WEBVTT - The Devin The Dude Episode 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.720 Get get no Boys, it's back and rehoaded all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.119 your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets, 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.400 the real the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escapegoating, 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.640 and they ain't know when we speak the truth, so 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.760 they quoted because we wrote it. The North South East 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.880 coat is the g b my keeping your head bobbing. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.680 It ain't no stopping and wants to be drops head by. 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.040 And then the system is so corrupt they throw the 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.320 rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.680 Don't get it twisted on code and we danced for 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:39.159 no furntament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.720 the building. Collectively we are the ghetto Boys. Reloaded, Reloaded 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.479 with another episode of information and instructions to help you 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.400 navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:57.640 Devin the the Dude, What's What's what's up? Cool? And man? 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:04.360 Good to be here, Man, damn. This is one of 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.959 the most unique voices in hip hop ever. One of 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.959 the most talented guys I've ever met in my life. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.560 Kevin the Dude, Oh man, I appreciate it, sir man, 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.640 good looking out man. I had had wonderful mentorship. You 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.560 know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, coming 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.760 up wrap a lot. Yeah, Man, y'all was the epitome, 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.520 you know what I'm saying. And everybody in Houston, in Texas, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.360 in the South actually wanted to be a part of 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.120 the movement. Ya was, y'all was having Man y'all was 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:39.720 like trimp setters, y'all groundbreaking, set the blueprint of independent 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:47.560 rap period. I first heard Devin on um a song 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:53.200 um he said, uh, and when you finished white in 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.960 my dick all turned the channel twenty. It's all as 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:01.800 I don't want to get off. That's what I like saying. Man, Now, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.360 what do you first meet that I don't remember. I 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.440 think we were Digital Services a studio that we record. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.679 We were recording that because I know he remembered what 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:21.040 are you high when when you met? She definitely would remember, uh, 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:27.120 digital services, Yeah, but I don't remember what. Yeah, John Ryan, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.840 Yeah much love Big Chicken, Big Chicken. That wasn't Big 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.320 Chicken when that digital He came later with Mike, No, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.399 he came in. He came to hippie house. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.160 Big Chicken. Cut all these fingers off, man, What do 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.239 you mean? I said, That's what I said. He cut 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.960 the fucking fingers off, bro. And he was a hell 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.680 of a guitarist because cut his fingers out by accident. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.760 You know, you worked with that would cut his fingers off. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:03:00.160 He helped build built the Hippie house. But with him, Yeah, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.839 shout out the big chicken. Let's take it back there, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.959 let's go back to punt at Michigan. You know what, 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.280 I get that a lot, man, because you know, you 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.880 look at my Wikipedia page or whatever. Were you born 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.440 in Punty? Yes, but you were raised in St. Petersburg. Yes. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.040 I am the only uh sibling of mine just was 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.440 born in Punty. Nobody in my family ever was born 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.079 in Pty. Uh. My mom was pregnant with me at 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.840 the time, and we were all from St. Petersburg, Florida. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.040 The car industry was booming, and I think my my 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.840 my dad was trying to get a job and my 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.800 my grandfather was living in Michigan at the time. So 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:41.960 Mama that was pregnant with me moved to uh, moved 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.240 to a Punty act just you know, for the summer, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:45.960 you know, and so he could get a job and 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.000 try to get situated, but they didn't. They didn't like 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.280 it was too cold, and it was she was just 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.240 she was uncomfortable and she just decided as soon as 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.240 I was born, she was gonna go back to Florida. 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.000 So after two months or so, uh, when we'll move 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.960 back to Florida. So is that where the majority of 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.400 your family is? Yeah, that's most of my family in 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:09.560 East Texas, Texas, Canada. Uh yeah, yeah, we kind of 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.480 migrated from there. My grandmother started migrating for Florida back 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.360 in like seventy nine, seven, seventy eight, seventy something like that. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.640 Texas Lefkin, I'm pretty sure I do. Yeah, we'll be 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:28.680 doing a lot of but I'm pretty sure I got 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:35.000 somebody in loving this kind. Yeah, so you left immediately, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.000 your mom left once she had you, and then you're 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.560 in St. Petersburg. How long are you that before you 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.000 make them jump to Houston? And there in the middle 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.400 third grade going to fourth grade? Okay, third grade, going 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.400 to fourth grade. And uh, my my grandmother we called 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.120 her Mama Candy. She moved first. She once she was 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.880 really in the in the church scene, holding this church. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.279 I'm talking to five five times a day, five times 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.120 a week. You know, they go to church. You know, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.080 she was real you know, you know, Christian, and she 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.520 moved because they had lack of things, saying that Florida 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:18.120 was gonna end up being submerged and water and stuff 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.600 was going to be wiped out or back then there 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.039 was there's a lot of Evangelus, a lot of Christian tense, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.400 and a lot of stuff going on back then. So 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:31.880 she she moved with with with her family, all uncles, stuff. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.640 They moved, and she was trying to get my mother 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.280 to come, trying to get so hard to give my 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.279 mother to come to Texas. And they had had some 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.960 land out in Douglas Field, Texas a hundred and nine people. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.360 So they just boom it still it might be two 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:53.560 hundred people now that will be will be here. But 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.360 cas the boe we cause the boom, you know, he 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.080 went from you people. Man, that's you know, you know 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:06.440 they you know cousins and stuff. They you know, they're 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.360 doing the country with their cousins. I was just looking, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.800 Yeah that's crazy. But yeah, man, uh but much love 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.159 to the like the Washingtons and the Drayton's and you 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:27.240 know the families out there in Douglas Ville. Uh. They 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.039 was neighbors and they kind of taught us how to 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.280 kind of live off the land. Man. You know, we 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.200 was from the city where you know when they really 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:35.800 know what was that. We know we had to chop 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.960 wood to get ready for the winter. We know we 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.880 had to plant a lot of seeds and go in 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.159 the garden and take care of it. I thought it 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.400 was just fun at first. My grandmother had me out 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.719 there picking purple hoole peas and with a purple and 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.160 I was just having fun. And then the second week 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.080 or so, it wasn't so fun. It wasn't so fun. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.240 It was like, man, it was like work work, And 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.560 I was like, whoa, it was well water all that, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.200 you know what I'm saying. And it was I had 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:07.839 to go next door and my grandmother made preservatives and 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.160 I had to go next door to take the preservatives 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.760 over there and to trade them off for for eggs. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:19.240 This is Douglasville, Texas. It's right, it's a town. I mean, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.640 what's smaller than the town? I don't know, but that's 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.560 where that is. The biggest time was it was called 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.040 New Boston and we eventually moved moved to the Victor 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.440 but much love to other people in Boston too, man, Boston, Texas. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:38.119 But it was we had, you know, walked a mile 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.280 down the dirt road just to get on the bus 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.560 to travel thirty miles to school every day you went 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.560 to school out there. Yeah, Atlanta Rabbits. Much love to 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.800 Atlanta Rabbits. As my first Texas school ever, you know, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.440 and it was the elementary school. And then uh, eventually 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.600 we moved to New Boston. Uh New Boston Lions, you 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.640 know what I'm saying that. Then uh, after that, my 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.160 mom was like she she just wanted to get away. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.200 She needed somewhere bigger to stay with a lot of 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.360 kids and stuff. She had our kids. So she layed 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.800 at the job in Houston and like eighty two, eight one, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.080 eighty two, you got a job like in Houston, and 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.640 like eighty three, we just started coming, you know. She 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.960 she moved us in, she said for us, and uh, 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.480 you know, start chilling in Houston and back then every 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.200 time we get in trouble, my mom was sending us 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.600 to the country to New Boston. So I was going 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.240 back and forth, back and forth from Houston to New Boston, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.439 Texas until I graduated. Yeah, and when I graduated. I had. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:37.880 I just wanted to get out of there. I just 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.080 wanted to, you know, shout out talking to Rhode Dogson 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.280 New Boston too. Man, what what what made you want 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.920 to start rapping down? Um? And when did you know that? 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.400 You was like, really fucking dope? You know what? What 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.680 when did I start rapping? Maybe start rap? Actually? I 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.000 was breakdancing, you know, even from Florida coming to Texas. 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.480 Were just know we was we were just doing a 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.240 robot and stuff like that. We had groups and my 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:09.480 my older brother Donny, you know, not a chilling cool 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:16.280 and the mother that's why most of my stuff, that's 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:24.480 where I get it from. The d lack what man? 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:29.320 You know what before I left, when she I went, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.360 she sent for me before my mom, my mom and 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.280 the rest of my family came to Texas. So she 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.920 kept sit sending for me. She promised me a shelling pony. Yeah, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.319 and I was like I wanted and I wanted I 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.040 always wanted one. She I never got it, but she 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.440 she bought me up there. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:51.120 She got And then then I realized what it was. Uh, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.200 it wasn't really a chilling point. It was something bigger 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.160 than that, but it was something to ride off with. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.840 It was something significant and it kind of meant the 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.040 same thing because that shed the pony did back then. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.720 It took me a long time to realize what it was, 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.120 but it was. It was. You know, she didn't allow 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.920 me to have circule of music. I couldn't we couldn't play. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.960 I feel like circular circular. I mean like what what 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.600 what are you talking about? Like, what's bigger than the 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.480 Shelling Pony? What are you talking about? Okay? The Shelling 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.080 Pony to me as a kid, was big enough for 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.040 me to get on and ride around and show off 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.719 and I can. It's like a ride to me as 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.200 as a kid. You always think about like a horse, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.520 but it's not a big, intimidating horse. It's a cute 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.400 little pony that you can ride and you know you can. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.679 You can still maneuver and just have fun with it. 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.160 And I always wanted one, you know, back then it 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.719 was like many bikes and stuff and go across something 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.520 you can get on the ride. Shelling Pony was like 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.800 a little ride to me that I wasn't intimidated body 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.280 because when they came from Florida to Texas a big 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.520 horse and it was the bigger, but the selling pony 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.640 was cool. I can get on it and I never 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:11.200 got it, but she she instilled in me a ride 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.920 that I had I can have for life. It wasn't 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:20.000 it wasn't selling pony, it wasn't the horse. It wasn't nothing. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:25.440 That's that you can literally drive or ride. But it's 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.480 a simple in life. Yes, It's like I had to 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.880 go to church every every day. I went like three 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:37.480 or four times a week. I kept falling asleep in church. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.520 She kept hitting me, getting getting me up to the 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.200 point where she talked to her to the to the 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.000 pastor and asked if I could join the choir. And 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.600 I was the only kid in the choir because I 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.840 kept falling asleep and the churn and see was embarrassing 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.880 want that. She just would stand up and saying, you know, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.320 so I was the only kid in there me And uh, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.840 what other kid was that? Maybe? Uh thinker? Yeah? Yeah, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:06.840 yeah he was like he played tampaein too, you know. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.040 I wish your solo. Do you remember you know what 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:14.640 funny you ask? It was something really simple? He was 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.520 so many times I did not have a time you 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:25.800 know what I told nobody, But he gave me a try, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.200 and I did not have to die, you know what 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:35.319 I do, but something like real simple and I'm bless Yes, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.360 I'm blessing, you know, something real simple. But he used 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:43.760 cold back then I wrote the church up. But there 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.040 was a holy dis church when they running around and 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:51.520 fast speaking time. I didn't understand that, you know, fell 0:12:51.800 --> 0:13:01.920 church sleep, but I ain't never you know, but it 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.600 was interesting to watch and it was just really really 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.840 you know, it was just the spirit was there and 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.040 it was just music for the most part. And then 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.360 you know, just when I go to church. Do you 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.280 ever go to church? Hal, No, I didn't. I didn't 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.319 go to the church. Half when I started getting high, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:24.000 stopped going to church. Stop going to church. My getting happens. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.959 The reason I don't know, well, you know, and then 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:30.160 later I'll go to church. Cut your snap, m you 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:34.920 cut your snap. I caught my snap. Cut your snap 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.120 exactly like I'm going to church. What the hell is 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.480 that going to this? No, that ain't there. Den theyve 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.360 got some weed in his pocket and and and a 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:49.079 cooler full of bill in the car right here. I 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.319 remember when I first heard um fat enough for everybody. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.880 I heard the original alright, squad questions, love Baby, Yeah, 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.360 and and and and I thought it was the most 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:08.480 UM original shift I had ever heard. And Um, I 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:13.480 heard Dare's voice. Man, I wanted to put Devin and 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.880 and d MG and a couple more Smitty and a 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:22.280 couple more UM artists were unique voices in this group. Man. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:28.360 And we started making records, Man, and the ship started 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.400 sounding better and better and better and better, and we 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:37.360 ended up naming the group Face Monk. And Um, I 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.440 just saw I just saw something in Devon, you know, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.800 back when I guess nobody's seen that ship because we 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:49.280 actually sat down and did a solo album together. And 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:55.120 then that's when I really had the opportunity there to 0:14:55.240 --> 0:15:00.320 see how dope Devin was. Man, and the first song 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.880 the Dude, you know, remember Wayne played the horn on 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.800 the ship and then they played the bass on the ship. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.320 Got talented family. I got talented in my family. Man. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:16.640 You know, uncle uncle Wayne died and and Man, I 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.720 know he would be super proud to to to know 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:25.640 that you took your career into your own hands and 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.480 and and started making albums and moving forward rather than 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.560 doing like a whole lot of other artists. Excuse me, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.800 that just ended up saying, you know what, man, fun 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.760 this music ship, I'm gonna give me a job. And 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.160 you you you knew what you had and you stood 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.200 on that ship. Man. That was that's that's just so 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.640 dope to me. There. You was pretty much one of 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.800 the biggest influences of that. I never thought to be 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.840 a solo artists. I never wanted to be so large. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.440 Always wanted to be in a group great to assay, basketball, 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.520 football group. I just want to be a good team 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.600 member and everything, you know what I'm saying. And I 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.320 found like a cool group with Oscar rob Quest and 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.240 when who was like solid and when you came on 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.520 and he was like, man, y'all are dope. Man, you 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.280 know what I'm saying. You you're a dope. You really 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.440 kind of like, say, man, you you ever thought about 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.000 doing a solo solo album? You asked me. I like 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.200 and not really, you know, saying I would like the 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.960 group I say, he said, you said, man, man, you'll 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.120 be a dope solr this man just just think just 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.040 think on him. And I pondered on it, but I 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.160 never gave it a thought. I don't know if you 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.120 passed that on the jail or something. But I know 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.680 he asked me one time too at digital in the 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.640 parking lot. I said, damn, you was thinking about going solo. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.200 And before I can answer it, um beatose brother, rest 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.760 in peace. Man, You're like, definit ain't ready? Man, three 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:56.560 two terms? It's three two terms? Uh the beat brother, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:02.400 he's passed well, so man, Tenny saying something like that. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.800 I don't believe that really, yeah, because I think he 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.920 was done with three too, right. I don't I don't 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.240 know how he wouldn't. I don't want to say the wrong. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.399 I don't want to get it. But it was it 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.919 was something by that short price getting dude gangster type. Yeah, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.840 but it's on three two. It's three two up next 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.840 and I was like, you talking about nig We didn't 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.560 even talk to me. Yeah, I'm ready to Jay, Yeah, 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.159 I'm ready. Man. I don't know what the you know, man, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.639 because we just kind of got into it and men, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.000 he was about to, you know, go at it with words, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.399 and I wasn't thinking about the solo until you know 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.920 he's talking, Devin, ain't ready. It's three to surting to go. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.920 You know, you know who's next, I like, no, hell, 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.720 it must have been really hot man, because I've never 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:51.439 seen well. It was some inside stuff, man, Man, I 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.800 love three too. That's my that's my nigger man. But 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.679 it was rest in peace three man. You know, he 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.040 delved for the city man, he really represent but it 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.440 was some internal stuff that you know. He was kind 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.119 of going at me with I shook it off, shook 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.919 it off here, You'll never know, bring it on. He 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:16.920 was talking about me, yeah, you know in his first 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.120 couple of lines, because he was free with just freestyle, 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.120 gonna bring it on. And he came in. He came 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.520 in digital and listened to everybody's verses and then he 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.000 stopped after the art score he heard uh. Then he 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:31.840 he said, let me go in there and he started rapping. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.920 But it was something you know, Damn, I see it. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.399 Now I'm at the window of your cocks and caddy. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.520 You heard I roll a fatty. I was a fast 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.440 squab twist this meet, and they can need a fast 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.680 squab twist. The wonder fun this system made a fusty 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.760 but you know what that And then you came in 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.679 like you heard I roll a fatty. Now I'm at 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.959 the window the cocks like I've no known who got it, nobody. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.040 I don't think that was the case. No, no, no, no, 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.120 no if but Devin, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:01.359 ride with that one man. I hope it's you know, 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.680 I would like to say, I would like to say, 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.560 you're probably right, but no, but it was. It was 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.800 It was just like a competition at the time, a 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:17.840 friendly competition. It wasn't nothing personal, but he really wanted 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:22.440 to He wanted to be up next, you know, either 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.600 with the convicts or whatever. He he really had a 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.360 lot of thrive and wanted to whoever in my way 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.120 up in the fresh. But three two was really really cool. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.600 I mean he freestyled off the top, like really just 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.639 lasting everybody. We had fun. He's coming to rob House 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:41.399 all the time. Him and Big mikey byby hot but 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.840 they left weight. We freestyle, drank smoke. But we was 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.679 really cool. We was all cousins. We was all like 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.920 hip hop cousins, and it was all friendly. But that line, 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.800 it was it was kind of about be you know, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.840 because but I never said this thing, and I thought, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.679 you know, if it wasn't really now impact, I know 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.760 you said something one of your songs. Man, I'm just 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.080 trying to hear. I'm trying to remember all these songs. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.840 But you probably responded no no, no no no no 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.120 no no no. It didn't It didn't deserve a respond 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.080 never ever, ever. And I never got offended. I never 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.080 I'm like, oh, I wish I had a chance to 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.800 go back in the boot. That was the thing I felt. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.800 But yeah, it was it was. It was another man, man, 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.560 What's love? What's the three too? Man? It was really 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:30.120 compos reloged podcast when be right back after the poet? 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:41.919 You got a cult following the devil like and you 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.560 got mixed U When when when we look out into 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:51.960 the crowd of your contructs, you see everybody. I think 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.240 that you have tapped into a market for everybody, you know. 0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.280 I mean, everybody's at your show, bro, and everybody's high. 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.920 I think that's the bridge, you know, not only getting 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:07.720 high but having a good time, having a good time. Man. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.480 I don't really get I don't really get into a 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.760 lot of racial stuff, you know, but you know, to me, 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.920 a color is just a color. You know, a person 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.080 as a person. Uh, there's a lot of you know, 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.840 good and bad, and every race and create or whatever. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:32.600 So I try a lot of people. Everybody's in your crowd. 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.720 It's well diversed. You have a cult following. Bro. Like, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.959 every time I called that, well what what what David Man? 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.679 David I don't do I'm like, fuck, when does he 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.120 have time to record? You're always on tour, fucking dope. 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.879 Damn you got fans all over the world and the music. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.120 I like mingling with him too. Man, after the show, 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.560 just getting right off the stage and going straight out there, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.399 you know, before they clean up a club and kick everybody. 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.160 I like to go round that, you know, go out 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.919 and just you know, show up, just to you know, 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.359 touch them and take pictures and just I mean, if 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:12.880 it wasn't for them, man, it just appreciate it at 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:15.440 this day and age, at my you know, this point 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.439 in my life, at this you know, the age that 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:21.760 I am to be appreciated for the past music. It's just, 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.919 you know, I can't ask for that, nails. You know, 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:29.560 it would be selfish of me to just and you know, 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:31.600 get off the stage and just go and get my 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.199 money and gip to the next show. Now it's you know, 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:37.520 it's a lot more than that. You had the opportunity 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.600 to work with Dr Dre Yes, sir, yes, sir, that 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.199 was a he was that experience. I was wonderful. That 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:48.240 was wonderful. That was about um Actually it was I 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.800 was just at at the crib man. That was a 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:55.760 crib nineties something like that somewhere. But then and a 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:59.240 call from rapping Lot. It was Rico. I'm much love 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.280 Ricos who you know? Uh? He just he said, damn 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.720 um man. Dr Trey about to get ready to call you. Man, 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.080 he WoT you work on me on his is that 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.159 when I was like you you're ship and like you 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.440 ain't you? He said, no, man, I ain't. I'm for real, 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.840 stay by the phone. He's gonna call you. So our 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:23.159 pass two hours pass. I'm like, man, and I know 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.720 he just watching him. I was checking from see it 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.639 was April first or whatever. I like, all right, let 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.800 me see so I totally forgot about it. Three hours 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:36.520 pass whatever, vone rang, I'm not Salni. I just picked 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:44.159 hello Yo, it's Devin. Yeah, and just do what do 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:50.200 fuck you do? Yo? Tray kicking the you know what 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.080 I'm saying that break back the boys, just as I 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.480 did that on this And it was just trigling me 0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:01.080 just like Dr Trey. And I heard you say when 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.480