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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everyone, and welcome inside with the Insiders alongside Judy,

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Speaker 1: Matissa and Ian Rappaport.

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Speaker 2: I am Tom Tellaserra. We are back into the regular season.

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Speaker 2: We explained.

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Speaker 1: If you are one of the many loyal viewers of

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Speaker 1: this show on YouTube, you'll notice this looks a tad

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Speaker 1: bit different. Gave me a kickoff decision to Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football every Monday through the forced regular season. That's on

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Speaker 1: in our Norble time slot on NFL Network. But we

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Speaker 1: are still here with you to bring all of our

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Speaker 1: reactions to the news coming out of each week of

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Speaker 1: the NFL season on YouTube, on the podcast on the

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Speaker 1: Fast Channel as well. We start with what we saw

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Speaker 1: last night, and Ian, I'm going to come to you

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Speaker 1: initially with the question that I'm sure is on America's minds.

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Speaker 1: Were you still away? Yeah? Here's one that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's how it went.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, long day yesterday, up early for game day morning,

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Speaker 4: Now Here was basically the way it was watched. All

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Speaker 4: At four o'clock, you get to the Lake game, You're

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Speaker 4: our strategy is we get to Sunday night and you

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Speaker 3: It was a little snoozing.

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Speaker 4: Then I got up and I finished watching the game

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Speaker 1: Did you make it? No?

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Speaker 5: And frankly I didn't even try, because on Sunday, I'll

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Speaker 2: Though we Week one, we all know sometimes can be

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Speaker 1: But you just watch these teams, it's hard. I understand

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Speaker 2: I almost just come away from watching a game like that.

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Speaker 1: Going if you can't get one of those three, four

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Speaker 2: It was really impressive to watch what both teams did offensively.

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Speaker 4: And I just love the reaction so much because you know,

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Speaker 5: But like, are they turning into the Bills where they

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Speaker 1: Here. Now, the game of the day, to Judy's point,

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Speaker 1: an email last night we were talking about this show.

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Speaker 2: We saw bits and pieces of it because I was

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Speaker 2: Friday situation. That was Scott Hansen's line over over on

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Speaker 5: I think this is the kind of rare game where

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Speaker 5: both teams should come out of it feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 6: And I know, you know, Aaron Glenn said, like, no

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Speaker 6: moral victories. I get it. We'll get to the Jets

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Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron Rodgers looked about as good as you

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Speaker 5: Sorry Aaron, four touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: No interceptions. Team was sacked. The offensive line is rough.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was the Lions pascin coordinator last year. His

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Speaker 2: And Judy has an article on that game. You can

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Speaker 2: Batista were also in a bunch of division games across

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Speaker 2: that was not particularly competitive, ian the Packers and Lions.

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Speaker 2: All credit to Green Bay. You wondered there were a

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Speaker 4: There's a NFL there's an account, sort of NFL account

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Speaker 5: Because I think maybe we have we talked a lot

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Speaker 6: They did not look anything like what they looked like

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Speaker 2: It happened in essentially garbage time. But let's also not

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Speaker 1: Just give it to him, like you can kind of

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't surprise anyone.

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Speaker 1: That touchdown where Devin Withers appears that both his hands

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Speaker 4: plays to make to make sure that they somehow escaped

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Speaker 4: through the win despite all the injuries, and they did it,

440
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Speaker 4: and like that's sort of what they usually do, so

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Speaker 4: that's good. And I think the other thing was we

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Speaker 4: spend so much time talking about Christian McCaffrey. You know,

443
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Speaker 4: in the run game he looked okay. In the past game,

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Speaker 4: he looked like himself. I mean he looked for all

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Speaker 4: the wondering about like his calf like, he looked regular.

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Speaker 2: And we very quickly heard that the day after the injury,

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Speaker 2: and I said on Good Morning Football the next day,

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Speaker 2: I did not get the sense the alarm bells were up.

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Speaker 2: This is a case where a guy who'sas many issues

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Speaker 2: as McCaffrey, if he feels anything the slightest twins, you

451
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Speaker 2: just go take it.

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Speaker 1: Easy, go to the side. The next day he's running

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Speaker 1: around out there and did everything and walk through it

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Speaker 1: was pretty apparent if are in a setback, he was

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Speaker 1: going to be on the field. That's still the most

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Speaker 1: important player well.

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Speaker 4: But also but also you could tell how silent it

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Speaker 4: was from the forty nine ers that they were kind

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Speaker 4: of like, yeah, uh.

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Speaker 1: Road before it should be good. But yeah more from

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Speaker 1: the insiders after this, Uh, Bucks and Falcons another division battle.

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Speaker 1: And this felt judy like one of those games that

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Speaker 1: we just see the.

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Speaker 2: Bucks find a way. There's a reason that they win

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Speaker 2: the division every year. The Falcons had moments with Michael

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Speaker 2: Pennock s Juior at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's it's just week one. It comes down to

468
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Speaker 1: a field goal. Young Way Coup misses it.

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Speaker 2: Now the Falcons are going to be, you know, bringing

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Speaker 2: in some kickers for workouts over the next couple of

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Speaker 2: days here.

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Speaker 1: That's been an ongoing issue for me in the kicking game.

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Speaker 1: But it just feels like in those big moments.

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Speaker 2: I know they had a couple of comeback wins early

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Speaker 2: last season, but the Falcons are still kind of figured

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Speaker 2: out at you know, in crunch time, how to get

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Speaker 2: over the hum.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say, uh, while we wait for Judy

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Speaker 4: to get some connectivity. You know, I think a couple

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Speaker 4: of things we learned from the Buck. You know, they

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Speaker 4: they have a new offensive coordinator this one. I know

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Speaker 4: Joshka's are very nice guy, very young guy, and I

483
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Speaker 4: wonder and I think internally in that building they were

484
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Speaker 4: kind of like, we like this guy a lot. They

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Speaker 4: chose him over some really good young coordinators and we're

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Speaker 4: like it just might take some time. And so watching that,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, all right, like this is what

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Speaker 4: it's supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: It's a little uneven.

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Speaker 4: You know, they got to like figure stuff out and

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Speaker 4: then like you get to crunch time and you kind

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Speaker 4: of let Baker be who he is and they figured

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Speaker 4: it out in one and you're like, all right, like

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Speaker 4: this is this is a good team. And like I

495
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Speaker 4: think Jason Light has very famously watched power rankings very

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Speaker 4: closely and really hates when everyone ranks the Bucks low.

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Speaker 4: But like, at some point we should just assume that

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Speaker 4: they're going to be good. And I don't know if

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Speaker 4: we're there yet, but like we should just assume they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: A Mecca Buco looked.

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Speaker 6: That was without Chris Godwin. This was about Chris god.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, and like it's point they get him back soon,

504
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Speaker 4: and like, you know, I mean they got so I

505
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Speaker 4: just full disclosure.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm you know, telling anything out of school.

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Speaker 4: So Jason like caused me this week and we're talking

508
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Speaker 4: about receivers and he's like calls me back and he's like,

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Speaker 4: you got to watch our young receivers, Cam Johnson and

510
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Speaker 4: teded Johnson. I'm like, he said, do you know who

511
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Speaker 4: those guys are? I'm like, obviously I do. I've done

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Speaker 4: all the homework He's like, just watch them. No one

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Speaker 4: knows who they are, and you will see. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: he's exactly right. And on the field, you see the

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Speaker 4: big play and you're like, all right, like this team's

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Speaker 4: pretty good now we hear you.

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Speaker 6: Oh sorry, Uh yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think Todd Bowles has just First of all, they've

519
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Speaker 5: won the division five years in a row. I mean,

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Speaker 5: at some point we have to acknowledge, like they're really

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Speaker 5: good and they're really consistent, and Todd Bowles is a

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Speaker 5: really really good coach. I would repeat again without Chris Godwin.

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Speaker 5: They did this last year. They got swept by the

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Speaker 5: Falcons and still won the division.

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Speaker 6: So they're sort of way ahead of the plan right now.

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Speaker 5: Now. Look, I thought Baker looked a little bit rusty early.

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Speaker 5: He didn't play in the preseason, and then obviously they

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Speaker 5: got going and he was tremendous when they needed him most.

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Speaker 5: I feel very good about the Bucks because I think

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Speaker 5: they do just win these sort of messy, sort of

531
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Speaker 5: non impressive looking games and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 5: you look up and it's like, oh, they won the division.

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Speaker 6: Okay, fine, yeah, they'll make a season of that.

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Speaker 2: We've also been waiting for the Bengals to end their

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Speaker 2: streak of slow starts. Technically that took place yesterday there

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Speaker 2: for once not you know, oh and two, oh and three,

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Speaker 2: one and four, whatever it is, and then having to

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Speaker 2: claw back. That was a battle, though, Judy with a

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Speaker 2: Browns team that this has been the question about them

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Speaker 2: all along. We know they're gonna be able to play defense,

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Speaker 2: we know they've got some freaky dudes. Started with Miles

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Speaker 2: Garrett on that side of the balls. Can you get

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Speaker 2: an off offense? And they almost did to knock off

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Speaker 2: a team that a lot of people think should be

545
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Speaker 2: competing with the likes of the Bills and the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the AFC.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to assume that the Cincinnati the offense is

548
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Speaker 5: going to be a lot better and more productive than

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Speaker 5: it was yesterday, because there's just no way that that

550
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Speaker 5: collection of talent can produce like whatever Joe Burrow had,

551
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Speaker 5: like you know, one hundred and ninety yards or something stupid.

552
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Speaker 5: Jamar Chase was almost not involved in the game at all,

553
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Speaker 5: the best receiver in football. There's no way that that

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Speaker 5: offense is going to be that bad at any point.

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Speaker 5: I was encouraged by the defense because there hasn't been

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Speaker 5: one in a few years, and so I thought they're

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Speaker 5: going to win a defensive game.

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Speaker 6: Basically, the defense was going to win this game. And

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Speaker 6: I can't say that.

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Speaker 5: For the Bengals over the last however many years, it's

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Speaker 5: been Listen, the Browns. Joe Flacco had a better game

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Speaker 5: than his statline because people kept dropping his passes and

563
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Speaker 5: then sometimes the drops led to interceptions, and so his

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Speaker 5: statline doesn't look particularly good. But I thought Joe Flacco

565
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Speaker 5: played fine. The defense, you know, limited the Bengals. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I thought the Browns looked probably better than I thought,

567
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Speaker 5: except they couldn't, you know, it, couldn't put points on

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Speaker 5: the board. But they were not you know, listen, because

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Speaker 5: of the four way quarterback competition all that. I think

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Speaker 5: sometimes you expect the Brown squad there and just be

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Speaker 5: a mess, and they were not a mess.

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Speaker 6: They could have won that game.

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Speaker 5: If I'm the Bengals, I'm thinking, like, well, let's get

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Speaker 5: that defense was pretty good, and could we please get

575
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Speaker 5: our incredible offensive stars, please play like incredible offensive stars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a couple of my takeaways from the game,

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Speaker 4: so we talk. You know, we obviously spent a lot

578
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Speaker 4: of this offseason talking about defensive ends or pass rushers

579
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Speaker 4: getting paid a lot of money. I think Miles Garrett

580
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Speaker 4: maybe deserves more. I mean, he set the record.

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Speaker 3: At the time. He's so good. I mean, he's just

582
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Speaker 3: so good.

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Speaker 4: And like, yes, the Bengals offensive line struggled, everyone's offensive

584
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Speaker 4: line would struggle. He's so good, and like, you know,

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Speaker 4: you'll use the term like, oh, this guy's like a

586
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Speaker 4: game wrecker. That's kind of what they're talking about, Like

587
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Speaker 4: that is that is a game wrecker. So like, yes,

588
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Speaker 4: the Bengals should have been better, but like I short

589
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Speaker 4: of weirdly don't in them because nobody could stop Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 4: And I'm kind of with with Judy on the Bengals offense,

591
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Speaker 4: like Joe Burrow is not going to play like this

592
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Speaker 4: for very long.

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Speaker 3: And that's I mean, he's going to get back to

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Speaker 3: where he was.

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Speaker 4: And thing more encouraging was like, you know, the defense

596
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Speaker 4: was so bad in the preseason, Like, man, this team

597
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Speaker 4: could really use Trandricks and then they add him and

598
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Speaker 4: then they're pretty good and you're like, oh, maybe the defensive.

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Speaker 3: Coordinator is pretty good. Al Golden by the way, Tom

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Speaker 3: and maybe Tranerson helps.

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Speaker 1: This is my new favorite thing.

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Speaker 6: Coach.

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Speaker 2: Who the coaches are that are on the various teams

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Speaker 2: will continue. We broke that one actually in part two

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Speaker 2: of the podcasts. We actually did. Uh so Part two

606
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Speaker 2: is what we do on Mondays. Here, you get one part,

607
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Speaker 2: you get the second part. That's how two parter works.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: We got to get to some other teams they did

610
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Speaker 2: not get off to the best starts in week one,

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Speaker 2: the Giants, Where do things go from here?

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Speaker 1: If anywhere? Quarterback? And where don Dolphins go as well?

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Speaker 1: Also look ahead to a Monday night football game that

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Speaker 1: is a good one, the Vikings and the Bears. Stick around.

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Speaker 1: Tune in for part two for Judy Ian. I'm Tom

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Speaker 1: Seither

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