WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Welcome Back

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<v Speaker 1>Hike and everybody on Dan Horde and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth podcast. The Welcome Back, Welcome Back, Welcome Back addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals return from their bye weekend to host

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<v Speaker 1>the first Place Baltimore Ravens. In case you didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 1>the tune, it was part of the theme song from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies TV show Welcome Back, Cotter, Good Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Old Coming Up. I'll be joined by my broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>partner Dave Lapham as well discussed the challenge Ryan Finley

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<v Speaker 1>will face in his first NFL start. A Ravens quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson is changing the NFL, and Lapp will share

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<v Speaker 1>some great stories about his friend and former teammate Jim Leclair,

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<v Speaker 1>who passed away this week at the age of sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>A locker room conversation is with wide receiver Alex Ericson.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll share his impressions of his new starting quarterback, what

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<v Speaker 1>aj Green's return will mean to the team whenever that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll ask Alex if he should be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>pretending to be Lamar Jackson at practice this week. And

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's Know the Faux segment, we'll get the

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<v Speaker 1>lowdown on the Ravens from Baltimore reporter Luke Jones. All

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<v Speaker 1>of that is straight ahead, but first, here's a quick

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<v Speaker 1>reminder that you can have the latest edition of this

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since The Office. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>regularly watch The Office when it was on TV, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've been catching up on flights and in hotel rooms

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, and well you already know this, but it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish I had enough time to watch every episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but with my current schedule, it's really hard. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>she said. Now, let's get to football time for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's conversation with Dave Lapham, and we kept it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit shorter this week because, as you will hear,

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<v Speaker 1>Lapp has been battling a pretty significant cold. One quick note,

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded this on Wednesday before practice, when all signs

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<v Speaker 1>pointed to the return of AJ Green. Then he reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>experienced swelling in his ankle after a morning walkthrough and

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<v Speaker 1>did not participate in practice. So as of now, aj

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<v Speaker 1>status for Sunday's game is TBD. The Bengals could obviously

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<v Speaker 1>use him as they looked for their first win of

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<v Speaker 1>the season after an O and eighth start, a scenario

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<v Speaker 1>that Dave Lapham can identify with. As we mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 1>you are on a team back in nineteen seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>that started O and eight. You beat Houston in week nine,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to thirteen. That Houston team went ten and

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<v Speaker 1>six and made it to the AFC Championship Game that year.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember how that win felt. I do remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost felt like a playoff win, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it had that kind of that kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>relief moment to it. You know, it's finally like all

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<v Speaker 1>this work finally paid off. You know, you can liken

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<v Speaker 1>it to uh, you're a salesperson and you go two

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<v Speaker 1>months without a sale and you're a straight commission salesman

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<v Speaker 1>and the covers are getting there. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting any you're not getting any any buzz

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<v Speaker 1>for your work. There's no payback, and so it just

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<v Speaker 1>it just felt like that. I remember how euphoric the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room was, you know, it was. It was a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge relief that was a good football team that Houston

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<v Speaker 1>Moor football team was a daring good football team, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we knew just like this team. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of similarities. I mean, we played Houston

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, they played Baltimore a lot. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of similarities there. So I mean, if they could, if

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals could knock off the Baltimore Ravens after they

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<v Speaker 1>knocked off the undefeated New England Patriots, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>think there's gonna be a little bit of Baltimore looking

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<v Speaker 1>past the Cincinnati Bengals in this football game after what

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<v Speaker 1>they did against New England's human nature, And if the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals can trap them, you know, load the trap and

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<v Speaker 1>spring the trap on them, that would beat That would

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<v Speaker 1>be a big, big win, a division win, because Dan

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<v Speaker 1>they're won in seven in the last eight division games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's they got to start competing a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better than that in the division lap. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Andy Dalton will play quarterback again for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Dalton era is over after eight and a

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<v Speaker 1>half years, how should it be remembered? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the fans are going to have some mixed memories

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<v Speaker 1>of it because of the lack of a playoff win,

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<v Speaker 1>but boy, to go to the playoffs five straight times,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a franchise record. And you know, the average like

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<v Speaker 1>ten wins a season during that time frame is as

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<v Speaker 1>long a period of success as the franchise has ever enjoyed. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Andy Dalton is responsible, a big should take

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<v Speaker 1>a big shoulder a big part of that responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>that success. There's no question about it, Andy Dalton and

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<v Speaker 1>AJ Green, that era was was prolific, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season from by club standards in terms of record.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, unfortunately, you know, not having a playoff here.

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<v Speaker 1>If they just could have come up with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with a playoff wins somewhere along that that five year stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be remembered, I think, a lot differently than

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<v Speaker 1>it'll probably be remembered now, no question about it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a trying first year for Zach Taylor, to say

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<v Speaker 1>the least. Are there any really obvious lessons that you

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<v Speaker 1>think he can take from this year? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know today's NFL and there's only so many things you

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<v Speaker 1>can do by collective bargain agreement and protecting players and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of thing. But I just think that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I never saw nine on seven. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw anything really really physical, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp or practices, and I know once the season starts,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really do anything in practice. You can only

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<v Speaker 1>have I think it's what seventeen padded practices for the season,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one a week if you're lucky. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>in training camp, and I'm not saying beat them to death.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, old man, get off my long kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. You know, beat these guys up and go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the old school way of doing it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think maybe just a little bit more physicality,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like in the beginning, especially, they were

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<v Speaker 1>almost surprised by the tempo and speed of the game

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<v Speaker 1>and the physicality of the game in the early stages

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Now you're just to it as the

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<v Speaker 1>season wears on, and it's hard to practice harder as

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<v Speaker 1>the season wears on. But maybe in the earlier stages

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<v Speaker 1>of it, as you're getting ready for the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean I experienced it preseasons one. Speed, regular

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<v Speaker 1>season ratcheted up, playoffs ratcheted up big time. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>no question I think everybody would agree with that. So

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<v Speaker 1>while you're in that infancy stage of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>tempo and the physicality of it in the preseason, I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe a little bit more physicality in the practice

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<v Speaker 1>to get them ready for the early stages of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular seas and might be something to think about. But

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<v Speaker 1>in today's football, you know, I understand how everybody's going.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know even in the back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Walts when he had those great teams with the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine or forty nine er players, told me they

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<v Speaker 1>never wore shoulder pads once training camp broke. They never

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<v Speaker 1>had a padded practice and they went out there and

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<v Speaker 1>kick some tail. So you know, you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>find cases. You can be Perry Mason and find precedent

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<v Speaker 1>cases for just about anything you want to make. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that you know, not tackling. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying tackle guys have one on one nutcracker drills. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that kind of stuff. But I'm saying maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit more thumb lap. We've got our

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<v Speaker 1>fingers crossed that d aj Green will make his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen debut this week. Aj missed seven of the last

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<v Speaker 1>eight games last year, and the first eight this year,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's basically missed a full season. The Bengals are

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<v Speaker 1>one in fifteen in those games before he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, they were five in three. Can he make

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<v Speaker 1>that much of a difference when he returns this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he can. I mean, I think he's the

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<v Speaker 1>king Domino. When AJ Green's out in the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>it reconfigures coverage, Chilt's coverage differently. It's going to make

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<v Speaker 1>life easier for Tyler Boyd. It's going to make life

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<v Speaker 1>easier for everybody else. He's gonna draw double teams. There's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be space for others to take advantage of.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to empty the box out. There'll be one

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<v Speaker 1>less guy in the box for the offensive line to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about, Joe Mixon to worry about. Running lanes will improve.

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<v Speaker 1>The ripple effect of AJ Green is huge, both up

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<v Speaker 1>and down ripple effect. It's big big. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up something that your former teammate Chris Collinsworth said

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday Night Football last week. He said, quote, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those moments in time where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to think back in a few years and go remember

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<v Speaker 1>the night that Lamar Jackson and the Ravens style of

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<v Speaker 1>offense took apart the Patriots. We're going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to point to quarterbacks in the National Football League that

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance because of this night. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the Collin's Worth quote. Is Lamar Jackson opening

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<v Speaker 1>the door for a different style of quarterback. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a real big door because not many people can run

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<v Speaker 1>like Lamar Jackson. I mean, you know, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>find guys they run a four, three five, they can play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a quarterback well enough in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't take long to call that role, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is so unique. The dude, in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is a running back because he can make you

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<v Speaker 1>miss in a short space and he can run away

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<v Speaker 1>from you. Who can throw a little bit. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, you know, they can throw a real well,

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<v Speaker 1>they can run a little bit. He's the reverse of

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<v Speaker 1>the norm. And that guy is so rare. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about him is is, you know, people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you think it'll last? I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>how long can he can he go? Because of his elusiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't take flush hits, you know, he makes he

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<v Speaker 1>makes them glancing blows and he's smart enough. He'll go

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground, he'll go out of bounce. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>lower his shoulder and try to run people over. He

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<v Speaker 1>will run between the tackles. But he's clever enough to

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<v Speaker 1>make it, you know, instead of just a direct hit

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<v Speaker 1>right down the middle. I mentioned this a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Reminds me of James Brooks when I talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everybody's like JB. Everybody's like, how long are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna last? Running the way you run the football?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, because man, I make it a glancing blow.

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<v Speaker 1>If they take a direct hit at me, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>on me. It's my bad. God bless me with these

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<v Speaker 1>abilities to make them glancing blows. And I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>every one of them. I can a glancing blow. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Frank Or even with his running style, he

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<v Speaker 1>has a way of right at the very end, just

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<v Speaker 1>moving a little bit where it's not a direct smoke hit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more of a glancing blow. That's why he's last

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<v Speaker 1>as long as he has. Plus, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>luck involved. The Bengals face the most blitz happy defensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator in the NFL on Sunday in Baltimore's Don Wink Martindale,

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<v Speaker 1>a former UC assistant coach back in the Rick minter days.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the formula for success for a rookie quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finlay in his debut against that defense? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all up the blitzpeeders, you know, I mean, because Wink

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<v Speaker 1>Martindale is going to bring it. He's going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>one more than you can block. I mean he's brought

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<v Speaker 1>it a little over fifty percent of the time on

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<v Speaker 1>the season, he blitz the heck out of Brady. So

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<v Speaker 1>if he blitzs the heck out of Brady, what is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to do it? Or a rookie with his

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<v Speaker 1>first NFL start, Gosh, it might be you know, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the time, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>he just has only two defensive linemen and two point stance.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is up into three point stance. Excuse me, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is into two point stance, milling around and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have seven, eight, nine, ten, even eleven guys with the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage and trying to identify who's coming and

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<v Speaker 1>who's not. And you know they wait at the very

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<v Speaker 1>last second until you call your final protection, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they try to bring one more than you can block

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<v Speaker 1>on the opposite side. It's it's very, very difficult. So

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<v Speaker 1>communication is going to be real big. When he changed

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<v Speaker 1>his protections, which he's gonna have to do, Trey Hopkins

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<v Speaker 1>is going to call a protection. He's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>change it to have to be able to communicate that

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<v Speaker 1>and his receivers is gonna have to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page of him. Was side just blitzpeaters with routes

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what A. J. Green and Andy Dalton did

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<v Speaker 1>so well Thursday nine, a year ago when they made

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<v Speaker 1>Don Wink Martin deal Blink and he stopped blitzen for

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty thirty five plays. They were killing him on

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<v Speaker 1>side of just slants and quick slants and just blitzpeaters

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<v Speaker 1>and beat him to death. Last thing, you lost a

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<v Speaker 1>friend and a former teammate this week with the passing

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<v Speaker 1>of former Pro Bowl linebacker Jim Leclair. When the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>named their top fifty retired players a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in their fiftieth season, he checked in at number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three. Jim went back to North Dakota after his

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<v Speaker 1>playing days. He became a mayor. What do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>most vividly about Jim Leclair. We were just talking about thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I remember about Jim Mclair thump. I had

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<v Speaker 1>my first quote episode, you know. Was it a concussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was a concussion, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know I saw a big flash of lights and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't walk a straight line. And I remember and that

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<v Speaker 1>was my very first practice at training camp. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with Stan Walters, the SS Walters Stanley Steamer out

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<v Speaker 1>of Syracuse. I was playing guard, he was playing tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>We were running a little live drill against defensive linemen

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<v Speaker 1>and linebacker are like a nine on seven type thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I came off a double team on the down

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<v Speaker 1>linement and I tried to kind of like checking peekaboo

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit where Jim Leclair was. That dude had

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<v Speaker 1>the most fierce forearm I've ever felt. Man. He hit

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<v Speaker 1>me square right in the forehead and shortened my neck,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was, oh, I was buzzing long distance phone

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<v Speaker 1>call nobody on the other end. Man. And I come

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<v Speaker 1>walking back to the staggering back to the hud a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and Stan LOOKSIMI goes, hey, one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you, rook. He says, that guy fifty five,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacques Leclair, don't be peeking for him. You gotta bring it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't come out that double team unless you bring it.

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<v Speaker 1>Us I already I just figured that out. That dude

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<v Speaker 1>would hit you. And I remember. The big thing is

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<v Speaker 1>they had Victor, the wrestling bear that traveled around to

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<v Speaker 1>all the cities, and Jim Leclair was a heavyweight wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim Leclair Russell's Victor and was shooting his leg

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, taking him down. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was an unbelievable performance. And the handler or Victor called

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<v Speaker 1>it off because Victor was undefeated and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>little worried about Leclair and Victor. He got Victor down

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<v Speaker 1>on his back and uh and Victor had this big,

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<v Speaker 1>long tongue. They muzzled him and they declawed him, but

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<v Speaker 1>his tongue came out of there and wrapped around Jimmy's head.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh, so, I said, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>worst part of Victor goes? Man, that tongue stunk. That

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<v Speaker 1>tongue stunk like a garbage truck man, he goes and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get that thing off my head. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, man, Jimmy Jimy Leclair would he would hit

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<v Speaker 1>you in the running game, and played with him with

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<v Speaker 1>the Generals too. We both went to the Generals and

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<v Speaker 1>what Michael's you know, named him captain to his defense,

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<v Speaker 1>he was captain here. He was definitely a leader of men,

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<v Speaker 1>big broad coat, hanger shoulders man and just a physical,

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<v Speaker 1>physical football player who you know, brought it every single snap.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and his wife Betty were pretty good friends

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<v Speaker 1>of Lennon. Are Lennon mine and we're both we're both

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<v Speaker 1>grieving that one because I remember Betty telling us that

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<v Speaker 1>this was a while back, that she kept having to

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<v Speaker 1>reintroduce herself to Jim, which you know, it's heartbreaking when

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<v Speaker 1>somebody'd been with your whole life, you know, the partner

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't recognize you anymore. That has to be a tough

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<v Speaker 1>thing to deal with. So I hope Jim's in a

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<v Speaker 1>better place now. I know he is, and he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>organizing a game of nine on seven up there as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak. Fourth round draft pick Ryan Finley will make

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<v Speaker 1>his first NFL started quarterback this Sunday, and here's hoping

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<v Speaker 1>he is as impressive as he was in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>In the opener of Kansas City, Finley completed his first

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<v Speaker 1>ten passes. The following week at Washington, he completed his

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<v Speaker 1>first nine. Overall. In three preseason games, Ryan completed seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three percent of his throws, with three touchdown passes, one

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<v Speaker 1>I NT and a passer rating of ninety nine Think three.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Riksson was on the receiving end of several of

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<v Speaker 1>those preseason throws, and I spoke to the Bengals wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver this week. We are in the locker room with

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals wide receiver Alex ericson how did you spend your

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<v Speaker 1>bye weekend? Well, I went back to Sonny, Wisconsin and

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<v Speaker 1>hung out with the family and spent some time to

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<v Speaker 1>just being a dad and being a husband. I assume

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<v Speaker 1>you're refreshed more physically or mentally. I'd say both pretty equal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. I think the mental size just as

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<v Speaker 1>important as the physical side, and I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>refresh and get away from it and come back just

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<v Speaker 1>refocused and finished the season and the way we want to.

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<v Speaker 1>For visiting with Alex Rikson's who You're back at it?

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<v Speaker 1>This week? With Ryan Finley getting set to make his

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<v Speaker 1>first NFL started quarterback, what stood out to you when

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<v Speaker 1>he played in the preseason. Yeah, Ryan's a competitor. He

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<v Speaker 1>just got something about him that, you know, he makes

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<v Speaker 1>plays when that doesn't look like there's gonna to play there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got good pocket presents and he does a good boss.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited for it. Um, you know, he's preparing hard.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our you know, this is our first week

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<v Speaker 1>with really a new quarterback a long time, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it's different, and um, we just got

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<v Speaker 1>to do our part to help him out with communicating

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<v Speaker 1>and being in the right spots and just make sure

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<v Speaker 1>he feels comfortable with us as receivers. He's twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in college for six years. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a difference. Yeah, I think so another year

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<v Speaker 1>the mature and figure figure yourself out and U So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that definitely definitely makes a difference. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know at this point if aj Green will be back,

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly looks promising for the other wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe what it means when he's out there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's our leader, he's our captain. Uh, He's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>we've all leaned on since the first day we got here,

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy that we've all watched and admired and

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<v Speaker 1>really just so when he's out there, it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's exciting. It's another obviously Hall of fame receiver out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's not like you're just getting a

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<v Speaker 1>guy back. You know, you're getting You're getting the guy

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy that's had a lot of success in

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<v Speaker 1>this league over a long time. And so yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's he's a vital part of this team

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<v Speaker 1>and when he's out there definitely makes a difference. The

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<v Speaker 1>record obviously isn't good. He's coming back from an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>gets a contract here, and I can imagine some wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers around the NFL or players in general that would

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down. He has no intention of doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean to the other guys on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>It means everything. It means he's here to fight with

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<v Speaker 1>us through through the tough times and through the uncertain times,

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing that he's putting all his his own agendas

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<v Speaker 1>stuff away and just being a great teammate. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way he is. The type of guy

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<v Speaker 1>he is. He he hates missing time, he hates missing practice,

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<v Speaker 1>he hates missing one rep, you know, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell by the way practice he'll be flying around, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be running more than anybody. And so we know what

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<v Speaker 1>type of guy is and it just kills him not

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<v Speaker 1>to be out there. So I'm not surprised that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be out there and help us, help us

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<v Speaker 1>get our first one. A few more questions for alex

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<v Speaker 1>ericson you faced the Ravens. You played them three games ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This team blitzes as much as any team in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that impact your route running? Do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be more aware of a hot route or things like that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it's just like you said, just

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<v Speaker 1>being aware of the positions there and the leverages are

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<v Speaker 1>in and you know idea and that you know when

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<v Speaker 1>they're bringing the zero pressures that they're obviously gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>one more than we can block, so you know the

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<v Speaker 1>ball is gonna come out quicker and gotta be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a fifty fifty play sometimes. And yeah, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, throughout the game, you just you get

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<v Speaker 1>a feel for what they're trying to do, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know their aggressive defense, so we'll be aware of it

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<v Speaker 1>and be ready to you know, make them pay. When

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<v Speaker 1>we catch them in a blitz. The defense has to

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<v Speaker 1>contend with Lamar Jackson, who is likely to shatter the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL record for rushing yards back quarterback this year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on a pace for nearly thirteen hundred. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of how the defense could possibly prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>the Lamar Jackson threat, and then it hit me, alex

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<v Speaker 1>Erics great running quarterback in high school. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches would ever consider having you do some of

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson stuff at practice? Can you do that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're working on what you need to work on? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough, obviously the amount of reps and the volume

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting practice, so you know it's it's probably not likely,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he's definitely. He's definitely a guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>unique to prepare for. And his ability to run the

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<v Speaker 1>football and his ability to make plays with the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in his hands, and um, he's anique talent and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not been a ton of guys like him throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the years of the NFL. And he's definitely put on

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<v Speaker 1>a show. Last thing. Ravens quarterback Sam Cook claims to

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<v Speaker 1>have thirteen versions of punts, a hook, a slice, a knuckler,

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<v Speaker 1>a high one line drive. Whatever. Are his punts more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to catch than other guys, Well, he just got

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<v Speaker 1>a variation of punts and he hides, he hides his

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<v Speaker 1>direction and where he's punding it by doing different variations.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's always he's always hard to read. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just go back. There are always punting left. Just

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<v Speaker 1>line up left and be ready to catch it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like I said, it might come end over end,

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<v Speaker 1>it might come a liner, he might hang it up,

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<v Speaker 1>he might um. Yeah, So he definitely has a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the guys that has been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and a guy that's really I probably

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<v Speaker 1>changed a lot of punting in the NFL, the way

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<v Speaker 1>guys are doing a whole bunch of different things with

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<v Speaker 1>the ball now, and his control on the plus fifties

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<v Speaker 1>short punts and his ability to pin us back there.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's definitely a unique talent. It's always a

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<v Speaker 1>challenge preparing for him, and you know, game day, you

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<v Speaker 1>never know what you're gonna get. Do you know? He

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<v Speaker 1>was Zach Taylor's college teammate. He's that old. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reading that last thing we played him a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago. Uh yeah, that's that's pretty crazy. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your time, best luck this week, thank you, not time

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's no. The faux interview is we do

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<v Speaker 1>a deep dive into the Bengals upcoming opponent. The storyline

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore is that this might be the biggest trap

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<v Speaker 1>game in NFL history, since the Ravens are coming off

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<v Speaker 1>a win over the eight no Patriots before facing the

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<v Speaker 1>O and eight Bengals. Baltimore is favored by ten and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens have never lost when favored by double digits.

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<v Speaker 1>They're thirty three and oh. Luke Jones covers the Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens and joined Lap and Wayne box Miller on the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Game Plan Show. The first topic of conversation the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of Baltimore taking the Bengals lightly. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they said all the right things this week. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens cornerback Jimmy Smiths, who is one of the elder

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<v Speaker 1>statesmen on this team, basically said, look, we just were

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<v Speaker 1>coming off two really good wins. But if we go

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<v Speaker 1>and lay an egg on Sunday, what does it really mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think recent history you guys know very well,

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<v Speaker 1>save four a couple years ago that season opener in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens haven't won there very often. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been quite a while where the Bengals have really taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of business at home against the Ravens. And I

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 1>think the thing that helps them is also just a

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago. Even though you look at the stat

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>sheet from a yarded standpoint and look at the numbers,

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty heavy in favor of the Ravens, but

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a six point game, and certainly that that

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>opening kickoff return for the touchdown. You'd like to think

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>from the Ravens perspective that the Bengals coming in and

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>playing the Ravens tough on the scoreboard anyway, that should

0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>be a big enough reminder. But you guys know this

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>is a crazy league and Cincinnati, despite its record, you

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>guys have been in a lot of close games. So

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I think a John Harball team, you know, a well

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>coached football team like John Harball has year in and

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>year out, the message is gonna be hit home many

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>times over the course of this week, not to be

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.360
<v Speaker 1>taken anyone lightly, because you know this league can turn

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>very quickly to your point on the yards Luke Florida

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.879
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven yards for the Ravens Jordan fifty. That's the

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>season low for the Ravens defense holding an offense to

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>joining fifty yards the time of possession thirty nine minutes

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and forty two seconds to twenty minutes and eighteen seconds.

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 1>They basically doubled them up in yards and double them

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>up in time of possession. I mean it is basically

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 1>double them up in yards and double them up in

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:21.840
<v Speaker 1>time of possession. I mean it is remarkable. The reason

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it was a one score game is because of the

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>unconventional score the kickoff return. It really wasn't. And the

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>other thing I'll point out in that game, which I

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.200
<v Speaker 1>think you know, Bengals fans can maybe take a little

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>bit of optimism with, is if you were calling that game,

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 1>they did a nice job against mark Ingram and the

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Ravens between the tackles, running game for the first three quarters.

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until that final quarter with the Ravens just

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of do what they did. They had I believe

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a nine minute drive in that fourth quarter ended in

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 1>a Justin Tucker field goal. But as I say, weekend

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and week out with this Ravens offense, whatever you try

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to do, whether you try to take away the between

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the tackle stuff, whether you try to take Lamar Jackson

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>away on the edge, although people can try to do

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>that and I haven't seen too many teams be successful there,

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>or if you just try to load up the box

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and make Lamar's throw. There's a hidden cost to any

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>possible way you try to defend this offense. So as

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>much as the Bengals did well between the tackles through

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the first three quarters, of course you see what Lamar

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Jackson did getting to the edge, and that's what just

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>makes this offense so difficult to defend. But I'll say this,

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and this was a talking point with John Harball today,

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have seen Lamar Jackson a couple times down.

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of the great question around the

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>league in the big picture, as you see him in

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>this offense more and more, I equated to baseball, where

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you have that one hundred mile per hour pitcher who

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>also has a nasty slider. First couple times to get

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>up to the plate, you're not gonna have a chance.

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe a couple more times through the order, maybe you

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>get a little better idea. But I think that's going

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to be a tall challenge for the Bengals. Well, let's

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>hope you've done an approach to light coal from the

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Astrols did on and run he had this year in baseball?

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>What about the Baltimore Faithful? Do they believe in Lamar Jackson? Now?

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Obviously there was a mixed emotion when he was drafted,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and then last year, well he had some good games,

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>it was just an aberration. Now he's playing at an

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>MVP level for the most part. He had a couple

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>of bad games against Cleveland and Pittsburgh, but the total

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>body of work this year has been impressive. Do people

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 1>really think now that he can deliver the goods at

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that position? I really think. I think you're seeing more

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and more and more believers every single week. I think

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 1>there's still concern about his style of play as far

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>as sustainability, and more so probably from a health standpoint.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Although as you guys know, we've seen somebody quarterbacks get

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>injured from the pocket. I think it's just the balls

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>in your hand. There's a risk to be injured on

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>any single play. I mean, we just know that about

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>this game. But I think in terms of what he's doing.

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I think the intangibles. I think the fact that one

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>of the big knocks on him last year was his

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>ball security. He had at least one fumble in every

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>single start. This year, he's been credited with four fumbles,

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 1>but a couple of those are actually bad snaps. The

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>quarterback just got credit for the fumble. He has not

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>lost the fumble. He's only thrown five interceptions, so he's

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>making plays while also valuing the football in terms of

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>ball security, and that's really rare for young quarterbacks. Even

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield last year he was a toast to the

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>league as a rookie quarterback. He still threw a lot

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>of interceptions. So I think people are believing more and more.

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And I'll just say this from an intangible standpoint, from

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>an energy standpoint, this is as energetic and excited as

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 1>this Stan base has been since the days of Ray

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Lewis and and Edgared. No disrespect to Joe Flacco or

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>some other veterans boot one in recent years, but just

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the smart at the face of the franchise that Lamar

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>is rapidly becoming. I just haven't seen that really with

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens with any offensive player they've ever had. I mean,

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>this has been a defense first down and it just

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>he just got that vibe to him that remind you

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I'm saying he's gonna be a Hall

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of Famer, but remind you a little bit of the

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>way Ray Lewis and Ed Reid to oomanize the city

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>way back when Luke, I agree with you that I think.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I think when you look at Jackson, there was a

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>running back the Bengals had years ago, James Brooks under

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>size running back, but he would make people miss in

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>space and then you know, run away from He had

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>that short space quickness. Jackson, even if you have him contained,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>he'll make you miss. And I said to James Brooks

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that said, you know your size, JB. Everybody's saying, man,

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get destroyed. You're not gonna be able to last.

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not a sustainable thing. He goes, look, the good Lord,

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>bless me with this physical talent. If I take a

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>flush hit, that's on me. And he would make every

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>blow a glancing blow. He never got drill. He never

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>get hit right down the middle, and you know it

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>would always be like a partial shot. And that's what

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>this kid can do and then he'll slide, he'll get

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>out of bounds. He's smart. I agree with you. I

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>think his biggest danger, like any quarterback, you know, look

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Jacobi Wasset, you know, in the pocket,

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>gets stepped on and you know, get knee injuries, ankle injuries,

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of thing. I think if he gets

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>caught in a pile in the running game, or he

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>gets caught in a pile, you know, in the pocket.

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's the same for any quarterback. I think

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the sustainability thing, he's so athletic, I don't. I don't

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna be a big, big part of the problem.

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I really don't. Yeah, I'm believing that more and more

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>to the more I watch him play, and I've watched

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>every single start, every single play going back to last November.

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>The number of hard hits he's taken where you're holding

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>your breath, you could probably count on a couple of hands.

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean a few in back that Cincinnati game a

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago. I thought a couple of those hits

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>were some of the bigger hits he's taken all year.

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>But the difference this year, he's sliding a little bit more.

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely showing more of a willingness to go out

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>of bound. Last year there were times where he would

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>lower his shoulder like Jim Round. It's just like, that's

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>not what we want and unless you're playing in January.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think he just has that ability and he

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>just he has this I don't know, his agility almost

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>reminds you of a great point guard in basketball, where

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he just he can find the little seaman. He's really

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>slippery in addition to just being fast, and I mean,

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess you know, the critics could say it only

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>takes one hit, and that's true, but I don't know,

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you think about it in terms of would you rather

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback standing in the pocket like a statue and

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>someone crashes into his knee like happened to Joe Flacco

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>four years ago and towards acl or you have this

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>guy who's so quick, so tough to catch him, he's

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>so agile and change the direction where he can kind

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of dictate what kind of contact he's going to take,

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and to this point it's worked out really well for him.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you want to switch to defense before we

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>let you go and talk about one guy I think

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>has just really served you guys well as a first

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>round pick is Humphrey the defensive back. He just seems

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to be a playmaker. Obviously, Ed Reid is the ultimate

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>playrker Rud. I mean, this guy holds his own at

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the defensive back position and just continues to play well.

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>He Marlin Humphrey has played extremely well. I mean, if

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>he's not in the Pro Bowl this year, and I

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>think by Merritt, he probably could have made it last year,

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>but wasn't a household name around the league. But I

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>think with some of the big splash players you've seen

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>him make this year, that's changing. But I think what's

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>been impressive with him is the Ravens lost Tavon Young,

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>their slot cornerback, in August to a neck issue that

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>required kurt that they've lost him for the year. They

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>have Jimmy Smith back from the injury. Marcus Peters, who

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>they picked up two weeks before the trade Deadvine is

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>their other outside corner. Humphreys actually been playing in the slot,

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>which he had been an outside guy, and a big

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>part of that has been him traveling with some of

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>these number one receivers, which as you guys know, number

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>one receivers playing the slot more and more it seems

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>in recent years. But he's really kind of become their

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>inside corner. I mean he starts and he's only outside

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>of her own base, which is very rare, but in

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that nickel and dime and quarter defense, he's kind of

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>been playing that flot and he is just the playmaker

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and not just as a coverage guy, but he plays

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the run really well too. He's kind of like a

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>he's almost like a hybrid safety, linebacker, corner, and he's

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely been their best defensive player. You know, I really

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>respect what they did. They've done offensively. You know, they

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>had Greg Roman, who's worked with Kaeperner and Tyrod Taylor,

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, to institute an offense for Lamar Jackson to

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of. I mean, they supported him not only

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>with personnel, but with the coach that knew how to

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>utilize this kid's talents, not try to put a square

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>peg in a round hole. And then defensively, what they've done.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>They got Brandon car Now, another defensive back who they

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>moved from corner to safety. They have him locking down

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>tight ends in their sub packages. They now they just

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>they'll blitch you like crazy. I mean when they played

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals the first time, they rushed five or more

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent of the time on the sea and

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>there in the high forty still rush five or more

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like forty six to forty eight percent. Against the Bengas

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>was seventy five percent. And then they'll play man. They'll

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>lock you down in man coverage with that blitz. It

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>used to be they had sugs and these pass rushers

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>they've rushed for and play coverage on the back end.

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Now it's just the opposite now, I mean, Martindale's just

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>blitz in his tail off for pressuring because he knows

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>he has these guys in the back end they can

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>lock down in coverage. Yeah, it really allows them to

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>dictate to the offense what they want to do, because

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>really they're two weaknesses and you just mentioned one. Whenever

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>there's the four man rush, they don't get home. And

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it's difficult to get home in the day and age

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>because quarterbacks just get the ball out so quick. Andy

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Dalton did that for years against them. So their four

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>man rush isn't what you'd like it to be. You

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>don't have that sugs, you don't have Zadarius Smith like

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>they did last year. And there are other weakness which

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>they've certainly improved because they've brought in Josh Bines and LJ. Ford,

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, someone very familiar to the AFC North, and

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>those guys have stabilized things that inside linebacker, but they're

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>not great coverage linebackers. So you're just mentioned it. With

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Carr, they put him in a safety Chuck Clark

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<v Speaker 1>use of their strong safety they dropped down to play

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<v Speaker 1>the mic. And they've played plenty of plays over the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks where they don't have a single traditional linebacker.

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<v Speaker 1>With having Brandon Williams and Michael Pierce up front, they've

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<v Speaker 1>they've been fined in the run game when they do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're just they're multiple, they're very different, and the

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<v Speaker 1>weaknesses that they do have, they seem to scheme as

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<v Speaker 1>well as you can. Tom maybe not eliminate those weaknesses,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly alleviate them. I think as an organization, Ozzie

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<v Speaker 1>Knewsom and now DaCosta and Harbaugh, they they've basically make

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<v Speaker 1>their schemes fit their personnel, not the other way around.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it's like, you can't You can't just say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna take this guy and I'm gonna play make

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>him do this even if it doesn't fit his talents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. They always will adjust and shift. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>great bum Philip said about Don Shula, he take his

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and and beat your arn. He could take a urin

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<v Speaker 1>and beat his n because he would have adjust and adapt.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean when he had Zonkin kick, you know, formation,

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you would big people run the heck out of it.

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Dan Marino spread you out to throw the heck out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I mean, you have to be adaptable and

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>adjust to things. And the Ravens organization offensively and defensively

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>has done it as well as anybody. Yeah, they really have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think with John Harball specifically as much as

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<v Speaker 1>what was the big criticism about him when he was hired, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't an offensive or defensive coordinator. Well right, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't that lend itself to being more flexible. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have and he even talked about this recently,

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about this after they drafted Lamar Jackson. He didn't

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>have an offensive he was married too, And yeah, they

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>ran the West Coast offense for a number of years. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, from the time Gary Kubiak came in and

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<v Speaker 1>that was Flacco's best regular season performance in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just kind of said, look, we can try

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<v Speaker 1>to find the next Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, or

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<v Speaker 1>here's this kid who has some really special traits and

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>we love them at an athlete, we love him as

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<v Speaker 1>a person. We think he's a winner. He's been successful

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<v Speaker 1>at the collegiate level. Let's design something new, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>something different and play into his strengths. And hey, there's

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<v Speaker 1>still a long way to go and time will tell

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<v Speaker 1>whether Lamar Jackson leads the Ravens to a super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>but being an MVP candidate in his first four year

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<v Speaker 1>as a starter, there's certainly a lot a lot of

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>growing confidence that he'll be able to do that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not this year, but at some point here in the

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