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Speaker 1: But on on draft night, mama was I mean, dad

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Speaker 2: It was also she was excited, but like you said,

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Speaker 3: Yea, the party let the tears out.

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Speaker 4: So is it safe to say your mama's boy, It's okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit of both, yea, yeah, a little

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Speaker 2: bit of both. I wouldn't say I'm too much of

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Speaker 3: Fifty attitude atude.

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Speaker 2: Now, my dad notionaliant, So I get a little bit

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Speaker 1: Don't want tell you those funny man and you do

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Speaker 1: Here be an asshole now, yeah, as he should be.

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Speaker 1: No here, asshole, No friends.

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Speaker 4: If I give you one piece of advice, don't help

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Speaker 4: don't be helping. No, you're not out there for that.

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Speaker 4: After the game we could just shake hands and talk. Man,

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Speaker 4: I'm not out here to be helping you up. Guess

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Speaker 4: what every time he follow you got to get up.

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Speaker 3: That take energy.

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Speaker 4: That's my for forty eight minutes. If you got to

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Speaker 4: have to get up fifteen times, why would you help

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Speaker 4: him up? I slapped you. Go over to help somebody up,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, y'a colpeeding you. You don't want to be helping

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Speaker 3: Don't lose that asshold. Yeah, you lose, you lose that.

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Speaker 3: You lose me. It gets me, It gets me going

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you a question. Being on the

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Speaker 4: in the green room, Like Michael, tell me about it.

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Speaker 1: We will, We'll tell you about it. We'll actually tell

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Speaker 4: So when you're sitting in that green room with him,

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Speaker 4: you're getting phone calls from different players, you're getting phone

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Speaker 4: calls from different organizations. When you finally get to call

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Speaker 4: them right away. Yeah, okay, I hadn't know.

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Speaker 3: I thought you might wait for what happened.

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Speaker 1: What happens though, is like literally and when you're in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't What happened.

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Speaker 1: What happens that those cameras come over there on the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, before y'all even know, the cameras has already told us.

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Speaker 3: Then you get the call exactly right then you tell cool.

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Speaker 4: So if he didn't tell you that, if you ain't

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Speaker 3: You ain't get that called about.

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Speaker 2: Job to do.

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Speaker 3: It's like you got a job to do.

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Speaker 4: He can't tell you if you don't get buckets, and

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Speaker 4: that can't do nothing for you if he ain't doing

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Speaker 3: I'm telling noth thing as an agent.

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Speaker 4: Tell you this. No, let me tell you something that's agent.

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Speaker 4: A lot of agents like to give us advice, but

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Speaker 4: You my agent, you're an advisor for me.

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Speaker 4: A lot of young fellas you come into this situation

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Speaker 4: like I get it. Some of these things are good.

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Speaker 4: But some of these things you need to learn on y'awnbody.

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Speaker 4: Some of these steps you need to take on your own.

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Speaker 4: You need to fall, you need to get up, you

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Speaker 4: No listen, some of these things you do need to

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Speaker 1: But but at the end of the day, what you

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Speaker 3: But you need just a little backstory. He came. I

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Speaker 1: Couple of years ago, coming to summer leagues and watching

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Speaker 1: That's whereas mine was. Then, talk about all that stuff

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Speaker 3: But you put a lot of stuff into this. Man.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the kind of the enjoyment of hearing your

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Speaker 2: And it was crazy, Definitely one of those things you'll

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Speaker 3: It's like it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: So hearing your name called is something that you will

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Speaker 3: And then the next.

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Speaker 2: Two years you out of there. So just continue to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely crazy, and just trying to live

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Speaker 1: I think one thing you need just to touch on there,

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Speaker 1: It's not about getting there's about staying there. Yes, that

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Speaker 1: same thing. I've seen a lot of talented walk through

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be here, yes, yes, So keep that mindset

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Speaker 1: because that's the biggest thing, right It's not about getting there.

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Speaker 1: a big ass contract and you got to prove that.

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Speaker 1: But you got to understand the process is the best part.

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Speaker 4: And I love the process and the best part about

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Speaker 4: and it's always like me, yeah that you didn't get drafted.

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Speaker 5: That's looking for opportunity. I guess after the summer league

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Speaker 5: an opportunity. You know what I'm saying. Just I guess

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Speaker 3: So you're not.

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Speaker 4: Playing against you, your your your opponents, you're playing against yourself.

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Speaker 4: Youve got to stand it for yourself and you hold

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Speaker 4: yourself to a standard that has nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: nobody else. Before the coach tail you play like you

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Speaker 4: didn't already tell yourself time. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He shouldn't have to tell you nothing. But I think

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Speaker 4: because everything I'm hearing about Mike, I'm listening to what

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Speaker 4: Because when I look back at the guys that came

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Speaker 4: that mental toughness. They've had the physical toughness too, but

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Speaker 4: it's just a list of Chicago guys and they all

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Speaker 4: what's in the war in Chicago? I got it. Y'all

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just kind of like Chicago. It ain't

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Speaker 2: So I feel like everybody that you just they a

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Speaker 2: that's that's the goal. A lot of people do get there.

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Speaker 2: A lot of talents that people get there and they

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Speaker 2: you just had something crazy like you was undrafted.

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Speaker 3: It's people coming for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta know they coming for you. So staying

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Speaker 4: Like that's what I'm saying, your fuck you gotta know

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Speaker 4: what motherfucker. Let me sitting at home watch your TV,

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Speaker 4: shopping and my knife. I see I didn't get drafted.

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Speaker 4: I want my opportunity to gets him, and you got

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Speaker 4: to you got to make sure I ain't you want. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you might pick somebody else, you won't jack. You know,

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Speaker 4: after about two Pia rolls you poppins as I ain't

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Speaker 3: Man, you ain't made it.

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Speaker 4: You think I mean people outside think you made it.

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Speaker 4: To yourself mentally, you ain't. You make nothing. This is

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Speaker 4: is just the beginning. I've scratched the curtain. You just

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But you got your seat at the table.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: It's cool to be at the table. But I don't

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Speaker 4: gonna have that opportunity. You're gonna right now. Everything for you,

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Speaker 4: and I know it sound like I'm apreciing, but everything

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: That film room and all that you're going through, don't

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Speaker 4: Please don't worry about your scoring. Don't worry about your

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Speaker 4: right reads? You damn sure did. When they went under,

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Speaker 4: you might cross back and twist it. Now, you might

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Speaker 4: So all this is just a progression of this that

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