WEBVTT - Quick Cars Under $30,000 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.800 Hello, and welcome to the Fast Track. I'm your host, 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.360 Scott Benjamin, and you know, it's a fairly new show. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.160 We're we're still kind of getting our our sea legs here, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.799 trying to uh figure out exactly what we're doing with 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.840 this program, but we do have a focus, and the 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.639 focus is we're going to be concentrated on things that 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.680 are about quick cars, about fast cars, about people to 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.800 go fast, about um, anything really that goes fast. And 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.800 you know what's funny is I sometimes like to take 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.840 it the other direction. Maybe we'll talk about some things 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.080 that go slow and and maybe we'll do that at 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:39.559 some point today because it's kind of a nice reversal 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.440 to you know, kind of see like what the opposite 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.760 end of the spectrum is. Like we're gonna talk about 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.400 new cars and some of the quickest new cars that 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.440 you can buy, and the price range that we're gonna 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.199 be talking about is less than thirty thousand dollars. Now, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.040 the Kelly Blue Book average price for a new car 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.800 in nine is around thirty seven thousand, two eighty five 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.760 dollars this year, So me nineteen, I think I believe 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.160 that they go with a sedan price, you know, just 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.840 kind of the middle of the road price there. The 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.200 average new price for a car is thirty seven thousand, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.800 two eighty five dollars. That's here in the United States. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.000 That seemed to creep up every year by about three 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.039 or four percent something like that. Sometimes this is a 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.920 little as two, but usually it's around three percent. So 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.040 you can count on adding three percent to that for 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.160 twenty and I'm sure that will continue to climb as 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.360 we get later and later here. But I want to 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.120 talk about cars that are less than thirty thousand dollars 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.959 to begin with. And I think before we even start 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.640 that one thing that I wanted to mention here, and 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.880 this is just kind of like an off topic thing 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.119 that I that I thought was interesting. Um. I made 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.960 a road trip last weekend. I went to Indiana and 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.480 I went to northern Indiana for a family reunion. And 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.720 there were a good number of people there. They're probably 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.520 eighty people that showed up in this park there and 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.480 this is in Wabash, Indiana. And got a lot of 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.400 family there, obviously, and you know, some distant relatives that 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.960 I hadn't seen for a long time, and one of 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.640 them was my cousin. And I have seen him recently, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.760 and I know he was a car stuff listener when 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.080 I had the other show. But he's a younger cousin 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.960 of mine first cousin, and I do know that he 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.000 rides motorcycles. So when I saw him there at the reunion, 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.360 I decided I had talked to him a little bit 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.919 about that, and he said that he had recently made 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.520 what was, for him, I think, the longest trip that 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.120 he ever made on his motorcycle, and it was up 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:25.280 into the southern part of Michigan and he went to 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.920 I think it was like an RC track and outdoor 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:31.840 RC track for radio controlled vehicles. That was, you know, 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.359 pretty intense. I think it was a pretty cool thing. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.519 He said that, you know, some people are spending thousands 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.720 of dollars, you know, four or five, six thousand dollars 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.640 on these on these rigs for um off road RC 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.000 vehicles and racing them in some kind of I don't 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.160 know if as a championship or whatever. It's just a 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.960 you know, weekend hobby or and something like that. Anyway, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.920 he made the trip up there, and uh, I was 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.239 asking him about helmet laws because I had when I 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.519 as soon as I crossed into Indiana, I realized that 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.640 they did not have the same helmet laws as we 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.120 have here in Georgia or even you know, in Kentucky 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.800 or Tennessee. It's it's a little different. In Indiana. Anybody 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.520 that is under the age of eighteen is required to 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.200 wear a helmet. Anybody over the age of eighteen, it's optional. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.440 You don't have to. And I saw this many many 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.120 times on the road as I was driving there, because 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.600 it's it's northern Indiana really, so a lot of time 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.120 spent in Indiana, and I was noticing that. You know. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.160 So there's some people on the highway going ninety miles 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.200 an hour, you know, a husband, wife on a on 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.440 a great big Harley Davidson motorcycle, both of them not 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.639 wearing helmets. And it's just it's a little bit startling 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.720 when you see it. I mean, it's up to them, 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.200 it's their own you know, right to you know, wear them, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.600 are not wear them. It doesn't matter to me. I mean, 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.760 it's up to them. But it is startling to see it, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.680 you know, especially when they're going that type of speed 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.480 on the highway. It's just it seems wrong. I don't know, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.839 I don't know how better to put that again, it's 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.760 it's everybody's personal decision. I agree with that. That's fine. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:51.840 But I asked him if he rides a you know, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.600 wears a helmet when he rides, and he says that 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.600 he always does. And one thing that he mentioned almost immediately, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.560 and this is this is where this whole story is going. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.440 I guess, is that something that you don't normally think of, 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.520 and this is one very good reason to wear a helmet. Um. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.680 He was talking about how it was raining on the 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.720 way there, and you know, the rain kind of hurts 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.440 your skins. As you're right. I don't know if you've 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.400 ever been on a roller coaster maybe or maybe you 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.760 are a motorcycle rider, uh, going you know, sixty seventy 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.000 miles an hour, rain really hurts when it hits you 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.000 going sixty or seventy miles an hour. The same thing 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.480 with a roller coaster. It's that same feeling. He said 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.240 he encountered some rain on that trip, but he said that, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.839 you know, he has always wore a helmet when he rides. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.920 And one really good lesson that he got early on 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.200 was when he was fortunately wearing a helmet. And this 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.080 is one of those things that is just one of 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.760 those completely unexpected things that you would never ever consider happening. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.280 But he was out for an evening ride and he 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.159 was somewhere in the Indiana countryside there going I don't know, 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.799 a fifty plus miles an hour, whatever it was, whatever 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.080 the speed was. A bat hit him in the head. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.000 A bat. So he's flying, he's driving around a corner. Um, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.520 you know, bat comes out of nowhere. I mean, you 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.240 don't even have time to really to react, you don't 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.560 have time to duck or anything. Bat strikes him in 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.760 the in the face shield and of course the bats destroyed. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.240 But there's just this gross stuff all over his his 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.480 helmet and you know, on his shoulder. And he said 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.160 it was really kind of sickening, you know, the result 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.440 of it. But he was imagining what would happen if 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.960 he wasn't wearing that helmet when when he struck this thing. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.360 I mean, it would have could cast some damage, It 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.160 could have cost some you know, damage to his eye, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.920 It could have you know, broken his jar or whatever. Um. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.360 I've been in another vehicle. I was in a Cadillac 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.839 one time that hit a bat, you know, in the 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.960 same place in Indiana when we were out for an 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.680 evening drive. My grandfather was driving, and it struck the 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.159 windshield when I was in the front seat, and it 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.080 was it was pretty scary. It's very abrupt and and 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.039 it happens quickly. But um, I don't think i'd ever 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.640 heard of a motorcycle rider ever talking about, you know, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.479 hitting a bat in the evening. I thought it was 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.880 really interesting and uh, kind of unusual. It's one of 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.560 those things again that you just don't think about it, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.040 and it's probably a good reason to wear that helmet 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.960 with a face shield. I do want to say, gosh, man, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.680 it seems like we're never gonna get into this topic. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.240 But there's a there's a few things that I want 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.160 to say. We're not talking about the fastest cars. We're 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.240 talking about the quickest cars that you know, the zero 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.120 to sixties speeds and so so quick doesn't necessarily translate 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.640 to fast, and that's not I just don't think they're 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.440 the same thing. Uh. Fast is where you're typically talking 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.479 about something that's you know, overall, you know, high speed 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.880 at top speed, that's uh, that's greater than a typical 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.760 road car. We're not talking about cars like that. We're 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.760 talking about cars that can quickly get from zero to 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.080 sixty miles per hour, and there's about fifteen or sixteen 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.200 on this list, and I'm gonna go through these relatively quickly, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.520 and uh, and then we're gonna take this conversation in 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.000 a different direction because I have found um a lot 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.080 of information about the zero to sixty tests that I 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.839 think you would be or you would find interesting rather 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:49.520 and even another test that is possibly even more meaningless. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.760 And believe it or not that maybe we'll give just 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.520 a little bit away here, but uh, let's begin here now. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.159 I want to say that these cars start at six 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.760 point three seconds, which is not add for zero to 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.520 sixty speed. The six point three seconds is quick. And 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.280 if you if you think back, if you're old enough 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:09.360 to remember, back into the nineteen eighties, let's say, mid 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.680 nineteen eighties, anything that was going in uh, you know, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.680 sixty miles per hour in about eight seconds was considered 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.640 a quick car. That was a quick acceleration. And now 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.400 we're getting into you know, six seconds below six seconds, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.000 and there of course there's a lot of cars that 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.200 will go faster than that, and we'll we'll talk about 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.120 those as well. You know, the fastest cars, but again 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.960 under thirty thousand dollars is the is the price point 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.560 that we're talking about here. And this all begins with 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.680 the Accura I l X, which will go zero to 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.160 sixty and six point three seconds. Now, that is a 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.800 two one horse power four cylinder engine. The price here 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.240 is about twenty six thousand eight, So, um, we're talking 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.720 about a relatively quick car for you know, about twenty 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:55.000 seven thousand dollars. Um it has an eight speed, dual 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.400 clutch automatic transmission, and um, I guess just a bargain 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.480 small sports it in if you want to look at 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:02.920 it that way. Now, I'm not selling in any of 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.280 these cars, so I understand that I'm not trying to 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.600 talk anyone up over the other one. But the speeds 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.080 are gonna go faster and faster as we talk here. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.680 And a couple of these are tied, you know, from 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.880 maybe the to the top spot here, you know, like 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:17.720 the first three I think are in the six point 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:22.480 three second range, which includes the Fiat one Spider, which 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.480 also comes in at six point three seconds. That one 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.440 is priced exactly the same twenty thousand six. Oh, it's 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:33.520 two hundars less. It's six five dollars, so five and 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.280 essentially this is like um, I mean, if you want 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.240 to look at it simply, this is essentially like the 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.040 Masda m X five Miata. I mean, it's very very 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.040 closely related to that car. UM. It has a six 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.400 speed manual transmission that's the standard for the Fiat. And 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.200 again six point three seconds, pretty quick. Um. Another one 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.559 that's quick is the Honest Civic s I coupe, which 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.000 is at six point three seconds. Again two and five horsepower, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.480 four cylinder engine. The base prices a little bit lower here, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.960 it's twenty two and twenty dollars. Now, you know, one 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.760 one quick thing here as we as we go through, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:09.640 you're gonna find that a lot of these cars have 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.720 automatic transmissions. And a lot of people will say, well, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.240 you know, why why even talk about those cars? Why 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.600 don't just talk about the manual transmissions are typically faster. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.920 That's not necessarily the case anymore. We're finding that some 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.720 of these automatic transmissions are performing so well, they shift 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.600 so well that they are able to shift better than 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.280 somebody could shift a manual transmission. And that wasn't always 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.480 a case in the past. But you'll find that a 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.439 lot of these cars on this list do have a 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.559 an automatic transmission that that performs exceedingly well or even 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.679 better than um a human could shift, and I I 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.160 ten years ago, I wouldn't have said anything like that. Usually, 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.480 you know, we're talking or typically we were talking about 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.560 the manual transmissions and how that was the option to 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.720 get because you could shift just a little bit faster. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.839 But that's not the case anymore. Moving on to number 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.280 four or sixteen, we're talking about the Dodge Challenger, which 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.600 is a V six powered car, and this it's zero 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.520 sixteen about three point I'm sorry three seconds now six 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.200 point two seconds, six point two seconds, and that's the 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.080 base price of around twenty nine and three forty. This 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.480 one does jump up about a hundred horse power from 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.640 the previous entry, so it's about three hundred and five 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.440 horse power versus the two and five we just talked 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.679 about with the Honda Civic. Again, this one is paired 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.600 to an eight speed automatic transmission, so again that's another 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.520 another automatic transmission as uh well, the next one is 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.960 not as a matter of fact, it's the Toyota eighty 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.720 six or the suber U b r Z, which also 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.760 comes in at six point two seconds and This goes 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.439 back down to two h five horse power. This has 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.560 a flat four engine with two hundred five horse power 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.559 and a standard six speed manual transmission. That's what we're 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.640 talking about. For the six point two seconds. The base 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.520 price is a little bit lower than the previous entry 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:55.040 at eighty or six eighty for the Subaru. And then 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.360 we go on to another V six powered car. We're 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.800 talking about the number six of sixteen, which is the 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.160 heavy Impala, and that comes in at six point one seconds. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.880 Again another three five horsepower V six engine. Um, you know, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.920 let's let's just quickly buzz through these because I do 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.400 want to get to some more interesting things I think 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.080 anyways in this podcast. Um, and that is kind of 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.120 the reasoning behind some of the zero to sixty tests 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.120 that we see. And uh, and what they mean really 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.000 are they? Are they meaningful to us in in a 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.960 in a real way. Um, there's the Mini Cooper S 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.280 hard top at six point one seconds. There's the Honda 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.840 KNA turbo at six seconds, so and even six seconds 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.880 for the for a Honda. Another Hondai which comes in 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.640 at six seconds is the Veloctri turbo. Then the Volkswagen 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.760 g t I at five point eight seconds, So we're 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.040 getting into the five second range here, and it's only 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.680 going to drop from this point. Uh, there's the Mazda 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.480 m X five Miata, which is five point seven seconds 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.559 zero to sixty. Get this is this is a strange one. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.840 Buick Regal sport Back comes in at five point six seconds. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.720 Now I wouldn't have expected a Buick to be on 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.720 this list, but it is. Um This one has a 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.600 two fifty horsepower turbo charge two lead four cylinder with 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.760 a nine speed automatic transmission. Now I just I never 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.040 would have guessed abutle could be on the on the list, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.520 especially this high. At five point six seconds, that's a 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.520 that's pretty quick, and it comes in at tho so 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.800 less than twenty six thousand dollars. The next one I 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.480 would expect to be on this list, and that is 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.839 the Subaru w r X, and that comes in at 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.880 five point five seconds. But that's still not the fastest 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:31.800 one because we are talking about, uh, the Chevy Camaro 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.400 U the two leader turbo, which comes in at five 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.079 point one seconds. And then there's the Ford Mustang Eco 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.080 Boost which also comes in at five point one seconds. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.840 So you can still get a car that will go 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.000 zero to sixty in five seconds for under thirty thousand dollars. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.520 And I think that's a that's a pretty good option 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.320 for a lot of people if they're not willing to 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.360 go as high as you know, what's the average price? 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.680 Not thirty seven two five is what I said. Um, 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.040 so that is I don't know. I sets a positive 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.199 note and you know something that uh, um, if you're 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:04.880 out in new car shopping, you might want to check 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.880 that out if zero to sixty is something that's important 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.800 to you. And it turns out that zero to sixty, 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.120 I don't know. Maybe it's something that's in your head. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.320 Maybe it's something you know I thought. I always thought 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.760 that zero to sixty was an important measurement as well. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.760 And uh and there's probably a good reason behind that 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.200 or why I thought that it was important. And we 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.480 will talk about that in just a moment after we 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:32.840 come back from a word from our sponsor. And we're 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.760 back and you're listening to the Fast Track, and I'm 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.440 your host, Scott Benjamin, and we were just talking about 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.200 a kind of a long list, I guess, of the 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.360 quickest cars that you can buy for less than thirty 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.200 thousand dollars and and I had about sixteen cars fifteen 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.440 or sixteen cars there on that list, and I know 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.240 that was a little bit overwhelming, and I hopefully we 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.640 can get past this and talk about something that maybe 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.920 is a little bit more meaningful to each one of us, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.080 or maybe even less meaningful to each one of us. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.120 I don't know. I mean, that's kind of the conversation 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.480 that goes along with this, because I had always looked 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.320 at zero to sixty is as one of those things 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.720 where you know, personally, when I'm when I'm buying a car, 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.320 I want something that's kind of quick. I want something 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.400 that feels good when I accelerate off the line or 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.520 you know, from a standing start, you know, maybe to 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.240 get onto the highway or something like that. And I 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.680 think that maybe my thinking was a little bit flawed 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.680 now in the in the way that um I was 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.720 I was reading into how important a zero to sixty 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.600 time is for a vehicle, and it seems like there's 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.680 a lot of articles out there about how zero to 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.000 sixty doesn't necessarily mean as much as you might think 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.840 it does in daily driving or or you know, um, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.040 the numbers are something that that manufacturers like to brag about. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.520 And they all like to say that, you know, we 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.120 have the quickest car from zero to sixty and U 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.920 or um. They might even have a different measurement, as 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.360 we'll talk about here in just a minute. There's one 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.080 that's maybe even less meaningful, if you can, if you 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.560 want to put it that way. I mean, I hate 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:50.960 to say it that way because you know, all this 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.480 stuff means something to somebody, but you know, you and 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.280 I on on a daily basis, it doesn't necessarily mean 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.440 a whole lot. It's it's really cool for the manufacturers 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.760 to be able to brag about this stuff, uh, you know, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.320 for for bragging rights. But um, it doesn't necessarily play 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.000 out in the real world the way that we think 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.520 it will, you know, the way it does on paper. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.760 There's a there's a way to look at this, I guess. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.920 And I've asked my wife. I've asked my daughter. I've 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.400 asked some people around the office here. I've asked, you know, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.800 some of my relatives. I've asked some friends that I have. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.000 You know that I correspond with, what do you think 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.160 about zero to sixty time? Is it important to you 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:27.119 when you buy a vehicle and overwhelmingly so far. Everybody, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.080 every single one is really said it doesn't really come 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.800 into their their thought process when they're buying a car. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.160 I think that there's you know, something that's like that. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.240 You know, when you're in the car and you're driving it, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.880 you want it to be quick, you want it to 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.480 feel good. I don't think you necessarily look at that 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.640 car and say, you know, I'm I'm interested in this 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.720 car because it gets uh, it goes zero to sixty 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.840 and five point one seconds versus five point eight seconds 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.880 in the real world. The truth is, you're not going 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.000 to use that. And I didn't really believe that until 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.480 I read several articles about this, and it's going back, 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.040 you know, a long time. It's not it's not something 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.920 brand new that people are looking at and saying exactly why. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.000 It doesn't necessarily matter. And the reality, I guess is 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.800 that you know, you don't actually experience driving a vehicle 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.240 zero sixty. It's kind of like a mismeasurement of a 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.400 car's performance because it's there's very rarely a time when 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.720 you're actually going zero to sixty from from a stoplight. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.600 You're typically not doing that because the speeds on that 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.640 road if you're if you're unless you're breaking the law 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.920 of course, and I think a lot of people do. Uh, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:26.840 you know, as far as like and trying to out 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.000 accelerate the person next to you, You're not necessarily going 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.480 to take it up to sixty or above immediately off 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.600 the stop light, unless you are again trying to race 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.760 against somebody next to you, or just you know, trying 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.000 to have a little bit of fun. I guess when 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.640 no one's around. Um, if you're going on too, if 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.000 you're on an on ramp, um, maybe, but you're already 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.640 kind of like at a rolling, rolling start, unless you're 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.280 at a metered on ramp, which we have a lot 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.040 of here in Atlanta, and that typically means anyway that 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.720 you are accelerating into heavy traffic, and that's something different. 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.360 So you're not necessarily going to take it all the 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.120 way up to sixty again. UM, I do admit that, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:00.560 you know, I have a lot of fun kind of 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.120 blasting onto a highway if there's you know, open road 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.520 in front of me. The reality is, though you know 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.159 you're already starting at a rolling start, you're starting at 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.320 you know, ten, fifteen, maybe even twenty miles an hour 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:11.800 as you come around the corner to get onto the 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.240 on ramp and then and then begin your acceleration. So 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.240 that's a little bit different. And you know, some of 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.880 the best cars that I've had, some of the manual transmissions. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.200 My favorite gear is sometimes you know, second or third 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.920 gear in that car. It's not necessarily first gear. And 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.479 a lot of these cars that we're going to talk 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.280 about here have kind of cheated the system in order 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.600 to get to zero sixty by gearing. And I say cheated, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.200 I mean these are manufacturers that are doing this, but um, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.640 they have geared the cars so that you know, sixty 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.399 is achieved in first gear for some of the bigger 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.840 V eight engine cars. When you do that, you're you 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.040 kind of take out the human equation out of the 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.520 whole thing. It's just a matter of mashing down the accelerator, 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.200 you know, dumping the clutch, going as fast as you can, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.679 and you get up to sixty it and no time practically, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.080 but that takes out, you know, the point where you 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.159 have to shift, and that takes out a little bit 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.359 of the skill out of the whole thing. And uh again, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.399 I think i've or you know, the viper does that. 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.080 I think the one of the Mustangs does that maybe Corvette, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.879 I'm not exactly sure. I can't remember the list of 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.240 manufacturers that have done that where you can achieve sixty 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.800 in first gear and again just kind of take some 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.280 of the some of the work out of it for 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.919 for the human unless you have to shift. You know, 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.119 there's really not a whole lot of skill involved in 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.120 going sixty and it happens really really quick. UM. But honestly, 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.919 like the thing is, zero to sixty is kind of 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:31.080 a misleading measurement of performance. And that's because you know, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:32.680 most of it, like I said, most of the real 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.720 world driving that we're talking about, you know, you're either 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.439 starting with a rolling start or you know, maybe a 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.600 better view of this, a better a better look at 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.199 you know, the maybe the more usable speed would be 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.480 from like you know, the thirty or even forty to sixty. UM. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.240 A lot of people use that as a measurement of 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.600 performance of a vehicle. And and the reason behind that 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.160 is because that's when you're passing another car on the highway, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.639 or if you're exited in the the corner on a track, 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.120 or you know, even if you're exited in the corner, um, 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.879 you know, not city necessarily, maybe out in the country 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.480 or something, and you want to kind of get that 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.280 that that adrenaline rush as you go around the corner 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.560 and then and then accelerate out. Um really from like 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.359 you know, forty to sixty thirty to sixty thirty to 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.199 seventy what however you want to measure this. I mean, 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.880 there's a lot of different measurements there. That's really where 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.159 the power matters, and that's where you can feel the 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.800 acceleration of the car. You can feel, you know, the 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.640 the strength of the car, the speed, the weight, the traction, 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.320 all that matters more so, um, you know, as far 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.720 as the gearing goes, UM, you know, the gearing tends 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.239 to be a little bit better in that range. It's 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.280 not necessarily you know, the uh the real quick I'm 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:37.600 in first, but I have to shift into second almost immediately, 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.680 unlike some of those other cars we talked about, the 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.679 uh you know, the Viper or whatever. But they have 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.280 taken some of the sensation out of driving, if you 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:46.919 want to put it that way. And I think that 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.080 one of the cars that they mentioned here in UH 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:50.800 in one of the articles that I looked at, it 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.880 was it's called digital trends dot com and you can 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.399 look at something that they did here. They compared the 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.640 Nissan gt R and the Aston Martin v Advantage gt. Now, 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.520 both of these cars claimed to be entry level supercars 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.399 and they both cost around a hundred thousand dollars. So 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.280 I realize that these are expensive vehicles, but you know, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.439 because they are at that same price point and they 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:12.840 are considered kind of these entry level supercars, you can 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.240 compare them and uh, and maybe I don't know, judge 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.160 them based on the sensation that they give you when 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.360 you drive them. And on paper, it seems like there, 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.159 as it says here in the article, there should be 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.160 no comparison. The Nissan does zero to sixty and something 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.560 like three seconds flat and the the Aston Martin zero 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.560 to sixty speed is four point six seconds. So it 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.440 seems like the g t R would be the car 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.240 to drive, right, That would be the fun one to drive, 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.159 and the it's definitely faster, and um, it should be 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:41.800 should be the one that you choose, right based on 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.199 zero to sixty. So the idea here is that if 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.280 the zero to sixty times are are helpful, which they 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.239 should be. Here, the difference between the cars isn't just 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.040 a couple of tents of a second. It's it's actually 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.119 a pretty big gap there. I mean there's there's um 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.280 you know, between three seconds and four point six seconds. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.560 That's a that's a lot of distance between a lot 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.040 of time. Rather be when the zero to sixty when 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.680 it's reached. But but they do say this, And I've 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.240 never driven either one of these cars. I've seen both 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.240 of them on the road and and they're both very impressive, 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.439 but I guess when you're driving them, it's a lot different. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.399 The thing is, the Aston actually feels a lot faster, 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.199 and the reason is because the Nissan, I mean the 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.199 Nissan GT are that the the function of getting up 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.479 to sixty is so easy, it's achieved so quickly and 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.639 in first gear, that there's really nothing to it. As 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.679 I just mentioned before, it's just simply a matter of 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.919 you know, dumping a collection going sixty miles an hour. 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.240 Anybody can do it. All the all the sensation, all 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.639 the feel, all the engine sounds, all of that is 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.880 is relatively tame. And I understand that it's a it's 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.040 a brutal car, I get it, but tame compared to 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.040 the Aston. Martin so um, they say that, you know, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.640 the aston Martin acceleration is a little bit more exciting 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.399 because it's more visceral. You hear the engine noise, you 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.359 feel the vibration, you feel the steering wheel. Uh, you know, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.399 there's more feedback to the car, and that gives you 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.639 a better sensation of speed. Even though you're getting there 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.680 in four point six seconds, which is still lightning quick. 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.080 Really you're still feeling that car and and it feels faster. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.479 It's kind of if I had to compare this to anything, 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.680 I might even say that, Um, it's like when you're 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.600 in a go cart or even an open top car 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:15.879 and you feel like, you know, when you're low to 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:17.720 the ground, you've got the wind blowing in your hair, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.680 you can hear the noise, you can feel it. It's 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:21.760 it's kind of rough. Uh. You could be in a 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.080 go cart going thirty miles an hour and you think 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:25.919 you're going a hundred miles an hour. That's just a 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.879 sensation that you get. And that's it's kind of the 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.680 idea behind some of these cars we're talking about, and 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.920 and how they have you know, that that visceral feel, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.239 that sensation that you know they're going faster than they 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.920 really are. And um, I know, just as a side note, 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.000 I know my my my wife always thinks I'm going 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.560 way faster in my car than she's going in her car. 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.119 She's got a Jeep Jeep Wrangler, and it's a relatively 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.080 you know, tall vehicle, and uh, I don't know, it 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.480 just doesn't have the same sound and feel as my 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.119 car does, which is it's just a sedan. It's nothing special. 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.160 It's a it's a Volkswagon c C. And um, it's 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.240 just lower and it just has that since sation of 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.040 of a faster speed. So we'll look over and think, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.360 I'm going, you know, ninety miles an hour and I'm 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.719 going sixty miles an hour on the highway. It just 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:09.960 has a different feel when you're that much closer to 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:11.639 the pavement and you know, you don't have maybe that 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.320 commanding view that you have above. It's a little bit 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.960 maybe she feels a little bit less in control, uh 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:20.280 than when you have that that high view advantage point. 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:22.359 I do want to talk about a couple of cars 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.320 here that have, you know, some slower times and some 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.159 faster times. I guess that you know the best and 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.720 the and the worst cars for acceleration and we will 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.879 do that quickly and uh and I promise you we're 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.240 gonna get to this, uh, this other thing because there's 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.879 a new I guess you'd call it a new record 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.800 claimed by one of the manufacturers, and we do want 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:41.320 to get to that. But we'll do that after we 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:48.280 take a break for a word from our sponsor. And 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.480 we're back and you're listening to the Fast Track, and 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:52.720 I'm your host, Scott Benjamin, And just before the break, 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.159 we were talking about some of the best and worst 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.240 acceleration rates or speeds for cars in the in the world. 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:00.720 And you know, I want to start out with a 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:03.000 couple of cars here, the current production cars in the US, 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:04.840 and then we're gonna talk about some of the uh 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.159 the slowest cars in the world and some of the 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.280 slowest cars in the world. Has zero to sixty times UM. 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.960 If you're still paying attention to zero sixty times after 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:14.600 you know what we've just said here on this on 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.399 this podcast, you want to get the best vehicles that 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.080 are on the road right now in the US. You 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:20.680 want to look at a couple of cars that are 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.960 fairly expensive. There's the portion on eleven Carrera S, which 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:28.080 is around four point one seconds zero to sixty per hour, 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.280 and then the Corvette Stingray comes in next, the three 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.159 L T at four point three. There's a Jaguar, the 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.399 Camaro S S. There's the portion of seven eighteen Boxer, 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.879 which is the base vehicle, comes in at four point 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.640 four seconds. There's the Ford Mustang GT Premium, which comes 0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.400 in at four point nine seconds. Then there's a bunch 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:46.960 of others here on this list. We're not gonna list 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:48.560 all of them. You can find these lists if you 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.560 want to at Consumer reports dot org and they're listed 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.400 under the best and worst car acceleration. I'm gonna give 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.359 you possibly a better site to had to go to 0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.680 even than that one in just a because um there's 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.119 a site that is dedicated to nothing but zero to 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.119 sixty times if you want to go buy these numbers. 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:11.080 But on this list of best acceleration vehicles, we we 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.840 just kind of wrapped up with the Ford Mustang, and uh, 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.040 we'll mention here that there's also a Tesla, the Tesla 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:21.480 model excess on their Mercedes Benz, another Tesla BMW, couple 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.000 of them. Uh, there's a Nissan, there's a Maserati, of course, 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.680 Dodge Jaguar. There's a whole bunch here on this list. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.359 And then they list the slowest vehicles, and I'm going 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.680 to tell you that the slowest cars in the list, 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:36.680 these are the current US production vehicles slowest times, and 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.880 so that the slowest one on the list is by 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.080 far not the slowest one ever to be recorded zero 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.000 to sixty, and I'll get to that in just a moment, 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.040 But the current slowest production vehicle zero to sixty in 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.120 the U S is the MITSUBC Mirage E S, which 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.640 comes in at twelve point one second zero to sixty, 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.639 and uh the Chevrolet Spark one LT which comes in 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.080 at twelve seconds, then the Fiat five hundred Sport, which 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.360 is funny that they call it the Fiat Sport at 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.720 eleven point three seconds, and then the Toyota Prius, the 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.240 Toyota c HR, then the Honda Kona, the Buke Encore 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.800 Leather Edition, Ford Focus s E, which is the one 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.840 leader engine, and then the Hyundai Tucson. All of those 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.359 are right around eleven seconds, you know, somewhere around eleven 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.440 point one, eleven point two three, you know, et cetera. 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.760 Up to the Mitsubishi Mirage, which comes in again at 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.120 twelve point one seconds. Now, those are the current US 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.879 production vehicles. And you know, one one quick thing that 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:33.880 I don't know if I mentioned this, you know, we 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:37.200 we said that zero to sixty might not be something 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.240 that you necessarily pay a whole lot of attention to. 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.560 But I can tell you one case where it probably 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.600 does matter to you, and it's one that a lot 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.359 of people find. It's a bad position a lot of 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.159 people find themselves in. You pull out into traffic. You know, 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.240 you're you're exiting the shopping mall, or you're exiting you know, 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.920 the grocery store or whatever, and you kind of misjudge 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.200 the traffic that's approaching from the nearest stoplight. You pull 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:58.920 out and you realize, hey, that traffic is moving a 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:00.679 lot faster than I thought was going to try to 0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.760 accelerate and get you know, ahead of them or stay 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.760 ahead of them. Uh so you know, you know, you're 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.080 not making a burden of yourself there in the middle 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.320 of traffic, and you realize quickly that you know, everybody's overtaken. 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.280 You can't get that little car to go as fast 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.040 as you wanted it to go, or that big car 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.479 to go as fast as you wanted it to go. 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.399 And that's one situation I think where it pays to 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.200 have a car that accelerates kind of quick those situations 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.760 where you you need to for your own safety go 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.280 just a little bit faster or get up to speed quickly. 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.360 And uh and I found myself in that position many 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.639 many times. And uh, and that is kind of scary. 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.280 So maybe that's one thing that you do need to 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:35.960 consider when you're when you're thinking about a a quick 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:40.560 accelerating vehicle getting back to slow accelerating vehicles. And this 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.399 is I find this to be a funny list and 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.080 and this is the site that I want to tell 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.920 you about. The site is zero to sixty times dot com. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.879 That's zero to sixty times and sixty is six zero 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.240 times dot com. And they do have they have several 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.840 lists here. I mean, you can search cars by make 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.400 model ranges. You know, cars that are in the two 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.720 second range, cars that are in the five second range. 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.760 You can search classics, hatchbacks, whatever you want. You can 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.840 break this down just about any way. Really, you can 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.960 browse by anything, manufacturer whatever you like. Uh. They have 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.639 current and vehicles that were are out of production. And 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.400 that's where this list comes in because this is the 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.240 slowest cars in the world. Zero to sixty specs of 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:23.159 the slowest cars in the world. Some of these are 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.560 kind of funny, um and some of them you would 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.800 absolutely expect. Now, I know, a lot of cars aren't 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.080 built for speed, and that's for the reason that they're 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.080 on this list. They're built for practicality. So a couple 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:34.440 of the cars here that are on this list, and 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.800 I'm gonna just mention one right now. It's not the slowest, 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.560 but the Tata Nano is one of the cars that 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.240 we've kind of made fun of in the past a 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.959 little bit on car stuff, but the car does have 0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.000 its place in the world. There's a there's a purpose 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.760 for the Tata Nano, and the purpose was that it 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.560 was it was a vehicle that was at a very 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.840 very low price point. I think brand new vehicle was 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.600 something like you know, three thousand U S dollars whatever 0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.800 that translates to UM in India. I can't remember exactly 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.960 the price point there, but it's a vehicle that was 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.080 created for people that normally would be driving or riding 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.920 on a motorcycle or a moped to work and to 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.080 school and around, you know, just around the city, and 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.680 it's very dangerous. Have you ever seen any of the 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.000 these uh intersections that are just chaotic and crowded, and 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.400 you know, you see three, four, sometimes five people on 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.520 a motorcycle and any know, I'm laughing a little bit, 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:28.240 but it's it's funny, it's humorous, but it's also exceedingly dangerous, 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.360 and a lot of people are injured or killed on 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.560 these every year. And this gets them into a vehicle 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.920 that you know, I don't know if any of them 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.920 have air conditioning or anything like that, I'm not sure, 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.880 but it gets them into a vehicle that has some 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.440 type of structure around them. There's a there's there's something 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.520 there to protect them in the event that, you know, 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.280 there's a collision. And if you do look at some 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.880 of these, you know, these crowded intersections UM and some 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.520 of these UH these developing nations, you'll find that, you know, 0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.920 the traffic control system, if there is one even at all, 0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.200 is definitely not what we have here in the United States, 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.800 and it's it's it's exceedingly poor and and there's a 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:01.880 lot lot of collissions that happened and it's it's very, 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.080 very dangerous situations. So the Tata Nano is a perfect 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.800 example of of you know, a vehicle that is on 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.479 this list not for speed necessarily, but because you know, 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.240 it was it had a purpose in mind. It was 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.400 built for a purpose. And some of the other cars 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.200 in this list are classics. They're they're older vehicles that 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.080 were just simply commuter cars. There were city cars again, 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.200 you know, one step above many or micro cars even 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.080 or even you know, maybe that's what they were. Many cars. 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.880 Really they weren't built for performance and or for getting 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.680 up to top speed. And sometimes sixty is the top 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.160 speed of these cars. That's another issue with some of them. 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.320 You know, I think the Tata Nano the top speed 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.200 is sixty two miles per hour. That's the very maximum 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.720 on them. In fact, the number one vehicle on the list, 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.080 that is the maximum speed. So I can understand why 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:45.920 it takes along to get there. I'm not gonna go 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.400 through the whole list, but we'll start down at number ten, 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.400 which is the night Fiat eight fifty in Romatic, which 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:57.360 goes zero to sixty and twenty five point four seconds. Now, 0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.200 that's a long long time. If you were to start 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.440 a stop watch, you would realize just how long that 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.560 is to you know, to get out into traffic, Try 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.440 to accelerate, try to get up to speed with what 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.440 you know, the type of speed of traffic that we 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.320 see typically here in the modern day. Number nine on 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.960 the list is the fourteen Tata Nano Twist x T, 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.520 which which goes zero to sixty and twenty seven seconds. Um. 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.360 Then there's a couple more a couple more Tatas here 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.400 on the list, and then the nineteen fifty Triumph Mayflower 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.120 is another one that's on the list twenty seven point 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.160 nine seconds. So we're creeping up a little bit here, 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.040 but only up by one second as we get up 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.320 to the midpoint on the list, as the two thousand 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.480 nine Tata Nano, which goes zero to sixty and twenty 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.000 nine point four seconds. And then we go back to 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.840 nineteen fifty four for a Triumph of a model of 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.600 the Triumph called the Renown, and the Renown is pretty slow. 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.360 It's at at twenty nine point five seconds, but that 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.160 is not the slowest vehicle, and they do jump up 0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.880 incrementally here, just very very small amounts. We're talking about 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.880 the nineteen fifty nine Austin Mini Cooper eight fifty m 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.160 K which goes zero to sixty and twenty nine point 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.920 six seconds. Then another triumpher noun model again twenty nine 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.680 point nine seconds. Another Triumph again, So the Triumph is 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.040 represented on this list many many times, as is Tata. 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.440 This is the Herald model, the Triumph Herald from nineteen sixty. 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.880 It's editions so less than a less than a leader 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.520 in this car, it's a little coupe model UM twenty 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.280 nine point nine seconds. But the number one vehicle on 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.600 this list, the slowest zero to sixty time according to 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.720 zero to sixty times dot com, is a car called 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:34.320 the Mia Electric Car. Now. It's an all electric vehicle. 0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.320 It's a French made vehicle does zero to sixty and 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.320 exactly thirty seconds. Now, I have the MEA pulled up 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.400 here on a website and I'm looking at it right now. 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.000 It was produced between June of two thousand eleven and 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.400 December of two thousand thirteen, and it was built in France. 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.040 It's a three door hatchback and there was also a 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.640 van edition of this vehicle. And it's not a car 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.240 that was sold here in the United States. It was 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.240 a European market vehicle, and of course it's just a 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:01.160 commuter car. The top speed on this one is and 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.320 one hundred kilometers per hour, which is equivalent to sixty 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.760 two miles per hour. So that is the maximum speed 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.160 on this vehicle. It had a small battery is I 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.520 believe that, you know, the equivalent horsepower in this thing 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.040 was something like I want to I'm gonna ballpark this. 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.720 I think it was like around twelve horse power or 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.360 something like that. It's a very very low, low horsepower 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.920 vehicle to begin with. And of course horsepower is not 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.920 all that matters in this We're talking about torque and 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.360 all kinds of other things, and electric cars typically have 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.720 a lot of torque, which is surprising. But you know, 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.440 I guess maybe this one just had such a small 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.960 electric motor that it was unable to climb up to 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.480 that that maximum speed very quickly, as we see in 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.240 in some of the other higher performing electric vehicles that 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.160 we do see today, because there are several that are 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.760 that are you know, decent performers. Now it wasn't always 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.080 the case, but there are some now. But again, the 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.360 Mida Electric, I think they gave the two thousand twelve 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.040 model the lowest rating. You know, I think I have 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.400 just about no more really to say about zero to 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.920 sixty times at this point. And uh, you know, if 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.200 you find zero to sixties still am a measurement that 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.040 you want to go buy for buying your vehicle, you know, 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.360 please do. If you find that still interesting, please do. 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.000 And I still do look at it as kind of 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.880 a standard, and it's just one of those equal playing 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.280 fields that everybody can kind of look at and say like, okay, 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.080 I can I can see where one car relates to 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.239 another one or how it compares on again, an even 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:19.239 playing field. Somewhat, Um, maybe that even playing field isn't 0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.480 quite as even as as we're thinking when I when 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.040 I tell you what I'm gonna tell you next, because 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.160 there is a new article that came out just recently 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.520 from Car and Driver, and there is um gosh, I 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:30.960 don't know the best way to put this. Maybe there's 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.040 a there's a new king in town and it is 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:37.480 the Ford Mustang Shelby GT. Five hundred, and this one 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.840 goes by a different measurement, and it's a measurement that 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.000 we don't hear an awful lot about, but it is 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.560 out there, and it's something that manufacturers used for selling vehicles. 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.440 It's a marketing tool, really, and uh it is impressive. 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.040 I mean it is and until you maybe parse this 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.359 out and figure out exactly what we're talking about here. 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.920 So we're talking about a standing start up to one 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.760 hundred miles per hour and then back to us standing 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.200 stop again. And there's a little bit of trickery that 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.520 goes on here. And uh, I want to tell you 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.240 that the Mustang Shelby GT five currently holds this record, 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.280 and Ford claims the number is ten point six seconds, 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.120 So zero one d to zero in ten points six seconds, 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.839 which is really really fast. I mean that's a that's 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.880 a quick quick speed. We were talking about, you know, 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.479 cars that could barely muster up to sixty in that time, 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:26.640 and to climb from sixty to one hundred and then 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:29.320 back to zero again that takes an awful lot more 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.359 time in a lot of cases. And if they can 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.120 even do it, really, this car goes on sale this 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.840 fall and it will begin somewhere around seventy four dollars, 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.320 So there's a seventy four m s r P on 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.200 this vehicle. And the thing is you have to look 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.319 at this number and again break it down into what 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.480 it really means. This has been done by several manufacturers before. 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.120 And here's how this this all works out. And I 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:53.919 didn't know this until I read this article. I thought 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.640 that they were doing a a true you know, standing 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.560 start accelerate up to hundred and then back down to zero. 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.000 That's not the way that this all plays out. The 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.759 way these magazines kind of put these numbers together is 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:07.279 a little bit deceptive, but they're accurate in a way. 0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.319 And I'll tell you how this all happens. What they 0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.560 do is they take a car from zero to one 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.120 hundred and they measure that speed. So let's say that 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.040 a car can go from zero to one hundred in 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.360 I'm going to take the Camaro S S one ll 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.399 E as an example here. Let's say it goes from 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.839 zero to one hundred and nine point one seconds. So 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.880 they get that speed, and that's easy to achieve, you know, 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.520 you just hammer the accelerator and you get to nine 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.800 point one second, sets zero one. Then they take another 0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.080 separate test where they're already going one hundred miles per hour, 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.160 and then they break as hard as they can without 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.960 lock up. And for this car this Camaro S s 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.720 L E and one L E that I'm talking about 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.480 one hundred to zero the breaking speed in in time, 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.200 I guess I should say the time is three point 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.759 eight seconds. So they add together the nine point one 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.279 seconds and the three point eight seconds, and then they 0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.600 get the estimated zero to one hundred zero speed of 0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.240 twelve point nine seconds. So I think, I mean, everybody 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.279 can understand how this is all working out right, It's 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.520 not it's not zero to one D zero, it's it's 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.960 more like zero to one hundred. And then we'll start 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.799 a new test one D zero and then add the 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.279 two numbers together and that's what we get. And that's 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.160 how they measure all these and uh, that is something 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.320 that I just I had no idea that that's the 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:17.680 way they were doing. And I think there have been 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.720 cars in the past that have done this. Now, Carol 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.960 Shelby did it back in nive in the Shelby Cover 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.680 and you might be surprised to learn that the Cover 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.000 seven had a speed This is still quick at fourteen 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.399 point five seconds. But when you consider that the Ford 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.759 Mustang Shelby GT. Five hundred, the current vehicle that's gonna 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.120 be on sale this fall does it in ten points 0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:42.879 six seconds. Uh, four teen point five sounds relatively slow. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.000 I mean when you're talking about, you know, vehicles in 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.600 in this type of performance range. Other cars that do 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.960 it quickly are the Ford Mustang G T which has 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.520 the Performance Pack Level two. I don't know exactly what 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:56.319 that means, h third teen point two seconds. And then 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.400 of course there's the the Mustang Shelby GT three fifty 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.600 which does it and around twelve point six seconds. Other 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.279 cars that you know have done this. There there are 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.759 other vehicles, of course, you know, the corvettes always in 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.760 there somewhere. Of course, manufacturers do kind of play around 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.359 with these a little bit, as you can see, and 0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.920 you know, they give you the best numbers. Obviously, of 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.839 course they want to turn in the best numbers, as 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.880 do you know some of the magazines that put out 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.279 these numbers that the testing is just a it's a 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.080 it's a little bit deceptive if you look at it 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:23.799 that way. And again I had no idea. So what 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:28.240 they're doing is they're extrapolating now how quickly the the Mustang, 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:31.239 the current Mustang we're talking about, the the Mustang Shelby GT. Five. 0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.560 They're extrapolating that that one will be able to accelerate 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.880 in six points seven seconds. And that's based on what 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.719 they assume the breaking is going to be, and they 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.879 assume that it's going to be somewhere around three point 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.400 eight seconds because in this group, you know, in this 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.160 this this type of vehicle that we're talking about, you know, 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.319 the heavy end of this group, they're estimating that one 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.520 hundred zero times about I guess about three point nine seconds. 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.720 Then they subtract, you know, from the the ten points 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.319 six seconds, and you know, they get the number that 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.719 they think it's going to be. So and six point 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.280 seven seconds zero to one hundred is what they're estimating 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.400 to be the zero to one hundred times for this vehicle. 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.960 So again you look into this whole thing because there's 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.600 a lot of interesting ways that manufacturers play around with 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.799 the numbers and and make it kind of work for them. 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.799 And this is nothing new. Manufacturers has done this for 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.000 a long long time. Uh kind of played around with 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.479 the stuff and and kind of uh slant the test 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:20.920 to kind of go the way they want to, or 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.080 you know, gear the car so that it exceeds um 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:26.839 you know, certain parameters that they wanted to so they 0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.920 can then have these bragging rights, you know, zero to 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.160 one hundred or zero to sixty or whatever it happens 0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.680 to be. But definitely dig into that stuff if if 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.640 that type of thing is important to you, and you 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.560 can go to Car and Driver dot com or you know, 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.680 zero to sixty times dot com or any of those 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.160 sites that I've talked about. Digital Trends had some articles 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.520 on this. 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