quizzy Jones. No you to do that. He kept up, Man,
Speaker 1: you do man, But we shot a commercial dog commercial. Bro,
Speaker 1: do you have that commercial David for that album? The
Speaker 1: commercial we shot man where I pulled up in the
Speaker 1: van to pick you up, but the show it we didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, damn no, I don't know who got that.
Speaker 1: That motherfucking commercial is the that will be something good
Speaker 1: to see you. So I directed Devon's uh you know
Speaker 1: how to shoot commercials for people albums and ship? So
Speaker 1: I directed one of Devon's uh commercials. Man, that's where
Speaker 1: I pull up in a big gass white fifteen passengers
Speaker 1: band pick him up with a concert made you see
Speaker 1: I'm knocking on the bathroom though, Yeah, I wonder who
Speaker 1: got that. That's still around? That would be some That
Speaker 1: ship is great and then then walking out of the bathroom,
Speaker 1: walking out of the house with the toilet paper on
Speaker 1: his shoe to know where all this stuff is what
Speaker 1: are you into other than music? You know and honestly
Speaker 1: your favorite pastime. But but what are you into besides that? Man?
Speaker 1: You know, on a personal level, I like on on
Speaker 1: the hobby type thing. It's for times are like I
Speaker 1: love a remote control stuff. I love our cars, drones.
Speaker 1: I started off with just flying helicopters. You know, at
Speaker 1: a helicopter is way way harder than a drowne to fly,
Speaker 1: and then a drone is a lot easier to fly
Speaker 1: than a quad copter. What the copter is? What it
Speaker 1: was in the beginning, before they started coming out with
Speaker 1: the word drone, it was just a quad copter. We
Speaker 1: had a helicopter to fly, you know, we're just one propeller.
Speaker 1: Then you had a quad copter with for propeller. That
Speaker 1: was it. But every move, every movement of your fingertips
Speaker 1: or whatever, it does something and you cannot let it
Speaker 1: go or we're just they're just crashing the sup. It
Speaker 1: was just your your total you're in total controller. Now
Speaker 1: it's obstacle avoidance and all kinds of stuff. You can
Speaker 1: down and talk and it'll still be flying all that.
Speaker 1: It's so easy. Remember one time I was working, I
Speaker 1: had a drone, Bro, and I put that on the
Speaker 1: fucking way up there, and then that it's cut off.
Speaker 1: It sound like a battery issue with the remote. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it will, but that motherfucker cut off, man.
Speaker 1: And at least I won with them drunk like twelve hunting.
Speaker 1: I watched that thirteen and I all hit the ground
Speaker 1: and shadow like glass. It's devastating that it was all
Speaker 1: in somebody. They make them better today, Yes, I don't know,
Speaker 1: a lot better now I have a lot cheaper, less expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get a fan of force. What they have they
Speaker 1: moved up to, like what the Phantom team, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean dj I, Magi, Magis, are you know something?
Speaker 1: Top dogs? Now? You know they got the Minis and
Speaker 1: they have some smaller versions and all kind of different
Speaker 1: models now out. But yeah, I like the Maverick three.
Speaker 1: Speaking of smaller versions, you got kids. I got seven kids.
Speaker 1: You got seven kids, bro, Damn, that's a lot of kids.
Speaker 1: About the kids in the two thousand's, Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: was the youngest, and uh the youngest is five and old.
Speaker 1: This is like thirty, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like I got two waves, two waves of kids.
Speaker 1: You know, four of the seven are pretty much grown.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing the only thing right now and happy more. No,
Speaker 1: uh well, and we gotta say the same, you know.
Speaker 1: That's it. Man. But no, I got a nice little
Speaker 1: shut off valve that I got shut off valve that over.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no, no, no, no, I got a
Speaker 1: personal one. My brother did brother data he got you know,
Speaker 1: he told man, he got like nine teams, so there's
Speaker 1: time for him. Kid. Yeah. Yeah, we get a lot
Speaker 1: of get a lot of a lot of fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know, I love each and every
Speaker 1: one of them, and I love kids here. Man. I
Speaker 1: just one time I walked in Devon's house, right, I'm
Speaker 1: walking to devin house. Man, I said, it's a cute
Speaker 1: little girl. Man. I looked at it. I say, you're here.
Speaker 1: He said, yes, here. That was done that. I don't
Speaker 1: even know where you came from because it was just
Speaker 1: I was having kids at the time, and that was
Speaker 1: She just popped up, like what do you what did
Speaker 1: she get in? You're here? You're here? My son? I
Speaker 1: got a son at Dante He started producing that eight
Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, Dante is dope, man, He's funny. It's
Speaker 1: fun too. He's hilarious wrapped here probably you know, I
Speaker 1: got you know, he was talking at this day and
Speaker 1: age and that type of rap. You know, it was
Speaker 1: kind of that type rep you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like, man, you might just
Speaker 1: you know, he's real talented. To man, he could. It
Speaker 1: surprised me. But you know, my my nephews in these Texas,
Speaker 1: to man, they they're all kind of talented. They gotta
Speaker 1: made me like, well maybe I should try to do
Speaker 1: something and do something really extra formed because they got
Speaker 1: three nephews and my son. They they're like really really cool.
Speaker 1: They forced me to do something for them because they
Speaker 1: really they got a good project. Project. Yeah, when it's
Speaker 1: time for you to go and you ain't got no more,
Speaker 1: how you want to be remembered? You know what, Well,
Speaker 1: if I could just be remembered, I would be cool.
Speaker 1: Just remembered and then let him take it from there
Speaker 1: and just do history, you know, because you you forget
Speaker 1: about a lot of rappers and stuff and and and
Speaker 1: a lot of greats that that's that's been here, and
Speaker 1: and you don't really go down the rabbit hole of
Speaker 1: what they contributions of what they did until that they
Speaker 1: die whatever, and then some of them are not even remembered,
Speaker 1: and then you gotta if you bring the name up,
Speaker 1: but oh yeah, I remember. So just to be remembered
Speaker 1: in a conversation, man, and just that's that's fine with me.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's the last is the last question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you promise, Okay, then we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, and the people go home and
Speaker 1: you want to smoke weed and the reps all gone.
Speaker 1: Somebody had take that about Dube a track. Do me that, man.
Speaker 1: They're always a pleasure to see you though. Man, the
Speaker 1: pressure is always mine, man, last man I said, I
Speaker 1: stopped hitting that note like three packs of black and
Speaker 1: mouth got oh yeah, looking ahead ladies, man, I appreciate
Speaker 1: the love. So dope man, And stay high, oh we'll do.
Speaker 1: And that just highest spirit man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just high, you know, and just living life and to
Speaker 1: the best of your ability. Just just stay high mast
Speaker 1: above water. That's what that means. I just always always
Speaker 1: talk about how important the come line is when you're wrapping,
Speaker 1: and Devin has some of the most amazing come lines
Speaker 1: in the history of the art. I smoke weed, I
Speaker 1: drink bru It's all a rapper back and sh that's
Speaker 1: all I do. I love it, man, I remember that line.
Speaker 1: Just put me just side all the time. You even
Speaker 1: told me check this out, like mob if I'm hot
Speaker 1: in how about you? You know that I don't just
Speaker 1: want like that. There's more to it. But he was like, say, Mario, Hey,
Speaker 1: what is that motherfucker's song? Dad? I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear it. Uh take brass voice, man, what's the song? Damn?
Speaker 1: I want Lee on that song too. What is the
Speaker 1: name of that song? You? That's on the Comfort Brother album? Okay,
Speaker 1: don't take much shit out man? That song they go.
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