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Speaker 2: Times reports today on June sixteenth, that Donald Trump has

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Speaker 2: made a headline generating threat. The headline of the New

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Speaker 2: York Times story reads the radical strategy behind Trump's promise

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Speaker 2: to go after Biden. Let's talk about that story, and

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the meaningless headline of the New York Times.

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Speaker 2: It follows conservatives with close ties to Donald J. Trump

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Speaker 2: are laying out a paradigm shifting legal rationale to erase

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Speaker 2: the Justice Department's independence from the president. That's how the

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Speaker 2: a certain conceit and arrogance, if you will. The premise

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Speaker 2: is that when they report it, it becomes news. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't so much matter when it is that Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: first made the threat. The act that matters is the

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Speaker 2: act of reporting. And the giveaway is that phrase headline

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Speaker 2: generating threats. What are the threats? The threats are simple.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is declaring that he will use the awesome

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Speaker 2: retribution and revenge against his political opponents.

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Speaker 1: He seeks to lock them up.

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Speaker 2: He seeks to smash the system that has imposed a

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Speaker 2: premise that he doesn't very much like on him. And

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Speaker 2: it's this that no person in the United States of

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Speaker 2: America is above the law. What Donald Trump is promising

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Speaker 2: is a raign where he stands singularly not only.

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Speaker 1: Above the law, but as the law.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's candidacy is an assertion that he will be

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Speaker 1: How does that sound?

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Speaker 2: This is antithetical to every concept of Americanism that has

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Speaker 2: is a place where freedom of speech, of conscience matter.

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Speaker 2: What Donald Trump is saying with his threats that because

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Speaker 2: he has been held accountable, he seeks to break the institutions.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the Conservative Party the Republican Party in the United States,

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Speaker 2: the conservation of the tenants of the American Revolution has

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Speaker 2: become the main vessel for the rise of I want

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Speaker 2: to be American dictator, an American Mussolini. That is what

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Speaker 3: Democrats want to destroy his life because they fear him.

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Speaker 3: And from my point of view, From my point of view,

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Speaker 2: Conservatism is in good hands with Donald Trump. Well, it

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Speaker 2: what that means is America is under a very brave threat.

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Speaker 2: Would Abraham Lincoln came to Gettysburg to deliver a short speech.

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Speaker 2: What he said there reconsecrated the purpose of America. What

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Speaker 2: the people, for the people shall not perish from this earth.

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Speaker 2: A great war was fought, and since then, hundreds and

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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of Americans, mostly young men, have laid

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Speaker 2: the New York Times doesn't get it. Take again the

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Speaker 4: I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after

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Speaker 4: the most corrupt president of the history of the United

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Speaker 4: States of America, Joe Biden and the entire Biden crime family.

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Speaker 4: Name a special prosecutor, and all others involved with the

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Speaker 4: destruction of our elections, our borders, and our country itself.

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Speaker 4: They're destroying our country. And when I'm re elected, and

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Speaker 4: I will totally obliterate the deep state. We will obliterate

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Speaker 2: And we know who they are.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly who they are.

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Speaker 4: They want to take away my freedom because I will

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Speaker 4: never let them take away your freedom. It's very simple.

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Speaker 4: They want to silence me because I will.

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Speaker 2: Never let them silence you.

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Speaker 1: They want you.

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Speaker 4: Silence, and I am the only one that can save

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Speaker 2: Now, it's important to understand when Donald Trump talks about

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Speaker 2: What he's talking about is a lacked representative American government.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about smashing the FBI, he's talking about breaking

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Speaker 2: we have a freedom of speech, a freedom of conscience,

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Speaker 2: first time. Let's continue reading from the New York Times story.

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Speaker 2: Mister Trump's message was that the Justice Department charged him

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Speaker 2: would invert that supposed politicization. In reality, under Attorney General

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland, to Trump appointed prosecutors are already investigating mister

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Speaker 2: Biden's handling of classified documents and the financial dealings of

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Speaker 2: Bidens were not quote real end quote, mister Trump appeared

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Speaker 1: Of the facts.

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Speaker 2: Times phrases this as mister Trump appeared. Mister Trump is

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Speaker 2: being perfectly clear, absolutely explicit. He couldn't be more clear

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Speaker 2: if he tattooed it on the foreheads of the New

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Speaker 2: mister Trump's promise fits into a larger movement on the

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Speaker 2: the president. Let's unpack this paragraph. Besides the fever swamps

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Speaker 1: It is not true. It is a lie and utter fantasy.

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Speaker 2: All autocratic, fascistic political movements allied with extremists that rely

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Speaker 2: animals on earth. The question is not should the Department

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Speaker 2: The President has broad discretion in directing the Department of Justice,

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Speaker 2: a country where the rule of law is supreme is

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Speaker 1: It should never.

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Speaker 2: about detalitarian systems. Everything that happened in Nazi Germany was

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Speaker 2: legal theory. That is the spine of dictatorship, of a

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Speaker 2: a fascist movement has ever taken power, it has successfully

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Speaker 2: the absolute fear, of course, is the bestowment.

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Speaker 1: Of absolute power.

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Speaker 1: Survived like this end quote.

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Speaker 2: Mister Vought continued, quote The Justice Department was ground zero

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Speaker 2: that's the euphemism for it, paradigm shifting. Fascists love their euphemezos.

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Speaker 2: a paradigm shift. I suppose the New York Times should

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Speaker 2: be clear with its readers. Donald Trump is running for

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Speaker 2: They seek, the end of liberty in the name of

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 2: The FBI has become a political weapon for the ruling

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Speaker 2: the president of the Heritage Foundation. Again, nonsense. It is

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Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory. It is no different than the bullshit

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Speaker 2: political motive for whatever reason. Extremist MAGA has turned its

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Speaker 2: it's doing is trying to incite civil war for profit,

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Speaker 2: for money, for billions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is. And no doubt.

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Speaker 2: the incitements to violence that few forth from Fox News.

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Speaker 2: or precisely, they don't believe in America. Not democratic America,

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Speaker 2: not free America, not the land of the Free and

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Speaker 2: the home of the brave, a place that John Kennedy

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Speaker 2: saying is a lie. What Donald Trump is saying is

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Speaker 2: born from desperation, born from an arrogance of belief that

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Speaker 2: he could lie with the pudity forever, but he cannot.

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Speaker 2: His number will come due and is coming to understand

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Speaker 2: this though. No matter what smokescreen New York Times uses

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Speaker 2: being said, trying to bounce, trying to seek a middle

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Speaker 2: about destroying American democracy, in contextualizing that as part of

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Speaker 2: some mainstream debate on an access that exists between two

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Speaker 2: political parties. And therefore, because one believes this here and

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Speaker 2: the other believes this there, that the middle is some

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Speaker 2: because everything is perfectly clear. Joe Biden stands for American democracy.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump stands for the proposition that he will be

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Speaker 2: America's dictator, that he and his family will take as

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Speaker 2: they please, We will serve as they direct, we will

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Speaker 2: believe as they say, and we will speak as they please.

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Speaker 1: No thanks,