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Speaker 1: Hey, we're back on normal. The show with normal it

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Speaker 2: I am Mary Caston, I am Carol marc O. Wiz.

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Speaker 2: How is your weekend, Mary Catherine?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's pretty good, other than the fact that we

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of tornadoes coming through here later today.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get this podcast done before severe weather.

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Speaker 1: That's ok.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's something you should definitely get done today.

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Speaker 2: Then I tornadoes. You guys get tornadoes. I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mid Atlantic gets tornadoes occasionally, but this is

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Speaker 1: a little bit of an odd thing. And they're saying

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Speaker 2: So that's the very all right, we are finally having

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Speaker 2: nice weather. We went to the beach this weekend because

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Speaker 2: you know, summer's finally here after a long, hard winter.

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Speaker 1: Sure it was very hard, very very Laura ingles down

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Speaker 2: We buckled down and wore sweatshirts. You know, we too

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Speaker 2: have suffered.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. All right, I'm happy for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm happy you're happy, you know. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: let's do it. You know, Look, we like to talk

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Speaker 2: about news that matters here on normally, and I frequently

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Speaker 2: don't think that the podcast Wars is news that matters.

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Speaker 2: But of course it has now kind of taken a

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Speaker 2: turn into actual, possible, real news. Over the weekend, Tucker

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Speaker 2: Carlson said that he was being investigated by the CIA.

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Speaker 2: They were reading his texts with Iran and are quote

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Speaker 2: unquote framing him as a foreign agent. Now, everybody that

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Speaker 2: That totally makes sense now, And the thing is that

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Speaker 2: he has behaved so erratically and done so many weird

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Speaker 2: But now it's like, did he hear that from Iran,

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Speaker 2: and that's why he shared this false news, because Iran

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Speaker 2: there and use their dupe in the US to do that. Unclear,

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Speaker 2: but things like that have really, you know, made the

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Speaker 2: But the thing is because he lies so frequently, like

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Speaker 2: for pictures. The other more likely possibility is that Tucker

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Speaker 2: he is now wont to do. What do you think, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's the There's a couple theories.

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Speaker 2: That's the likely possibility there very story if.

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Speaker 1: You and I both talked about, well, like this would

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Speaker 2: I mean I love that theory. Look, I didn't think

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Speaker 1: There's also the fact with Trump that he's always sort

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Speaker 1: I'm not a like Trump playing five D chess theorist.

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Speaker 3: But maybe, but he does have an ability to know

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Speaker 2: I mean also the fact that Tucker is constantly calling

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Speaker 2: Everybody's a foreign agent to Tucker. If he ends up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever I read a Candice Owen's tweet, I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, why would he come out with this, right?

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Speaker 2: It either is to draw attention, like to back to

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Speaker 2: And again, I'm loath to talk about these people because

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Speaker 1: But this is.

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Speaker 2: Obviously if Tucker Carlson is an agent of BRAN, that

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Speaker 2: would be news, that would be news. Markaputo, who is

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Speaker 2: they're investigating Tucker Carlson. I don't know, he says. Also

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Speaker 2: Mark says DOJFBI is getting a lot of citizen requests

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Speaker 2: We'll stay on top of this and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But it's likely just podcaster nonsense where he would like

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Speaker 2: And it's not about Israel either. When he talks about

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Speaker 2: I was a big fan of Tucker Carlson's back when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a problem in many areas of life,

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it, But if you haven't read Leelle

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Speaker 1: Well and even so, it's a Thomas Anderson movie, who

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Speaker 2: I can't sit through them. They're terrible. I watch old movies.

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Speaker 2: I am old. That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, we can be old. Conan O'Brien hosted again.

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Speaker 1: They did tributes to Rob Bryner, Robert Redford, Diane Keaton,

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Speaker 1: Captain O'Hara. I think I heard that that Robert Duvall

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Speaker 1: was sort of given short shift in the memoriam, and

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Speaker 1: that's not cool. He's like one of the greatest actors

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Speaker 1: of the twentieth century. Okay, two clips I want to

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Speaker 1: the good and the bad. Here is the k pop

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Speaker 1: demon Hunter's creator telling us that she's the first Asian

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Speaker 1: person to ever win an oscar or something. Here she goes,

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Speaker 1: and for.

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Speaker 4: Those of you who look like me, I'm so sorry

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Speaker 4: that it took us so long.

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Speaker 1: To see us in a movie like this, but it

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Speaker 1: is here, and.

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Speaker 2: That means that the next generations don't have to go alonging.

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Speaker 2: This is for Korea and for Koreans everywhere. Poly math

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Speaker 2: political math on X did a chart where he wanted

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Speaker 2: to look at every protagonist in every Best Animated film

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Speaker 2: since the award was created in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 2: What he found was eleven of the protagonists were non human,

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Speaker 2: five were Asian, and five were white. So fe like

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Speaker 2: there are some protagonists who are also.

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Speaker 1: John put Hortz noted that just a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that was a Korean film, Parasite won everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't exactly rare. One of the sad

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Speaker 1: things about being a progressive is that once you have

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Speaker 1: the MIC and you have your shining moment before the world,

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Speaker 1: you have to declare that all progress before you never

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Speaker 1: existly because it's important to preserve the fiction that we've

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Speaker 1: never done anything for any other minority population ever. And

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Speaker 1: I just I think that, like, by next year, is

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Speaker 1: the K pop demon Hunters win going to be gone

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Speaker 1: from everybody's brain and we'll just pretend that we're starting

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Speaker 1: at zero again, because I don't think we are. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, we have Jesse Buckley, the best actress

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Speaker 1: for Hamnet, and here's her lovely acceptance speech.

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Speaker 4: You Fred, I love you, man, I love you. You're

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Speaker 4: the most incredible dad. You're my best friend. And I

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Speaker 4: want to have twenty thousand more babies with you.

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Speaker 1: I do, I do.

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Speaker 4: And Ala my little girl who is eight months, who

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Speaker 4: has absolutely no idea what's going on, and it's probably

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Speaker 4: dreaming of milk. But this is kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 2: And I love you and I love being.

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Speaker 4: Your mom, and I can't wait to discover life beside you,

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Speaker 4: Chloe and Maggie. You, to get to know this incandescent

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Speaker 4: woman and journey to understand the capacity of a mother's

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Speaker 4: love is the greatest collision of my life. It's Mother's

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Speaker 4: Day in the UK today, so I would like to

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Speaker 4: dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart.

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Speaker 1: It's really nice. I feel like we are having a

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Speaker 1: bit of a trend toward acceptance species by very famous

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Speaker 1: people that include appreciation for their children and their families.

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Speaker 1: Kuren Culkin is no notable because he kept telling his

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Speaker 1: wife if I win another one can have another baby,

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Speaker 1: having more babies because he keeps sweating awards and now

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Speaker 1: this lovely sentiment. By the way, I think anyone who's

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Speaker 1: afraid of motherhood can look to this woman who is

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Speaker 1: at the absolute pinnacle of her career and has an

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Speaker 1: eight month old baby that it does not have to

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Speaker 1: shackle you. It does not have to be a trap,

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Speaker 1: and it stands in beautiful contrast to who is it

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Speaker 1: Michelle Williams that gave that speech once saying that the

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Speaker 1: reason she was standing before you is because she had

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Speaker 1: an abortion right. Yeah, like, nah, I'm not here for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan, who I do like very much. One

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Speaker 1: best actor I believe for Sinners and best supporting actor

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Speaker 1: was Sean Penn, who has too many Why is he

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Speaker 1: still winning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think families are back in Disney had apparently

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Speaker 2: a very popular ad during the Word Show where It's

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Speaker 2: which showed a father and son bonding over the years

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Speaker 2: on a Disney cruise. It was a very good ad

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Speaker 2: Mary Catherine, Yeah, said another news. There was some politics

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Speaker 2: at the show, of course, somebody called for a ceasefire

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Speaker 2: and Gaza. I hope that lady gets her news updated soon.

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Speaker 2: But of course very little was said if I had

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Speaker 2: anything at all about the Iranians who are either trapped

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Speaker 2: in Iran as this plays out with the administration killing

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Speaker 2: and maiming people who oppose them, or the Iranian women's

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Speaker 2: soccer team who have requested asylum in Australia but now

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Speaker 2: their families are being kidnapped back in Iran and nobody's

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Speaker 2: speaking out for them. Nobody's wearing a pin.

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Speaker 1: You can really take a stand for them if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to, so they don't have to go back to

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Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale. But we're not saying anything about that.

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Speaker 2: Much easier to wear a Palestinian flag pin or something

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Speaker 2: and call for a ceasefire that happened months ago. What

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Speaker 2: are you gonna do, Hollywood, gonna Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple bright spots there, so good join.

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Speaker 2: No, you're optimistic, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know we're trying to turn a big ship

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Speaker 1: really sized cult problem a Disney.

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