WEBVTT - Fried Egg Stories: The Massacre at Winged Foot

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<v Speaker 2>The Frida Egg requires a different technique. What you need

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<v Speaker 2>to do is actually square the face so it'll dig

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<v Speaker 2>down underneath that bad lie and propel that ball right

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<v Speaker 2>out onto the green. Here's the thing. Playing out of

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<v Speaker 2>a buried lion of bunker is completely different than playing

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<v Speaker 2>out of a nice, clean lion a greenside bunker.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to be aggressive on any shop, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>sitting cleanly or it's Frida Egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've all faithd it, the dreaded Frida Egg.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to be feared, though.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually a pretty easy shot to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you recording on your on your zoom i

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<v Speaker 1>am recorder?

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<v Speaker 3>It is rolling?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if we could just get started with the

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<v Speaker 1>with local rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Do you want me to say local rules? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>local rules. Do not take this book too seriously. It

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<v Speaker 3>is about grown men, most of whom are in a

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<v Speaker 3>living by swinging long sticks in small balls. In other words,

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<v Speaker 3>it is about golf, and golf is neither a microcosm

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<v Speaker 3>of nor a metaphor for life. My name is Jeremy Shapp.

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<v Speaker 3>I host a few shows at ESPN outside Lines in

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<v Speaker 3>the sixty and my father Dick Shapp, wrote a book

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<v Speaker 3>about the nineteen seventy four US Open at Wingfoot. The

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<v Speaker 3>name of the book has become synonymous with not only

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<v Speaker 3>that tournament, but also with the course of which always played.

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<v Speaker 3>The name of the book was Massacre Foot.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you? How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, let's see. I'm hayl Irwin, longtime PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 2>professional and an advocate of great golf for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So Wingfoot nineteen seventy four. Can you just tell me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about seeing and playing that course for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that week?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, try to put some of those nightmares away.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is Friday Egg Stories. I'm Garrett Morrison. Today

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<v Speaker 1>we go back to a time of woundcore balls and

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<v Speaker 1>persimmon headed drivers, the time when the USGA handed the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of its marquee event a check of thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars instead of two million. The nineteen seventy four

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<v Speaker 1>US Open, held at Wingfoot Golf Club has become a

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<v Speaker 1>touchstone in the debate over what a golf championship should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Depending on your perspective, It's either the US Open at

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<v Speaker 1>its best or the US Open at its worst. It's

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<v Speaker 1>now known as the Massacre at Wingfoot. That term comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the classic book by Dick Shapp, from which his

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<v Speaker 1>son Jeremy Shapp will be reading some passages in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, the National Championship returns to the West Course

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<v Speaker 1>at Wingfoot, So it feels like a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>consider what it means for a tournament venue to be

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<v Speaker 1>insane difficult, and what it takes to pass that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of test.

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<v Speaker 3>The attack upon Wingfoot is about to begin. One hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty men, the most gifted golfers in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>are about to assault the West course of the Wingfoot

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<v Speaker 3>Golf Club. It's a lovely site for a battle. Eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>holes of gently rolling greenery in Mamaroneck, New York, half

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<v Speaker 3>an hour's drive northeast of Manhattan, in the heart of

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<v Speaker 3>affluent suburbia.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen seventy four, Wingfoot Golf Club was over fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and the West course had already hosted two

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<v Speaker 1>US Opens and a US Amateur. The credentials of this

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<v Speaker 1>aw tilling House design were well established. So was it

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<v Speaker 1>a tilling House intention to build a tough championship course A.

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<v Speaker 5>One hundred percent from day one.

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<v Speaker 6>You might be aware of the famous quote that you said,

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<v Speaker 6>I was given a simple instruction, give us a man's

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<v Speaker 6>sized course.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Neil Reagan.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the historian at Wingfoot Golf Club.

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<v Speaker 1>And Neil is telling me about the first US Open

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<v Speaker 1>at Wingfoot West in nineteen twenty nine, when the course

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<v Speaker 1>was only a few years old. Going into the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper headlines had a theme.

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<v Speaker 6>Bobby Jones thinks it's going to be a great driving contest.

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<v Speaker 6>Wingfoot is called the most difficult course ever chosen. This

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<v Speaker 6>is the week before the US Open, not the week after.

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<v Speaker 1>During the Championship, the writer Obi Keeler was on the grounds.

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<v Speaker 6>Obi Keeler, you know, Obie Keiller was Bobby Jones's best

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<v Speaker 6>friend and biographer.

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<v Speaker 1>With him in the gallery was aw Telling Hast.

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<v Speaker 6>They met on the course and they talked, and they

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<v Speaker 6>watched a lot of golfers, and he had a classic

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<v Speaker 6>short article about it.

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<v Speaker 5>He says.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the most deeply interested spectators was a mister

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<v Speaker 6>A W. Telling Hast, a distinguished looking gentleman with a

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<v Speaker 6>carefully waxed mustache who was to be seen in all

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<v Speaker 6>parts of the golf course at all times, but not

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<v Speaker 6>at the same time, or something very much like omnipresence

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<v Speaker 6>Tilling Hast.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to the great deal of talking.

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<v Speaker 6>They say, it's a tough course. He said to me,

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<v Speaker 6>but you will notice that the scores of parr are

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<v Speaker 6>being made not too frequently.

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<v Speaker 5>It's true.

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<v Speaker 6>The man who scores par at Wingfoot will have shot

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<v Speaker 6>par golf if you know what I mean. Tilling has

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<v Speaker 6>rejoinder to one spectator's comment was a bit of a classic.

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<v Speaker 6>The spectator said, they're having a bit of trouble with

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<v Speaker 6>your golf course. I saw one fellow take three strokes

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<v Speaker 6>in the same bunker, and tilling hast said, possibly the

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<v Speaker 6>trouble is it with the bunkers.

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<v Speaker 1>After seventy two holes, Bobby Jones and al Espinoza were

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<v Speaker 1>tied at six. Over the next day, Jones beat Espinoza

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<v Speaker 1>in a thirty six hole playoff by twenty three strokes.

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<v Speaker 1>The greatest golfer of the era had won in dramatic fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>But not everyone was happy with the first wing Foot Open.

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<v Speaker 6>After the open, one newspaper column this wrote a very

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<v Speaker 6>long article saying it was too tricky.

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<v Speaker 5>It was too difficult to them.

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<v Speaker 6>They would hit the fairway and have to hit over

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<v Speaker 6>a bunker when they got on the green.

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<v Speaker 5>They had undulations on the green. It wasn't like other courses.

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<v Speaker 6>There were many other articles in the newspapers about how

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<v Speaker 6>difficult it was, how it was called the hardest course

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<v Speaker 6>in the country.

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, its reputation was there from day one.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I've heard is that the nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>US Open, where Johnny Miller shot sixty three in the

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<v Speaker 1>final round, famously had some influence on the severity of

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<v Speaker 1>the setup at Wingfoot. Do you think there's some truth

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<v Speaker 1>to that?

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent? One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Moulvoy was at Wingfoot in nineteen seventy four.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, my name is this Mark Moulvoy. In nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 4>I was one of the golf writers for Sports Illustrated,

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<v Speaker 4>well behind Dan Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 1>And you heard that the USGA was determined not to

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<v Speaker 1>give up another sixty.

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<v Speaker 4>Three and they're not going to do that again. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, hey, I can go set up wing Foot

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow myself where no one's going to break three hundred. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm serious, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Three hundred On the eve of the nineteen seventy four

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<v Speaker 3>US Open. Wingfoot is a sterner challenge than ever. The

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<v Speaker 3>course has been linked in Bunker's added trees, planted, all

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<v Speaker 3>the little touches that please the USGA and chill the

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<v Speaker 3>golfer who hopes to break.

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<v Speaker 1>Or equal par So, what made the USGA set up

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<v Speaker 1>of wing Foot in nineteen seventy four, so severe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>First, the course was playing as a par seventy of

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<v Speaker 1>six nine and twenty one yards, which wouldn't be long today.

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<v Speaker 1>But back then, and this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is nineteen seventy four, before we really had the advance

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<v Speaker 2>and technology and the equipment.

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<v Speaker 4>They played with ballata balls.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a golf ball that doesn't go as far.

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<v Speaker 4>They played with per simmon heads.

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<v Speaker 2>We're using wooded headed drivers.

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<v Speaker 4>I would bet that at that time that opened in

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<v Speaker 4>seventy for the head of a driver was probably one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred fifty or sixty see seeds. Today it's for sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have all the ingredients that today's players have

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of technology. Man like Arnold.

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<v Speaker 6>Palmer, who was very long, had struggles reaching the eighteenth

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<v Speaker 6>grade in two.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was a very long course.

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<v Speaker 2>For the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Second, if you missed fairways, you were in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was ay start with a relatively long golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, the rough was due for the any rough

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<v Speaker 2>that I have ever played my career.

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<v Speaker 4>Roof was too high. You couldn't do anything out of

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<v Speaker 4>the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>The grass did grow long, very long, and when I

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<v Speaker 2>say I went off to the side of the second green,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started pulling up grass and it did not

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<v Speaker 2>stop it about a foot. It kept going.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary play a shankd to shot on the fourteenth holl

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<v Speaker 4>from the left Roughee shanked a shot across the fairway.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you looked across Gary in the left rough

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<v Speaker 4>there you can always not see Gary because the roof

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<v Speaker 4>was so high, and Gary, of course is a diminutive

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<v Speaker 4>to say the least.

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<v Speaker 1>And third, once you managed to get to the green,

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<v Speaker 1>your work was far from over.

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<v Speaker 2>And once there, now you've got contours, and generally speaking

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<v Speaker 2>the greens might break a little bit from back to front,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of contours in between.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the greens were super fast for that era

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<v Speaker 6>seventy four open and went for uc balls. Trick went

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<v Speaker 6>past the cup and going another five and six feet,

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<v Speaker 6>and then a five or six foot quite A bare

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<v Speaker 6>foot is never a straight button never.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think most people when they play wing foot

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<v Speaker 2>will be surprised at how well you have to read

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<v Speaker 2>the greens to shoot any kind of acceptable score.

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<v Speaker 1>So really, what made wing foot such an exacting test

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy four was pretty simple. In order to

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<v Speaker 1>have much of a chance at par you had to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the green in regulation in order to have much

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<v Speaker 1>of a chance at hitting the green, and regulation you

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<v Speaker 1>had to drive it long and straight, hole after hole

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<v Speaker 1>after home with no letup.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's we saw a course that was unrelenting. It

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<v Speaker 2>was going to fight you at every turn, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you made a birdie, it would get back at you.

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<v Speaker 3>At every Open, at least a dozen frustrated professionals vowed

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<v Speaker 3>that they will never never again play in a US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Early in the week at Wingfoot, the contestants began to grumble.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of doom and gloom in the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room after those first one or two rounds of practice,

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<v Speaker 2>because no one was coming back with a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>confidence in being able to see very many birdies out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very very difficult golf course, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was palpable.

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<v Speaker 1>And the target of the player's hire was a familiar one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hidden behind these gripes is the belief, sometimes expressed and

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<v Speaker 3>more often implied, that the USGA, which is the governing

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<v Speaker 3>board of American amateur golf, is intent upon embarrassing the pros,

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<v Speaker 3>upon spotlighting the flaws, not their flare.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the story here is that in nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 1>competitive pros were just becoming independent. It was only five

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<v Speaker 1>years before that they had broken away from the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>of America and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Had a bitter battle, and the pros essentially seeded from

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<v Speaker 4>the PGA and formed the PGA Tour. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that they were looking for some support from the USGA.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't get it, So the fledgling PGA Tour was

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<v Speaker 1>on its own and more and more inclined to view

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<v Speaker 1>the USGA as an opponent.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they just felt that, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 4>too much of an amateur operation.

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday, two forty pm, a pair of young pros are

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<v Speaker 3>standing outside the clubhouse, engaged in a favorite pastime, complaining

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<v Speaker 3>about the USGA. I wouldn't even play in a USGA events,

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<v Speaker 3>as one of them, if it wasn't the Open. This

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<v Speaker 3>would be a great tournament if the USGA didn't run it,

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<v Speaker 3>says the other pro let me re phrase that this

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<v Speaker 3>is a great tournament in spite of the USGA.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you What did you make of the

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<v Speaker 1>complaints about the setup?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I might answer that question with the question, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>do you hear from the players of note ever any

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<v Speaker 2>complaining about the golf course. Probably not. You hear the

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<v Speaker 2>players that complain the most are the ones that at

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<v Speaker 2>least likely to win a golf tournament. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you start putting barriers around what is acceptable to you,

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<v Speaker 2>you've really locked yourself in to a non competing position.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember after the second practice round saying to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>if seventy percent of field is checked out, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you could just there were players that just weren't capable,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can hear them talking. So if I can

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<v Speaker 2>be thirty percent field, I might have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday, eleven thirty am, three USGA officials, each tucked in

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<v Speaker 3>a blue blae, each with a pipe tucked in his mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>or holding a conference to explained the course to the press.

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<v Speaker 3>What we try to do, says Sandy Tatum, is not

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<v Speaker 3>to confound the best golfers in the world, but to

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<v Speaker 3>find out who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't grow up in a country club environment.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a very small town of southeast Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a little nine hole sand green golf course

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<v Speaker 2>and I just pictures over here on the wall of

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<v Speaker 2>that little course. And when we moved to Colorado, when

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<v Speaker 2>I was fourteen, I caddied at a local municipal golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd make two dollars to seventy five cents and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go pay the green spees of two dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five cents. That'd leave me fifty cents to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a hot dog or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Pale Irwin quickly became an excellent golfer, but he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going to college for football at the University of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an All Conference defensive back, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>on the football field that he developed his mo mindset

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<v Speaker 1>as a competitor.

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<v Speaker 2>Here was a case where playing college football sort of

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<v Speaker 2>undersized under speed. I mean everything I did was under

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<v Speaker 2>the norm kind of gave me a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>an attitude towards You're not going to beat me. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I may lose, but it won't be from lack of effort.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew he had to play not only harder, but smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll always hear you perhaps you know, sorry, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to read your keys, and my keys were generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive linement, the center, two guards, and most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time they will give away the play just by

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<v Speaker 2>their stance, the way they acted and what you watch

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<v Speaker 2>on film enough and then you get in the game

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<v Speaker 2>and you see it firsthand. You start picking up the

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<v Speaker 2>little idiosyncrasies, whether it be the eyes might move, or

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<v Speaker 2>the head or the way the hand goes down on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground or something that you pick up. You you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have those clues. And that's what I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was good at was anticipating and recognizing those clues and.

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<v Speaker 1>Wing foot Taylorwin saw a big, fast offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm respectful of not only my opponent, but the

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<v Speaker 2>opponent for this golf course. I'm respectful of that man.

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<v Speaker 2>With that respect comes the recognition that I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to some of the details. You had to

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<v Speaker 2>put the ball in the fairway, but that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you hit an iron off the tee because now you're

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<v Speaker 2>left with such a long second shot. It just doubles

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<v Speaker 2>up on how difficult that second shot becomes. So got

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<v Speaker 2>hit fairways, got to hit greens, and keep the ball

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<v Speaker 2>under the hole. It does not matter. I'll trade a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty fit or a ten foot downhill button for a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty fit uphill, But every time, just put the ball

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<v Speaker 2>under the hole. Don't worry where the flag is. If

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<v Speaker 2>the flag is twenty two pass on and six in

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<v Speaker 2>the right. So what, let's hit it in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the green. Okay, it's twenty Let's just try to

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<v Speaker 2>hit it twenty and you know, just find those areas

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<v Speaker 2>in which to hit the ball. So I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, that could give me a reward. It throw

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<v Speaker 2>me a bone that if I hit a shot that

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<v Speaker 2>was on the green and I'm within thirty feet the hole, Hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with success. So that's just the way I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>played my game, and I've always played my game. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I've never relied upon a caddy. For all the

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<v Speaker 2>advice that today's caddies seek to throw at their players,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it put me to sleep. I've got a play

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<v Speaker 2>faster than that. I haven't got time to be ridden

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<v Speaker 2>in bedtime storage.

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<v Speaker 1>So by nineteen seventy four, Hail Irwin was a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine year old pro with an NCAA championship and two

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<v Speaker 1>wins at Harbortown to his name. But he brought a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than just that resume to the Wingfoot Open.

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<v Speaker 1>He also brought experience with opponents much scarier than any

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<v Speaker 1>golf course, and he brought a self confidence rooted in

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<v Speaker 1>self reliance rooted in a childhood of sand greens in

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<v Speaker 1>two seventy five per.

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<v Speaker 2>Loop are Mike Talon seeing it better than anybody else,

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<v Speaker 2>so walks out there on the grass. No, does my

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<v Speaker 2>confidence in myself? Is it any less than Jack Nicholas

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<v Speaker 2>would have. No. I have a belief in myself that

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing for me is the proper thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, that's not to say that hailer Win was

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<v Speaker 1>unaffected by the severity of wing.

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<v Speaker 2>Fut By the time we got to Thursday and they

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<v Speaker 2>called your name on the first team, and you're thinking, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to post this.

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<v Speaker 3>Car Thursday one, eight pm. After driving into the rough

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<v Speaker 3>then hitting a five iron twenty feet above the first hole,

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Nicholas gently taps his putt toward the cup. The

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<v Speaker 3>ball slips past and rolls down the incline, leaving Nicholas

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<v Speaker 3>a full twenty five foot putt coming back. What an

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassing way to start the opening.

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<v Speaker 2>Fut pass And your words spread very quickly on the

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<v Speaker 2>first day with Jack Nicholas four putted the first you

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<v Speaker 2>put it right off the green. You know, that's like wildfire,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you get an idea of what you're in for.

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<v Speaker 2>If you hadn't suspected already, now you know so.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, in the fourth hall, the pin was sort of

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<v Speaker 4>in the center of the green, but right center, just

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<v Speaker 4>in from the from the fringe. Projecked a beautiful iron

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<v Speaker 4>in there, about ten or fifteen feet right of the

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<v Speaker 4>whole three part of that sucker.

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<v Speaker 1>The best golfer in the world finished with a five

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<v Speaker 1>over seventy five seven PM.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Nicholas comes into the press ten without complaints or excuses.

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<v Speaker 3>The course didn't play any tougher than other open courses,

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<v Speaker 3>Nicholas says, the greens are the course you're scared of

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<v Speaker 3>every putt. I wish we've played a course like this

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<v Speaker 3>every week. We'd learn how to put Later on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>a motorist attempting to leave the Wing Foot Golf Club,

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<v Speaker 3>takes a wrong turn and accidentally drives across the first green.

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<v Speaker 3>He does no damage at all. The green holds up

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<v Speaker 3>like asphalt.

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<v Speaker 1>No one broke. Part of that first day, Gary Player

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<v Speaker 1>held the solo lead after an opening seventy and three

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<v Speaker 1>shots behind him. Hail Irwin was playing a study game.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought, for me, if I can go out

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<v Speaker 2>and stay positive, even with a bogie, I know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to make that, but I know others are going

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<v Speaker 2>to make them too. So let's stay in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget what happened on the last and this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that should happen all the time. But forget about what

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<v Speaker 2>you've just done. Let's think about what you have.

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<v Speaker 1>To do on Friday. Playing in the morning, hail Irwin

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make many scores he has to forget. He finishes

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<v Speaker 1>with a seventy and by the middle of the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>holds the lead at plus three. One shot. Behind him

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<v Speaker 1>are two twenty four year old toms Kite and Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>Tied with hail Ierwin are Ray Floyd, Gary Player, and

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<v Speaker 1>one other very familiar name.

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<v Speaker 3>Friday, five point thirty six pm, as Arnold Palmer walks

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<v Speaker 3>toward the seventeenth t the division of his troops begins

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<v Speaker 3>to applaud What did he just do? Someone I think

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<v Speaker 3>he just breathed A cynic replies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the final group on Saturday, and in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you is the pairing of Gary Player and Arnold Palmer.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you remember of the atmosphere around that group

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of you. What was the what was the venue

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<v Speaker 1>like at that time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously anytime you have Arnold Palmer in contention, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to create a lot of dynamics. Now as a competitor,

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<v Speaker 2>I like seeing that in front of me, because if

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<v Speaker 2>it's behind you, now it's running up on you all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. If you're in it, you have to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of concern yourself with what's going on around you. When

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<v Speaker 2>it's up in front of you, then it's your better.

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday, you played, You played a great round of golf

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I played very well on Saturday, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Which was quite an accomplishment on that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday to ten pm. Dave Stockton comes out of the

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<v Speaker 3>scorers tent after adding up all seventy eight strokes. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe people want to say I see the golf

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<v Speaker 3>they're seeing here, he says. I know they want to

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<v Speaker 3>see birdies, but the USGA doesn't want to see birdies.

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<v Speaker 3>This course makes me feel like a fool. I'm exempt

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<v Speaker 3>again next year, but I'm not going to play the Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Stockton did play the US Open the next year,

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<v Speaker 1>and the year after that, and each of the seven

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<v Speaker 1>years after that. Anyway. On Saturday at Wingfoot, Stockton is

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<v Speaker 1>hardly the only player to have trouble. Gary player shoots

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven. Ray Floyd shoots seventy eight, and when Hale

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<v Speaker 1>Irwin arrives on the sixteenth tee, he's three over on

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<v Speaker 1>his round and in front of him are Wingfoot's brutal

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<v Speaker 1>closing holes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a number sixteen for the members is a par

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<v Speaker 2>five and for us it was a par four, and

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<v Speaker 2>they move the tee up maybe five yards.

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<v Speaker 1>There he hits a three iron to seven feet and

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<v Speaker 1>holds the putt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now seventeen is again another one of those holes that's

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<v Speaker 2>relatively straight away, quite a narrow fair away.

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<v Speaker 1>He rolls in a twenty foot or for.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you've got the kicking the tail in eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you think, where's a braither hole on this golf course,

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<v Speaker 2>there is none.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred and forty eight yards dog leg left and

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<v Speaker 1>a green guarded by deep bunkers and a massive false front.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you were on the front of green, it

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<v Speaker 2>would roll off the front. The flag was on the left,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit towards the front, and I hit

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<v Speaker 2>my ball just short and left of the green at

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<v Speaker 2>a let's just say a pitch shot that one doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to have, So I, okay, keep it under the hole,

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<v Speaker 2>don't pitch it long, don't pitch keep it, keep it

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<v Speaker 2>under those So I pitched it up there five or

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<v Speaker 2>six feet pretty much under the hole and made that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great up and down, a true US

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<v Speaker 1>Open car.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. I've had a really good fanny shot, positioned myself

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<v Speaker 2>well for the Sunday round, and I was glad to

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<v Speaker 2>get that round over with.

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<v Speaker 1>Going into Sunday's final round, Taylor Win was two shots

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Arnold Palmer and one behind young Tom Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>who had posted a sixty nine. At that point, Watson

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't even won a regular PGA Tour event, but his

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<v Speaker 1>talent was obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see this young man was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the next superstar. There was no doubt. He was still

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<v Speaker 2>wet behind the ears, I guess if you wish, in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of competitive experience, but it was going to he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to drive that off very quickly. But you know,

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>as I'm thinking of the round, I'm thinking, Okay, Arnold

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<v Speaker 2>still a very effective player, maybe the twilight of his

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>really competitive career, but still Arnold Palmer Tom Watson, the

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:36.440
<v Speaker 2>new up and coming star. But it just comes boiling

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<v Speaker 2>back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes boiling back to Hailerwin and what he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday, one PM. I'm nervous, says Hailor Win, but I'm

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 3>not shaking with anticipation.

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<v Speaker 2>You're playing for a Nichel championship, so there's there's greater pressures.

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>There's greater and you just name it. It's there. You're

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<v Speaker 2>one of the last ones to leave the locker room,

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<v Speaker 2>You're one of the last ones the practice area.

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<v Speaker 3>One twenty four pm. My only philosophy, says Tom Watson,

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<v Speaker 3>is I like my position.

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>So all these things tell you that there is something

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<v Speaker 2>important going on, and even if you try to close

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the door on all that, it's still there.

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<v Speaker 3>One PM. Kail Or Win closes his locker. Excuse me, gentlemen,

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 3>he says, I have work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't feel it, then why are you there?

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:30.199
<v Speaker 2>And I tried to accept that. I tried to embrace

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that because that is what's competition's about. That's why you're there.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>One twenty six pm. Tom Watson closes his locker. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you like all the attention? Someone asks Watson, nots. Yes,

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>he says, I do. I'd like to give this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of interview every week.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried when I get to the first t, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm the t. Now you have to blank out.

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Now you have to get focused on where am I

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to get this ball? Now is the time to

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<v Speaker 2>play golf and not go through all the what ifs.

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>He's too late for that.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.679
<v Speaker 1>On the front nine, Arnold Palmer's putter betrays him and

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 1>he goes from six to ten over. He's out of it.

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Behind him walking to the ninth green, Tom Watson and

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>hailer Win are tied at six over.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 3>For seventeen PM.

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<v Speaker 1>So could you tell me about that putt at nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I forget how many lumps and bumps there were

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>between me and oh, let's call it fourteen or fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>From thirty five feet away over a ridge, Hailorrwin curls

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<v Speaker 3>his putt into the cup.

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 2>But there was a lot of go up a little hill,

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<v Speaker 2>down up a little hill, and down to another.

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 3>So and as the ball falls he breaks into a

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<v Speaker 3>happy little dance, his first sign of emotion all day.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if you're fortunate enough to make a putt like that, okay,

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 2>you had the skill set to do it, but maybe

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>more importantly, you had the luck set to get a

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<v Speaker 2>ball like that into the hole.

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<v Speaker 3>For eighteen PM, Hailerwin's wife is beaming fifteen hundred miles

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 3>away in Kirkwood, Missouri, near Saint Louis, in their new home.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 3>Sally Jean Irwin is sitting next to Pack Crates and

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 3>her sleeping two and a half year old daughter, Becky,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 3>watching the Open on television. Sally Jean is eight months pregnant,

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 3>which explains why she's not at wing foot. Three weeks ago,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Hailerwin woke up one morning and told his wife he

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 3>had just had a dream that he won the US Open.

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>As for Tom Watson, he misses his birdy pet on

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>number nine and drops one shot back of hail Irwin.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Four point thirty three pm, A spectator behind the tenth

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 3>green points at Tom Watson, nods his head knowingly and

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 3>says he's choking.

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, another young, talented but winless pro, Forrest Feesler, has

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>clung to even parr on his round, which means he's

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>suddenly in contention.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 2>You have to think about what you're doing at this time.

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>What Tom Watson does He does what Forest Feesler does,

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>he does with Arnold Baumer, all of them. Let's worry

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 2>about Hailer what's going to be doing.

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Four point fifty two pm. Tom Watson hooks his t

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>shot on the twelfth hole into the woods and a

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 3>spectator says that's it for Watson.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Standing on the fifteenth tee, halor Win has a three

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>shot lead over Forrest Fessler, but within minutes he's given

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>one of those shots up.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, like anything, there could have been a

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>bit of nerves. But bear in mind, even if you're

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>just playing this on a casual Saturday with your friends,

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 2>these are hard golf holes.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Five forty one pm. On the sixteenth hole, hailor Win drives.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the rough and given the circumstances, are you going

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to hit that perfect, relaxed shot that you have with

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>your buddy on Saturday playing for a dollar in asshaule.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Five forty four pm hailer Win hits his second shot

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 3>into a bunker on the right side of the green.

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 2>No, you've got the factor in the nerves. You've got

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>to factor in the anxiety.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Five forty seven pm. From the bunker, Hailer went last

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 3>within eight feet of the pin on the sixteenth, he

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 3>walks onto the green, sites his putt very carefully and misses.

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 3>He now has two straight bogies and he's seven over,

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 3>only a stroke in front of Boris Wesler.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>But mind you, I was the only one making those bogies.

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Everybody else was making them as well. So it's not

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>like you're, well, I'm gonna match your par with my bar. No,

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>he'sa I'm gonna match your bogue with my bog.

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 3>E five point fifty two PM. Forrest Wessler misses his

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 3>fifteen foot attempt to save par on the eighteenth hole.

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>As he comes off the green, he shakes his head. Man,

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>this course really takes it out of you mentally, Fessler says.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>It just does things to your mind.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>But Hayler Win still needs to stop the bleeding. And

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>on his drive on seventeen.

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I just lost my legs and I got over it

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and I pulled it just into the left rof.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're in the rough on seventeen. Could you

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>basically take me home from there?

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, again, when you're in the rough, you're not going

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 2>to reach the green, and so I just took out

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a I think it might have even been a forwood.

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it choked down on it, and I chopped

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it to where I had I think my yard was

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and two yards or one hundred and

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>three yards, and again I thought, don't hit it long,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>don't hit it past the hole. And I hit a

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>good shot, perhaps ten feet or so from the hole.

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately I got there and it was quite a left

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 2>to rights breaking putt, and I'm thinking to myself, Okay,

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 2>we need to make this putt.

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<v Speaker 3>Six oh two pm, Hilerwin lines up his twelve foot

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 3>putt on seventeen and a reporter kneeling behind him says

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 3>he'll never make it. It breaks a foot. He makes

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>the putt and breathes a deep sigh of relief.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>When that went in. That was such a big relief

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>because now I can play the last hole, not conservatively,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>not have to play it dynamically. Let's put it that week,

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to put one shot on another.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Six four pm. Charged up equally by his putt on

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>seventeen and the huge gallery lining the eighteenth hole from

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 3>tee to green, hail Or Wins senses drive straight down

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the fairway, and.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>So when I hit my drive right where I wanted

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to in the fairway, and then I could see the

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>big board up at the green, and I did see

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>where I had a two shot lead. But now, don't

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>hit it to the right. Cannot miss the green to

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the right, and I've got one hundred and ninety four yards.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was Win's a little off the left,

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the green setting up there a little bit. It's a

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>two iron shot. Today's people say, what's a two iron?

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Nobody has a two iron in their bag. How many

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 4>pro carrie at two iron?

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, today's player might say, well, that's just a six iron. Well, guys,

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>go back to where I was, break that two iron

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 2>out of your bag and try to hit that shot.

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, only it was a two iron. The clubhead was

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 4>about the size of the fall.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I remember distinctly all the things I've forgotten. I

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>remember distinctly telling myself a nice smooth backswing, make sure

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you get the clubs set, and I on the ball

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>the instant there was contact. It was a solid contact.

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I know it was a good shot. And so when

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I looked up and the ball was flying just a

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>little bit left of the hole, and the wind brought

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>it right over the top of the flag. I knew

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>then that it was over.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Erwin hits the two iron and the ball stops, running

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>nineteen feet from the pin. As Irwin strides toward the green,

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 3>he raises both hands above his head like a victorious boxer.

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>The gallery booms out its applause and Erwin waves his vizor.

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Erwin plays the nineteen footer the way a champion should.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>He strokes the ball to within an inch of the cup.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 3>He taps in, and Hailerwin is the nineteen seventy four

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 3>United States Open champion.

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Hailerwin finished with a score of two eighty seven seven over,

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>second place Forrest Fessler nine over, and tied for fifth

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>at twelve over forty four year old Arnold Palmer and

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty four year old Tom Watson. Palmer would never again

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>place that high in a major, whereas Watson would recover

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>quickly from his Sunday collapse. The next year he won

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the first of his five Open championships. But for now

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>he had failed the test that was wingfoot in nineteen

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>seventy four and Haylor went alone had.

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Passed after I had won. You know, I remember thinking

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 2>to myself and the confines of my room that evening

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that I'd finally achieved what I've been trying to do,

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's to be a player on the international stage.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>To be successful in the world of golf, and to

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>do that you have to establish yourself as a winner

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>in major championships, and I had achieved my goal.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Win continued to do well at US Opens. He

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>won two more, and he went on to become one

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>of the best older golfers of all time, winning forty

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>five tournament some seven majors on the senior tour. He's

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>now seventy five and just recently he gave up the

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>competitive game.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>That's thirty five years old. I don't know as I

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 2>can go out there and play with the same intensity

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>that I once did, because you need intensity in your

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>own way. You need that because if you don't have it,

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what you're in. It's a job you have.

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 2>If you don't attack it with intensity. If you just

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>back off of that and say, you know, I think

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.959
<v Speaker 2>i'll let that fly this morning, I'll get that later

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 2>later it comes and you don't do it, that's the

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>signal it's time to step back big time. Because unless

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you can deal with that in between, and that well,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 2>he's good, but not like he used to be.

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 4>That's not me.

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>He still follows golf and he sees that since nineteen

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy four, PGA Tour players have gained a great deal

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>more power, that their complaints about courses and setups carry

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a great deal more weight. And he here's what some

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of them have been saying about US open venues, like

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>say Shinnecock Hills twenty seventeen.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I thought we could be on the edge, but we've

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>surpassed it. Unfortunately, they've lost the golf course. I think

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>we're we're making a fatal mistake if we don't distinguish

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the good from the average, the best from the good.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 2>The delineation amongst the best and the others generally takes

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>place with the difficult golf course. The best players complain

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>about the conditions. No, I think that when you start

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.919
<v Speaker 2>complaining about the conditions of the golf course, now you're

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>setting yourself up for failure because now you're admitting I

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>can't play that golf course. And one of the things,

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 2>as we talk here so forty six years later about Wingfoot,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>it still carries the prestige it still carries the talk

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what tournament or what club wouldn't want that? And I

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:58.479
<v Speaker 2>don't buy into this. Let's treat the players with let's

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:03.240
<v Speaker 2>pamper them, let's use the kid gloves because they're complaining. Sorry,

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't go into it. I think the

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 2>players of today hit the ball so far, and if

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 2>they're that talented, they should be able to play any

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 2>golf course, no matter how it's set up as an

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<v Speaker 2>organization or as an organizing committee or as a tournament venue.

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<v Speaker 2>I would want my golf course to pursuent itself with

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<v Speaker 2>some teeth so the best players in the world are

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<v Speaker 2>tasked to play better golf.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the tenth episode of Friday Stories. It was

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<v Speaker 1>produced and hosted by me Garren Morrison, with editing and

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<v Speaker 1>engineering by Jay Verick and transcript assistants from Jay Fischel.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producer is Andy Johnson. Many thanks to Neil Reagan,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Moulvoy, Jeremy Shop, Hail Irwin, and of course to

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's maybe a couple of stretches, a little

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<v Speaker 4>push up. He never did any serious exercise. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 4>hold on a minute, problem.

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<v Speaker 5>What what's the word bagel.

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<v Speaker 2>F A T A L.

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<v Speaker 4>My wife fent some conference call. They're playing bridge or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Fatal, so you're you're the household spellar.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh oh yeah, believe me. They shoot. They play bridge

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<v Speaker 4>all freaking day on this computer thing. All of her

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<v Speaker 4>friends from Florida shoot is not real anyway,