Speaker 1: I don't think anyone I know personally has been out
Speaker 1: there protesting, But I don't understand why it escalated to
Speaker 1: the point where we are sending out Marines National Guard
Speaker 1: for a peaceful protest.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand, of all of the things to
Speaker 2: send resources for, this is this is not?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 4: Such a dramatic response to a peaceful protest just has
Speaker 4: me feeling, you know, like the dictatorship vibe when they
Speaker 4: cracked on on any little, any little noise, any little pete.
Speaker 4: I'm cracking down on you. So you see what's gonna
Speaker 4: happen if you ever try to do anything big.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey va fam, Welcome back to the Brown Table
Speaker 1: my Wednesday show. Have you all noticed that we air
Speaker 1: three times a week now? And when I say we,
Speaker 1: I mean we. I just wanted why do I have
Speaker 1: three shows?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Well, first let me tell you what the three shows are.
Speaker 1: For those who are new, for those who have recently
Speaker 1: found us, we got our Monday episode. Monday is where
Speaker 1: I'm calling it Monday Motivation. So we have our interviews
Speaker 1: with illustrious guests such Jazz We recently, oh gosh, we've
Speaker 1: had so many great guests recently. We've had Zarda Garg
Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling author and comedian. We've had Cebo Campbell,
Speaker 1: best selling author of the Brown Ambition book club pick
Speaker 1: for June Sky Full of Elephants. We just had Rachel
Speaker 1: Laier doctor, sorry, doctor Rachel Laia, the author of the
Speaker 1: new book Black Capitalism, which I'll got to check out.
Speaker 1: So that's our Monday episode. And Wednesday is my baby.
Speaker 1: My favorite is the Brown Tables where we get together
Speaker 1: with some friends of the show, friends of mine, friends
Speaker 1: of the show, and we just chat. We chat about
Speaker 1: what's happening in the world, what's going on in pop culture,
Speaker 1: what's going on in your pockets and our pockets. And
Speaker 1: this is a first. I have three first time Brown
Speaker 1: Table guests on the show. I think we might explode
Speaker 1: from the melanin magic right now, like I don't. And
Speaker 1: then on Friday we're going to do our ba q
Speaker 1: and a. So that's what we have going for you.
Speaker 1: Don't forget Brown Ambition, fam I just launch the patreons
Speaker 1: if you want details and how you can join the
Speaker 1: Patreon and get actually live front row seats to Brown
Speaker 1: Table recordings with your membership and the book club and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You can check the show notes or
Speaker 1: go to patreon dot com slash Brown Ambition and without
Speaker 1: further azoo, I want to introduce you to my guest
Speaker 1: today who. Let's go in alphabetical order. Let's start with
Speaker 1: you alexas say hey, Toda. Alex is like, dame it.
Speaker 4: No, I'm happy. I'm happy. I just knew it. I
Speaker 4: was like, I know I'm gonna start first.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna start well, too bad.
Speaker 4: I love it. Oh good, hello everyone. I'm so happy
Speaker 4: to be here. I've been part of the BAFM for
Speaker 4: a minute, but only as a listener, So getting to
Speaker 4: join today, as you know, just being on the other
Speaker 4: side has been I well, I know it's going to
Speaker 4: be great, but it is awesome just to be here
Speaker 4: in general seeing you all. My name is Alexa Claire
Speaker 4: or Alexa Brooks Major is the full name. I work
Speaker 4: as the content and duction manager at the Financial Diet,
Speaker 4: a finance media company all about supporting women with their finances,
Speaker 4: their personal finances and finding really dynamic ways to share
Speaker 4: content about how your personal finances are very much an
Speaker 4: introducesciplinary situation right like they're very much like aligned with
Speaker 4: so many different parts of your life, and so we
Speaker 4: do a lot of work on making sure that women
Speaker 4: are aware of that and how to best support themselves
Speaker 4: in that. And I'm really happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1: Love it And you're in New York, right, Alexa.
Speaker 4: I am for the next two months. I am in
Speaker 4: New York, although I am typically DC based.
Speaker 3: Where are you going?
Speaker 4: I well, what do you mean where am I going?
Speaker 1: You're going back to DC, U said, you may sound
Speaker 1: like you're moving.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm only here for a quick little sublet
Speaker 4: helping a friend out. I sow Yap said, would you
Speaker 4: come here for a little bit. I'm like, yes, of
Speaker 4: course I will. You don't have to ask me twice.
Speaker 4: Come to New York. Absolutely, But it's only for two months,
Speaker 4: and then she has to take it back. I can't
Speaker 4: steal my friend's sublet. I mean, that'd be a terreact.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that just keep that Renter mindset in mind
Speaker 1: for when we get to our question today, because it's
Speaker 1: a doozy okay, gotcha? All right, Alexa, Financial Diet. Everyone
Speaker 1: loves that brand, big huge YouTube brand. All right, let's
Speaker 1: see I know that why definitely comes last in the alphabet,
Speaker 1: so we only skip to John Quillan.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, I am John Glen Hill. I am the
Speaker 5: host of Explain It to Me, a podcast from vox
Speaker 5: where we answer listener questions we get. We get a
Speaker 5: lot of economic questions and personal finance questions, which Mandy,
Speaker 5: I'm sure is no surprise to you. You've been on tape.
Speaker 3: I've been on it.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. Your voice probably sounds familiar to
Speaker 1: some BA fan if they listen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, I'm based in DC and so
Speaker 5: out here answering questions for the folks, trying to get them.
Speaker 1: So you're in DC, okay, So you and Alexakim be pals.
Speaker 3: I went to Howard and state out here.
Speaker 5: That's probably the longest I've gone without like mentioning the
Speaker 5: fact that I went to Howard because, like most Howard alum,
Speaker 5: I'm annoying about it.
Speaker 1: But how are we gonna know if you don't let
Speaker 1: us know. You know what I mean, It's in the slogan.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta know that's also true.
Speaker 5: But it's like people are like, uh, of course you did,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I'm so sorry, We're not just like
Speaker 5: this like something.
Speaker 1: Deservedly so deservedly so all right, welcome. How long have
Speaker 1: you been at vox Strongkoland by the way, Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: now we can call you JQ.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well John one JQ. They're interchangeable. I've been here
Speaker 5: since twenty twenty two. It's gonna be three years. Actually,
Speaker 5: I think I've hit the three year mark. Now, Oh okay,
Speaker 5: let me know. If you get in a little three
Speaker 5: year itch, I can help you out. Media girlies.
Speaker 1: All right, Evie Saint Luis, welcome your turn.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I'm so excited to be here, especially with
Speaker 2: all these lovely ladies.
Speaker 6: So my name is Evie Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: I'm the VP of Digital Operations and Strategy at Blavity.
Speaker 2: So Blavity we serve We're a huge media company. We
Speaker 2: serve black millennials and gen z. Some of the platforms
Speaker 2: that you all probably have seen include Travel Noir, Blavity
Speaker 2: twenty one ninety, Travel Noir, so, lots of amazing platforms
Speaker 2: that we are serving a lot of the brown ambition audience.
Speaker 1: So I'm at the forefront of black culture. Did you
Speaker 1: go to the BET Awards last night or the night before?
Speaker 1: When was it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 6: I did not?
Speaker 3: That was Oh.
Speaker 1: Goodness, So you and I met. I love how I met,
Speaker 1: so JQ. You asked me to be on your podcast.
Speaker 1: That's how we met. That's fun. Alexa. I adopted her
Speaker 1: from Actually there's a connection with Blavity because Alexa and
Speaker 1: I both went to Morgan's book, a CEO of Blavity.
Speaker 1: Morgan her new book, Rewrite the Rules.
Speaker 4: Go Get It.
Speaker 1: We met at her book launch party in New York.
Speaker 4: Who did?
Speaker 1: And then I adopted you?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that big small you wars took
Speaker 4: me right.
Speaker 1: In my big social ingnxiety, like just going with a
Speaker 1: smile and say hi, it works. And then I just
Speaker 1: adopt new friends. And alexas like, wait, we were with
Speaker 1: your friends. I'm like, yeah, No, when I make a friend,
Speaker 1: I make a friend. I that's it. I'll bring you
Speaker 1: chicken soup when you're sick, like what you want? You know, Like,
Speaker 1: I go there and Evie we sat next to each other.
Speaker 1: We met at the We met at Afrotech last year
Speaker 1: for the first time. You're newly wed? Is that right?
Speaker 6: I am? I guess now is it still newly wet?
Speaker 2: It's been seven ish with some moth October to June,
Speaker 2: so whatever that is, it's under a year.
Speaker 6: So I guess it's still newly wet.
Speaker 1: I guess, Oh yeah, I mean I hope so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean for your sake, like I mean,
Speaker 1: we all go through our rough patches at different times,
Speaker 1: but I mean, like you still like him.
Speaker 3: I hope, yes, I still like him.
Speaker 6: We were still here, We're still growing strong.
Speaker 1: So and where are you based? Ev?
Speaker 6: I'm in Brooklyn, Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: East Coast Girlies today. I love it. And I'm Mandy
Speaker 1: Money blah blah blah. Y'all know me. I'm here, I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm your host. I'm in New York too. Let's get
Speaker 1: into it. There's been so much happening, and I kind
Speaker 1: of stress save myself, like clip a little like links
Speaker 1: and I'll DM myself, I'll slack myself, I'll email myself, like,
Speaker 1: don't forget to talk about this, don't forget to talk
Speaker 1: about that. But what has been for y'all? Right now,
Speaker 1: I have my list, but I want to know, like
Speaker 1: what has been? And y'all are all in media, what's
Speaker 1: been like the headline of the week for y'all the
Speaker 1: past week that seems to be having the girlies talk?
Speaker 5: Ooh ooh, Okay, I feel like it's changed because at
Speaker 5: one point it was all like, oh my god, the
Speaker 5: bromance between Elon Musk and President Trump is ended, and
Speaker 5: then LA happened, and it was like, just kidding, that
Speaker 5: is not the top news anymore.
Speaker 1: I think it was a stunt just to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Which part I think that people were so obsessed with
Speaker 1: the Real Housewife drama of Donald Trump and Elon Musk
Speaker 1: going each other's through roads on Twitter or whatever social
Speaker 1: media they used that that Trump was. Trump's team was like,
Speaker 1: we got to do something. Let's just deploy the National Guard.
Speaker 1: Let's get some anybody. Can we get the Marines? Can
Speaker 1: we get can we get the military to La.
Speaker 4: To can can we get them some good one line
Speaker 4: to what was it? He said, He's like if they
Speaker 4: if they hit, will if they spit, will hit something.
Speaker 1: He said, who said that?
Speaker 4: Did you guys hear? But Trump said? Trump said that.
Speaker 4: He said that if the protesters like spit at the
Speaker 4: officers or anything like that, it'll give the officers reason
Speaker 4: to hit something like that. I absolutely read that as
Speaker 4: CNN or CBS one of those you need to get
Speaker 4: a one liner going. It was really what like that
Speaker 4: whole like offering a whole Uh what's it called distraction?
Speaker 4: That Trump versus what.
Speaker 6: A world we live in?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What? What a what a concept? I just can't even imagine.
Speaker 2: I mean even I mean you mentioned bet earlier on right,
Speaker 2: and how that's also in LA and so she did
Speaker 2: a really good job of you know, shedding light and
Speaker 2: bring that to also a huge thing that the girls
Speaker 2: are talking about and performances and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: But it's just so interesting, how like how do we
Speaker 6: get here? Why are we here again? Oh?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, it was just you know, two hundreds and
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: In It's Musk's fault. It's all his fault.
Speaker 1: In America's Wait. So I have not had a chance
Speaker 1: to I just got back from London. Flex now flex
Speaker 1: and see.
Speaker 3: But I'm wearing my new cat all the did you
Speaker 3: have beans on toes?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 3: You saw Beyonce, That's why you were there?
Speaker 1: Yes, God, I am. I'm like two weeks late to
Speaker 1: the Beyonce glow, like the Beyonce cowwait carter for discourse,
Speaker 1: because of course y'all, y'all don't seen her in all
Speaker 1: the majors that he's in the US so far.
Speaker 3: Oh no, she hasn't come to DC yet. I'm also waiting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's doing the She's doing the July fourth show here.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to do. Oh America.
Speaker 1: See that's oh yes, I saw her in London, all
Speaker 1: the Londoners. There's so I didn't realize how just how
Speaker 1: like rational and logical everyone in Britain is, because the
Speaker 1: number one question we got was but didn't didn't she
Speaker 1: just play in America? Wasn't she just in New York?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Fun.
Speaker 5: We thought we would do fun. I have a fun trick, like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I can't travel right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was so it was amazing. I went
Speaker 1: with a couple of girlfriends and my long long time
Speaker 1: college boyfriend, not boyfriend, Baron Brown, who he and I
Speaker 1: had gone to Renaissance a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to be in for an
Speaker 1: incredible show because Renaissance. I still have this like glow
Speaker 1: in my chest from that experience and how in credible
Speaker 1: it felt. And I'm just like Beyonce says, like I
Speaker 1: got everything I paid for, truly it rained.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like all of the stuff, I mean
Speaker 2: it was heavily on like TikTok and everywhere on social media.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like any of that had any impact
Speaker 2: on your perform like your experience there?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't really. I wasn't watching clips. I knew
Speaker 1: if I saw some outfits, it wouldn't matter because she
Speaker 1: changes them up anyway. Like I saw some clips and
Speaker 1: my brother took his surprise as girlfriend with because he's
Speaker 1: the best, and surprised her with a trip to Cali
Speaker 1: to see her in la and so I had seen
Speaker 1: some of the effects and stuff, but you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't I really didn't feel like it mattered. And I
Speaker 1: had gotten these tickets. It's so funny because like half
Speaker 1: my friends who went there like in their forties. I
Speaker 1: have one friend and it was like some of her
Speaker 1: college friends and then me and Baron, And when we
Speaker 1: were getting tickets, it became very clear that not everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to stand for three hours. So yeah, so my
Speaker 1: my other friends they got seats, they got great seats,
Speaker 1: but in the in the in the stands. But I
Speaker 1: had been so lucky. I went with my former co
Speaker 1: host Tiffany last time and through one of her connections,
Speaker 1: we got upgraded to the pit like what was a
Speaker 1: club renaissance, which is like the standing room only section
Speaker 1: next to the stage, And it was magical and just
Speaker 1: the have met and just like Beyonce's like I just
Speaker 1: remember her performing Break my Soul like right in front
Speaker 1: of me, and I was like, okay, we're doing that again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's run it back, Let's do that again.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Spent like the again the cost of like a small
Speaker 1: home appliance on tickets, but this time the stage.
Speaker 4: Is set up.
Speaker 1: Did y'all go to Renaissance?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, yes, I mean I'm just I'm leaving. I'm
Speaker 1: holding spings for those of you who are not Beyonce
Speaker 1: fanatics like me, but we all be Hive.
Speaker 4: Of course I am.
Speaker 5: I've been, like I've been a fan since like no no, no, no,
Speaker 5: no Part two, Like it just her career makes me
Speaker 5: think of my childhood. And I also think I don't
Speaker 5: think this is a hot take. I think every generation
Speaker 5: has the ones in a lifetime performer, and I do
Speaker 5: think she is our greatest living performer. Like are there
Speaker 5: people you know? And people like there are people who
Speaker 5: sing better? I mean, I'm like, yeah, technically, but she
Speaker 5: sounds the way she does in the studio, she's dancing,
Speaker 5: she's giving you a show. I think she is arguably
Speaker 5: our greatest living entertainer right now.
Speaker 1: I have no argument.
Speaker 4: There's something so powerful and enjoyable about watching someone, specifically
Speaker 4: a black woman, do exactly what she was meant to do,
Speaker 4: and to do it on such an international, just global
Speaker 4: stage where no one can say can look at her
Speaker 4: and say you don't work hard, No one can look
Speaker 4: at her and say you didn't put your rolliet this.
Speaker 4: That alone, no matter how we feel about her vocal
Speaker 4: ability or anything else, like that speaks above everything else
Speaker 4: to me. And there's something about watching someone do that
Speaker 4: that is so like I can't help but respect you.
Speaker 4: I can't help but cheer you on. Do I have
Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars for your concert tickets? Maybe not? Maybe not,
Speaker 4: But you will never see me say a negative word
Speaker 4: about you you want social media or anywhere else like,
Speaker 4: I will support what you do.
Speaker 6: Have I agree?
Speaker 2: I think like her work ethic, it doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: you do, what industry that you are in, or whatever,
Speaker 2: like you have got to be inspired by this woman
Speaker 2: and what this black woman and what she's able to
Speaker 2: do and accomplish, and also just how much work she
Speaker 2: puts into it to be this.
Speaker 6: You know, I think JQ you mentioned it.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I agree the probably one of the best performance
Speaker 2: of our time, right like singing, dancing, walking in rain.
Speaker 6: All the if your vocals are still they're so vocaling,
Speaker 6: you know, I.
Speaker 2: Just you just can't. It doesn't matter what how you're
Speaker 2: in or or whatever. You have to be inspired by her.
Speaker 1: You have to just appreciate the artistry. You have to
Speaker 1: actively not want to be inspired. And those people I
Speaker 1: choose not to associate with because why would you choose?
Speaker 1: Why would you choose to not enjoy that that sunshine?
Speaker 1: It's like people who stay inside on a beautiful day,
Speaker 1: Like that's your choice, but like why would why would
Speaker 1: you not choose to stand in the sun? Because that
Speaker 1: is what she is. And you know, I got I
Speaker 1: got back from the concert my dad. My dad's heavily.
Speaker 1: Do your parents send you Facebook Facebook links that you
Speaker 1: know are going to have, like you know, like conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories and yeah, I get you get them via What's Up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So my dad sent me some link and it was
Speaker 1: about how it was some like conspiracy theory slash like
Speaker 1: religious bru haha, about like how Beyonce fans they suffer
Speaker 1: from amnesia after a concert because we're so emotionally excited.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, okay, but it's like also,
Speaker 1: you know, demon symbols and people, you know, celebrating false
Speaker 1: idols and all that kind of stuff. But when I
Speaker 1: tell you, I truly and there's worse things to worship
Speaker 1: then an extension of the Lord himself. Artists like Beyonce
Speaker 1: are vessels. I'm not even that religious, but like you
Speaker 1: really feel like, oh, she's here for a bigger purpose.
Speaker 1: She is a vessel from you know, God is love,
Speaker 1: is what I believe, and she is a vessel of love,
Speaker 1: and it's just so why would you deny that? It
Speaker 1: feels so good? And I remember all the staff at
Speaker 1: the stadium were saying how Beyonce fans are the nicest
Speaker 1: and how we just bring such great vibes. And I
Speaker 1: believe it because she just exudes love and her babies
Speaker 1: are on stage and and the I won't spoil it
Speaker 1: for you, JQ and Evie and Alexa.
Speaker 3: Are you going to see her or have you already
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm going to. I want to, but yeah,
Speaker 4: some last night its online there.
Speaker 5: I was about to say, there's that girl who is
Speaker 5: on TikTok and she will buy her concert tickets on
Speaker 5: the way to the concert and get them for like
Speaker 5: significantly less.
Speaker 4: Exactly what you were talking about. You see. It's the
Speaker 4: older sister OCD part of me. The anxiety is I
Speaker 4: the idea of getting fully dressed up going out there
Speaker 4: and like not knowing for sure that I will have
Speaker 4: the space for me that I'll get in. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna try. I'll try. But like you guys,
Speaker 4: you don't have to understand the anxiety that is like
Speaker 4: my biggest opponent here.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: London weather was weathering. It was like full on it
Speaker 1: was raining, it was cold, but I was still in
Speaker 1: my denim shorts and I were like I was I
Speaker 1: just knew I was gonna be I was in the
Speaker 1: honeybucking pit and I was like, gonna be surrounded by bodies.
Speaker 1: It's going to be great. And it rained at the
Speaker 1: most like perfect points. It rained at the beginning and
Speaker 1: it just kind of like drizzled and she's in the rain.
Speaker 1: It's just made everything. And at the end, when she's
Speaker 1: doing her closing number, it started to rain again. And
Speaker 1: you know, I won't spoil the closing number. I did
Speaker 1: keep the set list a secret for myself. But god,
Speaker 1: like when she's singing and you know she has the visuals,
Speaker 1: the visuals. I remember the visuals from Renaissance, but I
Speaker 1: think the visuals from this tour are exceptional. Like we
Speaker 1: were all just glued to the screen, and some of
Speaker 1: the visuals full on ugly tears, full on ugly. You
Speaker 1: might be able to imagine the points in which me
Speaker 1: a mom cried, but it was it was just, it
Speaker 1: was everything. And I booked myself a massage the next
Speaker 1: morning because I knew my legs were going.
Speaker 3: To be so so smart. It was very smart.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, of course, yeah Rumy each one or
Speaker 1: was it just a couple? I think everyone, Yeah, Rumy
Speaker 1: came out for a little bit and oh my god,
Speaker 1: Blue Blue seeing her growth like, blew me away, blew
Speaker 1: everybody away, got the biggest applause. She was such a
Speaker 1: big girl.
Speaker 5: But I'm also like, that's that baby that was in
Speaker 5: her belly at the VMA's what is time?
Speaker 4: Am I old?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Isn't it incredible? And it's just but that's what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what you mean. JQ by the artist of our time,
Speaker 1: because even her children are becoming like we all feel
Speaker 1: like Auntie's Like I truly feel like I'm Blue's Auntie.
Speaker 1: Like anything she needs, I'll be there. No one's ever
Speaker 1: calling me for her, but like I would be there
Speaker 1: for her, and uh and she's just a kid and anyway,
Speaker 1: just you just feel the love and that and if
Speaker 1: I can just like carry an ounce of that energy
Speaker 1: with me and share that with the world like that
Speaker 1: is that is an accomplishment. So yeah, go see it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to convince y'all. But that's fine.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm there, I'm I'm there. What am I gonna wear?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: I want I'll be there. I got my hat the
Speaker 1: day before or from like TJ Max. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna post something about it. It's like this, like what
Speaker 1: do you like? There's like the sun hats that are
Speaker 1: like a cowboy hat, but they're like made out of
Speaker 1: mesh or something. They're folded bowl and it was raining
Speaker 1: right and it wasn't just raining, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm dancing, I'm pulling my hair, I'm pet in the hat,
Speaker 1: I'm swinging the hat. I'm like getting into it. By
Speaker 1: the way, I think I was on screen for like
Speaker 1: point five seconds. One of my friends that she's all made,
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, you were going bang bang bait.
Speaker 3: But my hat.
Speaker 1: By the end of the concert, I can't even use
Speaker 1: these photos. The hat is so flat. It just looks
Speaker 1: like someone's old, rusty, like old dead shoe on my
Speaker 1: head was not cute anymore. And then yeah, I got
Speaker 1: on the plane and I catch you up on news
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, la protests, oh elon mu. I
Speaker 1: really had not been clocked into the whole Elon versus
Speaker 1: Trump of it all.
Speaker 3: It happened very quickly.
Speaker 5: I feel like it went from we're good to we're
Speaker 5: not good, very very fast.
Speaker 1: And then it just but then it got and then
Speaker 1: it went poof like they haven't really been beefing online,
Speaker 1: Like do you think that they have met and they
Speaker 1: have both said I got dirt on you, you got dirt
Speaker 1: on me. We got to cut this out.
Speaker 5: I don't even know if it's so much that as
Speaker 5: much as just like they both kind of need each
Speaker 5: other in interesting ways.
Speaker 3: Like Elon Musk is a huge donor.
Speaker 5: He the way he funded that campaign and even the
Speaker 5: judge election in Wisconsin, I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, other elections. The whole Republican Party needs that man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then Trump has the big following it. Just
Speaker 5: I think it's it's a relationship that they can government contract. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they both benefit from the relationship. So it's a thing
Speaker 5: of like, Okay, maybe we actually should keep this cute.
Speaker 3: Plus they have lots of mutual friends.
Speaker 5: I think it's that thing of I don't know, if
Speaker 5: you like, if a friend breakup and you have so
Speaker 5: many mutual friends, where like people.
Speaker 3: Are like you, guys, this is not you, Like you
Speaker 3: got to keep.
Speaker 5: A chill, Like you're both gonna be at the birthday dinner.
Speaker 4: You have to.
Speaker 3: And I think it's that sort of situation, but just
Speaker 3: with much higher stakes.
Speaker 2: I think they're both very high egos here, right, Like
Speaker 2: very very high egos. So I could see a world
Speaker 2: where they're both kind of like super stubborn and like
Speaker 2: oh I did this, or like Elon said this, so
Speaker 2: I'm not going to you know, like I could definitely
Speaker 2: see a world where they draw this out a little
Speaker 2: bit more right, or they just like never get back
Speaker 2: and they just continue doing this to each other.
Speaker 6: So I don't know, that's just my thoughts.
Speaker 4: I think it'll go into being a bunch of little
Speaker 4: mini transgressions moving forward, like you see them in front
Speaker 4: of each other, and like Trump refuses to acknowledge him,
Speaker 4: like looking at him, or you know, Elon's like that
Speaker 4: guy instead of saying President Trump like just the small
Speaker 4: things that for themselves feed their own egos and whatnot,
Speaker 4: but aren't going to absolutely we roptued the relationship that
Speaker 4: they need to have continue.
Speaker 1: I think Trump, I mean, I think Elon needs to
Speaker 1: release the Epstein file that he said, or like the dirt,
Speaker 1: because didn't he say that Trump is in the Epstein
Speaker 1: files in it. Jamale Hill had my you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't really into the beef. My friend is very she's
Speaker 1: very she works with the government, she's very into it.
Speaker 3: And she was just like, did you see this what
Speaker 3: he said?
Speaker 1: Da da da, And I just I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: watch these childre there's bigger things like going on in
Speaker 1: the world. But she sent me. What was funny was
Speaker 1: the reactions from Twitter because black twitter never failed. Oh
Speaker 1: now Twitter was a great day that day, and now
Speaker 1: it's black threads. I don't I don't do I don't
Speaker 1: do X, I don't do Twitter, but I'm on threads
Speaker 1: and I think Jamale Hill had my favorite. She had
Speaker 1: like a meme of the Kendrick meme for the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl where he's smiling, you know, and it was like
Speaker 1: Elon to Trump because he's basically calling Trump.
Speaker 5: Yeah you know what, Well, he he did delete the post.
Speaker 1: He did. Indeed he deleted that one.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I think he did. Yeah about the Epstein, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he went back and to lead some posts.
Speaker 5: So I think I think they were. They were probably
Speaker 5: having some conversations online. It would not surprise me.
Speaker 1: You mean offline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I meant. They're having conversations offline.
Speaker 1: You think he's getting threatened, I mean not. I mean
Speaker 1: I know that Elon's has money, but Trump literally is
Speaker 1: the commander of the free world. Like he has money, power,
Speaker 1: he has military, he got CIA, he got black ops,
Speaker 1: like he can do whatever he wants. I would not
Speaker 1: be messing around Elon. Musk might get your ass deported
Speaker 1: back to South Africa. Could be good for us. Did
Speaker 1: we not hate him? We hate him?
Speaker 3: Right, we hate him?
Speaker 1: Get him out? But it's like, who do we hate more?
Speaker 1: Do we want?
Speaker 5: We do?
Speaker 1: Want Elon to stick around so that he can give
Speaker 1: us enough dirt on Trump so that he's finally like
Speaker 1: done or is Elon the bigger threat.
Speaker 5: If I learned anything during the first Trump administration, it's
Speaker 5: expect the unexpected. You just never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: It's just there's no way to get a sense. You
Speaker 5: can like guess how the reactions are gonna be. But
Speaker 5: I mean, it really is a who's to say?
Speaker 1: People?
Speaker 4: Wait, can I actually I want to I want to
Speaker 4: push back there a little bit expecting unexpected because I
Speaker 4: feel like Trump, every single thing this man has said
Speaker 4: he's gonna do is what he does. As ridiculous as
Speaker 4: it is, is what he does. So is it like
Speaker 4: it's like it's more like, in my opinion, expect exactly
Speaker 4: what he says he's gonna Yeah, yeah, I think policy wise,
Speaker 4: tell me he come back at me. No, I think
Speaker 4: for sure, policy wise, like he's especially now that he
Speaker 4: doesn't have to run for reelection, Like absolutely, we're seeing
Speaker 4: a lot of more moves. But I think as far
Speaker 4: as like the interpersonal, the palace intrigue, that is where
Speaker 4: the wild card lies, because there were a lot of
Speaker 4: people who didn't think the relationship with Musk was gonna
Speaker 4: last this long, and honestly, I think, you know, things
Speaker 4: were winding down. I think a major part of the
Speaker 4: reason things fell apart. Like I've read some reporting on this,
Speaker 4: like Trump was not happy about the piece that came
Speaker 4: out about Elon Musk and his alleged ketamine use.
Speaker 3: Like Trump is very much a teetoller.
Speaker 5: He does not drink, Like he doesn't do drug Like
Speaker 5: that is not his thing at all, and for that
Speaker 5: to come out, I think, yeah, it's like very Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Like very known, like Trump does not drink, and so.
Speaker 1: That you found a way to use teetllar in a sentence.
Speaker 3: I know, I kept that one in my back pocket.
Speaker 3: I haven't old mom to that. I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I think that was I think. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think things were rough prior to that. And also,
Speaker 5: like Musk is very displeased with this bill because he
Speaker 5: feels like it's undoing a lot of the work that
Speaker 5: he did to cut spending and you know.
Speaker 3: Tax cuts beautiful bullshit.
Speaker 5: That's not going to bring in more money. So I
Speaker 5: think like it just it reached a fever pitch plus ego,
Speaker 5: the girls were fighting, but now they've calmed down.
Speaker 1: But the girls, hey, ba fam, we got to take
Speaker 1: a quick break, pay some bills and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, we're back. Well, they've calmed down.
Speaker 1: And the next thing that has been in the news
Speaker 1: were the ice raids. And do y'all know anybody on
Speaker 1: the West coast I was following. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: I know personally has been out there protesting, But I
Speaker 1: don't understand why it escalated to the point where we
Speaker 1: are sending out Marines National Guard for a peaceful protest.
Speaker 1: It's quite I don't terrifying.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that either. And so what you said
Speaker 2: earlier of it, you know, this all plays into it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hmm, that's a possibility. But I just don't
Speaker 2: understand of all of the the things to send resources
Speaker 2: for this is this is not it like this is
Speaker 2: just not it so and of all places too, like LA,
Speaker 2: I just don't understand that aspect at all.
Speaker 4: It's such a dramatic response. Students will protest just has
Speaker 4: me feeling, you know, the dictatorship vibe when they cracked
Speaker 4: on on any little, any little noise, any little peep,
Speaker 4: I'm cracking down on you. So you see what's gonna
Speaker 4: happen if you ever try to do anything big, Like
Speaker 4: I really and that's I mean, and it's it's common
Speaker 4: across the maror especially considering who is protesting, right, I
Speaker 4: would like to actually I wish I'd been able to
Speaker 4: research this, but specifically like the neighborhoods in not the
Speaker 4: neighborhood specifically, like like the people who are protesting, Like
Speaker 4: what is the racial demographic of people showing up. I'd
Speaker 4: be very curious to know that, because I'm wondering if that,
Speaker 4: by any any means had to do with the dramatic response,
Speaker 4: because I'm just thinking LA protests. When black and brown
Speaker 4: people are protesting, or when people are protesting for black
Speaker 4: and brown people, the response is always extremely dramatic.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of the all the neighborhoods that
Speaker 1: it started out in this neighborhood. Well there was like
Speaker 1: a clothing wholesaler. I don't where was that neighborhood. I
Speaker 1: need to look that up. But there was a clo
Speaker 1: Oh wholesaler where first the ice ray was going to happen.
Speaker 1: But then the next day the word got around that
Speaker 1: there was going to be a raid in this town
Speaker 1: called Paramount, at a home depot, and then I think
Speaker 1: what you are seeing is a lot of I think, well,
Speaker 1: it's affecting Latinos and we're talking about La We're talking
Speaker 1: like this is like heavily, heavily populated by the very
Speaker 1: people who are being targeted. So the people who were
Speaker 1: working at these places were calling family friends, and then
Speaker 1: work gets out. So you see a lot of Mexican
Speaker 1: flags waving. You see some really choice signs, a lot
Speaker 1: of signs in Spanish. There's one sign that says National Guard. Lol.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ice out of La deport maga,
Speaker 1: not the people. But it's peaceful protesting. I mean it
Speaker 1: it harkens back. I feel like too. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty in the Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: protests and the fear that you had about the protesters
Speaker 1: themselves put in themselves in harm's way, And I do
Speaker 1: feel like what you were saying rings true of when
Speaker 1: it is a black and brown issue at the heart
Speaker 1: of it, it's like we're gonna we need to get
Speaker 1: our get the guns out, you know, bring them in,
Speaker 1: because these people are savages. We must control them. That's
Speaker 1: another like that's an echo of the BLM movement and
Speaker 1: protests that I feel like we're hearing today.
Speaker 3: I think it really is like the reason the National
Speaker 3: Guard was called. All of it. It's about a show
Speaker 3: of power.
Speaker 5: Like I think part of it is like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 5: this will escalate the situation and we will, you know,
Speaker 5: get video of the way mos on fire and this
Speaker 5: police force, and it's just it's it's really too ratchet
Speaker 5: up to show like, hey, look, la, it's like occupied,
Speaker 5: it's military. I do think that is part of the point.
Speaker 5: And Trump is also he's just a big fan of
Speaker 5: military strength. Like in DC there's gonna be a military
Speaker 5: parade on Saturday, which is a.
Speaker 1: Which is why you said always wanted. He gets a
Speaker 1: hard on for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: It's like the traffic situation is I'm just like, oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, how am I gonna?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Is this the first year?
Speaker 6: Like does this happen every year?
Speaker 5: No, it's like a two hundred and fiftieth anniversary situation.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's like I know people who have seen
Speaker 5: like streets starting to get shut down. All he just
Speaker 5: he really enjoys like that military show. And I think
Speaker 5: this is part of it. And I think it's also
Speaker 5: a thing of like, Okay, we can make an example
Speaker 5: out of LAC.
Speaker 3: I told you i'd be law and order. I told
Speaker 3: you I'd crack down, like I'm doing it.
Speaker 5: Like it's just I think part of the point is
Speaker 5: to sort of escalate the situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the irony of it happening the very weekend after Pride,
Speaker 4: like the very next weekend, because we had Pride. Yeah,
Speaker 4: does this past weekend you know, Doci was there, Cynthia
Speaker 4: Ribo was there, Khalid was there, like it was a
Speaker 4: whole big thing. And then so it's the very next
Speaker 4: weekend to have a military parade where people we're seeing
Speaker 4: back during this past weekend like outside their windows in Virginia.
Speaker 4: I believe it was on the train tracks, like all
Speaker 4: of the what are those major like canon thing.
Speaker 3: Like the tanks and son.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, like the tanks were all on the trains
Speaker 4: heading in for the parade. This at the same time
Speaker 4: that we were celebrating Pride and and you know, self
Speaker 4: expression and and these it's just not lost on maybe irony.
Speaker 1: I forgot all about pride. Oh, Cynthia Revo, you know
Speaker 1: what also got lost in the sauce. The Tony's Cynthia
Speaker 1: helped it speaking of gay icons and icons in general
Speaker 1: and vessels from above. Oh my days are all Tony's people?
Speaker 1: Were you watching? I totally missed it because it was
Speaker 1: I was in London.
Speaker 3: I was watching the clips.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie, it's I know it's like corny
Speaker 5: and embarrassing now, but I was like, dang that Hamilton
Speaker 5: used to hit hard.
Speaker 1: In Filmy sixteen.
Speaker 5: It's I forgot about. I forgot how used to hit
Speaker 5: that hard? I have to run that back look key.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it is.
Speaker 2: I was like, because I remember that those that soundtrack
Speaker 2: was like on for me all the time, like I'm
Speaker 2: running up, I'm hailed it, but I'm doing something like it.
Speaker 2: So I feel like it just was so nostalgic, and
Speaker 2: I really love that they they did all that, and
Speaker 2: I love the presence of the cast like Fors for
Speaker 2: the most part of it.
Speaker 6: Those were the clicks I loved watching back too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean original Broadway cast no flex but a flex.
Speaker 1: I did see them, but it was I My brother's
Speaker 1: like five years younger, and he saw he was not
Speaker 1: in the Hamilton. He was like pointedly like, I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. Why are black and brown bodies being used
Speaker 1: to tell these white slaver stories? But I for the
Speaker 1: art it was. I'm so glad they celebrated it. You
Speaker 1: can't take it from us. I really don't think you can.
Speaker 1: Like it was a cultural movement, and so it launched
Speaker 1: the careers of so many people of color, like and
Speaker 1: it was so powerful. I'm glad that they I wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna come out like in costume.
Speaker 1: I liked that they wore the sleek, the black, and
Speaker 1: just the talent and the electricity of Leslie Odom Junior.
Speaker 1: Oh my days. Aaron Burr forever? Isn't he coming back
Speaker 1: to be Aaron Burr?
Speaker 4: Oh? Is he?
Speaker 1: I think I've read that he's coming back in another
Speaker 1: millennial nostalgia. Draco Malfoy himself, Tom Felton is coming back
Speaker 1: to play Draco in the Broadway show The Curse Child,
Speaker 1: which is weird and strange because how could it have been?
Speaker 1: How can he be old enough, but yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a moment Audrey McDonald did not win. I
Speaker 1: was really wanting Audrey McDonald to win her like umpteenth Tony,
Speaker 1: but she lost to Nicole Scherzinger, which was a thing.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Maybe not so surprising that Patti Lapone did not show
Speaker 1: her face.
Speaker 3: Man that I was.
Speaker 5: I was having a conversation with friends about this, and
Speaker 5: I think I also like was listening to another podcast
Speaker 5: and they mentioned this.
Speaker 3: But it's like, listen, I love a diva. I love
Speaker 3: a shady queen.
Speaker 5: But part of successfully being a diva is that you
Speaker 5: can't sound like a hater. Like it's funny when Mariah
Speaker 5: says like I don't know her about j Lo, because
Speaker 5: j Lo she's very talented, very gifted dancer.
Speaker 3: But there are some things.
Speaker 5: Where you're like, oh okay, especially compared to Mariah vocally,
Speaker 5: you sound like it's so easy to sound delusional trying
Speaker 5: to take down outro McDonald because she's just so talented,
Speaker 5: Like it's just a thing of like you cannot shade
Speaker 5: her in that way because you.
Speaker 3: Sound like a liar.
Speaker 5: Because we all have eyes and ears and we could
Speaker 5: see how talented she is, Evie.
Speaker 1: Did y'all cover that up, blavity?
Speaker 6: We covered the award nominees, not the tea behind it?
Speaker 1: No, but didn't get all that versus well, what did
Speaker 1: y'all think of Odra? On CBS when Gail asked her,
Speaker 1: and Gail always makes a note to say we had
Speaker 1: this already schedule, We're not just here for the tea,
Speaker 1: but she asked for Adra, and I did want to
Speaker 1: that's right. I wanted to talk about this because Patty
Speaker 1: Lapone and for those of you who lived under rock,
Speaker 1: Patty Lapone had this article come out where she's just
Speaker 1: like railing Audra McDonald and Keisha Lewis, who are just
Speaker 1: Broadway icons in their own right, calling them bitches and
Speaker 1: don't call yourself a veteran and they're not a friend
Speaker 1: to me, and this nonsense. And Audre was asked like,
Speaker 1: well do you respond? And she was so mature and
Speaker 1: so poised and gave the whole like, you know, I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Patty in ten to eleven years, but you
Speaker 1: know that's Patty, so let's let's move it on along,
Speaker 1: and did not take the bait at all, which which
Speaker 1: I think we like, appreciate that, but it's not the
Speaker 1: first time where we have had we as black women,
Speaker 1: have had to take that high road and not fight
Speaker 1: fight with fire. And the fact that more recently we
Speaker 1: got to talk about Coco golf because French Open winner.
Speaker 1: Don't ask me nothing about tennis, but I love black
Speaker 1: women who win. I caldn't tell you a thing, but
Speaker 1: I can tell you what a winner is, and that's
Speaker 1: Cocoa Golf. But she won the French Open. She's like,
Speaker 1: what eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a.
Speaker 3: Baby, and she beat a white girl.
Speaker 1: Maybe not white. I don't know where she's from, but
Speaker 1: she looked white. Beat a white girl. White girl comes
Speaker 1: out in the press and says, you know, she only
Speaker 1: won because I was bad that day or I wasn't
Speaker 1: playing well. And then Coco was interviewed by Robin Roberts
Speaker 1: and she's like, also like gonna give grace to the
Speaker 1: woman who spoke out and saying like, oh, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was the moment. She was also very poised and
Speaker 1: mature and like, you know, careful about her response. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to get y'all's take on that trend or
Speaker 1: not the trend, but like the frequency with which it
Speaker 1: feels like we are having to rise above and take
Speaker 1: that Michelle Obama high road when people come for our talent.
Speaker 6: I mean, also, Coco is twenty one.
Speaker 1: I oh, she's twenty one. Okay, my bad, Coco, get
Speaker 1: you a drink?
Speaker 6: Yeah, gets you a drink, but I don't. It's my
Speaker 6: pov not.
Speaker 2: It's just it's unfortunate, like we always have to do
Speaker 2: it right all the time. I mean, coming from it's starting.
Speaker 2: I mean, this didn't start, but Michelle Obama, who was
Speaker 2: the first lady who you know, was in the statue
Speaker 2: that she was, was having to do that and within
Speaker 2: her platform. And it's not a surprise that Coco has
Speaker 2: to do that, especially, you know with all of her accolades.
Speaker 2: I mean, Serena if we're talking about, and the same
Speaker 2: thing Arna Williams has to do that constantly, right, So
Speaker 2: it's just it's unfortunate.
Speaker 6: It's just unfortunate that.
Speaker 2: That has not progressed as much as it should have
Speaker 2: over time.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and honestly, just like the exhaustion and the weightiness
Speaker 4: of having to be the voice of morality, to be
Speaker 4: the voice of maturity, like even thinking of DOCI maybe
Speaker 4: I'm just we're just finished speaking about it. But Doughchi
Speaker 4: bringing it up about Trump and what was going on
Speaker 4: in LA with the protest.
Speaker 1: Oh no, sure that because I hardly had a chance
Speaker 1: to listen. What'd she say?
Speaker 4: Okay? So she was just very much like she was
Speaker 4: accepting her reward as best female hip hop artists, you know,
Speaker 4: being and should and she's I just want to take
Speaker 4: a period swap princess love her. But she was like,
Speaker 4: I want to take a moment to acknowledge what's happening
Speaker 4: outside this building quote outside this building, which I love
Speaker 4: that really bringing that kind of proximity, bringing it like
Speaker 4: that kind of reality to what's going on here. It's
Speaker 4: not just oh, a couple of states over, a couple
Speaker 4: of towns over, it's outside this and no one is
Speaker 4: speaking about it. I mean, Snoop Dogg went up on stage,
Speaker 4: didn't say anything about it. Mind you. This man's the
Speaker 4: one who you know, was he singing for Trump or yeah?
Speaker 1: Anybody call him out for that either. I was waiting
Speaker 1: for Kevin to get him in the monologue.
Speaker 4: I killed him out his pro semity to Martha Stewart's
Speaker 4: what keeps, it's what keeps him safe. But that's that's
Speaker 4: another conversation.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 4: But I really it's not lost on me that so
Speaker 4: often black women have to carry the weight of that
Speaker 4: of being the one that goes high when everyone else
Speaker 4: goes low. Of even looking at Simone Biles and my gosh,
Speaker 4: just had like a Twitter feud with what was her name?
Speaker 4: She is a Is she a swimmer or track star?
Speaker 4: One of those two? Give me one moment. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to remember exactly what her name was, but she just
Speaker 4: had a Twitter situation, is it is it rise? Thank you? Yes,
Speaker 4: Riley Gaines, where Riley was essentially making some transphobic remarks
Speaker 4: and and Simone pushed back on that, and she's and
Speaker 4: now she is the one who's being like spoken against
Speaker 4: and talked down upon because she dared to speak up
Speaker 4: about it, whereas usually, you know, she might have you know,
Speaker 4: she would have been expected to stay quiet. Hey, this
Speaker 4: is a your sport, Hey, like mind true business, Hey,
Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff. But it's like, no, I'm
Speaker 4: going to speak for the people who are being spoken
Speaker 4: against in this way, where that Riley Gaines was, I
Speaker 4: just yeah, it's really bothered since me, and it really
Speaker 4: weighs on me, especially women in sports. That that especially
Speaker 4: bothers me because you're already it's such a mental situation
Speaker 4: of having to prepare yourself to play your sport, right,
Speaker 4: you have to physically be prepared, but that mental preparation
Speaker 4: as well, and then knowing that very few are not
Speaker 4: very few, that's not very true, but so many are
Speaker 4: ready to just jump against you, watching every move, being
Speaker 4: very careful about you know, oh she said this, was
Speaker 4: that a micro question against so and so? Is she
Speaker 4: being a passive aggressive against so and so ready to
Speaker 4: piece you apart? I mean, what on earth?
Speaker 1: Can I flip it for a sec? Because you know,
Speaker 1: my reaction was the woman who talked about who said
Speaker 1: whatever Coco Gout's opponent who came out with that, who
Speaker 1: was like they had these terrible post game interviews. I
Speaker 1: who on their worst day wants to be put in
Speaker 1: front of cameras and microphones and told to speak nice?
Speaker 1: Like I almost my heart. I felt myself wanting to
Speaker 1: defend the woman who was mouthing off about Coco a
Speaker 1: little bit because I'm like, we also don't get to
Speaker 1: be angry, and I know that she's or I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think she's not a woman of color, But
Speaker 1: like I think women in general, like, why can't we
Speaker 1: have a strong emotional reaction. We just saw these two
Speaker 1: baby baby billionaires on you know, Twitter, like bickering and
Speaker 1: squabbling and like that somehow is fine, but like women
Speaker 1: like we don't really get to be angry and show
Speaker 1: that kind of emotion. And I, strangely enough, I appreciated
Speaker 1: Coco for not not because I thought it was something
Speaker 1: that she owed anyone to like not be angry at
Speaker 1: those were more, but because she gave the woman grace
Speaker 1: to have an emotional reaction. And I know Coco herself,
Speaker 1: we've all said stuff like that about someone that we
Speaker 1: are going up against, like like if I ever see
Speaker 1: Kira my my mathematical like Frenemie my my nemesis from
Speaker 1: twelfth grade ap calc, Like if I ever see what's
Speaker 1: on site, because I should have gotten the highest grade
Speaker 1: in the class like that kind of like competition. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that and you see it in sports too,
Speaker 1: with like Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, and I just feel like,
Speaker 1: can we just have strong emotions and be in like
Speaker 1: fight and have that because let's not play that it
Speaker 1: doesn't take that kind of grit and self like confidence
Speaker 1: and you know, and determination and badassery to get to
Speaker 1: where they are and so wow, she got upset. She
Speaker 1: said something that was a little unfair and like yeah,
Speaker 1: and keep it moving, like we're humans in that way,
Speaker 1: but we don't get to be Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that's my biggest beef with the way people
Speaker 5: talk about the WNBA. I'm so glad it's getting so
Speaker 5: much more attention. Those women are playing some ball, but
Speaker 5: I feel like people don't let them play ball, Like
Speaker 5: why is a flagrant foul taking up a week of
Speaker 5: real estate and people's brains? Draymond Green be stomping on
Speaker 5: people's chests and people don't say boo, we're just like
Speaker 5: lol haha, which like say me too, like wow, what
Speaker 5: a wild boy, Like we're not like women aren't allowed
Speaker 5: to do that. I think so much of athleticism and
Speaker 5: sports in particular is about like talking that meant like
Speaker 5: talking your mess, like being aggressive, like you're going to
Speaker 5: have conflict and you're going to have to work that
Speaker 5: conflict out. And I really think people struggle with women
Speaker 5: doing that, and that's why the conversations around women's sports
Speaker 5: get so weird so quickly.
Speaker 2: I mean I think that, I mean even within the
Speaker 2: finals right now. Halliburton is known for outlandish reactions to
Speaker 2: you know, like his his his wins or whatever, and
Speaker 2: a lot of that time, like people just sweep that under,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and women don't really have
Speaker 2: that ability. I think Coco responded to it beautifully. I
Speaker 2: think she absolutely responded to it beautifully. The only thing
Speaker 2: that I feel like is a little bit different from
Speaker 2: the Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark versus Coco and this
Speaker 2: I think she was a French player, is that she
Speaker 2: she a little bit kind of like came after Coco's
Speaker 2: game of being like she didn't do that great or
Speaker 2: like she didn't even play that hard, like she only
Speaker 2: won because of.
Speaker 6: Like I had a bad day.
Speaker 2: And it's like you can be competitive without you know,
Speaker 2: being a little bit shady and also undermining somebody's talent,
Speaker 2: right somebody's work, like you could just.
Speaker 6: Say like was it was a bad day?
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 2: Or you know, feel emotional or anger upset about that,
Speaker 2: but just kind of undermining somebody else's performance who does win.
Speaker 6: I think it's a little bit I.
Speaker 4: Agree, I agree, and I think I think, honestly, the
Speaker 4: high road out there would have been for Steff like
Speaker 4: a specifically she's I think she's Lucian actually, but she Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm going.
Speaker 1: Where this girl's from.
Speaker 4: None of us knows it's it's Belarus, okay. Focusing on
Speaker 4: the fact that they were that they were having their
Speaker 4: match in an open air on an open air court,
Speaker 4: which is not how they had practiced. They practiced indoor
Speaker 4: and the wind was very strong, so I would have
Speaker 4: focused more on, like, it's different in an environment that
Speaker 4: I'm you know, playing in. Also the fact that she
Speaker 4: had seventy unforced errors, like that's a lot, so she
Speaker 4: could have focused on on that side of things versus,
Speaker 4: as you said, Evie, like kind of coming for Coco's
Speaker 4: game one hundred percent. Just talk about the environment that
Speaker 4: your in, talk about the other forces that had to
Speaker 4: do with the game other than just your opponent. There's
Speaker 4: so many factors that play in here.
Speaker 1: And as a sports expert, especially with tennis, I know
Speaker 1: an error is bad. I want to also give a
Speaker 1: quick shine to this California, the sixteen year old from California.
Speaker 1: She was stripped of her title. She had just won
Speaker 1: the four hundred meters state title in running really fast.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and this is hilarious. She brought a fire
Speaker 1: extinguisher and after she won, she extinguished her feet like
Speaker 1: as a celebration, which I thought was hilarious, but she
Speaker 1: was They called it unsportsmanlike conduct and stripped her of
Speaker 1: her state title. That would piss me off, Like, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. The part of me is like is that.
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of over the top, but like
Speaker 1: kind of badass, Like it's hilarious. That generation is funny.
Speaker 2: She the top versus like like this is another area
Speaker 2: where it's like it's theatrical. It's a little over the top.
Speaker 2: It's that's fine, but it's not. It's not like she's
Speaker 2: putting any of her opponents down. It's not you know,
Speaker 2: being delicious or saying anything bad. It's basically like tooting
Speaker 2: her own horn, which is what you do as an athlete.
Speaker 2: So I think that was completely uncalled for in my opinion,
Speaker 2: unless it was a safety thing, right, if it was
Speaker 2: like indoors and it was like, you know, this is
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: Outside, I'm like, no press. Her and her dad at
Speaker 1: the press conference with the fire extinguisher. Next to her.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, she's sixteen. She went another race, but
Speaker 1: it's just that visual. Oh but she's crying, you know,
Speaker 1: she works so hard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: She didn't do it near anyone. Her dad handed her
Speaker 4: the fire extinguisher to do it. What had me annoyed
Speaker 4: actually was when the when the regulators or whatever they're called,
Speaker 4: were holding her by the arm and like walking her away.
Speaker 4: That's what got me. You didn't have to put your
Speaker 4: hands on this child. And that's the point at which
Speaker 4: the dad jumped over the gate and was like, I'm
Speaker 4: not a coach anymore, I'm a dad, which I point.
Speaker 4: I was like, yes, so oh did he okay? Right
Speaker 4: to touch her to lead her away. She wasn't fighting
Speaker 4: against them, She just turned because they got her attention,
Speaker 4: turned to them, put the fire stot her down to
Speaker 4: speak with them. That's when they grabbed her by the
Speaker 4: arm at the elbow, at which point I'm like, this
Speaker 4: did not need to escalate to you touching her at all.
Speaker 4: That is what got me upset. The rest of them
Speaker 4: like she's a kid, she's sixteen years old. You know,
Speaker 4: her shoes are on fire cause she's running so fat,
Speaker 4: Like I love that that was awesome, that was so great.
Speaker 4: She didn't do it in front of the other the
Speaker 4: other runners. She didn't do it so that they would
Speaker 4: be inhaling that extinct like whatever the fire extinguisher pushes out.
Speaker 1: Why I just watched the clip off her doing it,
Speaker 1: Like what are we trying to raise girls to be
Speaker 1: like to? It's just like we're raising these women to
Speaker 1: be phenoms and to be powerful, including us, and then
Speaker 1: the moment we acknowledge our greatness, it's like, no, not
Speaker 1: that way, not that way. That's too much. That's too much.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a fucking lose, lose. You got to
Speaker 1: like back yourself. And I hope she doesn't. I hope
Speaker 1: she doesn't let this get to her. I hope she
Speaker 1: continues moving ahead because it's like this is like the
Speaker 1: this is the collateral damage that can come when you
Speaker 1: are black and brilliant. Uh, in this in this time
Speaker 1: that we're in And I just love her dad for
Speaker 1: setting her up like that. Maybe they should let maybe
Speaker 1: they should do it every race. I don't know. Plus
Speaker 1: at safety, like it's nice to have an extra one.
Speaker 1: What if.
Speaker 3: Like you never know?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: I wonder you know I wonder if everyone who's like
Speaker 1: criticizing Cocoa and you know, this young teenager from californ
Speaker 1: what was her name again, I forget what her name
Speaker 1: is anyway, and like criticizing you know, Doc at the
Speaker 1: met When dochi that viral clip of her yelling at
Speaker 1: her team while she's like in a in a did
Speaker 1: y'all see that clip like in a wardrobe, like in
Speaker 1: an umbrella, the coon yelling at and yelling at her stuff.
Speaker 1: But anyway, like, I wonder if everyone criticizing black women
Speaker 1: who are really successful at how we're reacting. I want
Speaker 1: to see those tweets next to the tweets and the
Speaker 1: comments they've left about poor a Maries n PR tiny
Speaker 1: desk concert because where was the grace?
Speaker 3: Because isn't me?
Speaker 6: But I also didn't think it was that bad.
Speaker 7: Okay, oh okay, Alexa, I'm yeah, I just okay, here,
Speaker 7: this is all I'm the This is no just because listen,
Speaker 7: I'm very careful about giving criticism to someone who is doing.
Speaker 4: Something I could never do. Amen, you're not about to
Speaker 4: see yet a tiny desk concert. You know, I have
Speaker 4: no singing voice. I am more of a dancer than
Speaker 4: anything else. So let me just say that. What I
Speaker 4: will say is, oh boy, find your words. Is that
Speaker 4: I feel strongly that the if you're going to do
Speaker 4: a song as high pitched as the ones that she
Speaker 4: was doing, you have to be willing to adjust the arrangements.
Speaker 4: On that note, I think her voice has changed over
Speaker 4: the years very much, which is normal. I mean, look
Speaker 4: at Beyonce. Beyonce's voice is completely changed from when she
Speaker 4: was just starting out to now. It's a completely different voice.
Speaker 4: You can't tell me it's the same voice. And because
Speaker 4: of that, I think that she and the backup dancers
Speaker 4: and her the backup dancer, excuse me, the backup singers,
Speaker 4: and herself should have worked together a little bit more
Speaker 4: because it felt like the backup singers were really carrying
Speaker 4: a lot of it and that was making it sound
Speaker 4: very much like they were no longer in alignment where
Speaker 4: the song was going pitch wise, and she was going
Speaker 4: way too fast. I felt like if they had gone lower,
Speaker 4: a lower tone, like a lower pitch, and the song
Speaker 4: was slower, it would have been perfect for where she's
Speaker 4: at now in her career. She was trying to take
Speaker 4: it back, do like a throwback vibe and it didn't.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh boy, I'm gonna pause it right
Speaker 4: here and I continue want I've.
Speaker 1: Never cared for the song nor her voice in the
Speaker 1: song at the time, her voices her voices like I
Speaker 1: don't love her voice in the original song. I was
Speaker 1: shocked she tried to go that high. Come now, it's
Speaker 1: hard to sing that song in the car.
Speaker 6: I guess that's why.
Speaker 2: I also was I'm like, this is is this like
Speaker 2: not almost the norm for her? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure when she sang live it wasn't amazing before.
Speaker 2: I mean like, that's why I was like, who's it not? Well,
Speaker 2: we sort of expect, but I mean here, I still
Speaker 2: don't think all the backlash and like the lack of
Speaker 2: grace was warranted. I could see how people are like, no,
Speaker 2: it was actually that bad. But the grace that they
Speaker 2: didn't give the.
Speaker 4: Woman, I they didn't need to type all those comments out.
Speaker 4: You got work to do work.
Speaker 5: There are okay, there are artists where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 5: not like, we're you're not there for the vocal strength.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if someone's like ooh, Jasmine Sullivan,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, we're gonna get sang down. Same with Fantasia.
Speaker 5: It's like, remove the wig, throw it at her. Amory
Speaker 5: is not someone I think, but it's like they're are bops.
Speaker 5: It's a jam. It's a vibe. Also shout out to
Speaker 5: Backyard Band. I'm like, yes, can't wait to beat my
Speaker 5: feet to this, et cetera. But I think I don't know,
Speaker 5: And like I really like Amor. I thought you did
Speaker 5: a great job at the BET Awards with that one.
Speaker 5: I six a park thing.
Speaker 3: It was just, oh, that was fun.
Speaker 5: I think I don't know. It's just like, let's manage
Speaker 5: our expectations. That being said. And I may regret this
Speaker 5: because it comes for us all, but it's a thing
Speaker 5: of like gotta get these jokes off. You gotta sometimes
Speaker 5: sometimes you just gotta get the jokes off.
Speaker 4: My big two though, is I think that she had
Speaker 4: to it. I don't think you really told her what
Speaker 4: the vibe of Tiny Dusk was, do you know, sayd
Speaker 4: what I mean like, if you a lot of people
Speaker 4: that come to Tiny Dusk, they alter the like the
Speaker 4: cover of the the way if they're doing a song
Speaker 4: to fit the Tiny Dusk format, like the vibe for it, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's usually so like if you ever saw Alicia
Speaker 4: Kueses or if you saw durand Duranda, this is his name,
Speaker 4: Duran Bernard. Yeah, he was dressed up as the proud
Speaker 4: family uncle, you know, like when he did his but
Speaker 4: this sound the way that he was doing it, like
Speaker 4: he completely If you listen to their original song versus
Speaker 4: the way it was born on Tiny Dusk, it's so
Speaker 4: much more. For like, in the house, we really were
Speaker 4: sitting around on the kitchen counter talk. We're playing this
Speaker 4: song out. You know, it's a really at home vibe.
Speaker 4: I think she took on very much. We're on stage,
Speaker 4: but it's just a small stage, and it's like, no,
Speaker 4: this is not that vibe. I think that's really just
Speaker 4: what it was. I'm not taking away from our talent.
Speaker 4: I just think it was a matter of the environment
Speaker 4: we were in. Performing in this way.
Speaker 1: Looks hella awkward to perform there. If you're like someone
Speaker 1: who has anxiety about clutter, that shit is clutter. It
Speaker 1: shows nothing but nick Knacks. It looks like my aunt
Speaker 1: Brenda's living room. They're like, it is just like nick
Speaker 1: Knacks and Chochke's all over the wall. And then it's
Speaker 1: like perform be an artist.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is it a like desk?
Speaker 5: Like Okay, I used to wear and I have been
Speaker 5: to several I can give the give the background.
Speaker 3: So it is a desk.
Speaker 5: But even though it's called a tiny desk, it's a
Speaker 5: desk that's much bigger than all the other desks that
Speaker 5: everyone has. It's like a couple desks put together. Is
Speaker 5: Bob Boylan still at the time it was Bob Boylen's desk?
Speaker 3: Did he he might have announced retirement? Oh gosh, I
Speaker 3: hope someone important.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like in pr like music correspond So it
Speaker 5: was like his desk, but I don't I never saw
Speaker 5: him actually, Like at the desk, it's mostly the performance space,
Speaker 5: but like when it's time for the tiny desk, like
Speaker 5: everyone is like crowding around.
Speaker 3: Some people get there early.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: I went to the Gucci Man Tiny Desk when I
Speaker 5: worked there time of my life, and like I could
Speaker 5: always tell when the like they send an email out
Speaker 5: where they're like here's what's coming, but I could always
Speaker 5: It's funny seeing the different crowds, like with the Gucci
Speaker 5: Man Tiny Desk, Like it felt like every black person
Speaker 5: in that building was like ooh, let me like get
Speaker 5: my friends were going and then one time it was,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, it was I am forgetting this. It
Speaker 5: was like it was some white man singer songwriter. And
Speaker 5: I saw like.
Speaker 3: Several of my colleagues like running over and they're like, oh.
Speaker 5: My gosh, it's happening. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 5: know who this is. The Blue Man Group has been there,
Speaker 5: saw them. It's just so it's like a little bit
Speaker 5: of everything, A little bit of everything, it really is.
Speaker 7: She said, why tell Why?
Speaker 1: Well, that sounds tell of fun. I wish I have
Speaker 1: perks like that. Hey, ba fam, we gonna take a
Speaker 1: quick break, pay some bill and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, We're back. All right, y'all. We
Speaker 1: have to talk about the economy a little bit, mart maw.
Speaker 1: It's called brown ambition. Okay, Now, Miss JQ and your
Speaker 1: latest episode of Boxes Explaining to Me podcasts, y'all talked
Speaker 1: about recession indicators, and I'm a little confused. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to hear your take. First of all,
Speaker 1: is it not clear that a recession is here? I
Speaker 1: don't like we are struggling. This is like a bunch
Speaker 1: of different ways that we are just struggling. In these streets.
Speaker 5: I think that's like where the disconnect lies, because it's
Speaker 5: the one thing where it's like, no, y'all, I went
Speaker 5: to like I went to Trader Joe's, and you know,
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get like three days
Speaker 5: worth of stuff before I go on vacation, and it's
Speaker 5: like one hundred dollars. Like there is that situation. But
Speaker 5: when it comes to economists, they're like, no, there are
Speaker 5: official boxes to be checked in order to say we
Speaker 5: have a recession. So in order it for it to
Speaker 5: be like an official recession where they're talking about it
Speaker 5: on the news, et cetera, the economy has to contract
Speaker 5: for like two quarters straight. We're in one quarter of contraction.
Speaker 5: If in this next quarter, then like it's official.
Speaker 1: We're end in July, right, did not know September? No GM,
Speaker 1: what now one.
Speaker 6: Q two ends in July, thank you Engen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's gonna be. That's gonna be the tail.
Speaker 5: That being said, the vibes are bad. It's hard if
Speaker 5: people are out here struggling, like, and I think that's
Speaker 5: where the disconnect is. And I think both politicians and
Speaker 5: media like we have to be like okay, yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 5: technically no, technically the economy is good, but like one,
Speaker 5: who is it good for? The people at the top
Speaker 5: are the ones who are eating the ones are the
Speaker 5: bottom not getting fed as much. And also like realizing
Speaker 5: like no, like technically the economy may be healthy, but
Speaker 5: on a personal finance situation, things are not healthy. And
Speaker 5: I wish that like we all took that more seriously
Speaker 5: and that that's kind of like the thing we looked
Speaker 5: at to judge the health of like what agree.
Speaker 2: And also I think like as a as like media
Speaker 2: brands and we're all within media, we have a service,
Speaker 2: like it doesn't even at this point, it doesn't even.
Speaker 6: Matter like if it is or if it's not or blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah, Like we have a you know, service to
Speaker 2: our community, especially like what blavity we service like black
Speaker 2: millennials gen zs. So our audience is like this is
Speaker 2: how you prepare, Like this is what you need to
Speaker 2: do right more on the personal level versus just like
Speaker 2: waiting for these boxes to be checked because I care
Speaker 2: see you, the box will be checked after we've already
Speaker 2: been in it.
Speaker 3: So like at this point, you.
Speaker 2: Just it is what it is, right, we have to
Speaker 2: have more discussion on like the personal level and like
Speaker 2: how people are impacted versus has a box been checked yet?
Speaker 6: Okay, now let me figure it out.
Speaker 1: What were some of the recession indicators that y'all covered JQ.
Speaker 1: They some of them were kind of funky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's the underwear one where Alan Greenspan was like, honestly,
Speaker 5: men buy less underwear. That may be it because it's
Speaker 5: one of those things that people see the least of.
Speaker 1: So like, my husband just bought new boxers though.
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe y'all are doing.
Speaker 1: I told him the plumber's crack had to go. I said,
Speaker 1: forget the recession. The plumber crack got to get whole
Speaker 1: neighborhood be seeing your crack. It's not okay while you're
Speaker 1: watching the car.
Speaker 3: Is too much.
Speaker 1: It's don't very Evie, take notes. This is how you
Speaker 1: talk about your husband just eight years down the line. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're buying less undies.
Speaker 3: What else? Yeah.
Speaker 5: One person called in. He was like, I work out
Speaker 5: a bar. People are buying more drinks and cash.
Speaker 3: Is that a thing?
Speaker 5: And you know it could be it could be people
Speaker 5: being like I don't want credit card fees, or you know,
Speaker 5: maybe some people just have a little more cash now,
Speaker 5: Like that's one the one we really get gen Z thing.
Speaker 4: You will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's also atm in a minute.
Speaker 5: There's also like a there's a whole thing gen Z
Speaker 5: interacts at bars differently than like older generations do. Like
Speaker 5: there was this whole like piece in the New York
Speaker 5: Times about how like gen Z doesn't keep tabs open.
Speaker 5: They close out the tab each time and then keep
Speaker 5: going back to the bar each time.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Interesting, in my.
Speaker 2: Younger days, that would have saved me a lot of
Speaker 2: debit cards.
Speaker 3: You just leave it behind.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I went to London without a wallet,
Speaker 1: not a single credit card, not a license in my possession.
Speaker 1: I want my passport and nothing else. And all my
Speaker 1: friends were like, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 1: Everywhere you went it was like top.
Speaker 4: Here, tab here exactly.
Speaker 1: I think it's ghetto that we still have to use
Speaker 1: a physical passport, like come on now, and I don't
Speaker 1: even take it out at the airport. It's like come use,
Speaker 1: I have Global entry and it's just like come stand
Speaker 1: in front of the screen. We're gonna take your picture,
Speaker 1: and like, come on, is it is the paper company?
Speaker 1: Is it in bed with like the government, Like, what's
Speaker 1: happening because we gotta getrid of these passports? Okay, sorry JQ.
Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 5: Oh, press on nails could be people are getting you know,
Speaker 5: fewer manicures they're doing at home stuff, So increase and
Speaker 5: press on nail. Yeah, increase and press on nails. Returning
Speaker 5: to your natural hair color. People may not want to
Speaker 5: go to the salon. Someone was like statement necklaces that
Speaker 5: one less, so like sorry, like, it's just well.
Speaker 1: It's not conn So no, I thought we were done
Speaker 1: with those.
Speaker 3: No, and a peplum. Oh if peplum comes back, I
Speaker 3: may be like, where are we going from?
Speaker 1: It's time to go to the clere. But peplum comes
Speaker 1: back with a statement. Next we'kin a pizto platform.
Speaker 5: Back to the like office wear at the club. We
Speaker 5: really went from day to night like constantly.
Speaker 6: I truly did like.
Speaker 4: And didn't change me out.
Speaker 5: No, it would be me a blazer and owl necklace
Speaker 5: and like my laptop in the club, living my best life.
Speaker 5: Apparently people are tipping less at the strip club, which
Speaker 5: to me is just bad.
Speaker 3: If you can't, If you can't, it's got to be
Speaker 3: a strip club. Study listen, they're the first to see.
Speaker 5: Also, like in a decrease in eating out delivery, that's
Speaker 5: been me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me trying to cook at home.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately it does actually save you money, guys, oh very much.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: Also I got I just signed up for a food delivery,
Speaker 1: which had I had become like, I feel like food
Speaker 1: delivery has got to be so overdone. There's a million
Speaker 1: of them. But one of my friends was raving about
Speaker 1: how she uses this new subscription meal service where it's
Speaker 1: like chef delivered meals. I just signed up and it
Speaker 1: was a hundred bucks for six meals for the So
Speaker 1: that's a meal every night during the week. And apps
Speaker 1: that would be two door dash orders with all them
Speaker 1: fees and stuff from you and my husband.
Speaker 6: Oh that's like, yeah, have.
Speaker 1: Y'all done anything in your life to save money recently,
Speaker 1: like just to whether it's like using less credit, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I used to.
Speaker 2: I used to get my hair done a lot more
Speaker 2: and now I do it a lot more myself, or
Speaker 2: just you know, book appointments with my sister to do
Speaker 2: my braiding or things like they look.
Speaker 1: Very cute, these like little side birds, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and I could I could definitely see like a
Speaker 2: decrease in the beauty you know up keep department and
Speaker 2: just di y that's my thingmm.
Speaker 5: Hmm, yeah, there's Yeah, there's maintenance where I'd be like
Speaker 5: ooh every two weeks and now I'm more like, all right,
Speaker 5: once a month that will be the thing. Also, I'm like,
Speaker 5: all right, we gotta rain these ride shares in so
Speaker 5: it's like planning ahead, gotta get on that train, gotta
Speaker 5: get on that bus, like plan ahead, Like I think
Speaker 5: that's the biggest thing where I'm like, all right, we
Speaker 5: do not have to uber everywhere, Like, get get your
Speaker 5: butt on that bus. You live in a city with
Speaker 5: good public transportation, take advantage of it.
Speaker 4: It's honestly, I'm going back to my college days. I
Speaker 4: feel like I have a water bottle with me. Everywhere
Speaker 4: I go, I'll have to buy water of the kind
Speaker 4: of stuff I like.
Speaker 1: Someone that's pretty, isn't it pretty Pride?
Speaker 4: It's a rainbow bottle. Anyway, I get my nails done
Speaker 4: by in a way of like I'll go and be
Speaker 4: like get me, do what you do for the men
Speaker 4: for me, Just clean up the cuticle, maybe it look nice.
Speaker 4: And then I go to CBS or wherever. Actually I
Speaker 4: get it on Amazon sometimes or through Etsy. I'll just
Speaker 4: get some paistons and do it like that. I had
Speaker 4: found a really great adhiece of glue, so I've been
Speaker 4: loving that. Learning to do my hair also Evey one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. I got a trip next week and I'm
Speaker 4: literally like, how am I gonna do my hair? I
Speaker 4: don't want to spend three hundred dollars on these French
Speaker 4: curl layered braids.
Speaker 1: See I wonder I want to we who's doing this
Speaker 1: study on African braiding salons this summer, because if the
Speaker 1: girls are not getting their hair braided down, that to me.
Speaker 5: Oh if like if braids go I'm like, oh we
Speaker 5: are in to me, we are because braidss like okay, it.
Speaker 1: Was boho braids last summer, but it lasts a little longer.
Speaker 5: Like it's hot, I don't have to but if braiding
Speaker 5: goes by the wayside, it's like, oh honey, we might
Speaker 5: be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Something is happening.
Speaker 4: Let me let me see the uptick and head scarves
Speaker 4: be sold.
Speaker 1: That's what I It's too hot for all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not even a money thing for me. I can't
Speaker 1: sit down for seven hours while someone but I just
Speaker 1: can't ask too much is too much for me. I'm
Speaker 1: never going to be a braid girly. But you know
Speaker 1: what I also feel like during the last recession, like
Speaker 1: well this was during my January, like our early recession
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, seven, eight, nine ten, one of
Speaker 1: the one of the things that upticked were like basic
Speaker 1: manicures because because that was like people's treat so women
Speaker 1: were like buying a lipstick, buying a little man. Getting
Speaker 1: a little manicure as like a small creature comfort when
Speaker 1: everything else felt like out of reach. I hope that
Speaker 1: we can find these like moments of self care and joy.
Speaker 1: Why has it always got to be the nails and
Speaker 1: the hair that takes it? Like, why can't we get
Speaker 1: rid of something else? Like I don't have these kids.
Speaker 1: Kids are very expensive. It would be much more, it
Speaker 1: be much more beneficial to my budget if I didn't
Speaker 1: have to pay twenty five one hundred dollars a month
Speaker 1: for daycare. That would be nice. Can we get some
Speaker 1: universal childcare? Like there's all this pressure on us to
Speaker 1: like budget and stuff, but at a certain point in
Speaker 1: this economy, it just feels like there's nothing left else
Speaker 1: to cut. I don't cut everything to some of the streamers,
Speaker 1: you know, you try to like cut your eating out,
Speaker 1: cut your rise shares and things like that. But when
Speaker 1: the cost of housing is so crazy, I just got
Speaker 1: my I just got my house, my new tax assessment.
Speaker 3: Do y'all own homes men street, it's trash?
Speaker 1: Well, oh not, Evie JQ. You know this because okay, one,
Speaker 1: you're show to talk about housing. But as a homeowner,
Speaker 1: every year my town decides what my house is valued,
Speaker 1: and a free assesses it so they can get more
Speaker 1: taxes out of us. Tell me why I have not
Speaker 1: done a single thing to this house. If anything, the
Speaker 1: house has become worse since last year. Things are falling apart,
Speaker 1: and it's like your home value has increased sixty two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Congrats, we're going to be taken twenty And
Speaker 1: I already paid twenty thousand dollars a year in property taxes.
Speaker 1: And it's the same for renters like across the street.
Speaker 1: And I know why across the street, my neighbor she
Speaker 1: rents her house. They were like pandemic Brooklyn refugees, and
Speaker 1: their landlord probably got the same letter I did. Where
Speaker 1: her house, her home value increased, and probably her taxes
Speaker 1: increase because their rent is going up five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: and they're like, we don't want to pay that, but
Speaker 1: and I don't want to pay my increased property taxes
Speaker 1: is wild. So it's a bit like that. Yeah, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just it's really frustrating. It can be really frustrating,
Speaker 1: especially I mean, Alexa, we're covering personal finance and JQ
Speaker 1: to a certain extent, but like when the advice for
Speaker 1: consumers on how they can make ends meet is like
Speaker 1: they've trimmed everything. It's like, we need something. We need
Speaker 1: more houses built, like we need more economic relief social
Speaker 1: safety nets, which unfortunately, going back to the big, bad,
Speaker 1: bogus bullshit bill that's going through Congress right now, could
Speaker 1: be reducing those social safety nets at a time when
Speaker 1: we're all out here struggling so much.
Speaker 3: It makes no sense. It's quite sad.
Speaker 4: It's so remarkably offensive to me because it's such a
Speaker 4: lack of under of wanting to understand that it's not
Speaker 4: that people are lazy. Okay, we're really doing everything we
Speaker 4: can to make ends meat, to get to the end
Speaker 4: of the year to get, you know, just to be
Speaker 4: on the table, and you're here telling me, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: if you work a little harder, you know, just just
Speaker 4: go to school. Oh just take on all the Yeah,
Speaker 4: like they make it sound so they're they're not considering
Speaker 4: everything that's already being done, and how things that are
Speaker 4: the worst parts are the systemic issues, the systemic elements
Speaker 4: of this. So they're propagating, that's the most It's it's
Speaker 4: the offensiveness of it for me that, Yeah, that hurts
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, AI is going to come for all of our jobs,
Speaker 1: all heard. It is a little bit personal to me
Speaker 1: because Business Insider is how I got my start in
Speaker 1: personal finance reporting over a decade ago. But they just
Speaker 1: announced twenty one percent layoffs of their staff, which is
Speaker 1: a lot of dozens of workers. But what really has
Speaker 1: pissed everybody off and was surprising to me is how
Speaker 1: they owned They owned up to the fact that it
Speaker 1: was AI that was driving them to make these cuts.
Speaker 1: They specifically cut their e commerce team, which is like,
Speaker 1: which is pretty much like what I was doing when
Speaker 1: I was in marketing. I was doing content marketing. You'd
Speaker 1: create content that was tied to products, that you would
Speaker 1: get affiliate revenue from, like the same stuff Wirecutter does
Speaker 1: and nerd wallet stuff like that. So they're cutting that
Speaker 1: because they have realized that, oh, we can train an
Speaker 1: AI model to create this kind of content, so let's
Speaker 1: get rid of the humans. And it's so it's just
Speaker 1: it really hit me because I'm like, oh, that would
Speaker 1: be my story probably if I had stayed, you know,
Speaker 1: in in that kind of media space that I was in.
Speaker 1: And it's a real scary sign of what can be
Speaker 1: what's to come. And I know we're all in media
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form. How do y'all feel
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's honestly, it's frightening.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not the biggest like AI user, but
Speaker 5: I do know people who do use it, and there
Speaker 5: are some tools where I'm like, okay, that makes sense. Like,
Speaker 5: you know, if you're doing a big investigative piece and
Speaker 5: you're trying to comb through a data set, it is
Speaker 5: probably very helpful to be like, all right, this can
Speaker 5: pull out these metrics that I'm looking for, save me
Speaker 5: a little bit of time before I look over them.
Speaker 5: But when it comes to writing, when it comes to
Speaker 5: like a podcast, like there's a certain amount of even
Speaker 5: if it's just a straight news story, there is like
Speaker 5: soul in that human element, and I think we shouldn't
Speaker 5: discount that.
Speaker 3: And if it goes by the wayside at.
Speaker 5: A lot of organizations, I think people do not realize
Speaker 5: how much they are going to miss it.
Speaker 4: Agreed, Agreed. There have to be ethical limits, especially within
Speaker 4: certain disciplines like journalism. I just don't believe that AI
Speaker 4: can take on the kind of as you were saying, JQ,
Speaker 4: the human element of these kind of pieces. Now I
Speaker 4: work in media, yes, but I work on the operation side,
Speaker 4: right so I'm building dashboards, I'm building I had to
Speaker 4: build a couple opps to make stuff happen for work,
Speaker 4: and I need a honestly without a not that I
Speaker 4: need it, but it, when I tell you, it makes
Speaker 4: a task that would have taken the full month or
Speaker 4: two months, and this turned it into two weeks. And
Speaker 4: like where I can tweak it and make it right
Speaker 4: for our business, where my human element then goes in
Speaker 4: and arranges it perfect. That's great for the operation side
Speaker 4: of things, for the part that deals with numbers, for
Speaker 4: the part that deals with you know, that kind of
Speaker 4: chug and plug of I just need to build this
Speaker 4: with a tool, the structure versus the meat of it,
Speaker 4: which is what should be supplied by the humans. If
Speaker 4: we have the skeletal structure by an AI situation, I
Speaker 4: don't see I personally don't see as much of an
Speaker 4: issue with it, But I do see the issue when
Speaker 4: it comes into the play of you know, journalism, writing
Speaker 4: the meat of what makes it what it like different
Speaker 4: from something else, because what's to say, you know, Business
Speaker 4: Insider versus the Financial Times versus whoever else? Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: probably using AI to create all these articles. Like I
Speaker 4: just I know you can to a certain element, curate
Speaker 4: it so that it is aligned with the voice of
Speaker 4: your brand. But I have to believe that there are
Speaker 4: limits to that that only a human can surpass. I'm
Speaker 4: very fascinated by all of this, but I said, I
Speaker 4: very much believe there should be ethical meditations.
Speaker 6: I I'm a proponent of it from like a.
Speaker 2: Utilizing this tool right like because because let's media has
Speaker 2: been through these stages like every so often we go
Speaker 2: through these like you know, huge shifts in media, right
Speaker 2: and like how we bring information to to our audience.
Speaker 2: So this is just another one of them. I do
Speaker 2: think it's a it's a tool for us to learn
Speaker 2: and utilize, but it is not a tool necessarily. Well,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this yet where it can replace a
Speaker 2: human voice. Right, even if you you know, you get something,
Speaker 2: it's like there's a lot of it is false, completely.
Speaker 6: False, and it's like made up.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, like you said, Alexa, it creates a It's great
Speaker 2: at creating a template or some kind of like structure,
Speaker 2: but as far as like creating just like creating in general,
Speaker 2: like an end to end, it's not there yet. But
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying using this tool for quick assessments, creating specific
Speaker 2: like formats, a lot of like data analysis too. That's
Speaker 2: really helpful. So I'm enjoying that aspect of it. But
Speaker 2: from we have a lot a long ways to go
Speaker 2: in terms of like ethical like rules and guardrails when
Speaker 2: it comes to these.
Speaker 4: I think the challenge also comes by way of human
Speaker 4: abuse of AI, like as in as in substituting AI
Speaker 4: for human discernments, I mean human discernment like stuff stuting
Speaker 4: human discernment for AI, excuse me, and not like I
Speaker 4: was reading this article recently at this this author he
Speaker 4: was sharing with one of his colleagues about how much
Speaker 4: he loved having chat GBT get him editing feedback on
Speaker 4: his work because he was like creating a new manuscript
Speaker 4: and he just wanted some quick verses having to hire
Speaker 4: an editor and do the whole thing. He's like, let
Speaker 4: me try and see if I can, you know, let
Speaker 4: me just see what he kept up to PT does
Speaker 4: And he loved what it turned out for him, and
Speaker 4: so he show his friend and his friend was reviewing
Speaker 4: what it was saying to him, and really it was
Speaker 4: just all a bunch of feedback that was playing up
Speaker 4: his ego and very much like, oh, yeah, we see
Speaker 4: what you did here. But if you just make this
Speaker 4: minor correcting, and she's like, this entire page needs to go.
Speaker 4: This entire painic needs to be completely re edited and
Speaker 4: rewriting and redone and whatnot. And I think that's something
Speaker 4: to be said about, like are you able to tell
Speaker 4: when when your ego's being stroked, you know, and being
Speaker 4: able to say, hey, no, actually I want you to
Speaker 4: come at me on this like I want you to.
Speaker 4: But AI has been created in a way of like, no,
Speaker 4: you are the support to the humans. You make the
Speaker 4: humans feel and hear exactly what they want to feel
Speaker 4: in here. Just do it in a way that is
Speaker 4: constructive and that is supportive, passionate, as compassionate as you
Speaker 4: know a tech tool can be. And I mean you're
Speaker 4: seeing people use chat gipt for for therapy, all right,
Speaker 4: Like these are the kind of limitations I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my cousin told me she was using chat to
Speaker 1: learn how to break.
Speaker 3: Up with the guy. Uh. Girl, go to the group chat,
Speaker 3: Go to the group chat, go to the.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, gen Z. She's I'm like, ask your friends.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't know. They don't really get it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like to.
Speaker 5: Be human is to be in conflict, and you can't
Speaker 5: really I think we do ourselves a disservice when we
Speaker 5: smooth off those edges. Like a running joke that I
Speaker 5: have told every person who edits me and this has
Speaker 5: even been since, Like I even felt this way as
Speaker 5: a kid because my parents would edit my essays for
Speaker 5: like school in high school, and part of having an
Speaker 5: editor like you're just gonna feel a sense of defensiveness.
Speaker 5: Like there's always like they'll strike something out or add something,
Speaker 5: and so you get this feeling of like so you
Speaker 5: think I'm dumb.
Speaker 3: You think I'm dumb, and you hate me. You hate
Speaker 3: me and you.
Speaker 5: Think I'm dumb, and you never like act on it.
Speaker 5: As time go by, you start to feel it a
Speaker 5: little less, but there always is that thing of like,
Speaker 5: you think I'm stupid and you hate me, and that's
Speaker 5: why you took that sentence out, isn't it. And it's
Speaker 5: like no, no, they're they're doing the right thing, and
Speaker 5: it's just you have to learn.
Speaker 3: That's my love language. I'm a masochist.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you don't give me critical feedback like
Speaker 1: and I mean critical, like this sucks? Why this?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: Are you even do you even like me enough to
Speaker 1: give me criticism?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: That's my relationship to being edited. Although I will say, Alexa,
Speaker 1: some of us do need our ego stroke. When we
Speaker 1: were in writer's block and I did. I'm working on
Speaker 1: my book and there was a point when I uploaded
Speaker 1: like three chapters into chat GPT or perplexity. I forget
Speaker 1: which one, and I was like, tell me how you
Speaker 1: like these chapters? And I really needed them to like
Speaker 1: them and loved it. It was so common I think
Speaker 1: I even posted about it. I was like Wow, I
Speaker 1: really need this pick me up. But is it real?
Speaker 3: Hell no, but it's nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. The thing with us too.
Speaker 4: And uploading your work. Another thing I've been actually reading
Speaker 4: about is how you have to and it's just a
Speaker 4: note to human because I don't want not to happen
Speaker 4: in with your work at all. But like in a
Speaker 4: negative sense of unchat REPT, there's a toggle that's often
Speaker 4: like just automate automatically on. You have to turn it off,
Speaker 4: but it's like, would you like to help other chat
Speaker 4: gpt upload like the content that you put in and
Speaker 4: like it can use whatever you upload to like be
Speaker 4: like kind of take it as its own and take
Speaker 4: ownership of that. So I would just be very careful
Speaker 4: of like uploading full chafters or any anything like that.
Speaker 4: But when I just want to say that also very random,
Speaker 4: well not random, it's very connected to this, but slightly adjacent.
Speaker 4: Have you ell ever heard of solar punk?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, okay, So, like solar punk dies into like AI
Speaker 4: in tech and like the so so many people are
Speaker 4: when they are talking about AI or they're talking about
Speaker 4: tech about there's taking over. It's gonna take over absolutely
Speaker 4: everything it's gonna take over humans. Humans are gonna be
Speaker 4: a thing anymore, blood or whatever whatever. Solar Punk takes
Speaker 4: it as AI and humans living together in harmony and
Speaker 4: finding different limitations for AI so it doesn't infringe upon
Speaker 4: human life and instead supports it. So think of like agriculture, right,
Speaker 4: think of like solar panels, even like types of tech
Speaker 4: in that regard supporting human goals. So that's where I'm
Speaker 4: most interested. The reason I bring that up this because
Speaker 4: when I'm thinking about ethical limitations or I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: where AI is going, that is what I'm most interested
Speaker 4: in learning about. How might we support our incoming students.
Speaker 4: I mean, Morgan Debond just posted about this on our
Speaker 4: Instagram story about all of the new kids who are
Speaker 4: applying to work at Blavity, Like none of them are
Speaker 4: like prepared. They don't have anything in their skill set
Speaker 4: that is like, yes, of course they're entry levels to
Speaker 4: help prepared to expect them to be. But compared to
Speaker 4: where we are right now in the world and what
Speaker 4: companies need, like you have to have a basic level
Speaker 4: understanding of how AI is operating so that you can
Speaker 4: be an actual addition to this company versus you know,
Speaker 4: just another another body. So I'm curious to know, like
Speaker 4: how can we support kids learning better prompts? Learning, how
Speaker 4: to apply discernment with certain prompts? Learning, how to you
Speaker 4: know which type of AI is better for a particular tool,
Speaker 4: Like that is where I'm most interested in learning, Like
Speaker 4: how might there be a symbiotic relationship here because you
Speaker 4: cannot say AI is just stalk, We shouldn't have any
Speaker 4: It's here and it's here to stay, Like that's I
Speaker 4: cannot I talk about my parents this with my parents
Speaker 4: all the time. They are boomers. They're like, no, no,
Speaker 4: I refuse. I'm like, you're going to be lost in
Speaker 4: the sauce, mommy if you don't get into this now,
Speaker 4: Like you have to learn some of this now so
Speaker 4: that you're not left behind. And I think that there's
Speaker 4: this is the time where we're able to apply that
Speaker 4: understanding of here's how we can have more a more
Speaker 4: positive relationship with it than one that is antagonistic in
Speaker 4: the way that for example, what we're talking about here
Speaker 4: of the business insider layoffs, Like I just there's another
Speaker 4: answer here, and it just takes a lot of creativity
Speaker 4: of thought and how to tackle this complex.
Speaker 1: Issue Amen's sister friend. I will just note that my
Speaker 1: brother's on the board of the Responsible AI Institute, So
Speaker 1: if you're interested in learning more about responsible AI and
Speaker 1: ethics of AI, there are very smart people working on this,
Speaker 1: so I would check that out. All right, y'all, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. EV's got to go, but Alexa
Speaker 1: and JQ are going to stick around. We're going to
Speaker 1: do brown Boost, Brown Break, and we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: very juicy question from ba Fam from a renter who
Speaker 1: is dealing with a very awkward financial situation with her roommate.
Speaker 1: Stick around, BA Fam will be right back. Okay, ba Fam,
Speaker 1: we are back. This is the part of the show,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts where we do our brown
Speaker 1: boost or brown break. Now, just to remind y'all of
Speaker 1: the rules, they're not that serious. But this is a
Speaker 1: time when we are either going to shine a light
Speaker 1: do a boost for something that we love. It can
Speaker 1: be you know, a personal win, a professional win. It
Speaker 1: can be your new favorite, you know, efficiency tool that
Speaker 1: you're using. It can be an app, it can be
Speaker 1: something in pop culture that you're really excited about. It's
Speaker 1: yours to shine a light on. But also we are
Speaker 1: here to acknowledge the multitude of feelings that we have,
Speaker 1: including the feelings.
Speaker 3: Of oh God, not again.
Speaker 1: So that's why we developed the brown break. Brown break
Speaker 1: is something that you are sick of, that you want
Speaker 1: to vent about, so feel free to get it off
Speaker 1: your chest. I don't want to put y'all on the spot,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to go first. You're well, God, and
Speaker 1: having just come off this the first group friend trip
Speaker 1: I've done in like a long time, I forgot how
Speaker 1: tricky and sticky like splitting expenses can be, and how
Speaker 1: kind of awkward it is, especially when you're with a
Speaker 1: group of friends who not everybody is the same level
Speaker 1: of front with everybody else. And some people are like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be happy to pick up the bill for this
Speaker 1: dinner and we can just you know, we can divvy
Speaker 1: up the expenses later. And some people are like, well,
Speaker 1: I did not eat the pida and hummus and I
Speaker 1: did not have a mocktail, so I would like thirteen
Speaker 1: dollars and seventy five cents remove from my I actually, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't hate that, But when you're traveling with like
Speaker 1: different people and a certain group of people is used
Speaker 1: to that more like flexible, like freewheeling, like ooh, someone
Speaker 1: will pay, we'll cover it later. And some people are
Speaker 1: more used to just covering their own. It can get
Speaker 1: a little sticky, but I will say my friend Baron
Speaker 1: during this group trip to London, was so great about
Speaker 1: just like making executive decisions about what the protocol was
Speaker 1: going to be. And he had us all download this
Speaker 1: app called split Wise, which I haven't used in so long,
Speaker 1: but it's such a great app. I remember it, and
Speaker 1: there's other I think cost splitting apps, but everybody puts
Speaker 1: in what they charged. Now I like to be a
Speaker 1: passenger princess. I am happy for everyone else to pay
Speaker 1: the bills and then I will just settle up.
Speaker 3: At the end.
Speaker 1: So it was great, And you know, is it fun
Speaker 1: to get that bill after a vacation. No, but it's
Speaker 1: nice to know that, like everyone is gonna be fairly compensated.
Speaker 1: So in a little boost and free Pomo for split
Speaker 1: Wise and my friend Baron for just being that guy
Speaker 1: who wants to get shit done and is type A
Speaker 1: and likes math, because that is so not me. I
Speaker 1: just go for the vibes.
Speaker 4: M Every friend group needs a baron.
Speaker 1: I know you're the baron of your group, Alexa, I
Speaker 1: sure as hell.
Speaker 4: I really the older sister and me I was raised
Speaker 4: by a Caribbean mother. Yes, I'm gonna give you the
Speaker 4: executive decision of what's happening. I would also be compassionate.
Speaker 1: All right, who wants to go next? What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Alexa? Booster break?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm doing a boost. I'm I've been so happy
Speaker 4: as a foo. I mean, I'm always I'm I'm a
Speaker 4: very happy person normally, but I've just been feeling especially
Speaker 4: joyful from this sublet that came very much as a surprise.
Speaker 4: Like my friend contacted me maybe two weeks ago and
Speaker 4: she was like, hey, do you the spot? I need
Speaker 4: you to cover my spot in New York. Like I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to take it over yet, could
Speaker 4: you be my sub letter? Grow? Yes? Yes, yes, So
Speaker 4: I got myself on the bus, I got straight here.
Speaker 4: I'm all settled in, very happy about that. But I
Speaker 4: think especially what I'm gonna boost up right now is
Speaker 4: Scott's Cheap Flights, although I believe they go by a
Speaker 4: different name now I should search that up. But Scott's
Speaker 4: Cheap Flights. It's a website that tells you all the
Speaker 4: great like playing deals, like flight deals and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I haven't why had not heard of Scott's Cheap Flights before.
Speaker 4: It's amazing I have. I have traveled to over twenty
Speaker 4: countries at this point, and that is how I do it.
Speaker 4: Like I stay on flights and I stay on a
Speaker 4: I never play paid full price. I always do it
Speaker 4: via Scott's Cheap Flights, or I set my Google Flight
Speaker 4: Google Fight alerts. You know, I figure out when is
Speaker 4: the best time to go to certain places. But this year,
Speaker 4: I really, really really had a goal, have a goal
Speaker 4: of being able to see you know, visit as many
Speaker 4: like two more continents ideally, And so far we're on
Speaker 4: track for that. I you know, We've done Europe, we
Speaker 4: we did Asia, and now I'm going to Columbia next week,
Speaker 4: even though it's gonna be raining the whole time, that's fine.
Speaker 4: And then after that Australia to go see my my
Speaker 4: dear dear friend.
Speaker 1: What about Africa.
Speaker 4: These are the things that I I know, listen, listen,
Speaker 4: I'm saving I'm saving up. That's a trip where I
Speaker 4: want to be able to stay there for the whole month. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: jump from you know, Nigeria to Ghana to do thele
Speaker 4: I want to do it all.
Speaker 1: I want to keep telling myself that too, are we
Speaker 1: overthinking it? Should we just go pick one place to
Speaker 1: go to and like because I'm like, damn, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: waiting for this like magical trip and it still hasn't
Speaker 1: happened for years.
Speaker 4: Mine is fully happening next year one hundred. Like I'm
Speaker 4: locked in. I just need to save I just need
Speaker 4: to save them because I cannot do Australia, Columbia and
Speaker 4: Africa in the same and in what the next two quarters.
Speaker 4: That's just like I'm just starting to adult.
Speaker 5: You're like, I'm not trying to have my own economic
Speaker 5: contraction to two quarters in a row.
Speaker 1: I will say it hurt going to London because the
Speaker 1: dollar is weak, y'all. Like things looked affordable. I was like, ooh,
Speaker 1: cocktails are only nine pounds, but that's like double if
Speaker 1: you're using US dollars.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the pound is strong.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's expensive over there, but yeah, what I'm boosting
Speaker 4: is Google flight alerts and Scotch cheap flights and really
Speaker 4: just saying yes to myself. I saw this.
Speaker 1: He's really good for international.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes it is. I've had like round trip flights
Speaker 4: of Paris for two hundred.
Speaker 3: Oh now it's called going dot.
Speaker 4: Com, Going dot com? Think you think you? Thank you?
Speaker 4: I recommend getting the subscription. It's very cheap, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 4: It's phenomenal. So I'm not being sponsored by them yet.
Speaker 4: I just really love their service. I've been using them
Speaker 4: since over seven years. Right, yes, but yeah, that is
Speaker 4: what I'm boosting, just saying yes to things. Usually I'd
Speaker 4: have to plan out the whole trip before I said yes,
Speaker 4: but this time I just hit pay figure it out.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Everyone. What's your Instagram? Because you post about your travels
Speaker 1: on IG right, I do.
Speaker 4: My Instagram is at moments wac like as in moment
Speaker 4: with Alexa Claire moments wac not moments whack got it.
Speaker 4: That's what my brother calls it, my little brother. He's like,
Speaker 4: why would you do that?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I gave a little sister energy.
Speaker 5: I am all right, take you.
Speaker 4: I was when I made it.
Speaker 5: Okay, I have a boost and it's riding a bicycle.
Speaker 5: So on an upcoming episode of Explain It to Me,
Speaker 5: we get a question about bike lanes, you know, why
Speaker 5: are some cities.
Speaker 3: Better about having them than others?
Speaker 5: And my producer Miles Brian was like, hey, yeah, let's
Speaker 5: do this. He's a bike guy, like your complete opposites.
Speaker 5: He is very very tall. I am quite short, and
Speaker 5: he like is a full on like bike or he's like,
Speaker 5: I get the span Dex going on the weekends, Like
Speaker 5: I got my helmet.
Speaker 3: I go, y'all.
Speaker 5: I had not gotten on a bike since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5: It's true that you never forget, you know. We're like,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get some tape.
Speaker 3: I got on there.
Speaker 5: I was wobbly at first, but y'all, you never forget
Speaker 5: how to ride a bicycle.
Speaker 3: And once I was doing it, I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, I should do this more.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I downloaded the little like a bike share app, and
Speaker 5: I just go and I and im like I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not like in a ooh.
Speaker 5: This is how I'm gonna get to work because part
Speaker 5: of the reason, you know, hence the bike lanes, Like
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm not trying to get hit.
Speaker 3: By a car out here. It's it's quite spooky, but.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll go on a leisurely ride on the
Speaker 5: weekend or after work. Now, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: keep this muscle going. I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay with it.
Speaker 3: I think DC has the Capitol Bikes, right, yeah, Capitol
Speaker 3: Bike Share. You just download the app, go up to it,
Speaker 3: and then you about you.
Speaker 4: Just go about it.
Speaker 1: It's sounds like an ex bikes.
Speaker 5: I have not done the e bikes. Apparently they go
Speaker 5: like super fast. But oh yeah, really I busted my
Speaker 5: booty on yeah, that's why. That's why I have not
Speaker 5: done the e bike. But I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: get my sea legs. Maybe maybe one day y'all will
Speaker 5: find me down, you know, on the National Mall going
Speaker 5: on a leisurely ride with my friends.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to bring that back. Touching grass, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: you touch a grass.
Speaker 4: Oh frolic this summer. Yes, something brings me so much
Speaker 4: joy about seeing a black woman on a bike. Every
Speaker 4: time I see it, I'm like, yes, i feel like
Speaker 4: I'm getting my care. I just love it.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm getting my care in Bailey ray On.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, so, if y'all want to hear me,
Speaker 5: struggle and then not struggle on a bike. Listen to
Speaker 5: this week's episode of Explain It to Me, because it's
Speaker 5: it's quite a ride.
Speaker 1: I used to have a bike blog back in the
Speaker 1: when I first moved to New York and I bi
Speaker 1: I blogged about biking in New York and I was
Speaker 1: such a dork about it. But it is instant and dorphin,
Speaker 1: so I'm very excited to listen to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all. Well that's it for the Brown Table.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all both so much for joining me, and thank
Speaker 1: you also to Eve Saint Louis. I keep wanting to
Speaker 1: say Eve Saint Laurent, but that's not at all her name,
Speaker 1: Eve Saint Louis from Blavity for joining us. We have
Speaker 1: Alexa Claire go check her out at the Financial Diet.
Speaker 1: And your Instagram again is moments whack wac going with it.
Speaker 4: JQ.
Speaker 1: Where can the people find you, ma'am?
Speaker 5: You can find me in your podcast feed if you
Speaker 5: type and explain it to me, and then on social media,
Speaker 5: I'm Jacque Hill everywhere I feel like being found.
Speaker 4: Amazing.
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