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Speaker 1: is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with

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Speaker 1: i R Radio. It's a beautiful time of the year.

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Speaker 1: The snow is falling in Denver, Colorado. I think we

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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting talking to Ashley I Connettie, my favorite

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Speaker 1: co host, today about all the craziness that's happened in

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation over last week. And actually, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we've been in the headlines a lot. Yeah, we have,

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Speaker 1: especially over the past couple of days, and the response

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Speaker 1: Sean Booth And if you all haven't listened. Uh, make

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Speaker 1: sure you go to the I Heart Radio app uh

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Speaker 1: everything break up and kind of what life looks like

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Speaker 1: for him now. But actually, I think you did a

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know if you meant to, but

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Speaker 1: you said this, You said, I feel really awkward. Um,

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Speaker 1: anybody about their breakup. But it felt like something that

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Speaker 1: needed to happen for for not only us, I mean

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Speaker 1: Caitlin's obviously moving on as well. I think what made

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Speaker 1: breakup interview without both people present because you're only going

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Speaker 1: Kalin's side. It's a good point, yeah, and the response

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Speaker 1: matter what we're setting ourselves up to get backlash when

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Speaker 1: you do like you said a break up podcast, We're

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Speaker 1: you're only getting one side, but the vulnerability that was

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Speaker 1: shared during that, the details, um, the real emotion that

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Speaker 1: we I mean, we had to stop the podcast I

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Speaker 1: I think really helped the listener understand that nobody is

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Sean, we have a couple of

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Speaker 1: of these Shawn emails for us? I'd be happy to

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Speaker 1: thank you. This one's from an anonymous emailer. I listened

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Speaker 1: to your podcast a lot, but this one was by

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Speaker 1: far the best. Sean's openness and emotion really moved me.

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Speaker 1: I went through a break up a few years ago

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Speaker 1: one that ends things because then you have to live

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Speaker 1: a breakup, hm um. You know you're in the public eye,

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Speaker 1: Karen discussing Kaylin's sexual assault. I think this revelation is

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Speaker 1: Meatia dot com. UM. I want to know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I have a clear answer of how I

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Speaker 1: can help you, and I want I think we all

433
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Speaker 1: here at the Almost Famous podcast want to be that support.

434
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Speaker 1: If we need to talk about it more, if we

435
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Speaker 1: need to have people on to discuss it. We're willing

436
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Speaker 1: to do that, but how can we help? So please

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Speaker 1: write us again at Ben and Ashley I hurt meata

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Speaker 1: dot com. We will read through your emails and uh,

439
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Speaker 1: I think I just want to throw in the fact

440
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Speaker 1: that I cannot believe of this kind of evil exists,

441
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Speaker 1: and that's so so much you will exist. That one

442
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Speaker 1: in six American women go through this, that's mind boggling

443
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Speaker 1: to me. I think the stat that I'm seeing is

444
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Speaker 1: that of assault or rape victims report it. And I

445
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Speaker 1: think that's why talking about it does do something, because

446
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: removing the stigma and the shame makes people feel like

447
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Speaker 1: they should and can report it. Um. You know, I'm

448
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Speaker 1: just reading this. I think if there's anything we can

449
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Speaker 1: do to figure out how to solve the issues with

450
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Speaker 1: performing the rape kids, I guess it says a lot

451
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Speaker 1: of hospitals, you know, are not some people aren't trained

452
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Speaker 1: to perform the rape kit accurately. There's insurance issues, all

453
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Speaker 1: kinds of state and federal laws that are murking unclear

454
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Speaker 1: even to legal experts. Just big complicated issue it is,

455
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Speaker 1: and that's what we need help. I think an open

456
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Speaker 1: dialogue is the only way to to progress to a

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Speaker 1: place of some understanding. So good on Calin or Kalin

458
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Speaker 1: for keep calling or Caalin um Kalin for starting this

459
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Speaker 1: open dialogue, and just to by so we're accurate. Emergency

460
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Speaker 1: rooms should not and are not supposed to turn people

461
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Speaker 1: away regardless of their ability to pay. But that applies

462
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Speaker 1: to licensed hospitals with emergency department. The loophole is it

463
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Speaker 1: does not apply to license freestanding emergency medical care facilities.

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Speaker 1: And it's difficult to interpret you know the meaning of

465
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Speaker 1: all this, um, but there are significant loopholes, and I

466
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Speaker 1: think that's what some of these women may be experiencing.

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Speaker 1: Um Mark. Do you have any emails about this? Well,

468
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Speaker 1: this is a very heavy one and actually there's something

469
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Speaker 1: that you want want to clarify, actually, so it's probably

470
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Speaker 1: worth reading your better Ashley. I really appreciate the honesty

471
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Speaker 1: and vulnerability when Calin said she felt safe with Colton.

472
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: That rang so close to home for me. When someone

473
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Speaker 1: is taking your security from you, a person who truly

474
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: makes you feel safe, loved, and accept it, it's a

475
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: rare thing that you hold on too. I was raped

476
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Speaker 1: when I was fifteen by my boyfriend. It took me

477
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: month to tell anyone because I was so ashamed and

478
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: thought it was my fault. I tortured myself for a

479
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: long time and it was incredibly self destructive. I finally

480
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: told someone after my second suicide attempt. Shame is a

481
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: powerful emotion that can completely consume you. I didn't want

482
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Speaker 1: to point out a comment that actually made. When she

483
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Speaker 1: interjected and said I would have no idea what it

484
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Speaker 1: feels like to be a victim, there was an undertone

485
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Speaker 1: of I'm not the kind of person who would be

486
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Speaker 1: in that situation because I was a virgin for so long.

487
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Speaker 1: This is the kind of comment that kept me from

488
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Speaker 1: telling my story. It's these subtle comments from women who

489
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: otherwise are trying to build up other women that make

490
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: the shame feel all the more overwhelming. Thank you again

491
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: for these candid conversations. Absolutely not what I meant by

492
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: that was I only think I could begin to conceptualize

493
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: the pain that these victims go through, and I didn't

494
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Speaker 1: want to speak on behalf of them. I think the

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Speaker 1: fair mhm, that's fair. UM, I'm so sorry that if

496
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Speaker 1: it that I came across in that tone. I I'm

497
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: so sorry if you thought that there's no easy way

498
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Speaker 1: to move on. I I have zero idea how to

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Speaker 1: move on. So uh ash, let's take a break for

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Speaker 1: a second. Um pause, good glass of water. Come back

501
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: and we'll recap everything that happened in the last episode

502
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,080
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Speaker 1: stick to I start revolting. Yeah, I know same, I'll

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Speaker 1: dry heave. Yeah, got good for me. The water coming up?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever get Do you ever get stuck like

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Speaker 1: right there in the middle of your throat. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start coughing right now. I'm so glad that I feel it.

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Speaker 1: I know, I tell you. Just think about everybody out

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Speaker 1: it when you do that. It's not fun. I don't

561
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Speaker 1: like it at all. Um. Hey, before we dive into

562
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: the episode with Colton, we have a really special guest,

563
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: one of my favorite contestants from this season of The Bachelor,

564
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: who was let home way too early in my opinion,

565
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask her why. Hey, Bree, Hi guys, how's

566
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: it going? Hey? Bree? So good? Um, we've had a

567
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: deep episode. We're trying to get you to lighten it

568
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: up for a little bit. Bree. Do you know that

569
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: Ben thinks that you're like maybe the prettiest girl in

570
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: the Colton season. I mean a lot of people have

571
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: said that I looked very similar to Lauren b So

572
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: it only makes sense the feeling. Breathe, that's really sweet

573
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: the Lauren b Uh. You know what, Lauren is a

574
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: beautiful person, So that is a terrific comparison. You should

575
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: stand tall and proud of that. She's she's one of

576
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Speaker 1: a kind. Three years you were home way too early?

577
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: Why what happened? I know? I know I was sad too,

578
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: and honestly a little shocked. I think that day. Um,

579
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: we didn't see too much of me on this season.

580
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: I think I didn't get as much air time as

581
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: as I hoped. Um, And I don't know if it

582
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: was just you know that I couldn't fully let go

583
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: on camera because I feel like so many people don't

584
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: really speak on that. But for me, that was like

585
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: something really hard. And I was pretty open with Colton,

586
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Like every time I had one on one time with him,

587
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I would let him know like I'm trying, my heart

588
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: is to be open. This is just you know a

589
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: little different for me. So I don't know if it

590
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: was that worth. Um, maybe there just wasn't much of

591
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: a connection. Um, I don't know, but I was. I

592
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: was sad to go, Ben Brie, I have a question.

593
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: So we we live in a world where a bachelor

594
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: world where we're told like I want you to open up.

595
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: I want you to open up. But I think that

596
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: can be such an intimidating statement. How can we make

597
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: that seem a little bit lighter where it's like I

598
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: just want you to talk to me about fund stuff.

599
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Opening up sounds like really it sounds like with that

600
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Speaker 1: girl katelo and thought last week, like I have to

601
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: tell you a SOB story. It doesn't necessarily mean you

602
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: have to tell a SOB story. It means let's just

603
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: have an easy, breezy conversation. And you know, I think

604
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: that's funny because even going on the show, I remember

605
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: like talking with my mom and she was like, well, like,

606
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: what's your big story going to be? Like you haven't

607
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: gone through anything necessarily traumatizing, like you kind of have

608
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: to like capture them. So I felt like a little

609
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: bit of pressure to um, I don't know, like have

610
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: some sort of story going into that. But honestly, like

611
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm actually a very open person and

612
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: honest most of the time, so it's not hard for

613
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Speaker 1: me to open up. I think it's sometimes the opposite, Like,

614
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Speaker 1: especially being on camera, it was hard for me to

615
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: just be like casual and like have like easy conversation

616
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: instead of being like, hey, tell me your biggest fear

617
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: or hey, like what's going on here? Like I'm all

618
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: about like those deeper conversations and it might be kind

619
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Speaker 1: of weird for other people. So I was like, I

620
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: have to like try and tone this back a little.

621
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Speaker 1: It could truly be something as easy as what did

622
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Speaker 1: you study in school? And that opens up a big

623
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Speaker 1: can of worms. Sure, sure, yeah that that could be

624
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: like a whole conversation from there on. But I feel

625
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: like I'm always most interested in and like especially because

626
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: this is such like an escalated um process, like trying

627
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: to get to know someone quickly, like I guess I'd

628
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: rather know earlier on, like some of those deeper things

629
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: to get a better skill for who they are instead

630
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: of but what what school did you go to? Which

631
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: I would ask on a normal date. But this isn't

632
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: a normal way of dating. We didn't get to see it, um,

633
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: And it's hard for always to say. This is one

634
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: of my favorite questions. Ask any contestant who was um

635
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: let home early? As watching The Bachelor Shore, it feels

636
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: like these women are really into Colden. Was that how

637
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: it felt in the house or was people on edge?

638
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Were they questioning him? Were you questioning him? Or what?

639
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Was everybody just sold out that this guy he is

640
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: my husband? Um? I mean, because I left so early,

641
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: I feel like there may have been like a couple

642
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: of girls who were starting to build connections, but it

643
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: was so early on, like a lot of girls were

644
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: just wanting to get to know him still, So it

645
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: wasn't like a huge conversation while I was there. Um,

646
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, everyone just wanted to get more time with

647
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: him mostly, But I think there was definitely a couple

648
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: of girls they noticed from the beginning up that like

649
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: connected with him more. Bree. I know that in this

650
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: episode they kind of wrapped up the feud between Hannah

651
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: and Kayla in a very weird way, and I sort

652
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: of have a theory on that and Ben and I

653
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: haven't discussed yet, but do you know what happened in

654
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: their past that makes them so hostile to each other.

655
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I've been asked about this a lot lately, and honestly,

656
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: in the house, I wasn't really much about the drama,

657
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: Like I really tried to stay away from all about

658
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: so I didn't hear too much. Um I don't know

659
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: like how it's all going to wrap up. And I

660
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: do hope for both their sake, like they were both

661
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: really sweet girls. I hope that it's not something that

662
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: like continues throughout the entire season of both of them

663
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: being there. But um, I mean I really don't I

664
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: don't know all the like the whole backstory really anything

665
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: other than what was shown in last week's episode. I

666
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: guess what you guys that you know? I think it's

667
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: a massive topic and and actually I want to spend

668
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: some time later on digging in Brie. I know that

669
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: you only have a few minutes with us, and and

670
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: before you go, I gotta ask you. I have a

671
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: feeling that if you, unless you don't want it to be,

672
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: this will not be our last time seeing you in

673
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation on a Bachelor show. Where do you hope

674
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: this goes for you? What? What? What do you hope

675
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: is next? Are you? Are you hoping for paradise? Will

676
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: you agree to paradise? Or are you done? This is?

677
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: This was not a good experience. No, No, I think

678
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: this was an amazing experience. And I've only noticed I've

679
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: grown and pushed myself so much more like since the show,

680
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: since the experience and now that it's all airing, and

681
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: I love that, Like anything in life that will push

682
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: me more to you know, find out more about myself

683
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: or whatever that is, I'm totally down for UM. I'm

684
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: hoping this isn't the end because I've had a great time,

685
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: so very open to um, paradise and really anything that

686
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: will come from it. Demi is the quote villain in

687
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: the house. I don't think she's like as villainous as

688
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: a lot of past villains. I think she's more of

689
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: a pest like I talked about last week. Um. But

690
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: but in this episode, Demi and Courtney go at it.

691
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Demi calls Courtney the cancer of the house. How did

692
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: you view Demi and did you actually think that Courtney

693
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: was more of a complainer than it has been showed

694
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: in previous episodes. Um, I think that it is funny

695
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: that Jemmy's coming off with such a villain. I think

696
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: that I think she likes the attention. I think that

697
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: it's fun for her. But um, you know, I wouldn't

698
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: say she's like a complete villain. And I noticed actually

699
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: I think it was the night that I went home,

700
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: but they had a little bit of something brewing. So

701
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what happens on tonight's episodes. Um. So,

702
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure we'll see Brie before we send

703
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: you off here, not to put you on the spot,

704
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: but definitely to put you on the spot. You're gonna

705
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: go on Paradise hopefully. I hope you go on Paradise. Bree,

706
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: I think you've got a lot of potential. Um, I

707
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think. I think colten Sney home

708
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: way too early. So all the guys up to date

709
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: that will potentially be in Paradise from this franchise, who

710
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: do you have your eye on? Well, you know, if

711
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: you're single, Ben, Uh, it would be a difference story.

712
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: But I I've been asked this a couple of times,

713
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: and I kind of have my eye own Dean right now. Um,

714
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: I know that there's I now he said a couple

715
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: of things, but um, I mean I hope that that

716
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't hold him back from Paradise. And I haven't spoken

717
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: to Gean at all, but I think that I would

718
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: be interested in getting to know him. You guys live

719
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: in the same area, so it could be feasible. Yeah,

720
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: let's connect him. Sure, I mean unless you wanted to

721
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: unfold in Paradise. And I really don't think Dean's doing

722
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: the show again, so I don't think that's an option

723
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: for you. But we can totally set you up. How

724
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: about she comes on help I second dating? Oh? Yes, please?

725
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: All right, Bread, you're invited in studio for that, all right?

726
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: February five, breathe nothing like there's honestly nothing like the show, Brie.

727
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: I I thank you for playing long here. There's nothing

728
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: like The Bachelor to just make you super forward, like

729
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: I feel weirdness about like telling somebody now, hey, I

730
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: think you're Q. I have a crush, like I'm into this.

731
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: So brethe good Um, Hey, we're gonna miss you. I'll

732
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: miss you from here on out. So I'm sorry, but

733
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: I hope. I think Paradise is the next step for you.

734
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Brethe Colton season The Bachelor, actually, any questions in it, No,

735
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: that's it. I just wanted to say that. I also

736
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: have never I never told anyone I like you until

737
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: The Bachelor about this whole it's this whole thing. You know.

738
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: It really pushes you to be more open, and I

739
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: admire that about other people. Yeah, and it makes openness

740
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: not seem creepy or desperate or eager. No. Yeah, it's

741
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: just the way of doing it naturally, I think, you know. Yeah,

742
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: but hopefully you guys will be seeing more of me.

743
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful of that. Okay, So to Brie, thanks a lot,

744
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: thanks for having me by. Guys. It should be mentioned

745
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: that we record this on Monday, afternoons because Ben and

746
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: I get a advanced copy of the episodes. Sometimes those

747
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: copies though sometimes those copies. It's so that you guys

748
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: have this podcast to listen to right after the show

749
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: on Monday nights or on Tuesday morning on your drive

750
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: to work. We sometimes in that screener don't get the

751
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Rose ceremony, which is why last week there were some

752
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: references as to brethe staying on the show. We didn't

753
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: know she got limited at the Row ceremony. I had

754
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: zero expectation that you would get Yeah, I didn't either,

755
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: and then we That's also why Breed just then was

756
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: referring to the episode that she had to watch tonight.

757
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: She means episode for that's just how it goes around here.

758
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: We're I'm sad about that one. But anyways, Hey, Bree,

759
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the episode. We hope to be

760
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: seeing a lot more of you before we get into

761
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: breaking down the episode which is up next. And I

762
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: have a lot to say about this episode, and I

763
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: know Ashley does as well. So hold on tight uh

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Speaker 1: I just saw my name pop up on We'll use this.

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Speaker 1: I just saw my name pop up on my Google

807
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Speaker 1: alerts and it says Breeze mentioned an article with Brie

808
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: has mentioned your name, and it's an article with Lauren Ziema.

809
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Um about how Burrie, our last guest, mentioned that, Yeah,

810
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: she was had a crush on on Dina and I.

811
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: So that's really sweet Brie, thank you again for that. Um,

812
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: But I thought it was weird that she's got the

813
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: fun that popped up on my computer. Hey um. Moving on, Actually,

814
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: this episode with Colton Uh was one that I was

815
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: very envious of at times and also really happy that

816
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm not the Bachelor ever again at other times. And

817
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: let me tell you why. First off, Singapore, I love

818
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: the idea of Singapore. I would love to go to Singapore.

819
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm very envious of that. But jumping right into the

820
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: first date, I'm really glad I'm not the Bachelor because

821
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: there is no way in hell you're getting me two

822
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: bungee jump off that thing. I really felt that moment,

823
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: like I could feel them with that anxiety and their soul,

824
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: like I'm actually gonna step off this thing and just

825
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: free fall. Did you do anything like that on your season. No, No,

826
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: they must know that I would have I would have

827
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: been like, I'm out, Like love ain't worth this fund.

828
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: Jared Bungee jumped with Claire on Paradise. Really yeah, but

829
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: it was a lot less of a fall, and it

830
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: was over water, which to me like it was over

831
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: ocean water, which feels a lot safer for me. It's

832
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I I texted Colton last night, um, and I was like, dude,

833
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that you're the Bachelor, Like you're doing

834
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: a great job for so many reasons, but also because

835
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: that right there is something they would have never been

836
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: able to get me to do. Really, it didn't seem

837
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: like he was too eager. I don't think he was either,

838
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: but he held his own so anyways, that was my

839
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: takeaway from the first date. I mean, Tastia is great,

840
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: She's very beautiful. I'm glad that this, uh, this worked

841
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: out for them. But I had anxiety for fifteen minutes

842
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: following this date, just trying to process the fact that

843
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: they were jumping from their legs, you know, hundreds and

844
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of feet, with the idea that this

845
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: was helping them find love. Silly. It's really just that

846
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: they can use all the cliches like I really feel

847
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: like I'm falling in love. That's good point, jumping and

848
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: calling in the process. I'm surprised they could do that.

849
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: I thought that, uh just the network. Television has got

850
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot more strict on what they can and cannot

851
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: do on these shows for like legal purposes. So I'm

852
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: surprised that that can still exist. But it must be safe.

853
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess so probably be as dangerous as

854
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: getting into a car. Yeah, well yeah, probably at Let's

855
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I would imagine. I hope so. Um but uh yeah,

856
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Tasha and Colton they have a connection. I think he's

857
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: into her. As you mentioned last week, Actuley, you can

858
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: really tell who Colton's into and who he's not. If

859
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: there's one thing he's doing, I don't know if it's

860
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: a bad or good thing. It's just you can really

861
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: read who he's into. I agree, Well, I think it's

862
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: fun for the audience. Yeah, he's reguing, you know what,

863
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: items he's really into her. Then let's see what else

864
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: do we have in this episode. The group date, it

865
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: was like the biggest group date ever, and of course

866
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: Hannah was sad because that meant that Calin was going

867
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: to go on the one on one. This is where

868
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the drama between Courtney and Demi happened.

869
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: I have to say that while Demi is annoying and

870
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: presents herself very young, I thought Courtney was really condescending

871
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: in this episode. The scene in the episode and she

872
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: Courtney like, she how do I wear this? There is

873
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: a method to getting time with the Bachelor during group dates,

874
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: and if you want time and you fight for time,

875
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: you get time. The whole playing hard to get thing

876
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: does not work when it comes to the Bachelor. We

877
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: saw this with Chris Radon during Becca's season, who wanted

878
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: to be pursued by Becca. No, the cast has to

879
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: pursue the lead in this case. Correct, there's twenty plus

880
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: people like you don't have to time to play hard

881
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: to get. And honestly, just to be clear, I have

882
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: I bet Colton had no clue that he even had

883
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: not talked to Courtney. Yeah, you're so in it. You're

884
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: tired of talking to people. There's so much going on,

885
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: there's emotions involved, there's deep conversations involved. You're you're just tired.

886
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: In general, You're not. It's very rare. I think at

887
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: the end of the night. Most of the time, you

888
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: know the bachelor, bachelor will sit back and be like, Okay,

889
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: who did I talk tonight? Who did not talk to tonight?

890
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: Was there any weird conversations I have? And that's when

891
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: you start to analyze it, but by then it's too late.

892
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was just kind of turned off by

893
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: Courtney's attitude to the whole. She was very complaining. But Demmi,

894
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: Demmi isn't polarizing, but she's a pest now people like,

895
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: I think she'll I think she'll continue to build this character.

896
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: I think she will be polarizing. But isn't it interesting that,

897
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, she is the villain

898
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: of the season and we don't like talk about her

899
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: that often. But that's truly because lack of a better term,

900
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: We don't. Really she's not. There's not a true villain

901
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: in this season. No, she's just very opinionated. She states

902
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: her mind, she's blunt, and the way she speaks drives

903
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: me nuts. But here's a crazy part. And you always

904
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: get this with the villains or the people that are

905
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: more controversial from the seasons. Batchel I was looking last

906
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: night on Twitter. Uh and Bachelor contestants really like Emmi.

907
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: They respect her for the way that she stands up

908
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: to herself. She they respect her for her just like

909
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: completely open attitude. I don't think it's great for the

910
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: process of finding love, Like I I think she's gonna

911
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: burn too many bridges and people are gonna be like,

912
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: are you This is ridiculous. But I think former contestants

913
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: are saying she's doing something that nobody else has ever done. Yeah,

914
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: did you see how chummy it looked like she and

915
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Hannah were during the road ceremony. M I didn't see this.

916
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, her arm was around her Hannah, Hannah, that

917
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: was really snugly with Demi. I Uh, let's move on. Then,

918
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: so we got the corny Demi situation. Demi continues to

919
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: be Demi. She continues to call people out, and then

920
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: we get this moment where Hannah and Caitlin speak. It's weird.

921
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: It is weird. I want to pause and say, what

922
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: is your I think both women have a history that

923
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: we still will never know, Like there's something that they

924
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: still just touch on this, like, Hey, I'm sorry that

925
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: there's been pain in our past. Um, I don't know

926
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: what that pain is when it comes to their friendship.

927
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: But yeah, actually I want to hear what you think

928
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: that was weird? Right? It was so weird, And I

929
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: would say it would have to do with Kaylin coming

930
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: out with her sexual assault story, but she producers knew

931
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: about that going into the season. And I say this

932
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: only because she was very outspoken about it during her

933
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: run for Miss USA. So it's interesting if they were

934
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: trying to change Klin's narrative for the season to wrap

935
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: bit up like that, I could see them wanting to

936
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, no, Calin is going to be a

937
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: more sympathetic character. We don't want her wrapped up in

938
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: this pageant drama. Do you understand I'm tracking? Yeah, So

939
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: you're saying that this Hannah Kalin situation just seemed to

940
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: be non important anymore when it came to what Klin

941
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: was about to tell Colton. I think so. I think

942
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: that might be the truth, but I also think that

943
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: it was a weird way of wrapping it up, knowing

944
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: that the story would be revealed at some point. So

945
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see whether they just decided to

946
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: take a break for this episode or the or the

947
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: drama resumes in the weeks to come. I think it's done.

948
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's done too. That was

949
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: the general vibe. They didn't They didn't show anything and

950
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: seen to the next episode. But why would they make

951
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: it such a thing, in such a vague thing to

952
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: just wrap it up like that. Here's my theory. I

953
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: think there are stories um in this season. There are

954
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: a lot bigger and more compelling than two people arguing

955
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: about something that they obviously weren't opening up about. We

956
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: were never going to find out what happened to Hannah

957
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: and Kaylin in their past to make them no longer

958
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: be friends. We're never going to know that, and so

959
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: as a result, I think it just got tiring. Like

960
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: I was tired of hearing the two. I was obsessed

961
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: with it. I was completely compelled. But I think I

962
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: was so compelled because the vagueness of the scenario. I

963
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: was like, I just need to know what spurred this on.

964
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: But now, but now that Kylin has come out about

965
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: her story, I agree that it's just too. It was

966
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: just a much more important thing to talk about than

967
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: the pageant drama. It's, uh, you know what, it kind

968
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: of reminds me of I was thinking back here, when

969
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: was the last time on The Bachelor Bachelor I that

970
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: we've had to top contender because they're both like very

971
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: their top um contestants on this season. I think they're

972
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: both into Colton. Colton's into both of them that there's

973
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: been this much like drama behind him. And I was

974
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: going to say Sean and Nick. Yeah, probably Blake, right,

975
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: I mean Sean and Nick are the two that stand

976
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: out the most. Is just they just didn't like each other.

977
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: They weren't going to get along. There was no way

978
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: they're going to get along, and they were never really

979
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: okay with it because it was still a conversation that

980
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: would happen a lot. But this is more once in

981
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: a lifetime because they knew they both knew each other

982
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: before the show. Yeah, yeah, this is what about Wall

983
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: Boom and what's his name? Last a couple of seasons ago,

984
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: But they weren't top contenders, No, but they both knew

985
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: each other and came in with drama. Yeah, that's a

986
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah. I don't even remember their names. I

987
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: don't remember the other Wait, what Blake Eastan? Do you

988
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: just remember that from the top of your head? East

989
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Eastern is a secret like Bachelor Nation. That's awesome that

990
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: you remember that. Yeah, he's never missed an episode. Um,

991
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: all right, But but bottom line is, I'm still confused.

992
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: I think that I think it's because Caitlin has a

993
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: lot of other things to be talking about. But I

994
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: think it was a weird way to end the field

995
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: is super weird. There was the main focus on the

996
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: past two episodes, and then it was just like, Okay,

997
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: we're just gonna sit down, have another vague conversation and

998
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: be cordial. Now, yeah, out of nowhere. It really was

999
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: like out of nowhere, all right, let's fix it. Done, Okay,

1000
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: move on. Well all right, well that sounds great. I

1001
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: can see Kalyn being over it now after that conversation,

1002
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: but I can't see Hannah dropping it. We'll have to

1003
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: wait and see. It will be a storeline to see

1004
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: how it plays out. Um. We've talked about Klin at

1005
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast. Her one on one date

1006
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: with Colton UM was was captivating, compelling and and vulnerable

1007
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: and raw and and once again, because we're not going

1008
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: to dive deep into what was shared necessarily um during

1009
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: that day. Again, we've talked about earlier. I do want

1010
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: to take some time and point out that if you

1011
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: are a survivor, if you are somebody at any level,

1012
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: or if you know somebody that is a survivor, please

1013
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: pass this message. Uh there's rain dot org. Rain stands

1014
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: Up Against Rape Abuse Incest Crisis number at six hope.

1015
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: That's six hope. Please contact rain UM for for anything,

1016
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: for donations, for support, um to tell your story. So

1017
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: let's touch on though the the aspect of this one

1018
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: on one date that I think um uh was was

1019
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: maybe interesting in terms of love this Kalin now, not

1020
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: only because of the vulnerability that she shared, but this

1021
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: their connection is very, very dynamic. I think she's top

1022
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: place now, you do. She's the front runner. That's so

1023
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you what she is she you're

1024
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: number one right now? Yeah? Interesting? I think she is too,

1025
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: because you know who I had as my number one

1026
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: going into this week. I was kind of thinking about this,

1027
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: who Hannah, j Hannah g and en Case, Cassie. But

1028
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: Cassie and Colton's deal is just weird to me right now,

1029
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't get it. I know that she hasn't

1030
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: been around a lot. That's a typical thing for you know,

1031
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of a real front runner as well. But they

1032
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: had a couple interactions on this episode and I just

1033
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: don't see it. I feel like, either Colton is just

1034
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: so smitten that he's awkward. I thought Colton was gonna

1035
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: be a lot more awkward as the Bachelor than he's been,

1036
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: But he gets awkward with Cassie, really gets awkward. He

1037
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: did with the whole brother sister joke. It went a

1038
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: little far, but I think it was awkward. I like,

1039
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: you awkward and I don't know how to handle myself awkward. Yeah. No,

1040
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: I think it's exactly that. So I still think she's

1041
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: up there, but they're just like their chemistry or their

1042
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: flow is not even close to where Kaitlin's at. Oh no, no, know,

1043
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: That's why I think that Kaylin surpassed everyone because they

1044
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: got so vulnerable. He is, like he looks at her

1045
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: with hearts in his eyes, for sure. And then when

1046
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: I saw his interaction with Hannah Gy afterward on the

1047
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: bed and all that, I was like, I don't feel

1048
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: it as much as I felt him with Kylin five

1049
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: minutes ago. Was that awkward for you to watch the

1050
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: bed thing? Yeah? A little bit. It was weird. It

1051
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: was weird. There's like everything was okay until like there's

1052
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: one moment where like reaches over and like pulls her

1053
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: on top, and I was like, what am I about

1054
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: to watch? I know, right, they would have never shown

1055
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: that with another bachelor, No, but with Colton, like they

1056
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: did like a side angle and you can see the

1057
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: space and he's still like smiling like a little boy,

1058
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, this is innocent, Like there's

1059
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: this is fine, and then making the bed afterwards just

1060
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: straight up. I just it was just something. I just

1061
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Speaker 1: I didn't have an easy I never have an easy

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00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: time watching people like make out obviously, like especially on

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00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: a Rady show when it's like friends of yours or

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: people that you know. Um, but that one was weird. No,

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00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: that one, that one got me a little bit. Hannah

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: g still frown her so Ashley before we move on

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Speaker 1: to the eliminations after this week's episode, can you give

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00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: me your top three? I'm still gonna go with Hannah g.

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00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: Kalin And I mean I would throw Cassie in there,

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00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: but she's had so little time and it's weird how

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00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: little time she's had. Yeah, uh, she seems I also

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: feel like Cassie maybe like really shy, like she doesn't

1073
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: really know how to pursue a guy, which is I

1074
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: think totally normal. Yeah, I'd say that's my top three

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00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: as well. Write us at Benn actually at i heeart

1076
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: media dot com for your top threes or tweet us

1077
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: uh and make sure you you hashtag almost Famous podcast.

1078
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: So the two people that went home this week were

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00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Tracy and Courtney kind of expected both not shockers. Uh,

1080
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: are you going with it? It was only Tracy and Courtney.

1081
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: There's not one other that's so weird small elimination week. Uh,

1082
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: not surprised by either. No, he did not like the

1083
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: negative vibes that he got from Courtney because even though

1084
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: she may not have been a cancer, I think that

1085
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: she didn't have like positive fun Colton vibes. And then Tracy,

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01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: they just never had chemistry. No, no, no, it was

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: time to go. So uh, as we only have a

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01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: few minutes left, we have some serious Bachelor news. I've

1089
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: been so looking forward to it. It's a ridiculous amount

1090
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: of stuff we have to talk about. Uh. So far,

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: Colton is doing great. Um, he's as innocent as as

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01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: innocent can be. His only criticism would be that the

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01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: guy just is a little awkward sometimes around the women,

1094
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: but that's endearing and we love that about him. Hearing

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, we we we don't like the smooth operators,

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: those guys. We don't speaking to smooth operators. Um. Tanner,

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01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: Tolbert and Jade are having their second baby. Actually, I

1098
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: know you know a lot more about this than I do.

1099
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: I found out two weeks ago, and we're so happy

1100
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: for them. It was funny because they were trying. It

1101
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: sounds so stupid. They're trying not to conceive at a

1102
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: certain like window of time because they knew that that

1103
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: would interfere with our wedding. And let's just say that

1104
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: their due day is very near our wedding, so it'll

1105
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: be interesting. I don't think Jade's going to be able

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: to attend, but and she's supposed to be a bridesmaid.

1107
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: But Tanner is supposed to be are efficient, and he

1108
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: is allowing himself more of a window to like keep

1109
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: the you know, to stay inefficient. Jared and I still

1110
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: just need to figure out whether we were okay with

1111
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: having Tanner as the efficient with a strong backup so

1112
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: too prepared deficients, or just to go with our backup

1113
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: who we planned on, who we had already asked to

1114
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: give a speech at our wedding, but the backup doesn't

1115
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: even know who he is yet. J J. Lane definitely not. Um. Yeah,

1116
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: I think this is something obviously celebrate. It's just it

1117
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: does kind of like it's just a little sad. I'm

1118
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 1: not sad. How do you want to say this? Yeah,

1119
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: let's say sad, But that is fine. It's we're very

1120
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: very happy for them. They have wanted you know, they've

1121
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: been trying for a little bit now, and we're just

1122
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: really happy it happened. It's kind of just funny the

1123
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: way it landed on a very close date. I'll be honest,

1124
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm really piste off because there's not many

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01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: times in life that I get to spend time with

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: Channer than Jade, and I knew at your wedding that

1127
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: was gonna be one of those times. And they have

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: to choose to get pregnant. Like they're married, they can

1129
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: have sex any time you want, just wait a few months,

1130
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: Like that's not that big of a deal. So for

1131
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 1: me and me selfishly, I'm not happy about it. Well,

1132
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure Tanner will come because unless if she gives

1133
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: birth beforehand, he's gonna at least be in attendance. Yeah,

1134
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: that's fine, but we're all we're all very sad and

1135
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: happy at the same time, and they feel the same way.

1136
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: It sounds weird, but like they're very stressed to tell us.

1137
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were. Hey, we love them very much.

1138
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: They've been good friends to all of us, but especially

1139
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: you and Jared, and I know they would love to

1140
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: be there. Also a couple of other Bachelor news. Um. Actually,

1141
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear some of your thoughts on

1142
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: this stuff. It was Colton's birthday this week. Happy birthday

1143
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: to Colton, Happy birthday, year old baby. He's a twenty

1144
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: seven year old baby. For his birthday, SNL did a

1145
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: spoof on him, the Virgin Hunk Bolton from Turd River, Colorado.

1146
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: I love SNL, Um, I just am sick of these

1147
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: like little spoons because it's the same thing every year.

1148
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: The woman come up, Hey, can I steal you? Can

1149
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: I interrupt you? They say the same thing in the

1150
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: bachler just sits there and goes interesting. It's like they

1151
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: just changed the bachelor's name and where he's from, and

1152
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: that's all they do. They could be more creative with it.

1153
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: I will say that. But Tour River Colorado is pretty great.

1154
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: Uh from Denver, so like, it's not like it's a

1155
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: cool city, right. I got to talk about Chris Harrison

1156
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: and his new girlfriend, Lauren Seema, a friend of ours.

1157
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: So crazy. I just spent last weekend in Cancoon with

1158
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: Lauren and we spent like of the weekend with her

1159
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: trying to guess who her new boyfriend was. They've been

1160
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: dating for a while now, but she wouldn't crack. We

1161
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: played like twenty questions who are you dating? She didn't crack.

1162
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: Jared did say, Lauren, is it Chris Harrison? Or has

1163
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: this guy ever accepted a rose? And she just skimmed

1164
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: right by it. She's a host, you know, she knows

1165
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: how to think quickly on her feet. She's good. Yeah,

1166
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: So it's really funny. I remember a conversation I had

1167
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: with Lauren. We love Lord. I think this is great.

1168
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: Um unexpected. It feels weird to see him in pictures together, honestly,

1169
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: UM like cuddling up. But the had a conversation with her.

1170
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's probably been a month ago maybe,

1171
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: and uh, and she was telling me about her new

1172
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: her new partner. You know, she was dating somebody. She's

1173
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: super into it. She didn't know where it was going,

1174
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: but she had this like giddiness in her voice, like

1175
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: you could tell us she was really excited, but she

1176
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: doesn't break and and honestly, I was trying to think

1177
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: about it today. I think in that same conversation, she

1178
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: asked me, what's your thoughts on Chris, Like Chris Harrison? Yeah, like,

1179
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: because you know Chris and I think at that time

1180
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: I had played golf or something together and we were

1181
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, she just like threw it out there. And

1182
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: I remember that question being asked, and I remember being like,

1183
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: I love Chris, like he's one of the best dudes.

1184
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: I know, Like he's been a great to me and

1185
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. And I think she did that

1186
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: in her little sneaky way, um to get some not

1187
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: some third I think she knows him. But anyways, where

1188
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: do you think this is going? Is this? Like? Is

1189
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: it serious? I wanted to be serious so bad. They're

1190
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: so sexy together. Yeah, they are, like it. I like

1191
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: it and I love how happy she was, Like she

1192
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: couldn't stop gushing about whoever her boyfriend was that's so

1193
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: good to hear. She just talked about good she fell

1194
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: and she had never felt that before. Happy for them,

1195
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Um, I bet we're gonna see him

1196
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: out a lot now. Uh, no hiding it. They're all

1197
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: over the news. Also, five year anniversary for Sean and

1198
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: Catherine Bachelor Nations one of bachel nations favorite couples. Uh.

1199
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: They celebrated five years since their wedding. And what Sean

1200
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: is now one of three people three bachelors to marry

1201
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: somebody from their season, right, the three bachelor's that's right,

1202
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: and the only one to marry his winner. Um, good point. Wow,

1203
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: that's that's not that's a good point. Hey, I gotta

1204
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: hear what you think of Bibiana slamming Peter cross Her

1205
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: continues to pop up. People love Peter, but people also

1206
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: feel like he uh he's got some some skeletons in

1207
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: the closet. I think we need to bring Biby on

1208
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: on to explain her something so too. I don't really

1209
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: want to speak on her behalf. All we know is

1210
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: from a couple of tweets. Bibby said that when Peter

1211
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: came to visit Miami and that picture was taken them

1212
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: at the heat game that he stayed at her apartment

1213
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: for four nights and then ended up leaving without saying

1214
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: goodbye and with ever without saying thank you, and she

1215
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: never heard from him again, kind of like he was

1216
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: using her for a hotel. We've got to check in with, Bibby.

1217
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,959
Speaker 1: But you're a spot on. That's exactly how the tweets read,

1218
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: and that's what my take was. And it became very

1219
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: very captivating, controversial, and it spread like wildfire amongst the public.

1220
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: So the here's the update. We're gonna bring baby on

1221
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: if she wants to talk about it. Here from her Uh,

1222
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: and here exactly went down. Finally. Uh, this guy, he

1223
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: continues to speaking of pests. The pest that has been loved,

1224
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: that's been in our podcast and been great to us,

1225
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: but one that has continued to be captivating but been

1226
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: quiet recently. Chad Johnson Um maybe one of the most

1227
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: famous villains. Uh, where's a shirt that says f you?

1228
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison? Is he selling these shirts? Like? What is

1229
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: he doing? Well, he's making a headline, that's what he's doing.

1230
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: And it's a little bit funny because that's what he

1231
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: said on his season famously infamously, but he's been gone

1232
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: for so long now, and and I mean, I get it,

1233
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: you and I still make a living on this show,

1234
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: But why do why do a T shirt? I mean,

1235
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: I guess we're trying. But he rumors he's dating Kinder Wilkinson,

1236
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: who I remember watching like in high school during that

1237
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: like what there was a show with Hugh Hefner and stuff.

1238
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: Um is this is this a real thing? It looks

1239
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: like it because they were holding hands outside of a restaurant,

1240
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: So that makes it seem like they went on a

1241
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: day and they were into each other enough to hold hands.

1242
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting to me this. This feels like a

1243
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: good couple, right, yeah, I mean that's like, that's quite

1244
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: the reality star couple. It really. I'm looking at the

1245
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 1: picture now, that's definitely a couple. I'm looking at the

1246
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: picture now pent like they're something's happening. They're smiling, holding hands,

1247
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: dancing on TMC. It's yes, yeah, that doesn't look like

1248
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: a first date things dating thing. That's a dating thing. Chad.

1249
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it now unless they want to correct us.

1250
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,879
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson and Kender Wilkinson look like they're dating. She's saying,

1251
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: she's saying no. She said it in a little bit

1252
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: of a salty way that so maybe it has already.

1253
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: You want me to, I'll just read it, okay. She

1254
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: posted a photo of herself with her friend and wrote,

1255
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: we had a lot to catch up on after about

1256
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: two days of her being m I a filled her

1257
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:04,480
Speaker 1: in about these recent annoying rumors and how my vagina

1258
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: is still very closed up. Anyways, beautiful day with my

1259
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: love always a breath of fresh air. So maybe they're

1260
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: not sleeping together. Um, I don't know what's happening, Kendra.

1261
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't think has really been seen out with anybody

1262
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: significant since she broke up with Hank Basket. She I

1263
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: grew up. I grew up with Kinder Wilkinson. I mean

1264
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: she was. She was a big time star back back

1265
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: in the day. She is still is. But yeah, we'll see.

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