1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. Thoughts on the Comy 2 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: interview from over the weekend. Of course, we'll discuss those, 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: my friends. Also, the state of California is balking at 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: sending National Guard to help out on the border. We'll 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: get into that and update on the aftermath of air 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: strikes in Syria. And of course, in the third hour, 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk about what wokeness is doing to your favorite 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: TV shows and movies that are more coming up. This 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: no mistake, American, You're a great American. Again the Buck 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins. Analysts, remember no one, welcome, my friends 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm coming to you live 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: from California. I'm visiting out here in Los Angeles for 15 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: for a few days this week. Very much enjoying my 16 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: time out here. We have a lot to get to. 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: This Comy thing was you know, I I promised that 18 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to spend too much time this week 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: talking talking about Comy or or sank to Comy as 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: I like to call him, because the sanctimony with this 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: guy is it is a tornado of sanctimony every time 22 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: he appears on TV. This interview was was hard to 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: take and many ways hard to watch. But I feel 24 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: like I've known comys in my day. I think a 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of us have. And if you if you understand 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: who this guy is, then everything starts to make sense. 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: If you really put into context who this individual, who 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: he reminds you of, who he operates like in your 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: own life, you be like, yeah, I've known some I've 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: known some comys in my day. Uh. And just as 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, we've got some some more stuff 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: on Syria to talk about. Also California and the National 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: Guard going to the border. That's that's gonna be an 34 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: interesting piece as well. So here's here's what I got 35 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: for you on the whole comy thing went on for 36 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: a long time. I went back today and read through 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the transcript of it too, and not a lot of 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: news breaking in this, but if you look between the lines, 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: if you read between the lines a bit, you find 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: that is a very problematic figure. This this Mr Komy 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: fellow and has at various points in his career taken 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: actions and made decisions that a non Komy would probably 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: be ruined for I mean, this guy, he's a a 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: savvy political infighter, make no mistake about it. You know, 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: he is the boy scout who will stab you in 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: the back. So you think, oh, this guy, you know, 47 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: anyone can trust him. Then all of a sudden, Ah, 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: what's that in my back? What happened? You didn't see 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: it coming because it came from Comy. I want to 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: break down those some of his And this is who 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: he is, right, that's what his the vibe, the feeling 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: you get about this guy. You know, I've told some 53 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: of my friends recently that he's the one who, you know, 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: if you weren't late, for if you weren't caught by 55 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: the dean when you were late for school, he was 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the one who would just like give the Dina heads 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: up that you were late. You know, is he right? Yeah? 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean technically maybe, But is it helpful? Is is 59 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: that is that the cool thing to do? Is that 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the right move? Is that showing good judgment? No? I 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: don't think the world's a better place because you didn't 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: get away with being ten minutes late to first period. 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's who Comey is. He's He's America's hall monitor. 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: It's not somebody that I have a lot of admiration 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: or respect for, and that's putting a modeling, not someone 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: that I can honestly stomach spending too much time reading 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: about or or analyzing. But we'll do some of it today. Um. 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: He also reminds me of some of the government employees 69 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: I knew who were really quick to point out if 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: anyone had violated even the most arcane regulation, even the 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: most minute in the NYPD that had the patrol guy 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: this big thick guide and you always knew. And this 73 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: was told me by different sergeants on on the force 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: that I worked with in my time there. You know, 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: you knew if somebody was on your on your side 76 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: or not, based on how deep in the weeds they 77 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: go in the patrol guy to find something to get 78 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: you onto Jammu Up. I remember a guy telling me that, 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: you know, when he worked in the equivalent of the 80 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Internal Affairs Bureau, there were the guys who I think 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: m IPD and I even forget. I think they call 82 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: it an investigations or whatever, but and it's it's the 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: it's what in the movies that have they know we're 84 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: from the Internal Affairs and all the all the good 85 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: guy cops who played by the road instet of rules 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: or super hostile to them. That's not how it works 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: out in real life internal affairs. In real life every 88 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: goes yes, sir, what do you need? Um? But there 89 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: were the guys who would as part of the internal 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: affairs component, they would get you on having your addresses 91 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: of the m y p D. If your address changed 92 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: and you didn't officially updated on your driver's license. They 93 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: make a big deal of that. Does anyone really care? 94 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: Are you not an effective law enforcement officer because the 95 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: records have you at the wrong address or something? If 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: you move because people move in New York all the 97 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: time because the rents are so expensive, and you know 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: you've got really no choice. Um. But you know that's 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: those Those are the differences between the people that you 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: can count on and the people that you can't write, 101 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: those who would go to the depths of of the 102 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: patrol guy to find a way to get you. And 103 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: that's who Comy is, except for himself, very clear about 104 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: that in this interview as well. He'll he'll find a 105 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: way to justify sending anyone else down the river, throwing 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: someone else under the bus. But he was always just 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: acting from the most pure motives. He was always the 108 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: guy who when he was breaking the rules, he was 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: doing it actually for the best possible intentions. That's what 110 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: he was really all about. So with that here, let's 111 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: get into some of the specifics from his his interview, like, 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: for example, where he talked about the the leak of 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: information that he had Comey leaks some stuff play clip one. 114 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Presidents tweeted innumerable times calling you a leaker. What's your 115 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: response to President Trump? Look, it's true. I mean I'm 116 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: the one who testified about it. That's how people know 117 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 1: about it. I gave that unclassified memo to my friend 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: and asked him to give it to a reporter. That 119 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: is entirely appropriate. Why not do it yourself? Why not 120 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: do it openly, transparently, For one very practical reason. At 121 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: the end of my driveway was a horde of media, 122 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: and my thought was, if I give it to one reporter, 123 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: then what's my answer to all the others about why 124 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: I won't answer their questions. That's not an answer that 125 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: that doesn't cut it right, because I wanted to be fair. 126 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: This is what I mean by you know, he's the 127 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: guy who the rules really apply to everyone else, but 128 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: not really to him. But he's he's holier than thou, 129 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: but he gives himself an indulgence when necessary. I had 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: to have a cutout give it to the paper because 131 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want to seem unfair. Well, then you're cut out. 132 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Is the guy who's being unfair, but you're the one 133 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: who empowered him. So how does that make any difference? 134 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: The answers, of course it doesn't. He's also stating that 135 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: the memo is unclassified. Well, according to Chuck Grassley in 136 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: the Senate, that's not true. And beyond that, even if 137 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: it's unclassified, the fact of the matter is that he 138 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: was using his access as the FBI director two wage 139 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: a personal war against the president to indulge a personal 140 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: vendetta against the person who he answered to in the 141 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: executive chain of command. There's this weird there's this weird 142 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: theory that the media has been running around with it 143 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: like the d o J and the FBI are are 144 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: really their own branch of government. And I think that 145 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: what's been on earth and all of this in part 146 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: is that they think of themselves as their own branch 147 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: at the very top level at least, I mean not 148 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the rank and file, but you know, FBI director or 149 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: attorney general. They think that they are in a separate 150 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: category of government. They're not just another executive branch employee. 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: And I think that that led to a very troubling 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: and obvious hubrists with people like James Comey. I mean, 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: this guy really thinks that he's just got a better 154 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: way all the time, and when he breaks the rules, 155 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it's because he knows the rules so very well. When 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: he does something that's wrong, it's because, oh, it's just 157 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: so right. It's really kind of a got a kind 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: of while when you think about it. Um. But so 159 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: he admitted that he leakes he leaked stuff, and he 160 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: says it's unclassifiedable. We'll see, we'll see. There are other 161 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: parts of the interview I think where we got a 162 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: much better sense even of how self serving all of 163 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: his justifications really are. One of the parts of it 164 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: that made me the most annoyed because he's not the 165 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: only one who has done this. You've had this from 166 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: former cy I director Brennan as well, but that they'll 167 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: suggest that like maybe Russia has got something on Trump, 168 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: still maybe they've got something on them, and given their 169 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: level of access to government information, including all kinds of 170 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: sensitive collection platforms that are out there, and investigations for 171 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: the FBI side of things too on national security related matters. 172 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: This suggestion, when you've just left that role, that there 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: maybe something that is compromising the President United States. He's 174 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: wildly irresponsible. It just is people can sit around and say, oh, no, 175 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, tell me he's he's great and he's doing 176 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: his best, and he just wants to serve his country. 177 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: And I see this and I say to myself, Uh, 178 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: he really is acting like a wounded, uh, wounded and 179 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: aggrieved high school kid here who gets to just lash 180 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: out and cause problems for the country because he has 181 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: problems with how he was fired. And I would know 182 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: it's not like he was fired in and it was 183 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's out on his butt on the street 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and he can't make a living. You know, I can't 185 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: can earn a dollar. The guy had plenty of ways 186 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: that he used to work. Doesn't talk about this very much. 187 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: I've brought it up here on the show. He worked 188 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: at one of the biggest hedge funds in the world 189 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: as an advisor for a while. I've told you in 190 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: part why I think that decision was made because he 191 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: was friends with pre Berrara, who was making a name 192 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: for himself as the U S. Attorney for the Southern 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: District of New York by going after very prominent hedge 194 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: funds on insider trading with insider trading probes and charges 195 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: in some cases. So it's a it's a good insurance 196 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: policy to have a guy on the payroll who could 197 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: get on the phone or maybe meet for lunch with 198 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: the U S Attorney and be like, hey, my guys 199 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: are good. You know. That's all you have to say. 200 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: By the way, nothing technically illegal about that, right. If 201 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: you're friends with the U S. Attorney and he says, 202 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, hey, how are things going at that place, 203 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: he goes, oh, yeah, my guys are all They're all good, 204 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: they don't do anything bad. There's nothing illegal about that, 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: And the U S Attorney gets the message without having 206 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: to get the message. Maybe he wants to be in 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: on the uh gonna be an advisor to a major 208 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: hedge fund, later, wants to be on the board of 209 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: some companies, or in the case of pre Varr, wants 210 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: to run over to CNN and be a CNN analyst 211 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: right away. And apart joined the hashtag resistance, which is 212 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: what he has done. Um, but this is this interview 213 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: went on. It was a full hour when for a 214 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: long time and Stephanopolis, who I have to say, And 215 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't mean this in a mean way, but Stephanopolis 216 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: is one of the great mysteries to me. I don't 217 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: understand how he has the job that he has. I 218 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: could not be I mean, yeah, he's a Clinton operative. 219 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: He knows a lot of the Clinton people, and I 220 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: get that there are connections, but the fact that they 221 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: think they have to pay this guy a hundred million 222 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: dollars to to ask a lot of questions that anyone 223 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: would ask him, by the way, to not ask some 224 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: questions that should have been asked. What were some of those? 225 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: I'll get into all that and more. I want to 226 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: hear from all you folks if you would like to 227 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: chat with me, not even California. So it's always nice 228 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: to hear from the team when I'm on the road 229 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: eight four four eight to five eight four or four 230 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: nine hundred bucks. So we're gonna get into a little 231 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: more because there's some very important stories that intersect with 232 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: this coming interview, right, So it's not just me sitting 233 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: here making fun of him for being a lanky, weirdo 234 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: with no self awareness, although that's a part of it too. Uh. 235 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: There are some some stories that we get a little 236 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: additional insight on or information that well, a whole bunch 237 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: of different stories that that came into this interview. So 238 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: we'll do some of that this hour, and then I'll 239 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: talk to you about the National Guard situation with California 240 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: and the border, how Trump's actually doing versus how the 241 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: media pretends he's doing with the country, with the economy. Uh. 242 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Follow up on the serious strikes. I'm still um skeptical 243 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: of how useful or or important they were in the 244 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. In the third hour, some random topics. 245 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: I think we'll be talking about sugar wokeness and how 246 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: it affects the way that we couldn't like sugar. That's 247 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: a topic, Oh it is on this show. Uh. And 248 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: there's one other thing that I was hoping to talk 249 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: to you about the third hour, and I'm totally blanking 250 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: what it is now, but it's gonna be amazing that much, 251 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: I can promise you. All Right, team hitting a quick break, 252 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. This is a man without courage. 253 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: He didn't have courage to tell the President to his 254 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: face he was wrong. Instead, he leaked it. He didn't 255 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: have courage to walk out of the meeting, which he 256 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: said was an improper meeting when he was in the 257 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: presence of the president. He showed no courage. Look, I 258 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons that the President talks to 259 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: me from time time as I tell him exactly what 260 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: I think. At every point in time, I told Obama 261 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: what I thought, I told Clinton what I thought. If 262 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: you're the head of the FBI, you gotta look the 263 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: president in the eye and you have sas president, you're wrong. 264 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: I agree with the dirsh I've been staying on a 265 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: lot like it. But it's true. Comy is is posing 266 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: as some kind of moral hero all the time. Let 267 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: in reality he's really kind of a self serving snake. 268 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Why not Why do you have to get fired? Let's 269 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: just start with let's start with some of these very 270 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: basic questions. Why don't you get fired? Why couldn't he resign? 271 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: If Trump is, as he says, such a stain on 272 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: government and the FBI and all the others, all the 273 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: other really really terrible stuff that Comey says about the 274 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: current president United States, Why don't you get pushed out? 275 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it seem like a pretty straightforward thing to say, Oh, 276 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: hold on a second, Um, if he was so bad, 277 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: then I think it's fair to say that you should 278 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: have known he was so bad. And the way for 279 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: a public official to stand on principle is not to 280 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: try to protect his or her job and uh perks 281 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: and prerogative, but actually to say, hold on, I'm gonna 282 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: say this is wrong now and have an impact by resigning, now, 283 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: you know. I just I thought it was um very 284 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: telling that in all this talk with Comy, by the way, 285 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: it never comes across that this is a guy who, 286 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: when it might go against his interests, is brave what 287 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: it might go against his interests, will speak truth to power. 288 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: And there were so many things he said that we're 289 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: also just complete another craft. I mean going into the 290 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: transcript here for a second. Uh, he said, Well, for 291 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of reasons. It's sort of built over the 292 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: course of the investigation. First of all, we had the 293 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: problem that President Obama had twice publicly basically said there 294 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: was no there there in an interview with Fox on 295 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: Fox in an interview in sixty minutes. I think both 296 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: times he said that George step Anopolis and he said, 297 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: so that's his Justice Department. Stephanopolis says, did that surprise you? 298 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: It really did surprise me. He's a very smart man 299 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: and a lawyer, and so it surprised me. He shouldn't 300 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: have done it. It was inappropriate. So Obama saying that 301 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: there was no there there in the Hillary investigations inappropriate. 302 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: Did Comey ever, stopped to think that maybe it's more 303 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: than inappropriate. Maybe it was effectively a command given two 304 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Laretta Lynch and whoever else was at d o J 305 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: involved in this to make sure that this happened that way. 306 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: You know, if you think about it in another context, 307 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: if somebody went on TV, let's say that the CEO 308 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: of a company, and you know, he was like, well, 309 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: everybody should sell all of my uh my top company officers, 310 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: they should all sell their stock, and they did that 311 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: before there was gonna be some really bad news. Uh, 312 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: that would be a problem, right. People would say, well, 313 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's uh the lead guy is 314 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: adding a tony here. That's really bad. And by the 315 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: way that I mean, if it's inside information or something. 316 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Somebody could go to prison for that, but it would 317 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: be considered a signal. It doesn't matter if he says 318 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: it's the individual. If he's like, yeah, I mean look, 319 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: if I held stock, I'd sell it right now. That's 320 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: all you need, all the all the necessary folks who 321 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: know what's going on, they would take that as okay, Well, 322 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: the guy at the top is saying, you know, sell, 323 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: so we gotta sell. And when the guy at the 324 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: top in this case, Obama says there's no they're they're 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: guess what. Who who at the d J. Let's let's 326 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: like walk this back for a second. Who the d 327 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: J is gonna say? You know what? Obama just told 328 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: the whole country that Hillary's email investigation is like a 329 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: is a nothing burger, But I would like to make 330 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: it a sudden something burger with cheese. I would like 331 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: to add some special sauce and grilled onions to the 332 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: something burger that I'm going to make of Hillary's email investigation. 333 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's gonna do that. Then we could 334 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: all agree, right, I'm not I'm not pushing too far here. 335 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going off and it never never land. There's 336 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: no one at the d O Jay, who, after Obama 337 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: had publicly said there's nothing going on, there was going 338 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: to say otherwise full stop. Your life would have been 339 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: made miserable. Oh you would have Can you imagine the 340 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: d It doesn't matter what level you are, all of 341 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're gonna get all of your all your 342 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: communications audited. Your family. You know your family is gonna 343 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: have people parked outside their house. You know, reporters are 344 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna be all over the whole thing. So what did 345 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: call me do? He goes along to get along? Meanwhile, 346 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: he's the last honest cop in America even there was 347 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: never actually a cop, you know what I mean. He 348 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: acts like he was Mr FBI g Man kicking indoors. 349 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: That was also not something he was ever doing. Comy 350 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: is a politically connected lawyer, and that's it. And that's 351 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: what came across in the interview. We got a lot 352 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: more stay with me. He's holding the line for America Bucks. 353 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: Next it is back a couple of years back, he 354 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: gave a speech saying, if we fall in love with 355 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: our own virtue, we can go sideways. At any point 356 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: over the last two years, did you fall prey to that? 357 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: Did you fall in love with your own virtue. I 358 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: don't think so, but I worried about it constantly. And 359 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: the guard rail for that, because that's a big worry 360 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: I have about myself, was to surround myself with people 361 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: who will hit that, hit at the certainty, hit at 362 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: the pride, to make sure I've thought about things well. 363 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna teach. I'm gonna travel around and speak about leadership, 364 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: but I want to offer them a vision of here's 365 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: what it should look like. Values matter. This president does 366 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: not reflect the values of this country. He I don't 367 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: know if you call this. He's too virtuous to fall 368 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: in love with his own virtue. That was his answer, 369 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: And that is how he feels about it. By the way, 370 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: that comy can't hear you over the sound of how 371 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: awesome he is. That's what he's trying to tell you. 372 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: M This guy is a real piece of work, really 373 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: is Uh. That's not a problem that normal people have. 374 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: Are they falling in love with how how virtuous they are? 375 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: And I think somebody I would tell you this. And 376 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: I have friends who are on the prosecutorial side, federal prosecutors, 377 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: some people who are very actually very close friends of 378 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: mine are prosecutors and uh, and they struggle with this, 379 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, they struggle with what's what's fair, what's just 380 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: and not just? Well, that's what the rules are. The 381 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: rules are the rules. Put that person away for twenty years. 382 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: The rules are the rules. Because they know that the 383 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: rules are subject to interpretation, there are gray areas. Some 384 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: people get the benefit of the doubts. Some people what 385 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: I had, I had a Jesuity used to say, the 386 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: doubt of the benefit is that a thing? I don't 387 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: know if that's a thing or not. The doubt of 388 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: the benefit, um, but you know what, what we're going 389 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: for with that, and you comey is reflective of a 390 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: system that I think very obviously has been corrupted. It's 391 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: been corrupted in some very serious ways. I was asked 392 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: earlier today, you know, what do you think about This 393 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: was by a friend out here in California. What do 394 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: you think about the swamp? I said, well, let's just 395 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: take a step back for a moment. When you have 396 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: had the intense politicization of academia, college campuses, colleges across 397 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: the country, and universities, of law schools, of graduate schools, 398 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: and of the media, entertainment media more so than than 399 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: anything else. But news media too, although I don't know, 400 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: maybe their neck and neck. I mean they're both nine 401 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: plus percent liberal. But when you've had that happen, and 402 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: then you have certain career tracks within the federal government 403 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: that put certain schools and background and educational achievement of 404 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: one kind or another, you know, elevate that. Yeah, that 405 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: then it really matters. When law schools are all social 406 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: justice warrior factories, and most of them have become that now, 407 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: and most of these advanced degree programs that aren't specifically 408 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: related to a a real discipline, right, I mean, if 409 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: you're getting a master's or a PhD and applied mathematics, 410 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: I think that that's probably not going to be too politicized. 411 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: But with the rest of them, because they're so left wing, 412 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: that matters. That's why you have all these state department 413 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: people and FBI people, because they go to these left 414 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: wing well and the best schools, I'll just say it, 415 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the most elite, the most uh hard to get into. 416 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: They're not nearly as elite as they think they are 417 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: because of all the different diversity demands and social justice 418 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: warrior initiatives that are on hand at any given time. 419 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: But you know, they're the best of what we've got 420 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the eliteism of their admissions. And yeah, 421 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: that means it. Now you're gonna have a lot of 422 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, Sally Yates hates Trump, McCabe hates Trump. You know, uh, 423 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: Comey obviously hates trauma. You got on the line. You know, 424 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: Brendon hates Trump, Clapper hates Trump. What do all these people? 425 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: How is it possible that we can't have one person 426 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: from the prior administration that's in a supposedly non political 427 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: role who is in fact non political. All these very 428 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: senior government officials who you know, they just want to 429 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: be right on the front lines of opposition to Trump 430 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: and his agenda. And it can't be a coincidence. There's 431 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: something bigger going on here. And I think this is 432 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: a big part of of what the swamp really is. 433 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: And I think that Comey is an example of exactly 434 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: how out of control much of this is. I mean, 435 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: Comey somebody who, as I was saying, has made decisions 436 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: at key points in his career that show that he's 437 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: a political player, and of the decisions that he made 438 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: had a real impact on history. And I think he relished. 439 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: He pretends in this interview with Stephanopolis to dread it, 440 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: to have all of this on the one hand. On 441 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: the other and you know, he he poses as someone 442 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: who you know is losing sleep over this all the time. 443 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: And I don't even think that it's a case where 444 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: you could say that, you know, Comy is like the 445 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: punchest pilot of all this. You know, well, you know, 446 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: whatever the whatever, I'm supposed to do, whatever the people 447 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: want here. No, he had an agenda the whole time. 448 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: He in a gendera the whole time, and it was 449 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: whatever's gonna make him look the best, whatever would allow 450 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: him to be the best commist that he could be 451 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: very important part of the There's so much in the interview, 452 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: touches on the Hillary email investigation, the tarmac, Lauretta Lynch 453 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: and all that. UM. A few things that I wanted 454 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: to get because I could talk about this at length 455 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: and not really hit on some very meaty point pins 456 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: that we need to we need to do um And 457 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to avoid it though, And before we close 458 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: this out, I might have to get into some of 459 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: the the really petty, childish stuff. So in the one hand, 460 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: you've got this guy who's like, you know, I'm I'm 461 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: the conscience of America. I'm going to go around and 462 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: give speeches on ethics and leadership and it's all about 463 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: the truth and being more than just somebody who's out 464 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: for the self and all this. And then he's like, 465 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: but I didn't like the shoes the president was wearing. 466 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought that the president is not 467 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: as handsome as he thinks he is and stuff like that. 468 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: You're just his hands aren't that big. His hair is 469 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: kind of weird. Why do that unless you can't help 470 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: yourself because you're a huge phony, which is you know, 471 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: does he call him phony comy because he probably should. 472 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I know he's been great lion comey and grandstanding comby. 473 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: I think phony comy is better better, although I I 474 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: do like my formulation of sancta coomy. He is very 475 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: sancta comus. Uh. But here's the the part of it 476 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: that some of the parts that I thought were particularly 477 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: worthwhile from the and I won't make you sit through 478 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: and listen to too much of his of the clips. 479 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you watched this, but if 480 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: we're if we're analyzing this together, some very worthwhile moments 481 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: that struck me, like, for example, on the whole notion 482 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: of the tarmac meeting and how that came about. The 483 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: truth is that he's never had a real, really worthwhile 484 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: explanation for this. Here quote, I don't know what they 485 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: talked about. This is for remember, Rhoda Lynch is having 486 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: a personal meeting with Bill Clinton while his wife is 487 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: under FBI investigation for actually breaking federal laws, which is 488 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 1: what she did. She broke the law. They didn't charge her, 489 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: but she broke the law. Okay, And any person who 490 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: looks at this realizes this stinkst I haven't and only that. 491 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: But Comey excuses this while simultaneously using it as the 492 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: justification for being the one who steps in front of 493 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: the American people and says there should be no charge 494 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: against Hillary. So it's not that bad the tarmac meeting, 495 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: he will say, But also, oh, I had to step 496 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: in front and give that whole speech about the extreme carelessness. Right. 497 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: And when when Steph Stephanopolis asked him about the tarmac meeting, 498 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: he said, I don't know what they talked about. I 499 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: credit Lauretta Lynch because I think she's an honest person, 500 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: saying we talked about grandchildren and other things. I find 501 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: it hard to believe that Bill Clinton would have tried 502 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: to obstruct justice by walking across the tarmac in front 503 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: of a bunch of FBI agents. Okay, here's another interpretation 504 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: on this one that I think is much more in 505 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: line with how the Clinton's approach everything. Of course, they 506 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: thought that they could do this. Hillary was able to 507 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: get away with the email thing. Hillary was. There's never 508 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: been a real investigation of the Clinton Foundation, despite what 509 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: is so blatantly and obviously a massive influenced peddling scheme 510 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: where the sitting Secretary of State was effectively selling influence 511 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: to her foundation on the premise that would turn into 512 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: influence with the next president United States. And you know, 513 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: the husband taking enormous fees to give speeches while his 514 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: wife is Secretary of State from foreign governments, my friends, 515 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: And somehow this is not a big thing. You know 516 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: that they can go in there and seize Michael Cohen, 517 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: the personal lawyer for president from sees his attorney client 518 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: privileged documents. But we've never really had anyone looked long 519 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: and hard at the Clinton Foundation. The reason that Loretta 520 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: Lynch was so reckless about meeting with Bill Clinton on 521 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: the tarmac is because they figured we're at the top 522 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: of this system. We run the swamp, nothing's gonna happen 523 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: to us, so of course we can do this. It's 524 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: it's a similar thinking too with with hooting and the 525 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: way that he uses or his you know, his people 526 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: will use nova chuk or polonium to poison someone. You 527 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: might say to yourself, well, why would you use a 528 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: chemical weapon that is so obviously going to be tied 529 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: back to Russia? That's the point, because he can. What 530 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: are we gonna do. We're gonna throw more sanctions on him? 531 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: Oo Putin's really scared, right If it doesn't matter, why 532 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: do it? Because you can? Why would Loretta Lynch meet 533 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton because they wanted to talk about whatever 534 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: they were talking about. I think quite clearly she probably 535 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: gave him a very um vaguely worded but clear enough 536 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: for him to understand Na that don't worry, we got 537 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: this covered. You know Hillary is gonna be fine, and 538 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: that's all that was needed. Yeah, because think about the 539 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: risks of what they're doing. If they really thought they'd 540 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: get in trouble, how stupid can you be? No, they 541 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: know that they're above the system. They know that they're 542 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: above the law. And that's why. Remember Laura Lynch never 543 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: even refused herself. Okay, you've got Jeff Sessions, who's just 544 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: trying to be a good, honorable guy, who pulled himself 545 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: out of the bar fight that is the Russia collusion 546 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: investigation because he thinks that's the right thing to do. 547 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch is right in the middle of the bar 548 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: fight over Hillary Clinton's EMIL investigation and didn't even didn't 549 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: even start to didn't stop the think for a second, 550 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I should I should accuse myself from this. 551 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: This looks dirty, this looks bad. Another thing in all this, 552 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: and because look they covered a lot of ground is 553 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: a long interview, right, I think ten million people watching, 554 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: more people watch Stormy Daniels. Though, I'm just saying more 555 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: interest in Stormy Daniels Trump thing than there wasn't. I 556 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: don't know. It's salacious, and it's a word that's gotten 557 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: a lot of use over last year. We should come 558 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: up with something else, maybe scirreless, you know, I don't 559 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: know that there needs to be some other It's the 560 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: salacious dossier, the salacious allegations against Trump. There's gotta be 561 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: something else. Dossier another word that. Now, dossier was a thing. 562 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: And now if you say the dossier ever knows what 563 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about. But on the notion of or on 564 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: the issue of classified information, this was an important part 565 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: of all this, James Comey, with that, this is about 566 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: the Hillary email stuff. Reason number two. I have to 567 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: talk about it very carefully. Classified information came into the 568 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: possession of the U. S Intelligence community in the early 569 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: part of it indicated there was material out there that 570 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: raised the question of whether Loretta Lynch was controlling me 571 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: and the FBI and keeping the Clinton campaign informed about 572 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: our investigation. Now I don't believe that, and I don't 573 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: believe that's true, but there was material that I knew 574 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: someday when it's declassified, and I thought it would be 575 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: decades in the future, would cause historians to wonder, was 576 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: there some strange business going on? There was Loretta Lynch 577 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: somehow carrying water for the campaign and controlling what the 578 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: FBI did. This is a massive steamy pile of you 579 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: know what, This is just atrocious. This is so beyond 580 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: what anyone could reasonably be expected to believe. James Comey 581 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: is saying here, I can't tell you about it, can't 582 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: give any specifics, and it wouldn't come out for decades. 583 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a guy who really worries about 584 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: his legacy. But I'm not in love with my own virtue, 585 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: because I'm too virtuous to be in love with my virtue. 586 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: But let me just say that I was. I was 587 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: worried about those historians in decades from now, when they're 588 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: thinking about building a life size statue of Comy at 589 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: twelve feet tall, and when they're worried about what has 590 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: happened in the past, they might look at this and say, well, 591 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: there was this now declassified information that Comey says it's 592 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: not credible, but that made them think that maybe Loretta 593 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Lynch was involved investigator. I mean, this is this is 594 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: just it's just nonsense. It's not real. What does this 595 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: even mean? He's worried about what historians are gonna think 596 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: in a few decades. Who thinks that way? Who the 597 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: who the heck is gonna care in a few decades? Well, 598 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: what does he's really worried? But this is I don't 599 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: know if it's more that he's delusional at the legacy 600 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: of comey or then he really thinks that he can 601 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: just get away with making something up his own story. 602 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: It's class pod can't tell you about it, which I 603 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: guess he he does think he can do that. But 604 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: that's just a non factor in all of this um 605 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: and and ultimately his his whole justification for the decision 606 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: they came to on the Hillary emails, it's just garbage 607 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: and not letting it. If Lauretta Lynch couldn't be the 608 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: one to make the statement the American people, why couldn't 609 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: her number two? It had to come from the FBI. 610 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: That's a total that's a comy decision. That is, it 611 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: was the ultimate grand standard move, the ultimate grand standard move. 612 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: And you could say, well, Buck, why would he later 613 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: on talk about the Wiener investigation. Look, I didn't make 614 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: up the name, all right, that's what else? What else 615 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: am I gonna call it? Don't don't look at me 616 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: the Ween they're investigating Weener. Get your mind out of 617 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: the gutter. Um. But what are they gonna They're gonna 618 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: suppress that information, take the act of step of not 619 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: letting the public know they're looking into Wiener's Oh gosh, 620 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: we're looking at the weiner server. So oh, I gotta 621 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: run a break. All right, We'll be our back. Sorry. 622 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: It was the first time he met Donald Trump. What 623 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: was your impression? He had impressively quaffed hair that looks 624 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: to be all his I confess I stared at it 625 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: pretty closely, and my reaction was I must take gackle 626 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: of time in the morning. Tie was too long, as 627 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: it always is. He looked slightly orange up close, with 628 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: small white um half moons under his eyes, which I 629 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: assume are from tanning goggles. What does this have to 630 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: do with anything? Why is the former FBI director talking 631 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: about the current president United States like he's a you know, 632 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: a sixth grade girl on no offense to sixth grade girls, 633 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: but come on, didn't like his hair. Looks like he's 634 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: a handing bad guys. An embarrassment. Grayson in Mesa, Arizona. 635 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: What are you think of my friend field side Buck 636 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: against oss here? Hey, um, you know I just picked 637 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: up here brit Hume with Brett there this afternoon on 638 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: Fox UM, and he was pointing out a lot of 639 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: things that were left out, the questionable things that were 640 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: cut out, key questions that Stephanopolis was asking, we've only 641 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: got about forty seconds, my friend, So what are some 642 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: of them? Well, the questions that regarding comey um uh, 643 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: him taking on and assuming roles that are delegated to 644 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: like the justice of partner where he became instead of 645 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: his role as the FBI director, he was became judge, 646 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: jury and execute. Yeah, he was running the DJ and 647 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: the FBI by is by his own decision. Grace and 648 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you calling him and I gotta run into the 649 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: next block here. He's back with you now, because when 650 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. 651 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to our two of the Bucks extent show, my friends. 652 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: Great to have you here. So we we've gone through 653 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: a lot of the comy stuff. I want to I 654 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: want to move past. I want to move past coomy palooza. 655 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Like no Buck, Buck, We've got a favor and the 656 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: only prescription is more comy, not true. I know you've 657 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: had enough, probably of comy. I've had enough at this point. 658 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: I do. I think it's done now too, meaning it's 659 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: fading away. He doesn't have staying power, you know. He 660 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: has all the charm of a of a recently divorced 661 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: I R. S auditor who's just looking to looking to 662 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: rage at the world. You know what I mean. It's 663 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: not good. It's not good. He's he's in a rough space. 664 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: He's he's not a guy that people really are gonna 665 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: want to have around all that much. And I haven't 666 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: even gotten a see it just happens. I was gonna 667 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: start making fun of his, like Zen Lake tweets that 668 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: he puts out. And also I saw something greasing. I 669 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: thought it must be photoshopper. He's like doing a jumping 670 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: jack or something and he's like, yeah, you come anyway. 671 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: We're moving on from that though, But it's all that 672 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: stuff is important. His his justifications for what he did 673 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: are not compelling. Um. He holds other people to a 674 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: very extreme standard within the law, but holds himself to 675 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: whatever standard he comes up with. UM. And he is 676 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: very very sanctimonious. But there's some real stuff that's also 677 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: happening right now that has to do with the law 678 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: on how people are tree dude within the context of 679 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: the law, whether it is it is fair or not 680 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: to them. Uh. And Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, has had 681 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: his stuff seized, as you know, We've talked about it 682 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: here and just today a judge has said that there 683 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: well that a judge has denied the temporary restraining order 684 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: that Cohen has asked for with regard to all of 685 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: his um all of his everything. Really, I mean, they 686 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: seized all of his stuff. And imagine someone came into 687 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: your home. Not just someone, Imagine the FBI came in 688 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: and took all of your documents, your phones, your computers, 689 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: and was able to go through everything and without any 690 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: prohibitions on what could be seen. Now you're gonna, I 691 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: understand what the what the left and the Democrat, the 692 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: anti Trump folks they say here is Oh no, don't worry. 693 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna bring in a taint team, which is what 694 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: it is called, and they will try to separate out 695 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: what is privileged from what is not. Well, here's the thing. 696 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: Once they already have it that doesn't really feel like 697 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy. Once the 698 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: FBI or once the people from the Department of Justice, 699 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: once federal prosecutors have access this information, guess what the 700 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: tie is gonna go to the prosecutor here. If it's 701 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: close to not being privileged, guess what it's not privileged. 702 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: If there's any way they could justify it not being privileged. 703 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Guess what, that's where it's gonna go. And then there's 704 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: another level too of when you know, think aback, think 705 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: back to when you were in school. You're like me 706 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: and you were not somebody who really liked math, and 707 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: there were copies of the textbook that had the answers 708 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: in the back, and the whole thing was, you know, 709 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna you know, you're you're gonna get to the 710 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: you're able to check your own work that way. But 711 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: I have to admit sometimes I was like, wow, oh, 712 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, I got the answer here, and I'm just 713 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: kinda I'm gonna kind of make up how I got 714 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: there and just make sure I've got the answer. That's 715 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: always the temptation. If prosecutors have all this information handy. Now, 716 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: I know people are gonna say the taint team is 717 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: going to separate it out. But the the taint team, 718 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: first of all, they work for the they work for 719 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: the the other side. There for the other team, people 720 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: are gonna say, oh, they're not gonna be there. It's 721 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna be independent independent, how they all know what they're 722 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: working on. When you can tell me these people don't 723 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: talk Oh, yeah, sure, you're you're gonna After all, we've 724 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: seen all the shenanigans with Loretta Lynch, the tarmac meeting Hillary, 725 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: the emails, breaking the blackberries, using bleach bit to erase 726 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: their hard drives and no charges there. And you know, 727 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: after all the stuff we have seen to shake our 728 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: confidence in the nonpartisan nature of the Department of Justice, 729 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: now they want us to be like, yeah, I mean, 730 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: so they got all of Trump's lawyer stuff, but they're 731 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna be really judicious about what they keep what they don't. Right, 732 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: this is laughable, This is preposterous. And to finish off 733 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: my math answer analogy, I still have nightmares about being 734 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: in the middle of math exams that I'm not doing 735 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: well and and it's it's like a stress to this day, 736 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, I have like a dream where it's like no, 737 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I can't do quadratic equations anymore. 738 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: But they well, once they have the answers, they can 739 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: find other ways to get there, meaning once they have 740 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: the information, they'll find another way to get it, not 741 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: through the process of what the FBI just sees, you know, 742 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: And you could say, well, buck, you know, if if 743 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: Cohen's done anything shady, then he deserves whatever he gets. 744 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: And to that, I just respond, you know, you don't 745 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: know anyone who hasn't done anything shady. If you're doing stuff, 746 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: and if the government wants to wants to make an 747 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: example of you, they'll find a way to make it 748 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: look like you're shady. You know. One of the things 749 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: that I actually talk about in the earlier days of 750 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: the Buck Section show, one of the the the favorite 751 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: topics that I would hit that I felt like never 752 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: got enough attentions. One my mantras here, right, I like 753 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: to do things that I think are really important, but 754 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: other people are focused on other stuff. It was over criminalization, 755 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: and I became very familiar with all these different stories 756 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: of people that faced really serious repercussions and meant, in 757 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: some cases, pretty long stretches in prison for conduct that 758 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: not only wasn't criminal in nature, but wasn't even problematic 759 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: or damaging in terms of what it really did, but 760 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: just violated some either obscure or uh, you know, obscure 761 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: iss a good But sometimes it's really it's not even 762 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: just that it's obscured, it's it's that they don't even 763 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: know if it's a statute or not that they don't 764 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: even the people enforcing it aren't clear on what's covered 765 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: and what's not. So how are you supposed to know? Oh, 766 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: ignorance of the law is not not a defense. Well, actually, 767 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: when you're talking about some of the stuff, ignorance the 768 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: law should be a defense. But I bring that up 769 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: just because when you're more familiar with those cases. And 770 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: there's a book even written by a Harvey silver Gate, uh, 771 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: three Felonies a Day, where he says, you know you're 772 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: you're committing felonies every day, you don't even know it. 773 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't make you bad person, doesn't mean you go 774 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: to jail. But if you were really being strict in 775 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: your application a law, you're probably committing felonies on a 776 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: pretty regular basis. Um. One of the ones that comes 777 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: up often is exceeding authorized use of a computer and 778 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: how people do that without realizing it, um. And and 779 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: also just exceeding the terms of service and what that 780 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: can mean all kinds of stuff. Maybe we could have 781 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: you be interesting to. I'll go, you know, that's a 782 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: book that I've cited before, and I'll be on and 783 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: I just know the title, haven't read it, so now 784 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: I've just given myself a little additional homework. I'll go back, 785 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: I'll check that one out. But if they have all 786 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: your stuff and they want to get you, they will. 787 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: That's the point. There's a way to get you. And 788 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: if you're a lawyer and you've been dealing with clients 789 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: who have complicated legal relationships with international entities and a deal, like, 790 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to get you the same way 791 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: that I think it's Donald Rumsfeld some years ago admit 792 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: or the I'm not admitted, but but offered that he 793 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: writes a letter every year the I R S where 794 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: he's like, I've I've done the best I can with this, 795 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: but I know that if you really come after me, 796 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: you'll tell me that some of this is wrong. Just 797 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: understand that I can't understand this, and I have a 798 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: lot of resources, and I'm a really smart guy, and 799 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: I've done my best. And he actually sends that letter 800 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: to the I R S every year just to make 801 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: a point. And he's right. If they if they wanted 802 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: to overturn all of his books and look at all 803 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: this stuff, uh, they wanted to pour through it, they 804 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: would find they would find things that are wrong. And 805 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe could even make a case that some of it 806 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: was it was criminal in nature, a criminal violation of 807 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: the tax code, even by accident. And the same thing 808 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: is true to the broader tax codes. So that's when 809 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: people say, oh, we've got a taint team. We're gonna 810 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 1: separate out the stuff that uh, he's attorney client privileg 811 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 1: from what's not. That's that's a judgment call, and that 812 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: you're already putting a lot of weight on the side 813 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: of what the prosecutors want and what they're gonna get 814 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: when they have possession of this, when it's when it's 815 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: something that they already have and uh in their hands. 816 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: Um and and it's all meant to show that they'll 817 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: just do anything to get to get Trump and his people. 818 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: And it was tied into the article I I've mentioned 819 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: as well about how article I read over the weekend 820 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: about how Trump the whole president is coming to an end, 821 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: which I'll talk to you more about later on. But 822 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: that's not happening, but they think it is. And they 823 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: think that this latest tough guy tactic of taking all 824 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: of Cohen's information, taking all of his electronic devices, pouring 825 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: through his files. I sometimes want to ask. I wish 826 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 1: I could sit down and actually force people at places 827 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: like MSNBC and CNN to answer the question, why do 828 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: they really think they're gonna find? What do they think 829 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: they could produce at this point? Realistically? Although what's realistic 830 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: for them? I don't know's I think they're all stuck 831 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: in a delusion. But realistically, that would not only show 832 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: that what they think about Trump is true, but also 833 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: that his base would say, people like me even would say, yeah, 834 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's too much. Come on, what's it really 835 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: going to be. It's just not not gonna happen. But 836 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: it's troubling to see that with all the all the 837 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: politicization of the judicial process that has occurred in the 838 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: Trump era, right the primary, the general election, and afterwards, 839 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: all the stuff we've seen, people like Comy are the 840 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: ones making the decisions about what attorney client privilege does 841 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: and does not mean for Trump, and they expect us 842 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: to believe that that's fine, that there's no problem here, 843 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: then he'll get a fair shake. The swamp is deep, 844 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: my friends, The swamp is very very deep. Eight four 845 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: four five You want to chat eight four four I 846 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: gotta talk to you about this latest situation with California 847 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: and the National Guard. One of the one of the 848 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: more interesting UM questions I asked people out here is, 849 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: so what do you think about governance in California? And 850 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: I've been trying to talk to as many folks is 851 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: as I can about that. Oh you know, I sat 852 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: next to a guy at breakfast today who I won't 853 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: say which one, but I know from a farm from 854 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: one of these commercials where they they are advertising a 855 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: and he's an actor, right, he's not. He's not actually 856 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: somebody that suffers from the condition. Um. But I sat 857 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: next like, that's the guy from that commercial, and he's like, yeah, 858 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: I've got a I've got an embarrassing condition. You know. 859 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, that's the guy from the commercial. 860 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: And I thought of myself. You know, I never people 861 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: that I don't know but you know from something. I 862 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: almost never will go up with them in santydaying or whatever. 863 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: And although all of you have you ever see me 864 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: anywhere because I so rarely actually have person to person 865 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: contact with members of Team Buck that like, by all 866 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: means come over and give me a high five, you know, 867 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,799 Speaker 1: we can have a drink. But I was sitting there 868 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: was like, does this guy like it when people say, hey, 869 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: you're the guy from the commercial. It the guy with 870 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: the problem, the problem, you know, the problem with the thing. 871 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, I got an 872 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: embarrassing medical issue. But he doesn't actually have it right, 873 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: So that's so he's an actor playing a guy with 874 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: an embarrassing medical issue. And do you think your stuff? 875 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: You're like, well, you know, do you want to be 876 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: the in public? You know, I think the answers you 877 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: leave the guy aload no matter what, obviously, but I 878 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: just thought it's kind of funny. I was like, yeah, 879 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: I like them. People like, hey are you Buck? I'm like, 880 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: I am indeed, um, but I'm known for different things. 881 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,959 Speaker 1: All right. Uh, the California situation that we'll talk about 882 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: that stay with me. I got some calls up, but 883 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: I've also got to talk to you about what's going 884 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: on with California and the National Guard sent that's supposed 885 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: to be sent to the border. But Scott in Long Beach, Mississippi, 886 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: you're up first. Scott, Hey, Hey, how are you doing? 887 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: But I'm good. Thanks for the call. I just had 888 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: a angle to add on the radar on Cohen's office. 889 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: One thing I ever heard anybody bring up is uh, yeah, 890 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: I think they they're looking for any criminal stuff they 891 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 1: can find. But right now, a team of n FBI 892 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: agents is going to get to review this stuff. But 893 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: even if Trump's lawyer, if the Laurie wins the court 894 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: and gets it reviewed by a master, I've heard that 895 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: master is going to be a judge. Well if that 896 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: judge is no Obama pointing, what if this is just 897 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: all one big fishing expedition to look for stuff to 898 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: use against Trump in the election? Right? Well, I've been 899 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: saying this too, that I think that some of the information, 900 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 1: forget about whether it's used in a legal proceeding against 901 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: Trump for any of his people. I think you may 902 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: see leaks of it exactly. And now we're talking about 903 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: the equivalent of you know, what about is it okay 904 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: if somebody can the FBI come in and sees uh, 905 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, a president's medical records, or then just all 906 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden stuff gets leaked. I mean it just 907 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 1: seems strange. Well what it surprives you? I mean, look, 908 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: look how they haven't gone after a leak or so 909 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: far coming people they convicted the leak in anything well, 910 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: all this stuff is that. That's a very good point. 911 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: It's not that hard to get. You know. You'll notice 912 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: that of all the of all the anti Trump leaks 913 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: out there, there has not been a single conviction of 914 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: number my conviction, not even a single person charged. And 915 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: these are leaks that would have come from a pretty 916 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: small circle of individuals. I mean, you look at the 917 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: leak over the phone call between the Russian ambassador and 918 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: incoming National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. There's not a lot 919 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: of people that have access to this stuff exactly, So 920 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: the SDI gets to look at all his tony clients information. 921 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: Was to keep that from leaking like a sieve to 922 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: the d n C and of the Democrats to start 923 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: digging up all the dirt they can possibly dig up 924 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: before election. No, I I see it the way you do. 925 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a big problem. Scott, so will continue 926 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: to follow closely, and I appreciate you calling in Shields 927 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: high So this California story, I just mentioned it, but 928 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: it's I'm here in Cali, I'm in l A, So 929 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it caught my eye. In particular, such 930 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: a lovely state. I mean, the water here is so 931 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: beauty full, the food so great. People are really fun. 932 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: But the government here is just just bonkers. I mean, 933 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: they've got all kinds of problems. But now you're Governor 934 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Brown, who has rejected Trump's terms for the National 935 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: Guards deployment to the US Mexico border. They're supposed to 936 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: be four hundreds. Like it's not that big of uh, 937 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: not that big of a group here, but you know, 938 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: four hundred troops are supposed to be sent to the 939 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: border to help out, and they have determined, meaning that 940 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: Governor Brown has decided that the work that they would 941 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: be doing at the border is too close to immigration enforcement. Now, 942 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: my understanding is that the stuff that there would be 943 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: doing involves like vehicle maintenance. And here I'm trying to 944 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: see what the actual list is, because it's not that 945 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: they're not tracking, the National Guard is not grabbing and 946 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: arresting people trying to cross the border, And um, what 947 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: was the what were the specifics here? Uh? Hold on 948 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: a second, Oh yeah, here it is they would not 949 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: allow its troops to fix and repair vehicles, operate remote 950 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: control surveillance cameras, or perform other tasks under Trump's plan. 951 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean stuff that's not arresting people are 952 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 1: actively involved in immigration, uh law enforcement, they still won't 953 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: let they won't let them do. And this is just 954 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: another version of saying that that they are not they 955 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: are opposed. They've got the resources, right, Governor Brown here 956 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: in California, how's the resources at his disposal? He could 957 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: help out with the border sending some National Guard troops 958 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: down to the border. Other border state governors have completely 959 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: gone along with this. I think Trump says he's gonna 960 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: senda where he's asked for. Remember, the governors have to 961 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: all sign off on this. Trump's gonna ask for a 962 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: total of four thousand to help out with border related tasks, which, 963 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: especially as we get into some of the warmer months, 964 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: you have a lot higher rate of of border crossings. 965 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: So and I think they're acting a surge. You got 966 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: all this publicity around the so called caravan. That's not 967 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: the last caravan you're gonna see. It's certainly not well. 968 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: Mostly illegal crossings have nothing to do with caravans. There's 969 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: people crossing every day. But what can we think about 970 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: this other than Governor Jerry Brown doesn't really believe in 971 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: the mission of border patrol and the federal government's mission 972 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: of securing the border. I think he's just not someone 973 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: who believes him, you know. And this is not surprising 974 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: if you follow the trajectory of politics and states that 975 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: have a very large illegal alien population, they are now 976 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: states that are there are favorable toward a near open 977 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: border status. And this is why we can't even really 978 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,840 Speaker 1: have a very productive discussion with the Democrats, because it 979 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: used to be hey, and even a state like California be, hey, 980 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 1: how do we cut down on illegal crossings? You know 981 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 1: how the in the what to do about illegals in 982 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: the country was considered a separate part of the discussion. 983 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,839 Speaker 1: But everyone was as recently as I would say ten 984 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 1: years ago, everyone was, at least theoretically in the political 985 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: class on board for securing the border. There was a 986 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: bipartisan consensus, Yeah, we need a secure border. Sure, fine, 987 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: And that's gone now. California used a secure border as 988 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: a bad thing because the people that are illegal in 989 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: California have a tremendous amount of sway in the country, 990 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 1: in the state rather well in the country as well. Um, 991 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: and there are many people that have either familial bonds, 992 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 1: ties of kinship, friends, colleagues, coworkers whatever in the legal 993 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: alien population who also view any enforcement of border security 994 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: as some kind of slap in the face, some kind 995 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 1: of attack on them. So sure enough, the Governor Brown 996 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: here is backing down. I think Trump called him governor Moonbeam. Uh, 997 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: he's backing off of that, No surprise. We're gonna talk 998 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: Syria coming up here in just a few minutes. And 999 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: also what Trump's really do it stay? Since election day, 1000 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: we've created three million new jobs, three millions. And and people, 1001 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: if I would have said that prior to the election 1002 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: that will create in a short period of time three 1003 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: million jobs, that would have said, that's ridiculous, that's an exaggeration, 1004 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: how could it be possible. We would have taken a 1005 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: lot of heat. But we've created three million new jobs, 1006 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,959 Speaker 1: and now the numbers even higher than that. So since 1007 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: election day, three million new jobs. Unemployment rates for Hispanics? 1008 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: Are there any Hispanics in the room now? I think 1009 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: for Hispanics, the we have the lowest level ever recorded. 1010 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: The story of many, many millions of people who come 1011 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: to this country to look for an opportunity, and our 1012 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: president has now restored the capacity of people like me 1013 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 1: that started a business from the trunk of our cars 1014 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 1: to become a very prominent company where we impact over 1015 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: fifty families, and thinking Mr President very happy that right 1016 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,479 Speaker 1: before he was elected, we had a town hall meeting 1017 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: and I took the liberty of elected him. I said, 1018 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: we're going to elect you in November, and we're gonna 1019 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: see you soon. My god, I look prophetic today. So 1020 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 1: of the country, according to Rasmus in approves the job 1021 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: that President Trump is doing, which is really high for 1022 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: a president at this stage of the game, higher than 1023 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: Obama's approval at this point in time. And yet you 1024 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: can see that there are completely there are narratives that 1025 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: are so different right now of what's going on in 1026 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: the country that you have to think that we're talking 1027 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 1: about a different country. Right You have, on the one hand, 1028 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 1: a narrative of an administration that is letting the letting 1029 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: the American people's business be business and let them do 1030 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: what they do, trying to take the constraints the shackles 1031 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: of government regulation off of our backs and uh off 1032 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: of the labor that we all do and in our 1033 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 1: our jobs or do today lives. And and then the 1034 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: other hand you have you have people that are supposed 1035 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: to be informing us about this and talking about what's 1036 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: really going on that that matters to all of you. 1037 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: And what you are left with is people who say 1038 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: things like, oh that this weekend of The New Yorker 1039 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: published an essay, and they would just say, oh, it's 1040 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: just it's just they can essee me, and it's now like, 1041 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, we rooted. They went out, there's opinion me in. 1042 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: But what they published is obviously a reflection of what 1043 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: they think we should all read and know, not that 1044 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,439 Speaker 1: that many people read The New Yorker in the first place, 1045 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: but it was a piece on how this is the 1046 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: basically the we're in the end times of the Trump presidency. 1047 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: And it was a completely serious piece in the sense 1048 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: that this was not not trying to be a a 1049 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: send up of things. This was not meant to be 1050 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: a parody. This is totally serious that we are in 1051 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: the phase of the end. It's like the Berlin Wallace 1052 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: coming down that the Trump presidency is about to end, 1053 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: and pointing to the Michael Cohen record seizure as the 1054 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: evidence that that's really all the evans you need that 1055 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: this is all coming down and all falling apart. You know, 1056 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: you wonder at what point they stopped making these predictions, 1057 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: At what point being wrong becomes problematic enough for them 1058 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: that they will no longer keep at it. Because last year, 1059 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: I remember The New Yorker and I actually pulled some 1060 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: of this over the weekend to read The New Yorker 1061 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: was writing about It was one of those publications that 1062 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: found it fashionable to write about how fascism was coming 1063 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: to America the courtesy of Trump, right, that Trump was 1064 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: going to be a fascist, And it's just isn't an 1065 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: amazing when you think with this Trump is gonna be 1066 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: a fascist? They say, Meanwhile, the guy is being stymied 1067 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: and block left and right by random federal judges. And 1068 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: his response is never you know, sees that federal judge 1069 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 1: and take him into custody. You know, he's like, all right, 1070 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: I think that guy is wrong, but you know, we'll 1071 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,439 Speaker 1: see you in court, and we're not gonna just run 1072 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: rough shot over all different parts the judiciary. We will 1073 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: go through the process. They talk about a president who 1074 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 1: is undermining all of our institutions. Meanwhile, he plays within 1075 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: the guidelines as president of the institutions more so than 1076 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: his predecessor. Did you know Obama was the one who 1077 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: was like an off a pen on the phone, and 1078 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: he was just gonna do stuff whether or not it 1079 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 1: was within his constitutionally delegated authority to do so. Trump 1080 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: is like, well, okay, I wanted to do that, but 1081 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: I guess I can't right now, and we'll see and 1082 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: we'll move on to other stuff. Trump is the one 1083 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: who's made serious efforts to negotiate with the other side 1084 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: on issues like immigration. His immigration offer of amnesty for 1085 00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 1: DACA DOCCA covered individuals is more than anyone would have 1086 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: imagined a Republican in his position would have started out with. 1087 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: And Democrats were like, no, yeah, they don't want it, 1088 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: No part of it not enough for them. And you 1089 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: see the the focus still on on Cohen and the 1090 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: lawyer and the Russia probe. And I know we've all 1091 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean, part of me likes the comy story because 1092 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: it's so it's such a good way to illustrate grandiose bureaucrats. 1093 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I think that all of us getting a solid dose 1094 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: of sancta comey is a pretty is pretty worthwhile in 1095 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: that sense. But I also don't want to give this 1096 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 1: guy much more attention and much more of our of 1097 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: our viewership and and spending our our very precious hours 1098 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 1: listening to him drown on about leadership and ethics, because 1099 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,960 Speaker 1: I think that ultimately he is well, not just a 1100 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 1: waste of our time. I think he's pretty destructive. I 1101 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: think he's doing a lot of things that are very 1102 01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: problematic for the country and certainly problematic for the federal bureaucracy, 1103 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: and the notion of civil servants as public servants instead 1104 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: of well self servicing and self promoted. But Trump is 1105 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: out there and he's still making the case. And I 1106 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: think that as long as as long as the economy 1107 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: holds together and we're able to forestall a debt crisis, 1108 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: it's coming, but hopefully it won't hit at a point 1109 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: that is too damaging for the Trump presidents. As long 1110 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: as all that's happening, he's in pretty good shape and 1111 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: we'll be in pretty good shape for the mid terms. 1112 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Here's what he said, by the way, about what's going 1113 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: on with companies coming into the country nineteen. We're working 1114 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: on new trade deals that are gonna be great deals. 1115 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:52,479 Speaker 1: Where as you know, very tough on Cuba's not fair, 1116 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: not fair what happened. Companies are moving back into our country. Now, 1117 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: we have billions of dollars and even trillions of dollars 1118 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: going to become ming back in already started Apple three 1119 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: fifty billion dollar investment. So many of the companies are 1120 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: bringing back their money. They're putting it to work. Chrysler 1121 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 1: is opening up a big, beautiful plant in Michigan, and 1122 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: so many other car companies, and it's a whole different story. 1123 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: They all want to be part of it. What would 1124 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: the narrative from the mainstream media be like if none 1125 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: of this was happening. I think it's a fun thought experiment. 1126 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: What would they be saying if you didn't have record 1127 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: low unemployment, record low Hispanic and African American unemployment, if 1128 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have companies bringing back billions of dollars to 1129 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: repatriating it into the States, also promising to have more 1130 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: jobs here. Think about what it would sound like that. 1131 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's at This is quite a feat, and 1132 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: it's really an extenuate or a an extension of what 1133 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: he did during the primary. He's at with the entire 1134 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: media apparat not just opposed to him, but actively rooting 1135 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: for him to be criminally charged, indicted, and thrown out 1136 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 1: of office. All the above, and that you have entire 1137 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 1: media entities that have devoted themselves to that process. That's 1138 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: what they want to happen here. Fortunately, the country is 1139 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: actually doing well and people can see that, and so 1140 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: there's a counterbalance, the counterbalancing force of reality against the 1141 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: destructive media narrative about Trump. Is is is remarkable, It 1142 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: really is. You know, if if we were at a 1143 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 1: time of stagnation and you know, unemployment was going up 1144 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: and the kind of could you imagine, what would they 1145 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 1: even be saying? I don't know what. They just focus 1146 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: on that instead of what they're doing with the Trump 1147 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Russia collusion fairy tale they've been telling for so long. 1148 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just I feel like, you know, 1149 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: you get it here because you won't hear it a 1150 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: whole lot of other places. I like to tell you 1151 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that you know what Trump is doing. It is working 1152 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: in ways that matter to you and me every day. 1153 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: And they can talk about Michael Cohen until they're blue 1154 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: in the face. All Right, we got to I want 1155 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: to update you on Syria the aftermath of those strikes, 1156 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: so we'll hit that coming up. Stay with me. You 1157 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: are now entering the freedom technical Operations Center. All sensitive 1158 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: programs musty keeps strictly need to know. Team Buck is 1159 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: cleared and ready for the Buck brief. The sole reason 1160 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 1: we are there is to take out Isis. But as 1161 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: we start to see in the world, community watches as 1162 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Syria kills innocent men, women and children, backed by Bashar 1163 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: al Assad, backed by Russia, backed by Iron the United 1164 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: States and its allies had to act. And so that's 1165 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: exactly what we did. We believe we degraded their ability 1166 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: to use chemical weapons. So there you had a State 1167 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: Department spokeswoman Heather, Now we're on the strikes. Some follow 1168 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: up to the strikes in Syria. By the way, if 1169 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,360 Speaker 1: you didn't get a chance to read it, please do 1170 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: check out on the on the Hill dot com. I 1171 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: wrote on this, Uh, my title was something along lines 1172 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: of Trump's serious strike hits the mark, But you know, 1173 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: instability looms. Um, there there's a or escalation looms rather, UM, 1174 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: I have concerns about that. But here here's more of 1175 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. After that whole thing happened, I spent 1176 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 1: time obviously wrote about it. Over the weekend. I spent 1177 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: more time thinking as well about why do we fire 1178 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: these missiles off and blow up of a bunch of 1179 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: chemical weapons factories in Syria. I think that the the 1180 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 1: eventual answer we're gonna come to on this is that 1181 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: it won't really mean very much. It doesn't mean all 1182 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: that much. And I'm not sure that you can say 1183 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: anything has been accomplished other than messaging here. And how 1184 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: important you think that is is a very debatable proposition, 1185 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: you know. On the one hand, yeah, I get it. 1186 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: We we don't want to be living in a world 1187 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 1: where dictators think that they can use chemical weapons with 1188 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 1: impunity on their own people. I understand that. But I 1189 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 1: also see this and think to myself, you're talking about 1190 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 1: dozens of people killed in a very inhuman and h 1191 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: or inhumane and brutal fashion. But you've got a half 1192 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: a million people have done in the Syrian Civil War, 1193 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: and this is not stopping that war. In fact, that 1194 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: might you could argue it could uh, it could prolong it. 1195 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I could make it. Now. I don't think that standing 1196 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: up against chemical weapons will prolong it, but a a 1197 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: greater US involvement that may come from that strike could 1198 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,240 Speaker 1: make this thing drag on even longer. And then you 1199 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: also have this notion that we've really affected their chemical 1200 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 1: weapons program, which I gotta tell you I find I 1201 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: find tough. I know, I've I've seen some of the 1202 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: analysis on this. I think maybe Maddest last week said that, 1203 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, we've put or I don't don't quote me 1204 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 1: on that one. I'm not sure it was Maddest, but 1205 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: people were saying ti the administration, we've set their chemical 1206 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 1: weapons program back, you know years, you know, many been 1207 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 1: in months that this will be really meaningful as a 1208 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: a way of hitting them at basically taking their capability offline. 1209 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I find that tough. I find that tough to believe 1210 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 1: because I think I mentioned this to you a bit 1211 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: last week. Even saren gas, which is a nerve gas 1212 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: more more advanced and more terrifying and say chlorine gas 1213 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: or or even mustard gas. But saren gas has been 1214 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 1: around since it was initially came from pesticide research. They 1215 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: were trying to find something that was really effective at 1216 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 1: killing bugs. So you've got world War two era technology. 1217 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: That's what we're when we're discussing saren gas. It is 1218 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,479 Speaker 1: a World War two era technology. It is not hard 1219 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: to come up with this. And even if you were 1220 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 1: to assume as and I think the the big assumption 1221 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: assume that the chemical weapons facilities and capabilities that the 1222 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Assad regime has or just completely wiped out by those 1223 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: US strikes. I think that's I think it's uh, it's 1224 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: a tough sell for me that they won't be able 1225 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: to relatively quickly reconstitute that and use it as they 1226 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: see fit. Now, even mon they don't. They don't have to, 1227 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,799 Speaker 1: nor nor will they use chemical weapons on a regular basis. 1228 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Even even before we did this strike, it was relatively speaking, 1229 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 1: a rare tactic for them. Um. But by the way 1230 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 1: Trump Trump spoke about this and and the Syrian and 1231 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Russian response, John Place seventeen, did our generals do a 1232 01:08:49,120 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: great job. And you know with way over hundred missile 1233 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: shut in, they didn't shoot one down? The equipment didn't 1234 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: work too well, their equipment and uh, they didn't shoot 1235 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 1: one you know you heard, oh they shot forty down, 1236 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: then they shot fifteen down. They watched. Then I called, 1237 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: I said, did they know, sir? Every single one hit? 1238 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Its started? Think of that? How do you not one shot? Now, 1239 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: it's good to know that America has the capability to 1240 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: get past things like the surface to air missile systems 1241 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 1: that the Syrians have that they've gotten or borrowed or 1242 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,560 Speaker 1: been able to leverage Russian technology in order to have 1243 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 1: UM But that also doesn't deal with the fundamental problem 1244 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: of the Syrians civil war and the conventional weapons usage 1245 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,600 Speaker 1: that's killing four more people than anything that's happening to 1246 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 1: deal with the chemical weapons side. So I know the 1247 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: administration feels strongly about this, and it seems like Trump 1248 01:09:55,320 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: has very much set a line for all right actions 1249 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 1: over there that we're not going to get, which is 1250 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: that's critical. That was my big concern going into this, 1251 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: because I remember when I talked to you about this 1252 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 1: on Friday, I said, I'm I'm hoping. I kind of 1253 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: knew that there was gonna be a striker like I'm 1254 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: hoping that they don't really do this, but if they do, 1255 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 1: at least it should be limited. And I think that 1256 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the precedent that it sets as well when it comes 1257 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,600 Speaker 1: to constitutional well, you know this is how much can 1258 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,719 Speaker 1: I even be upset about the president when all presidents 1259 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: basically do this. You know, I see a national security 1260 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: problem somewhere, I'm just gonna fire some missiles at it. 1261 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,839 Speaker 1: That seems to be the approach of it's a bipartisan approach. 1262 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 1: There's something that I really don't like, and I'm president. 1263 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send some missiles and blow it up. You know, 1264 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: it's the war powers at constitutional Who knows. One of 1265 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,599 Speaker 1: the more acrimonious debates that doesn't seem to go anywhere 1266 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 1: is does the president need to confer with Congress or 1267 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: not before declaring war. I get people on both sides 1268 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 1: of that one that are completely convinced of the the 1269 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: rightness of their position and think that the other side 1270 01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 1: is just just nuts um. But you know, Syria, Well, 1271 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: we'll see what ends up happening in the in the 1272 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 1: months ahead. That will give us a much better sense 1273 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,600 Speaker 1: of whether they really are just limiting this to a 1274 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: a a one off against assad that that maintains the 1275 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 1: red line that Obama abandoned, but that does not drag 1276 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: us deeper into this thing. It was a big It 1277 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: was a big promise that Trump made during the campaign 1278 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 1: that we would not be fighting I think he was 1279 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: just reruning on the stupid wars on a pretty regular basis. 1280 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 1: We're not going to fight stupid wars. We're not going 1281 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: to do that. And sure enough, I think that This 1282 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: is going to be the real rubber meets the road 1283 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,759 Speaker 1: moment of whether or not Trump keeps that promise, because 1284 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't want it, You don't want it. It's it's 1285 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: a terrible idea for us to start putting ourselves in 1286 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: a place or we are responsible for what happens in Syria, 1287 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 1: were responsible every time somebody sets off an I e. 1288 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 1: D or or puts a puts a car bomb somewhere. 1289 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 1: That just we've got other things that we've got to 1290 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,640 Speaker 1: do with our resources and our people. We've got a 1291 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 1: country to build here and continue building. I think that's 1292 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: a that's a fair way to look at it, all right. 1293 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I want to get into some cultural stuff in the 1294 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: next hour. It'll be fun, including wokeness and how it 1295 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: destroys all your favorite movies and TV shows if you 1296 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: let it. We'll talk about that coming up. Enough with 1297 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: revisiting things, stop being surprised every time you watch an 1298 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: old movie or TV show and find some of the 1299 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 1: ideas in it are old. A recent article by Molly 1300 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Ringwold got a lot of attention because she revisited The 1301 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club and her other eighties movies and found them troubling. 1302 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: In the age of me too. She said she was 1303 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 1: taken aback by the scope of the ugliness. Oh please, 1304 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 1: they were teen comedies, not snuff films. So there that's 1305 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 1: are we can said of. There you welcome to our 1306 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: three of the Buck Sexton Show. There you had Bill Maher, uh, 1307 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 1: left wing comedian, Uh, saying what I've been saying. So 1308 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: this is good news in a sense. This this makes 1309 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: me happy that even people on the left are figuring 1310 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 1: out that this game that the left has really enjoyed 1311 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:15,600 Speaker 1: playing for a while, this game of Hey, let's go 1312 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 1: back and look once again at everything that was made 1313 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: as as art and entertainment from decades ago and apply 1314 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:30,880 Speaker 1: the current, the current standards of being woke, of being 1315 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: a social justice warrior to it. You're not gonna have 1316 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: anything left. You're not gonna have any music left, You're 1317 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: not gonna have any TV shows left. Uh, it's all. 1318 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: A lot of books are gonna be forbidden. Bill Maher 1319 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,880 Speaker 1: is seeing what I've seen for a long time now, 1320 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: which is that the progressive left has decided that it 1321 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: it will wield its power beyond its ability to even 1322 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: describe its outer limits when it comes to being censors 1323 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 1: of entertainment, pop culture and what is acceptable in discourse. 1324 01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,160 Speaker 1: As I've been mentioned that there are no outer limits 1325 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: to this. There's no place where I can say, Okay, 1326 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: well they'll they'll leave that alone, because with the exception 1327 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 1: as noted here of of hip hop music, for for 1328 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: whatever reason, they don't really get into the misogyny and 1329 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 1: the particularly although some of you are also gonna say, well, 1330 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, Buck, there's a lot of a lot of 1331 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: casual adultery and uh and drinking and pickup truck talk 1332 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of labor going on in 1333 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 1: the back of pickup truck, but maybe other stuff in 1334 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 1: country music. And I would say that may be true 1335 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 1: as well. I'm not as familiar with country music and 1336 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: as as I am with hip hop music. As an 1337 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: urban dweller, um, I know more about the hip hop 1338 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 1: side of things. Believe it or not. For some of you, 1339 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,400 Speaker 1: you're like, I do not believe it, Buck, but that 1340 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 1: against some of you also believe when I tweeted out 1341 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,639 Speaker 1: a photo of a stretch pink Hummer this past weekend 1342 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: that it was really my car. Uh So some people, 1343 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, some people believe some stuff. I went, I 1344 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 1: bet us I bet that stretch pink Hummer. I put 1345 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: a photo up on Twitter of it. It was really 1346 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 1: like double stretch too. It was it's like the biggest 1347 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: car I've I've seen um and it was pink, pink, 1348 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 1: and it was a Hummer. Uh, it's gotta cost a 1349 01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: couple hundred thousand dollars or something. I mean, I think 1350 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 1: it's gotta be really maybe a hundred fifty grand to 1351 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: and her grand. Very expensive. Nonetheless, I view, uh, this 1352 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 1: is a threat. I view this wokenus component as a 1353 01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: a threat to all of the things that we can 1354 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: enjoy together society. It's a big problem because it it 1355 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 1: pulls us apart one of the things that really brings 1356 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: us together. And I don't know if any of you saw. 1357 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: There was a over the weekend, a video making the 1358 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 1: rounds of a professional hockey player, and there was adorable 1359 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 1: little girls. There were their brothers and her dad, and 1360 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: he keeps trying to throw a puck over the plexiglass 1361 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: to her and and one of the I think her 1362 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: brother grabs one, and then another brother gets another one, 1363 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,880 Speaker 1: and the guy comes over this hockey player a third 1364 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,600 Speaker 1: time to make sure this girl and she gets the 1365 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: puck you know, she gets the little puck thrown to 1366 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: her over the plexiglass divider at the at the ice 1367 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 1: hockey game, and she has this look of just pure 1368 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 1: unfiltered joy in her face, and it's just really cute 1369 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: and funny, and it's it's it was a great, little, 1370 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 1: great little moment. And I think that sports, movies, TV, 1371 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 1: these are a lot of things that actually bring us 1372 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: into a place where we can agree and like them together. Right, Food, 1373 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: doing doing another thing I like to talk about here 1374 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,960 Speaker 1: on the show, a lot of food because I like food. Um, 1375 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 1: but those are things that that are common ground for us. 1376 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm sitting down, uh oh, you know, 1377 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who actually I like to chat with uber drivers, right, 1378 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm somebody who doesn't usually sit completely silently in the 1379 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 1: in the car. I feel like I'm driving with this 1380 01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: fellow or this madam, and I would like to, uh 1381 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,719 Speaker 1: like to engage in some kind of friendly banter, little 1382 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,560 Speaker 1: chit chat, a little back and forth. And you know, 1383 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 1: what's the place where you can prett easily go talk 1384 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,240 Speaker 1: about sports, talking about movies, talking about TV shows. You know, 1385 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: these days, for me, it's you know, what do you 1386 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 1: watch on Netflix, and most people, unless they just don't 1387 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,200 Speaker 1: want to talk to you all, you can find some 1388 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: way to say, yeah, we we can discuss this. And 1389 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 1: that's why I find it troubling beyond just the irritation 1390 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: of social justice warriors who find who won't let us 1391 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 1: find humor in anything, who refuse to accept that a 1392 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 1: world that is constrained by their vision of what is 1393 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: acceptable today is not only going to be stunted and 1394 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 1: and is going to be way less interesting and exciting 1395 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 1: than would otherwise be. It also negates much of the 1396 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: shared culture and history that we have as a society 1397 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 1: that brings us together. And now I know some of 1398 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, buck ah, you're taking this beyond TV 1399 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 1: shows too. Yeah, of course, this is where we get 1400 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: into UH statues that have to come down, and this 1401 01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,639 Speaker 1: is where we get into UH mascots and whether they're 1402 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 1: offensive or not, and all these other parts of what 1403 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: is shared in this country that is now subject to 1404 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: the political whims of the moment. And the response from 1405 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 1: the left on this is always the same, destroy, pull 1406 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: it down. And I've been bringing these to your attention 1407 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: in recent weeks. A pooh from The Simpsons, and it 1408 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,519 Speaker 1: is an amazing Hank Azaria who does that who's a 1409 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 1: he's a white guy like me, he does that voice. 1410 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 1: I have to sit here and say, I don't think 1411 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to do an impersonation of Hank Azaria doing 1412 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 1: an impersonation of an Indian convenience store owner. I don't 1413 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: think that I'd be able to do that without risking 1414 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,720 Speaker 1: some kind of backlash. Right, So that's where you can 1415 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,599 Speaker 1: see the rules here. Don't aren't even clear, don't even 1416 01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 1: make any sense. The Breakfast Club with Molly Molly Ringwald's essay, 1417 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:59,599 Speaker 1: That's what Bill Mahr was talking about there. Um, there 1418 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 1: are a bunch of oh a friends, which is whenever 1419 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Ms Molly wants to upset me, she tells me that 1420 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm not being very chandler. I'm being much more ross. 1421 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: Those who got the show know what I'm talking about. 1422 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Those who don't are like Buck, what is wrong with you? 1423 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 1: But anyway, the the you, you find any show and 1424 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: it'll either be homophobic, transphobic, um sexist, And I just say, 1425 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 1: you know, at some point we also need to understand 1426 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 1: that art is allowed to be offensive. Right, There's a 1427 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 1: difference between celebrating every aspect of an artistic work of 1428 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 1: one kind or another, and also allowing for the space 1429 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 1: for there to be art that will push buttons in 1430 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,280 Speaker 1: the first place. And and and this is also why 1431 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 1: whenever we start to have this conversation, you can see 1432 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,799 Speaker 1: that UH liberals respond just with it with a rage, 1433 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 1: because they're drunk on the power they have in this 1434 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,680 Speaker 1: current moment and they don't want to have to defend it. 1435 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,720 Speaker 1: They like being able to be the censors because if 1436 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 1: they control the culture, they will control politics. And they 1437 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: know it, and they know that's why it's so essential 1438 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,040 Speaker 1: to them, and that's why they're they're willing to just 1439 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: just keep on pushing through despite all the contradictions. Sugar 1440 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,559 Speaker 1: is bad for you doesn't mean it's not delicious. Doesn't 1441 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 1: mean that I don't like some very sugary things myself. 1442 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 1: Of course I do. It's a it's a weakness. I 1443 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 1: have to be aware of it. But I just note 1444 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 1: that as I looked through more and more information about 1445 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 1: UH opioids and how the pain epidemic in this country, 1446 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,840 Speaker 1: which was really an opioid epidemic in response to concerns 1447 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 1: over chronic pain, but but how that all happened and 1448 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 1: how the scientific community, in this case, the medical community 1449 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: was way off the mark in the nineties and in 1450 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and practicing good medicine at the 1451 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:56,240 Speaker 1: time was in many cases incredibly dangerous and really counterproductive 1452 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 1: for people. But I'm just reminded of of how, you know, 1453 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,519 Speaker 1: I'm here in California and you have the whole you know, 1454 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 1: nanny state in full effect. And I was talking people 1455 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,840 Speaker 1: today about you know, so, how how how's that whole 1456 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 1: high speed rail thing coming along? You're like, not so good, 1457 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 1: not so good, pretty expensive, and that's a pretty bad 1458 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 1: idea too. Um. But sure enough, you've got the paper bag, 1459 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,640 Speaker 1: only no plastic bag, so you've got that ban. I 1460 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 1: think you're going to see more and more efforts to 1461 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:28,600 Speaker 1: regulate what we eat as essentially treating sugar as a 1462 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 1: UM a public health crisis. I really do believe you're 1463 01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna see this. UM just noting that over the weekend, 1464 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,759 Speaker 1: I think, I yeah, I saw an interview on Reason 1465 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,800 Speaker 1: dot COM's website with Gary Talbos, who I've had on 1466 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 1: the show. I had him on almost maybe a year ago, 1467 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: give or take a month. I've always thought his work 1468 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,680 Speaker 1: was really interesting on you know Why do we have 1469 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: some of the health problems, particularly diabetes and obesity. Why 1470 01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 1: is there just been an enormous surge in the those 1471 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 1: issues and sugar is the most likely culprit. And I 1472 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: just have to take a moment laugh because you know, 1473 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 1: much of the policy here in California is based on 1474 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 1: or or should say, much of the conversation around policy. 1475 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,000 Speaker 1: The policy is not in fact based in scientific fact. 1476 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,719 Speaker 1: But they have this idea that science can solve everything. 1477 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 1: And I do think the technology makes the world better 1478 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 1: in so many ways. I think that technology is is 1479 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 1: advancing our lives and advancing human progress in in remarkable ways. 1480 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 1: But science is is a is a constant series of 1481 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,599 Speaker 1: questions and answers, and it's it's not there's this thing 1482 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,320 Speaker 1: we know and no more questions asked. And just as 1483 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 1: with opioids, how twenty years ago people are saying, yeah, 1484 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's really not a lot of evidence that 1485 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's addictive. Oh yes, it is. Right. If 1486 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 1: you give people oxyconon, they're going to get at some point, 1487 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna get addicted. People might have a different biochemistry, 1488 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,599 Speaker 1: it might be more addictive for some than than for others, 1489 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 1: but they were wrong, wrong, wrong on this, and this 1490 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,000 Speaker 1: is here in America and this is in my lifetime. 1491 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 1: And another place where they've just been wrong, wrong, wrong 1492 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 1: is sugar and the roll of sugar in our diets 1493 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:17,759 Speaker 1: and how it's just eat is creating wreckage all around 1494 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: um and there's a there's a profit motive and putting 1495 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: more sugar into stuff, it's become very very cheap. There 1496 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 1: was a time when sugar was actually and many of 1497 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 1: you know this, you know this history, sugar was actually 1498 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 1: very expensive and hard to get and that and also 1499 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 1: the labor that it required was backbreaking, really difficult stuff, 1500 01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 1: and that was why it relied predominantly in the Caribbean 1501 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 1: and in parts of the America's where sugar could be 1502 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,400 Speaker 1: grown and relied on slavery. So it was really nasty, 1503 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 1: tough work, and the sugar cane had to be processed right, 1504 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 1: it had to go through the process right away. But 1505 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 1: now it's become in really the twentieth century, became such 1506 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 1: a bigger part of our diets, and the advice that 1507 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: we were all getting, the advice that we were getting 1508 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 1: on the food pyramid and and for what we should 1509 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,639 Speaker 1: be doing in our day to day diance was just wrong, folks. 1510 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: It was bad. I remember being in science class in 1511 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 1: the fifth grade and we're all learning the food pyramid 1512 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,360 Speaker 1: and they're telling me to eat six to twelve servings 1513 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,680 Speaker 1: of rice and grain and white bread and you know, 1514 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 1: all day long. It's just terrible. This is terrible for us. 1515 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean this notion that I think back to people 1516 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,640 Speaker 1: thinking that peanut butter and jelly was a healthy snack. No, 1517 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: it is not a healthy snack, right, But if you 1518 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,759 Speaker 1: were growing, if you were a child of the eighties 1519 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,719 Speaker 1: like me, people thought a lot of Penny and jay 1520 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 1: and people say, oh, that's a pretty good that's a 1521 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 1: pretty good option. But like a snack, yeah, it's just 1522 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:48,759 Speaker 1: just give me a whole bunch of uh, processed carbs 1523 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 1: and then some some gelatinous sugar and throw a little 1524 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: peanut butter on there, which has an incredibly high calorie 1525 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 1: and fat content and doesn't even have the benefits of say, 1526 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:01,000 Speaker 1: almond butter or some of the other nut butters out there. Um. 1527 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 1: But the scientific community was wrong on that too, uh 1528 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 1: And whatever research was done on it, a lot of 1529 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,960 Speaker 1: it was actually put forward by the sugar companies, and 1530 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 1: the sugar lobby, which is even more amazing when you 1531 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 1: think about it, that the war on high fat food. Um, 1532 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 1: the notion that bacon and butter and uh, I know right, 1533 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 1: this is it enrages me too, that these things are 1534 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 1: bad for you. This became the conventional wisdom, and it 1535 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,679 Speaker 1: was and it still is kind of still seeing people 1536 01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 1: trying to push back and oh no, you know, it's 1537 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: it's really good for you. You you need you know, 1538 01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 1: you need these processed carbs in your diet, not really 1539 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,000 Speaker 1: very very little. Uh. You know. My problem here as 1540 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 1: I sit here is and I like, I like to 1541 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 1: just indulge too much in some of the things that 1542 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 1: are good for you in smaller amounts, right, I'm like, yeah, 1543 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't like a little bit of bacon. I like 1544 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of bacon. French fries I know are not 1545 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,640 Speaker 1: good for you, but I just eat them because I 1546 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,599 Speaker 1: can't help it. Because that's of all the food weaknesses 1547 01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: I have. I'm like, well, I mean, let's get aside 1548 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,559 Speaker 1: of fries, right, I should probably cut that. I'd probably 1549 01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,760 Speaker 1: live five years longer if I just stop eating French fries. 1550 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 1: But I can't help myself. Although out here, you know, 1551 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 1: they've got they've got in and Out Burger here in California, 1552 01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 1: which the burgers are amazing. I obviously get them with 1553 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 1: no bun I gotta let us wrap um. But the 1554 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 1: fries are kind of weak sauce. I'm just gonna say 1555 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 1: that the fries are on the week sauce side. Uh. 1556 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 1: But anyways, sugar is going to be something that there 1557 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be fights over sugar, and I think California 1558 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,719 Speaker 1: is gonna be at the forefront of that. They're gonna 1559 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 1: be efforts to tell you that sugar should be regular. Look, 1560 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,719 Speaker 1: we had it in New York with the big drinks 1561 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 1: right the BLOOMBERGI in. You know, you shouldn't be having 1562 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:40,920 Speaker 1: too much sugar in your drinks. Uh. And now is 1563 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,479 Speaker 1: a sixty ounce big gulp a good idea for anyone? 1564 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,000 Speaker 1: Probably not. Do I think that the government should tell 1565 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,800 Speaker 1: you that you can have it? No, if they want 1566 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: to put up signs that lets you know that you're 1567 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 1: ingesting a few uh thousand calories um by drinking this 1568 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 1: stuff over the worse of you know, a few days, 1569 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 1: or you know, over the course of a week. Yeah, 1570 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: I think it's good for them to give you the 1571 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 1: full knowledge of it. But I just also look at 1572 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: this as the response to science and government don't really 1573 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,560 Speaker 1: mix that well when it comes to policy. Shouldn't be 1574 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 1: oh well, we're gonna get it right this time. Forget 1575 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 1: about individual freedom, Let's just have more nanny state. And 1576 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 1: whether it was nanny state in dealing with pain, because 1577 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,280 Speaker 1: that was all very it was all very regulated, and 1578 01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 1: this was government policy to uh, you know what drugs 1579 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 1: would be allowed and what amounts and um, you know 1580 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 1: how quick and you tie in the h ms and 1581 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 1: how they were trying to get people in and out 1582 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 1: in and out of these opposite very very quickly. Uh. 1583 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 1: That was disastrous for the opioid epidemic in this country. 1584 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,120 Speaker 1: And also the big farmer. Don't even get me started. 1585 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,519 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that all day. But all but sugar 1586 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 1: is is a scourge that I wish I had known 1587 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,920 Speaker 1: about when I was younger. I mean just little things 1588 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,479 Speaker 1: that I think about. A big glass of orange juice. 1589 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,439 Speaker 1: I thought that was healthy. That is not healthy. You 1590 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 1: are basically having the equip blent of a coke in 1591 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,680 Speaker 1: terms of yeah, it's got some vitamin C. Great. The 1592 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 1: vitamin C absorption is not as good because it lacks 1593 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: the fiber of an actual orange that you would eat 1594 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,280 Speaker 1: and the amount of sure orange juice can actually be 1595 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 1: used as a sweetener in other foods. So when you 1596 01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 1: think about orange juice is something that I know, I 1597 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,759 Speaker 1: guess we're not going to have an o J sponsor 1598 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,280 Speaker 1: on the show anytime soon, But what can you do? Uh? 1599 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 1: But when you think about orange juice is something like 1600 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,920 Speaker 1: honey that you would put in something else to sweeten it. Now, 1601 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 1: imagine drinking a glass of honey first thing in the morning, 1602 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,599 Speaker 1: and and you'd be like, wow, that's a bad idea, right, 1603 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 1: But this our whole conception of this and scientists and 1604 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 1: the food pyramid and what you should eat and what's healthy, 1605 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,320 Speaker 1: they were wrong about all this, and it was government policy, 1606 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,719 Speaker 1: and the government policy was being pushed along by private 1607 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,000 Speaker 1: sector interest that could care less about what was making 1608 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,600 Speaker 1: you healthy. Talbots, I think, is a fashionating guy on 1609 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,599 Speaker 1: this um. He's done the most interesting He's a journalist, 1610 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 1: he's not even scientist, but he's on the most interesting 1611 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,560 Speaker 1: research on why is it that we can't seem to 1612 01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: figure out what really causes people to to gain way 1613 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 1: to have all these these these health related issues from 1614 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,560 Speaker 1: weight gain and when you look at the cost to 1615 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: our society in all kinds of ways, but particularly just 1616 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 1: the medical cost of of having people that don't have 1617 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 1: the proper instruction about the roll of sugar in the diet. 1618 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,560 Speaker 1: It's vast, It's it's enormous. And I but I know 1619 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: this is happening. I just had this and I was 1620 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 1: walking around today in the in the galleria here, and uh, 1621 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,840 Speaker 1: seeing all these different places that are just slinging sugar 1622 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,280 Speaker 1: drinks at you as fast as they can. H this 1623 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be a fight with the nanny state that 1624 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 1: looms ahead. I'm I have a I have a feeling, 1625 01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,240 Speaker 1: and I tend to be read about these things. All right, 1626 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about political scientists in 1627 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,439 Speaker 1: a moment here. Uh. One of my basic feces you've 1628 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,679 Speaker 1: heard me on the show UM say before, I think, 1629 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,479 Speaker 1: is that we shouldn't call it political science. And I've 1630 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 1: got a great data point as to why that is. 1631 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 1: You could also call a lot of these people who 1632 01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 1: professional political scientists clowns after hearing what I have to say. 1633 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,120 Speaker 1: But it has to do with the worst president of 1634 01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 1: all time? Who is it? According to our highly educated 1635 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 1: political science class. We'll tell you when we get back. 1636 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the political scientists are scientists. And I 1637 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 1: say this as someone who technically has an academic background 1638 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,240 Speaker 1: and wrote an honors thesis and political science at Amer's College. 1639 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 1: My thesis, by the way, was on a college speech 1640 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 1: a college campus speech codes. You can imagine how popular 1641 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: that was among the various political science professors who love 1642 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: those speech codes because they want to protect people from 1643 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 1: scary thoughts. But they're there. I couldn't help but be 1644 01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 1: struck by this, because, as I've said, I don't believe 1645 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 1: that political scientists are scientists. I think that there it's 1646 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 1: a discipline, but it's really like a multidisciplinary analysis of 1647 01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 1: history and contemporary you know, political forces. And anyway, I 1648 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 1: think at Harvard they actually call it politics instead of 1649 01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,639 Speaker 1: political science. I think the political science as a as 1650 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,760 Speaker 1: a a discipline. That's the word I was looking for. 1651 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,519 Speaker 1: I was gonna say doctrine, but that would have been wrong. 1652 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 1: As a discipline is it's just improperly named. Anyway, you 1653 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,800 Speaker 1: get this piece on Yahoo News where they still still 1654 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,639 Speaker 1: a lot of people use Yahoo. It's kind of amazing 1655 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 1: to me. Uh, Yahoo is still a thing. But Donald 1656 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 1: Trump is ranked the worst president in US history in 1657 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 1: this According to a Presidents and Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey, 1658 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 1: Trump is lower than President Nixon on this one. Um, 1659 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:47,520 Speaker 1: so that's pretty amazing. Even among conservatives. Abraham Lincoln unsurprisingly 1660 01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:50,160 Speaker 1: takes the top prize. This says, So they do this 1661 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,640 Speaker 1: study every four years, and it's from social science researchers 1662 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,560 Speaker 1: from the American Political Science Association Section on Presidents and 1663 01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,479 Speaker 1: Executive Politics. WHOA, there's a crazy seminar to go to 1664 01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: at some point. Hey man, did you go to the 1665 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,080 Speaker 1: American Political Science Association Section on Presidents and Executive Politics? 1666 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Last year? It was wild? Man? Did you see what 1667 01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 1: they had there with the ice luge? It was crazy? No, 1668 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,160 Speaker 1: not really. I don't think that that's the way it goes. 1669 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 1: But but this is funny to me for a whole 1670 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,560 Speaker 1: bunch of reasons, because it's actually a great example of 1671 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:25,519 Speaker 1: keep this in mind. These are people who, at least 1672 01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,880 Speaker 1: theoretically from what we know, spend their entire professional lives, 1673 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 1: spend countless hours of their day trying to find ways 1674 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:40,040 Speaker 1: to better understand politics in general and American politics more specifically. 1675 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:45,440 Speaker 1: And what we find out is that they are incapable 1676 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,240 Speaker 1: of putting together some pretty basic and rational thoughts. Here, 1677 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,960 Speaker 1: what we find out is that they would put Trump 1678 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:55,880 Speaker 1: lower on the list. Lower on the list, then say, oh, 1679 01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:01,040 Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson, who was a clan apologist who set resegregated 1680 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 1: the federal government, who wished the South had defeated the 1681 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,439 Speaker 1: North in the Civil War. I mean Woodrow Wilson was 1682 01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,320 Speaker 1: a bad guy, by the way, all kinds of eugenicist 1683 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,720 Speaker 1: inclinations as well. And you notice that they don't want 1684 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 1: to or at least they haven't yet named renamed Woody Woo, 1685 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,759 Speaker 1: which is the School of International Relations at Princeton University. 1686 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,240 Speaker 1: They let that go. They put Trump way ahead of 1687 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:30,320 Speaker 1: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who, as we know, gainst a complete 1688 01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 1: pass to this day for one of the darkest episode 1689 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: certainly in twentieth century American politics, where he put Americans 1690 01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,360 Speaker 1: in internment camps, Japanese Americans put in internment camps. So 1691 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 1: so Woodrow Wilson was a racist, segregationist, uh eugenicist, and 1692 01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,519 Speaker 1: who actually took took actions based on those ideas. Not 1693 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 1: these these are not just like personal attacks. And f 1694 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:06,720 Speaker 1: DR was a constitution shredding, uh, semi authoritarian, and they 1695 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,880 Speaker 1: say Trump is worse. I mean, Trump is even worse 1696 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,560 Speaker 1: then some of those nineteenth century presidents we've had in 1697 01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,400 Speaker 1: the run up to the Civil War that everyone's like, well, 1698 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,800 Speaker 1: that guy was really bad. Uh. But this just goes 1699 01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,800 Speaker 1: to show you how completely out of touch political scientists are, 1700 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,920 Speaker 1: not not with the public, which is that goes without 1701 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,360 Speaker 1: saying um, but with the reality around them. And also 1702 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,120 Speaker 1: it goes more towards my theory of I just don't 1703 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,840 Speaker 1: believe the political scientists are really scientists. Yeah. I know, 1704 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,680 Speaker 1: they can do regression analysis and there. They can throw 1705 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,280 Speaker 1: some numbers on these things and they can make it 1706 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:45,439 Speaker 1: look sciencey, but the discipline is really politics, and politics 1707 01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,680 Speaker 1: is the study of history and human power dynamics and 1708 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,640 Speaker 1: relations between groups and individuals right and the individual in 1709 01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,680 Speaker 1: the state. Okay, and philosophy. And there's a whole bunch 1710 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,439 Speaker 1: of stuff thrown into it, but it is not a science. 1711 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: Is poorly named. I'm like a one man band here, 1712 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,679 Speaker 1: I know, but we should all just call it politics 1713 01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,080 Speaker 1: and stop calling a political science because political scientists are 1714 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of bozos. Based on this study, Trump is 1715 01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,559 Speaker 1: the worst president ever Wow, guys. Yeah, all the low 1716 01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 1: unemployment and economic growth and prosperity is just terrible. Are 1717 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,759 Speaker 1: we got roll call coming up? Stay with me, well, team, 1718 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm out here in Los Angeles and that's always a 1719 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: fun time that the weather is nicer than New York. 1720 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: I saw video of a a subway stop that I 1721 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,519 Speaker 1: take on a regular basis that it looked like the 1722 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 1: end times. We had some kind of a flash flood 1723 01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 1: from rain in New York City, or at least in 1724 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 1: the subways. So being in l A that part of 1725 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,880 Speaker 1: it's really nice out here at our I heart HQ 1726 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles or in the Los Angeles area. I'm 1727 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:55,080 Speaker 1: actually in what is the Valley, which is kind of 1728 01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,040 Speaker 1: like l A but kind of not. But I'm enjoying 1729 01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 1: it out here. It was freezing cold for l A 1730 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 1: last night. Thought I will say, for some reason, wherever 1731 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,000 Speaker 1: I go it's a lot colder than it's supposed to 1732 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 1: be when I'm there, I am not good not good 1733 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,360 Speaker 1: luck when it comes to weather. The other thing about 1734 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 1: l A is that even though I take I take 1735 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 1: Uber pretty much everywhere here, I'm not somebody who gets 1736 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,920 Speaker 1: any joy out of driving. I like to just sort 1737 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,880 Speaker 1: of sit back and relax. I don't really particularly get 1738 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 1: excited about being the guy fighting the traffic. Even still 1739 01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,000 Speaker 1: so much time in cars out here. I need to 1740 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 1: be able to walk to places. So that's that's my 1741 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:31,720 Speaker 1: only thing on l A for right now. But I'm 1742 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 1: having a good time out here meeting with all kinds 1743 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,240 Speaker 1: of important folks from radio land and get a chance 1744 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,679 Speaker 1: to chat with them. So with that, let me stop 1745 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: just I'll hopefully have some better stories about my l 1746 01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,640 Speaker 1: A tre I just got in yesterday and so I 1747 01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 1: haven't been able to hang out with T Swift or 1748 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,160 Speaker 1: or I don't know if Cardi B is l A based, 1749 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 1: but I like to throw in Cardi B references now 1750 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 1: because I just found out who this artist is and 1751 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,840 Speaker 1: apparently that's what the cool kids listen to right now. 1752 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,679 Speaker 1: So you know, maybe I'll go by the set of Gosh. 1753 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 1: I don't even know. They don't They don't do Leno 1754 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 1: or or Letterman out here, so what are the shows 1755 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 1: that they do out I don't know. I need to 1756 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 1: learn more about l A. With that rambling sense of 1757 01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:18,600 Speaker 1: whatever I've got in my head, it is time for 1758 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:24,559 Speaker 1: your thoughts, my friends, some roll call the show ain't 1759 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:35,360 Speaker 1: over yet, folks keeping it real just say keeping it real. 1760 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why. That just sort of and for 1761 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,719 Speaker 1: those who don't know, that's from the movie Clueless, because 1762 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 1: because I'm keeping it real. And then that became a 1763 01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,800 Speaker 1: phrase that everybody continue to use. I think it's still 1764 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,240 Speaker 1: or people will say keeping it one hundred now as 1765 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,439 Speaker 1: well for shorthand. But I just I like our announcer 1766 01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:56,200 Speaker 1: keeping it real. All right, let's get into all of 1767 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,519 Speaker 1: the latest good stuff here from roll Call. If you 1768 01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,800 Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, Facebook dot com, 1769 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,720 Speaker 1: slash buck sextent, that is all you need and you 1770 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 1: can send us a message there. We read them all, 1771 01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 1: we enjoy them all, and uh we try to get 1772 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 1: as many on the air as we can. So we 1773 01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 1: have Amy first up here. She writes, Oh my gosh, Buck, 1774 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:22,880 Speaker 1: read some Comy excerpts from the book in a Valley 1775 01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,720 Speaker 1: girl accent. It would be comedic gold or read some 1776 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,679 Speaker 1: in a vale girl accent. Since Comy is being such 1777 01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:32,479 Speaker 1: a little girl. Well, Amy, I tend to agree with you. Um, 1778 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,640 Speaker 1: I have a I have a very negative view of 1779 01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,920 Speaker 1: of Comy based on his public persona. I feel like 1780 01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,559 Speaker 1: I really understand who comy is. As I've been discussing 1781 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,439 Speaker 1: throughout the show. I feel like it's quite clear this 1782 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 1: is someone who has gone through life with an irrationally 1783 01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,880 Speaker 1: high self regard. And uh, that's that explains a lot. 1784 01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,760 Speaker 1: I think that that takes us pretty close to where 1785 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,519 Speaker 1: we where we are with all this, UM, thank you 1786 01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 1: very much for the note. We have Phil up Next, 1787 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:05,639 Speaker 1: he writes, Buck great show Friday, Creed on your playlist 1788 01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,040 Speaker 1: negates any chick artists you may find there. You get 1789 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 1: to keep your man card. Thank you very much, Phil. 1790 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate that I'm gonna hold onto my man card 1791 01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:18,080 Speaker 1: and I needed h. He also writes, Creed morphed into 1792 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:22,080 Speaker 1: an even more powerhouse band, alter Bridge, which I highly 1793 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,439 Speaker 1: recommend to any Freedom Hunt listener. Will Philip, I can 1794 01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:27,720 Speaker 1: tell you, in fact, you can fact check me on 1795 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,400 Speaker 1: this one because of my public Spotify playlists that I 1796 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 1: have alter Bridge on there, so I am familiar with 1797 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:39,240 Speaker 1: and enjoy alter Bridge. I I like any of that 1798 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,400 Speaker 1: kind of that kind of power rock stuff I'm into, 1799 01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,479 Speaker 1: especially if if it's more positive sounding. My only problem 1800 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:49,320 Speaker 1: with some of the heavier rock is the moment people 1801 01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,639 Speaker 1: start doing the growl are you ready? You know all 1802 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,679 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that's I don't like that. It's scary, 1803 01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 1: it sounds a little mean. I like the rock that's 1804 01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,600 Speaker 1: melodic and and inspiring. And now I sound like a 1805 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,880 Speaker 1: huge dork. But you know what, I own it. I 1806 01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,519 Speaker 1: own it. I let it, I let it, let it roll. 1807 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 1: Uh See, this is what I tell us Molly when 1808 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,599 Speaker 1: she says that my shoe choice, for example, is old 1809 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,519 Speaker 1: man like. I see, yes, but my feet are comfortable 1810 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,800 Speaker 1: and I don't care if people don't like the shoes 1811 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,040 Speaker 1: that I wear. Except when I'm on TV. I have 1812 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,439 Speaker 1: conceded on that one. Now you will notice I I 1813 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,160 Speaker 1: do not wear if I ever wear boat shoes on TV. Now, 1814 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 1: it's because I'm in a very very comfortable environment and 1815 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,439 Speaker 1: I feel like I might as well, you know, just chill. 1816 01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,599 Speaker 1: But generally speaking, I wear shinable shoes. That's the new 1817 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,519 Speaker 1: that's the new regime. I mean, we're in boat shoes 1818 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,720 Speaker 1: right now, don't worry. But in general, I on TV, 1819 01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:45,599 Speaker 1: we're shopable shoes, all right. Next up, we get Erica. 1820 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,160 Speaker 1: She writes, I was listening to the last Thursday show 1821 01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,719 Speaker 1: and your discussion of opioid addiction. I found the idea 1822 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,639 Speaker 1: you expressed last month about how people aren't being killed 1823 01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,920 Speaker 1: by prescription drugs rather by o ding on illegal drugs 1824 01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,760 Speaker 1: flowing in through our week border. I saw this chart 1825 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,920 Speaker 1: with an article and how the reconfiguration of OxyContin caused 1826 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,640 Speaker 1: the jump to illegal drug use. Well, Erica, first of all, 1827 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,360 Speaker 1: thank you for your message. And let me be clear 1828 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 1: about what I was at least trying to say, if 1829 01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:14,320 Speaker 1: not what I did say about all this, uh, the 1830 01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,400 Speaker 1: the the truth about OxyContin and about opiod over to 1831 01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,080 Speaker 1: overdoses complicated and and I would commend to you all. 1832 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,680 Speaker 1: And I actually tweeted at him over the weekend just 1833 01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 1: to let him know how great I thought. His book 1834 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,680 Speaker 1: was Sam Canonez uh maybe Queen Nonez. I'm not sure 1835 01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,320 Speaker 1: how you pronounce his name, but his book Dreamland is 1836 01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,719 Speaker 1: so good. I'm almost done with it. I'm reading three books. 1837 01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:39,080 Speaker 1: Uh well, sorry, I see that sounds like a humble brag, 1838 01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,799 Speaker 1: but it's really just because I my attention gets scattered 1839 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,200 Speaker 1: and I forced myself now to be reading a novel. 1840 01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:49,639 Speaker 1: So I'm reading three books simultaneously, not at the same time, 1841 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: but contempt maybe contemporaneously is a better way to describe it. 1842 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 1: And one that makes it sound less like I should 1843 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,680 Speaker 1: punch myself in the face. But yeah, one of them 1844 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 1: is Dreamland. It's really really good. But to to your 1845 01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,599 Speaker 1: point about the deaths, people still die for prescription drug overdose, 1846 01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,120 Speaker 1: no question. In fact, I I think I've mentioned you 1847 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 1: before on this show. I had two very close childhood 1848 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 1: friends as obviously as we got a bit older, who 1849 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,600 Speaker 1: both overdosed on prescription drugs. I don't know the specifics. 1850 01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,560 Speaker 1: I never wanted to um uh in any way be 1851 01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 1: insensitive to the family, so I didn't ask. I just 1852 01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,320 Speaker 1: knew it was prescription drugs. It might have been entirely accidental, 1853 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,880 Speaker 1: or it might have been from abuse, but I anyway, 1854 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,840 Speaker 1: the point being, uh, people still certainly die in pretty 1855 01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:40,800 Speaker 1: large numbers, unfortunately from prescription drugs. But the spike, the 1856 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,519 Speaker 1: big spike in depths we've seen over the last five 1857 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:48,280 Speaker 1: or six years comes from fentanyl, which is almost entirely 1858 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:53,599 Speaker 1: illegally obtained and in many cases even illegally created fentanyl 1859 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,120 Speaker 1: and heroin. So you've had a pretty consistent number of 1860 01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:01,360 Speaker 1: opioid or prescription rug overdoses, and the last five or 1861 01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:04,200 Speaker 1: six years it's the illegal stuff, and there's a complicated 1862 01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:10,439 Speaker 1: relationship between how opioids in the prescription drug market because 1863 01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,439 Speaker 1: of H and this is all A lot of this 1864 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 1: is covered in Dreamland. There are other articles are other 1865 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:16,519 Speaker 1: places you can read on it that are really good. 1866 01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 1: But pain management through the nineties got this whole makeover 1867 01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: where people started prescribing, including first line medical professionals. Primary 1868 01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,559 Speaker 1: care doctors were told that not only should they prescribe 1869 01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,760 Speaker 1: opioids because they were very unlikely to be addictive, but 1870 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,479 Speaker 1: they were under an obligation to and to treat pain 1871 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,760 Speaker 1: as one of the you know, initial markers of health 1872 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,240 Speaker 1: that they look for when you first go into an office. 1873 01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,360 Speaker 1: And now, of course, unlike blood pressure, pain is not 1874 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,560 Speaker 1: objective what kind of pain you're in. So there was 1875 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:54,000 Speaker 1: this an enormous explosion of UH prescription drug usage from opioid, 1876 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:59,360 Speaker 1: opioid derived or opioid drugs. Oxycotton the most famous which 1877 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:03,240 Speaker 1: contains see CoDown and and they used to get people 1878 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,960 Speaker 1: really big doses I mean doctors which describe really big 1879 01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,680 Speaker 1: doses of of oxy oxycotton on a daily basis for people. Um. 1880 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,000 Speaker 1: But there are others as well, UM that I've been 1881 01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:17,720 Speaker 1: learning learning more about recently. I vicul in, percocet. Uh. 1882 01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:19,840 Speaker 1: There are a few others that am actually blanking on 1883 01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 1: right now that are that are pretty widely prescribed, but 1884 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,280 Speaker 1: the big spike has been from fentanel and which is 1885 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:32,400 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful, potent, very very dangerous, and heroin and the heroine. 1886 01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:37,240 Speaker 1: The heroin explosion of this country comes hand hand in 1887 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 1: glove with illegal alien population in uh in this country 1888 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 1: from Mexico and Central America, predominantly from Mexico. Now, it's interesting. 1889 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,360 Speaker 1: I've had this discussion with people recently and they say, 1890 01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 1: isn't it so unfair? And I think it's important for 1891 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,679 Speaker 1: all of us keeping mind as we discussed this, because 1892 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,000 Speaker 1: I'll speak to you very honestly about the problems of 1893 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,400 Speaker 1: illegal immigration, the problems of terrorism and there it reminds 1894 01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,000 Speaker 1: me that there's a cross over here. Right. Let's say 1895 01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 1: one percent of the illegal immigrant population this country is 1896 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,680 Speaker 1: involved in the drug trade. That's, by the way, I 1897 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,040 Speaker 1: can't even say that's a wild guess. I'm just making 1898 01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,240 Speaker 1: up that number because that's easy. Uh. It might be 1899 01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,720 Speaker 1: considerably less than that, it might be considerably more. But 1900 01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,479 Speaker 1: let's say one percent of the illegal immigrant population is 1901 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 1: involved in the drug trade in some capacity, transporting, selling, 1902 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:28,759 Speaker 1: whatever um. That would be like saying, within the Islamic 1903 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:32,519 Speaker 1: population of this country, what what percentage or actual radicals 1904 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,080 Speaker 1: And if you said less than one percent, I think 1905 01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,880 Speaker 1: that would be a fair a fair estimate. But the 1906 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,880 Speaker 1: problem is that you can you can still have a 1907 01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,760 Speaker 1: massive problem even if only one percent of the legal 1908 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:49,599 Speaker 1: alien population is importing heroin from Sinaloa in Mexico, from 1909 01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,160 Speaker 1: Nyaret and from other parts of the Mexican highlands that 1910 01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 1: can easily grow poppy and easy grow poppy flowers. So 1911 01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,439 Speaker 1: to say that it's unfair, that's true, it's unfair to 1912 01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:02,640 Speaker 1: the ninety percent of the population that isn't involved, But 1913 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you don't have a huge problem and 1914 01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,760 Speaker 1: it isn't contained within a certain group of people. UH. 1915 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,360 Speaker 1: And this is one of the problems. This is one 1916 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:13,759 Speaker 1: of the big challenges of public policy discussion that involves 1917 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,639 Speaker 1: national security issues but also sensitive issues that affect people 1918 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:19,479 Speaker 1: in their day to day lives and how they feel 1919 01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:23,560 Speaker 1: they're treated. So UH, opioids. I find this topic fascinating 1920 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,639 Speaker 1: on a whole bunch of of levels, and it's something 1921 01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,360 Speaker 1: we'll continue to talk about here in the HUT I 1922 01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,240 Speaker 1: am apologizing right now because I just I realized I've 1923 01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,320 Speaker 1: gone a little bit over and oh wait, wait, one 1924 01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,400 Speaker 1: more here from Lauren. She writes back, I just realized 1925 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,080 Speaker 1: you're in soul Cow. If you and Miss Molly ever 1926 01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,439 Speaker 1: wants surf lessons, you know who to ask. Well, Lauren, 1927 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:43,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I want to end on a 1928 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,800 Speaker 1: happy note, and Lauren gave us a happy note there. Sure, 1929 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:48,879 Speaker 1: if I can ever get the time and the inclination 1930 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,679 Speaker 1: to get up on a surfboard, if Miss Molly feels 1931 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:52,240 Speaker 1: like she's up for it, we'll come down and check 1932 01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,720 Speaker 1: it out. She's out here doing some work too, so 1933 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 1: we're actually simultaneously in Los Angeles area. Um with that, 1934 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:02,360 Speaker 1: my friends, I gotta close up the hut very much. 1935 01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,400 Speaker 1: Enjoying my time with you as always out here in 1936 01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I will be here every day and then 1937 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,280 Speaker 1: Thursday actually in San Diego, but i'll be here every 1938 01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:14,920 Speaker 1: day this week until then, So please send me your thoughts, 1939 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,120 Speaker 1: send me your recommendations for the best places to do 1940 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,599 Speaker 1: fun stuff in l A. And until next time, my friends, 1941 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:22,439 Speaker 1: Shields High