WEBVTT - Press Pass: Eric Rowe, Jordan Hicks Meet The Media 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.160 We welcome you back into Eagles Draft Central on Philadelphia 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.400 Eagles dot com Bo Wolf alongside NFL Film Senior producer 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.600 Grant co Sell as we await press conferences for Eric 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.519 Rowe and Jordan Hicks. The Eagles Day two picks here 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.320 at the Novacare Complex. We'll bring that to you shortly. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.720 Until then, we sort of wait around for the Eagles 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.360 first Day three pick. Of course, they traded down in 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.279 the fourth round, getting a future third round pick from 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.840 the Detroit Lions, and right now no fifth round picks, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.080 so we could be waiting here till the sixth round. Greg, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.760 nice little Saturday we've gone for us, So we're watching 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.440 the draft. There worst things to do. So we've talked 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.200 obviously about how the Eagles may eventually still need to 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.440 address some needs on the offensive line, not necessarily dire 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.760 starting needs, but in terms of depth at least, do 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.600 you feel like there is that depth if the Eagles 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.119 have to wait all the way until the sixth round. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.560 And I think what people have to understand is when 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.880 you start getting later and later in the draft, you're 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.640 obviously getting to prospects who have more flaws, Otherwise they 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.640 would not be available in the sixth round. So certainly 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.160 there are players on the offensive line who I think 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.960 fit sort of the profile. They have the traits that 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.440 fit with an athletic zone blocking scheme. I look at 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.919 a Laurence Gibson, who's a tackle from Virginia Tech. Tested 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.800 out of control at the combine. He needs a lot 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.360 of work, but when you put on the tape, you 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:45.000 see a really athletic mover. Another intriguing tackle is Rob 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.880 Chris from North Carolina State, who certainly has left tackle traits, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.200 which likely means you could play right tackle. Maybe you 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.720 could even move them inside to guard. But there's players 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.920 like that who I believe from tape study fit the 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.960 profile that the Eagles look for in their run block. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:02.200 I also think what you get when you get to 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.400 Day three is just bigger variance on draft boards across 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.760 the league. Everybody sort of thinks that the top first 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.320 round players are pretty similar. When you get this deep, 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.320 it's all about who can you plug into your scheme 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.040 Guys like that. So you know a player who the 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.120 Eagles may have as a fourth round offensive lineman other 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:20.919 teams may not even have on their board. So there's 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.240 an opportunity I think for there to be players there 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.280 in the sixth round. The Eagles have two sixth round 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.120 picks right now, number one ninety one and one ninety 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.080 six coming up in the sixth round, but it should 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.400 be interesting to see what they do. Yeah, and again, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.480 you know there's other players I know you like. We've 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.200 been talking quite a bit about Adrian Amos from Penn State, 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.320 who I believe still on the board, and whether he's 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.920 there in the sixth round only time will tell, but 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.839 there are certainly other players that I think look like 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.919 players who fit what the Eagles would like. Amos is 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.560 the opposite of Eric Row. Amos started at corner and 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.680 became a safety, whereas Row started at safety and became 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.400 a corner. But Amos, when you see him play, he 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.720 played a ton over the slide and played man to 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.359 man over the slot. So he's another big guy six 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.640 to two eighteen that has corner and safety skills. And 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.160 what's interesting to see as you sort of juxtapose what 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.280 the Eagles have been able to do versus what other 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.040 teams were able to do. Seattle just took two offensive 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.359 linemen within a few picks in the fourth round, both 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.200 of whom were linked to the Eagles, both of whom 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.120 came to the novicare complex Terry Pool from San Diego 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.280 State and Mark Lewinsky from West Virginia, player who we 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.519 have been talking a lot about, a player I would 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.280 have loved to have seen as an Eagle, But clearly 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.240 they didn't value him as highly as I did because 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.560 they traded out of the fourth round. Because to me, 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.000 he was a fourth round type player who could have 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.840 I don't want to say stepped right in. I don't 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.200 think he would have been a starter of this year, 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.880 but again, has those traits that you look for because 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.960 he moved well. I really liked the fact that he 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.760 was rarely on the ground when I watched him play 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.600 at West Virginia. But obviously he's gone. They didn't feel 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.400 strongly enough. It's like Chips said yesterday when they drafted 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.960 Jordan Hicks, he was so much higher than everyone else 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.280 on their board that they had to take him. They 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.600 obviously did feel that way about anybody in the fourth round, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.200 or they would have stayed there and made the pick. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.560 All right, As we transition from hoping and wishing that 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.280 some guys will be there in the sixth round, let's 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.160 talk a little bit about the players the Eagles did 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.320 choose in round two and round three on Day two 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.880 who we will meet shortly in the novicare complex, Eric Rowe, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.279 a safety slash cornerback. The versatile defensive back from Utah 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.479 Jordan Hicks, so you mentioned from Texas, the linebacker. I 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.039 think we're going to see from these guys sort of 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.640 what we saw from Nelson Agilore yesterday. These are mature 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.520 young men who are ready to step into this Chip 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.560 Kelly program and begin work right away, you know. And 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.560 I think that Row is to me a guy who 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.640 could be a starter of the yard corner. I think 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.560 he's going to be given every opportunity to start at 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.520 corner on the outside opposite Byron Maxwell. Because he's big. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.560 He fits the profile six one two oh five safety 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.880 skills as well. But clearly, when you draft in the 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.440 second round this kind of player and you like big corners, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.800 that's what you're starting him. At. Corner is a more 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.280 important position than safety in the NFL, especially if you 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.760 want to play press man, and in this Eagles defense, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.360 Eric Row has the capability, the length, the physicality, all 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.159 that stuff to step in and do what cornerbacks are 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.920 asked to do in the Seagle's defense as you take 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.240 a little peek into the auditorium there. But Eric Row, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.240 we've talked a lot about him. We went to the 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.080 Senior Bowl. We saw the film room, stuff, physical, all 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.599 that stuff. Everything checks all the boxes that the Eagles 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.360 will be looking for at that position. Is an Eric 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.479 Row is not a first round pick. And my guess, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.360 as he may have been a late first rounder on 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:36.400 some boards, is because he's not that sudden, explosive, twitchy mover. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.720 But every other box he checks in terms of size, comfortable, movement, 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.560 smooth and fluid. Can play physical press man, can play 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:50.200 shadow press man, can play off coverage. The one other 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.159 thing you hope you improve with, and this is a 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.360 coaching thing, is ball skills. When he runs on vertical routes, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.719 you want him to look for the ball a little sooner. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.000 That can be taught. So he really does check all 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.200 the boxes that you look for. And interesting to hear 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.680 Chip Kelly say yesterday that Erica would have been a 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.360 target in round one if they had traded back from 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.039 twenty and not been able to take Nelson Agilor so 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.480 certainly he was on their radar. Second year in a Row. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.360 We've seen the Eagles target a guy in round two, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.640 go up and get him. Did what they did for 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.800 Jordan Matthews last year. I did it again for Eric 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.120 Row this year. How about Jordan Hicks? You think that 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.320 he is a player who can step in and if needed, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.200 would play right away. Fortunately the Eagles have the depth 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.440 at the position where they don't have to ask him 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.880 to do that. But we send it over now to 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:36.479 the auditorium to meet the Eagles day different than maybe 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.560 visits with other teams. And I know you said where 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:46.800 you're feeling when you left the building other teams, just 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.000 the way the program was ran here. I can't explain 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.760 like a certain like detailed, but it's just like a 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.480 feeling I had when I left you. I was like, man, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.440 this program is different, like the culture is different, the 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.920 way they do things, and when I when I live, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.160 I just wanted to be a part of it so bad. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.520 Have you been able to see each chim Bill Davis 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.240 Corey on one today and and if so, have they 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.760 given you an idea of how they planned to use you? 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.520 I did see him the day I saw him this morning, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.520 but just like a kind of like a great uh 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.160 you know, say hello, say what's up again? But nothing 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:25.000 like exits and knows yet. So you don't know at 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.880 this point whether you're gonna start you know, when practice starts, 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.640 whether you're gonna be getting reps of quarterback of safety 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.160 at this point. No, really, we haven't really talked to 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.600 anything football wise, just you know, how you doing again? 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.600 People humble starting camp in one position and maybe switching 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.040 out in necessity or phrase to pick one say, I 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.920 mean I hope where you know, wherever they placed me. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.280 I overstated the whole season just so I can focus 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.680 on it more. But I mean, if it happens to 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.120 I need to switch out in necessa, you know, I'll 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.480 gladly do it. You think you're better, you can get 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.880 better at the corner or as it. Uh, I mean 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.840 it's kind of a hard question because of two you know, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.200 totally different positions. Uh. You know, each position you have 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.800 to have a certain mentality as far as being on 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.240 the playing field. But I don't know, I can't really 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:24.680 choose really which one I'm better at. You at a 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.200 need and because we had a new class of safeties 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.120 coming in and it kind of allowed me to go 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:38.000 out there. He moved around Why was that, Oh, just 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.640 because well I was born in Cleveland, and I moved 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.760 to Indianapolis, to oh Late to Kansas in the Austin, Texas, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.040 in the Houston just because my dad he just kept 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.640 getting new job offers and so. But it was when 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.240 I was very young, so it really didn't affect me 0:08:55.280 --> 0:09:00.440 too much. But really just moved around really just really 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.679 helped me, like, you know, adapt to new places easier. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:10.599 He was, Oh, he's an account right now. Familiarity with 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:18.559 the guys already happened secondary those guys, Uh just like, no, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.800 I'm on the name basis nothing personal. I knew that 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.520 there's a whole new turnaround in the secondary, so uh, 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.240 I kind of knew a little bit about the guys 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.760 about last year, but now it's kind of a new cropper. Guys, 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.000 I don't even reached out to you since uh no, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.880 you know who just last night. So situation for her 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:47.280 so you uh yeah, I mean it is a good 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.080 opportunity for me to come in and play and help 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:53.000 the team out, you know, kind of fortunate. It's not 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.560 like a situation maybe like I'm behind reevers, you know. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.719 But on the other end, if that did happen, I 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.400 would learn a lot, just because you know, he has 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.680 a lot of experience in the league. But uh, for 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.000 this opportunity, I do have a great chance to play. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.000 Beagles always talk about not their desire for for all 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.120 wrong corner mats. Why do you think that's become so 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.520 popular league? And how do you use that to your advantage? 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.480 Just because the receivers are getting taller nowadays. Uh, now 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.679 you're seeing six four sixty five six six receivers now 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.880 in the league, and obviously you want a corner that 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.160 can match up with him lengthwise. So corterback want to 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.079 throw the fade on him, he can just reach over you. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.679 So really my length, who's kind of kind of advantage 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.480 for me? My long arms and physical play just the 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.120 way I played the game. What do you like most 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.120 about their scheme? I haven't learned much about the scheme, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.800 just learned a player too, just from the team visit. Uh. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.480 I haven't think again, I haven't. We haven't gotten to 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:57.920 any football uh schematic, any football things yet. So it's 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:02.680 Byron mask Well, someone who's was oh yeah, I watched 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.080 him at Seattle and I was like, you know, past 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:06.760 couple of years, I was like, man, this guy's good 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.480 and now I know I get a chance to play 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:13.720 with him, could learn a lot from him. You know 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:20.199 that they do like kind of strong. They talk to 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:26.160 you about that part of the Uh again, no, they 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.120 not a lot of exit and no has been going on. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.360 But if they do, do a light ref left right. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.040 I mean, That's what I've been doing in Utah, so 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.640 I'll be very familiar with it. Where were you for 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.640 the dress? I was at home my house in Houston. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.800 What do you know about Philadelphia? Have you that you've 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.280 been here before before? The official visit and connections in 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:49.160 the city. Uh? No, this is really my first time 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.400 on the East coast. Uh you know, really from the 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.600 Midwest and kind of moved down south and went to 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.600 the West coast. But nothing, no tides really on the 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:03.760 East Coast since my first time. So just going through 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.760 like the regular recruiting process when I made my official visits. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.640 When I got out there, I just fell in love 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.720 with the city. The football team was perfect for me. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.920 The scheme wise was the best fit. You know. I 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.160 had a connection to coaches and the teammate's already there 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.840 so in a great you know, academic program. So there 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:29.760 was really no hesitation. Yeah, that's probably about like nine press, so, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.959 I mean I have my good amount of press coverage. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.120 You guys will use your hands a little more in 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:40.320 the college game in the NFL? Did you did you 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.280 have to rely on your hands a lot at that 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:47.560 level and you think I would be adjusted for you? Really? 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.000 I didn't have to rely on my hands on the 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.280 lot at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, to to knock 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.280 off the time it was down the field. I'm not 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:58.640 a very grappy player. Could we put a huge emphasis 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.280 in our training camp Utah where not to grab down 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.120 if it even when you can. So really going to 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.640 the sea coming to the NFL, you know, I feel 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.720 like that's a good thing because after down the field, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.720 I'm not grabby. I'm just all depending on the eyes 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.400 and hips. This is a division where you can see 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.920 des Brian one week old back in the next week 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.880 to Sean Jackson next week. Have you thought about that 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.560 and playing in this division? Oh, I mean yeah, of course, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.880 but I feel like that's what every divisions the NFL. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.880 But uh, really, coming out to Pack twel, I feel 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.080 like really prepared me because one week was Nelson Aguilar, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.240 next week with Vincent Mayle next week with Time Montgomery. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.920 I mean, so really the mentality I will you know, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.959 translate to the NFL. I mean we talked about a 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:51.520 little bit last night. You talk about I felt like 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:56.240 he was the most explosive, shifty guy, uh and a 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.599 receiver standpoint. I mean I didn't get to match with 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.240 him one on one as a corner because I was 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.199 safety that game. But when trying to tackle him, I mean, 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.320 you really have to come come to balance, you're able 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.880 to break down and and really focus because he put 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:17.880 some moves on that I have not seen so college. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.000 Just when you're around the ball a whole bunch of 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.280 three interceptions, you think that's kind of just like bump 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.920 of the draw sort of how it goes, and you 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:29.920 know that aspect. Is that something that you're uh yeah, 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.880 I mean my first couple of years, I had shaky hands. Uh. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.600 I had a lot of dropped interceptions. In my final 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.040 two years, as when I finally improved my hands, Uh, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.720 I wasn't really getting many chances, and when I do, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:46.000 they weren't clear interception opportunities, more just kind of break 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.440 up the pass through the receiver's arms. But I really 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:55.440 definitely have improved on catching the ball. I graduated in 0:14:55.560 --> 0:15:02.720 the fall of fourteen. Business Administration. All right, thanks guys, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:19.560 all right, exactly, Tony Faith all right, guys, we'll take 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:27.040 questions reported now. Jordan lie said yesterday that that they 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.680 had more composure to you than any player in the drift. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.960 Where was all of it? And and and is that 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:38.280 something you you followed them absolutely? Um, I mean it 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.880 it began day one, you know, I mean it was 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.720 it was a Senior Bowl first interaction. Had a had 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.720 a meeting with basically the entire coach staff after Senior Boss, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.600 the only um full meeting like that that I actually 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:56.040 had there. UM. Then went to the combine, had another 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:01.120 meeting with them, UM. And then uh, let's see, coach 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.040 Minner came out to pro day. Um, I came out 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.320 here for a week or for a day. So you 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.040 know that that whole um experience, you know, being you know, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.480 they were the basically the only team that I truly 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:18.520 saw continuing to pursue UM. So obviously that that's that 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.680 showed a lot to me, and uh to them as well. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:26.480 You know, I mean, you know you you you obviously 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.040 have no clue what's going to happen, um, you know, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:34.560 and I was extremely anxious, but you know, to me, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.880 this was the team that was pursuing pursuing me the most. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:48.040 So um it made sense. Image whiff defense, import you know, 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.960 it was I think the first one was the most difficult. Obviously, Um, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.760 I was a freshman. I came there, um with the 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.280 expectation that that Will must Chap was going to be 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.200 really my coach the entire time he was the coach 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.160 and waiting at that at that moment um, and when 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.960 he left, it was a big blow. But you know, 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.879 I think what it did was it taught me to 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.359 you know, be versatile and and learn um new defenses. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:19.680 You know, I've I've come away with so many different schemes, terminology. Um. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.639 You know, I've played just about, um just about everything. 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.520 I mean, shoot, you talk about three four four three, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.640 you know playing Mike Sam Will you know I've I've 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.040 done just about every single position. Um. So I think 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.000 it's it's done a lot of good for me, Uh, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.199 making this transition into the NFL, and and you know 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.720 where you have no clue who's who's going to be 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.760 your coaching and you just you roll. You gotta roll. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.399 With it and and you know that's that's how it is. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.720 What do you know about the Eagles scheme is familiar too? 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:55.400 I guess what you're the ones you played in Texas. Yeah, um, well, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.520 you know, I'm pretty sort of familiar with it. Like 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.080 Eric said, that is the only the only exposure I've 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.200 gotten from it is from my visit here, my day 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.919 one day visit, and it was, um, you know, a 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.000 few plays, you know, So I'm not extremely familiar with it. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.520 But again, like I said, I think I'm versai. I 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.240 think I'm I'm I can pick up on things quickly 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:27.400 and I expect to do that absolutely aware that yeah, um, 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.200 you know, I am aware of it. But I think 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.000 one thing is going to do for me, especially being 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.960 a rookie, is have the opportunity to learn from a 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.399 lot of guys who've had a lot of experience in 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.960 this league and a lot of success successful experience. You know, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.320 they've there's a lot of great linebackers on this on 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.400 this team, Um, that I can learn from that I can, um, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:46.960 you know, kind of go onto their wing. You know, 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.880 I know one of them personally, Emmanuel Acho, he's uh, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.760 you know, he was my mentor at the University of 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.320 Texas when I first got there. So you know, hopefully, 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.400 uh that'll that'll help smoothen the transition out a little bit. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.439 And I can't wait to learn from them. Yeah, did 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:08.160 you get assessed maybe than you other teams, And yeah, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.639 I went on a few visits, had a few workouts. Um, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.160 you know, but but like I, like I said, they 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.760 were really the only team that continued, um at each phase. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.399 You know, it's you've got the Senior Bowl phase, you 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.600 got the combine phase, the pro day, you know, and 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.119 each time they were there, um, you know, and we 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.119 were having real conversation about, um, what was gonna what 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.479 was gonna happen here on draft Day and hopefully you know, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.560 and it actually worked out. So you know, I compared 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.880 to other teams that that's the biggest difference for sure. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.320 Similar to Eric, You've moved down on you moved a 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.080 lot as a kid, right, It's what what brought you 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.320 from city the city, and yeah, um, primarily mom's job. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.159 Just moving up, the moving up the ranks, and you know, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.879 just uh, I started in born in Colorado, moved to Indianapolis, 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.639 moved to South Carolina, went to Ohio. Um, you know, 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.840 and I think what it instilled to me was wanting to, 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.200 you know, meet new people and because when when college came, 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.240 I had no ties to anybody I had, you know, 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.680 I was I was pretty open minded during that whole 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:19.600 process and really saw myself moving again because I think 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.720 of that that background that I had and wanting that 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:27.879 new experience. Oh. She she worked for a lot of 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.320 different Pilsbury Revlon, She's worked for. She's in the business world. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.240 She's corporate right now, she's with Bob Evans in the 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.760 corporate um with with Croker, She's in the manage with 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.680 Croker team. I think Charlie Strong on TV yesterday was 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:43.000 describing you as a coach on the field. Where does 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.240 that come from? Where did that start? You know? I've 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.439 I mean I've always really filled that role, UM, and 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.000 I prided myself and feeling that role. I see myself 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.760 as a leader on the field and off the field. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:58.520 And if you're gonna be a leader on the field, 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.360 you got any position you gotta understan and UM defense 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.240 and I think that comes easy and natural for me. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:09.280 UM do that much about to meet Grians and the 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.719 type of a little bit it's a little bit Um 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.439 obviously I'm gonna get to know a lot more. I've 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.680 heard his name over and over and over again throughout 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.560 this entire process. Um, but I'm you know, I'm excited 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:25.880 to get to get to know him and learn from him. Yeah, 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.600 through through this just you know, Uh, he came in 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.240 while we were having lunch, and you know, everybody, you know, 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.920 you notice him when he walks in, and um, he's 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.240 got a presence and obviously he's been here for a 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.720 while and it's very established and um, somebody that's extremely 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:51.880 respected on this team. Just yeah, I mean obviously, coming 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.800 in here, you're gonna need somebody to kind of help 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.199 you and get you acclimated to to what this culture 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.359 is like and what it means to be a pro um. 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.720 So definitely, I mean I'm looking to learn. You know, 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.119 I'm here open minded, trying to try and absorb as 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.040 much as possible. Um, going through this, through this entire 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:12.480 process as a rookie. For sure, I didn't give you 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.400 not yet, not yet. He is Uh he reached out 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.440 to me yesterday said we'll talk. Um, So obviously that's 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:26.400 going to happen. But you know, nothing yet, nothing yet. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:30.000 I'm you know, he's like he was extremely excited for me. Um, 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.720 and you know, obviously I'm extremely excited to be part 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:38.120