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If you do, let 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.399 us know. But we had a good time making it. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.559 We got the whole first season done and we're rolling 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:34.280 them out starting January night. That's right. We appreciate your support. Okay, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:39.760 on with it, roup, Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.200 I'm Josh Clark. With me is always as Charles W. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.200 Chuck Bryant, and that makes this step. You should have 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:52.160 the podcast. Indeed, about dogs my favorite topic. Yeah, that's 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.440 one of them. What else? I don't know? Dogs. I'm 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.680 one of those people that like dogs more than many humans. Sure, so, 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.760 as you know, and so you know all the dog shows. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.720 I'm not real big on I love watching dog shows, yeah, 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.239 I just I've never gotten into them. I know there's criticism, 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.600 there's controversy, but I don't care about that. I just 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.840 I'm kind of bard watching them. I never get bored. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:22.840 It's almost like um watching fractal screensaver something. It sucks 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:27.440 me into that level of like just zoned altitude? Is 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.920 it point? Is it appointment television for you? Like? Do 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.560 you make a point every February something? I think I 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.560 think last year it was Valentine's Day. Yeah, okay, it's 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.919 early February. Yeah. Last year when a little Pekinese one 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.919 name Maliki, I think I remember seeing that dog. Look 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:51.000 at that dog, it's basis beyond cute. Look at that hair. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:56.320 So apparently, UM, if you want to blow up the 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:01.840 Twitter verse with angry tweets, you can um talk politics, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.640 you can talk religion, or you can hold the Westminster 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:10.320 Dog Show and selective best in show. People get pretty upset. Man, 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.040 people went crazy last year. So like, um, what like 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.280 you commenting or just in the Twitter universe people on Twitter. Yeah, no, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.280 I'm just a fan. I don't I don't show no, 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.480 no no. UM. I live tweet very infrequently. It's it's 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.080 tough on the thumbs. Um. But so MALICKI this little 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.440 cute four year old Pekinese um one best in show 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.400 and um people were really mad. They called it a 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:44.160 mop becausin it Haraldo Riverez mustache a wookie snooky for 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.840 some reason, maybe just because it rhymes with wookie and 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.560 that's what they were going for. And they had just 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.320 been watching Jersey Shore. Who knows, Um, But Maliki is 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.000 no slouch. Um they had one a hundred and fourteen 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.480 Best in Show Awards. Wow, only four years old, so 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:05.160 this thing's been mopping up the competition. Oh man, I 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.440 just made myself shiver. But people are crazy, they they 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.480 One guy said he was a fan of the m Dalmatian. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.720 He said, I'm done with these dog shows, and I 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.880 think that happens every year show exactly. There's a lot 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.600 of people who feel very passionately about dog shows. There's 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.560 plenty of people like me who love to just zone 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.080 out and watch them. Um. And then you know, there's 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.360 people who just don't know anything about them. And that's 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.839 what we're here for today, to explain everything there is 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.800 to know about how dog shows work. That's right, and 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.719 this will either be really interesting to you or you 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.160 made just zone out like Josh does watching the Westminster Show. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.120 You know though, UM, I don't think we've ever released 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.880 an uninteresting episode. Maybe they have uninteresting titles, but you 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.400 go on and you listen to it, it will interest you. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.120 I defy you right now. Step you should know listeners 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.920 who haven't listened to every single episode, So we'll call 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.320 you the twenty percent um to go out and find 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.960 an episode that sound boring in the title that you've 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.520 not heard and listened to it, and I guarantee you 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.119 you will find it interesting. It's the it's just the 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:14.560 thing one comes to mind. College football rankings interesting to me. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.720 But boy, our listeners are not into college football. But 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.880 was it for the most part boring? Was it really 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.480 not interesting? There's nothing interesting in there. I think if 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.000 you're not into sports at all, then it was probably 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.960 really boring. But um, well we'll avoid that one or 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.640 the guarantee is void. But hey, if you're into sports, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.400 you'll love it. No. I think on the other end, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.359 if you're into sports, it was like, will you guys 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.480 mess this up? Or you forgot this? Yeah? Oh and hey, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.760 by the way, congratulations we are now an award winning podcast. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.440 We got a stitchy. Is that what they're called? That's 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.359 what I made up. Mark Marin had to call our names. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.680 He hosted these Stitcher awards last night. Yeah, he won 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.719 one himself for the best Episode. Yeah, we were nominated 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.520 for that too, for we were one that I didn't 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.200 think was ten Accidental Intervention. I mean, that was okay, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.520 but I would have picked a different best episode. I 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.000 think it was the sacrament bit that really led us 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:13.400 into that on the toast. Yeah, um, okay, So anyway, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:19.440 dog shows, Yeah, um, conformation shows, not firmation c O 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.640 n f O R are what we're gonna talk about 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.320 for most of the show, and that is pure bred 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:31.480 dogs competing against other pure bred dogs almost exclusively based 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.960 on physical attributes. Yeah, that's the Westminster Dog Show that 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.719 you see every year at Madison Square Garden. Yes. Um, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:44.520 it's just yeah, what the dog looks like, and um, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.560 basically it's appearance, its body structure, and then to a 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:52.600 lesser extent um, it's dude. Yeah, it's attitude, it's a 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.880 character because that also what they're trying to do here. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.159 If you've ever watched a part of this and I 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:02.000 love that this Uh who wrote this one? Jay McGrath, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.960 oh old Jane, I remember her? Uh she wrote that, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.280 have you ever been channel surfing and come across one? 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.320 I feel like a lot of people that is their 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.000 entrance into the dog show world is they're flipping it 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.040 around in February. They go, oh, yeah, that thing where 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.239 the Christopher Guest movie mocked. I'll watch a few minutes 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.320 of that and I've done that, and I've always been 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.240 like I don't get it. How are they judging these 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.600 other dogs against each other? It's a very good question, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.440 and we're here to tell you how. Yeah, because you 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.840 know you this little Pekinese went up against things like 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.760 Great Danes and Dalmatians and Doberman's and all that, and 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.840 it's still beat them all. And the way it did 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.360 that is how they judge any kind of confirmation show. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.679 They judge the dog by the standards of its breed, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.800 and then the dog that most closely fits those idealized 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:59.800 standards wins these very specific registered I'm gonna say registered standards. Yeah, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.320 it's so. Let me give you an example. I was 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.440 looking this up. There's a the in the a k 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.880 C has developed these standards from information taken from breeders 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:13.320 and um they for example, the Lakeland Terrier. UM. One 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:16.720 of the standards is its attitude right, and it has 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.760 the Lakeland Terrier has quote a bowl gay and friendly 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.480 with the confident cock of the walk attitude. So this 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.080 this is the kind of thing that the a k C. Yeah, 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:33.640 basically I love that. Uh. In England they have different standards. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.720 That's the American Kennel Club and they have a different 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.800 show called Crufts c c R you f T s 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.640 UM and there's just a little bit different, but we'll 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.200 get to that later. Yeah, we'll talk about that in 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.200 a little bit. For the most part, we're focused on 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.319 Westminster in the a k c. So, in addition to attitude, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.160 character traits UM, there's all those physical traits that the 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.640 a k c UM has maintained on each breed. So 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:03.640 for example, allans and not how well the dog stands up, 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.800 although the gate is important. If you're talking like falls over, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.640 that's probably a bad sign. But yeah, it's yeah, it's 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.800 not gonna win this year. Um. Balance is what we 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.400 would call symmetry for humans. It's you know, the overall 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.400 proportions of its shape and size. Yeah, like that Scottish 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:22.240 terrier is really pretty, except boy, look at those ears. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.320 The size of its butt. Yeah you're out, sorry, Scotty. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:31.120 Uh wait size eyes and again eyes is size and 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.760 shape and color. If you've got that one, wonky, I 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.800 forget about it unless you're an Australian shepherd. Yeah they are. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.120 They supposed to have one. I think they're supposed to 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.000 have a blue and a brown and blue and a brown. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.200 Everyone I've seen has But what does the a case say, 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.000 I don't know, they don't care what she loves like 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:54.479 you When I think the head shape, of course, ears, muzzle, whiskers, 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.400 thickness of whiskers is an important one. Really, Yeah, I 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.880 would think they'd be an indicator of of poor health. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.640 What that bad whiskers? Thin whiskers, riddle whiskers. I think 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:11.080 you you want nice stout whiskers like uh, it's centimeter 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.480 thick each. Okay, that's probably the standard for any breed. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.360 This is the j K c uh teeth. You always 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.839 see what them checking out the teeth. Um. You don't 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.440 want any kind of weird scissor bite or ah. I 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.040 guess certain breeds have the underbyte. Yeah, a lot of 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:35.320 them do the breaky old CARDI yeah, our own Jerry's dog, Charlie, 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.840 I recently learned as a bit of a little underbite, 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.080 and sometimes the lip will get hung and the little 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.040 bottom teeth are just kind of jetted out there. It's 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.440 it's very cute. You want to go over and like 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.640 adjust the lip, so here you go. Yeah. I like 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.440 dogs that have like teeth sticking like cheese us. Yeah, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:11:01.199 boxers too, write boxers, um pugs, Pekinese. Oh, did one. Yeah, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.840 they all have that. It's it's like brachial cardi. It's 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.720 like anything with a smushed face usually has an underbyte 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.880 as well. Uh teeth, all right, we just had teeth tail, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:17.040 I mean, um, shoulders, and these these dudes are feeling. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.360 These judges are feeling these dogs as well, like muscle 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.960 and bone, like they're trying to get under the fur 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.719 to judge these things. So one of the big things 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.560 your dog has to learn very early on is to 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.079 let strangers feel him up. Yeah, in all sorts of 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.319 uncomfortable places. Yeah, you don't want your dogs snapping at 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.199 this guy when he fondles your dog. And if your 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.560 dog snaps at the judge and then falls over, just 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.840 just go home. It's all over. What did they say 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.680 invest in show when the dog broke his gate? The 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.400 one guy, So he might as well just taken a 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.800 dump right there on the floor. So yeah, Michael McKeen 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.240 said that he's awesome. Um. And then of course there's 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:57.160 coat lengthen texture and color, and very much like thoroughbred horses, 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.680 there's accepted colors for each breeze. You the dog that's 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.000 blue and it's supposed to be a golden retriever, you 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.080 got problems. Yeah, if you got a blue retriever, you 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.560 have many problems. Although you could probably make some money 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.800 taking it around the country taking an old timey circus. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:16.040 Where you can't make money is by winning the Westminster 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.400 Dog Show. Yeah, that's a good point. You would think 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.679 that these these things offer like big cash prizes, but 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.840 they don't. It is really about prestige and being one 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.520 of those dog show people like you know, wearing that 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:33.000 ribbon and getting that trophy, wearing sensible shoes and you know, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.360 learning to walk very fast. That's right, because your gate 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.360 matters is a human, you know. So you put all 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.439 this together, right, and these these judges know the standards 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.320 for the breeds, and when they're looking at this these dogs, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.840 they're saying, they're matching it up to their uh mental 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.040 catalogs they have um and then the ones that most 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.440 closely match the idealized version of their breed, like we said, wins. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:02.000 And that's how you get the the little you know, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.640 loss of ops or the Pekinese that can beat out 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.080 like a Great Dane or a German shepherd or something 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.800 like that. That's how they compare them. Yeah, and that's 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.600 only been going on since I say only since nineteen 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.800 o seven, um, previous to that, And this has been 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.440 going on at Madison Square Garden uh In in in New 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.960 York City since eighteen seventy seven. Time, they didn't have 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.680 a best in show at all until nineteen o seven 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.480 because they said, you know, how do we codify this right? 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.680 And they did. They figured it out and it's really 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.160 Jane says, it sounds confusing, but once I spell it out, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.840 it's simple. But it's still a little confusing. Yeah, it 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.720 took me a couple of times to to figure this out. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.760 There's just a lot of stuffs. She does a great 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.280 job of explaining, and it's just there's a lot to it. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.440 So you wanna you wanna explain this to the Westminster 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.400 Dog Show. We should say is the pinnacle, the peak 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.040 in the United States for any dog, But there's a 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.600 long road ahead of it, like we said, now, like, hey, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.200 the winner of two thousand twelve show had a hundred 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.080 teen best in shows under its belt. Yeah, and Jane 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.679 called it the super Bowl. I would say it's more 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.400 like an All Star Game if the All Star Game 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.959 counted for something, you know, because it's all these all 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.920 stars from the different breeds, from all these shows making 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:22.320 this final It's like the Little League World Series for dogs. Great, 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:27.040 it's like the Chess. It's like Bobby what's his face? 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:33.000 Fisher almost said Bobby Riggs and liked story. Who Bobby Riggs? 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.200 Bobby Fisher? Oh yeah, did you ever see Searching for 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.160 Bobby Fisher? It did? It was great movie. Here's back. Uh. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.560 And then you know, of course, um that song One 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.240 Night in Bangkok. Yeah, it's from a Broadway show and 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.520 I can't remember what the Broadway show is, but it 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.640 was based on Bobby Fisher in his life and now 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.080 he moved to Asian and just evolved in the manus. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.040 That song is about Bobby Fisher, and that was from 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.280 a Broadway show as far as I know. Yes, And 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.040 then the pop vision was just re recorded by whoever 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:07.040 that was, possibly by the original composers, but for the radio. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.200 I thought One Night in Bangkok was about you would 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:15.160 think never mind, I was gonna bring up all you 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.200 had to do? Is this in there? Yeah? Who was 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.400 Gary Glitter? That's what I was thinking. Yeah, I don't 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.360 think so. I think he got in trouble in Bangkok. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.960 If you know what I mean he did, and he 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.080 recently got in trouble with the whole Jimmy Saville. He 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.880 was part of that too, apparently, gross Man. What a 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:38.680 sidetrack that was? So? Um Okay, to be a champion, right, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.480 this is what a dog games for is to be 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.040 a champion. That's right, Because if you're a champion, you 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.880 um get to add c H as a prefix to 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.160 your name. Yeah, like I would be c H. Then 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:54.120 Chuck if I were a champion dog, yeah, you'd beat you, Chuck, Chuck. 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.760 All right, So let's walk everyone through this, right, all right. 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.080 To be a champion, you gotta get compile a certain 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.160 number of points, uh. And you earn these points at 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.680 different dog show competitions around the country that are not 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.840 the Westminster show. Yeah, and from different judges. Right, you 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.520 gotta get at least fifteen points from three different judges 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.080 or at least two major wins from separate judges. And 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.400 a major win, uh is one where you can earn three, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.000 four or five points, And that's when you can get 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:27.400 the right as a champion just for that little show though, right, 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.320 or no, for the compilation of those shows. Right. So um, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.120 when you get this, uh, when you get to become 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.000 a champion. Um when you have I think it's fifteen 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.680 points and two major wins from separate judges. Yes, you're right, Um, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.120 you you get to this point. Also, like you said, 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.400 it's not Westminster, it's these little specialty shows. And I 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.600 don't mean little to diminish and I'm just saying compared 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.320 to Westminster, they're much smaller. It's not on ESPN and 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.000 there's specialty shows. Well, it's on the Oh Chow, I'll 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.560 bet um it's the specialty shows are based on UM 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.159 specific breeds, so you'll go to like the Chuhaha Show 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:10.520 or um the Lakeland Terrier Show. Uh. And the dogs 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:15.000 are separated between male and female and we can say 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:16.880 the B word in this one because that's what it's called. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.800 That's my new band name, by the way, what winner's bitch? Okay? 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.720 Um and Uh they're the males and the females. Are 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.760 then separated into six different classes. You've got the puppy class, 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:36.720 the twelve eighteen month old class novice, so those are 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.280 dogs that are UM six months or older that haven't 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.640 won any point yet, haven't won any first place prizes, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.600 so they can be a little older. But there's still 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.439 rookies as far as the competition stage goes, right, and 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.959 six months is the minimum age to compete in an 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.920 A k C show. Yeah, below that, you're just there's 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.600 no way. Yeah, they're too dumb to unpredictable. Um. Bread 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.080 by exhibitor is a class of dogs where the person 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.239 showing the dog is also the breeder. The breeder, by 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.520 the way, is the owner of the dog's mother. Right. Um, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.159 there's American bread, which is any dog born in the 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:14.400 US USA. UM. And then there's open the open classes 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.280 open to any dog. And this is the only class 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.679 that any dog that's already become a champion can compete in. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.199 In the specialty show, oh they are Yeah, that's the 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.520 only class open to that. Because they could just mop 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.720 up all the other classes. They have to face any 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.280 takers in the open class, it's a good way to 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.960 put it. So they divide it up by male and female. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.719 The males go first, and they, you know, inspect all 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.520 the males as they do it any of the shows. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.320 You know what that means. Finally, you give them the 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.919 award ribbons first through fourth place, and you don't get 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.480 any points at this point though. The first place. Winners 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.840 of the male class have to compete for the winner's dog. 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.760 The female's class compete for winners bitch. You want to 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.600 say it, I've said it twice now I don't want 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.840 to say I find it difficult to say. Really, it's 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.880 just the connotations are sure. You know, I've never used 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:08.080 that word, uh in like anger about someone that's it's 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.320 a it's a very rough it's yeah, And I don't don't. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.000 I don't think that makes me a good person or anything. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.159 But there's just a couple of things that like I 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.080 wouldn't call my worst enemy, and that's one of them. Gotcha, 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.320 I don't have any enemies. What am I talking about? 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.760 So you've got the winner's dog in the winner's bitch, 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.160 um and uh this is this is the point where 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:34.960 they start um winning awards point points. I mean, I'm sorry. Um, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.359 So this is all all these different dogs have been 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.720 weeded out by the different classes and then there there 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.280 you've got the out of all these six classes of 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.000 the male cad male version, in the female version, you 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.560 have winners, right, and then there's uh so this is 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.159 where the points start being awarded. Then there's chances for 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.959 more points in the same show. Um, any champion can 0:19:55.960 --> 0:20:01.080 come along and take the winners on for um best 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.959 in show or best in breed. Yes, and you can, 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.000 and you compile extra points depending on how many dogs 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.560 they beat out. So if you beat out a bunch 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.800 of more dogs, you can turn up to five points. Right, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.080 five is the most. And remember a major wins three 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.120 or four or five points in a win. Yes, okay, Um, 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.400 so you can win some by being the winner's dog 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.239 or the winner's bitch. You can, Um, the champions can 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.080 take those guys on in the best of breed and 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.880 then um, between those two, the winner's bitch and the winner, um, 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:34.359 winner's dog, there's another walk off I guess, and um 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.760 they can win point to ever be two. And then 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.240 there's the best of opposite sex. Yeah, that was the 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:42.320 best of winners, and then the best of opposite sex, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.119 which it says the best dog of the opposite sex 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.160 of the best of breed. Yes, So whichever dog, whether 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.960 it's the winner's dog, the winner's bitch, or any champion 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.399 that took him on, and one the best of breed, 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.320 say that's a male that wins. Then there's another category 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.760 for the winners. That's females or vice versa, the opposite 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.439 best of opposite. Basically, it's like, we got all these 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:08.040 points sitting around, let's let's get rid of some good point. 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.080 Or or it's like, did you ever go to camp 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.119 and like run a race but ran terribly, but you 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.400 still got a ribbon that just said participant. Maybe it's 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:20.840 like that. That's like every race I ever rand the 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.560 same here. Basically I had a trophy once that just 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.440 it was a sad face. Really Yeah, there's a baseball 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.359 bat was kind of sitting at the foot of the 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.600 kid with his head hung down frowning. Yeah. I played 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.480 church sports, so we didn't. Uh, they didn't do a 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.800 lot of trophies, even in church leagues. Like the ultimate 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:40.840 victor of the church we got a trophy, but they 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.600 weren't big on like ribbons and trophies. The ultimate victor 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.520 of the church league, I would imagine, is salvation. Yea, 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.680 we all won, Okay, so then you've got your best 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.080 of breed winner and then that dog can then advance 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.560 to a group show where all these best of breed 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:02.280 winners compete a K A or a K see Westminster. Right. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:06.040 So um, to make that point when you are at 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:10.679 a specialty show and you're aiming for Westminster, which I 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.200 imagine every dog there is. You want to win best 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.040 of Breed. You can win points and become a champion 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.240 through winning other stuff like best of Opposite Sex, best 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.520 of Winners, winners, dog winners, bitch right, But to move 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.200 on to the next level, you have to win best 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:26.640 of Breed of that show, and you have to win 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.359 a bunch. I imagine that's right. And at this point 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:32.600 half of our listeners are delighted in half their eyes 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.520 are rolling back into their head. Man, we just explain 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:41.080 the heck out of that. Um. So we're at Best 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:45.240 in Show, the movie that's such a good movie. If 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:49.600 you've not seen Best in Show, that Christopher Guest film, uh, 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.119