1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,715 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. This 2 00:00:21,915 --> 00:00:25,755 Speaker 1: is Countdown for Wednesday, January twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, 3 00:00:25,915 --> 00:00:30,315 Speaker 1: day nine of Donald J. Trump's dementia crisis. I can't 4 00:00:30,355 --> 00:00:33,515 Speaker 1: believe Nikki Haley blew that six nothing lead she had 5 00:00:33,515 --> 00:00:38,995 Speaker 1: in Dixville, notch. I can believe though, that Trump, bright, orange, 6 00:00:39,355 --> 00:00:43,475 Speaker 1: glossy and sweating at his petty victory speech did not 7 00:00:43,675 --> 00:00:46,515 Speaker 1: do as well as he needed to, as well as 8 00:00:46,515 --> 00:00:49,515 Speaker 1: his cult needed him to, as well as they expected 9 00:00:49,595 --> 00:00:53,075 Speaker 1: him to, because ten minutes after the polls closed in 10 00:00:53,075 --> 00:00:57,555 Speaker 1: New Hampshire last night, Marjorie Taylor Barney Rubbell Green was 11 00:00:57,595 --> 00:01:00,755 Speaker 1: on one of the fascist propaganda channels claiming the vote 12 00:01:00,755 --> 00:01:05,435 Speaker 1: had been rigged against Trump, even though he had clearly 13 00:01:05,515 --> 00:01:08,715 Speaker 1: won by a lot. And I know she's insane, but 14 00:01:08,795 --> 00:01:12,115 Speaker 1: so is he, and so are they. Trump himself, who 15 00:01:12,115 --> 00:01:15,075 Speaker 1: will never be accused of being gracious in victory, was 16 00:01:15,235 --> 00:01:19,875 Speaker 1: clearly more angry than triumphant, and at times he seemed 17 00:01:20,035 --> 00:01:23,075 Speaker 1: even more angry with the microphone that would not move 18 00:01:23,115 --> 00:01:25,915 Speaker 1: when he tried to adjust it than he was even 19 00:01:26,075 --> 00:01:30,235 Speaker 1: at Nikki Haley. And he was plenty angry at Nikki Haley. 20 00:01:30,475 --> 00:01:33,675 Speaker 2: Who the hell was the impostor that went up on 21 00:01:33,795 --> 00:01:36,995 Speaker 2: the stage before and like claimed a victory. 22 00:01:37,035 --> 00:01:39,435 Speaker 3: She did very poorly. Actually she had to win. 23 00:01:40,075 --> 00:01:42,515 Speaker 2: The governor said she's gonna win, she's gonna win, She's 24 00:01:42,555 --> 00:01:42,955 Speaker 2: gonna win. 25 00:01:43,515 --> 00:01:46,155 Speaker 3: Then she failed badly. 26 00:01:47,635 --> 00:01:53,675 Speaker 1: Still dementia. Jay Trump was so true to himself last night, cranky, vindictive, small, 27 00:01:54,155 --> 00:01:57,475 Speaker 1: full of easily refuted factual lives to cover up the 28 00:01:57,515 --> 00:02:01,555 Speaker 1: reality that he lost to Hampshire in two consecutive presidential elections. 29 00:02:01,835 --> 00:02:06,715 Speaker 1: Just petty. He complained for a while, and then he 30 00:02:06,755 --> 00:02:10,155 Speaker 1: had his creepy new Renfield Viviq Ramaswami get up and 31 00:02:10,155 --> 00:02:13,115 Speaker 1: in soell America's intelligence for another minute or so. And 32 00:02:13,155 --> 00:02:16,995 Speaker 1: then Trump got back up and basically turned his stochastic 33 00:02:17,275 --> 00:02:21,435 Speaker 1: terrorist gun in the direction of Nicki Haley, muted this 34 00:02:21,555 --> 00:02:25,675 Speaker 1: time with a third party involved to carry out the threat. 35 00:02:26,155 --> 00:02:30,075 Speaker 1: But muted or not, this was still a threat against 36 00:02:30,235 --> 00:02:31,195 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley. 37 00:02:31,515 --> 00:02:33,115 Speaker 3: And just a little note to Nicki. 38 00:02:34,075 --> 00:02:38,835 Speaker 2: She's not going to win, but if she did, she 39 00:02:38,915 --> 00:02:42,435 Speaker 2: would be under investigation by those people in fifteen minutes. 40 00:02:42,475 --> 00:02:46,075 Speaker 2: And I could tell you five reasons why already not 41 00:02:46,195 --> 00:02:46,915 Speaker 2: big reasons. 42 00:02:47,715 --> 00:02:50,355 Speaker 3: A little stuff that she doesn't want to talk about. 43 00:02:50,395 --> 00:02:53,915 Speaker 2: But she will be under investigation within minutes, and so 44 00:02:54,075 --> 00:02:55,355 Speaker 2: would Ron have been. 45 00:02:56,355 --> 00:02:59,435 Speaker 3: But he decided to get out. He decided to get out. 46 00:02:59,915 --> 00:03:04,195 Speaker 1: What an asshole. Anyway. Haley has vowed to stay in 47 00:03:04,275 --> 00:03:06,355 Speaker 1: this race, even though she will not do as well 48 00:03:06,395 --> 00:03:08,635 Speaker 1: in her own state of South Carolina as she did 49 00:03:08,635 --> 00:03:11,275 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, and even though Trump will clearly have 50 00:03:11,395 --> 00:03:14,915 Speaker 1: done slightly better against the field than he did against 51 00:03:14,955 --> 00:03:17,635 Speaker 1: the field in Iowa, and more or less he will 52 00:03:17,715 --> 00:03:21,755 Speaker 1: hit everybody's expectations, but I guess his own with fifty 53 00:03:21,875 --> 00:03:26,555 Speaker 1: seven percent or more. Haley has also hung two albatrosses 54 00:03:26,595 --> 00:03:30,155 Speaker 1: around her own neck. You cannot say, as she did, 55 00:03:30,235 --> 00:03:33,035 Speaker 1: we almost got half the votes and not have that 56 00:03:33,195 --> 00:03:35,875 Speaker 1: shouted at you every day for the next month, even 57 00:03:35,875 --> 00:03:38,955 Speaker 1: if the context of that performance makes almost half the 58 00:03:39,035 --> 00:03:42,835 Speaker 1: votes more impressive than it might initially sound. Her second 59 00:03:42,875 --> 00:03:46,035 Speaker 1: problem is more symbolic. If you cannot do very well 60 00:03:46,115 --> 00:03:49,275 Speaker 1: in a state that has the same initials as you do, 61 00:03:49,315 --> 00:03:53,235 Speaker 1: you have a problem. The overall issue, underscored time and 62 00:03:53,355 --> 00:03:57,435 Speaker 1: time again within the Republican Party for the last thirty years, 63 00:03:57,715 --> 00:04:01,435 Speaker 1: is that political office is no longer attracting as many 64 00:04:01,635 --> 00:04:04,475 Speaker 1: quality human beings as it used to And when I 65 00:04:04,475 --> 00:04:10,515 Speaker 1: say quality human beings, I mean non felons and non idiots. 66 00:04:11,235 --> 00:04:15,195 Speaker 1: Trump is a felon, Haley is an idiot, DeSantis is 67 00:04:15,195 --> 00:04:19,635 Speaker 1: an idiot, Ramaswami is two idiots, and Tim Scott is 68 00:04:19,795 --> 00:04:24,755 Speaker 1: three idiots. There is also probably little to be gleaned 69 00:04:24,795 --> 00:04:27,835 Speaker 1: from the New Hampshire exit polls. Half the voters there 70 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:30,915 Speaker 1: were not registered Republicans, and so the exits were far 71 00:04:30,955 --> 00:04:35,275 Speaker 1: too optimistic for our purposes. Anyway, forty four percent voting 72 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:38,115 Speaker 1: in the primary say if convicted of a crime, Trump 73 00:04:38,195 --> 00:04:41,795 Speaker 1: is unfit for the presidency, But probably more than half 74 00:04:41,875 --> 00:04:45,035 Speaker 1: of that forty four percent are not registered Republicans, and 75 00:04:45,075 --> 00:04:48,195 Speaker 1: the registered Republicans went for Trump by about three quarters. 76 00:04:49,155 --> 00:04:52,755 Speaker 1: As to the general election, of course, three quarters. If 77 00:04:52,835 --> 00:04:58,235 Speaker 1: one out of every four Republicans votes against Trump, Biden 78 00:04:58,275 --> 00:05:03,075 Speaker 1: would win in a landslide. There was one interesting exit 79 00:05:03,195 --> 00:05:07,795 Speaker 1: poll number. Eight percent of Hailey supporters say they would 80 00:05:07,795 --> 00:05:11,995 Speaker 1: be dissatisfied if Trump wins the nomination, and dissatisfied is 81 00:05:12,035 --> 00:05:14,475 Speaker 1: not automatically the same as I will never vote for him, 82 00:05:14,555 --> 00:05:17,195 Speaker 1: but that is still a huge number eighty eight percent, 83 00:05:17,235 --> 00:05:19,875 Speaker 1: And even if all the registered Republicans were in the 84 00:05:19,915 --> 00:05:22,595 Speaker 1: minority in the twelve percent, it would still be satisfied. 85 00:05:23,275 --> 00:05:27,275 Speaker 1: You've still got a large enough number of dissatisfied Republicans 86 00:05:27,755 --> 00:05:30,995 Speaker 1: that if the number were repeated nationally, it would sink 87 00:05:31,155 --> 00:05:35,515 Speaker 1: Trump if one out of every four Republicans votes against Trump. 88 00:05:36,195 --> 00:05:41,435 Speaker 1: If forty five percent, forty percent of Republicans are dissatisfied 89 00:05:41,475 --> 00:05:46,395 Speaker 1: with Trump as the nominee, it would sink Trump. There 90 00:05:46,475 --> 00:05:49,515 Speaker 1: wasn't actually a Democratic primary in Hampshire last night, and 91 00:05:49,555 --> 00:05:52,715 Speaker 1: Biden wasn't even on the beauty pageant ballot that they 92 00:05:52,715 --> 00:05:55,635 Speaker 1: did have, which makes his win by right in at 93 00:05:55,675 --> 00:06:00,635 Speaker 1: about sixty eight percent terrifically impressive. Dean Phillips got most 94 00:06:00,675 --> 00:06:03,875 Speaker 1: of the rest, and he managed to be ungracious in defeat, 95 00:06:04,355 --> 00:06:08,035 Speaker 1: swear at reporters early in the day, claiming the voters 96 00:06:08,035 --> 00:06:10,915 Speaker 1: missed the chance to do the most important thing in 97 00:06:10,955 --> 00:06:14,195 Speaker 1: American history or something when they didn't vote for him. 98 00:06:14,315 --> 00:06:16,435 Speaker 1: I believe the technical term for what he's been doing 99 00:06:16,515 --> 00:06:21,275 Speaker 1: lately is hallucinating, except perhaps when he reversed his statement 100 00:06:21,395 --> 00:06:24,675 Speaker 1: from Tuesday that he would consider running as the no 101 00:06:24,955 --> 00:06:28,595 Speaker 1: labels candidate. If he had done that, he would have 102 00:06:28,595 --> 00:06:33,035 Speaker 1: had to have entered a witness relocation program. As always, 103 00:06:33,235 --> 00:06:36,275 Speaker 1: a primary sucks the oxygen right out of the political room. 104 00:06:36,315 --> 00:06:38,955 Speaker 1: And that is too bad because there actually was a 105 00:06:39,155 --> 00:06:43,395 Speaker 1: huge nuts and bolts presidential race news story yesterday and 106 00:06:43,435 --> 00:06:48,435 Speaker 1: it got buried. Susquehanna Polling and Research not the best, 107 00:06:48,835 --> 00:06:51,635 Speaker 1: but pretty good in Pennsylvania even when it has seemed 108 00:06:51,675 --> 00:06:55,475 Speaker 1: like an outlier. Susquehanna Polling and Research did a week 109 00:06:55,555 --> 00:06:59,515 Speaker 1: long poll ending Sunday on the presidential race. It has 110 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:05,435 Speaker 1: Biden winning in Pennsylvania forty seven to thirty nine. Polls 111 00:07:05,555 --> 00:07:10,035 Speaker 1: show Biden up in Pennsylvania, but like by one. As 112 00:07:10,155 --> 00:07:13,435 Speaker 1: John Harwood wrote, and he was the first reporter fired 113 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:15,995 Speaker 1: by the right wing regime when it took over CNN, 114 00:07:16,395 --> 00:07:18,315 Speaker 1: and a man I knew at NBC to be a 115 00:07:18,395 --> 00:07:22,435 Speaker 1: small c conservative. John Harwood wrote yesterday, quote, we're in 116 00:07:22,595 --> 00:07:27,595 Speaker 1: early stages of massive analytics shift from Biden's in big 117 00:07:27,635 --> 00:07:32,835 Speaker 1: trouble to Trump's in big trouble. I think he's right. 118 00:07:33,435 --> 00:07:37,075 Speaker 1: I think this is just the start. And now Dementia 119 00:07:37,115 --> 00:08:18,195 Speaker 1: watch twenty twenty four. Thank you, Nancy Faust. Apart from 120 00:08:18,235 --> 00:08:21,115 Speaker 1: the stuff on the ground in New Hampshire yesterday, Several 121 00:08:21,155 --> 00:08:24,435 Speaker 1: other cries for help have emerged from the hellscape of 122 00:08:24,515 --> 00:08:29,315 Speaker 1: Trump's addled brain. Most disturbing among them, he reposted an 123 00:08:29,395 --> 00:08:33,435 Speaker 1: AI image supplied by a cultist of him praying in 124 00:08:33,515 --> 00:08:38,075 Speaker 1: a church. How do we know it's Ai, Well, he's 125 00:08:38,195 --> 00:08:41,675 Speaker 1: praying in a church. But the dementia part of it is. 126 00:08:42,035 --> 00:08:45,595 Speaker 1: This man who is obsessed with his own image reposted 127 00:08:45,635 --> 00:08:49,395 Speaker 1: this praying in church fake, even though it is quite 128 00:08:49,475 --> 00:08:53,795 Speaker 1: clearly afflicted with the so far unsalvable bugaboo of AI. 129 00:08:54,715 --> 00:08:59,835 Speaker 1: Bonus fingers in the picture which is about Trump praying 130 00:09:00,075 --> 00:09:04,475 Speaker 1: hands clasped, his right hand has at least five fingers 131 00:09:04,755 --> 00:09:08,155 Speaker 1: plus a thumb, and the left hand, which is partially 132 00:09:08,155 --> 00:09:11,995 Speaker 1: obscured by the right hand, may have five fingers and 133 00:09:12,115 --> 00:09:17,795 Speaker 1: two thumbs. Sure, put it out, they'll never know the difference. 134 00:09:18,795 --> 00:09:21,995 Speaker 1: Not long after, Trump posted all caps, I get much 135 00:09:22,035 --> 00:09:25,355 Speaker 1: better poll numbers against Biden. And of course he spelled 136 00:09:25,515 --> 00:09:30,675 Speaker 1: pole wrong pol e as in stripper pole. And of 137 00:09:30,715 --> 00:09:33,835 Speaker 1: course he did. He's a moron. He didn't go to school. 138 00:09:34,275 --> 00:09:37,395 Speaker 1: Dad bought him a series of diplomas. It's not his 139 00:09:37,515 --> 00:09:42,075 Speaker 1: stupidity he's always had that. It's his decreasing ability to 140 00:09:42,475 --> 00:09:48,355 Speaker 1: check just in case somebody does notice how stupid he is. 141 00:09:48,675 --> 00:09:50,475 Speaker 1: How do you bring these nicky Hailey goods, someone who 142 00:09:50,475 --> 00:09:52,275 Speaker 1: has voted for you in twenty twenty but said they 143 00:09:52,315 --> 00:09:53,195 Speaker 1: don't want you now. 144 00:09:53,635 --> 00:09:55,435 Speaker 3: Vote, How do you bring them back into the ticket. 145 00:09:55,555 --> 00:09:57,795 Speaker 3: All vote for me again? You can all vote for 146 00:09:57,915 --> 00:10:00,435 Speaker 3: me again, everybody. And I'm not sure we need too many. 147 00:10:00,795 --> 00:10:04,075 Speaker 1: That was Londonderry, New Hampshire, about one thirty yesterday afternoon, 148 00:10:04,115 --> 00:10:07,195 Speaker 1: where firs He said all of Haley's voters would vote 149 00:10:07,235 --> 00:10:10,515 Speaker 1: for him, and then he immediately said he didn't need 150 00:10:10,635 --> 00:10:13,275 Speaker 1: Haley's voters to vote for him, which is a damn 151 00:10:13,395 --> 00:10:16,315 Speaker 1: stupid thing even for Trump to say, given that forty 152 00:10:16,395 --> 00:10:19,235 Speaker 1: three percent of Haley's voters in Iowa said they wouldn't 153 00:10:19,315 --> 00:10:22,715 Speaker 1: vote for him, and within the Republican Party and Republican 154 00:10:22,835 --> 00:10:27,395 Speaker 1: Leaning independence nationally, fourteen percent of them say they won't 155 00:10:27,515 --> 00:10:30,435 Speaker 1: vote for him, compared to only nine percent of Democrats 156 00:10:30,475 --> 00:10:33,675 Speaker 1: and Democratic leaners who say they won't vote for President Biden. 157 00:10:34,195 --> 00:10:38,075 Speaker 1: Trump would need every vote he could get, and just 158 00:10:38,275 --> 00:10:41,475 Speaker 1: as Haley was willing to question Trump's mental state, so 159 00:10:41,915 --> 00:10:45,075 Speaker 1: is her leading advocate from New Hampshire Governor Chris Sanunu 160 00:10:45,315 --> 00:10:48,555 Speaker 1: Trump has no energy, he said at least twice. The 161 00:10:48,675 --> 00:10:52,155 Speaker 1: guy can barely read a teleprompter right now on quote 162 00:10:53,115 --> 00:10:55,475 Speaker 1: why governor whatever do you mean? 163 00:10:56,075 --> 00:11:01,355 Speaker 4: Which is incapable of solving even the solst smallest problem, 164 00:11:01,875 --> 00:11:04,435 Speaker 4: the simplest of problems, we can no longer solve. 165 00:11:05,075 --> 00:11:08,755 Speaker 3: We can't do anything. We are an institute and a 166 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:10,195 Speaker 3: powerful death penalty. 167 00:11:10,355 --> 00:11:14,195 Speaker 1: We will put this on incapable of solvent. You say 168 00:11:15,315 --> 00:11:21,315 Speaker 1: we are an institute, Uh huh in a powered death penalty. 169 00:11:22,835 --> 00:11:27,035 Speaker 1: First rule of teleprompter club is pre read the goddamned 170 00:11:27,075 --> 00:11:31,875 Speaker 1: script moron. Second rule of teleprompter club is never use 171 00:11:31,995 --> 00:11:32,835 Speaker 1: the third person. 172 00:11:33,555 --> 00:11:37,755 Speaker 3: Yes, oh, yes, and quickly says President Trump. We will 173 00:11:37,835 --> 00:11:39,075 Speaker 3: be there very quickly. 174 00:11:39,955 --> 00:11:42,795 Speaker 1: And the first rule of campaign club is never write 175 00:11:42,835 --> 00:11:45,515 Speaker 1: your opponent's commercials for him. I have told you before 176 00:11:46,155 --> 00:11:49,955 Speaker 1: of the reported Biden campaign belief that they want Trump 177 00:11:50,075 --> 00:11:54,235 Speaker 1: to wrap up the nomination quickly, because the campaign's research 178 00:11:54,355 --> 00:11:58,755 Speaker 1: indicates that three out of four undecided voters still really 179 00:11:58,915 --> 00:12:02,475 Speaker 1: can't or won't believe Trump will be the Republican nominee, 180 00:12:02,635 --> 00:12:05,755 Speaker 1: and when he is, that will produce what Biden campaign 181 00:12:05,795 --> 00:12:09,475 Speaker 1: staffer is quaintly characterized as the quote, oh, shit moment 182 00:12:09,915 --> 00:12:15,675 Speaker 1: and then a huge swing towards Biden. Don't write Biden's 183 00:12:15,835 --> 00:12:19,235 Speaker 1: ads for him. Example number one. If you don't want 184 00:12:19,235 --> 00:12:22,395 Speaker 1: to be connected to the lunatic fringe cult called QAnon, 185 00:12:23,115 --> 00:12:26,715 Speaker 1: don't give a thumbs up when one of those infected 186 00:12:26,755 --> 00:12:29,515 Speaker 1: with the q paranoia shows up at your rally and 187 00:12:29,675 --> 00:12:34,035 Speaker 1: shouts out their nonsensical slogan, and especially don't follow it 188 00:12:34,115 --> 00:12:37,395 Speaker 1: up seconds later with a smirking promise to pardon the 189 00:12:37,475 --> 00:13:00,795 Speaker 1: traders of January sixth will and don't write Biden's ads 190 00:13:00,835 --> 00:13:04,195 Speaker 1: for him. Example number two. If you are not mentally well, 191 00:13:05,035 --> 00:13:07,715 Speaker 1: or if you want people to disbelieve the mounting evidence 192 00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:13,155 Speaker 1: that you are not mentally well, do not do sound 193 00:13:13,195 --> 00:13:15,115 Speaker 1: effects during a speech. 194 00:13:15,155 --> 00:13:17,555 Speaker 3: And they calmly walk to a seat bing ding ding 195 00:13:17,635 --> 00:13:18,275 Speaker 3: ding ding ding. 196 00:13:18,635 --> 00:13:21,235 Speaker 4: They've only got seventeen seconds to figure this whole thing 197 00:13:21,275 --> 00:13:30,955 Speaker 4: out right, bomb okay, Misi launch phin pom six eye. 198 00:13:37,595 --> 00:13:39,675 Speaker 3: Free. 199 00:13:41,475 --> 00:13:47,955 Speaker 5: Why these are the stakes? 200 00:13:48,195 --> 00:13:51,675 Speaker 3: Bing ding ding ding ding ding Misi launch phin pom. 201 00:13:52,275 --> 00:13:57,355 Speaker 1: We must either love each other or we must die. 202 00:13:57,795 --> 00:14:03,115 Speaker 1: Vote for President Biden on November fifth. The stakes are 203 00:14:03,235 --> 00:14:11,395 Speaker 1: too high for you to stay home in stuff that 204 00:14:11,555 --> 00:14:14,555 Speaker 1: is neither dementia or New Hampshire if you're wondering where 205 00:14:14,595 --> 00:14:18,395 Speaker 1: the Republican impeachment theater went a huge blow yesterday at 206 00:14:18,395 --> 00:14:22,355 Speaker 1: a House oversight Chairman Congressman Jamie comb Over last week, 207 00:14:22,435 --> 00:14:25,195 Speaker 1: the attorney for Kevin Morris, one of the Hunter Biden 208 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:29,555 Speaker 1: witnesses Comber deposed in private, demanded that Comer immediately release 209 00:14:29,635 --> 00:14:32,475 Speaker 1: the full transcript of the deposition and said that Comber 210 00:14:32,555 --> 00:14:35,835 Speaker 1: had lied about what Morris had said. The lawyer used 211 00:14:35,835 --> 00:14:40,035 Speaker 1: the word mischaracterized, He meant the word lied. Now some 212 00:14:40,355 --> 00:14:43,235 Speaker 1: of the transcripts of the depositions have come out, selected 213 00:14:43,275 --> 00:14:46,195 Speaker 1: by Republicans on the Committee, and in them two of 214 00:14:46,315 --> 00:14:49,715 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's friends have testified under oath that they never 215 00:14:49,835 --> 00:14:53,155 Speaker 1: discussed business with nor received any benefit from the President. 216 00:14:54,075 --> 00:14:58,715 Speaker 1: There is no cause nor excuse for any more impeachment talk. 217 00:14:59,915 --> 00:15:02,475 Speaker 1: On the other hand, you know which investigation is suddenly 218 00:15:02,515 --> 00:15:06,155 Speaker 1: alive in the House, the Ethics pro into Matt Gates, 219 00:15:06,795 --> 00:15:09,555 Speaker 1: with George Santos out of the way. ABC News is 220 00:15:09,635 --> 00:15:11,675 Speaker 1: reporting that in the last few days, the Committee quote 221 00:15:11,955 --> 00:15:15,795 Speaker 1: has reached out to multiple new witnesses, expanding its contact 222 00:15:15,835 --> 00:15:18,755 Speaker 1: with individuals who have ties to the initial Justice Department 223 00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:24,915 Speaker 1: investigation into Gates and have begun conducting interviews. The lawyer 224 00:15:25,035 --> 00:15:28,355 Speaker 1: for Gates buddy Joel Greenberg, who pleaded guilty to sex trafficking, 225 00:15:28,595 --> 00:15:33,075 Speaker 1: will neither quote, confirm or deny that Greenberg is cooperating 226 00:15:33,395 --> 00:15:35,955 Speaker 1: as House Republicans try to expel Gates on some kind 227 00:15:35,955 --> 00:15:39,715 Speaker 1: of iglicit sex charge. The trial to determine how much 228 00:15:39,795 --> 00:15:42,835 Speaker 1: Trump owes E. Gene Carroll was to resume today in 229 00:15:42,915 --> 00:15:46,155 Speaker 1: New York. It will not. Illness still running roughshan through 230 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:48,955 Speaker 1: the jury and in a story that could flare at 231 00:15:49,035 --> 00:15:52,835 Speaker 1: any moment into the biggest story in the country. The 232 00:15:52,995 --> 00:15:56,275 Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruled Monday that the federal government can go 233 00:15:56,435 --> 00:16:00,995 Speaker 1: in and take out the razor wire death traps installed 234 00:16:01,075 --> 00:16:05,635 Speaker 1: in rivers along the Texas Mexico border. Yesterday, Texas National 235 00:16:05,675 --> 00:16:08,355 Speaker 1: Guard soldiers were caught on video not only still blocking 236 00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:12,235 Speaker 1: federal authorities from removing the razor wire, in direct violation 237 00:16:12,315 --> 00:16:14,795 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court order, but putting more of it 238 00:16:14,955 --> 00:16:20,355 Speaker 1: in to kill more people seeking asylum here. Look, this 239 00:16:20,515 --> 00:16:24,715 Speaker 1: isn't complicated. Texas has gone rogue, and its governor, Greg 240 00:16:24,755 --> 00:16:28,995 Speaker 1: Abbott is in violation of the constitution, to say nothing 241 00:16:29,195 --> 00:16:33,155 Speaker 1: of all human morals, didn't some senator threaten to have 242 00:16:33,355 --> 00:16:37,835 Speaker 1: me arrested for saying the court could be ignored. Well, 243 00:16:37,875 --> 00:16:40,515 Speaker 1: if those are the rules, President Biden now has the 244 00:16:40,595 --> 00:16:44,075 Speaker 1: right to federalize the Texas National Guard the way Eisenhower 245 00:16:44,155 --> 00:16:47,635 Speaker 1: and Kennedy federalized the National Guard when lawless governors in 246 00:16:47,675 --> 00:16:51,195 Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties tried to block court mandated integration. 247 00:16:51,915 --> 00:16:54,595 Speaker 1: And while the president is at it, he should send 248 00:16:54,635 --> 00:16:58,275 Speaker 1: in a purely federal unit to arrest anyone who furthers 249 00:16:58,355 --> 00:17:03,315 Speaker 1: this atrocity along the border. That means arrest Governor Greg Abbott, 250 00:17:04,035 --> 00:17:13,555 Speaker 1: arrest scumbag Already Also of interest here, the greatest radio 251 00:17:13,675 --> 00:17:16,115 Speaker 1: newscaster of all time, also one of the best ever 252 00:17:16,195 --> 00:17:20,995 Speaker 1: in television, has died. It's also awards season, and as usual, 253 00:17:21,595 --> 00:17:24,475 Speaker 1: both the Baseball Hall of Fame and the Oscars screwed 254 00:17:24,515 --> 00:17:29,075 Speaker 1: it up. You nominated Ken but not Barbie and Tiffany 255 00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:35,195 Speaker 1: Cross finally reveals which MSNBC host was behind her firing 256 00:17:35,275 --> 00:17:39,395 Speaker 1: there and you believe Hotez. That's next. 257 00:17:39,475 --> 00:17:40,395 Speaker 3: This is cave game. 258 00:17:42,715 --> 00:18:00,995 Speaker 5: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman. This is Sports Senate. Wait, 259 00:18:01,275 --> 00:18:08,835 Speaker 5: check that not anymore. This is countdown with Keith Ulberman 260 00:18:09,155 --> 00:18:17,395 Speaker 5: in Sports Dateline, Cooperstown, New York. The Baseball Writers' Association 261 00:18:17,515 --> 00:18:20,755 Speaker 5: of America continues its flawless voting record for the Baseball 262 00:18:20,835 --> 00:18:23,355 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. It has never gotten it exactly right. 263 00:18:24,555 --> 00:18:27,915 Speaker 5: This year, it has managed to get it wrong in 264 00:18:28,035 --> 00:18:31,595 Speaker 5: two different directions, depending on your point of view, either 265 00:18:31,755 --> 00:18:34,715 Speaker 5: one or two guys too many or one guy too few. 266 00:18:35,635 --> 00:18:39,555 Speaker 5: The writers elected third baseman Adrian Beltray of the Dodgers, 267 00:18:39,835 --> 00:18:43,155 Speaker 5: of the Rangers, of the Red Sox, of the Mariners, everywhere, 268 00:18:43,635 --> 00:18:46,075 Speaker 5: the last player from the twentieth century who was still 269 00:18:46,115 --> 00:18:49,195 Speaker 5: playing in the twenty first an acclaimed Hall of Famer, 270 00:18:49,235 --> 00:18:51,955 Speaker 5: and he got ninety five percent of the vote. Two 271 00:18:52,115 --> 00:18:55,715 Speaker 5: years ago, the great Colorado first baseman Todd Helton, who 272 00:18:55,875 --> 00:18:59,515 Speaker 5: was benched in favor of Peyton Manning as the quarterback 273 00:18:59,555 --> 00:19:02,875 Speaker 5: at the University of Tennessee. Helton got barely more than 274 00:19:02,955 --> 00:19:05,195 Speaker 5: fifty percent of the vote for the Baseball Hall of Fame, 275 00:19:05,235 --> 00:19:08,315 Speaker 5: but this year he got to nearly eighty and was elected. 276 00:19:08,835 --> 00:19:12,435 Speaker 5: Helton is a terrific guy, spent his whole career in Colorado. 277 00:19:12,475 --> 00:19:16,235 Speaker 5: I always loved visiting with him. Smart, funny, self deprecating However, 278 00:19:17,235 --> 00:19:20,115 Speaker 5: wins above replacement is not everything, but it's a good 279 00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:25,195 Speaker 5: starting point. And Helton's wins above replacement war was sixty 280 00:19:25,315 --> 00:19:28,955 Speaker 5: one point eight And that's less than Andrew Jones, less 281 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:33,795 Speaker 5: than Chase Utley, less than Reggie Smith, less than Willie Randolph, 282 00:19:34,355 --> 00:19:37,115 Speaker 5: less than Buddy Bell. None of them are in the 283 00:19:37,195 --> 00:19:39,875 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, and only Jones is likely to be. Ever, 284 00:19:40,795 --> 00:19:44,515 Speaker 5: and seventy six percent of voters chose the Twins catcher 285 00:19:44,595 --> 00:19:48,955 Speaker 5: and later first baseman Joe Mauer. Seventy five percent needed 286 00:19:49,035 --> 00:19:51,835 Speaker 5: for election and he got seventy six. Everybody loved Maer 287 00:19:51,875 --> 00:19:55,155 Speaker 5: and he won three batting championships as a catcher, unheard of. 288 00:19:55,715 --> 00:19:58,315 Speaker 5: But at age thirty, after injuries, he turned back into 289 00:19:58,355 --> 00:20:04,075 Speaker 5: a pumpkin like Helton, extremely popular, a local icon, always 290 00:20:04,115 --> 00:20:07,155 Speaker 5: of pleasure to deal with. And I'm not sure what 291 00:20:07,275 --> 00:20:09,555 Speaker 5: he's doing in the Hall of Fame. His wins above 292 00:20:09,595 --> 00:20:13,155 Speaker 5: replacement is less than that of Robin Ventura and Johnny 293 00:20:13,195 --> 00:20:17,795 Speaker 5: Damon and Will Clark and Jim Winn and Chet Lemon 294 00:20:18,435 --> 00:20:20,715 Speaker 5: and a whole lot of other guys who would themselves 295 00:20:20,795 --> 00:20:25,275 Speaker 5: tell you we are not Hall of famers. Billy Wagner, 296 00:20:25,315 --> 00:20:29,115 Speaker 5: the Astros, Phillies and Mets closer missed by five votes 297 00:20:29,155 --> 00:20:31,235 Speaker 5: of being the fourth player elected, and he would have 298 00:20:31,275 --> 00:20:36,115 Speaker 5: been a controversial choice too. Gary Sheffield, himself, a controversial slugger, 299 00:20:36,155 --> 00:20:38,315 Speaker 5: got only sixty four percent in his last year of 300 00:20:38,355 --> 00:20:42,115 Speaker 5: eligibility and has now fallen off the ballot. Reuters Alex 301 00:20:42,235 --> 00:20:44,995 Speaker 5: Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez did not get close, so at 302 00:20:45,075 --> 00:20:51,395 Speaker 5: least the writers got that right dateline New York. Since 303 00:20:51,435 --> 00:20:54,635 Speaker 5: it is twenty one days until spring training, and since 304 00:20:54,715 --> 00:20:56,955 Speaker 5: both the local teams are unlikely to have to worry 305 00:20:56,995 --> 00:21:00,075 Speaker 5: about being in the pennant races, why shouldn't the lead 306 00:21:00,235 --> 00:21:02,795 Speaker 5: stories about the New York Yankees and New York Mets 307 00:21:02,875 --> 00:21:07,795 Speaker 5: be about their uniforms. The uniform centric website uni watch 308 00:21:08,315 --> 00:21:11,355 Speaker 5: reports that the Yankees will make their first serious change 309 00:21:11,435 --> 00:21:14,395 Speaker 5: to one of their uniforms since nineteen seventy three. Uni 310 00:21:14,475 --> 00:21:17,475 Speaker 5: watch reports the Yankees will be taking off the white 311 00:21:17,555 --> 00:21:20,915 Speaker 5: outlining and white sleeve trim. That's the little dark blue, 312 00:21:21,115 --> 00:21:24,515 Speaker 5: white blue, dark blue ring at the end of the sleeves. 313 00:21:24,795 --> 00:21:27,635 Speaker 5: They'll take that off their road uniforms, which will just 314 00:21:27,755 --> 00:21:30,915 Speaker 5: basically be gray with the word New York on them. 315 00:21:31,475 --> 00:21:33,915 Speaker 5: Those unis will now look like the ones the Yankees 316 00:21:33,915 --> 00:21:38,195 Speaker 5: wore from the teens until nineteen seventy three. By the way, 317 00:21:38,275 --> 00:21:40,795 Speaker 5: in the winter of nineteen seventy five, Yankees owner George 318 00:21:40,835 --> 00:21:45,035 Speaker 5: Steinbrenner decided he really wanted to change their road uniforms 319 00:21:45,515 --> 00:21:50,715 Speaker 5: from gray to dark blue with white pinstripes, and somebody 320 00:21:50,875 --> 00:21:53,075 Speaker 5: managed to talk him out of it because the Yankees 321 00:21:53,075 --> 00:21:56,155 Speaker 5: were not a nineteen thirties movie. As to the New 322 00:21:56,235 --> 00:21:58,995 Speaker 5: York Mets, Uni Watch says they have scheduled April twenty 323 00:21:59,075 --> 00:22:03,395 Speaker 5: sixth for the debut of their City Connect uniforms. If 324 00:22:03,435 --> 00:22:07,035 Speaker 5: you're unfamiliar of the worst uniforms you could put baseball 325 00:22:07,115 --> 00:22:11,875 Speaker 5: players in, then screw up the colors, then drop some 326 00:22:12,075 --> 00:22:14,955 Speaker 5: acid and redesign them so they look even worse, and 327 00:22:15,075 --> 00:22:19,115 Speaker 5: then you have your City Connect uniforms. The Red Sox 328 00:22:19,155 --> 00:22:22,075 Speaker 5: City Connect uniforms look like the Boston phone Book. The 329 00:22:22,155 --> 00:22:25,035 Speaker 5: White Sox City Connect uniforms have the same exact lettering 330 00:22:25,235 --> 00:22:29,555 Speaker 5: as a vodka advertisement. The Chicago Cubs City Connect uniforms 331 00:22:29,635 --> 00:22:33,515 Speaker 5: are in fact duplicates of uniforms the Chicago White Sox 332 00:22:33,635 --> 00:22:36,635 Speaker 5: used to wear. The padres all look like two can 333 00:22:36,915 --> 00:22:40,195 Speaker 5: sam The Colorado Rockies look like somebody spilled paint on 334 00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:44,275 Speaker 5: the shoulders of some otherwise okay green uniforms. The Arizona 335 00:22:44,315 --> 00:22:50,275 Speaker 5: Diamondbacks look great, largely because the Arizona Diamondbacks regular uniforms 336 00:22:50,475 --> 00:22:54,395 Speaker 5: look like crap. Nobody knows what the Mets City Connect 337 00:22:54,475 --> 00:22:56,795 Speaker 5: uniforms are going to look like in April. But if 338 00:22:56,835 --> 00:22:59,675 Speaker 5: you want to place a bet, just bet on they'll 339 00:23:00,115 --> 00:23:07,435 Speaker 5: suck postscripts to the news, some. 340 00:23:07,555 --> 00:23:13,835 Speaker 1: Headlines, some updates, some snarks, some format changes, some predictions, dateline, Hollywood, 341 00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:20,435 Speaker 1: the OSCARS, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, 342 00:23:20,595 --> 00:23:25,395 Speaker 1: and Jim and Lunch and whatever. The OSCARS committee has 343 00:23:25,475 --> 00:23:28,515 Speaker 1: done it again. How do they do this? How do 344 00:23:28,635 --> 00:23:32,435 Speaker 1: they always do this? Now? Look, Barbie is not my 345 00:23:32,795 --> 00:23:36,675 Speaker 1: kind of film, so what doesn't have to be? Apparently 346 00:23:36,755 --> 00:23:40,195 Speaker 1: they made it good. And if you nominate it for 347 00:23:40,635 --> 00:23:43,795 Speaker 1: good enough to be Best Picture, and you nominate one 348 00:23:43,835 --> 00:23:47,235 Speaker 1: of its actors as Best Supporting Actress, and you nominate 349 00:23:47,515 --> 00:23:51,915 Speaker 1: Ken as Best Supporting Actor, how in the hell do 350 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:56,795 Speaker 1: you not nominate Barbie herself as Best Actress? Margo Robbie 351 00:23:56,835 --> 00:24:00,435 Speaker 1: got snubbed, and the director Greta Gerwig also snubbed, not 352 00:24:00,715 --> 00:24:04,435 Speaker 1: nominated sounds a little misogynistic to me. Of course, the 353 00:24:04,715 --> 00:24:07,635 Speaker 1: Uskers have always done this. The runaway winner of the 354 00:24:07,755 --> 00:24:11,595 Speaker 1: Oscars for nineteen forty one was the movie How Green 355 00:24:11,915 --> 00:24:16,275 Speaker 1: Was My Valley For Best Supporting Actor. Donald Crisp in 356 00:24:16,515 --> 00:24:19,755 Speaker 1: How Green Was My Valley beat out Sidney green Street 357 00:24:20,155 --> 00:24:23,995 Speaker 1: in The Maltese Falcon. For Best Director. John Ford of 358 00:24:24,115 --> 00:24:27,835 Speaker 1: How Green Was My Valley beat out Orson Wells for 359 00:24:27,955 --> 00:24:32,435 Speaker 1: a little flim he called Citizen Kane for Best Art 360 00:24:32,515 --> 00:24:35,835 Speaker 1: Direction and Best Cinematography. How Green Was My Valley also 361 00:24:35,915 --> 00:24:38,715 Speaker 1: beat out Citizen Kane for Best Film. How Green Was 362 00:24:38,795 --> 00:24:41,715 Speaker 1: My Valley beat out Citizen Kane and The Maltese Falcon 363 00:24:41,995 --> 00:24:46,115 Speaker 1: and Hitchcock's Suspicion, and even Here Comes Mister Jordan, which 364 00:24:46,155 --> 00:24:49,515 Speaker 1: is just a charming little film. Just a quick quiz, 365 00:24:49,675 --> 00:24:54,835 Speaker 1: don't google this, Just tell me who besides Donald Crisp 366 00:24:55,915 --> 00:25:01,395 Speaker 1: was in How Green Was My Valley? Or what was 367 00:25:01,595 --> 00:25:06,275 Speaker 1: My Picture about? How Green Was My Valley? What was 368 00:25:06,395 --> 00:25:12,835 Speaker 1: I about? Or was I in color? Citizen Kane, The 369 00:25:12,955 --> 00:25:16,795 Speaker 1: Maltese Falcon and Suspicion got a total of twenty two 370 00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:22,315 Speaker 1: nominations for nineteen forty one and a total of three 371 00:25:22,435 --> 00:25:26,275 Speaker 1: Oscars and ever since, people who actually know Hollywood have 372 00:25:26,395 --> 00:25:30,915 Speaker 1: viewed them, the Oscars and the Oscars nominations and the 373 00:25:30,995 --> 00:25:36,675 Speaker 1: Oscars winners as the well, the Toronto maple Leafs of awards. 374 00:25:37,195 --> 00:25:40,555 Speaker 1: Whatever the decade, whatever the style, you can count on 375 00:25:40,595 --> 00:25:43,475 Speaker 1: the Oscars and the Maple Leafs to find a way 376 00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:47,155 Speaker 1: to screw it up. One might think that the annual 377 00:25:47,275 --> 00:25:49,995 Speaker 1: Oscars screw up is designed just for the publicity. I mean, 378 00:25:50,035 --> 00:25:52,355 Speaker 1: you're trying to drive a TV audience to watch the 379 00:25:52,435 --> 00:25:56,275 Speaker 1: awards show, and drive a movie audience to watch the movies, 380 00:25:56,715 --> 00:25:59,315 Speaker 1: and a streaming or DVD audience to watch the movies 381 00:25:59,355 --> 00:26:04,515 Speaker 1: at home. Publicity about controversy. It's as useful as publicity 382 00:26:04,515 --> 00:26:09,795 Speaker 1: of about serenity. Maybe that also explains the Toronto maple leiefs. 383 00:26:10,435 --> 00:26:14,115 Speaker 1: I never thought of that before. By the way, the 384 00:26:14,155 --> 00:26:17,155 Speaker 1: answer to my little challenge, how green was my Valley? 385 00:26:17,755 --> 00:26:22,675 Speaker 1: Was about welshman. It was about Welsh miners, the Morgan family. 386 00:26:23,435 --> 00:26:28,595 Speaker 1: It starred Walter Pidgeon, Maureen O'Hara and Roddy McDowell. And 387 00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:32,235 Speaker 1: I swear, until I looked it up, I had always 388 00:26:32,275 --> 00:26:36,075 Speaker 1: assumed I mean, since I was a teenager, I just 389 00:26:36,235 --> 00:26:39,555 Speaker 1: assumed how Green was My Valley? Was that John Wayne 390 00:26:39,755 --> 00:26:43,315 Speaker 1: film about the boxer who goes home to Ireland? But no, 391 00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:48,035 Speaker 1: apparently that's the quiet Man. How Green was My Valley? 392 00:26:48,155 --> 00:26:53,195 Speaker 1: Is about Welshman And to answer the rhetorical question in 393 00:26:53,355 --> 00:26:58,635 Speaker 1: the title, how green was My Valley? Not very green? 394 00:26:59,435 --> 00:27:04,195 Speaker 1: The film is in black and white dateline the Kremlin 395 00:27:07,355 --> 00:27:10,915 Speaker 1: I left this out yesterday anyway. The actual anniversary was Sunday, 396 00:27:10,995 --> 00:27:13,755 Speaker 1: but it's too good to let it go. Sunday was 397 00:27:13,835 --> 00:27:17,075 Speaker 1: the one hundredth anniversary of the day the Russian revolutionary 398 00:27:17,195 --> 00:27:23,155 Speaker 1: Vladimir Ilichiulianov Lenin died. It was also the one hundredth 399 00:27:23,155 --> 00:27:30,755 Speaker 1: anniversary of the day the British comedian Benny Hill was born. Wait, 400 00:27:30,875 --> 00:27:33,795 Speaker 1: there's more. This is too good to check. I don't 401 00:27:33,835 --> 00:27:37,435 Speaker 1: want to find out this is not true. Lenin, it 402 00:27:37,555 --> 00:27:40,675 Speaker 1: is said, died on January twenty first, nineteen twenty four, 403 00:27:41,395 --> 00:27:44,355 Speaker 1: at four to fifty pm Greenwich meantime. We know that 404 00:27:44,515 --> 00:27:48,635 Speaker 1: that's the literal announcement, four to fifty pm Greenwich meantime. 405 00:27:49,915 --> 00:27:52,835 Speaker 1: And Benny Hill was supposedly born on January twenty first, 406 00:27:52,915 --> 00:27:57,315 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty fourth, same day, at seven fifty pm Greenwich meantime, 407 00:27:58,755 --> 00:28:24,395 Speaker 1: which explains either Russia or British comedy or both. Thank you, 408 00:28:24,595 --> 00:28:31,715 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust, Dateline, New Jersey. The best radio newscaster of 409 00:28:31,795 --> 00:28:35,995 Speaker 1: all time has died. Charles Osgood passed away at his 410 00:28:36,115 --> 00:28:40,075 Speaker 1: home after a lengthy battle with dementia yesterday after fifteen 411 00:28:40,155 --> 00:28:42,875 Speaker 1: years in radio and TV, most of them in Baltimore. 412 00:28:43,675 --> 00:28:47,475 Speaker 1: He signed on WCBS Radio in New York, the first 413 00:28:47,515 --> 00:28:50,875 Speaker 1: of the legendary CBS all news radio stations, in nineteen 414 00:28:50,915 --> 00:28:55,435 Speaker 1: sixty seven. Osgood was quickly promoted to primary morning anchor 415 00:28:55,555 --> 00:28:58,275 Speaker 1: on the CBS Radio network. He did up to six 416 00:28:58,395 --> 00:29:02,755 Speaker 1: newscasts Today, then to CBS's morning television news, and finally, 417 00:29:02,795 --> 00:29:05,315 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four, the job for which he will 418 00:29:05,355 --> 00:29:08,355 Speaker 1: be remembered, the anchor and the centerpiece of the CBS 419 00:29:08,475 --> 00:29:12,075 Speaker 1: news program Sunday Morning. He retired from it and from 420 00:29:12,115 --> 00:29:16,315 Speaker 1: his continuing radio assignment, The Osgood File, in twenty sixteen. 421 00:29:17,155 --> 00:29:21,355 Speaker 1: And none of this captures what he did. The TV 422 00:29:21,555 --> 00:29:27,955 Speaker 1: was great. He was at perfect pitch nearly all the time, pleasant, authoritative, knowledgeable, serious, 423 00:29:28,235 --> 00:29:35,435 Speaker 1: occasionally silly. But nobody wrote better for radio. Ever, nobody 424 00:29:36,355 --> 00:29:42,315 Speaker 1: his mantra short words, short sentences short paragraphs. In nineteen 425 00:29:42,355 --> 00:29:46,275 Speaker 1: eighty one, I happened to be listening to WCBS in 426 00:29:46,315 --> 00:29:50,835 Speaker 1: New York, preparing for my workday in radio, and Charles 427 00:29:50,915 --> 00:29:53,755 Speaker 1: Osgood devoted an addition of the Osgood File to the 428 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:56,715 Speaker 1: story of a man who was drowning in a river 429 00:29:56,915 --> 00:30:00,995 Speaker 1: in Idaho, who was saved because a worker driving a 430 00:30:01,155 --> 00:30:04,635 Speaker 1: one man train over a trestle over that river saw him, 431 00:30:05,275 --> 00:30:07,875 Speaker 1: then saw a work train coming on in the opposite 432 00:30:07,915 --> 00:30:10,555 Speaker 1: direction on the other track, scribbled a note about the 433 00:30:10,675 --> 00:30:13,235 Speaker 1: drowning man, rolled it up into the ball, and threw 434 00:30:13,315 --> 00:30:17,755 Speaker 1: it into the window of the passing train engine. The 435 00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:20,715 Speaker 1: engineer read the note, stopped the train at the trestle, 436 00:30:20,795 --> 00:30:25,435 Speaker 1: and they saved the drowning man. It is an extraordinary story. 437 00:30:26,275 --> 00:30:29,955 Speaker 1: I do not do it justice, and I certainly do 438 00:30:30,075 --> 00:30:34,075 Speaker 1: not do justice. How Charles Osgood told that story. My 439 00:30:34,515 --> 00:30:39,395 Speaker 1: heart only stopped racing about five minutes after he signed off. 440 00:30:40,555 --> 00:30:43,195 Speaker 1: The only time in my life I have ever written 441 00:30:43,235 --> 00:30:46,355 Speaker 1: to anybody in this business asking for a copy of 442 00:30:46,515 --> 00:30:51,995 Speaker 1: their script, it was to Charles Osgood for that Idaho story. 443 00:30:53,195 --> 00:30:57,995 Speaker 1: I still have the copy somewhere. Osgood did at least 444 00:30:58,035 --> 00:31:00,515 Speaker 1: one book of his scripts called the osgood Files. If 445 00:31:00,555 --> 00:31:03,555 Speaker 1: you want to learn how to write for stuff that's 446 00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:08,315 Speaker 1: going to be read aloud, get it. Fifteen years ago, 447 00:31:08,395 --> 00:31:10,475 Speaker 1: maybe I bumped into him at a corner deli in 448 00:31:10,555 --> 00:31:13,395 Speaker 1: my neighborhood. I introduced myself. I told him about that 449 00:31:13,515 --> 00:31:17,675 Speaker 1: story nineteen eighty one. He said, goodness. I got to 450 00:31:17,715 --> 00:31:20,435 Speaker 1: tell him. That's how good he was at what he did. 451 00:31:21,275 --> 00:31:24,115 Speaker 1: He then said goodbye, as he used to on all 452 00:31:24,115 --> 00:31:29,195 Speaker 1: of his television appearances. See you on the radio. Charles 453 00:31:29,275 --> 00:31:54,795 Speaker 1: Osgoode was ninety one years old, still ahead on countdown. 454 00:31:54,875 --> 00:31:57,835 Speaker 1: Since I am about to mention somebody from MSNBC as 455 00:31:57,875 --> 00:32:02,115 Speaker 1: the worst person in the world spoiler alert, why not 456 00:32:02,315 --> 00:32:04,395 Speaker 1: also tell you about the day I ran into somebody 457 00:32:04,435 --> 00:32:07,395 Speaker 1: else from there who could win that honor? The guy who, 458 00:32:07,595 --> 00:32:10,435 Speaker 1: while my father was dying, filled in for me on 459 00:32:10,515 --> 00:32:12,235 Speaker 1: the network, and while he did so, he tried to 460 00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:14,595 Speaker 1: get me fired. He tried to take over my show, 461 00:32:14,635 --> 00:32:16,875 Speaker 1: and when that failed, he tried to rustle all my 462 00:32:16,995 --> 00:32:19,235 Speaker 1: producers to go work for him on his own show. 463 00:32:19,795 --> 00:32:23,035 Speaker 1: Who could it be? Coming up? In Things I promised 464 00:32:23,115 --> 00:32:25,595 Speaker 1: not to tell? First time For the daily roundup of 465 00:32:25,635 --> 00:32:28,595 Speaker 1: the Miscreants, Morons and Dunning Kruger effect specimens, who constitute 466 00:32:28,595 --> 00:32:31,755 Speaker 1: two days worst persons in the world except for that 467 00:32:31,875 --> 00:32:37,435 Speaker 1: one guy Lebrons worse Mayor Eric Adams of New York City. 468 00:32:38,435 --> 00:32:39,555 Speaker 1: The tone deafness. 469 00:32:39,675 --> 00:32:40,275 Speaker 3: It hurts. 470 00:32:41,515 --> 00:32:45,075 Speaker 1: This is a tiny thing, but so is Eric Adams. 471 00:32:46,115 --> 00:32:48,835 Speaker 1: New York's City Council scheduled a press conference in the 472 00:32:48,955 --> 00:32:51,395 Speaker 1: rotunda of City Hall in New York yesterday. The mayor 473 00:32:51,475 --> 00:32:54,475 Speaker 1: did not authorize it. The city council was going to 474 00:32:54,635 --> 00:32:59,515 Speaker 1: do something that went against Mayor Adams's ego. So his 475 00:32:59,635 --> 00:33:01,835 Speaker 1: staffers went down to where they were setting up the 476 00:33:01,875 --> 00:33:05,155 Speaker 1: press conference and they took away all the city Hall 477 00:33:05,395 --> 00:33:07,755 Speaker 1: chairs that were being placed for the press and the 478 00:33:07,795 --> 00:33:10,475 Speaker 1: council members, And of course they got themselves recorded on 479 00:33:10,675 --> 00:33:15,675 Speaker 1: video doing so, looking like petty, childish amateurs. And that's 480 00:33:15,755 --> 00:33:18,275 Speaker 1: probably unfair to the staffers because we all know that 481 00:33:18,395 --> 00:33:21,195 Speaker 1: the petty childish amateur in City Hall in New York 482 00:33:21,635 --> 00:33:26,315 Speaker 1: is the mayor. The runners up worser Chaia Rachick, the 483 00:33:26,395 --> 00:33:30,995 Speaker 1: libs of TikTok Witch, whereas Harvard's Alejandro Carrabaio calls her 484 00:33:31,235 --> 00:33:35,635 Speaker 1: terrorist Chaia Rachick and Oklahoma Superintendent of Schools Ryan Walters 485 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:40,795 Speaker 1: in August, Raychick targeted a Tulsa elementary school librarian because 486 00:33:41,755 --> 00:33:43,595 Speaker 1: because she's one of the worst persons in the world. 487 00:33:43,675 --> 00:33:46,515 Speaker 1: That's why she targeted the other woman. The school received 488 00:33:46,515 --> 00:33:49,635 Speaker 1: at least half a dozen bomb threats because Raychick is 489 00:33:49,675 --> 00:33:53,195 Speaker 1: supported by the kind of coward slug lunatics who do 490 00:33:53,395 --> 00:33:56,915 Speaker 1: that stuff now writing, no one has done more to 491 00:33:56,995 --> 00:34:00,155 Speaker 1: expose what the radical left is all about, porn in schools, 492 00:34:00,235 --> 00:34:05,555 Speaker 1: woken doctrination. This fascist school superintendent Walter As named her 493 00:34:05,955 --> 00:34:11,275 Speaker 1: to the Oklahoma State School Library Media Advisory Committee. I 494 00:34:11,395 --> 00:34:13,755 Speaker 1: say this every time, and I mean it because the 495 00:34:13,835 --> 00:34:16,875 Speaker 1: fascists are not going to stop voluntarily, and you're not 496 00:34:16,955 --> 00:34:18,835 Speaker 1: going to vote them out, and you're not going to 497 00:34:18,875 --> 00:34:21,555 Speaker 1: get the Supreme Court to stop them, not in Oklahoma, 498 00:34:21,635 --> 00:34:24,235 Speaker 1: you're not the Only way to beat them is to 499 00:34:24,475 --> 00:34:27,555 Speaker 1: break them. And the only way to break them is 500 00:34:27,675 --> 00:34:31,755 Speaker 1: for every employer outside of Oklahoma and every college and 501 00:34:31,915 --> 00:34:35,635 Speaker 1: junior college and grad school outside of Oklahoma to state 502 00:34:35,715 --> 00:34:40,035 Speaker 1: simply that an Oklahoma high school diploma is not sufficient 503 00:34:40,155 --> 00:34:43,155 Speaker 1: to get a job or to get admission to a 504 00:34:43,235 --> 00:34:46,675 Speaker 1: college outside Oklahoma. In other words, the states that are 505 00:34:46,715 --> 00:34:50,835 Speaker 1: trying to turn public education into fascism factories, or to 506 00:34:50,955 --> 00:34:58,475 Speaker 1: destroy it outright. They have to be quarantined, blockaded. But 507 00:34:58,635 --> 00:35:03,475 Speaker 1: our winner the worst, worse even than that, Joey Scars, 508 00:35:04,915 --> 00:35:10,235 Speaker 1: MSNBC's hot and cold double faucet of running fraud. It's fake, 509 00:35:10,435 --> 00:35:13,755 Speaker 1: non conservative. The man who mainstreamed Trump on the network, 510 00:35:13,955 --> 00:35:16,035 Speaker 1: the man who wanted to be Trump's vice president, the 511 00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:18,715 Speaker 1: man who now pretends like that never happened. The man 512 00:35:18,755 --> 00:35:21,395 Speaker 1: who broke up his co host's marriage, the man who 513 00:35:21,435 --> 00:35:26,315 Speaker 1: wants carried water for Newt Gingrich, the single biggest scumbag 514 00:35:26,555 --> 00:35:32,995 Speaker 1: I have ever worked with, Joe fing Scarborough. Remember when 515 00:35:33,195 --> 00:35:38,595 Speaker 1: MSNBC fired the host of its top weekend show, No No, No, 516 00:35:38,915 --> 00:35:44,675 Speaker 1: not Meydi Hassan. The one before that, Tiffany Cross. She's 517 00:35:44,755 --> 00:35:48,795 Speaker 1: finally gone public with what happened. Tiffany Cross said she 518 00:35:48,915 --> 00:35:52,555 Speaker 1: had an on air argument over race with oh who 519 00:35:52,635 --> 00:35:57,035 Speaker 1: knows Joe Scarborough a racist? Or, as she calls him 520 00:35:57,035 --> 00:36:01,395 Speaker 1: on her new podcast, Joe Scarborough MSNBC's favorite white boy. 521 00:36:03,755 --> 00:36:08,355 Speaker 1: I guess he's favorite. There's nobody whiter. And after that, Scarborough, 522 00:36:08,435 --> 00:36:10,795 Speaker 1: she says, did everything he could to undermine her and 523 00:36:10,955 --> 00:36:12,755 Speaker 1: keep her from getting her own show and then get 524 00:36:12,835 --> 00:36:13,955 Speaker 1: her own show canceled. 525 00:36:14,475 --> 00:36:14,755 Speaker 3: Quote. 526 00:36:14,795 --> 00:36:17,475 Speaker 1: There's an unspoken rule that you're not supposed to disagree 527 00:36:17,555 --> 00:36:20,595 Speaker 1: with Joe, and I didn't get the memo. You may 528 00:36:20,675 --> 00:36:23,315 Speaker 1: remember once at a convention, I once said after Joe, 529 00:36:23,955 --> 00:36:26,675 Speaker 1: throughout standard Republican talking points, that he should go get 530 00:36:26,715 --> 00:36:29,595 Speaker 1: a shovel. He was so shocked that I actually said 531 00:36:29,635 --> 00:36:31,955 Speaker 1: that about him on the air. It was an accident. 532 00:36:32,035 --> 00:36:34,515 Speaker 1: My mic wasn't supposed to be open. I was glad 533 00:36:34,595 --> 00:36:37,315 Speaker 1: it was open. I apologized to him for saying it 534 00:36:37,555 --> 00:36:41,795 Speaker 1: on the air. It was true. Joe Scarborough shovels shit 535 00:36:42,075 --> 00:36:45,955 Speaker 1: every day anyway. I know the feeling that miss Cross 536 00:36:46,075 --> 00:36:49,835 Speaker 1: is having here. Scarborough sabotaged my show when he could, 537 00:36:50,355 --> 00:36:54,675 Speaker 1: and Madows and then Lawrence O'Donnell's, and he basically sabotaged 538 00:36:54,715 --> 00:36:58,235 Speaker 1: every show he did not control. He had something never 539 00:36:58,275 --> 00:37:01,675 Speaker 1: found out what on the previous MSNBC president, Phil Griffin, 540 00:37:01,715 --> 00:37:04,195 Speaker 1: who got fired two years ago, and he used it 541 00:37:04,235 --> 00:37:07,755 Speaker 1: against Griffin. He got some of my guests canceled, he 542 00:37:07,835 --> 00:37:10,035 Speaker 1: got some of them banished from the network. He had 543 00:37:10,075 --> 00:37:13,075 Speaker 1: his staffers trying to find out our upcoming guest bookings 544 00:37:13,115 --> 00:37:16,235 Speaker 1: on countdown so he could steal the guests, or screw 545 00:37:16,355 --> 00:37:18,395 Speaker 1: up the scheduling, or threaten them that if they went 546 00:37:18,435 --> 00:37:21,235 Speaker 1: on my show, they couldn't go on his show. After 547 00:37:21,315 --> 00:37:24,235 Speaker 1: he attacked me once on Twitter, a violation of MSNBC 548 00:37:24,395 --> 00:37:27,515 Speaker 1: rules that was supposed to result in an automatic suspension, 549 00:37:27,795 --> 00:37:31,195 Speaker 1: Scarborough threatened the president, Phil Griffin, and me and my 550 00:37:31,355 --> 00:37:35,155 Speaker 1: agent and my producer that if he was suspended, as 551 00:37:35,235 --> 00:37:38,315 Speaker 1: the rule said, he would tell everybody I got him 552 00:37:38,395 --> 00:37:42,315 Speaker 1: suspended because he was a conservative and I secretly ran 553 00:37:42,435 --> 00:37:46,835 Speaker 1: the place. Tiffany Cross also said that her other fatal 554 00:37:46,875 --> 00:37:50,155 Speaker 1: mistake was not criticizing Trump enough. That may sound like 555 00:37:50,195 --> 00:37:52,755 Speaker 1: a paradox, but she wanted to talk a host of 556 00:37:52,835 --> 00:37:55,595 Speaker 1: issues not related directly to the presidential race or the 557 00:37:55,675 --> 00:37:58,715 Speaker 1: Trump crises, and MSNBC told her to cut it out 558 00:37:58,795 --> 00:38:01,595 Speaker 1: and just do what they said, which is what they 559 00:38:01,675 --> 00:38:03,555 Speaker 1: did to me in nineteen ninety eight when I wanted 560 00:38:03,595 --> 00:38:07,075 Speaker 1: to talk about something other than Clinton Lewinsky. Cross also 561 00:38:07,155 --> 00:38:09,555 Speaker 1: said after Tucker Carlson accused her of trying to start 562 00:38:09,595 --> 00:38:13,995 Speaker 1: a genocide against American white people, No, we don't want 563 00:38:14,035 --> 00:38:17,675 Speaker 1: to kill all white people, Tucker, just one's named Tucker. 564 00:38:17,835 --> 00:38:20,995 Speaker 1: The network didn't even issue a statement in support of her, 565 00:38:21,755 --> 00:38:25,115 Speaker 1: and after it fired her, it planted as many bad 566 00:38:25,195 --> 00:38:29,275 Speaker 1: stories about her as it could. That is the NBC 567 00:38:29,435 --> 00:38:34,315 Speaker 1: Playbook and the Scarborough Playbook, and Scarborough has long run 568 00:38:34,475 --> 00:38:38,395 Speaker 1: roughshot over official management there, which is why MSNBC has 569 00:38:38,475 --> 00:38:42,235 Speaker 1: sunk into mediocrity in a time when events should have 570 00:38:42,315 --> 00:38:46,235 Speaker 1: given it a monopoly. It has done so because of 571 00:38:46,355 --> 00:38:52,555 Speaker 1: three words, Joe Scarborough's ego. So thank you Tiffany Cross 572 00:38:52,595 --> 00:38:58,235 Speaker 1: for reminding us Joe Scarborough two days and every days 573 00:38:59,235 --> 00:39:06,355 Speaker 1: worst first in and let he got to get up 574 00:39:06,355 --> 00:39:21,955 Speaker 1: at two o'clock or morning now to the number one 575 00:39:21,995 --> 00:39:24,435 Speaker 1: story on the countdown on my favorite topic, me and 576 00:39:24,555 --> 00:39:27,835 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell. Early on the afternoon 577 00:39:27,915 --> 00:39:32,315 Speaker 1: of Monday May twenty third, twenty sixteen, I bounced out 578 00:39:32,355 --> 00:39:34,795 Speaker 1: of my New York City apartment building, began to walk 579 00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:39,235 Speaker 1: past the tourist trap brunch spot in the lobby, and 580 00:39:39,475 --> 00:39:43,715 Speaker 1: froze there at one of the cramped outdoor tables staring 581 00:39:43,875 --> 00:39:47,115 Speaker 1: up at me in blank surprise that must have matched 582 00:39:47,155 --> 00:39:50,355 Speaker 1: my own staring down at him in blank surprise. Was 583 00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:55,635 Speaker 1: Laurence O'Donnell. I decided to go silly, hey, get out 584 00:39:55,635 --> 00:39:59,475 Speaker 1: of my house. He laughed. I laughed. It didn't seem forced. 585 00:40:00,115 --> 00:40:03,675 Speaker 1: He introduced me to his companion, his daughter. This, my 586 00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:07,635 Speaker 1: dear is Keith ol Rman. Keith started us all at MSNBC, 587 00:40:07,795 --> 00:40:10,995 Speaker 1: and then he left. And here Lawrence gave one of 588 00:40:11,035 --> 00:40:17,835 Speaker 1: his long pauses, and we crashed it. I wanted to 589 00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:20,635 Speaker 1: be generous, I started to politely contradict him, and I 590 00:40:20,795 --> 00:40:26,915 Speaker 1: just couldn't do it. Yeah, pretty much anyway, About thirty 591 00:40:26,995 --> 00:40:30,275 Speaker 1: seconds of courteous nothingness followed, and I wish the O'Donnell's well, 592 00:40:30,315 --> 00:40:34,395 Speaker 1: and then I left. It was the most pleasant experience 593 00:40:34,515 --> 00:40:37,155 Speaker 1: I ever had with Lawrence O'Donnell. In fact, it might 594 00:40:37,195 --> 00:40:39,595 Speaker 1: have been the only pleasant experience I ever had with 595 00:40:39,675 --> 00:40:45,395 Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell. After I finally convinced and bullied and blackmailed 596 00:40:45,515 --> 00:40:49,075 Speaker 1: MSNBC management into letting Rachel Meadow become the regular guest 597 00:40:49,115 --> 00:40:51,795 Speaker 1: host for my show, and she aced it and then 598 00:40:51,915 --> 00:40:55,435 Speaker 1: rightly got her own show, and she aced that and 599 00:40:55,595 --> 00:40:59,355 Speaker 1: became a star. I went looking for a new guest host. 600 00:40:59,435 --> 00:41:01,675 Speaker 1: My first idea was a frequent guest we had named 601 00:41:01,755 --> 00:41:05,795 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes. I didn't get far had its own idea, 602 00:41:05,835 --> 00:41:09,515 Speaker 1: and my input was not required they wanted former Vermont 603 00:41:09,595 --> 00:41:13,915 Speaker 1: governor and Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean. And Howard is 604 00:41:13,955 --> 00:41:17,315 Speaker 1: a really smart guy and great on TV. But Howard 605 00:41:17,395 --> 00:41:20,115 Speaker 1: had a bit of a teleprompter problem. One of my 606 00:41:20,235 --> 00:41:25,915 Speaker 1: producers swears that Howard once read good Evening. I'm Howard Dean, 607 00:41:26,035 --> 00:41:30,675 Speaker 1: former governor of Vermont. This is countdown. I do know. 608 00:41:30,915 --> 00:41:32,915 Speaker 1: Whatever he did on the air, it was bad enough 609 00:41:32,955 --> 00:41:35,235 Speaker 1: that one week when I was off and at the 610 00:41:35,235 --> 00:41:37,515 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York, and a 611 00:41:37,555 --> 00:41:40,195 Speaker 1: baseball news story broke and he was filling in for me. 612 00:41:40,555 --> 00:41:43,195 Speaker 1: My producers called me there and asked me to come 613 00:41:43,275 --> 00:41:46,435 Speaker 1: on from the streets of Cooperstown and be a guest 614 00:41:46,515 --> 00:41:52,155 Speaker 1: on my own show, just to help Howard Dean out. Anyway, 615 00:41:52,955 --> 00:41:55,115 Speaker 1: Their next idea was a guy who had been kicking 616 00:41:55,155 --> 00:41:59,515 Speaker 1: around MSNBC since its founding in nineteen ninety six. Lawrence 617 00:41:59,595 --> 00:42:05,435 Speaker 1: O'Donnell was one of the original MSNBC Friends, The MSNBC 618 00:42:05,795 --> 00:42:10,395 Speaker 1: Friends political pundits who sat on clear stools at a 619 00:42:10,475 --> 00:42:13,275 Speaker 1: clear table or in a set designed to look like 620 00:42:13,355 --> 00:42:16,875 Speaker 1: a booth at a coffee shop. No, I'm not making 621 00:42:16,915 --> 00:42:22,555 Speaker 1: this up. Among the friends were and Colter and Laura Ingram, 622 00:42:22,875 --> 00:42:26,035 Speaker 1: if you can believe it, once or twice an hour, 623 00:42:26,475 --> 00:42:30,155 Speaker 1: the rather CNN like all news coverage on MSNBC in 624 00:42:30,235 --> 00:42:32,955 Speaker 1: its first couple of years, would pause and three or 625 00:42:33,075 --> 00:42:37,995 Speaker 1: more of these friends would appear, chew over the MSNBC 626 00:42:38,155 --> 00:42:44,795 Speaker 1: headlines and then disappear. Lawrence O'Donnell was one of the friends. 627 00:42:45,835 --> 00:42:50,035 Speaker 1: It was as bad as it sounds. Then Lawrence o'donald 628 00:42:50,075 --> 00:42:53,275 Speaker 1: pretty much disappeared. You would see him on MSNBC as 629 00:42:53,275 --> 00:42:55,755 Speaker 1: a guest every once in a while, but mostly he 630 00:42:55,875 --> 00:42:59,315 Speaker 1: pursued his acting and producing career. He played President Bartlett's 631 00:42:59,355 --> 00:43:02,515 Speaker 1: father on the West Wing, the one who beat him. 632 00:43:02,635 --> 00:43:06,715 Speaker 1: Throughout college, Lawrence was very convince and then around two 633 00:43:06,755 --> 00:43:09,275 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, we started getting pressure to bring him 634 00:43:09,315 --> 00:43:12,075 Speaker 1: in as a guest on Countdown, like once a week 635 00:43:12,195 --> 00:43:14,595 Speaker 1: or twice a week. I was not sure what that 636 00:43:14,795 --> 00:43:16,915 Speaker 1: was all about, but he had been a Senate staffer 637 00:43:17,275 --> 00:43:19,995 Speaker 1: and he knew the healthcare debate and other wonky stuff 638 00:43:20,035 --> 00:43:23,355 Speaker 1: pretty well, so I gave my assent for whatever that 639 00:43:23,515 --> 00:43:27,195 Speaker 1: was worth. Not long after that, Lawrence came into my office. 640 00:43:27,355 --> 00:43:29,915 Speaker 1: He really needed my support, he said, to get him 641 00:43:29,955 --> 00:43:32,835 Speaker 1: more involved in MSNBC. He knew I had gone to 642 00:43:32,915 --> 00:43:36,315 Speaker 1: bat for Rachel, and before her, I'd gone to bat 643 00:43:36,395 --> 00:43:39,075 Speaker 1: for Tom Brokaw, and for people like Chuck Todd and 644 00:43:39,155 --> 00:43:41,835 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes and others who are now getting steady incomes 645 00:43:41,875 --> 00:43:45,875 Speaker 1: from NBC. I don't remember his argument on his own behalf. 646 00:43:45,915 --> 00:43:48,115 Speaker 1: I do remember I didn't have much of a reason 647 00:43:48,195 --> 00:43:50,555 Speaker 1: to say no, and he wasn't asking me to do 648 00:43:50,675 --> 00:43:54,035 Speaker 1: a lot, so I said yes. The next thing I knew, 649 00:43:54,515 --> 00:43:57,235 Speaker 1: I was reading a memo announcing that Lawrence O'Donnell had 650 00:43:57,235 --> 00:44:00,235 Speaker 1: been appointed as the new full time guest host of Countdown. 651 00:44:01,875 --> 00:44:04,035 Speaker 1: This was in the winter of two thousand and nine, 652 00:44:04,955 --> 00:44:07,675 Speaker 1: when my late dad was fighting so valiantly to stay 653 00:44:07,675 --> 00:44:11,195 Speaker 1: alive after colon cancer and more importantly, a series of infections. 654 00:44:11,995 --> 00:44:15,475 Speaker 1: Dad had the immune system of an alien. The average 655 00:44:15,515 --> 00:44:17,955 Speaker 1: white cell count in a healthy adult is between four 656 00:44:18,035 --> 00:44:21,355 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven thousand. One night, Dad's was at thirty 657 00:44:21,555 --> 00:44:24,835 Speaker 1: three thousand, and the doctors told me to prepare to 658 00:44:24,995 --> 00:44:27,995 Speaker 1: make the call to let him go. They had one 659 00:44:28,155 --> 00:44:31,635 Speaker 1: antibiotic left to try on him. The next morning, Dad's 660 00:44:31,675 --> 00:44:34,395 Speaker 1: white cell count, which had been thirty three thousand, was 661 00:44:35,155 --> 00:44:41,595 Speaker 1: eight thousand. Onward he fought. Unfortunately, he was eighty years 662 00:44:41,635 --> 00:44:45,515 Speaker 1: old and he had not exercised since Harry Truman was president, 663 00:44:46,035 --> 00:44:49,515 Speaker 1: and eventually he ran out of Houdini tricks. I had 664 00:44:49,555 --> 00:44:52,075 Speaker 1: been visiting him twice a day for six months while 665 00:44:52,155 --> 00:44:55,435 Speaker 1: still doing Countdown and the NBC Sunday Night Football Show. 666 00:44:55,475 --> 00:44:58,795 Speaker 1: But now, as it hit late February of twenty ten, 667 00:44:59,355 --> 00:45:02,395 Speaker 1: his bright days became fewer and farther in between, and 668 00:45:02,515 --> 00:45:04,875 Speaker 1: the hope that was propelling me to keep being his 669 00:45:05,035 --> 00:45:08,755 Speaker 1: full time caregiver and Countdown's full time host both began 670 00:45:08,835 --> 00:45:11,875 Speaker 1: to fade. In the last two weeks of my dad's life, 671 00:45:11,915 --> 00:45:14,435 Speaker 1: as the doctors tried all the long shot things, I 672 00:45:14,595 --> 00:45:19,315 Speaker 1: asked MSNBC for a leave of absence. Finally the inevitability 673 00:45:19,395 --> 00:45:23,155 Speaker 1: became inarguable, and we let Dad go. On Saturday, March thirteenth, 674 00:45:23,195 --> 00:45:26,715 Speaker 1: twenty ten. My sister held his hand and I read 675 00:45:26,795 --> 00:45:29,115 Speaker 1: him his favorite Thurber story, and as soon as I 676 00:45:29,195 --> 00:45:33,075 Speaker 1: finished it, he exhaled deeply and peacefully, and he died. 677 00:45:34,155 --> 00:45:38,955 Speaker 1: I think I took another week off, maybe two, and 678 00:45:39,115 --> 00:45:42,395 Speaker 1: I vaguely recall emails from friends at Countdown that I 679 00:45:42,515 --> 00:45:45,595 Speaker 1: may have paid passing attention to but I really didn't. 680 00:45:46,635 --> 00:45:49,395 Speaker 1: Most of the staff, including people who came up from Washington, 681 00:45:50,035 --> 00:45:53,435 Speaker 1: like Howard Feynman or Gene Robinson of the Washington Post, 682 00:45:54,155 --> 00:45:57,835 Speaker 1: always friends to me. They attended my dad's memorial service. 683 00:45:58,475 --> 00:46:01,635 Speaker 1: I believe Lawrence o'donald, who was of course filling in 684 00:46:01,755 --> 00:46:03,795 Speaker 1: for me on Countdown, was there, too, but maybe not, 685 00:46:03,955 --> 00:46:07,595 Speaker 1: I do not remember. And then came the day when 686 00:46:07,635 --> 00:46:09,395 Speaker 1: I went back to the office full time and my 687 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:14,235 Speaker 1: assistant grabbed me both hands on my wrist. You did 688 00:46:14,315 --> 00:46:16,955 Speaker 1: not answer my emails, she said, with a fervency she 689 00:46:17,155 --> 00:46:21,075 Speaker 1: rarely exhibited. For God's sake, do not ever leave me 690 00:46:21,195 --> 00:46:25,435 Speaker 1: alone with Lawrence O'Donnell again, I snapped back to attention. 691 00:46:25,955 --> 00:46:30,755 Speaker 1: Had he, you know, bothered her? Not that way, she said, 692 00:46:30,955 --> 00:46:32,955 Speaker 1: But he's a son of a bitch. He treats me 693 00:46:32,995 --> 00:46:34,795 Speaker 1: and everybody who was in a producer here like dirt. 694 00:46:35,235 --> 00:46:37,395 Speaker 1: And since you didn't read my emails, I just have 695 00:46:37,515 --> 00:46:39,555 Speaker 1: to tell you this. He's trying to get you fired 696 00:46:39,875 --> 00:46:42,075 Speaker 1: so he can take over Countdown. And if you think 697 00:46:42,155 --> 00:46:44,555 Speaker 1: he's nuts, one of your senior producers is in on 698 00:46:44,675 --> 00:46:49,555 Speaker 1: it too with him. I have to admit, even now, 699 00:46:50,075 --> 00:46:52,395 Speaker 1: of all the things I went through at that very 700 00:46:52,755 --> 00:46:59,355 Speaker 1: very strange place MSNBC. Even now, this story still shocks me. 701 00:47:00,755 --> 00:47:03,515 Speaker 1: The senior producers of Countdown consisted of a guy who'd 702 00:47:03,555 --> 00:47:08,115 Speaker 1: been a producer who booked satellite transmissions for MSNBC until 703 00:47:08,235 --> 00:47:11,795 Speaker 1: I asked that he'd be promoted, and one was a 704 00:47:11,875 --> 00:47:14,315 Speaker 1: guest booker for the daytime shows until I asked that 705 00:47:14,435 --> 00:47:17,715 Speaker 1: she be promoted. Another was a line producer who was 706 00:47:17,755 --> 00:47:20,155 Speaker 1: well regarded only for his ability to time a show 707 00:47:20,475 --> 00:47:23,355 Speaker 1: until I asked for him to be promoted. And then 708 00:47:23,395 --> 00:47:24,915 Speaker 1: there was the old friend of mine who had been 709 00:47:24,955 --> 00:47:27,875 Speaker 1: blown out of ESPN in a sexual harassment porn link 710 00:47:27,955 --> 00:47:30,875 Speaker 1: email scandal and was headed back to college to start 711 00:47:30,915 --> 00:47:33,915 Speaker 1: his career all over again until I asked that he'd 712 00:47:33,955 --> 00:47:38,035 Speaker 1: be hired and then promoted. I did some digging and 713 00:47:38,075 --> 00:47:40,195 Speaker 1: I was going to confront O'Donnell about it when somebody 714 00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:42,715 Speaker 1: told me he had tweeted something negative about me and 715 00:47:42,875 --> 00:47:45,035 Speaker 1: about Countdown. So I got a hold of him and 716 00:47:45,115 --> 00:47:46,955 Speaker 1: I said, this did not seem to be in keeping 717 00:47:47,315 --> 00:47:50,995 Speaker 1: with MSNBC traditions and rules, you know, the ones about 718 00:47:51,075 --> 00:47:53,515 Speaker 1: not peeing inside the tent. And he said, what do 719 00:47:53,595 --> 00:47:57,475 Speaker 1: you know about MSNBC? Traditions. I've been here since nineteen 720 00:47:57,555 --> 00:48:02,315 Speaker 1: ninety six. I never left and came back. So I 721 00:48:02,435 --> 00:48:04,475 Speaker 1: went to my boss, the president of the network field, 722 00:48:04,995 --> 00:48:07,515 Speaker 1: the one who would not hire Rachel Maddow, And before 723 00:48:07,555 --> 00:48:09,075 Speaker 1: I could say they'd have to get rid of him, 724 00:48:09,115 --> 00:48:11,715 Speaker 1: Griffin said it was all academic. They were preparing the 725 00:48:11,795 --> 00:48:14,515 Speaker 1: press release as we spoke for Lawrence's new show at 726 00:48:14,555 --> 00:48:18,355 Speaker 1: ten o'clock called The Last Word, and oh, by the way, Keith, 727 00:48:18,435 --> 00:48:20,435 Speaker 1: two of your senior producers are going with him to 728 00:48:20,515 --> 00:48:25,275 Speaker 1: run his show. If this sounds vaguely familiar to you, 729 00:48:25,515 --> 00:48:28,995 Speaker 1: it is the plot of the pilot for the old 730 00:48:29,155 --> 00:48:33,755 Speaker 1: Aaron Sorkin HBO series Newsroom. I was still friendly with 731 00:48:33,875 --> 00:48:37,555 Speaker 1: Aaron then, so he actually asked. As I related this 732 00:48:37,715 --> 00:48:40,675 Speaker 1: to him in real time in emails and phone calls, 733 00:48:40,795 --> 00:48:42,915 Speaker 1: he asked if he could use it in the plot, 734 00:48:43,075 --> 00:48:45,995 Speaker 1: rather than just what he often did, which was to 735 00:48:46,115 --> 00:48:50,035 Speaker 1: use it without asking. The problem was none of this 736 00:48:50,195 --> 00:48:52,995 Speaker 1: made any sense in the real world, although it made 737 00:48:52,995 --> 00:48:55,875 Speaker 1: a pretty good pilot for Aaron Sorkin in going into 738 00:48:55,915 --> 00:48:59,235 Speaker 1: the ten PM slot, Lawrence O'Donnell would be replacing a 739 00:48:59,475 --> 00:49:03,155 Speaker 1: rerun of Countdown, and even if O'Donnell did much better 740 00:49:03,195 --> 00:49:05,995 Speaker 1: in the ratings, much much better. There was no way 741 00:49:06,715 --> 00:49:09,115 Speaker 1: it could ever make enough money to make the move 742 00:49:09,275 --> 00:49:15,515 Speaker 1: make sense. O'Donnell's new show would necessarily cost MSNBC between 743 00:49:15,555 --> 00:49:19,115 Speaker 1: ten and fifteen million dollars to produce every year. Didn't 744 00:49:19,115 --> 00:49:20,875 Speaker 1: have anything to do with him. That was the cost. 745 00:49:21,635 --> 00:49:26,395 Speaker 1: The Countdown rerun cost, not ten fifteen million dollars a year. 746 00:49:26,875 --> 00:49:29,355 Speaker 1: It count however much they paid the guy who pushed 747 00:49:29,395 --> 00:49:32,515 Speaker 1: the play button that fired up the videotape of the 748 00:49:32,595 --> 00:49:41,755 Speaker 1: Countdown replay amortized. Later that day, a sympathetic NBC executive 749 00:49:41,755 --> 00:49:44,195 Speaker 1: called me up and explained the move to me. First, 750 00:49:44,675 --> 00:49:47,675 Speaker 1: Griffin was convinced O'Donnell was about to leave us and 751 00:49:47,875 --> 00:49:51,715 Speaker 1: sign with CNN. I said, well, that's a good idea 752 00:49:51,835 --> 00:49:56,235 Speaker 1: for everybody involved except CNN. Turned out CNN had not 753 00:49:56,355 --> 00:49:58,635 Speaker 1: even talked to him, but Griffin did not know that. 754 00:49:59,435 --> 00:50:02,795 Speaker 1: More importantly, Comcast had already finalized its agreement to buy 755 00:50:02,995 --> 00:50:06,035 Speaker 1: NBC effective the following January, and as part of the deal, 756 00:50:06,475 --> 00:50:09,395 Speaker 1: they were entitled to review what all the executives in 757 00:50:09,475 --> 00:50:11,835 Speaker 1: the company had done, and they had already looked at 758 00:50:11,955 --> 00:50:15,355 Speaker 1: MSNBC President Phil Griffin and discovered he had never done 759 00:50:15,475 --> 00:50:20,115 Speaker 1: anything in panic. Griffin told colleagues he had to launch 760 00:50:20,195 --> 00:50:26,555 Speaker 1: a new show of his own immediately. This is the 761 00:50:26,635 --> 00:50:29,995 Speaker 1: series Aaron Sorkin should have made. As to the producers 762 00:50:29,995 --> 00:50:32,755 Speaker 1: who left my show to go with O'Donnell while my 763 00:50:32,955 --> 00:50:35,795 Speaker 1: father was dying, one of them told me a couple 764 00:50:35,835 --> 00:50:38,715 Speaker 1: of years after she left MSNBC for the last time, 765 00:50:39,635 --> 00:50:41,955 Speaker 1: every day when I went into that Last Word office, 766 00:50:41,995 --> 00:50:45,555 Speaker 1: I realized you were getting your revenge on me without 767 00:50:45,675 --> 00:50:49,235 Speaker 1: even having to lift a finger. Lots of people I've 768 00:50:49,275 --> 00:50:52,475 Speaker 1: worked with, probably a majority of people i've helped, have 769 00:50:52,715 --> 00:50:57,435 Speaker 1: behaved like Lawrence O'Donnell, because, remember it's television. It is 770 00:50:57,555 --> 00:51:01,395 Speaker 1: a mental illness. The comparatively healthy people are the ones 771 00:51:01,435 --> 00:51:04,395 Speaker 1: who acknowledge it's a mental illness. But Lawrence O'Donnell was 772 00:51:04,475 --> 00:51:08,755 Speaker 1: some one thing special. A year before my dad died, 773 00:51:09,395 --> 00:51:11,235 Speaker 1: almost to the day, In fact, I was in Los 774 00:51:11,275 --> 00:51:14,115 Speaker 1: Angeles appearing on Bill Maher's show, and one of the 775 00:51:14,195 --> 00:51:17,035 Speaker 1: other guests that night was the actress Carrie Washington. She 776 00:51:17,235 --> 00:51:19,875 Speaker 1: was very nice to me, very sweet, a very big fan, 777 00:51:20,355 --> 00:51:23,675 Speaker 1: and she asked to stay in touch. Sure enough, after 778 00:51:23,755 --> 00:51:26,035 Speaker 1: my father died, after the memorial. After I was back 779 00:51:26,075 --> 00:51:28,195 Speaker 1: at work, I had to go to his house for 780 00:51:28,275 --> 00:51:30,835 Speaker 1: the first time since he had passed away. It was 781 00:51:30,915 --> 00:51:34,595 Speaker 1: about as much fun as it sounds. In the car 782 00:51:34,875 --> 00:51:37,795 Speaker 1: on the way back into New York City. The solemnity 783 00:51:37,955 --> 00:51:40,715 Speaker 1: of it. Both my parents died within eleven months of 784 00:51:40,795 --> 00:51:44,155 Speaker 1: each other. It really hit me for some reason for 785 00:51:44,355 --> 00:51:47,155 Speaker 1: the first time, full force, and I was about to 786 00:51:47,315 --> 00:51:51,595 Speaker 1: lose it when the car approached a billboard overlooking the 787 00:51:51,675 --> 00:51:54,315 Speaker 1: West Side Highway in New York City. And whose big 788 00:51:54,435 --> 00:51:58,875 Speaker 1: smiling face was on the ad on that billboard, Carrie Washington. 789 00:51:59,755 --> 00:52:01,915 Speaker 1: And it flashed me right back to her kindness in 790 00:52:02,195 --> 00:52:04,475 Speaker 1: la and it helped me overcome this bump in my 791 00:52:04,475 --> 00:52:07,515 Speaker 1: mid morning. So I wanted to drop her a note, 792 00:52:07,755 --> 00:52:12,555 Speaker 1: nothing big, nothing suggestive. I wasn't hinting at asking her out. 793 00:52:13,435 --> 00:52:16,675 Speaker 1: Just you never know how you might help somebody in 794 00:52:16,755 --> 00:52:21,595 Speaker 1: a time of crisis. Thanks for letting me smile. That 795 00:52:21,755 --> 00:52:24,315 Speaker 1: was the whole message. I asked my assistant to figure 796 00:52:24,315 --> 00:52:25,635 Speaker 1: out how to get it to her, and that was 797 00:52:25,675 --> 00:52:30,435 Speaker 1: the end of it, except a week later, the fact 798 00:52:30,475 --> 00:52:33,035 Speaker 1: that I wrote her a note wound up in a 799 00:52:33,155 --> 00:52:41,315 Speaker 1: column written by an colter. I was astonished how why, 800 00:52:41,635 --> 00:52:45,915 Speaker 1: and Colter it was her usual the brain doesn't quite 801 00:52:46,195 --> 00:52:48,715 Speaker 1: work right kind of stuff. She implied, I was hitting 802 00:52:48,755 --> 00:52:51,235 Speaker 1: on Carrie Washington and said how stupid I had to 803 00:52:51,315 --> 00:52:53,675 Speaker 1: be to not realize she was involved with somebody, and 804 00:52:53,835 --> 00:52:56,435 Speaker 1: on and on and on, no mention of my father's passing, 805 00:52:56,795 --> 00:52:59,795 Speaker 1: or the mar show or the billboard or her smiling face. 806 00:53:01,115 --> 00:53:03,755 Speaker 1: I went back to my assistant and I said, hey, 807 00:53:04,195 --> 00:53:07,595 Speaker 1: one on earth did you do with that note to 808 00:53:07,755 --> 00:53:11,195 Speaker 1: Carrie Washington? And she said, oh, I gave it to 809 00:53:11,395 --> 00:53:15,755 Speaker 1: this Lawrence O'Donnell guy. And I said, good God, why 810 00:53:15,835 --> 00:53:18,635 Speaker 1: did you do that? And she said, well, he's dating 811 00:53:18,755 --> 00:53:21,315 Speaker 1: Carrie Washington. I thought you knew that. I thought that's 812 00:53:21,355 --> 00:53:25,035 Speaker 1: why you asked me to get it to her. So 813 00:53:25,315 --> 00:53:28,075 Speaker 1: it wasn't hard to figure out from there. Lawrence had 814 00:53:28,155 --> 00:53:31,675 Speaker 1: called his old friend from the old MSNBC Friends of 815 00:53:31,755 --> 00:53:35,435 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six and Colter and told her about the note, 816 00:53:35,955 --> 00:53:39,035 Speaker 1: inventing whatever motive his jealous little mind could dream up. 817 00:53:39,635 --> 00:53:42,515 Speaker 1: It should have gotten him fired from NBC, but unfortunately 818 00:53:42,595 --> 00:53:44,915 Speaker 1: his boss was just as much of a fourteen year 819 00:53:44,955 --> 00:53:47,995 Speaker 1: old emotionally as he was. And meanwhile, I had decided 820 00:53:47,995 --> 00:53:50,595 Speaker 1: to get out of MSNBC anyway when the time was ripe, 821 00:53:51,475 --> 00:53:54,995 Speaker 1: and as it turned out, it ripened in January twenty eleven. 822 00:53:54,995 --> 00:53:58,515 Speaker 1: I've told that story in other episodes, like sixty of them. 823 00:53:58,635 --> 00:54:02,395 Speaker 1: It's kind of complicated, and since nobody ever actually asked 824 00:54:02,435 --> 00:54:05,075 Speaker 1: me why count Down the TV show ended, probably got 825 00:54:05,075 --> 00:54:09,715 Speaker 1: another sixty episodes worth of information about that anyway in 826 00:54:09,835 --> 00:54:14,115 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, since repeatedly over the following ten years, there 827 00:54:14,155 --> 00:54:16,955 Speaker 1: were overtures by both sides to bring Countdown and Me 828 00:54:17,195 --> 00:54:20,795 Speaker 1: back to MSNBC. In twenty fifteen during the World Series, 829 00:54:20,875 --> 00:54:24,035 Speaker 1: in fact, the then president of NBC News, Andy Lack, 830 00:54:24,675 --> 00:54:26,875 Speaker 1: asked me to come back and do a new show 831 00:54:26,955 --> 00:54:30,395 Speaker 1: at MSNBC and move to Los Angeles and have a 832 00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:35,035 Speaker 1: co host, a conservative, and not do any commentaries. And 833 00:54:35,115 --> 00:54:38,715 Speaker 1: actually this new show was somehow less appealing than it sounds. 834 00:54:39,915 --> 00:54:42,635 Speaker 1: But the punchline of all punchlines is contained in what 835 00:54:42,795 --> 00:54:47,195 Speaker 1: Lack wanted to call my new twenty fifteen MSNBC show 836 00:54:47,235 --> 00:54:49,595 Speaker 1: that never was. It tells you all you really need 837 00:54:49,715 --> 00:54:52,475 Speaker 1: to know about the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell and 838 00:54:52,675 --> 00:54:56,795 Speaker 1: MSNBC and O'Donnell's place in TV history at its demise 839 00:54:57,755 --> 00:55:02,315 Speaker 1: and the end of MSNBC. NBC new president Lack was 840 00:55:02,475 --> 00:55:05,435 Speaker 1: brimming with enthusiasm about this name that he had come 841 00:55:05,515 --> 00:55:08,515 Speaker 1: up with for my new show of good the perfect title. 842 00:55:08,835 --> 00:55:12,435 Speaker 1: Lack told me, we're gonna call it The Last Word 843 00:55:12,595 --> 00:55:17,315 Speaker 1: with Keith Alderman, and I didn't laugh for guffaw. I 844 00:55:17,475 --> 00:55:21,355 Speaker 1: just said, Andy, you have a show called the Last Word, 845 00:55:22,115 --> 00:55:27,435 Speaker 1: The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell. Andy Lack now laughed, huh, 846 00:55:28,115 --> 00:55:44,595 Speaker 1: hopefully not for much longer. I don't O'Donnell not a fan. 847 00:55:45,315 --> 00:55:48,595 Speaker 1: Scarborough not a fan. Then again, why would I be 848 00:55:48,635 --> 00:55:50,315 Speaker 1: a fan of either of them. I'm a human being. 849 00:55:51,235 --> 00:55:52,995 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 850 00:55:53,035 --> 00:55:55,635 Speaker 1: you for listening. Countdown. Musical directors Brian Ray and John 851 00:55:55,635 --> 00:55:58,515 Speaker 1: Phillips Chanel arranged, produced, and performed most of our music. 852 00:55:58,875 --> 00:56:01,515 Speaker 1: Mister Ray was on the guitars, bass and drums. Mister 853 00:56:01,555 --> 00:56:06,515 Speaker 1: Shaneale handled orchestration and keyboards. Produced by T Brothers. Other music, 854 00:56:06,555 --> 00:56:09,475 Speaker 1: including some of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by 855 00:56:09,515 --> 00:56:12,755 Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. Sports music is the Olderman 856 00:56:12,835 --> 00:56:16,075 Speaker 1: theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy 857 00:56:16,115 --> 00:56:19,915 Speaker 1: of espn inc Our satirical and pithy musical comments are 858 00:56:19,955 --> 00:56:23,315 Speaker 1: by Nancy Faust. The best baseball stadium organist ever. Our 859 00:56:23,355 --> 00:56:25,795 Speaker 1: announcer today is my friend Richard Lewis, and everything else 860 00:56:25,955 --> 00:56:29,515 Speaker 1: was as usual, pretty much my fault. So that's countdown 861 00:56:29,555 --> 00:56:32,555 Speaker 1: for this the two hundred and eighty seventh day until 862 00:56:32,595 --> 00:56:35,755 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four US presidential election, and the one 863 00:56:36,755 --> 00:56:40,155 Speaker 1: and fourteenth day since dementia J Trump's first attempted coup 864 00:56:40,195 --> 00:56:43,395 Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Use 865 00:56:43,475 --> 00:56:47,675 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment, use the Insurrection Act, use the justice 866 00:56:47,675 --> 00:56:50,235 Speaker 1: system and the mental health system to stop him from 867 00:56:50,315 --> 00:56:55,835 Speaker 1: doing it again while we still can. The next scheduled 868 00:56:55,875 --> 00:56:58,475 Speaker 1: countdown is tomorrow. Bolton says, the news warrants till then. 869 00:56:58,795 --> 00:57:01,875 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olverman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and 870 00:57:02,275 --> 00:57:21,875 Speaker 1: good luck. Countdown with Keith Oldman is a production of iHeartRadio. 871 00:57:22,195 --> 00:57:27,315 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 872 00:57:27,635 --> 00:57:29,555 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.