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Speaker 1: car doctor Facebook page. Mr Ray, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 1: I was doing good? How is about you? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: there and wine you up. Yeah, I'm I'm all wound up.

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Speaker 1: ready to go. Um. Must have been that apple turnover.

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Speaker 1: I had the sugar kicked in, received the letter, which

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Speaker 1: because I think Bob missed the point here. A couple

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Speaker 1: anyone other than John Deer Dealerships to repair their vehicle

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Speaker 1: their equipment will result in the unsafe operation of its products,

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Speaker 1: It just dominoes effects down the line. And there's one

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Speaker 1: last clip, Tom play if that tractors in the middle

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Speaker 1: once again, like auto repair, there aren't enough John Dear

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Speaker 1: just fine, yours, Bob Actue from Emerson, Iowa. But Bob,

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Speaker 1: but a dear technician can fix that. And that's a

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Speaker 1: The problem is they're not like those nineties John dear

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Speaker 1: And there's no prodding, poking, no amount of chanting, tying

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Speaker 1: it's not about repairing the old stuff. I can get

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Speaker 1: but that's another story. But it's the new stuff. And

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of national security. Okay, It's just like cars.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if the only people that could work on cars

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Speaker 1: So don't I wasn't beating up John Deere, the old stuff.

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Speaker 1: cars and how to how to repair these cars. And

426
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Speaker 1: these are the guys who are actually training Tesla how

427
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Speaker 1: to work on their electric cars, which was great. The

428
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: other new thing we we really worked on this year

429
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Speaker 1: is called the Secure Vehicle Interface or s v I,

430
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Speaker 1: and that's something that allows it's a cybersec your thing

431
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: that allows the consumer UH access to the data that

432
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: your car is generating, and then which in turn allows

433
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Speaker 1: the consumer to decide where they want that data to go,

434
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: so whether they want to be able to control it

435
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: and work on work on a car themselves, or if

436
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: they want to be able to control it to have

437
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: it go to their own shop as opposed to just

438
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: having the manufacturer control that data themselves. Those are the

439
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: two really big new things that we saw this year.

440
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, you make an interesting point about the OE manufacturers.

441
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: There's always a large number of o E m attendees

442
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: at APEX every year, right, absolutely, So you know you've

443
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: got the oes involved in in an automotive aftermarket event, right,

444
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's what APEX is. Um. How are the

445
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: new car makers connected to that? I mean, it's nuclearly

446
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: how we're doing it better? Is that what it is? Now?

447
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: You know we have Look, the o ees are buying

448
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: from a lot of the aftermarket companies. Um. You know,

449
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: they're still their customers of ours and so um, we

450
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of them walk on the floor trying

451
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: to find products that they want to then bring back

452
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: to their own uh, to their own shops, and that

453
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: they're going to wind up putting in you know, later

454
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: on down the road for themselves. So I guess you

455
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: know the car companies, they don't really make anything. They're

456
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: just buying the parts and putting it together. Yeah in

457
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: a sense. Um, yeah, it's boy, that's interesting and just

458
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: thank you guys with the hub of it all. Um,

459
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: you know that's what Apex is. Uh. Some of the

460
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: featured companies this year, I mean you look back now,

461
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: the show has happened. It was about two weeks ago,

462
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. Um, when you look back in your

463
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: mind now and you you run that rolodex in your head,

464
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: what were some of the featured companies and products? What

465
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: what what got your attention and what were the big

466
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: things this year for Apex? Yeah, I'd say a few

467
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: things really come to mind. Uh. Interstate Batteries promoted a

468
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: new IB Pulse, which is a new tester that allows

469
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: technicians to actually scan a vin number um on the

470
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: car and it allows them to then test the battery

471
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: really quickly and effectively. UM allmen announced this new digital

472
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: action mirror which allows them to which allows technicians to

473
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: now see parts of the engine that they can only

474
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: feel before UM and it allows them to actually upload

475
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: videos onto their phone, which was going to allow them

476
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: to share with customers, which I think is huge for

477
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: the industry. UM Gates has this new Serpentine kit which

478
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: they really built off of input from repair shops, which

479
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: I think is going to be great for repair shops

480
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: to be able to UM work on preventative repairs for

481
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: vehicle owners. And we were talking about electric cars. Z

482
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: F aftermarket actually through TRW has developed some brakepaths specifically

483
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: for electric vehicles under their Electric Blue brand which premier

484
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: this year Apex, which were huge. So those are the

485
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: ones who really came to mind. And and keeping in

486
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: mind that you know, Apex is the home of the aftermarket,

487
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: and the aftermarket companies are helping they always build cars.

488
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: You know, those after market parts aren't really so bad,

489
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: are they? UM? Not at all? There they are they

490
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: are the way to go if you if you need something,

491
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: there the way to go, whether you're gonna do it

492
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: yourself or how of or have a shop do it

493
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? Interesting, boy, It's always an education. I

494
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: learned something new in this business every day. Um, I

495
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: really do. Mark mcdansky Apex. I appreciate you taking the

496
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: time today. We're gonna listen to go get more information.

497
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Check out our website www. Dot Apex Show dot com. Uh,

498
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: you can learn about what you've missed this past couple

499
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: of weeks at APEX and what we're gonna be doing

500
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: next year for the next year's show. And I invite

501
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: you to come next year and anybody else, but I

502
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: think it'd be great for you to come out and

503
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: do a live spot from next year's show. Well, hey, listen,

504
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: that's always a possibility. Mark. We appreciate you taking the time.

505
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: We know you in the folks at Auto Care Association

506
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: have a lot going on. Um let's sit down and

507
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: talk about that. Maybe we'll kick that around. All right,

508
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: sounds good, ron You take good care. I'm ron Any

509
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. We are back right after this.

510
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go, you've

511
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed.

512
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: Ronny in the Car Doctor eight five five five zero

513
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: zero zero. Now back to on. Hey, let's get over

514
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: talk to Jack and Delaware grandamn Jack around with the car. Doctor, sir,

515
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: how can I help? Okay, thanks for taking a cool

516
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: run roun. Here's the problem. I've bought this car about

517
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: a year ago, a little over a year ago. Uh,

518
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: little old lady one owner, uh, fifty six thousand miles

519
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: on it, perfect shape except for the last couple of years.

520
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: He's getting a little bit on her garage store. But

521
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: other than that, perfect car. All right, Um, it starts overheating,

522
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: and uh, we get this problem. And I eventually I

523
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: got it from my daughter, but eventually I take it

524
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: to uh to a shop down here. He's got it

525
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: for two or three weeks. He's replacing just about everything

526
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: he's He's diligently trying to find the problem. And UM,

527
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: I kind of suspect that it might have been heater pore.

528
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: That's what it turned out to be. But the whole

529
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: cooling system was loaded with mud. I don't think the

530
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: any three was ever changed. Which which engine? Which engine

531
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: is this? Check? The three one or the four cylinder? Oh,

532
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is a two point three to four cylinder,

533
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: but the four valves. Okay, this is the quad quad

534
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: four Okay, yeah, thank you for saying. Uh. Anyway, long

535
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: story short, these guys really did a good job trying

536
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: to find it work on it. And then when they

537
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: did the water pump, they said, um did They said,

538
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the water pump. Okay, so you've got

539
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: to drop the exhaust amount of fault. That's fun after

540
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: twenty three years. Oh yeah, I said, please be careful.

541
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: They were. They didn't bust the bolt or anything. God

542
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: bless him. Put new water pump it. Eventually we get

543
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: the whole problem that that didn't help it. Put it

544
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: eventually came to the heater core. We got the whole

545
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: problem solved. Um, he said, uh, it's the heater core.

546
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: Put the heater core in. And as it turns out,

547
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: when he went to put the water pump in, it

548
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: doesn't take a regular water pump gasket. It takes like

549
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: a doughnut that nobody has. Dunkin Donuts doesn't have this doughnut.

550
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: How could that be? No, nobody's got this doughnut. And

551
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: he had the car for about three weeks and finally

552
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: one of his texts said, you know, I think I

553
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: can kind of massage to this thing and get it

554
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to work, which he did, and they lasted for about

555
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: six months and starting to weak again. Here's my I'm

556
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: sorry for a big long round here, but here's my question.

557
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: You think this, and because I've tried, I've been all

558
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: of it. I can't find this donut. Do you think, um,

559
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: do you think Casey could help me out there? I

560
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: don't think that. Well it it sort of depends on

561
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: what they did to repair it. If they packed it

562
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: with our TV or some other material, you know, if

563
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: they tried to make a gasket. Uh, you know, before

564
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: you go that route, do this. Let me give you

565
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: a part number. You got a pencil, Yes, I do.

566
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Twelve thirty six oh four to seven. Twelve thirty six

567
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: four to seven is the GM Delco. It's ther GM

568
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: original Equipment water pump gas get kit part number four.

569
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: That vehicle twelve thirty six oh four to seven. I

570
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: remember the part number clearly. It's got several long guest

571
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: gets in it, It's got some exhaust donuts in it,

572
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: it's got some O rings in it. It's this whole package,

573
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: and I don't remember it being a lot of money,

574
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: forty fifty bucks back in the day. Because you're right

575
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: to do all this, A lot has to come apart.

576
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: It was a real bad design, um, you know it was.

577
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: It was back that was back in the days when

578
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: GM stood for giant mistakes. And you know, see if

579
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: google that number one, you know, twelve thirty six oh

580
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: four to seven, and if if it looks like the

581
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: gas gets in there, I'm sure you'll get images of it. Um.

582
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: I know parts houses have it. Uh you know, I

583
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: I know it's not completely disappeared yet, you know. Now

584
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a matter of distribution. If he

585
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: was looking and I'm not knocking him, I'm glad to

586
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: hear you know that he did such wonderful things. But

587
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: a lot of guys forget about Delco and GM original parts.

588
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: If he was looking at fell Pro for example, I

589
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: don't I don't think fell Pro has that kid anymore. Um,

590
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, depending upon who's gas and

591
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a funny thing, but gaskets don't

592
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: remember when there was a half a dozen different gasket

593
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: makers in the industry. Now it's that now down the

594
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: fell Pro Malley maybe, um, I think that's it. And

595
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: then the O E stuff. You know, I remember, you know, Victors,

596
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Victor still around. I haven't seen Victor gaskets in a

597
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: million years. Um, you know, but yeah I would. I

598
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: would try that and see if it's there. Um. And

599
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: if that doesn't do it. Um, if that doesn't do it,

600
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: then I've got it. You gotta try and find some

601
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: new old stock, whether it be through a GM dealer,

602
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: because GM dealers will you know, they'll they'll still repair

603
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: that somewhere. I'm sure some dealer's got that gaskets set

604
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: sitting on a shelf. But I can tell you this.

605
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I ordered it. I did. I eventually found it. I

606
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: ordered it from rock Ordo. I got the box in

607
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: and uh, it came with all the all the other gaskets,

608
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: and it came with the uh the exhaust amount of

609
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: phone gaskets, All of that stuff came came with. It

610
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: looks like a doughnut through the exhaust, but not the

611
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: gasket you need. Uh. The only thing I have I

612
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: have like a square cut gasket. It doesn't resemble it, don't.

613
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: It just resembles a pretty good sized O ring. But

614
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: it's square cut and it has a slit right through

615
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: the middle of it. But according to what the fellas

616
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: have worked on the car, said I'm looking for like

617
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: a like a thicker kind of a donor and that

618
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: did not come with the kid. Okay, then we're then

619
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: we're thinking of something else. So do this, can you

620
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you google, and you know, thank God

621
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: for the Internet, there's there's part sources out there, if

622
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: you know. First thing I would do is find an

623
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: illustrated guide to blow up parts catalog of that particular

624
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: gasket you're looking for, and see if you can get

625
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: a part number. If you can, if you can get

626
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: a diagram that shows the gasket you're looking for this gas,

627
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: get this part number, then at least you can start looking,

628
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, because it's hard to walk into a part

629
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: store and say, hey, I need this donut gasket. Um,

630
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, they need a point of reference, something to

631
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: work from. And then at that point, uh, you know

632
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: you can you can either find it new old stock

633
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: or or you know whatever sources ever means auctions of

634
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: flea markets, et cetera. So um uh do that And

635
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: if that doesn't work for you, then I'm gonna tell

636
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Speaker 1: you call me back and we'll we'll we'll we'll get

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Speaker 1: a little more creative. I can talk to some guys

638
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes at GM and see what I can find.

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00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: But you've got to find that gasket. That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: critical to it, because I don't think K Seal as

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00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: good at product as K sal is. It's not a

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00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: gasket substitute. And I don't want to tell you that

643
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: it is to get you to buy a bottle. All right, sir,

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00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: You're very welcome to Jack. You're very welcome, Jack. Keep

645
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: me posted. Thank you so glad to be here for you.

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Speaker 1: Ay five five zero. We're on Any of the Car

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00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: Doctor coming back right after This boy's technology wonderful running

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00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: Any of the Car Doctor. Here. I'm in the studio

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: watching the shop on camera because I'm a little neurotic

650
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: and I just like to keep the shop under my eye.

651
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: An Amazon Parks driver shows up and he slids slides

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00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: a poster that I purchased underneath the fence. It's sitting

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00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: now in the middle of the parking lot, and I

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00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: guess it's gonna sit there until Monday. You know, Amazon,

655
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: great business idea. You need to improve the driver's bill

656
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: in Michigan. How are you today? Bill? I appreciate you

657
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: reaching out like this. You have some comments regarding our

658
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: last caller, Correct Roun. I've had very good luck locating

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00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: obsolete General Motors part from a place called Vintage Part

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Sometimes they're tough to deal with because you've

661
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: got to go through a dealer. But that's where all

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00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: the old GM stuff ends up. They buy from the

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Speaker 1: dealer and from GM. And that's the name of Vintage Parts.

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Speaker 1: Vintage Parts Wisconsin. Okay, because that that seems a little weird, right,

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Speaker 1: that you can't get this one particular gasket. There's still

666
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: gotta be a bunch of quad fours out there, you

667
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: would think, um so, But listen, Bill is always I

668
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: appreciate your reaching out and so your call come in.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, let's called Bill. Um. If

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Speaker 1: anybody know the GM parts source, he will so uh um.

671
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All good with the cars, all the

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: cars behaving themselves. God blessed right, that's right, I know,

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00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: I know. Bill. Hey, listen, Happy Thanksgiving to you and

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Speaker 1: yours and uh thanks for being such a big part

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00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: of the car doctor family all these years. You take

676
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: good care. You're very welcome, sir. Wow, that was a

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00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: quick two hours. All the hours go buy quicker Tom,

678
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: you look a little older. I'm not sure why. Um

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00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: get a little less gray hair just because I worked

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00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: with you, so you have a little less hair. Um,

681
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: you came in that way. That's right. I knew there

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00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: was something missing. So hey, um listen, thanks to everybody.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys being there and um you guys. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Have a good holiday and a good Thanksgiving. Eat a lot,

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00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: rest a lot, have a lot of fun, spend time

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Speaker 1: with the kids. Until the next time I'm rondinading in

687
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: the card. I can reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: They're priceless. See you