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Speaker 1: Celebrity book club.

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Speaker 2: Mate passed me and Stella.

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Speaker 3: Oh fuck, we'll have like four laugh. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to go to pub Lader.

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Speaker 2: Okay, don't have to ask me twice. Of course we're

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Speaker 2: going to pub Lada. Have you heard that new Sarah

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Speaker 2: Von remix with Fat Boys Slim? They were just playing

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Speaker 2: at Radio one God.

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Speaker 3: With Julie Tiger hosting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to make it like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to make ship that like.

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Speaker 3: Your voice is so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Stops.

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Speaker 3: You're like an icon, Like no one is like you

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Speaker 3: at like school mate.

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Speaker 2: No, you're always taking the piss. Oh fuck, let me

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Speaker 2: run into my hobo bag.

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Speaker 3: I want a new leather satchel hubble bag with like

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Speaker 3: flowers printed on it, and like maybe go like Vincine

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Speaker 3: shopping like Eastly.

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Speaker 2: I want new flats for a new flat. Yeah ah yes,

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Speaker 2: new flats flat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we like both.

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Speaker 1: Like a proper couch, like a proper adult couch.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, we should like borrow like mitches

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Speaker 3: can't go to our k.

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Speaker 2: Alright, let's just nick the keys.

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Speaker 3: Nick the keys and go to the couch.

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Speaker 2: Proper adult. Oh fuck, I just spilled stour JB.

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Speaker 3: Fucking sorry, Games, you fucking serious. I just got this.

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Speaker 2: I'm such a dumb slag.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're so stuppy. We've only even had like six

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Speaker 3: point five liters of stellar so far.

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Speaker 2: It's got harods and just nick some high fires.

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Speaker 3: You're fucking crazy.

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Speaker 2: Ames, I'm a mad bird. Get used to it.

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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 2: It's all your friends. You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and.

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Speaker 1: We've got books and a bottle of wine. It's Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: it's books, it's gossip.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's memoirs.

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Speaker 3: Celebrity puff Club.

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Speaker 2: Read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity puff Club, I tell your secrets.

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Speaker 3: We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 2: No boys are aloud. Celebrity book say it loud and

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Speaker 2: cloud Celebrity poop Club.

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Speaker 3: Buzz me in. I brought the queer Foe. Hi best slag.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you mate, Good to see you mate.

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Speaker 3: You can fit. You're looking like preps.

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Speaker 2: You're looking like a proper essex slag. Right with the trackie, but.

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Speaker 3: My tracking is because it's like cozy. But I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do later. You could like just just

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Speaker 3: it down, like just got my track is on.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean like your little bitch. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: I argue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's why I like you, because you're like

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Speaker 3: little miss Buckingham, you know, your little Prince Charles Cardigan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just because my aunt lives at kind of does

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Speaker 2: it mean that I'm posh?

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Speaker 3: Are you freaking posh?

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Speaker 2: I med aicution lessons. We actually have to stop talking

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Speaker 2: like this.

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Speaker 3: No, we have to stop talking in British.

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Speaker 2: But it's like mad rainy out and it's like literally

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Speaker 2: getting London, literally London.

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Speaker 3: And now, as someone who's literally been to London, like

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Speaker 3: it's rainy and you were jackets and you're.

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Speaker 2: Like before you didn't have like this reference for rain.

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Speaker 2: You were just kind of like, okay, rain boring. But

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Speaker 2: once you've been to London, rain takes on this romance,

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Speaker 2: this history.

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Speaker 3: Is this weather really inspiring you to be even more

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Speaker 3: cold for your upcoming beach vacation.

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Speaker 2: I've never been more excited to go to Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 3: Because I was almost wondering, like, have you been cold

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Speaker 3: enough yet for it to really feel like No.

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Speaker 2: Today felt like one of those thank God I'm leaving

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Speaker 2: too cold in that way where you're like the wind

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Speaker 2: and the wet west and you're running errands. I'm trotting

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Speaker 2: after the barber shop. Okay, it's funny. Here's a hilarious

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Speaker 2: anecdote that I can share my podcast. So you know

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Speaker 2: how or maybe you don't know because you have like

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Speaker 2: privilege of having like female haircut experience, but like going

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Speaker 2: to the barber shop does involve this performance of masculinity.

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Speaker 2: And now even though my barber like does know that

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Speaker 2: I'm game, we're always like talking about my boyfriend, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, yeah, going to the PR with the

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Speaker 3: boy I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm literally being Amanda Bines and she's the man.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh man, can we blossom Metallica?

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Speaker 2: That shit is dope, and like he's he's basting hip

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Speaker 2: hop and being like yo, so what's up son? And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, like me and my boyfriend are going

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Speaker 2: to put a Rico cheek in and he's like, yo,

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Speaker 2: that's what's up, Like it's my favorite place to go.

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Speaker 2: Like but just so you know, it's not all inclusive,

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Speaker 2: like they're gonna charge you for everything. I'm like, no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the ship. Like we're going. We're going to this

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Speaker 2: tiny yes island off the coast. It's like mad undiscovered.

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Speaker 3: Me and my boyfriend were going like mad Ship from

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Speaker 3: the Essence sale, like mad little Boy shorts and Ship.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got these free c tanks that just

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Speaker 2: derived from Essence. Do you fuck with Montreal? My dude?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say on the other end, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm trapped in between because it's like, oh, women, you're

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Speaker 3: supposed to go in gossip and it's expected. You know, oh,

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Speaker 3: I have these problems.

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Speaker 2: Will you want to gossip with your hair cut tracks?

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Speaker 3: It is? But before that, I never like knew how

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Speaker 3: to gossip with like other countrickses. But that's because I

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Speaker 3: was always getting like silent group on hair.

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Speaker 2: Guys from a student.

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Speaker 3: From the student, I'm just like, oh yeah, I hate

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Speaker 3: my boyfriend right now, and they're just like what okay?

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Speaker 2: With so many is my stylist he also like is

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Speaker 2: being so like an ally and was just like yo,

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Speaker 2: Like on years, me and my wife were supposed to

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Speaker 2: meet up with our gay friends, but one of them

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Speaker 2: like broke his ankle or some ship oh obsessed, so

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Speaker 2: we didn't go out, and then they were like, do

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Speaker 2: you want to come over. I was like, son, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to go from a house to another house.

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Speaker 3: I mean, period, I'm not going to go from a

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Speaker 2: Like I'm already at home.

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Speaker 3: Do you want me to sit at your house?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean that was actually me this weekend when it

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Speaker 3: was story, I was like, I'm not going from I

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Speaker 3: knew you.

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Speaker 2: Weren't coming to that meet up that we scheduled.

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Speaker 3: House to another house.

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Speaker 2: No, when there was literally like zero point seven inches

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Speaker 2: of snow flurry.

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Speaker 3: No, your girl, we were he.

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Speaker 2: You were down for the count.

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Speaker 3: But I did go to I can't And you'll hear

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Speaker 3: about that in the VIP lounge.

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Speaker 2: I'm shaking.

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Speaker 3: Nothing that revolutionary happened, Wait saved because I'll have to

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Speaker 3: get a new shvs. Okay speaking people who have dreams

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Speaker 3: of going to Ikea.

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Speaker 2: People who just want to be a grown up and

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Speaker 2: live on their own an apartment.

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Speaker 3: And I will say the last true and now you

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Speaker 3: see I'm speaking in the past tense, the last true

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Speaker 3: jazz singer.

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Speaker 2: Who Tony Bennett said should be included along with Ella

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Speaker 2: Fitzgerald and Nina Simone as one of the great jazz

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Speaker 3: Literally like I'm just like, yes, I love Lana, I

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Speaker 3: love Lady Gongo whatever, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't well, okay, I'm gonna call you Anna that

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're such a fan of this person.

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Speaker 2: And you certainly weren't when we were kids this person.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 2: You? Like thought she was like funny and ridiculous, but

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Speaker 2: you weren't been so like, oh, I'm so excited for

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Speaker 2: the latest live vinyl and going to her shows.

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Speaker 3: Well you were going to her shows either.

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Speaker 2: No, but I'm not claiming to be Okay.

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Speaker 3: But she is looking back now, I'm like, she is

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Speaker 2: Well, and we'll get into this sort of like the

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Speaker 2: revision is history that comes when someone dies, because I

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Speaker 2: already in the lionization and in the canonization, and it

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Speaker 2: is already happening. Of course, we're talking about none other

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Speaker 2: than the British Shunters.

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Speaker 3: Behive Stella wearing Stella, drinks a drink Cocain, doing.

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Speaker 2: The pride of London ladies and gentlemen. Amy wine House

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Speaker 2: and her kind of book question quotation marks her book

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Speaker 2: any wine House words. So this book came out August

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, put up by day Street, who, as

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Speaker 2: some of you may remember, is the same imprint of

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Speaker 2: HarperCollins that did drop the Brink.

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Speaker 3: So it's kind of a celebrity imprint, if you will.

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Speaker 2: Definitely also like an imprint that's like, shall we say,

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Speaker 3: Were you really popular in two thousand and four?

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Speaker 2: In a woman and like the media.

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Speaker 3: And we will now look.

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Speaker 2: Correct now, we will correct the record.

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Speaker 3: This book was also produced by her parents, which we'll

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Speaker 3: get into the ethics of that.

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Speaker 2: To me, this book is basically a response to the

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Speaker 2: documentary that came out, which does not paint especially the father,

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. It paints him in a pretty like

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen the doc please go see it.

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Speaker 2: It's a twenty fifteen I remember sobbing in theaters seeing

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Speaker 2: that sobbing and it's it's really well done, and it

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Speaker 2: does paint the dad and several other figures in her life.

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Speaker 2: Is basically just like wanting to keep that gravy train

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Speaker 2: going and just being like, you know what, we can

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Speaker 2: tell that she's bileemic, like three pounds, like drugs like

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Speaker 2: so chaotic but we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Like perform, perform, make her perform.

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Speaker 2: In Belgrade, and like make her go on tour, and

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Speaker 2: like even though she's falling apart, and the dad like

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Speaker 2: it is her name to do this reality show and

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Speaker 2: like she he was.

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Speaker 3: Her manager the whole time. And so this whole book

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Speaker 3: is basically like a coffee table book with like big quotes,

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Speaker 2: The book is like kind of a collage of sorts.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of like you know, scans of like

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Speaker 2: little notes that she wrote, and like poems and lists

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Speaker 2: she would make of what she wanted her apartment to

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Speaker 2: look like when she was older, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: fascinating effemera that I do think helps build out a

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Speaker 2: beautiful portrait of an artist we lost too soon.

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Speaker 3: And also even though I love the doc, I mean

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Speaker 3: TheBus and like, no.

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Speaker 2: I think the doctor does a great job as someone

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's been like two years from me and I

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Speaker 3: was sobbing in my home when I watched it.

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Speaker 2: I think the doctors a great job of showing like

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Speaker 3: Because they're the older people that are in your home

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Speaker 3: Why, Yeah, she's probably like the dad rock like it's past,

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Speaker 3: She writes this whole just also like me, like Hanan,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a gorgeous line. I Mean. One thing

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Speaker 2: But I know I'm not paying. I'm saying it's apples

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Speaker 2: So it's a little old man. Care for him, wash

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Speaker 3: Well, it's because she's so British that things like this

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Speaker 2: And yet some of her stuff is like her stuff

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Speaker 3: There's a whole old book is like. And that's when

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay awards people love like slight a genre

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Speaker 3: Amy as I am now? And as you did? Call

444
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: me out? And I think you're totally right. I feel

445
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: like at the time I was like, Okay, I love Rehab,

446
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: but I probably was like she's so cherry tattoo and

447
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 3: like fake b have you?

448
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: That's all you said at the time. I just want

449
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: everybody to know that Lily was just like so vicious,

450
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: and you're dismissed of Amy Winehouse as being so cherry

451
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: tattoo and just like so alt, and you're just like, yeah,

452
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: she's just like a regular alt girl. And you thought

453
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: that like she was so Beatles and you were like, yeah,

454
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: like I'm so dark buster and I'm so actual indie bands,

455
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: and like she just cares about the Libertines, who are

456
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: just like whatever, great girls.

457
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I never just the Libertines.

458
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: I remember one time, well I maybe shared this story before,

459
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: but our friend Eva, Yeah, I was thinking of that

460
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: when my friend from college was visiting you in Chicago

461
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: and I was there. We were like.

462
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: Living together, we were living together, Yeah.

463
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: And my friend from NYU was visiting me in Chicago

464
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: and we were like hanging out in your cool house,

465
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: like drinking pebias, and my friend was just like, man,

466
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 2: I think like Amy Whinehouse is so cool, Like she

467
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: sings about what Ella Fitzgerald would sing about if she

468
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: were live today, and Eva, you're just like really thin, cunty,

469
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: cool friend. She just goes. I don't think Ella Fitzgerald

470
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: would be singing about skull t shirts. Just disdain, just

471
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: dripping from her lips, and like my friend, who has

472
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 2: such a like earnest fan, was just so kind of

473
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: like cowed by that, and it was just like, oh,

474
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: like okay, and like kind of trying to defend it

475
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: a little bit, and she was so just like lose, sir,

476
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: just like, oh, you're falling for her.

477
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: Stick, I mean, obsess.

478
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: So I do think that's kind of where you were.

479
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: More so it's interesting to see you make that one Eaedy,

480
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: And I do think that I just.

481
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: Think that is an amazing moment though, because I do

482
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: think I love Abe Whitehouse. But I think it was

483
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: actually talking about Billie Holiday and I was thinking about.

484
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: That, and I did say Billy Holliday, and I.

485
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: Do actually think Billy Holliday would sing about skull t

486
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 3: shirts because I think Billy Holliday is a lesbian and

487
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: she wears Rod Dunum period.

488
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, any objections anyone, okay to the lesbian in the

489
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: track track book Club, book Club. I feel like, what's

490
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: happening here, though, of course, is there is this You're

491
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: viewing everything that she went through and sort of this

492
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: grand arc of greatness into tragedy, and so I think

493
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: it's impossible not to view someone who has died tragically

494
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: prematurely in like this saint like way.

495
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: And she's twenty seven club, especially the.

496
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: Seven clubs, so we canonize everyone in the twenty seven club,

497
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 2: and then her accomplishments on the one hand, get like,

498
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: you know, not that we should minimize them, but I

499
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: think they're seen as even more favorable where we might

500
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: see someone. I was like, yeah, they want a bunch

501
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: of awards, because people when awards now we're like, oh

502
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: my god, she was a once in a lifetime talent.

503
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: And then it's all building to this sadness and then

504
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: we start looking at everything as being this little piece

505
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: of the puzzle that was always going to end in

506
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: this tragic burnout.

507
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: No, And I was like, it's the tragic burnout that

508
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: you speak of. And it's like, I think people maybe

509
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: be like looking in this book to be like, what

510
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: was it When did she start doing drums?

511
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just think the mythology around it starts to

512
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: become so consuming and it is hard, and I don't

513
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: think the book of the doc or anything can really

514
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: evade what has become this canonization and the sanctification.

515
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone's making her to a Saint

516
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: per se, but she's now Idol, She's Marylyn. She had

517
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: the Marilyn piercing. Also, if we can talk about her

518
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: her style transition from getting like more just like jewish

519
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: middle school girl.

520
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: She's so Jewish girl and she's like straining her.

521
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 3: Hair just like braces and just like puffer flares, and

522
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 3: then she is like a normal size and then she

523
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: kind of starts to be bulimic.

524
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: And in the doc does mom mentioned the blieme in

525
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: that this book at all?

526
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: They don't talk about the blame in this book.

527
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: Because which is so crazy, because because when you see

528
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: all this footage of her later, it's like, yeah, she's

529
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: on drugs, but the thigh gap is not natural.

530
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: The are like crazy.

531
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: It's like when you have the thigh gap and a

532
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 2: little bit of the paunch and the arms are like

533
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: so thin, it's like that's just sort of telltale Belliams.

534
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: And it's like the parents are a little kind of pretending,

535
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: like it's not like there's a quote from the mom

536
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: where she's like, oh, and she told me she has

537
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: this new trick where she eats the food and then

538
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: she goes and and whatever. The British phrase up chucking

539
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: or something, you know. Then she roughs it all up

540
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: and that's the secret. And I suppose I should have

541
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: given it more thought at the time. It's like, yeah,

542
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: I think.

543
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: Parents though, you know, they can say little comments about wait,

544
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: and it can.

545
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: Especially her Jewish mom's yeah comments.

546
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: And maybe her kind of like big dad, big.

547
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: Fat dad was projecting. I mean the dad is It's

548
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: like she's just she loved her daddy.

549
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: She did love her.

550
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: It said Daddy's girl.

551
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: This is what icond of her mom was just I

552
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: feel like, kind of like normal, but she had her

553
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: mom tattooed as a diner waitress.

554
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh okay, wait, so this brings us to the whole

555
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: diner waitress thing. I have a whole thing I want

556
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: to talk about this. So did you see the song

557
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: waffle House Girls called Dolly's Diner that she wrote, And

558
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: she has this whole fantasy of being a waitress. So

559
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: first of all, there's like a little drawing here of

560
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: like a hot, little like roller skate waitress with like tits,

561
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: and it's very pin up and it falls into her

562
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: whole like you know, panapesthetic.

563
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 3: Evolution to popesthetic, which is kind of like my opinion.

564
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: That's the hottest thing a girl can do is the

565
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: hottest woman alive.

566
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, like period period, Jerry's Beehive, Chucky's so.

567
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: This dry to a girl in the little apron and

568
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: like dark haired, dark lip, Hello, my name is the

569
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: waffle waitress. I love waffles and need to sell them.

570
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: Please buy them. And you see they're that telltale amy humor.

571
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: That wicked, that wicked wit.

572
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: There's this kind of like dead pan quality. So then

573
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: I want to read. I want to read a line

574
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: from Dolly's Diner. Here at Dolly's Diner, We'll let you cry,

575
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: We'll let you talk about how you cheated, but never

576
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: ask you why. Beneath my skates and falsees, you'll find

577
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm a person too. But though I'll serve your coffee,

578
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: I'll never speak like that to you. No, I'll never

579
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: tell you anything.

580
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: I mean, the diner thing I feel like is anyone

581
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: who is a creative wants a diner song, a diner

582
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: scene in a movie. Like there's always the dream of

583
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: like what if I just gave it all up and

584
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: went to work at a diner.

585
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Because the diner is.

586
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Americana, it's working.

587
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: Class or British hauna. It's it's working class.

588
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: But she also liked America.

589
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: She loved America.

590
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: I think the waffle house is more about her idolizing,

591
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: like because she always like went to.

592
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: Go visit her what's interesting. So it reminds me of

593
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: the Morgan wallensong God made a bar or go sorry,

594
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Man made bar, with the lyrics at which our God

595
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: made the world semon short days. He said it was good.

596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: I bet it was great. God made man. Man got lonely,

597
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: he said, please God, if I could only have an

598
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: angel to hold on my arm. So God made a

599
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: girl supposed to go up art, but he didn't make

600
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: a place to go when she breaks your heart. So

601
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: Man made a bar. And I think it's about the

602
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: sacredness of the third space and where you go. And

603
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: then I think along with that is the emotional labor

604
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: of the service industry, right.

605
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: But also diner is this black coffee sitting all day.

606
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: It's indy, it's Patty Smith, and.

607
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: It's like one of the only places that's like not

608
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: a coffee shop or like a bar you're getting wasted,

609
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: where you can sit all day with one cup.

610
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: The third space that has a low barrier, low cost.

611
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: You can actually be there for two bucks, you get

612
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: eight hours of time. Think what's so interesting about if you?

613
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: Compared to the Morgan Wallen song, she deepens that idea

614
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: of the emotional labor of the waitress by saying, you'll

615
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: find them a person too. But I'm not gonna speak

616
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: like that too. I'm not gonna tell you anything. She's

617
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: basically seen like I'm doing this performance of femininity with

618
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: the falsees and the roller skates. I am the maternal figure,

619
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: i am the therapist. I'm your manic pixie dream mom therapist.

620
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: And yet I'm not actually gonna reveal my vulnerability to

621
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: you because there isn't space for that here, because this

622
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: is your space to cry. And so it's like you're

623
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: getting so much like pathos in this, like this kind

624
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: of simple idea of oh yeah, you go here to

625
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: like cry your eyes out after you cheat on your wife.

626
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: No one else is like injecting that much emotion into

627
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: like these thing. I just feel like we haven't seen

628
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: that before in lyrics before amy about this kind of

629
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: particular storyline, right, I mean, because there's plenty of songs

630
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: about oh yeah, like you know, crying your eyes out

631
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: to break up the bar. But this idea of the waitress.

632
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: Herself, waitress herself.

633
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: As being the person who listens and yet cannot reveal

634
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: her own you know it.

635
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: It also is a little bit the reverse meet Virginia,

636
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: she works. I don't know the lyrics to me at Virginia,

637
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: but you know being a Virginia.

638
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Yes, well I also know Brandy, you know she works.

639
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: I mean there's a million songs about a woman.

640
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: I think that's more about just like kind of having

641
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: this like romantic view of a random woman who happens

642
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: to be a waitress. This is about like the role

643
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: of waitress in male heartbreak. Anyway. The point is I

644
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: think that there is such a depth there.

645
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: Can I just say one thing about the song fuck

646
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: Me Pumps? Yes, it's the song about how there is

647
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: always that girl that's so fun at the club, that

648
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: like gets you in at the club, talks to the

649
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: guys at club, but is like now kind of like desperate,

650
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: and she's kind of like, don't come to me if

651
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: you're pushing thirty and like need a boyfriend. But she

652
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: says this genius line of like we need this girl,

653
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: which I'm just like, thank you. For talking about that,

654
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: which just like if we didn't have this type of girl,

655
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: the fun girl at the club, you would be at

656
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: the club talking to no one.

657
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: She understands so dynamics and woman on such a deep level,

658
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: and she played that role. She played the boisterous quick

659
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: with a joke, big laugh, huge laugh, big bottle of

660
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: jack and coke.

661
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: And I just know I'll never be like fucking pumps girl.

662
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: You're never gonna be like like you're working to everyone

663
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: at the club.

664
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: Only talked out front of the club, but only after

665
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: like my wilder friend is like, let's talk to these guys.

666
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: Right, You're not like going up to the group being

667
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: like fuck it, I'm gonna go over there and say yeah, right.

668
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: Anyway, she wrote lyrics like no other Yeah.

669
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: There's such a humanity and I think it also comes

670
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: back to her Jewish middle class upbringing and a sort

671
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: of diversity of Greater London.

672
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: And like wanted to live in North Finchley.

673
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: And live in North Finchley and like being indie and

674
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: like being into jazz and being into hip hop.

675
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: So she's also I don't indianus because it's like she's

676
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: like Indie in such a like funny different way, which

677
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: is retro jazz girl. She gets punk later, but like

678
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: she's that girl like in class and someone's like, what

679
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: are you listening to and she's just like seavon yeah,

680
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: and someone's like what, and she's like, she's this amazing

681
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: jazz singer from nineteen forty eight.

682
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.

683
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: I like the old stuff, right, And then people are like,

684
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: oh wait, this bitch is like retro.

685
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: I feel like that is an even more legit way,

686
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: a legit entry point to indian It's a little.

687
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Different than like being it's between theater girl and indie girl.

688
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: It's where they collide.

689
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: I think partly why you had an aversion to her

690
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: is because you didn't realize that her transformation into the

691
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: Mark Ronson more like sixties girl group soul influence sound

692
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: was just kind of like you know, uh, necessary evolution

693
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: that she had to make in order to be a

694
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: little bit more mainstream, and that was just kind of

695
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: the sound that Mark Ronson happened to like make.

696
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: With her like she left us.

697
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: But I think that she was like so retro and

698
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: so jazz, and like you were just being, oh, she's

699
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: just another Josh Stone, like doing the kind of neo

700
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: soul sound that's in right now, but she was just

701
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: being put onto that temporarily for that album.

702
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: No, And I think if I, maybe you know, said

703
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: these things, I look, I was just like Amy, I

704
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: was young and dumb. Okay, yeah you were. I was like, yeah,

705
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 3: I love Sinatra and Sarah Von too. Okay, but some

706
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: of us like stuck to it. We didn't sell out

707
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: and play on Kiss Want to Wait. But I always

708
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: loved the music. I think it was like the persona.

709
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: I probably saw it as fake.

710
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: I do think Mark Ronson's production on the album is

711
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: a little like whatever. It's like a little bit blank.

712
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: Wow coming for Rehab all these years later.

713
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: I think they're good. I think they're great songs, and

714
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: her vocals are incredible on them. But yeah, I do

715
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: think the productions maybe a little bit flat.

716
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: What would you have done?

717
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's sounds that different than Silo or Jostone.

718
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: I think it sounds a lot different than Joss Stone,

719
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: maybe not that different from Okay, because Josstone I think

720
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: was being a little more fake Vinyl noise in a

721
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 3: Kate Hudson way, and rehabits gleanner. I have an honestly

722
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: literally zero complaints. I'm Mark Ronson's production. Okay, I know

723
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: you're a producer.

724
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: Words literally am a producer producer, as our fans will know,

725
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: they listen to my production in every episode. But I

726
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: think I would have actually been a little bit more spare.

727
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: I would you should redo the one of the best

728
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: selling albums of all time.

729
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: I would have eased. Yeah, I encourage you.

730
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: It would be a really fun project for the winter.

731
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Maybe well release my edit.

732
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: Stevens version back to Black. Okay, you know that thing

733
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: when there's like new jazz singers, it's just something about

734
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: it usually sounds just still a little like di.

735
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: You're not hearing the pain, You're not hearing it. Like

736
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Amy literally was a fucking jirag addict. She was an alcoholic.

737
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: She was smoking cigarettes like these new Juilliard ass jazz girls.

738
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: They've never fucking had a beer in their life.

739
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: Like anything goes up.

740
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,479
Speaker 2: So it's so clean, it's so forgive me white, it's

741
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: just not no.

742
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: When I went to fifty for Below to see this

743
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: notch review, which was amazing, there was one young jazz

744
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: girl and she was probably like the best, but it

745
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: was just like still something a little not just like

746
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: literally like yeah, picking up the whiskey and just fucking.

747
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: And Amy even when there's an amazing scene in the

748
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: documentary where she's recording with Tony Bennett, and Tony Bennett

749
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: is like.

750
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, so I was Amy and Tony came on

751
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: and my just goes me and she's like, wait, why

752
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: are all of them? Why are they obsessed with Tony Bennett?

753
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: And it's Here's saying Tony Bennett is like the last

754
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: of the greats. But can I say something controversial.

755
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. It's not controversial me.

756
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: He is not my favorite and has never been of the.

757
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: So good in like the forties or something.

758
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: He was more like sixties. But whenever, as to me

759
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: is a little Juilliard to.

760
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: Me, I'm just like, you can barely call it singing,

761
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: just like when Tony Bennet's just like fly me to

762
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: the Moon.

763
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 3: Well, you're also here again, let.

764
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: Me play among this suys, and you're kind of like, babe,

765
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: this is talking. We're just talking right now.

766
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean that was also when he was like in

767
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: ninety five and all these cheek is really dragging him

768
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: out of the coffin because Tony Bennett too.

769
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: No, I mean Gaga was doing Algebies for a decade

770
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: with him and the Gaga Tony Bennett Weaken Bernie.

771
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: He always about a little sad because it was like

772
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: I think he loved Amy, and I'm sure he loved Goga,

773
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 3: but it was a little bit like curious Amy died?

774
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: Does you know where he is? He was like, Amy,

775
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: you dyed your head.

776
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: He definitely thought Lady Coco was naming my house.

777
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: Your voice has changed, Lena.

778
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Are you talking about musical theater Lady Gaga.

779
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'll take a you know, Bobby Darren, Frankie Laine.

780
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: But what she is doing, I mean the way she's saying,

781
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: she's so crazy anywhere. It's like these other girls aren't

782
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: crazy like her. Every word she says is different and

783
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: you don't know where she's going to go with these syllables.

784
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn girl, like you're all over the place

785
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: and yet hating the note, still finding the note so

786
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: much power. She was a contralto.

787
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 3: As a producer, I only work with contraltos.

788
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: Which they don't know what that means. But she wasn't

789
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: doing like falsetto so much. She had a big boomy right.

790
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I'm trying to think. I'm like,

791
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: there's not no one has come like.

792
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: Her, and there won't be because fucking as we know,

793
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: zoomers are fucking afraid of drugs and alcohol and they're

794
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: all on their phones and they're never going to find

795
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: that pain to think about it anymore.

796
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: But British people are different.

797
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: I think they're No British people are doing. They're all

798
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 2: doing like whippets at age two. Yes, so we could

799
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: find another British Yeah, Britishish middle class pensioner's daughter, Infinchley.

800
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: I want to read the list of her ambitions. One

801
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: open Dolly's Diner. To be photographed by David lo Chappelle.

802
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: Three to do a movie where I look ugly is

803
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: so genius?

804
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: That is truly the mark of fame. Yeah, it's like

805
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: being ugly in a movie period.

806
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: To act with Michael Madson. To be a good friend

807
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: of Sarisco Parker, Stella McCartney and Eddie Izzard.

808
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: To hweiye Okay, what's so funny about that is that

809
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: such like fag hag behavior.

810
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: Right, just when we be friends with SGP and they

811
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: be like, fuck Hue, just guy.

812
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: But like she kind of wasn't a fag hag.

813
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: I think she had gays, but I feel like the

814
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: media honestly like didn't let us see them because they

815
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: were obsessed with like her marriage with like Blake Field

816
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: of civilis Right and all her just like and be

817
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: like did she fuck Pete Doughdy? We don't know. Yeah,

818
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: to collaborate with Missy Elliott and Timberland, to have a

819
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: shoe collection and over three hundred pairs of shoes, to

820
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: have Marilyn hair, to Meetless Taylor and Paul Newman. Wasn't

821
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: Paul Newman like already dead. Maybe he wasn't.

822
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: Yet well up the timeline on that, I'm not sure.

823
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I'm sure she's with Marilyn, like doing lines

824
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: in the afterlife, to avoid surgery, sessed, to have people

825
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: look up to me, to buy a house in South Beach,

826
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: to make a movie with StEB sent me in it,

827
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: which is also being so I want to look ugly

828
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: at a movie.

829
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: That's also so you. It's like she just was and

830
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: that's why you were upset because like you were Cherry's

831
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: girl and you literally just were like the most normal

832
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: indie seat belt belt and you're just like so mad

833
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: at any white house, even though you were being like, yeah,

834
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: you guys, I think Steve Buscemi is like the coolest

835
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: fucking actor the way she is.

836
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: Me where it's like, what did I want in my fridge? Vodka?

837
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: Age twelve? What did I disrupt colass with my talking?

838
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: What did I want to do? Redecorate my room? Like?

839
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: And I made so many lists like her where I

840
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: was just like.

841
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: You were also so journal covered in like collageon. She

842
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: was collaging from like Heat magazine, which just like picks

843
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: of rend.

844
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: Me and all my lists were just being like get

845
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: a job, fuck this girl. I'm fourteen, just like ret

846
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: more movies like five.

847
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Blizer by a shelf for my t D collection segment

848
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: What did she ate?

849
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Was shere how does she live? Or she eat not much?

850
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: Literally not much? And she says her dad calls around.

851
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: He's actually like horrid cooking.

852
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Like terrible terrible cooking recipe for a pie and here something.

853
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like freaking like burning it.

854
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean she's like pizza, she's getting take away.

855
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: It's take away like currige like spice bag. Do you

856
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 3: know what that is? As I think it's it's British

857
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: or like Irish, but it's like takeaway and it's like

858
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: fried rice, it's like fish and chips. It's like kebab

859
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: and then you put like curry on it.

860
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: It's like a spice bag, okay, and it's just in

861
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: a bag.

862
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: It's in a box, but it's called like spice bag.

863
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like all British food is eating

864
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: at four in the morning when you're wasted, because that's

865
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: what they always are.

866
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: The best meal I had in England was when I

867
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 3: had like a like kebob wrap roll after a show

868
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: at four am.

869
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Tech Away might remember you're eating that takeaway, yeah.

870
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 3: But you do, Like I feel like we literally in England.

871
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: I remember I was like I have not eaten. Yeah,

872
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: Like except for that, it's.

873
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: So easy when you're in Go Go Go London to

874
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: like literally not not.

875
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Eating and then you're like fuck cutting take a light

876
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: for six hours, nicking high fives and.

877
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: She's having like seven jack and cokes.

878
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: Seven jack and cokes. I mean, I'll say it again,

879
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: pass me the Stella and fries. Yeah, Stelen fries. It's

880
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, so be at the pub. But I

881
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: feel like she is to share Horrowitz. We're probably like

882
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: made something random and it's like burning up her flat.

883
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, she like did he once?

884
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: How does she live? I feel like we have to

885
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: read this stuff she wants to get for her teen room,

886
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: make my bureau into a homwic area, get a new TV.

887
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 3: She has a thousand lists in this book and it's

888
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: always getting new TV. And I'm like, is this the

889
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: same thing? Are you upgrading? Clean my room and put

890
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: away drapes on new curtains, some shelves, finish painting my room,

891
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: get rid of my bookcase or put it somewhere else.

892
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: My new room layer and she's bed against the wall,

893
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: rug bookcase.

894
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 2: She has the actual floor plan that she drew. Yeah. Yeah,

895
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: so the bed is against the wall, which is ultimately

896
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: very like I mean this is her teen because this

897
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: teen room, but it's also like girl who doesn't eat?

898
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: I feel like, is bet against the wall?

899
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. In the Horrible Lesbian Romance Renovation Romance, they renovated

900
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: room to have a bed against the wall, and I screamed, I.

901
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: Mean, listen, if it's a guest room and it's a

902
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: day bed, fine.

903
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: A day bed, but not like a hotel room. No,

904
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: when she was richer, I still feel like she was being.

905
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: She was absolutely still the messiest girl on earth. Then

906
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: there's just crack pipes everywhere.

907
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: And like bottles. She had like seirteen.

908
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: Cats, and it's like so many clothes and hangars and

909
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: like things to return to, like Marcus and Spencer, and

910
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 2: like it's an absolute fucking mess. I mean girls like that.

911
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: We've talked about this, like you know, talking about Lona

912
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: del Ray, Like girls like that are already insanely messy

913
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: bedroom girls, even if they're not, like we'll ask Crack,

914
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: it's like they're already being so like there's ear rings

915
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: in the ash tray and there's like gum like in

916
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: the underwear, and like there's like so much like Agent

917
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: Provocateur that's like she's like move it fly, Like still

918
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: tags on that are just like with takeaway like on

919
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: top of the tags. It's like those girls are already

920
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 2: like that. And then add in just like full crack

921
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: and heroin addiction and I need's messy.

922
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: It's messy, but I guess there's a TV in there,

923
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: and the TV I think is always on.

924
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what does she wear? I would like to read

925
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: our attention to a list of summer shoes that she

926
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: wants to buy. Two pairs black ballet shoe and canvas

927
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: twenty four quid. A tropical brown leather wedge.

928
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: So it's like tropical pattern.

929
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: Okay, it says tropical slash brown other wedge. I think

930
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: she means that a wedge, like a woven wedge is

931
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: just by definition tropical.

932
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: That's true.

933
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: And then like the actual like fabric that's around the

934
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: foot is brown leather, or she means the fabric could

935
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: be like a floral pre That's what I was picturing,

936
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: and there is no brown latha. But I guess either.

937
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: The wedge is kind of tropical in nature and you

938
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: will be wearing.

939
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: Okay, did you clock that she went to Cypress on

940
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: vacation with her parents?

941
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: Okay, somehow I missed.

942
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: They were like, here's a picture of us in Cypress,

943
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: which is so like Jewish middle class pensioner, because Cypress

944
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: is still such.

945
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: A just like you're not going to increase, You're.

946
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: Going to Cypress because you're random as hell. Okay, flat

947
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: brown loafery shoes, which is a so now and so

948
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: just like whatever.

949
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: Right now, loafers are out and ballet flats are in,

950
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: So she's actually.

951
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: Being oh because Prada is trying to be so like.

952
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: People just keep on saying ballet flats are in, but

953
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet.

954
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a single flat walking around.

955
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of lists that say flats are.

956
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: And I don't even think I saw like at a

957
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: recent sort of like dime square party where all the

958
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: girls were like being so like, we're wearing kind of

959
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: why two k fuck outfits of like the tiniest girt

960
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: you've ever seen in a huge belt. I didn't even

961
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: see any flat flat and it was being well, girls, girls,

962
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: if you're into flats, now's the time. Okay, put your

963
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: money where your mouth is. And then white canvas ballet.

964
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 3: Pump, canvas ballet pump. It's kind of crazy, kind of

965
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: crazy canvas pump.

966
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: But I guess that's like so Marilyn because it's kind

967
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: of like virginal.

968
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 3: But you think it would be more like shine.

969
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: It's also a little it's actually just more resort. And

970
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: this is why again she's from middle class tension or

971
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: cypress is. It's like she's wearing these canvas pumps, and

972
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: she got really into Saint Lucia like later.

973
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, I really want to go to

974
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: Saint Lucia and we'd go. Me and Blake, You're going

975
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: to Saint Lucia.

976
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: And she was on Saint Lucia for six months with

977
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: her dad drinking drinking, yeah, but.

978
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 3: Not doing her alcohol.

979
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: But that's the weird thing is she alcohol killed her.

980
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: Well and I feel she had that fing where it

981
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 3: was like if you have one more sip.

982
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like all right, well, I.

983
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: Feel like it's the body as a doctor is like

984
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: so fucked off from the heroine and then that one

985
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: last sip, you know.

986
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: What I mean, Like, listen, the liver can bounce back,

987
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: but it also like cannot if you kind of beat

988
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: it up too much. Yeah, and then you really got

989
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: to take it easy for a minute.

990
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: And that's why we're we're so proud to partner with

991
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: Athletic Brewing Light half off now at code Amy wine

992
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: House Celebrity Booklet.

993
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: I like to mix my non alcoholic Athletic Brewing with

994
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of Fuchia bruto tomorrow for damn January. Okay,

995
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: who are you in the book Okay, I mean you're

996
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: you are Amy, but you're also Amy. Yeah, you're Amy,

997
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: but also not you're also like the girls making fun

998
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: of her like not in school.

999
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: No, I would have been desperate to be friends with her,

1000
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: actually thought she was so Yeah, I've been like a

1001
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: crush on him, and I'd be like, let's listen to records.

1002
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: Do you want to come to my house? Listen? Because

1003
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm Amy. As we said, like lists, Collage's badasstro.

1004
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: You're more lists than Collage, though I'm not as Collage.

1005
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: Now you're yeah, for sure, and.

1006
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: You're more in dude, and everyone knows and everyone knows that.

1007
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: But and again, I'm you called me out. I came

1008
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: in here being like, I'm the biggest Samy white husband,

1009
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: and you're Amy in the sense that you're just like

1010
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: fuck Huie, and I'm like, and you're being like, why

1011
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: my brothers.

1012
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 2: I want a guy with like glasses in a Scottish.

1013
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: Accent, And you're like, wait, but why, Like, while my

1014
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: brother's friends like me I'm too young.

1015
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Why I'm secretly like trying to find ways to make

1016
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: my boyfriend's eyesight worse so he has to work classes.

1017
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: You're also just like a girl working at Marks and Spencer,

1018
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: like helping her.

1019
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: Shop shop for tropical wedges. All right, So I don't

1020
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: know how I give this book. I love Amy Winehouse.

1021
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: I love that doc about her. I don't know.

1022
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: I love the doc way more than this book. The dad.

1023
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: I don't love that. This book is like so clearly

1024
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: trying to rehabilitate the reputation of the parents.

1025
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: So also really this in this home goods way.

1026
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: But the big quotes, Yeah, the big quotes, and those

1027
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: quotes are just from like inner views with her, Like

1028
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: it'll intersperse with the kind of cool scans of the

1029
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: notes and drawings like we'll just be these yeah, more

1030
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: home goods coded like handwriting quotes of just her.

1031
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like her notes.

1032
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: On ric comes to fashion. I'm a bit you know,

1033
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 2: it's attractive on a girl, a girl being herself, don't

1034
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: be one of the crowd. And that's so true. It's

1035
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: so just like you could see that quote like on

1036
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: a makeup bag.

1037
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 3: Right being sold like discount and two j max. Yeah,

1038
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: it's a gosh crab it is. I kind of give

1039
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: this coffee tail book a two point five crack pipes

1040
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: because it's really fun and like cool to read her

1041
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: like lyrics and they're beautiful, and her notes and her

1042
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 3: silly little drawings and serious drawings, but like the dads

1043
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: asides being like Amy loved daddy and mommy and that's

1044
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: why she got tattoos.

1045
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: And I think it would have been interesting to have,

1046
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: you know, more ephemera in here, like not just these

1047
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: little notes, but like maybe there could be other stuff,

1048
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: like I want to see the receipt from like the

1049
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: from the wedges. I want a receipt of her and Blake,

1050
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: like having Stella's at the pub on the night that

1051
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: they got like married and then they liked whatever.

1052
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like like the doc that shows you kind

1053
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: of more everything versus this.

1054
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: I give this also two point five rolls of tinfoil.

1055
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: If you know, you know so bad.

1056
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: That's like, we don't know, but Amy, we love you,

1057
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: we miss you, we miss you, come back to.

1058
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: Okay. Wait, can I ask one question? Was there something

1059
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: in the beehive to hold it up or was it

1060
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,959
Speaker 2: just her hair?

1061
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 4: No?

1062
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 3: I think you do need something in the behive to

1063
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: hold it up.

1064
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: There is some sort of like an object in there

1065
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: that's been wrapped around or.

1066
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: It's like wrapped around and lots of like clips holding

1067
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: it up.

1068
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean there's definitely a clip in there, but it

1069
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: just looks the volume just to just be pure hair,

1070
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: like is there a cone? That's what I'm wondering. But

1071
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: then I'm like, you feel like people would have talked

1072
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: about that more so sound off of.

1073
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: Your hair if you yeah, or if you've ever done

1074
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: a beehive?

1075
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 4: All right, best Like this podcast was actually produced by

1076
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 4: this right bird Christina ever mate met her in Shortitch.

1077
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that reminds me. It's also supervised so

1078
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: far who we met in Camden. Yeah, and we like

1079
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 3: he played like drums right.

1080
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: And he was knackered off his old mate. He was

1081
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: completely pissed.

1082
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: And then it's really fit.

1083
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 4: Birby produced its production of White Yeah, a little shop

1084
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 4: out there.

1085
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: It's like proper calm and.

1086
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 3: She's doing a billy olish record. Actually that's what she's

1087
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 3: up to. Yeah, yeah, the music though seen Philip's Horse.

1088
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: I think that this was his only song. He like retired.

1089
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: He lives like one hit one day, Matt he said,

1090
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: like a radio shot a Chelsea.

1091
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well Teddy Blanks blank fucking Tate modern.

1092
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: Ass proper, proper he needs a solo show mat Yeah

1093
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 4: he does.

1094
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh right, make this podcast. Originally pro Poject.

1095
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did the stuff mate, kind of birth Vibes,

1096
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: and then there.

1097
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: Was WAT Studios.

1098
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 4: Yes, was recorded at Abbey Road and mixed at Electric Lady.

1099
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: That's it.

1100
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: That's it, mate, sort off, sort off,