1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: here with Cliff Don Brown. Thank you for stepping in, Cliff, appreciate. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: It, No no problem. Ron always good to talk to 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: you guys. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh so we're gonna break down the 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: biggest news from this past weekend. As we all know, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: it's a busy time of year with free agency, and 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: we're I don't know, what do you think, Cliff? Is 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: this a second wave? Are we on the back end 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: of the first wave? 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: What's this cop thing? Yeah, I'm gonna go beginning a 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: second wave. 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: Beginning a second wave. 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, right, So the Ravens had a nice ride on 15 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the first wave. They got up on that board, they 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: were surfing it, got DeAndre Hopkins, got Ronnie Stanley, deal done, 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Tyler Wallace, you know, some other moves, agreed to and 18 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: signed our guy pat Riccard who joined the pod. So 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: I think a successful, successful ride on the first wave, 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: and now we're into the second and the Ravens crossed 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: off a couple order a couple other orders of business 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend and namely reportedly agreed to a deal 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush, the backup quarterback and. 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: This is this is a big deal. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens have not really spent much at backup quarterback 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: and this is a reported two year deal that is 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 1: a six point two million dollar deal according to Jeff's 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: three Back with a maximum value of twelve point two 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: million based on a bunch of incentives, playing times, starts, wins, 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: all those kind of things. So, Cliff, what was your 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: reaction to the Cooper Rush deal. 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: Definitely thought it was interesting and a move that strengthens 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: a roster. We know that they've been fortunate with Lamar 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: in the last couple of years with his health, but 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: we also know there have been years where you know, 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: he has missed time and you know, Ravens are a 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender, and if you get into a situation 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: where you were to lose Lamar for you know, three 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: four games you have, he wants someone who you can 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: win with and those games are very important trying to 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: you know, keep the momentum alive or you know, win 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: games for playoff seeding, divisional race. Cooper Rush of the 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: guy who's been there, done that. He's proven that he 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: can win games in the NFL with a team that 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, Frankly, I don't think he'll have more talent 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: around him now in Baltimore top to bottom than he 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: did in Dallas, So you don't have to worry about 48 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: whether this guy can come in if he has to 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: and you know, keep the ship moving offensively. So yeah, 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: obviously he's a guy that the Ravens thought that was 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: worthy of going out and getting. And yeah, I think 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: it's definitely a move that strengthens a fifty three man roster. 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, Cooper Rush over his career, 54 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: has a record of nine and five, right, so in 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: fourteen career starts. So I think that this is a 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: player that obviously has proven he can win, right, and 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks do not come cheap around around the NFL, 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the reason why the 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Ravens really have not spent big money on this the 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: past couple of years. But I think that looking at 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: the terms of the deal, the reported terms, two years, 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: six point two million, that seems like a really good deal. 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: And then obviously if if he plays a significant amount, 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: then it increases. But you know, the Ravens are not 65 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: a team that really want to spend a ton of 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: money so to get a guy like Rush, who has 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: been a winner, who has played well in those games. 68 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: It's not like he's just been propped up. I mean 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns to ten interceptions. You know, he's completed over 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: sixty percent of his passes. And so here's an experienced 71 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: guy that I think to your point, you know, and 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: anytime we talk about backups, I feel like you got 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: to knock on wood and you know, if Lamar were 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to go down, he is somebody that can can step 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: in and make some plays, right cause it's it's that's 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: really what it's about. If Lamar were to go down, obvious, 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: see the offense changes. There's nobody that plays the game 78 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson. Right the offense changes, it probably becomes 79 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: more run heavy. You're not asking the quarterback to do 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: nearly as much as you would be asking Lamar Jackson 81 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: to do, not even close. But can he make plays 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: when he needs to? Can he make those throws? Cooper 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: Rush has done that over his career, right And I 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: think that the Ravens they're a team that when you 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: look at that all the talent they have, you know, 86 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: they had the most Pro Bowlers in the league last year. 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: When you look at the talent they have offensively, defensively, 88 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be right back in the hunt this year. 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: And I think that when you have a team like that, 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: you want to get some insurance because if the worst 91 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: case scenarios happens, or not even necessarily the worst case scenario, 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: but if something bad happens, let's say your starter gets injured, 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: then like you have enough talent to still make a run. 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I think, right at least challenge And so I think 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,239 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush gives you that a bit. 96 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, I agree with all that. And he 97 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: also talking about making plays. You also want your backup 98 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: quarterback to avoid the big mistakes when you get put 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: in that position, Obviously you want to help the team win. 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: All these guys are competitors, and so the backup quarterback 101 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: comes in. He wants to make a play, and sometimes 102 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: he tries to do too much and he hasn't had 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 2: a lot of playing time, which leads to mistakes. Cooper 104 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: Rush has shown that in addition to making plays, he's 105 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: not a guy who makes a ton of mistakes, turns 106 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: the ball over. He gives you, as you said, a 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: chance to win. So for a contender, the backup quarterback 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: position is more important to me than it is. If 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: you're not, I mean, your starting quarterback gets hurt, you're 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: a five hundred team, then well yeah, you bring in 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: the backup. You hope he plays well, but he still 112 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: may not be enough to get you into the playoffs. 113 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: For a team like the Ravens, when Lamar Jackson's healthy, 114 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: the Ravens are a definite playoff team. If he misses 115 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: some time, you still want the Ravens to be able 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs and hope that maybe Lamar could 117 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: be able to come back during the postseason. So Cooper 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: Rush is the type of quarterback that fits where the 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: Ravens are right now and where they have been for 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: a long time, a Super Bowl contender. If something happens 121 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: to the starter, you can have him come in and 122 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: win a few games and keep the ship moving. 123 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I really like this mow for the Ravens. 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: And we had talked about the backup quarterback and Josh Johnson, 125 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: and you know, would the Ravens just bring Josh Johnson 126 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: back and or what would they would do there? You know, 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: I think eventually, you know, Josh Johnson's going to turn 128 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: thirty nine in May and so as much as I 129 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: think this team values Lamar, likes Josh, the coaches like Josh. 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Josh has had a great career. You know, He's been 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: a number of places in Gosh, He's had a long, 132 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: successful career. Right, But eventually you knew that you had 133 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: to make a move there, and and you know, eventually 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: kind of had to rip that band aid off, and 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens decided, hey, Cooper Rush was, as they always say, 136 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: right player, right price. So I thought a good move 137 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. The other move of the weekend, and 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: this one came as a surprise to you. I think 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: a number of people with the Ravens brought back Ben 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland and so Cliff, you know, were you surprised? 141 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: What was your initial reaction. 142 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: I was a little surprised, just because you know, Ben 143 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: did you know, not win a starting job last year, 144 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: had been here for a while, he was a free agent. 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: You know, you wonder if somebody else is going to 146 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: if he's gonna latch on with someone else, But you 147 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: know now that he is coming back, Yeah, I think 148 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: it makes sense and that obviously he knows the system. 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: The Ravens I think have felt and still believed that 150 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: there there's more to get out of Ben in Cleveland, 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: that he's not a guy who's still young, that he 152 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: hasn't really fulfilled his potential yet, and that they could 153 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: maybe get something out of him. He's he's a huge guys. 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: We all know they like big offensive linemen. He can 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: play multiple spots. This is going to be interesting to see. 156 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's given another chance now to compete. I 157 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: mean this time last year, I think most people thought 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: he was going to be, you know, the starting right 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: guard in twenty twenty four. It didn't pan out that way. 160 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: So we'll see. He's been a starter before. He's actually 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: played pretty well when he's gotten a chance to start. 162 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: It's just been a matter of consistency with him. So 163 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: we'll see what he does with this opportunity. I would 164 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: think that he's glad to get another opportunity with the Ravens. 165 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: He knows that he's kind of he's at a crossroads 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: in his career and that this is a huge year 167 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: for him, just like last year was a huge year. 168 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: So he's been given another opportunity. He'll begin to see 169 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: what he does with it. 170 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: Yep, for me, it's three things won the Ravens needed 171 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: guard depth, right They lost Patrick McCarey in free agency, 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: Josh Jones departed in free agency. They really don't currently 173 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: they didn't have any guard depth behind your projected starters 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: and Daniel file a lele at right guard and then 175 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: the favorite certainly at left guard, Andrew Vorhees. 176 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: So you need to just need a depth there. 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: And you know, I certainly expect that the Ravens are 178 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: going to address guard at some point in the draft. 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: With eleven picks, they could take two offensive linemen. You know, 180 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: they could take a guard, tackle, they could take as 181 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: strictly a guard, they could do both. 182 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 3: And so but. 183 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Even even with that, even if you drafted somebody, let's 184 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: just say, even in as high as a third route whatever, like, 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: even if you made a fairly highish pick, you still 186 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: need more depth there. And I think veteran depth, because 187 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to just be totally young along your 188 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: backup offensive line. So somebody that's played he also got 189 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: experienced last offseason. Really for much of the summer he 190 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: played tackle. I think that verse fatility really really helps 191 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: him and is also another feather in his cap and 192 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: reason why the Ravens want to come back, because it's 193 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: not just that you need depth at guard, it's also 194 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: a backup tackle, right because McCarey was kind of the 195 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Swiss Army knife. He was your your third offensive tackle too, 196 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: so and Josh Jones leaving, he was again another guy 197 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: who played at tackle, So I think that also helped 198 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: with bringing back Bank Cleveland. 199 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: Definitely. So yeah, I mean all those points I agree 200 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: with it you mentioned, and again I just feel that 201 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: this opportunity is something that you know, he's going to 202 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: want to take advantage of. It's a bit interesting to 203 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: see with what you mentioned. Even if he's in competition, 204 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: which he will be, he'll have an experience edge probably 205 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: over the guys he's competing with now to have a 206 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: roster spot or you know, to get in the lineup. 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: So will he take advantage of that, Will the potential 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: that he's that has, will that finally come to fruition. 209 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. He'll be a guy. It'll be interesting 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: watched throughout the off season to see if, yeah, if 211 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: he seems like now that he's it's starting to click 212 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: for him. Yep. 213 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: The other big news of the weekend and was that 214 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens picked up According to Jeff's reback of the 215 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: athletic Mark Andrews four million dollar roster bonus triggered on 216 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: the fifth day of the new league year, which was 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: over the weekend, So the Ravens picked up that that 218 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: roster bonus. You know, I think there's obviously been a 219 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of speculation about Mark Andrews, and and with his 220 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: contract being what it is, you know, being I believe 221 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: it's the fourth highest on the team, you know, was 222 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: what was his future here? And obviously this is a 223 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, franchise leader, uh and somebody that one day 224 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: might very well go into the Ravens Ring of honor. 225 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: And I think that this certainly shows the fact that 226 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: the Ravens did not make a move there shows that, hey, 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: we're better with Mark Andrews, right, no. 228 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: Question, no question. I mean Mark, you know, he's going 229 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: to go down now, you know, as you know, a 230 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: guy who's who's a ring of honor type, guy of 231 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: one of their you know, top of the line players 232 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: already and he's he's far from done. And yeah, I 233 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: think that Mark, you know, thinking about last year. You know, 234 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: I did a story on Mark before last season started. 235 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: I spoke to his mom and I don't even think 236 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: I used this quote from her, but I asked her 237 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: something like, well, what's something you know? I've known Mark 238 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: for a while. Now tell me something about him that 239 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. And she said, I don't think he'll 240 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: think people realize how much he loves his teammates, how 241 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: much he loves them, that he loves being a Raven. 242 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: He's been here since twenty eighteen. The relationships he's formed 243 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: with people like Lamar, you know, Ronnie Stanley, pat Riccard, 244 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey. These guys are you know guys they say, 245 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, you go to war with. They're his buddies, 246 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: his his guys who he's you know, had ups and 247 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: downs with. And they're all still in quest of that 248 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: super Bowl. Ring guys who came in with his year 249 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: and before so you know the way last year ended. 250 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: There's been so much talk for good reason about you know, 251 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: that last game in Buffalo. You know how wild affect Mark. 252 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: You know that he wants to come back and help 253 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: this team win a super Bowl, that he has unfinished business. 254 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: He's a great player, tremendous competitor. I don't know of 255 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: any raven who works harder, is more intense, and I 256 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: just feel like, yeah, it's it's right for him to 257 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: come back, that he's going to give you everything he's got. 258 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: I think he could have a better year this year. 259 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: I thought that last year him coming on late in 260 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: the season was not a coincidence, that that ankle injury 261 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: was very severe, that he had a couple of seasons ago. 262 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: I think that the longer season went last year year, 263 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: he actually felt better. And so I feel that next year, 264 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: a year removed from that ankle injury, he could have 265 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: one of his best seasons. So I think it's a 266 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: good thing for the Ravens that he's back. They obviously 267 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: have a great tight end room and he's still a 268 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: big part of it. 269 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think all of us want to 270 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: see Mark win it all here. I mean we want 271 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: to win it all, period. But for a guy like 272 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Mark who's been here since the beginning of the Lamar 273 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Jackson era, you know, came in with Lamar in that 274 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: same draft class in twenty eighteen and has poured his 275 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: heart and soul into the game and into his team 276 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: and his teammates like and especially the way last year ended, 277 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, that was a tough that was a tough 278 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: ending in Buffalo for Mark in particular. 279 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: And I think you don't. 280 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: You don't want to see it end like that, certainly 281 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: for a guy, especially like Mark and all that he 282 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: stands for. 283 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: And I would. 284 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than to see Mark come 285 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: back and just absolutely ball out next year and take 286 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: help help take the Ravens' the super Bowl. 287 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: That would be. That's how like the Mark Andrews story 288 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: is supposed to go, you know what I mean? 289 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: Right well, whoever another chance to do just that, And 290 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: like I mentioned, you know, I feel like he's still 291 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: in his prime. I think another the third year with 292 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: in Monkin's offense, I expect I'm expecting really big things 293 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: in the Ravens offense next season. You know. I like 294 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: the DeAndre Hopkins move. I like the continuity of Todd 295 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: Monkin coming back as offensive coordinator. So yeah, I think 296 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: that you know, all those weapons that the Ravens have, 297 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: they help each other, and you know, I say it 298 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: likely is still blossoming as a tight end as it's 299 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: Charlie Kohler. But yeah, Mark is the lead guy there 300 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: still in my opinion, and I feel like, yeah, next year, 301 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: coming off of the way last year ended. If there's 302 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: any way for him to be more determined than he 303 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: already has been, he will be. He will be all right. 304 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: We'll take a break. Can When we come back, we'll 305 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: talk about big news from around the AFC North as 306 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: well as get to one of your emails. Thank you 307 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: for listening to the Lounge, for coming to you from 308 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: the Seat Geek Studio. We also want our listeners to 309 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: know that this week, the Draftking Sportsbook, an official sports 310 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens, has a limited time 311 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: offer you won't want to miss. Download the Draftking sports 312 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Book at now and use code flock. 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The Cincinnati Bengals have reportedly, according to 319 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Schultz, agreed to deals with both of their big 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: time wide receivers Jamar Chase five years, one hundred and 321 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: eighty two point eight million dollars that makes him the 322 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: highest paid non quarterback in the league. And then also 323 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver t Higgins a deal that can be worth 324 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: over thirty million dollars per year with incentives, so a 325 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: big that's a four year deal. It's four years, one 326 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen million for Tea. So two huge contracts 327 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: for their two huge wide receivers. 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I think everybody assumed Chase was going 329 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: to get his bag, you know, to be able to 330 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: keep Higgins as well. I mean, yeah, now you know, 331 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Burrow Higgins and Chase they're gonna be together for you know, 332 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: the bulk of their careers, which means the Bengals offense 333 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: is going to be you know, tough to deal with 334 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: for the for the next few years as they have been. 335 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's a big move by the 336 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: Bengals and they'll be interesting to see, you know. Now 337 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: on the defensive side, are they able to improve their defense? 338 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: Everybody knows they have a high powered offense, but down 339 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: there's reports that they're trying to still keep Trey Hendrickson 340 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: after making these two deals, So that'll be something to 341 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: watch and how the Bengals manage now their cap situation 342 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: and adding players now that they've signed these two you know, 343 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: very talented receivers long term along with Joe Burrow. Interesting 344 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: to see how they make it all fit. But yeah, 345 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean change. I think we knew that was going 346 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: to happen. And now Higgins, who's been under the tag 347 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, he's locked up as well. 348 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, it remains I haven't seen 349 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: the contract details that spell out what this cap savings 350 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: is for this year. I'll be interested to see how 351 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: does this impact you know, the Bengals had they cleared 352 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of cap space already, So does this help 353 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: them get more business done this year? I mean obviously 354 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: when you pay him, you know, Jamar Chase T. Higgins 355 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow, what's it mean for down the line? 356 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: And if you get a deal done with Hendrickson like 357 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about, you can only give so many guys 358 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: the top of the market money and or top five 359 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: money and still build a competitive roster elsewhere, right, Like, 360 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: how does this impact they better draft well on defense? 361 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, so it'll be. 362 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Interesting down the line, But I'm more intrigued by seeing 363 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: what's this What does this do for the twenty twenty 364 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: five Bengals and how they're able to work those contracts 365 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: to give them themselves some space to breathe this year? 366 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: Right, I mean yeah, they they were not you know, 367 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: good enough defensively last year. That's that's what caused them 368 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: a playoff spot. They started slowly, but even when they 369 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: weren't winning games, they were scoring. But they just couldn't 370 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: stop anyone last year. And yeah, long term, you know, yeah, 371 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: are they going to be able to build a team 372 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: around those you know, really shiny pieces they have at 373 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: the top. So we'll say it's going to be interesting 374 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: to watch. But yeah, certainly getting those two, particularly Higgins, 375 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: that was something even a lot of people thought Higgins 376 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: eventually they'd have to let them go. They decided that 377 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: they were going to make the able the commitment to 378 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: him as well. 379 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. So. 380 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: And then lastly, we have an email here from our listeners. 381 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: As always, you can read just at the lounge at 382 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: ravenst NFL dot net. This one comes from Donald Quigley 383 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: and he says last year the Ravens had success with 384 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: their top two picks, but the rest of the picks, 385 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: played very few offensive or defensive snaps. I've read lots 386 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: about the needs for the twenty twenty five drafts, citing linebacker, cornerback, 387 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and safeties, with no mention of those four 388 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: positions where we drafted last year. Even considering some lost 389 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: time to injury, the results weren't there. Is there any 390 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: one of the of the really any one of them? 391 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Are they expected to be really good this year or ever? 392 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for your insight, Don Quigly. So you look at 393 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens, Avis, they nailed their top two draft picks 394 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: with Nate Wiggins and Roger Roseen Gunrin for last year, 395 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: and you know he's right, like the guys behind them 396 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't have a big impact as rookies. Ads Isaac was 397 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: injured for much of the year. Devon tes Walker, you know, 398 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: with all the offensive weapons the Ravens had, really didn't 399 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: get much time. Had one catch, although it was a 400 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: nice one, a touchdown catch. TJ Tampa cornerback, dealt with 401 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: injuries for much of the year. Rashina a Lee injuries, 402 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Devin Leary didn't see much time. Nick Samak same Sanousi 403 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Kane actually played a fair amount the seventh. Their final pick. 404 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Safety was a pretty a good special teamer and played 405 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean he played him fifteen games and 406 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: he played seventy six percent of the special team stamps. 407 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: So that that pick has so far worked out pretty 408 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: darn well, Cliff, what do you make of that class, 409 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: the rising sophomores and whether they can contribute and how 410 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: much they can contribute this year? 411 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, sir, you wouldn't turn into final verdict yet. 412 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely think it. Des Isaac is going 413 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: to get every opportunity to be a guy who can 414 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: contribute to them on defense, the pass rush, you know, 415 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: only it's really he'll be kind of like a rookie 416 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: this year in my opinion, and yeah, he's got talent. 417 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes definitely takes pass rushers a few years to develop, 418 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: so certainly we got to just see how he continues 419 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: to grow. Teses Walker, I mean, yeah, didn't play a 420 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: lot on offense last year, but again another young player. 421 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: He's certainly in a room that's very talented, which you know, 422 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: if he's smart, he'll use that to his vange and 423 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: you know, learning from those guys, seeing how they go 424 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: about their business. I think that he's still, you know, 425 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: I don't think he lost any confidence last year tes Walker, 426 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: and now I think it's a good sign that, you know, 427 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: when he got that opportunity, it wasn't too big for him. 428 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: So I just feel like you got to be a 429 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 2: little more patient with this class when you come. When 430 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: you're a rookie coming to a team, it's talented as 431 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: a Raven and it's hard to get playing time unless 432 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: they are coming through positions has been vacated by someone else. 433 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: So a lot of guys they drafted the next two 434 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: or three years may not get a lot of playing 435 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: time with the offense or the defense, and they're gonna 436 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: have to kind of just in practice, you know, and 437 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: with more experience be ready when their turn comes. So 438 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: don't give up on the class yet. It's still too early. 439 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just feel that all these guys, some 440 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: of these guys to TJ. Tamp and other guys who 441 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: suffer the injuries, if they can just stay healthy, that's 442 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: really key for young players to stay healthy, get practice reps, 443 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: gain some confidence. I think you'll see a couple of 444 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: these guys pop in the next year or two. 445 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you go back through the Ravens draft history, and 446 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of players that didn't make a 447 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: huge impact in year one that eventually came on to 448 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: be not only starters, but really good players. I mean, 449 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: to go back, Dennis Pitta had one catch in his 450 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: rookie year, I think for negative one yard. He got 451 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: blown up and caught the ball, got blown up in 452 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: the backfield, ended up having a pretty darn good career, right, 453 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: And I mean that's going back a little ways, but 454 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: there there is a log on his long history. I mean, 455 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: Travis Jones more recently, he didn't have a huge role 456 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: as a rookie. Now he's one of the NFL's more 457 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: dominant defensive tackles. Daniel fil Alele, same thing, he's a starter. 458 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Tavia's Robinson, fourth round pick, didn't really play a whole 459 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: lot as a rookie and kind of came on more 460 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: as a sophomore, and so well Tavia's. Tavia's had actually 461 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: a decent amount of snaps. But I mean, I think 462 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: he's made more of an impact certainly in year two 463 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: and will in year three. So you got to remain patient. 464 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: I think that especially a player like Odessa Isaac. I 465 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: thought he actually when he was on the field. I 466 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: thought he flashed. I thought he I was impressed with 467 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: what I saw from Adisa, and I think that this 468 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: will be a key year or two for him to 469 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of establish himself more in that rotation. 470 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: The Ravens have all those outside linebackers back, so it's 471 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: not like there's a huge role for him to step into, 472 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: but it'll be a rotation and I think this will 473 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: be a big year for him. 474 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: And then TJ. Tampa is a key depth piece. 475 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at cornerback right now, cornerbacks probably 476 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: at the top of the top or near the top 477 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: of the needs list, and I still do expect the 478 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: Ravens to sign a cornerback, whether that be bringing back 479 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: one of their own, like get your devious wait or 480 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: going out and get somebody. But right now, I mean 481 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: that third cornerback spot is a competition between TJ. Tampa 482 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: and Jalen Arbor Davis, so he could certainly get more reps, 483 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's a player the Ravens are really 484 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: excited to draft, So you got to remain patient and 485 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: also remember that maybe the most important offseason for NFL 486 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: player is after the rookie year between rookie year and 487 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: second year and their sophomore year because they know how 488 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: the NFL works now, they have the layout, they have 489 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: their feet under. 490 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: That first year is long. I mean you go from the. 491 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: College season to training for the Combine to the drafts 492 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: straight in the rookie mini camp OTAs like it is 493 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: a long, grueling kind of first year. And when you 494 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: get to now you have a little bit of experience, 495 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing a little bit, and you 496 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: have that full you have a break and then an 497 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: off season to train that get bigger, gets stronger in 498 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: the weight room, in the NFL program all summer long, 499 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: like that makes a big difference. And I think that 500 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: especially for somebody like a Deese, Isaac Even and tes Walker, TJ. Tampa, 501 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: like those guys, I think it'll make a big difference. 502 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: You know, that's a good point about you know, between 503 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: first and second year. This is kind of year we 504 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: expect some of these guys to make a jump. And yeah, 505 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: I mean I think that this year it'll have more 506 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: of an opportunity than last year to make an impact. 507 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean the Ravens, you know, their their drafts. 508 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: I think you know, have continued to be strong because 509 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: they do really, I think, really know how to try 510 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: and get guys to grow with them, find realize their 511 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: potential along the way. They don't give up on players quickly. 512 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: They really believe in the guys that they draft, They 513 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: coached them up, They give them opportunities. The Ravens are 514 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: a place where the best players do play, So you know, 515 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: any of these guys who do show flashes of improving 516 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: are going to get an opportunity to earn snaps. And yeah, 517 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: that draft class at the top, I mean obviously you 518 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: know what Rose Garden and Wiggins did. Yeah, that's not 519 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: the norm. I mean, kudos to them for being able 520 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: to step in and do what they did as rookies, 521 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: particularly to me. You know Rosengarden, I mean, you know, 522 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: he's a guy that they really needed to come through 523 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: at that spot. I give him a lot of credit 524 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: that it seemed like every week he was getting better. 525 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: Same with Wiggins. Seem like as the season went on, 526 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: people talk about hitting a rookie wall. They didn't. They 527 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: kept getting better. So the rook these rookies last year, 528 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: they have a lot of guys in there. Class are 529 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: two guys at the top of the class. They can 530 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: see how it's done, and I think you will see 531 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: more from that, you know class, that rookie class in 532 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. More contributions from them next year. 533 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Cool. 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