1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hello, everybody, We've missed you so much. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Ashley is over here, just anxious to start talking Bachelotte again. Yes, 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to finally talk about the top four. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: We got Dean, Brian, Peter, and Eric. And I think 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: I called these four from the very beginning. Did you Well, 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you're a big fan actually, and you've been around for 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: a while, so I'm not surprised. Okay, before we get started, actually, 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to ask you if you had to rank 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: these four guys in order with compatibility for Rachel right now, 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: who would be. I love the fact that you said 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: with compatibility for Rachel, not yourself. Okay, so I'm gonna 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: rank Brian number one. Uh I wanted wanna go with 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: Eric number two? Oh my god? Yeah, because they have 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: so much fun together. And also because Peter at number three, 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: he's like starting to doubt things. He doesn't know if 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: he's ready. He has this guilt over his ex girlfriend. 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. So then d number four. If 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: you if you would have asked, if if I would 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: have guessed, what you would order you to been in 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: I knew you would be number four because in your mind, 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: you're going to continue to tell yourself you have a chance, 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: and four is a great place for a chance. Well, 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying, actually, you have been very 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: interested in Peter and Dean since the very beginning, and 26 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: I think that is for very similar reasons that Rachel 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: is interested in these guys. But we learn a lot 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: about him this week. This is hometowns week. This is 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: a big week for them. Um. We get to see 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more intimate side than we've seen before. 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: We get to meet their families, who they are around, 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: their families, with their families. Like I know, for me 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: during the batchelor, that was a huge week, one that 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: was incredibly telling. I think, um, when it came to 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: my commitment long terms, I have so many questions for 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: you about hometown. Okay, so did any one Was there 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: anyone who you really liked? And then after meeting your 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: after meeting their family, You're like, oh, maybe I got 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: to rethink this one. Yeah, I mean, honestly I do. 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: At that point, I really liked the fore women I had. 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: The four women I had were Lauren obviously, Joe, Joe, 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: Amanda Stanton, and Kayla, now you met Amanda's girls, I did. 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: Was that a lot of pressure? Um? Yeah, I was. 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I was very nervous about it. It It is a lot 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: of pressure. I I thought a lot long and hard 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: about if I should even go to hometowns. But then 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, well, because I knew at that 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: point my feelings for Amanda maybe weren't as strong as 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: my feelings for something hometown. Yes, her hometown specifically, because 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: my feelings weren't quite there yet. But then I wanted 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: to explore it more because Amanda and I kind of 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: had a late start start to our relationship. It was weak, 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, five or six before we really had our 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: first one on one. So I said, well, maybe there 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: is something to Amanda and I that I just don't 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: know yet, and I don't want to give up on it. 57 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: So um, but that was a great hometown. Honestly, for 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: as difficult as it was emotionally to two and as 59 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: as as much pressure as it felt like, I really 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: enjoyed meeting her daughters. I really enjoyed seeing the mom 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: she was. Her daughters love her so much. I got 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: to see that up close personal. So then I went 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: to Kala's hometown, which is an amazing family. Um, and 64 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: I went to JoJo's hometown, and I think JoJo's hometown 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: was maybe the most telling to me, not because of 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: anything awful, but her brothers really didn't at the time 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: seemed to like me. So you're saying that even the 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: parts that we didn't get to see on TV, it's 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: still it still wasn't positive And it wasn't a positive 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: experience with the brothers, No, I don't think it was. 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't say it was a positive experience because I 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: think they were very um protective of Jojo, and as 73 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: a result, because of their protection of Jojo, I felt 74 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: like I was never going to be invited in. I 75 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: was never accepted that they knew the experience that we 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: were partaking in. They knew what the show was about, 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: and they made they shamed you for it, and I 78 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: have a response, And so I couldn't be a part. 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't see myself being a part of a family 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: at that time that hadn't even welcome into their home 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: from the beginning. Um, it was a hard it was, really, 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: it was really difficult. But then I went to Lawrence 83 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: hometown and met her family who obviously, I've you know, 84 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: got lace the greatest. So hometowns were very telling to me. Uh, 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: it's it's a huge week. It is, in my opinion, 86 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the first week that you really fully get to see 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: who these uh people are outside of the show. So 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: when you went to Joe Joe's, did you think about 89 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: that experience throughout the next week when you had to 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: decide who to pick or were you just like, I know, 91 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm picking Lauren and it's not even an issue. I'd 92 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: be lying if I said that I didn't, you know, 93 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: consider my experience at JoJo's hometown. You know, her family 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: really wasn't terrible to me. Her parents were awesome. Her 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: parents were amazing, um, and and her her sister was amazing. 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: It was the brothers that just didn't accept me, and 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: which is fine. You know, they're protective their sister. I 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: get that. I don't have a sister, so I don't 99 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: know how i'd react. Um, but it did make for 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: a very contentious environment for me and and as a result, 101 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't look back on that hometown and say, hey, 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: this is the family I could see myself being a 103 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: part of it. This one the mom was swigging the 104 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: wine out of it. Yeah, that was a great yeah. 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: I mean it was a very stressed, weepening for us all. 106 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: But the point of all this is is that hometowns 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: are very impactful in the relationship moving forward. And you 108 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: have what when you watch the show, Um, I don't 109 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: know how many weeks there are, but I know there 110 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: is at least three weeks left in filming, and so 111 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you get a lot of time with the final four 112 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: or three women after hometowns, a lot of a lot 113 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: of time to build a relationship. You have a lot 114 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: of time after hometowns. You do have a couple of 115 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: weeks there to just really spend time with the three women. 116 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: So were we worried about Dean because he's so worried 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: about his his family not being the perfect family like 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the other guys may have. I mean, you know, here's 119 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: here's my perspective on that. And actually, before I give mine, 120 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: I want to ask you yours if if you were 121 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: the bachelor at Okay and you were walking to hometowns 122 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and there was a family that wasn't perfect okay. Not 123 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: not that they were mean to you, not that they 124 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: were angry with you, but they just weren't perfect, They 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: had um their own story that maybe include brokenness like 126 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: deans um and tragedy. How would you react? Would you 127 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: be supportive of him? Of course I'd be supporportive of him. Um, 128 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: I think that it would take me a while to 129 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: get used to because I grew up in such a 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: close knit, happy, healthy family dynamic that I can't really 131 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: imagine anything else. But I would of course be sensitive 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: to it. And who knows, you know, who knows what 133 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: kind of family my husband's gonna be at. I'm sure 134 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: it won't be as quote perfect as the family I 135 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: grew up with. Yeah, I mean you. And the thing is, 136 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: when you fall in love, you're falling in love with 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: the person's um best qualities, worst qualities, and their families. 138 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: You're there to support them through any tragedies or issues 139 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: they have in their family. And so in my eyes, 140 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: like if you're falling in love with somebody, that just 141 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: comes along with it. We all have, we all have 142 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: our stuff and you just gotta you gotta embrace that stuff. 143 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: And um, and if somebody was coming to me during 144 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: my during my season, said, hey, my family is not perfect. 145 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: We've had We've had our own issues, um, and there's 146 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: every other family here is perfect. You know, they have 147 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: their all their stuff going on. I would, hopefully I 148 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: really cared about him to say, Okay, that's fine, I mean, 149 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: thank you, and let's wrap this up and let's live 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: this together. But you're so you're so right that you 151 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: know your family background does make up the person that 152 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: you are today. And she obviously is so into Dean 153 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: and he's such a sweetheart. And I'm sure that a 154 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: lot of that those mush ball qualities that come along 155 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: with him have to do with the way that he 156 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: grew up. Well, I mean yeah, I mean you've we've 157 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: seen it since early on. Dean has a maturity to 158 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: him that is way beyond his years because of the 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: story that he has from his life. You know, he 160 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: has tragedy, he has uh you know, maybe not the 161 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: best family dynamic at this point, and because of that, 162 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: he is a better man today. Could we say, right, 163 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: I would never think that was a twenty five year 164 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: old I've been watching. I think moving forward, Dean worry 165 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: uh will impact Rachel more than maybe anybody else's. Could 166 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: you agree with that? As in like watching her experience 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: in his hometown will be more influential. I would say possibly, yeah, 168 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't really know. Wait, do 169 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I think it's going to affect her opinion on him? No, 170 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's not I don't mean opinion. I mean, 171 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: do you think living in that experience like his hometown. 172 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I think it'll just demonstrate the strength that he has 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: and the maturity that he has for his age. I 174 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: agree with you completely think it'll probably add to her 175 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: admiration of him. I agree it will, And honestly that 176 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: now that's the storyline I am excited to watch during 177 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: this season the Bachelorette. But you know what else it's 178 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: really exciting to have during the Bachelorette. 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Okay, Rachel is um about thirty, right, 211 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: she's one um and we have this guy Peter, who 212 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: was the closest to her age and with the final 213 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: four guys left, yeahs um. But Peter right now is 214 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: seemed to have the hardest time breaking down his walls, 215 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: which happens every season. So why is it that it 216 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: takes so long or it's so hard for guys or 217 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: girls I guess during the Bachelor or Bachelor to to 218 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: break down their walls so they can beat fully themselves 219 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: or what does that even mean? Well? I actually had 220 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: a cover station about a week ago about this very topic, 221 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: and I was told that guys don't really feel comfortable 222 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: with their selves emotionally until they're encroaching forty. This is 223 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: only the opinion of one man. What do you think 224 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: about that? Well, now I'm questioning myself. I think you're 225 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: pretty in touch with your emotions. I mean, yeah, I 226 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: cry a lot, but no, I mean I don't know 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: if that could be true. I don't think that's true. 228 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: I think we have phases and seasons in life that 229 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: we are constantly changing and progressing and trying to become 230 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: better whatever. But I don't know, forty is the cut off? 231 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: That seems to me like it just sounds like an 232 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: excuse from somebody that's below forty to say, yeah, I'm 233 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: not I'm not really finding myself yet, but that's okay, 234 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: because I really only have to find myself at forty. Okay. Yeah, 235 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: they're saying that I have a couple more years in 236 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: order to be emotionally mature. And what was the into 237 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: what was that word that that Taylor would always use, 238 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: She was emotionally intelligent? So do you think that guys 239 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: are more or less emotionally intelligent? And if that has 240 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: anything to do with the age that you should be dating, 241 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, I think it's a 242 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: one off basis. So we have people in history, men 243 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: and women who have had large impacts and who in 244 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: our society way below forty. I don't think there's an 245 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: age cud of I think it's who you're trying to 246 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: be when you're trying to be them, and who you 247 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: are as a person. And I think everybody's different in that. 248 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: For Peter, Peter seems to be stuck up on this 249 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: thing where he's emotionally unable to move, to break himself 250 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: down to the point of saying, Rachel, I'm confident, confident 251 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: enough at this moment to tell you who I am. 252 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: He seems to have something he's hiding. Well, it's apparently 253 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: this ex girlfriend who he continues to feel guilt about. 254 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: We don't really know much more beyond that, but I 255 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: think that probably in this situation, it's probably Peter saying like, 256 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: I may not be as into you, and I may 257 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: be a little bit afraid to vocalize that. It's interesting 258 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: because you have guys like Dean. I mean, Dean's what 259 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: twenty five years old? Twenty six years old, and he 260 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: seems to be incredibly ready to pursue relationship with Rachel's. 261 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: But then you have the all the opposite with a 262 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: guy named Brian. Brian's what thirty seven, so he's close 263 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: to your forty year old cut off. So that brings 264 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: up the question is it okay for Rachel to date 265 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: a younger man? And and and again is it okay 266 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: for being a younger man to date an older woman. 267 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: I think we're generalizing a whole bunch of stuff that 268 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: probably cannot be generalized because it's probably on an individual basis. 269 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: People are either emotionally mature and ready for a relationship, 270 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: or when they're young, or they're old and they're not ready. 271 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. We were just talking about this beforehand. 272 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: We both feel like we were kind of like born 273 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: ready for a relationship. Maybe maybe that's not the actual case, 274 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: but you and I've always craved that. But maybe some 275 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: people are in touch with themselves enough to crave that. 276 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: People say it's a double standard that they're judging Dean 277 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: for being young because Rachel's the older woman as opposed 278 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: to Brian, who is the fact same number of years 279 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: older as Dean is younger. But people are very comfortable 280 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: with older man younger woman. Girls are always taught that 281 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: guys are less mature than them, so that's why we 282 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: are expected to date up. That's interesting. Let's let's see 283 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: what Emily thinks in Colorado. Emily in Colorado, would you 284 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: date a younger guy? You know? I honestly wouldn't I 285 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: have for and um, it just did not end well. 286 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for someone who kind of has their 287 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: life together and who has goals and is working towards them, 288 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: and sometimes I just feel like younger guys aren't into that. 289 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: What was the age difference? It was two years. Two years. 290 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: I would think that you wouldn't detect anything With two years, 291 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, continue. It was kind of hard 292 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: because I was about to I mean, granted, I was 293 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: going to college, so it was it was that kind 294 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: of age difference where he was going to still be 295 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: in high school and that's the only experience I have 296 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: with younger guys. But he was he didn't want me 297 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: to go to college. You wanted me to stick around 298 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: in my hometown, and I was like, not about that. 299 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: It all depends on where you are in life. I 300 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: think that's a big monumental life change, like high school 301 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: in college. And then for me, if I wanted to 302 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: date down now and some guy in his mid twenties, 303 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: he may not be ready to settle down now, But me, 304 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: as a girl in my upper twenties, I'm like, I'm 305 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: not going to date anyone unless they have marriage potential 306 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: in them. Exactly. Yes, I feel exactly the same way. Well, 307 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: thank you for calling in here. We have Holly and Oakland. Holly, 308 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about this situation. Do can you 309 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: date a younger man? Do men mature more slowly than women? 310 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: From your perspective? What's that? What's like? Well, I'm twenty two, 311 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: so at age two, I would not date someone younger 312 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: than me because then you'd be robbing the cradle, that 313 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: would be It just be too weird. And it's hard 314 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: enough to date a guy in my own age. But 315 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: as I feel like, a twenty two year old guy 316 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, a seventeen year old girl mentally, 317 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: how did you feel? I mean, I don't know, but 318 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: that's an interesting perspective that she just brought up. Can 319 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you repeat what you just said? Um, twenty two year 320 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: old guy is maturity wise like a seventeen year old girl. 321 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: That's what we're taught. We are taught that they're normally 322 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: four years behind us maturity wise. Where are we basing 323 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: these facts on? Just getting crushed right now? I have 324 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: no response, I know, I'm so confused. I thought this 325 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: was just a common thing that mother has always taught 326 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: their daughters. Really okay, well, I mean so it moves 327 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: us in kind of away from the even the idea 328 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: can an older woman date a young guy to our 329 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: guys mature enough to handle an older woman, especially levels 330 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: out Eventually, Yeah, eventually they all catch up. So that's 331 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: why at my age now, I wouldn't get younger, but 332 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, give me a few years and I probably would. 333 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: Exactly if you're in your thirties and you're you're you're 334 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old woman, You're married to a 335 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: thirty four year old there's no difference there, right, Well, hey, 336 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: thank you for calling in. You're it's such an interesting 337 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: topic to talk about, and I'm not done talking about 338 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: it yet, and neither is Ashley. So we have Meghan 339 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: in New York. Megan, would you date a younger man? No? 340 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: Why not? We need somebody to say yes. Oh, it's 341 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: just because I don't want to feel like an old woman, 342 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: like a cougar. I agree with you. Do You know 343 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: what when I used to be obsessed with the Jonas brothers, 344 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: Joe and I are only a year and a half apart, 345 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: and even having a crush on a guy a year 346 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: and a half younger than me that I took very seriously, 347 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: you know this crash um. I felt like, oh, could 348 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: he really be a man with me? Let's think I 349 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: don't know you do you feel you feel like? Are 350 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: they going to protect me if a guy comes into 351 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: the house with the gun? This is what I would 352 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: think of. But then all right, thinks what I used 353 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: to think of. Actually, we got a lot to talk 354 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: about off offline. Here. Ben's a year younger than me, 355 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: but I would trust him if a burglar came in 356 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: the house. Actually, yeah, you weren't you older than him? 357 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: By barely? He's a year exactly younger than well. I 358 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: just want to make a comment before we move forward here, 359 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: Harry Styles is only twenty three, and in that case 360 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: there's always exceptions. I would go three and that's only 361 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: six years. That's Rachel. That's Rachel and Dan and maybe 362 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: six months six months. Okay, hey Megan, thank you for 363 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: calling in, of course, thank you. All right, I can 364 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: talk about this for I think we have somebody that's 365 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: going to give a perspective that we haven't heard yet. 366 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: And I want to hear Brooklyn and Kansas City, would 367 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: you date a younger man? Yes, Brooklyn, give her a second? 368 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Come on? Have you have you date a younger man? Well, 369 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: it just depend on their maturity. So how old are you? Oh? Gee, 370 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: I just knew I had to ask this question. Thank you. Okay, well, 371 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: let you know what, let's listen here. Why would you, 372 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: at fourteen years old believe you could date a younger man. Well, 373 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: it wouldn't like more than a couple of years. I mean, 374 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: like it's like a year. There's not a lot of 375 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: guys younger than you, so you know it wouldn't be 376 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: other company. Yeah, you can't do a twelve year old. 377 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: Um no, So honestly though, okay, put yourself in your 378 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: twenty five year old shoes. Yeah, at that point, would 379 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: you see yourself dating a younger, younger man or what's 380 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: your perspective? I guess is a better question of Rachel 381 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: and Dean's relationship on The Bachelor, that's a great question. 382 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: I think that they're really good for each other. There, 383 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: I supported it. I don't think that it's like the age. 384 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like the maturity level. So like, obviously 385 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: you're not going to be thirty one year old if 386 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: they're childish, are you sure your fourteen? Yeah, you sound 387 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: really mature. It's because you've been listening to all my podcasts. 388 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: That is a big part of it. I learned a 389 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: lot of stuff from you. I was gonna say, have 390 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: you brace yourself for the awful twenties in dating? Oh, Ashley, Ben, 391 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: we're both struggling. No, well, thank you so much real quick. 392 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: Aren't that bad? Like you're gonna have a great twenties 393 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: I can predict. I've loved my twenties so much fun. 394 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Just never had a boyfriend, Brooklyn. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, 395 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: thank you. All right, before we move forward here, we 396 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: got to talk about one of our sponsors today. Ashley. 397 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: I know that you're a huge fan and you've been 398 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: a part of this program for a while. It's our 399 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: sponsor fab fun Um. They've been very supportive this podcast 400 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, so it's yes. So Fabbit Fund is 401 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: a subscription box. You get it seasonally. 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You know, 427 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: I think you said it would be hard to be 428 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: a friends with your act. I would say, yes, it 429 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: would be hard to be friends with your ax A 430 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: lot of our listeners say, yeah, it's difficult, but it's 431 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: healthy if you can get to the point of at 432 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: least calling that person a friend. Um, So I want 433 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: to ask you because this has kind of been some 434 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: of the emails we get in in the Bachelor world, right, 435 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: everybody so connected. Everybody's what makes the Bachelor world different 436 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: than the real world when it comes to friendships outside 437 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: of the show. So, yeah, I'm glad that you brought 438 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: this up, because I do want to clare by, Um, 439 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: I feel like you're kind of forced into being friends 440 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: with your ex after the show, whether you're ready for 441 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: it or not. And I feel like people are very 442 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: curious as to why Jared and I are so such 443 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: close friends. It's because we had so many things we 444 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: had to do together for a while that you can't 445 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: not be if you get along, and you obviously got 446 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: along because he dated that. When you're around the person, 447 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: you're like, wait, even if this isn't romantic, I love 448 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: being in your presence. So yeah, the Bachelor, it's it's 449 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: weird because you're even if you're broken up, you definitely 450 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: can't avoid each other. No, So I guess and that 451 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: with that being said, this email to ask the question 452 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: can you you know, can you really be friends your 453 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: ex is and what makes it different in the bachelor world. 454 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: We would say the bachelor world is different, but it 455 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: also is an example of friendships can't exist with your 456 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: exes or people you dated. It just takes time and 457 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: it has to be done responsibly. So moving on the 458 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: next email, this one, you know, it's kind of fun 459 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: to talk about. It's behind the scene this question right 460 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: the the emails from Samantha Cea. It says, I love 461 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: listening to your podcast every Tuesday during my lunch hour 462 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: or when I'm getting ready in the morning. Anyways, I 463 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: had a question as the bachelor or bachelorette, do you 464 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: know who is having drama in the house? For example, 465 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: she asked me, Ben, you took one of the twins 466 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: and Olivia on a date and it was super dramatic 467 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: because of the beef between them. Who decides who goes 468 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: on the two on one dates and group dates? The 469 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: question is who knows the drama in the house? The 470 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: bachelor bachelorrette really doesn't and that's the crazy part of 471 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the show. You're kind of blocked off from anything happening 472 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: behind closed doors. That you're not on a date with 473 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: or a part over a group date. UM. I personally 474 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: didn't love it when one of the other contestants would 475 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: ask or tell me, hey, you know, these two people 476 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: are fighting in the house. That makes it really difficult 477 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: for me, and you know, this person is just well 478 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: because you never know where that intention is coming from. UM, 479 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: so you don't know you're you're doing your best. But 480 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: I think as a viewer, it's really interesting now to 481 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: watch it because you see these these women or these 482 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: men that are just causing trouble issues and when we're 483 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: at home, like why don't you send her home? Send 484 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: him home? Now? Like why are they still here with 485 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: you know six And from the Bachelor bacherette's perspective, we 486 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: have no idea sometimes until we watch the show back. Yeah, 487 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: that's so crazy for me. The reason that I would 488 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: or that I did tell Chris what was going on 489 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: with Kelsey is because back at home all the girls left, 490 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: there's like six of us. We were all like, oh 491 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: my god, this guy is he can't see this, Like 492 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: he's got to get the woolpole, he's getting his wool 493 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: polled over his eyes or whatever. So at some point 494 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: you want to make sure they're not being tricked. But 495 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: I feel like Chris kind of knew it was up. 496 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: Did you kind of get a get an inkling just 497 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: based on watching the girls vibe together? Yeah, I mean 498 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: that's so the answers. The second question here is who 499 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: decides who goes on the tour own dates. I started 500 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: to get an inkling that these two, like these two 501 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: girls were not getting lolong in the house just based 502 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: on some of the conversations I had their emotions around 503 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: each other. And so ultimately you decide, hey, if this 504 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: is how it is, let's get him both sat down 505 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: in the same room or the same environment, and then 506 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: I can decide for myself what is that relationship like 507 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: between them? And you can decide for yourself. Okay, yeah, yeah, 508 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: you know. You you try to do the best you 509 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: can with what you have because you don't have a 510 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: lot of info. You don't have it's you're kind of 511 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: always in the dark. And so a two on one 512 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: day is a really good way to say, hey, let's 513 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: see what this relationship looks like between them, and then 514 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: who has handled this maybe more maturely responsibly, or for example, 515 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: maybe both of these women aren't for me or both 516 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: these men aren't for the Bachelor at and then they 517 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: both go home, you know, like your case. So final email, 518 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: This is a great question, one that I'm super interested in. 519 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: This is a question for you, Ashley. Okay, so that 520 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Caitlin are says this, if Dean and Peter were announced 521 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: the next Bachelor, would you go back on the show? 522 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: And I have to add this in because that's how 523 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: she closes the email, and we need to give ourselves 524 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: from crities. I'm loving this podcast all caps. I've never 525 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: podcasts before, and now I'm hooked. I've never a podcast 526 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: before either. I just listened to my own, which is weird. Um, 527 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: this is a great question because obviously I've been pretty 528 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: outspoken about thinking that those two are pretty great. But 529 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: the reason there are two reasons I wouldn't go back. One, 530 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a bad look for me personally. It's like, 531 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: at this point, come on, girl, we're done, We're done, 532 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: We're over you. Secondly, Ben, don't you think it doesn't 533 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: look the best to have a girl come on the 534 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: second or third or fourth season? Like, did you you 535 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: tell me honestly what you thought when Becca showed up 536 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: in that Limo. Didn't you feel like, oh, this girl 537 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: maybe just wants to just do it again. I don't. 538 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: I mean Becca and Amber both came back on again. 539 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: I think I was excited for the possibility of I 540 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: I had seen Becca on TV, I'd seen Amber on 541 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: TV that they're both two women that seem like they 542 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: had a great character. If you can't close the door 543 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: to that, right If they had watched me on TV 544 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: and they had access to get back on the show 545 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: and they were interested, that actually was a huge compliment 546 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: to me. I was very thankful for the idea that 547 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: they were going to risk their um, the public, their image, 548 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: the public perception to try to pursue a relationship with me. 549 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: That meant a ton. Okay, Okay, that's totally a different 550 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: way of looking at it, And I would have never 551 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: thought you would have explained it to me that way. 552 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: What if you do that Winter Games thing and you 553 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: all go skiing and then drink hot chocolate and fall 554 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: in love. Oh yeah, I forgot that that's even a 555 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: possibility that one of the two of them could be 556 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: on the Winter Games. You're really pushing for that, aren't you. 557 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm not. I actually think I should stop talking about that. 558 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: Why because like, I don't want to pretend like this 559 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: is something that is likely and it's probably not. Well, 560 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: thinking is a real thing. I I do believe in thinking. 561 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: You know, with all of this, we love your emails, 562 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: We love your comments. Please uh tweet at us at 563 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: hashtag almost famous podcast. But you know, as as we're 564 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: reading today, we also have an email address now be 565 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: in Ashley at my heart media dot com. Again, that's 566 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: been and Ashley at I heeart media dot com. We 567 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: have one final email here. Uh, it's from Monica. Monica 568 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: asked a question and this is our fault. We kind 569 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: of skipped over this. We mentioned it and I think 570 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: we are podcast to um it's a question for that. 571 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: We said we're gonna have Olivia on our next episode 572 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: to talk about a situation in Paradise h called with 573 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: a guy named Derek pet Derek was on JoJo's season 574 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette. Actually, you have the inside scoop into this. 575 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: I've heard a little bit about it. Why didn't Olivia 576 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: come on our podcast? Well, they dated and I think 577 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: she's been pretty open with that, but she just feels 578 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: like it's a private thing between the two of them, 579 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: and she no longer feels comfortable discussing it, especially since 580 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, Derek was announced as part of the original 581 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: cast on Paradise. And if she does feel like talking 582 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: about at some point another I'm sure she will end 583 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: up talking about it on her own podcast. Um, and 584 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 1: maybe she'll even have Derek on. Who knows, maybe during 585 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: the Paradise season she'll have Derek on. Maybe we can 586 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: have the two of them on and they can confront 587 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: each other right here. I would love that. Um. So 588 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: you're saying they dated up until Paradise, No, not up 589 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: until Paradise. Okay, so where's the where's the juiciness? I'm 590 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: not going to give you any juiciness. We got to 591 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: have him on, and we gotta have Derek and Olivia 592 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: discussing this, figuring this out. Let's see how he comes 593 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: across on Paradise. The better he looks, the more I 594 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: would want to take him down personally. If he looks 595 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: like a good guy, and I know he's not, Oh 596 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't know he's actually you know, if 597 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: he is a Reay not. But if I was the 598 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: girl who was um treated poorly, I would get back 599 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: at him. I have a question, Ben, how unattractive is 600 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: it that I like love to play the Taylor Swift role, 601 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: that I love to call out bad guys publicly. It 602 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: just means I gotta stay on your good side. No, 603 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean you're never going to cross that side. It's 604 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: not in your DNA. But is it very unattractive for 605 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: a girl to air her dirty laundry? I don't know 606 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: if it's attractive or not attractive. I think there's a 607 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: level of respect, and I don't think you've crossed that 608 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: line with anybody. If if somebody mistreats somebody, not that 609 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: they should be called out publicly, publicly every time. You 610 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: might want to confront that person individually. If you have 611 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: an issue with any of these guys in your life 612 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: or any of these women in your life. My opinion 613 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: is you know, confront them one on one. If there's 614 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: no positive response. Yeah, if there's not a positive response, 615 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: then what then? Either you you allow it to just 616 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: kind of move forward, and you've done your duty by saying, 617 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: hey I've been hurt, or hey I'm affected, or hey 618 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that decision is right, or because you 619 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: have the platform you call him out on this podcast. 620 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: But do you think that there's a teaching lesson to 621 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: be had here, Like it's like you screwed me over, 622 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: I am going to say, now I'm going to call 623 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: you out and now no, no, it won't work. It 624 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: won't work. And I think it just I think it 625 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: just adds more pain. So I think there is there's 626 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: a responsibility there. We say I should always confront my 627 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: issues with the person one on one and publicly, is very, 628 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: very rarely the right decision, and especially when it comes 629 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: to your personal life, because there are a lot of 630 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: things that people do in our lives that hurt us. 631 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: And if we just call people out of the time, 632 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: it spreads a lot of negativity. But Ashley, you know 633 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: what's not negative? Oh my gosh, can we just tell 634 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: you all out there? 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Whenever I can't find something, It's like, 651 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to Forever because they, you know, 652 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: they have everything, all things Summer will be there and 653 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: you'll be hashtag forever rewarded. Wow. I want to be 654 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: forever rewarded. So with that being said, before we wrap 655 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: up this week's episode, let's take a quick peek. Sorry. So, 656 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: with that being said, before we wrap up this week's episode, 657 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: let's take a quick sneak relationship quick sneaking, let's sneak in. Sorry. So, 658 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: with that being said, before we wrap this week's episode, 659 00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: let's sneak in a quick relationship advice call. Alright, Crystaline, Hey, 660 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: you're in Texas. How can we help you. Okay, So 661 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: I just need a little bit of advice. So I 662 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: was talking to this dude for like good six seven months. Um, 663 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: everything was great. Um. And we went on like a 664 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: little trip together with all of my friends. Um and 665 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: um it was like a great trip. Like it made 666 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: me even closer to him, like I thought. It was 667 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: really feeling somewhere like I could really see myself with 668 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: this guy. Long term story kind of continue, sy um okay. 669 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: So um, after that weekend, he kind of gets a 670 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: little this and I'm like, what's going on? Like we 671 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: had this a good weekend and he was like, yeah, man, 672 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: I you know I love the weekend. I love spending 673 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: so much time with you. It was great. And like 674 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: that next week, you just kept pulling away and I 675 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: was like going, sure, okay, And I don't know what. 676 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: I just feel like we got too close, Like I 677 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: feel like we're married now I'm twenty one. I don't 678 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm married. And I was like okay, 679 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: like okay, I kind of get that. I don't feel 680 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: the same way, but I understand, like where you young, 681 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: we should do her own saying fine, like okay, fine, um, 682 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: and so we agree to like still kind of continue talking, 683 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: but just not as serious. But he just continues to 684 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: pull away and pull away and pull away, and sometimes 685 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: he won't even take me back. He'll leave me on rid. 686 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: So I look on the social media and I find 687 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: out that he's back with his ex girlfriend. Oh well, 688 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: there you go, there's your answer. How old are you? Okay, 689 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: so you're one? Well, I just you know, that's what happened. 690 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: That sucks, and I'm sad for you. But you guys, 691 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: weren't you weren't exclusive, you're just dating. Well, we were 692 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: to an extent before he said, like, okay, I thought 693 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: we were married. We gotta stop it, just like why, 694 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: like what is the purpose of like pulling away and 695 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: not just telling me up front right away? Like I 696 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: totally would have said if you just told me. This 697 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: is something guys do, and I think they think they're 698 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: being nice. I think they think they're being nice by 699 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: coming up with another excuse. But you just be better 700 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: off if you just knew the honest truth right exactly, 701 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Like I can handle it, just tell straight up. I 702 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: totally can understand. But and then that's not even the 703 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: worst part. The worst part is that he's with are still, 704 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: but he still trying to have let's just me and 705 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: wants to come out and like come over and go 706 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: out and do this and that. And I'm like, what 707 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: about your girlfriends? Like are you with her still? Are 708 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: you still worried and trying to date and do things? 709 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: If you're with your girlfriend, Chrystaline, you need to protect 710 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: yourself here. I'm gonna say this, and it's no longer 711 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: appropriate or it doesn't sound like this guy is going 712 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: to treat you fairly, and so having lunch with him 713 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: and continue to have access or allowing him to have 714 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: access in your life is no longer fair to yourself. 715 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: My advice to her, and and my advice coming from 716 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: a man, is you know, I don't know what his 717 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: intention was by not telling you. I know sometimes I 718 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: fail at that is not being as clearing my communication 719 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: with with women maybe I've dated in the past and 720 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 1: saying hey, this is now over. I can no longer 721 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: do this. I don't. I think as I hear your story, 722 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: there's a level of intimacy from having this trip with 723 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: him that maybe he felt like it would damage you 724 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: too much if he was too honest and said hey, 725 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: based on this trip based on you know, the intimacy 726 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: that we experienced together. Now I'm just gonna I'm moving forward. 727 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: And and and maybe he just didn't want to own up 728 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: to that himself. Um and and but now it's time 729 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: for for for you to move on, for him to 730 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: move on. He seems to be moving on just fine. 731 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: I know, Ben, But you have you have you done that? 732 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: Like do you sugarcoat breakups and like use a different 733 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: excuse that's not the real real reason. Um, you know 734 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: I used to, and I think it's a there's a 735 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: lot too. That's level of confidence. If you can communicate 736 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: clearly what you're breaking up with the person for, how 737 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: intimate relationship was you know there that always it has 738 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: to be thought through. Um, but yeah, I have I've 739 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: made that mistake. I have sugarcoated things. I haven't communicated 740 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: as clear as I wanted to. But you learned that 741 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: lesson because you see the pain it causes. You listen 742 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: to people like Crystaline here and you're here, Hey, this 743 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: guy might have had great intentions by sugarcoating it, but 744 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: it hurt her more. And so hopefully if this guy's listening, 745 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: and if you are whoever you are, Texas. Krystland's hurt. 746 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: So own up to it and just tell her, Hey, 747 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: I've moved forward with my ex girlfriend. I'm back with her. 748 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: This no longer is appropriate exactly, Krystline, thank you so 749 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: much for the call. That is a great topic. And again, 750 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: it's a topic we you talk about for hours and 751 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: hours and hours on end. But because we don't have 752 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: that time, and because the almost famous podcast for this 753 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: week has come to a close, what the heck why 754 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to leave. I get talked about it 755 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: forever because I just want to get into the male brain. Well, luckily, Ashley, 756 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: for both of us, we have many more weeks of 757 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: this podcast. For me, so I always leave wanting more. 758 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: And my mom told me to always leave people wanting more. 759 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: And that's what you do to me. Done, Oh, Ashley, 760 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: come on, So before we go, I want to give 761 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: you a quick shot or quick shout out to our sponsors. 762 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: A big thank you to wink w i n c, 763 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: the world's first and only personalized wine club. 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