Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Fast Track. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Scott Benjamin, and you know, it's a fairly new show.
Speaker 1: We're we're still kind of getting our our sea legs here,
Speaker 1: trying to uh figure out exactly what we're doing with
Speaker 1: this program, but we do have a focus, and the
Speaker 1: focus is we're going to be concentrated on things that
Speaker 1: are about quick cars, about fast cars, about people to
Speaker 1: go fast, about um, anything really that goes fast. And
Speaker 1: you know what's funny is I sometimes like to take
Speaker 1: it the other direction. Maybe we'll talk about some things
Speaker 1: that go slow and and maybe we'll do that at
Speaker 1: some point today because it's kind of a nice reversal
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of see like what the opposite
Speaker 1: end of the spectrum is. Like we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: new cars and some of the quickest new cars that
Speaker 1: you can buy, and the price range that we're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about is less than thirty thousand dollars. Now,
Speaker 1: the Kelly Blue Book average price for a new car
Speaker 1: in nine is around thirty seven thousand, two eighty five
Speaker 1: dollars this year, So me nineteen, I think I believe
Speaker 1: that they go with a sedan price, you know, just
Speaker 1: kind of the middle of the road price there. The
Speaker 1: average new price for a car is thirty seven thousand,
Speaker 1: two eighty five dollars. That's here in the United States.
Speaker 1: That seemed to creep up every year by about three
Speaker 1: or four percent something like that. Sometimes this is a
Speaker 1: little as two, but usually it's around three percent. So
Speaker 1: you can count on adding three percent to that for
Speaker 1: twenty and I'm sure that will continue to climb as
Speaker 1: we get later and later here. But I want to
Speaker 1: talk about cars that are less than thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to begin with. And I think before we even start
Speaker 1: that one thing that I wanted to mention here, and
Speaker 1: this is just kind of like an off topic thing
Speaker 1: that I that I thought was interesting. Um. I made
Speaker 1: a road trip last weekend. I went to Indiana and
Speaker 1: I went to northern Indiana for a family reunion. And
Speaker 1: there were a good number of people there. They're probably
Speaker 1: eighty people that showed up in this park there and
Speaker 1: this is in Wabash, Indiana. And got a lot of
Speaker 1: family there, obviously, and you know, some distant relatives that
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen for a long time, and one of
Speaker 1: them was my cousin. And I have seen him recently,
Speaker 1: and I know he was a car stuff listener when
Speaker 1: I had the other show. But he's a younger cousin
Speaker 1: of mine first cousin, and I do know that he
Speaker 1: rides motorcycles. So when I saw him there at the reunion,
Speaker 1: I decided I had talked to him a little bit
Speaker 1: about that, and he said that he had recently made
Speaker 1: what was, for him, I think, the longest trip that
Speaker 1: he ever made on his motorcycle, and it was up
Speaker 1: into the southern part of Michigan and he went to
Speaker 1: I think it was like an RC track and outdoor
Speaker 1: RC track for radio controlled vehicles. That was, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty intense. I think it was a pretty cool thing.
Speaker 1: He said that, you know, some people are spending thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars, you know, four or five, six thousand dollars
Speaker 1: on these on these rigs for um off road RC
Speaker 1: vehicles and racing them in some kind of I don't
Speaker 1: know if as a championship or whatever. It's just a
Speaker 1: you know, weekend hobby or and something like that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he made the trip up there, and uh, I was
Speaker 1: asking him about helmet laws because I had when I
Speaker 1: as soon as I crossed into Indiana, I realized that
Speaker 1: they did not have the same helmet laws as we
Speaker 1: have here in Georgia or even you know, in Kentucky
Speaker 1: or Tennessee. It's it's a little different. In Indiana. Anybody
Speaker 1: that is under the age of eighteen is required to
Speaker 1: wear a helmet. Anybody over the age of eighteen, it's optional.
Speaker 1: You don't have to. And I saw this many many
Speaker 1: times on the road as I was driving there, because
Speaker 1: it's it's northern Indiana really, so a lot of time
Speaker 1: spent in Indiana, and I was noticing that. You know.
Speaker 1: So there's some people on the highway going ninety miles
Speaker 1: an hour, you know, a husband, wife on a on
Speaker 1: a great big Harley Davidson motorcycle, both of them not
Speaker 1: wearing helmets. And it's just it's a little bit startling
Speaker 1: when you see it. I mean, it's up to them,
Speaker 1: it's their own you know, right to you know, wear them,
Speaker 1: are not wear them. It doesn't matter to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's up to them. But it is startling to see it,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when they're going that type of speed
Speaker 1: on the highway. It's just it seems wrong. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how better to put that again, it's
Speaker 1: it's everybody's personal decision. I agree with that. That's fine.
Speaker 1: But I asked him if he rides a you know,
Speaker 1: wears a helmet when he rides, and he says that
Speaker 1: he always does. And one thing that he mentioned almost immediately,
Speaker 1: and this is this is where this whole story is going.
Speaker 1: I guess, is that something that you don't normally think of,
Speaker 1: and this is one very good reason to wear a helmet. Um.
Speaker 1: He was talking about how it was raining on the
Speaker 1: way there, and you know, the rain kind of hurts
Speaker 1: your skins. As you're right. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: ever been on a roller coaster maybe or maybe you
Speaker 1: are a motorcycle rider, uh, going you know, sixty seventy
Speaker 1: miles an hour, rain really hurts when it hits you
Speaker 1: going sixty or seventy miles an hour. The same thing
Speaker 1: with a roller coaster. It's that same feeling. He said
Speaker 1: he encountered some rain on that trip, but he said that,
Speaker 1: you know, he has always wore a helmet when he rides.
Speaker 1: And one really good lesson that he got early on
Speaker 1: was when he was fortunately wearing a helmet. And this
Speaker 1: is one of those things that is just one of
Speaker 1: those completely unexpected things that you would never ever consider happening.
Speaker 1: But he was out for an evening ride and he
Speaker 1: was somewhere in the Indiana countryside there going I don't know,
Speaker 1: a fifty plus miles an hour, whatever it was, whatever
Speaker 1: the speed was. A bat hit him in the head.
Speaker 1: A bat. So he's flying, he's driving around a corner. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, bat comes out of nowhere. I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't even have time to really to react, you don't
Speaker 1: have time to duck or anything. Bat strikes him in
Speaker 1: the in the face shield and of course the bats destroyed.
Speaker 1: But there's just this gross stuff all over his his
Speaker 1: helmet and you know, on his shoulder. And he said
Speaker 1: it was really kind of sickening, you know, the result
Speaker 1: of it. But he was imagining what would happen if
Speaker 1: he wasn't wearing that helmet when when he struck this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would have could cast some damage, It
Speaker 1: could have cost some you know, damage to his eye,
Speaker 1: It could have you know, broken his jar or whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: I've been in another vehicle. I was in a Cadillac
Speaker 1: one time that hit a bat, you know, in the
Speaker 1: same place in Indiana when we were out for an
Speaker 1: evening drive. My grandfather was driving, and it struck the
Speaker 1: windshield when I was in the front seat, and it
Speaker 1: was it was pretty scary. It's very abrupt and and
Speaker 1: it happens quickly. But um, I don't think i'd ever
Speaker 1: heard of a motorcycle rider ever talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: hitting a bat in the evening. I thought it was
Speaker 1: really interesting and uh, kind of unusual. It's one of
Speaker 1: those things again that you just don't think about it,
Speaker 1: and it's probably a good reason to wear that helmet
Speaker 1: with a face shield. I do want to say, gosh, man,
Speaker 1: it seems like we're never gonna get into this topic.
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a few things that I want
Speaker 1: to say. We're not talking about the fastest cars. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the quickest cars that you know, the zero
Speaker 1: to sixties speeds and so so quick doesn't necessarily translate
Speaker 1: to fast, and that's not I just don't think they're
Speaker 1: the same thing. Uh. Fast is where you're typically talking
Speaker 1: about something that's you know, overall, you know, high speed
Speaker 1: at top speed, that's uh, that's greater than a typical
Speaker 1: road car. We're not talking about cars like that. We're
Speaker 1: talking about cars that can quickly get from zero to
Speaker 1: sixty miles per hour, and there's about fifteen or sixteen
Speaker 1: on this list, and I'm gonna go through these relatively quickly,
Speaker 1: and uh, and then we're gonna take this conversation in
Speaker 1: a different direction because I have found um a lot
Speaker 1: of information about the zero to sixty tests that I
Speaker 1: think you would be or you would find interesting rather
Speaker 1: and even another test that is possibly even more meaningless.
Speaker 1: And believe it or not that maybe we'll give just
Speaker 1: a little bit away here, but uh, let's begin here now.
Speaker 1: I want to say that these cars start at six
Speaker 1: point three seconds, which is not add for zero to
Speaker 1: sixty speed. The six point three seconds is quick. And
Speaker 1: if you if you think back, if you're old enough
Speaker 1: to remember, back into the nineteen eighties, let's say, mid
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, anything that was going in uh, you know,
Speaker 1: sixty miles per hour in about eight seconds was considered
Speaker 1: a quick car. That was a quick acceleration. And now
Speaker 1: we're getting into you know, six seconds below six seconds,
Speaker 1: and there of course there's a lot of cars that
Speaker 1: will go faster than that, and we'll we'll talk about
Speaker 1: those as well. You know, the fastest cars, but again
Speaker 1: under thirty thousand dollars is the is the price point
Speaker 1: that we're talking about here. And this all begins with
Speaker 1: the Accura I l X, which will go zero to
Speaker 1: sixty and six point three seconds. Now, that is a
Speaker 1: two one horse power four cylinder engine. The price here
Speaker 1: is about twenty six thousand eight, So, um, we're talking
Speaker 1: about a relatively quick car for you know, about twenty
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. Um it has an eight speed, dual
Speaker 1: clutch automatic transmission, and um, I guess just a bargain
Speaker 1: small sports it in if you want to look at
Speaker 1: it that way. Now, I'm not selling in any of
Speaker 1: these cars, so I understand that I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: talk anyone up over the other one. But the speeds
Speaker 1: are gonna go faster and faster as we talk here.
Speaker 1: And a couple of these are tied, you know, from
Speaker 1: maybe the to the top spot here, you know, like
Speaker 1: the first three I think are in the six point
Speaker 1: three second range, which includes the Fiat one Spider, which
Speaker 1: also comes in at six point three seconds. That one
Speaker 1: is priced exactly the same twenty thousand six. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: two hundars less. It's six five dollars, so five and
Speaker 1: essentially this is like um, I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to look at it simply, this is essentially like the
Speaker 1: Masda m X five Miata. I mean, it's very very
Speaker 1: closely related to that car. UM. It has a six
Speaker 1: speed manual transmission that's the standard for the Fiat. And
Speaker 1: again six point three seconds, pretty quick. Um. Another one
Speaker 1: that's quick is the Honest Civic s I coupe, which
Speaker 1: is at six point three seconds. Again two and five horsepower,
Speaker 1: four cylinder engine. The base prices a little bit lower here,
Speaker 1: it's twenty two and twenty dollars. Now, you know, one
Speaker 1: one quick thing here as we as we go through,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find that a lot of these cars have
Speaker 1: automatic transmissions. And a lot of people will say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, why why even talk about those cars? Why
Speaker 1: don't just talk about the manual transmissions are typically faster.
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily the case anymore. We're finding that some
Speaker 1: of these automatic transmissions are performing so well, they shift
Speaker 1: so well that they are able to shift better than
Speaker 1: somebody could shift a manual transmission. And that wasn't always
Speaker 1: a case in the past. But you'll find that a
Speaker 1: lot of these cars on this list do have a
Speaker 1: an automatic transmission that that performs exceedingly well or even
Speaker 1: better than um a human could shift, and I I
Speaker 1: ten years ago, I wouldn't have said anything like that. Usually,
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking or typically we were talking about
Speaker 1: the manual transmissions and how that was the option to
Speaker 1: get because you could shift just a little bit faster.
Speaker 1: But that's not the case anymore. Moving on to number
Speaker 1: four or sixteen, we're talking about the Dodge Challenger, which
Speaker 1: is a V six powered car, and this it's zero
Speaker 1: sixteen about three point I'm sorry three seconds now six
Speaker 1: point two seconds, six point two seconds, and that's the
Speaker 1: base price of around twenty nine and three forty. This
Speaker 1: one does jump up about a hundred horse power from
Speaker 1: the previous entry, so it's about three hundred and five
Speaker 1: horse power versus the two and five we just talked
Speaker 1: about with the Honda Civic. Again, this one is paired
Speaker 1: to an eight speed automatic transmission, so again that's another
Speaker 1: another automatic transmission as uh well, the next one is
Speaker 1: not as a matter of fact, it's the Toyota eighty
Speaker 1: six or the suber U b r Z, which also
Speaker 1: comes in at six point two seconds and This goes
Speaker 1: back down to two h five horse power. This has
Speaker 1: a flat four engine with two hundred five horse power
Speaker 1: and a standard six speed manual transmission. That's what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. For the six point two seconds. The base
Speaker 1: price is a little bit lower than the previous entry
Speaker 1: at eighty or six eighty for the Subaru. And then
Speaker 1: we go on to another V six powered car. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the number six of sixteen, which is the
Speaker 1: heavy Impala, and that comes in at six point one seconds.
Speaker 1: Again another three five horsepower V six engine. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's just quickly buzz through these because I do
Speaker 1: want to get to some more interesting things I think
Speaker 1: anyways in this podcast. Um, and that is kind of
Speaker 1: the reasoning behind some of the zero to sixty tests
Speaker 1: that we see. And uh, and what they mean really
Speaker 1: are they? Are they meaningful to us in in a
Speaker 1: in a real way. Um, there's the Mini Cooper S
Speaker 1: hard top at six point one seconds. There's the Honda
Speaker 1: KNA turbo at six seconds, so and even six seconds
Speaker 1: for the for a Honda. Another Hondai which comes in
Speaker 1: at six seconds is the Veloctri turbo. Then the Volkswagen
Speaker 1: g t I at five point eight seconds, So we're
Speaker 1: getting into the five second range here, and it's only
Speaker 1: going to drop from this point. Uh, there's the Mazda
Speaker 1: m X five Miata, which is five point seven seconds
Speaker 1: zero to sixty. Get this is this is a strange one.
Speaker 1: Buick Regal sport Back comes in at five point six seconds.
Speaker 1: Now I wouldn't have expected a Buick to be on
Speaker 1: this list, but it is. Um This one has a
Speaker 1: two fifty horsepower turbo charge two lead four cylinder with
Speaker 1: a nine speed automatic transmission. Now I just I never
Speaker 1: would have guessed abutle could be on the on the list,
Speaker 1: especially this high. At five point six seconds, that's a
Speaker 1: that's pretty quick, and it comes in at tho so
Speaker 1: less than twenty six thousand dollars. The next one I
Speaker 1: would expect to be on this list, and that is
Speaker 1: the Subaru w r X, and that comes in at
Speaker 1: five point five seconds. But that's still not the fastest
Speaker 1: one because we are talking about, uh, the Chevy Camaro
Speaker 1: U the two leader turbo, which comes in at five
Speaker 1: point one seconds. And then there's the Ford Mustang Eco
Speaker 1: Boost which also comes in at five point one seconds.
Speaker 1: So you can still get a car that will go
Speaker 1: zero to sixty in five seconds for under thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a that's a pretty good option
Speaker 1: for a lot of people if they're not willing to
Speaker 1: go as high as you know, what's the average price?
Speaker 1: Not thirty seven two five is what I said. Um,
Speaker 1: so that is I don't know. I sets a positive
Speaker 1: note and you know something that uh, um, if you're
Speaker 1: out in new car shopping, you might want to check
Speaker 1: that out if zero to sixty is something that's important
Speaker 1: to you. And it turns out that zero to sixty,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's something that's in your head.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something you know I thought. I always thought
Speaker 1: that zero to sixty was an important measurement as well.
Speaker 1: And uh and there's probably a good reason behind that
Speaker 1: or why I thought that it was important. And we
Speaker 1: will talk about that in just a moment after we
Speaker 1: come back from a word from our sponsor. And we're
Speaker 1: back and you're listening to the Fast Track, and I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Scott Benjamin, and we were just talking about
Speaker 1: a kind of a long list, I guess, of the
Speaker 1: quickest cars that you can buy for less than thirty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and and I had about sixteen cars fifteen
Speaker 1: or sixteen cars there on that list, and I know
Speaker 1: that was a little bit overwhelming, and I hopefully we
Speaker 1: can get past this and talk about something that maybe
Speaker 1: is a little bit more meaningful to each one of us,
Speaker 1: or maybe even less meaningful to each one of us.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's kind of the conversation
Speaker 1: that goes along with this, because I had always looked
Speaker 1: at zero to sixty is as one of those things
Speaker 1: where you know, personally, when I'm when I'm buying a car,
Speaker 1: I want something that's kind of quick. I want something
Speaker 1: that feels good when I accelerate off the line or
Speaker 1: you know, from a standing start, you know, maybe to
Speaker 1: get onto the highway or something like that. And I
Speaker 1: think that maybe my thinking was a little bit flawed
Speaker 1: now in the in the way that um I was
Speaker 1: I was reading into how important a zero to sixty
Speaker 1: time is for a vehicle, and it seems like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of articles out there about how zero to
Speaker 1: sixty doesn't necessarily mean as much as you might think
Speaker 1: it does in daily driving or or you know, um,
Speaker 1: the numbers are something that that manufacturers like to brag about.
Speaker 1: And they all like to say that, you know, we
Speaker 1: have the quickest car from zero to sixty and U
Speaker 1: or um. They might even have a different measurement, as
Speaker 1: we'll talk about here in just a minute. There's one
Speaker 1: that's maybe even less meaningful, if you can, if you
Speaker 1: want to put it that way. I mean, I hate
Speaker 1: to say it that way because you know, all this
Speaker 1: stuff means something to somebody, but you know, you and
Speaker 1: I on on a daily basis, it doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 1: a whole lot. It's it's really cool for the manufacturers
Speaker 1: to be able to brag about this stuff, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: for for bragging rights. But um, it doesn't necessarily play
Speaker 1: out in the real world the way that we think
Speaker 1: it will, you know, the way it does on paper.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a way to look at this, I guess.
Speaker 1: And I've asked my wife. I've asked my daughter. I've
Speaker 1: asked some people around the office here. I've asked, you know,
Speaker 1: some of my relatives. I've asked some friends that I have.
Speaker 1: You know that I correspond with, what do you think
Speaker 1: about zero to sixty time? Is it important to you
Speaker 1: when you buy a vehicle and overwhelmingly so far. Everybody,
Speaker 1: every single one is really said it doesn't really come
Speaker 1: into their their thought process when they're buying a car.
Speaker 1: I think that there's you know, something that's like that.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're in the car and you're driving it,
Speaker 1: you want it to be quick, you want it to
Speaker 1: feel good. I don't think you necessarily look at that
Speaker 1: car and say, you know, I'm I'm interested in this
Speaker 1: car because it gets uh, it goes zero to sixty
Speaker 1: and five point one seconds versus five point eight seconds
Speaker 1: in the real world. The truth is, you're not going
Speaker 1: to use that. And I didn't really believe that until
Speaker 1: I read several articles about this, and it's going back,
Speaker 1: you know, a long time. It's not it's not something
Speaker 1: brand new that people are looking at and saying exactly why.
Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily matter. And the reality, I guess is
Speaker 1: that you know, you don't actually experience driving a vehicle
Speaker 1: zero sixty. It's kind of like a mismeasurement of a
Speaker 1: car's performance because it's there's very rarely a time when
Speaker 1: you're actually going zero to sixty from from a stoplight.
Speaker 1: You're typically not doing that because the speeds on that
Speaker 1: road if you're if you're unless you're breaking the law
Speaker 1: of course, and I think a lot of people do. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as far as like and trying to out
Speaker 1: accelerate the person next to you, You're not necessarily going
Speaker 1: to take it up to sixty or above immediately off
Speaker 1: the stop light, unless you are again trying to race
Speaker 1: against somebody next to you, or just you know, trying
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of fun. I guess when
Speaker 1: no one's around. Um, if you're going on too, if
Speaker 1: you're on an on ramp, um, maybe, but you're already
Speaker 1: kind of like at a rolling, rolling start, unless you're
Speaker 1: at a metered on ramp, which we have a lot
Speaker 1: of here in Atlanta, and that typically means anyway that
Speaker 1: you are accelerating into heavy traffic, and that's something different.
Speaker 1: So you're not necessarily going to take it all the
Speaker 1: way up to sixty again. UM, I do admit that,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a lot of fun kind of
Speaker 1: blasting onto a highway if there's you know, open road
Speaker 1: in front of me. The reality is, though you know
Speaker 1: you're already starting at a rolling start, you're starting at
Speaker 1: you know, ten, fifteen, maybe even twenty miles an hour
Speaker 1: as you come around the corner to get onto the
Speaker 1: on ramp and then and then begin your acceleration. So
Speaker 1: that's a little bit different. And you know, some of
Speaker 1: the best cars that I've had, some of the manual transmissions.
Speaker 1: My favorite gear is sometimes you know, second or third
Speaker 1: gear in that car. It's not necessarily first gear. And
Speaker 1: a lot of these cars that we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about here have kind of cheated the system in order
Speaker 1: to get to zero sixty by gearing. And I say cheated,
Speaker 1: I mean these are manufacturers that are doing this, but um,
Speaker 1: they have geared the cars so that you know, sixty
Speaker 1: is achieved in first gear for some of the bigger
Speaker 1: V eight engine cars. When you do that, you're you
Speaker 1: kind of take out the human equation out of the
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's just a matter of mashing down the accelerator,
Speaker 1: you know, dumping the clutch, going as fast as you can,
Speaker 1: and you get up to sixty it and no time practically,
Speaker 1: but that takes out, you know, the point where you
Speaker 1: have to shift, and that takes out a little bit
Speaker 1: of the skill out of the whole thing. And uh again,
Speaker 1: I think i've or you know, the viper does that.
Speaker 1: I think the one of the Mustangs does that maybe Corvette,
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure. I can't remember the list of
Speaker 1: manufacturers that have done that where you can achieve sixty
Speaker 1: in first gear and again just kind of take some
Speaker 1: of the some of the work out of it for
Speaker 1: for the human unless you have to shift. You know,
Speaker 1: there's really not a whole lot of skill involved in
Speaker 1: going sixty and it happens really really quick. UM. But honestly,
Speaker 1: like the thing is, zero to sixty is kind of
Speaker 1: a misleading measurement of performance. And that's because you know,
Speaker 1: most of it, like I said, most of the real
Speaker 1: world driving that we're talking about, you know, you're either
Speaker 1: starting with a rolling start or you know, maybe a
Speaker 1: better view of this, a better a better look at
Speaker 1: you know, the maybe the more usable speed would be
Speaker 1: from like you know, the thirty or even forty to sixty. UM.
Speaker 1: A lot of people use that as a measurement of
Speaker 1: performance of a vehicle. And and the reason behind that
Speaker 1: is because that's when you're passing another car on the highway,
Speaker 1: or if you're exited in the the corner on a track,
Speaker 1: or you know, even if you're exited in the corner, um,
Speaker 1: you know, not city necessarily, maybe out in the country
Speaker 1: or something, and you want to kind of get that
Speaker 1: that that adrenaline rush as you go around the corner
Speaker 1: and then and then accelerate out. Um really from like
Speaker 1: you know, forty to sixty thirty to sixty thirty to
Speaker 1: seventy what however you want to measure this. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different measurements there. That's really where
Speaker 1: the power matters, and that's where you can feel the
Speaker 1: acceleration of the car. You can feel, you know, the
Speaker 1: the strength of the car, the speed, the weight, the traction,
Speaker 1: all that matters more so, um, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as the gearing goes, UM, you know, the gearing tends
Speaker 1: to be a little bit better in that range. It's
Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, the uh the real quick I'm
Speaker 1: in first, but I have to shift into second almost immediately,
Speaker 1: unlike some of those other cars we talked about, the
Speaker 1: uh you know, the Viper or whatever. But they have
Speaker 1: taken some of the sensation out of driving, if you
Speaker 1: want to put it that way. And I think that
Speaker 1: one of the cars that they mentioned here in UH
Speaker 1: in one of the articles that I looked at, it
Speaker 1: was it's called digital trends dot com and you can
Speaker 1: look at something that they did here. They compared the
Speaker 1: Nissan gt R and the Aston Martin v Advantage gt. Now,
Speaker 1: both of these cars claimed to be entry level supercars
Speaker 1: and they both cost around a hundred thousand dollars. So
Speaker 1: I realize that these are expensive vehicles, but you know,
Speaker 1: because they are at that same price point and they
Speaker 1: are considered kind of these entry level supercars, you can
Speaker 1: compare them and uh, and maybe I don't know, judge
Speaker 1: them based on the sensation that they give you when
Speaker 1: you drive them. And on paper, it seems like there,
Speaker 1: as it says here in the article, there should be
Speaker 1: no comparison. The Nissan does zero to sixty and something
Speaker 1: like three seconds flat and the the Aston Martin zero
Speaker 1: to sixty speed is four point six seconds. So it
Speaker 1: seems like the g t R would be the car
Speaker 1: to drive, right, That would be the fun one to drive,
Speaker 1: and the it's definitely faster, and um, it should be
Speaker 1: should be the one that you choose, right based on
Speaker 1: zero to sixty. So the idea here is that if
Speaker 1: the zero to sixty times are are helpful, which they
Speaker 1: should be. Here, the difference between the cars isn't just
Speaker 1: a couple of tents of a second. It's it's actually
Speaker 1: a pretty big gap there. I mean there's there's um
Speaker 1: you know, between three seconds and four point six seconds.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a lot of distance between a lot
Speaker 1: of time. Rather be when the zero to sixty when
Speaker 1: it's reached. But but they do say this, And I've
Speaker 1: never driven either one of these cars. I've seen both
Speaker 1: of them on the road and and they're both very impressive,
Speaker 1: but I guess when you're driving them, it's a lot different.
Speaker 1: The thing is, the Aston actually feels a lot faster,
Speaker 1: and the reason is because the Nissan, I mean the
Speaker 1: Nissan GT are that the the function of getting up
Speaker 1: to sixty is so easy, it's achieved so quickly and
Speaker 1: in first gear, that there's really nothing to it. As
Speaker 1: I just mentioned before, it's just simply a matter of
Speaker 1: you know, dumping a collection going sixty miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Anybody can do it. All the all the sensation, all
Speaker 1: the feel, all the engine sounds, all of that is
Speaker 1: is relatively tame. And I understand that it's a it's
Speaker 1: a brutal car, I get it, but tame compared to
Speaker 1: the Aston. Martin so um, they say that, you know,
Speaker 1: the aston Martin acceleration is a little bit more exciting
Speaker 1: because it's more visceral. You hear the engine noise, you
Speaker 1: feel the vibration, you feel the steering wheel. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there's more feedback to the car, and that gives you
Speaker 1: a better sensation of speed. Even though you're getting there
Speaker 1: in four point six seconds, which is still lightning quick.
Speaker 1: Really you're still feeling that car and and it feels faster.
Speaker 1: It's kind of if I had to compare this to anything,
Speaker 1: I might even say that, Um, it's like when you're
Speaker 1: in a go cart or even an open top car
Speaker 1: and you feel like, you know, when you're low to
Speaker 1: the ground, you've got the wind blowing in your hair,
Speaker 1: you can hear the noise, you can feel it. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of rough. Uh. You could be in a
Speaker 1: go cart going thirty miles an hour and you think
Speaker 1: you're going a hundred miles an hour. That's just a
Speaker 1: sensation that you get. And that's it's kind of the
Speaker 1: idea behind some of these cars we're talking about, and
Speaker 1: and how they have you know, that that visceral feel,
Speaker 1: that sensation that you know they're going faster than they
Speaker 1: really are. And um, I know, just as a side note,
Speaker 1: I know my my my wife always thinks I'm going
Speaker 1: way faster in my car than she's going in her car.
Speaker 1: She's got a Jeep Jeep Wrangler, and it's a relatively
Speaker 1: you know, tall vehicle, and uh, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't have the same sound and feel as my
Speaker 1: car does, which is it's just a sedan. It's nothing special.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a Volkswagon c C. And um, it's
Speaker 1: just lower and it just has that since sation of
Speaker 1: of a faster speed. So we'll look over and think,
Speaker 1: I'm going, you know, ninety miles an hour and I'm
Speaker 1: going sixty miles an hour on the highway. It just
Speaker 1: has a different feel when you're that much closer to
Speaker 1: the pavement and you know, you don't have maybe that
Speaker 1: commanding view that you have above. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: maybe she feels a little bit less in control, uh
Speaker 1: than when you have that that high view advantage point.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about a couple of cars
Speaker 1: here that have, you know, some slower times and some
Speaker 1: faster times. I guess that you know the best and
Speaker 1: the and the worst cars for acceleration and we will
Speaker 1: do that quickly and uh and I promise you we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to this, uh, this other thing because there's
Speaker 1: a new I guess you'd call it a new record
Speaker 1: claimed by one of the manufacturers, and we do want
Speaker 1: to get to that. But we'll do that after we
Speaker 1: take a break for a word from our sponsor. And
Speaker 1: we're back and you're listening to the Fast Track, and
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, And just before the break,
Speaker 1: we were talking about some of the best and worst
Speaker 1: acceleration rates or speeds for cars in the in the world.
Speaker 1: And you know, I want to start out with a
Speaker 1: couple of cars here, the current production cars in the US,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna talk about some of the uh
Speaker 1: the slowest cars in the world and some of the
Speaker 1: slowest cars in the world. Has zero to sixty times UM.
Speaker 1: If you're still paying attention to zero sixty times after
Speaker 1: you know what we've just said here on this on
Speaker 1: this podcast, you want to get the best vehicles that
Speaker 1: are on the road right now in the US. You
Speaker 1: want to look at a couple of cars that are
Speaker 1: fairly expensive. There's the portion on eleven Carrera S, which
Speaker 1: is around four point one seconds zero to sixty per hour,
Speaker 1: and then the Corvette Stingray comes in next, the three
Speaker 1: L T at four point three. There's a Jaguar, the
Speaker 1: Camaro S S. There's the portion of seven eighteen Boxer,
Speaker 1: which is the base vehicle, comes in at four point
Speaker 1: four seconds. There's the Ford Mustang GT Premium, which comes
Speaker 1: in at four point nine seconds. Then there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of others here on this list. We're not gonna list
Speaker 1: all of them. You can find these lists if you
Speaker 1: want to at Consumer reports dot org and they're listed
Speaker 1: under the best and worst car acceleration. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you possibly a better site to had to go to
Speaker 1: even than that one in just a because um there's
Speaker 1: a site that is dedicated to nothing but zero to
Speaker 1: sixty times if you want to go buy these numbers.
Speaker 1: But on this list of best acceleration vehicles, we we
Speaker 1: just kind of wrapped up with the Ford Mustang, and uh,
Speaker 1: we'll mention here that there's also a Tesla, the Tesla
Speaker 1: model excess on their Mercedes Benz, another Tesla BMW, couple
Speaker 1: of them. Uh, there's a Nissan, there's a Maserati, of course,
Speaker 1: Dodge Jaguar. There's a whole bunch here on this list.
Speaker 1: And then they list the slowest vehicles, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you that the slowest cars in the list,
Speaker 1: these are the current US production vehicles slowest times, and
Speaker 1: so that the slowest one on the list is by
Speaker 1: far not the slowest one ever to be recorded zero
Speaker 1: to sixty, and I'll get to that in just a moment,
Speaker 1: But the current slowest production vehicle zero to sixty in
Speaker 1: the U S is the MITSUBC Mirage E S, which
Speaker 1: comes in at twelve point one second zero to sixty,
Speaker 1: and uh the Chevrolet Spark one LT which comes in
Speaker 1: at twelve seconds, then the Fiat five hundred Sport, which
Speaker 1: is funny that they call it the Fiat Sport at
Speaker 1: eleven point three seconds, and then the Toyota Prius, the
Speaker 1: Toyota c HR, then the Honda Kona, the Buke Encore
Speaker 1: Leather Edition, Ford Focus s E, which is the one
Speaker 1: leader engine, and then the Hyundai Tucson. All of those
Speaker 1: are right around eleven seconds, you know, somewhere around eleven
Speaker 1: point one, eleven point two three, you know, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Up to the Mitsubishi Mirage, which comes in again at
Speaker 1: twelve point one seconds. Now, those are the current US
Speaker 1: production vehicles. And you know, one one quick thing that
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentioned this, you know, we
Speaker 1: we said that zero to sixty might not be something
Speaker 1: that you necessarily pay a whole lot of attention to.
Speaker 1: But I can tell you one case where it probably
Speaker 1: does matter to you, and it's one that a lot
Speaker 1: of people find. It's a bad position a lot of
Speaker 1: people find themselves in. You pull out into traffic. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're exiting the shopping mall, or you're exiting you know,
Speaker 1: the grocery store or whatever, and you kind of misjudge
Speaker 1: the traffic that's approaching from the nearest stoplight. You pull
Speaker 1: out and you realize, hey, that traffic is moving a
Speaker 1: lot faster than I thought was going to try to
Speaker 1: accelerate and get you know, ahead of them or stay
Speaker 1: ahead of them. Uh so you know, you know, you're
Speaker 1: not making a burden of yourself there in the middle
Speaker 1: of traffic, and you realize quickly that you know, everybody's overtaken.
Speaker 1: You can't get that little car to go as fast
Speaker 1: as you wanted it to go, or that big car
Speaker 1: to go as fast as you wanted it to go.
Speaker 1: And that's one situation I think where it pays to
Speaker 1: have a car that accelerates kind of quick those situations
Speaker 1: where you you need to for your own safety go
Speaker 1: just a little bit faster or get up to speed quickly.
Speaker 1: And uh and I found myself in that position many
Speaker 1: many times. And uh, and that is kind of scary.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's one thing that you do need to
Speaker 1: consider when you're when you're thinking about a a quick
Speaker 1: accelerating vehicle getting back to slow accelerating vehicles. And this
Speaker 1: is I find this to be a funny list and
Speaker 1: and this is the site that I want to tell
Speaker 1: you about. The site is zero to sixty times dot com.
Speaker 1: That's zero to sixty times and sixty is six zero
Speaker 1: times dot com. And they do have they have several
Speaker 1: lists here. I mean, you can search cars by make
Speaker 1: model ranges. You know, cars that are in the two
Speaker 1: second range, cars that are in the five second range.
Speaker 1: You can search classics, hatchbacks, whatever you want. You can
Speaker 1: break this down just about any way. Really, you can
Speaker 1: browse by anything, manufacturer whatever you like. Uh. They have
Speaker 1: current and vehicles that were are out of production. And
Speaker 1: that's where this list comes in because this is the
Speaker 1: slowest cars in the world. Zero to sixty specs of
Speaker 1: the slowest cars in the world. Some of these are
Speaker 1: kind of funny, um and some of them you would
Speaker 1: absolutely expect. Now, I know, a lot of cars aren't
Speaker 1: built for speed, and that's for the reason that they're
Speaker 1: on this list. They're built for practicality. So a couple
Speaker 1: of the cars here that are on this list, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just mention one right now. It's not the slowest,
Speaker 1: but the Tata Nano is one of the cars that
Speaker 1: we've kind of made fun of in the past a
Speaker 1: little bit on car stuff, but the car does have
Speaker 1: its place in the world. There's a there's a purpose
Speaker 1: for the Tata Nano, and the purpose was that it
Speaker 1: was it was a vehicle that was at a very
Speaker 1: very low price point. I think brand new vehicle was
Speaker 1: something like you know, three thousand U S dollars whatever
Speaker 1: that translates to UM in India. I can't remember exactly
Speaker 1: the price point there, but it's a vehicle that was
Speaker 1: created for people that normally would be driving or riding
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle or a moped to work and to
Speaker 1: school and around, you know, just around the city, and
Speaker 1: it's very dangerous. Have you ever seen any of the
Speaker 1: these uh intersections that are just chaotic and crowded, and
Speaker 1: you know, you see three, four, sometimes five people on
Speaker 1: a motorcycle and any know, I'm laughing a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's it's funny, it's humorous, but it's also exceedingly dangerous,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are injured or killed on
Speaker 1: these every year. And this gets them into a vehicle
Speaker 1: that you know, I don't know if any of them
Speaker 1: have air conditioning or anything like that, I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but it gets them into a vehicle that has some
Speaker 1: type of structure around them. There's a there's there's something
Speaker 1: there to protect them in the event that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a collision. And if you do look at some
Speaker 1: of these, you know, these crowded intersections UM and some
Speaker 1: of these UH these developing nations, you'll find that, you know,
Speaker 1: the traffic control system, if there is one even at all,
Speaker 1: is definitely not what we have here in the United States,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's exceedingly poor and and there's a
Speaker 1: lot lot of collissions that happened and it's it's very,
Speaker 1: very dangerous situations. So the Tata Nano is a perfect
Speaker 1: example of of you know, a vehicle that is on
Speaker 1: this list not for speed necessarily, but because you know,
Speaker 1: it was it had a purpose in mind. It was
Speaker 1: built for a purpose. And some of the other cars
Speaker 1: in this list are classics. They're they're older vehicles that
Speaker 1: were just simply commuter cars. There were city cars again,
Speaker 1: you know, one step above many or micro cars even
Speaker 1: or even you know, maybe that's what they were. Many cars.
Speaker 1: Really they weren't built for performance and or for getting
Speaker 1: up to top speed. And sometimes sixty is the top
Speaker 1: speed of these cars. That's another issue with some of them.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the Tata Nano the top speed
Speaker 1: is sixty two miles per hour. That's the very maximum
Speaker 1: on them. In fact, the number one vehicle on the list,
Speaker 1: that is the maximum speed. So I can understand why
Speaker 1: it takes along to get there. I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: through the whole list, but we'll start down at number ten,
Speaker 1: which is the night Fiat eight fifty in Romatic, which
Speaker 1: goes zero to sixty and twenty five point four seconds. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a long long time. If you were to start
Speaker 1: a stop watch, you would realize just how long that
Speaker 1: is to you know, to get out into traffic, Try
Speaker 1: to accelerate, try to get up to speed with what
Speaker 1: you know, the type of speed of traffic that we
Speaker 1: see typically here in the modern day. Number nine on
Speaker 1: the list is the fourteen Tata Nano Twist x T,
Speaker 1: which which goes zero to sixty and twenty seven seconds. Um.
Speaker 1: Then there's a couple more a couple more Tatas here
Speaker 1: on the list, and then the nineteen fifty Triumph Mayflower
Speaker 1: is another one that's on the list twenty seven point
Speaker 1: nine seconds. So we're creeping up a little bit here,
Speaker 1: but only up by one second as we get up
Speaker 1: to the midpoint on the list, as the two thousand
Speaker 1: nine Tata Nano, which goes zero to sixty and twenty
Speaker 1: nine point four seconds. And then we go back to
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four for a Triumph of a model of
Speaker 1: the Triumph called the Renown, and the Renown is pretty slow.
Speaker 1: It's at at twenty nine point five seconds, but that
Speaker 1: is not the slowest vehicle, and they do jump up
Speaker 1: incrementally here, just very very small amounts. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty nine Austin Mini Cooper eight fifty m
Speaker 1: K which goes zero to sixty and twenty nine point
Speaker 1: six seconds. Then another triumpher noun model again twenty nine
Speaker 1: point nine seconds. Another Triumph again, So the Triumph is
Speaker 1: represented on this list many many times, as is Tata.
Speaker 1: This is the Herald model, the Triumph Herald from nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: It's editions so less than a less than a leader
Speaker 1: in this car, it's a little coupe model UM twenty
Speaker 1: nine point nine seconds. But the number one vehicle on
Speaker 1: this list, the slowest zero to sixty time according to
Speaker 1: zero to sixty times dot com, is a car called
Speaker 1: the Mia Electric Car. Now. It's an all electric vehicle.
Speaker 1: It's a French made vehicle does zero to sixty and
Speaker 1: exactly thirty seconds. Now, I have the MEA pulled up
Speaker 1: here on a website and I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 1: It was produced between June of two thousand eleven and
Speaker 1: December of two thousand thirteen, and it was built in France.
Speaker 1: It's a three door hatchback and there was also a
Speaker 1: van edition of this vehicle. And it's not a car
Speaker 1: that was sold here in the United States. It was
Speaker 1: a European market vehicle, and of course it's just a
Speaker 1: commuter car. The top speed on this one is and
Speaker 1: one hundred kilometers per hour, which is equivalent to sixty
Speaker 1: two miles per hour. So that is the maximum speed
Speaker 1: on this vehicle. It had a small battery is I
Speaker 1: believe that, you know, the equivalent horsepower in this thing
Speaker 1: was something like I want to I'm gonna ballpark this.
Speaker 1: I think it was like around twelve horse power or
Speaker 1: something like that. It's a very very low, low horsepower
Speaker 1: vehicle to begin with. And of course horsepower is not
Speaker 1: all that matters in this We're talking about torque and
Speaker 1: all kinds of other things, and electric cars typically have
Speaker 1: a lot of torque, which is surprising. But you know,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe this one just had such a small
Speaker 1: electric motor that it was unable to climb up to
Speaker 1: that that maximum speed very quickly, as we see in
Speaker 1: in some of the other higher performing electric vehicles that
Speaker 1: we do see today, because there are several that are
Speaker 1: that are you know, decent performers. Now it wasn't always
Speaker 1: the case, but there are some now. But again, the
Speaker 1: Mida Electric, I think they gave the two thousand twelve
Speaker 1: model the lowest rating. You know, I think I have
Speaker 1: just about no more really to say about zero to
Speaker 1: sixty times at this point. And uh, you know, if
Speaker 1: you find zero to sixties still am a measurement that
Speaker 1: you want to go buy for buying your vehicle, you know,
Speaker 1: please do. If you find that still interesting, please do.
Speaker 1: And I still do look at it as kind of
Speaker 1: a standard, and it's just one of those equal playing
Speaker 1: fields that everybody can kind of look at and say like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can I can see where one car relates to
Speaker 1: another one or how it compares on again, an even
Speaker 1: playing field. Somewhat, Um, maybe that even playing field isn't
Speaker 1: quite as even as as we're thinking when I when
Speaker 1: I tell you what I'm gonna tell you next, because
Speaker 1: there is a new article that came out just recently
Speaker 1: from Car and Driver, and there is um gosh, I
Speaker 1: don't know the best way to put this. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: a there's a new king in town and it is
Speaker 1: the Ford Mustang Shelby GT. Five hundred, and this one
Speaker 1: goes by a different measurement, and it's a measurement that
Speaker 1: we don't hear an awful lot about, but it is
Speaker 1: out there, and it's something that manufacturers used for selling vehicles.
Speaker 1: It's a marketing tool, really, and uh it is impressive.
Speaker 1: I mean it is and until you maybe parse this
Speaker 1: out and figure out exactly what we're talking about here.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about a standing start up to one
Speaker 1: hundred miles per hour and then back to us standing
Speaker 1: stop again. And there's a little bit of trickery that
Speaker 1: goes on here. And uh, I want to tell you
Speaker 1: that the Mustang Shelby GT five currently holds this record,
Speaker 1: and Ford claims the number is ten point six seconds,
Speaker 1: So zero one d to zero in ten points six seconds,
Speaker 1: which is really really fast. I mean that's a that's
Speaker 1: a quick quick speed. We were talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: cars that could barely muster up to sixty in that time,
Speaker 1: and to climb from sixty to one hundred and then
Speaker 1: back to zero again that takes an awful lot more
Speaker 1: time in a lot of cases. And if they can
Speaker 1: even do it, really, this car goes on sale this
Speaker 1: fall and it will begin somewhere around seventy four dollars,
Speaker 1: So there's a seventy four m s r P on
Speaker 1: this vehicle. And the thing is you have to look
Speaker 1: at this number and again break it down into what
Speaker 1: it really means. This has been done by several manufacturers before.
Speaker 1: And here's how this this all works out. And I
Speaker 1: didn't know this until I read this article. I thought
Speaker 1: that they were doing a a true you know, standing
Speaker 1: start accelerate up to hundred and then back down to zero.
Speaker 1: That's not the way that this all plays out. The
Speaker 1: way these magazines kind of put these numbers together is
Speaker 1: a little bit deceptive, but they're accurate in a way.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you how this all happens. What they
Speaker 1: do is they take a car from zero to one
Speaker 1: hundred and they measure that speed. So let's say that
Speaker 1: a car can go from zero to one hundred in
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Camaro S S one ll
Speaker 1: E as an example here. Let's say it goes from
Speaker 1: zero to one hundred and nine point one seconds. So
Speaker 1: they get that speed, and that's easy to achieve, you know,
Speaker 1: you just hammer the accelerator and you get to nine
Speaker 1: point one second, sets zero one. Then they take another
Speaker 1: separate test where they're already going one hundred miles per hour,
Speaker 1: and then they break as hard as they can without
Speaker 1: lock up. And for this car this Camaro S s
Speaker 1: L E and one L E that I'm talking about
Speaker 1: one hundred to zero the breaking speed in in time,
Speaker 1: I guess I should say the time is three point
Speaker 1: eight seconds. So they add together the nine point one
Speaker 1: seconds and the three point eight seconds, and then they
Speaker 1: get the estimated zero to one hundred zero speed of
Speaker 1: twelve point nine seconds. So I think, I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: can understand how this is all working out right, It's
Speaker 1: not it's not zero to one D zero, it's it's
Speaker 1: more like zero to one hundred. And then we'll start
Speaker 1: a new test one D zero and then add the
Speaker 1: two numbers together and that's what we get. And that's
Speaker 1: how they measure all these and uh, that is something
Speaker 1: that I just I had no idea that that's the
Speaker 1: way they were doing. And I think there have been
Speaker 1: cars in the past that have done this. Now, Carol
Speaker 1: Shelby did it back in nive in the Shelby Cover
Speaker 1: and you might be surprised to learn that the Cover
Speaker 1: seven had a speed This is still quick at fourteen
Speaker 1: point five seconds. But when you consider that the Ford
Speaker 1: Mustang Shelby GT. Five hundred, the current vehicle that's gonna
Speaker 1: be on sale this fall does it in ten points
Speaker 1: six seconds. Uh, four teen point five sounds relatively slow.
Speaker 1: I mean when you're talking about, you know, vehicles in
Speaker 1: in this type of performance range. Other cars that do
Speaker 1: it quickly are the Ford Mustang G T which has
Speaker 1: the Performance Pack Level two. I don't know exactly what
Speaker 1: that means, h third teen point two seconds. And then
Speaker 1: of course there's the the Mustang Shelby GT three fifty
Speaker 1: which does it and around twelve point six seconds. Other
Speaker 1: cars that you know have done this. There there are
Speaker 1: other vehicles, of course, you know, the corvettes always in
Speaker 1: there somewhere. Of course, manufacturers do kind of play around
Speaker 1: with these a little bit, as you can see, and
Speaker 1: you know, they give you the best numbers. Obviously, of
Speaker 1: course they want to turn in the best numbers, as
Speaker 1: do you know some of the magazines that put out
Speaker 1: these numbers that the testing is just a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a little bit deceptive if you look at it
Speaker 1: that way. And again I had no idea. So what
Speaker 1: they're doing is they're extrapolating now how quickly the the Mustang,
Speaker 1: the current Mustang we're talking about, the the Mustang Shelby GT. Five.
Speaker 1: They're extrapolating that that one will be able to accelerate
Speaker 1: in six points seven seconds. And that's based on what
Speaker 1: they assume the breaking is going to be, and they
Speaker 1: assume that it's going to be somewhere around three point
Speaker 1: eight seconds because in this group, you know, in this
Speaker 1: this this type of vehicle that we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the heavy end of this group, they're estimating that one
Speaker 1: hundred zero times about I guess about three point nine seconds.
Speaker 1: Then they subtract, you know, from the the ten points
Speaker 1: six seconds, and you know, they get the number that
Speaker 1: they think it's going to be. So and six point
Speaker 1: seven seconds zero to one hundred is what they're estimating
Speaker 1: to be the zero to one hundred times for this vehicle.
Speaker 1: So again you look into this whole thing because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting ways that manufacturers play around with
Speaker 1: the numbers and and make it kind of work for them.
Speaker 1: And this is nothing new. Manufacturers has done this for
Speaker 1: a long long time. Uh kind of played around with
Speaker 1: the stuff and and kind of uh slant the test
Speaker 1: to kind of go the way they want to, or
Speaker 1: you know, gear the car so that it exceeds um
Speaker 1: you know, certain parameters that they wanted to so they
Speaker 1: can then have these bragging rights, you know, zero to
Speaker 1: one hundred or zero to sixty or whatever it happens
Speaker 1: to be. But definitely dig into that stuff if if
Speaker 1: that type of thing is important to you, and you
Speaker 1: can go to Car and Driver dot com or you know,
Speaker 1: zero to sixty times dot com or any of those
Speaker 1: sites that I've talked about. Digital Trends had some articles
Speaker 1: on this. You can find zero sixty times zero one
Speaker 1: hundred times for just about every vehicle out there. Really,
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to do. And you know, honestly, um,
Speaker 1: I don't think I have a whole lot more to
Speaker 1: say about this. Again, I hope you find it just
Speaker 1: kind of a good starting point for your research and
Speaker 1: you're you're delving into exactly, you know, what's important to
Speaker 1: you when you're buying a new vehicle as far as
Speaker 1: acceleration goes. And if you want to find us on Twitter,
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