WEBVTT - Cowboy Carter Brilliance, Billionaire Bros, and the Burden of Grace 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.240 I don't think anyone I know personally has been out 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.680 there protesting, But I don't understand why it escalated to 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.399 the point where we are sending out Marines National Guard 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:10.240 for a peaceful protest. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:15.040 I just don't understand, of all of the things to 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.360 send resources for, this is this is not? 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:18.759 It? 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.239 Such a dramatic response to a peaceful protest just has 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.360 me feeling, you know, like the dictatorship vibe when they 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:28.120 cracked on on any little, any little noise, any little pete. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:29.800 I'm cracking down on you. So you see what's gonna 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.120 happen if you ever try to do anything big. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.879 Hey, hey va fam, Welcome back to the Brown Table 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.640 my Wednesday show. Have you all noticed that we air 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:42.920 three times a week now? And when I say we, 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.159 I mean we. I just wanted why do I have 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:47.680 three shows? 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:47.800 Now? 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:49.360 Well, first let me tell you what the three shows are. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.720 For those who are new, for those who have recently 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.640 found us, we got our Monday episode. Monday is where 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.200 I'm calling it Monday Motivation. So we have our interviews 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.960 with illustrious guests such Jazz We recently, oh gosh, we've 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.280 had so many great guests recently. We've had Zarda Garg 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.800 New York Times bestselling author and comedian. We've had Cebo Campbell, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.360 best selling author of the Brown Ambition book club pick 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:15.160 for June Sky Full of Elephants. We just had Rachel 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.800 Laier doctor, sorry, doctor Rachel Laia, the author of the 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.600 new book Black Capitalism, which I'll got to check out. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.640 So that's our Monday episode. And Wednesday is my baby. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.520 My favorite is the Brown Tables where we get together 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.920 with some friends of the show, friends of mine, friends 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.880 of the show, and we just chat. We chat about 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.800 what's happening in the world, what's going on in pop culture, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.680 what's going on in your pockets and our pockets. And 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.240 this is a first. I have three first time Brown 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.880 Table guests on the show. I think we might explode 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:52.120 from the melanin magic right now, like I don't. And 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.600 then on Friday we're going to do our ba q 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.120 and a. So that's what we have going for you. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.000 Don't forget Brown Ambition, fam I just launch the patreons 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.560 if you want details and how you can join the 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.600 Patreon and get actually live front row seats to Brown 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.840 Table recordings with your membership and the book club and 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.560 all that stuff. You can check the show notes or 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.000 go to patreon dot com slash Brown Ambition and without 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.400 further azoo, I want to introduce you to my guest 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.160 today who. Let's go in alphabetical order. Let's start with 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.480 you alexas say hey, Toda. Alex is like, dame it. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.760 No, I'm happy. I'm happy. I just knew it. I 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:31.919 was like, I know I'm gonna start first. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.320 I know I'm gonna start well, too bad. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:39.760 I love it. Oh good, hello everyone. I'm so happy 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.520 to be here. I've been part of the BAFM for 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.840 a minute, but only as a listener, So getting to 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.919 join today, as you know, just being on the other 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.480 side has been I well, I know it's going to 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.320 be great, but it is awesome just to be here 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.840 in general seeing you all. My name is Alexa Claire 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.679 or Alexa Brooks Major is the full name. I work 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.919 as the content and duction manager at the Financial Diet, 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:07.119 a finance media company all about supporting women with their finances, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.000 their personal finances and finding really dynamic ways to share 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.480 content about how your personal finances are very much an 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.720 introducesciplinary situation right like they're very much like aligned with 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.640 so many different parts of your life, and so we 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.560 do a lot of work on making sure that women 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.200 are aware of that and how to best support themselves 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.320 in that. And I'm really happy to be here with you. 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.600 Love it And you're in New York, right, Alexa. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.200 I am for the next two months. I am in 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.880 New York, although I am typically DC based. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:36.240 Where are you going? 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.760 I well, what do you mean where am I going? 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:40.920 You're going back to DC, U said, you may sound 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:41.440 like you're moving. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.800 I mean, I'm only here for a quick little sublet 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.680 helping a friend out. I sow Yap said, would you 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.160 come here for a little bit. I'm like, yes, of 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.080 course I will. You don't have to ask me twice. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.560 Come to New York. Absolutely, But it's only for two months, 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:56.960 and then she has to take it back. I can't 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.520 steal my friend's sublet. I mean, that'd be a terreact. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.560 Oh well, that just keep that Renter mindset in mind 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.320 for when we get to our question today, because it's 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.600 a doozy okay, gotcha? All right, Alexa, Financial Diet. Everyone 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.680 loves that brand, big huge YouTube brand. All right, let's 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.200 see I know that why definitely comes last in the alphabet, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.000 so we only skip to John Quillan. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.760 Hello, Hello, I am John Glen Hill. I am the 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.839 host of Explain It to Me, a podcast from vox 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.000 where we answer listener questions we get. We get a 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.279 lot of economic questions and personal finance questions, which Mandy, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.919 I'm sure is no surprise to you. You've been on tape. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:38.960 I've been on it. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.599 It was so fun. Your voice probably sounds familiar to 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:42.839 some BA fan if they listen. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.359 Yeah, and you know, I'm based in DC and so 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.200 out here answering questions for the folks, trying to get them. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.240 So you're in DC, okay, So you and Alexakim be pals. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.720 I went to Howard and state out here. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.760 That's probably the longest I've gone without like mentioning the 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.880 fact that I went to Howard because, like most Howard alum, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.000 I'm annoying about it. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.680 But how are we gonna know if you don't let 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.360 us know. You know what I mean, It's in the slogan. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.200 You know, you gotta know that's also true. 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.200 But it's like people are like, uh, of course you did, 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.200 and I'm like, I'm so sorry, We're not just like 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:20.080 this like something. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:24.520 Deservedly so deservedly so all right, welcome. How long have 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.159 you been at vox Strongkoland by the way, Oh sorry, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:27.080 now we can call you JQ. 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.960 Yeah, well John one JQ. They're interchangeable. I've been here 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.040 since twenty twenty two. It's gonna be three years. Actually, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.440 I think I've hit the three year mark. Now, Oh okay, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.800 let me know. If you get in a little three 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.720 year itch, I can help you out. Media girlies. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.880 All right, Evie Saint Luis, welcome your turn. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.680 Hello, Hello, I'm so excited to be here, especially with 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.039 all these lovely ladies. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.000 So my name is Evie Saint Louis. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.359 I'm the VP of Digital Operations and Strategy at Blavity. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.240 So Blavity we serve We're a huge media company. We 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.200 serve black millennials and gen z. Some of the platforms 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.360 that you all probably have seen include Travel Noir, Blavity 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.880 twenty one ninety, Travel Noir, so, lots of amazing platforms 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.840 that we are serving a lot of the brown ambition audience. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.560 So I'm at the forefront of black culture. Did you 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.119 go to the BET Awards last night or the night before? 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:26.159 When was it? 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:27.159 No? 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:27.919 I did not? 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:29.200 That was Oh. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.200 Goodness, So you and I met. I love how I met, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.760 so JQ. You asked me to be on your podcast. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.920 That's how we met. That's fun. Alexa. I adopted her 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.280 from Actually there's a connection with Blavity because Alexa and 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.039 I both went to Morgan's book, a CEO of Blavity. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.720 Morgan her new book, Rewrite the Rules. 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:47.960 Go Get It. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.599 We met at her book launch party in New York. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:52.080 Who did? 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:53.400 And then I adopted you? 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.719 Yes, yes, yes, yes, that big small you wars took 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:57.160 me right. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.320 In my big social ingnxiety, like just going with a 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.960 smile and say hi, it works. And then I just 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.480 adopt new friends. And alexas like, wait, we were with 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.440 your friends. I'm like, yeah, No, when I make a friend, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.120 I make a friend. I that's it. I'll bring you 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.400 chicken soup when you're sick, like what you want? You know, Like, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.760 I go there and Evie we sat next to each other. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.000 We met at the We met at Afrotech last year 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.440 for the first time. You're newly wed? Is that right? 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.520 I am? I guess now is it still newly wet? 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:33.160 It's been seven ish with some moth October to June, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.720 so whatever that is, it's under a year. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.160 So I guess it's still newly wet. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.480 I guess, Oh yeah, I mean I hope so yeah, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:47.200 I mean, I mean for your sake, like I mean, 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.520 we all go through our rough patches at different times, 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.440 but I mean, like you still like him. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.560 I hope, yes, I still like him. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.960 We were still here, We're still growing strong. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.720 So and where are you based? Ev? 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.720 I'm in Brooklyn, Okay, all right? 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.120 East Coast Girlies today. I love it. And I'm Mandy 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.680 Money blah blah blah. Y'all know me. I'm here, I'm here, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.200 I'm your host. I'm in New York too. Let's get 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.640 into it. There's been so much happening, and I kind 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.800 of stress save myself, like clip a little like links 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.760 and I'll DM myself, I'll slack myself, I'll email myself, like, 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.360 don't forget to talk about this, don't forget to talk 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.000 about that. But what has been for y'all? Right now, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.600 I have my list, but I want to know, like 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.480 what has been? And y'all are all in media, what's 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.400 been like the headline of the week for y'all the 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:35.640 past week that seems to be having the girlies talk? 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:41.600 Ooh ooh, Okay, I feel like it's changed because at 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.640 one point it was all like, oh my god, the 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:48.040 bromance between Elon Musk and President Trump is ended, and 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:51.480 then LA happened, and it was like, just kidding, that 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.040 is not the top news anymore. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.640 I think it was a stunt just to make that happen. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.920 Which part I think that people were so obsessed with 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.760 the Real Housewife drama of Donald Trump and Elon Musk 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.400 going each other's through roads on Twitter or whatever social 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.440 media they used that that Trump was. Trump's team was like, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.520 we got to do something. Let's just deploy the National Guard. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.240 Let's get some anybody. Can we get the Marines? Can 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.880 we get can we get the military to La. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.520 To can can we get them some good one line 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:27.640 to what was it? He said, He's like if they 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.559 if they hit, will if they spit, will hit something. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:31.679 He said, who said that? 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.319 Did you guys hear? But Trump said? Trump said that. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.680 He said that if the protesters like spit at the 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.480 officers or anything like that, it'll give the officers reason 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.720 to hit something like that. I absolutely read that as 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:48.000 CNN or CBS one of those you need to get 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.760 a one liner going. It was really what like that 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:54.040 whole like offering a whole Uh what's it called distraction? 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:55.719 That Trump versus what. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:56.920 A world we live in? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:57.520 Like? 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.600 What? What a what a concept? I just can't even imagine. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:07.040 I mean even I mean you mentioned bet earlier on right, 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.120 and how that's also in LA and so she did 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.320 a really good job of you know, shedding light and 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.680 bring that to also a huge thing that the girls 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.920 are talking about and performances and all that kind of stuff. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.200 But it's just so interesting, how like how do we 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.120 get here? Why are we here again? Oh? 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:30.280 Right? Yeah, it was just you know, two hundreds and 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:31.840 hundreds of millions of dollars. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.400 In It's Musk's fault. It's all his fault. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.439 In America's Wait. So I have not had a chance 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.160 to I just got back from London. Flex now flex 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:42.640 and see. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.440 But I'm wearing my new cat all the did you 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:47.440 have beans on toes? 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:48.000 Wait? 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.160 You saw Beyonce, That's why you were there? 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.920 Yes, God, I am. I'm like two weeks late to 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.160 the Beyonce glow, like the Beyonce cowwait carter for discourse, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.520 because of course y'all, y'all don't seen her in all 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.120 the majors that he's in the US so far. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.360 Oh no, she hasn't come to DC yet. I'm also waiting. Yeah, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.440 she's doing the She's doing the July fourth show here. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.520 That's what I'm going to do. Oh America. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.480 See that's oh yes, I saw her in London, all 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.560 the Londoners. There's so I didn't realize how just how 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.920 like rational and logical everyone in Britain is, because the 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.200 number one question we got was but didn't didn't she 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.960 just play in America? Wasn't she just in New York? 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.719 And I'm like, well, yeah, but. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:31.679 Fun. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.840 We thought we would do fun. I have a fun trick, like, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.439 oh my gosh, I can't travel right. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.880 Yeah, but it was so it was amazing. I went 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.840 with a couple of girlfriends and my long long time 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.320 college boyfriend, not boyfriend, Baron Brown, who he and I 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.040 had gone to Renaissance a couple of years ago, and 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.600 I knew I was going to be in for an 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.720 incredible show because Renaissance. I still have this like glow 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.520 in my chest from that experience and how in credible 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.559 it felt. And I'm just like Beyonce says, like I 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.320 got everything I paid for, truly it rained. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.120 Do you feel like all of the stuff, I mean 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.320 it was heavily on like TikTok and everywhere on social media. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.760 Do you feel like any of that had any impact 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.720 on your perform like your experience there? 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.200 Well, I don't really. I wasn't watching clips. I knew 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.680 if I saw some outfits, it wouldn't matter because she 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.560 changes them up anyway. Like I saw some clips and 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.640 my brother took his surprise as girlfriend with because he's 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.040 the best, and surprised her with a trip to Cali 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.120 to see her in la and so I had seen 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.480 some of the effects and stuff, but you know, it 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.120 doesn't I really didn't feel like it mattered. And I 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.280 had gotten these tickets. It's so funny because like half 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.880 my friends who went there like in their forties. I 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.120 have one friend and it was like some of her 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.040 college friends and then me and Baron, And when we 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.200 were getting tickets, it became very clear that not everybody 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:01.480 wanted to stand for three hours. So yeah, so my 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.880 my other friends they got seats, they got great seats, 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.920 but in the in the in the stands. But I 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.960 had been so lucky. I went with my former co 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.120 host Tiffany last time and through one of her connections, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.439 we got upgraded to the pit like what was a 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.559 club renaissance, which is like the standing room only section 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.840 next to the stage, And it was magical and just 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:26.320 the have met and just like Beyonce's like I just 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.200 remember her performing Break my Soul like right in front 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.440 of me, and I was like, okay, we're doing that again. Yeah, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.240 let's run it back, Let's do that again. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.480 So yeah, we. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.240 Spent like the again the cost of like a small 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:44.400 home appliance on tickets, but this time the stage. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:44.400 Is set up. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:45.560 Did y'all go to Renaissance? 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:47.000 Oh? 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.640 Absolutely, yeah, yes, I mean I'm just I'm leaving. I'm 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.000 holding spings for those of you who are not Beyonce 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.000 fanatics like me, but we all be Hive. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:56.760 Of course I am. 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.280 I've been, like I've been a fan since like no no, no, no, 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.320 no Part two, Like it just her career makes me 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.439 think of my childhood. And I also think I don't 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.640 think this is a hot take. I think every generation 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.160 has the ones in a lifetime performer, and I do 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.600 think she is our greatest living performer. Like are there 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.719 people you know? And people like there are people who 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.520 sing better? I mean, I'm like, yeah, technically, but she 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.160 sounds the way she does in the studio, she's dancing, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.200 she's giving you a show. I think she is arguably 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.000 our greatest living entertainer right now. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:31.320 I have no argument. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:37.479 There's something so powerful and enjoyable about watching someone, specifically 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.400 a black woman, do exactly what she was meant to do, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.320 and to do it on such an international, just global 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.400 stage where no one can say can look at her 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.480 and say you don't work hard, No one can look 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.440 at her and say you didn't put your rolliet this. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.240 That alone, no matter how we feel about her vocal 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:02.000 ability or anything else, like that speaks above everything else 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.080 to me. And there's something about watching someone do that 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.800 that is so like I can't help but respect you. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.080 I can't help but cheer you on. Do I have 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.560 eight hundred dollars for your concert tickets? Maybe not? Maybe not, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.520 But you will never see me say a negative word 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.760 about you you want social media or anywhere else like, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.000 I will support what you do. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.560 Have I agree? 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.320 I think like her work ethic, it doesn't matter what 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.720 you do, what industry that you are in, or whatever, 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.120 like you have got to be inspired by this woman 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.760 and what this black woman and what she's able to 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.440 do and accomplish, and also just how much work she 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.360 puts into it to be this. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.760 You know, I think JQ you mentioned it. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.160 Honestly, I agree the probably one of the best performance 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:54.400 of our time, right like singing, dancing, walking in rain. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.080 All the if your vocals are still they're so vocaling, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:59.360 you know, I. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.760 Just you just can't. It doesn't matter what how you're 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.840 in or or whatever. You have to be inspired by her. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.520 You have to just appreciate the artistry. You have to 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.840 actively not want to be inspired. And those people I 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.280 choose not to associate with because why would you choose? 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.240 Why would you choose to not enjoy that that sunshine? 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.360 It's like people who stay inside on a beautiful day, 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.720 Like that's your choice, but like why would why would 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.440 you not choose to stand in the sun? Because that 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.480 is what she is. And you know, I got I 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.560 got back from the concert my dad. My dad's heavily. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.120 Do your parents send you Facebook Facebook links that you 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.320 know are going to have, like you know, like conspiracy 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:46.520 theories and yeah, I get you get them via What's Up? Yeah, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.120 So my dad sent me some link and it was 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:52.160 about how it was some like conspiracy theory slash like 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:56.560 religious bru haha, about like how Beyonce fans they suffer 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:01.640 from amnesia after a concert because we're so emotionally excited. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.399 And I was just like, okay, but it's like also, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.719 you know, demon symbols and people, you know, celebrating false 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.280 idols and all that kind of stuff. But when I 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.560 tell you, I truly and there's worse things to worship 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:21.680 then an extension of the Lord himself. Artists like Beyonce 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.919 are vessels. I'm not even that religious, but like you 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.959 really feel like, oh, she's here for a bigger purpose. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.560 She is a vessel from you know, God is love, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.400 is what I believe, and she is a vessel of love, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.560 and it's just so why would you deny that? It 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.359 feels so good? And I remember all the staff at 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.200 the stadium were saying how Beyonce fans are the nicest 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.960 and how we just bring such great vibes. And I 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.400 believe it because she just exudes love and her babies 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.520 are on stage and and the I won't spoil it 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.679 for you, JQ and Evie and Alexa. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.000 Are you going to see her or have you already 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:55.240 seen it. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.160 I don't think I'm going to. I want to, but yeah, 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.040 some last night its online there. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.119 I was about to say, there's that girl who is 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.520 on TikTok and she will buy her concert tickets on 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.399 the way to the concert and get them for like 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.160 significantly less. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.080 Exactly what you were talking about. You see. It's the 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:16.520 older sister OCD part of me. The anxiety is I 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.520 the idea of getting fully dressed up going out there 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.320 and like not knowing for sure that I will have 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.080 the space for me that I'll get in. Oh my god. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.240 I just yeah, like. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.480 Yeah, I'm gonna try. I'll try. But like you guys, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.760 you don't have to understand the anxiety that is like 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.120 my biggest opponent here. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:36.880 I get it. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:38.000 Well. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.719 London weather was weathering. It was like full on it 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.399 was raining, it was cold, but I was still in 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.879 my denim shorts and I were like I was I 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.159 just knew I was gonna be I was in the 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.200 honeybucking pit and I was like, gonna be surrounded by bodies. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.480 It's going to be great. And it rained at the 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.560 most like perfect points. It rained at the beginning and 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.920 it just kind of like drizzled and she's in the rain. 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.560 It's just made everything. And at the end, when she's 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.800 doing her closing number, it started to rain again. And 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.199 you know, I won't spoil the closing number. I did 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.440 keep the set list a secret for myself. But god, 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.160 like when she's singing and you know she has the visuals, 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.679 the visuals. I remember the visuals from Renaissance, but I 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.959 think the visuals from this tour are exceptional. Like we 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.040 were all just glued to the screen, and some of 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:26.000 the visuals full on ugly tears, full on ugly. You 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.600 might be able to imagine the points in which me 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:33.520 a mom cried, but it was it was just, it 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.920 was everything. And I booked myself a massage the next 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:38.520 morning because I knew my legs were going. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.760 To be so so smart. It was very smart. 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:48.520 And then yeah, of course, yeah Rumy each one or 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.520 was it just a couple? I think everyone, Yeah, Rumy 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.720 came out for a little bit and oh my god, 0:19:54.840 --> 0:20:03.800 Blue Blue seeing her growth like, blew me away, blew 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.199 everybody away, got the biggest applause. She was such a 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:07.959 big girl. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.040 But I'm also like, that's that baby that was in 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.399 her belly at the VMA's what is time? 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:13.280 Am I old? 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:14.320 What's going on? 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.439 Isn't it incredible? And it's just but that's what I mean, Like, 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.680 that's what you mean. JQ by the artist of our time, 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.000 because even her children are becoming like we all feel 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.840 like Auntie's Like I truly feel like I'm Blue's Auntie. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.840 Like anything she needs, I'll be there. No one's ever 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.160 calling me for her, but like I would be there 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.720 for her, and uh and she's just a kid and anyway, 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.280 just you just feel the love and that and if 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.359 I can just like carry an ounce of that energy 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.360 with me and share that with the world like that 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.280 is that is an accomplishment. So yeah, go see it. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.560 I'm trying to convince y'all. But that's fine. 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.040 Oh I'm there, I'm I'm there. What am I gonna wear? 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:56.360 I don't know, but. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.520 I want I'll be there. I got my hat the 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.880 day before or from like TJ Max. It's like I'm 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.040 gonna post something about it. It's like this, like what 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:05.880 do you like? There's like the sun hats that are 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.000 like a cowboy hat, but they're like made out of 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.000 mesh or something. They're folded bowl and it was raining 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.080 right and it wasn't just raining, but I was like, 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.720 I'm dancing, I'm pulling my hair, I'm pet in the hat, 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.560 I'm swinging the hat. I'm like getting into it. By 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:20.919 the way, I think I was on screen for like 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.800 point five seconds. One of my friends that she's all made, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:25.920 she was like, yeah, you were going bang bang bait. 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:28.360 But my hat. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.160 By the end of the concert, I can't even use 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.399 these photos. The hat is so flat. It just looks 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:39.199 like someone's old, rusty, like old dead shoe on my 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:45.400 head was not cute anymore. And then yeah, I got 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:46.920 on the plane and I catch you up on news 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.720 and it's like, oh, la protests, oh elon mu. I 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.080 really had not been clocked into the whole Elon versus 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:52.800 Trump of it all. 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:56.160 It happened very quickly. 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.240 I feel like it went from we're good to we're 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.200 not good, very very fast. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:02.959 And then it just but then it got and then 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.920 it went poof like they haven't really been beefing online, 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.800 Like do you think that they have met and they 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.640 have both said I got dirt on you, you got dirt 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.520 on me. We got to cut this out. 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.119 I don't even know if it's so much that as 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.800 much as just like they both kind of need each 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:21.960 other in interesting ways. 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:23.840 Like Elon Musk is a huge donor. 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:28.280 He the way he funded that campaign and even the 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.359 judge election in Wisconsin, I mean. 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.160 Yeah, other elections. The whole Republican Party needs that man. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.840 Yeah, and then Trump has the big following it. Just 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:43.639 I think it's it's a relationship that they can government contract. Yeah, 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.800 they both benefit from the relationship. So it's a thing 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.160 of like, Okay, maybe we actually should keep this cute. 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:49.840 Plus they have lots of mutual friends. 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.000 I think it's that thing of I don't know, if 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.720 you like, if a friend breakup and you have so 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.520 many mutual friends, where like people. 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.960 Are like you, guys, this is not you, Like you 0:22:59.000 --> 0:22:59.639 got to keep. 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.760 A chill, Like you're both gonna be at the birthday dinner. 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:03.119 You have to. 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.119 And I think it's that sort of situation, but just 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.240 with much higher stakes. 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.720 I think they're both very high egos here, right, Like 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.600 very very high egos. So I could see a world 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.879 where they're both kind of like super stubborn and like 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:21.439 oh I did this, or like Elon said this, so 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.960 I'm not going to you know, like I could definitely 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.240 see a world where they draw this out a little 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:31.840 bit more right, or they just like never get back 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.480 and they just continue doing this to each other. 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:36.879 So I don't know, that's just my thoughts. 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.640 I think it'll go into being a bunch of little 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.440 mini transgressions moving forward, like you see them in front 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.240 of each other, and like Trump refuses to acknowledge him, 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.159 like looking at him, or you know, Elon's like that 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.560 guy instead of saying President Trump like just the small 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:56.880 things that for themselves feed their own egos and whatnot, 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.439 but aren't going to absolutely we roptued the relationship that 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:02.800 they need to have continue. 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:05.879 I think Trump, I mean, I think Elon needs to 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.520 release the Epstein file that he said, or like the dirt, 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.960 because didn't he say that Trump is in the Epstein 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.359 files in it. Jamale Hill had my you know, I 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.440 wasn't really into the beef. My friend is very she's 0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:19.480 very she works with the government, she's very into it. 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.439 And she was just like, did you see this what 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:21.760 he said? 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.120 Da da da, And I just I'm like, I can't 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.560 watch these childre there's bigger things like going on in 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.919 the world. But she sent me. What was funny was 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.360 the reactions from Twitter because black twitter never failed. Oh 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.800 now Twitter was a great day that day, and now 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.040 it's black threads. I don't I don't do I don't 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.959 do X, I don't do Twitter, but I'm on threads 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.640 and I think Jamale Hill had my favorite. She had 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.359 like a meme of the Kendrick meme for the Super 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.600 Bowl where he's smiling, you know, and it was like 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.760 Elon to Trump because he's basically calling Trump. 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.280 Yeah you know what, Well, he he did delete the post. 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.520 He did. Indeed he deleted that one. 0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:00.240 Uh yeah, I think he did. Yeah about the Epstein, Yeah, 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:01.680 he went back and to lead some posts. 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.639 So I think I think they were. They were probably 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.919 having some conversations online. It would not surprise me. 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:09.280 You mean offline. 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.080 Yeah, That's what I meant. They're having conversations offline. 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.480 You think he's getting threatened, I mean not. I mean 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.840 I know that Elon's has money, but Trump literally is 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:24.200 the commander of the free world. Like he has money, power, 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.199 he has military, he got CIA, he got black ops, 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.119 like he can do whatever he wants. I would not 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.040 be messing around Elon. Musk might get your ass deported 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.600 back to South Africa. Could be good for us. Did 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:39.760 we not hate him? We hate him? 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:40.399 Right, we hate him? 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.640 Get him out? But it's like, who do we hate more? 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:43.120 Do we want? 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:43.439 We do? 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.200 Want Elon to stick around so that he can give 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.359 us enough dirt on Trump so that he's finally like 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.159 done or is Elon the bigger threat. 0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:56.200 If I learned anything during the first Trump administration, it's 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.720 expect the unexpected. You just never know what's gonna happen. 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:03.159 It's just there's no way to get a sense. You 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.240 can like guess how the reactions are gonna be. But 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:08.840 I mean, it really is a who's to say? 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:10.640 People? 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.399 Wait, can I actually I want to I want to 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.600 push back there a little bit expecting unexpected because I 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.480 feel like Trump, every single thing this man has said 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:21.159 he's gonna do is what he does. As ridiculous as 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.159 it is, is what he does. So is it like 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.719 it's like it's more like, in my opinion, expect exactly 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:31.000 what he says he's gonna Yeah, yeah, I think policy wise, 0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:32.920 tell me he come back at me. No, I think 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.600 for sure, policy wise, like he's especially now that he 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:38.639 doesn't have to run for reelection, Like absolutely, we're seeing 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.879 a lot of more moves. But I think as far 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.800 as like the interpersonal, the palace intrigue, that is where 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.480 the wild card lies, because there were a lot of 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.960 people who didn't think the relationship with Musk was gonna 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.480 last this long, and honestly, I think, you know, things 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.439 were winding down. I think a major part of the 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.560 reason things fell apart. Like I've read some reporting on this, 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.080 like Trump was not happy about the piece that came 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:07.480 out about Elon Musk and his alleged ketamine use. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.520 Like Trump is very much a teetoller. 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.199 He does not drink, Like he doesn't do drug Like 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:13.879 that is not his thing at all, and for that 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.800 to come out, I think, yeah, it's like very Yeah, it's. 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.840 Like very known, like Trump does not drink, and so. 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.800 That you found a way to use teetllar in a sentence. 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.880 I know, I kept that one in my back pocket. 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.280 I haven't old mom to that. I love it. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.480 Yeah, but yeah, I think that was I think. I mean, 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.040 I think things were rough prior to that. And also, 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.439 like Musk is very displeased with this bill because he 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.600 feels like it's undoing a lot of the work that 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.240 he did to cut spending and you know. 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.280 Tax cuts beautiful bullshit. 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.560 That's not going to bring in more money. So I 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.439 think like it just it reached a fever pitch plus ego, 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.280 the girls were fighting, but now they've calmed down. 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:04.159 But the girls, hey, ba fam, we got to take 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.080 a quick break, pay some bills and we'll be right back. 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.200 All right, ba fam, we're back. Well, they've calmed down. 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:11.879 And the next thing that has been in the news 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.280 were the ice raids. And do y'all know anybody on 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.040 the West coast I was following. I don't think anyone 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.000 I know personally has been out there protesting, But I 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.440 don't understand why it escalated to the point where we 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.880 are sending out Marines National Guard for a peaceful protest. 0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.240 It's quite I don't terrifying. 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.119 I don't understand that either. And so what you said 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.640 earlier of it, you know, this all plays into it. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.280 I'm like, hmm, that's a possibility. But I just don't 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:46.400 understand of all of the the things to send resources 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.760 for this is this is not it like this is 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.160 just not it so and of all places too, like LA, 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.440 I just don't understand that aspect at all. 0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.120 It's such a dramatic response. Students will protest just has 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.600 me feeling, you know, the dictatorship vibe when they cracked 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.960 on on any little, any little noise, any little peep, 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.640 I'm cracking down on you. So you see what's gonna 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.400 happen if you ever try to do anything big, Like 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.720 I really and that's I mean, and it's it's common 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.880 across the maror especially considering who is protesting, right, I 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.640 would like to actually I wish I'd been able to 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.640 research this, but specifically like the neighborhoods in not the 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:24.480 neighborhood specifically, like like the people who are protesting, Like 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:28.040 what is the racial demographic of people showing up. I'd 0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.280 be very curious to know that, because I'm wondering if that, 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.959 by any any means had to do with the dramatic response, 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.240 because I'm just thinking LA protests. When black and brown 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.240 people are protesting, or when people are protesting for black 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:46.560 and brown people, the response is always extremely dramatic. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.240 I'm looking at some of the all the neighborhoods that 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.760 it started out in this neighborhood. Well there was like 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:58.200 a clothing wholesaler. I don't where was that neighborhood. I 0:29:58.480 --> 0:29:59.920 need to look that up. But there was a clo 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.560 Oh wholesaler where first the ice ray was going to happen. 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.440 But then the next day the word got around that 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.080 there was going to be a raid in this town 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:12.000 called Paramount, at a home depot, and then I think 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.480 what you are seeing is a lot of I think, well, 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.480 it's affecting Latinos and we're talking about La We're talking 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:24.040 like this is like heavily, heavily populated by the very 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.520 people who are being targeted. So the people who were 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.120 working at these places were calling family friends, and then 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.600 work gets out. So you see a lot of Mexican 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.960 flags waving. You see some really choice signs, a lot 0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.960 of signs in Spanish. There's one sign that says National Guard. Lol. 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.760 There's a lot of ice out of La deport maga, 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:51.840 not the people. But it's peaceful protesting. I mean it 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.840 it harkens back. I feel like too. I'm thinking about 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.760 the summer of twenty twenty in the Black Lives Matter 0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:01.120 protests and the fear that you had about the protesters 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.840 themselves put in themselves in harm's way, And I do 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.040 feel like what you were saying rings true of when 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.640 it is a black and brown issue at the heart 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.560 of it, it's like we're gonna we need to get 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.680 our get the guns out, you know, bring them in, 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.320 because these people are savages. We must control them. That's 0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.600 another like that's an echo of the BLM movement and 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.240 protests that I feel like we're hearing today. 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.120 I think it really is like the reason the National 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.720 Guard was called. All of it. It's about a show 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:30.240 of power. 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.120 Like I think part of it is like, Okay, maybe 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.080 this will escalate the situation and we will, you know, 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.560 get video of the way mos on fire and this 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.080 police force, and it's just it's it's really too ratchet 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.800 up to show like, hey, look, la, it's like occupied, 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.280 it's military. I do think that is part of the point. 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.320 And Trump is also he's just a big fan of 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.840 military strength. Like in DC there's gonna be a military 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:58.440 parade on Saturday, which is a. 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.239 Which is why you said always wanted. He gets a 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:02.520 hard on for that kind of stuff. 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.960 It's like the traffic situation is I'm just like, oh 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.840 my gosh, how am I gonna? 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:07.240 Oh? 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:08.320 Is this the first year? 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:09.680 Like does this happen every year? 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:15.360 No, it's like a two hundred and fiftieth anniversary situation. 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.840 But yeah, it's like I know people who have seen 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.360 like streets starting to get shut down. All he just 0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.640 he really enjoys like that military show. And I think 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.320 this is part of it. And I think it's also 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.520 a thing of like, Okay, we can make an example 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:30.800 out of LAC. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.160 I told you i'd be law and order. I told 0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:36.840 you I'd crack down, like I'm doing it. 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.959 Like it's just I think part of the point is 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.360 to sort of escalate the situation. 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:46.240 Yeah, the irony of it happening the very weekend after Pride, 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.000 like the very next weekend, because we had Pride. Yeah, 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.840 does this past weekend you know, Doci was there, Cynthia 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.080 Ribo was there, Khalid was there, like it was a 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.600 whole big thing. And then so it's the very next 0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:00.520 weekend to have a military parade where people we're seeing 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.440 back during this past weekend like outside their windows in Virginia. 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.560 I believe it was on the train tracks, like all 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.880 of the what are those major like canon thing. 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:10.440 Like the tanks and son. 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.360 Yeah, yes, like the tanks were all on the trains 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.880 heading in for the parade. This at the same time 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.840 that we were celebrating Pride and and you know, self 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.600 expression and and these it's just not lost on maybe irony. 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.880 I forgot all about pride. Oh, Cynthia Revo, you know 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.480 what also got lost in the sauce. The Tony's Cynthia 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.760 helped it speaking of gay icons and icons in general 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.840 and vessels from above. Oh my days are all Tony's people? 0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.040 Were you watching? I totally missed it because it was 0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:42.200 I was in London. 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:43.400 I was watching the clips. 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.920 I'm not gonna lie, it's I know it's like corny 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:49.120 and embarrassing now, but I was like, dang that Hamilton 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:49.920 used to hit hard. 0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:50.720 In Filmy sixteen. 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.680 It's I forgot about. I forgot how used to hit 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.800 that hard? I have to run that back look key. 0:33:58.800 --> 0:33:59.720 I don't know if it is. 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.000 I was like, because I remember that those that soundtrack 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.360 was like on for me all the time, like I'm 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.400 running up, I'm hailed it, but I'm doing something like it. 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.600 So I feel like it just was so nostalgic, and 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.680 I really love that they they did all that, and 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.759 I love the presence of the cast like Fors for 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:17.719 the most part of it. 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.919 Those were the clicks I loved watching back too. 0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.880 Yeah, I mean original Broadway cast no flex but a flex. 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:31.400 I did see them, but it was I My brother's 0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.480 like five years younger, and he saw he was not 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.000 in the Hamilton. He was like pointedly like, I didn't 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.000 like it. Why are black and brown bodies being used 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.799 to tell these white slaver stories? But I for the 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.319 art it was. I'm so glad they celebrated it. You 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.439 can't take it from us. I really don't think you can. 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.400 Like it was a cultural movement, and so it launched 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.680 the careers of so many people of color, like and 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.719 it was so powerful. I'm glad that they I wasn't sure. 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:57.440 I thought they were gonna come out like in costume. 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.600 I liked that they wore the sleek, the black, and 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:06.080 just the talent and the electricity of Leslie Odom Junior. 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:10.160 Oh my days. Aaron Burr forever? Isn't he coming back 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:10.959 to be Aaron Burr? 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:12.399 Oh? Is he? 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.960 I think I've read that he's coming back in another 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:23.000 millennial nostalgia. Draco Malfoy himself, Tom Felton is coming back 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:28.560 to play Draco in the Broadway show The Curse Child, 0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.399 which is weird and strange because how could it have been? 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.040 How can he be old enough, but yeah, it was. 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:40.440 It was a moment Audrey McDonald did not win. I 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.400 was really wanting Audrey McDonald to win her like umpteenth Tony, 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:48.239 but she lost to Nicole Scherzinger, which was a thing. 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.160 But yeah, that's interesting. 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.759 Maybe not so surprising that Patti Lapone did not show 0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:55.240 her face. 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.839 Man that I was. 0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.719 I was having a conversation with friends about this, and 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.880 I think I also like was listening to another podcast 0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:07.640 and they mentioned this. 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.520 But it's like, listen, I love a diva. I love 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:11.280 a shady queen. 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:17.400 But part of successfully being a diva is that you 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.880 can't sound like a hater. Like it's funny when Mariah 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.640 says like I don't know her about j Lo, because 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.520 j Lo she's very talented, very gifted dancer. 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:27.480 But there are some things. 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:31.160 Where you're like, oh okay, especially compared to Mariah vocally, 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.520 you sound like it's so easy to sound delusional trying 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:41.040 to take down outro McDonald because she's just so talented, 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.680 Like it's just a thing of like you cannot shade 0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.000 her in that way because you. 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:46.840 Sound like a liar. 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:48.759 Because we all have eyes and ears and we could 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:50.920 see how talented she is, Evie. 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:52.440 Did y'all cover that up, blavity? 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:57.640 We covered the award nominees, not the tea behind it? 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:02.120 No, but didn't get all that versus well, what did 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:06.200 y'all think of Odra? On CBS when Gail asked her, 0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.000 and Gail always makes a note to say we had 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.239 this already schedule, We're not just here for the tea, 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.640 but she asked for Adra, and I did want to 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.880 that's right. I wanted to talk about this because Patty 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:17.680 Lapone and for those of you who lived under rock, 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.200 Patty Lapone had this article come out where she's just 0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.719 like railing Audra McDonald and Keisha Lewis, who are just 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.279 Broadway icons in their own right, calling them bitches and 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.000 don't call yourself a veteran and they're not a friend 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.000 to me, and this nonsense. And Audre was asked like, 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.440 well do you respond? And she was so mature and 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.160 so poised and gave the whole like, you know, I 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.839 haven't talked to Patty in ten to eleven years, but you 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.880 know that's Patty, so let's let's move it on along, 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:49.839 and did not take the bait at all, which which 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:53.440 I think we like, appreciate that, but it's not the 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:56.240 first time where we have had we as black women, 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.799 have had to take that high road and not fight 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:04.200 fight with fire. And the fact that more recently we 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.560 got to talk about Coco golf because French Open winner. 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.200 Don't ask me nothing about tennis, but I love black 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:16.400 women who win. I caldn't tell you a thing, but 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.480 I can tell you what a winner is, and that's 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.400 Cocoa Golf. But she won the French Open. She's like, 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:22.920 what eighteen nineteen. 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:24.719 Yeah, she's a. 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.320 Baby, and she beat a white girl. 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:28.960 Maybe not white. I don't know where she's from, but 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.160 she looked white. Beat a white girl. White girl comes 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.479 out in the press and says, you know, she only 0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.279 won because I was bad that day or I wasn't 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:39.000 playing well. And then Coco was interviewed by Robin Roberts 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.840 and she's like, also like gonna give grace to the 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.759 woman who spoke out and saying like, oh, I'm sure 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.960 it was the moment. She was also very poised and 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:51.600 mature and like, you know, careful about her response. And 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:56.160 I wanted to get y'all's take on that trend or 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.040 not the trend, but like the frequency with which it 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.640 feels like we are having to rise above and take 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:04.840 that Michelle Obama high road when people come for our talent. 0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.960 I mean, also, Coco is twenty one. 0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.239 I oh, she's twenty one. Okay, my bad, Coco, get 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:14.800 you a drink? 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:20.520 Yeah, gets you a drink, but I don't. It's my 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:21.640 pov not. 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.600 It's just it's unfortunate, like we always have to do 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.800 it right all the time. I mean, coming from it's starting. 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.400 I mean, this didn't start, but Michelle Obama, who was 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.720 the first lady who you know, was in the statue 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.600 that she was, was having to do that and within 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:44.040 her platform. And it's not a surprise that Coco has 0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.880 to do that, especially, you know with all of her accolades. 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.399 I mean, Serena if we're talking about, and the same 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.480 thing Arna Williams has to do that constantly, right, So 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.839 it's just it's unfortunate. 0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.680 It's just unfortunate that. 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:03.239 That has not progressed as much as it should have 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:04.960 over time. 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:11.160 Absolutely, and honestly, just like the exhaustion and the weightiness 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:15.520 of having to be the voice of morality, to be 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:19.080 the voice of maturity, like even thinking of DOCI maybe 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.280 I'm just we're just finished speaking about it. But Doughchi 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.839 bringing it up about Trump and what was going on 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:26.640 in LA with the protest. 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.359 Oh no, sure that because I hardly had a chance 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:29.439 to listen. What'd she say? 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.840 Okay? So she was just very much like she was 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.920 accepting her reward as best female hip hop artists, you know, 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.359 being and should and she's I just want to take 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.480 a period swap princess love her. But she was like, 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.440 I want to take a moment to acknowledge what's happening 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:49.640 outside this building quote outside this building, which I love 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.680 that really bringing that kind of proximity, bringing it like 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.080 that kind of reality to what's going on here. It's 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.200 not just oh, a couple of states over, a couple 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.800 of towns over, it's outside this and no one is 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.960 speaking about it. I mean, Snoop Dogg went up on stage, 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:04.920 didn't say anything about it. Mind you. This man's the 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.239 one who you know, was he singing for Trump or yeah? 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.760 Anybody call him out for that either. I was waiting 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.360 for Kevin to get him in the monologue. 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.760 I killed him out his pro semity to Martha Stewart's 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:17.960 what keeps, it's what keeps him safe. But that's that's 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:18.880 another conversation. 0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:19.560 Interesting. 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.880 But I really it's not lost on me that so 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.080 often black women have to carry the weight of that 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:33.000 of being the one that goes high when everyone else 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:36.000 goes low. Of even looking at Simone Biles and my gosh, 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:39.320 just had like a Twitter feud with what was her name? 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.600 She is a Is she a swimmer or track star? 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.960 One of those two? Give me one moment. I'm trying 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.319 to remember exactly what her name was, but she just 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:51.719 had a Twitter situation, is it is it rise? Thank you? Yes, 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:56.200 Riley Gaines, where Riley was essentially making some transphobic remarks 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:01.680 and and Simone pushed back on that, and she's and 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.040 now she is the one who's being like spoken against 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.640 and talked down upon because she dared to speak up 0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.160 about it, whereas usually, you know, she might have you know, 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.400 she would have been expected to stay quiet. Hey, this 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.839 is a your sport, Hey, like mind true business, Hey, 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.160 all this kind of stuff. But it's like, no, I'm 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.320 going to speak for the people who are being spoken 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.799 against in this way, where that Riley Gaines was, I 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:28.000 just yeah, it's really bothered since me, and it really 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:31.600 weighs on me, especially women in sports. That that especially 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.560 bothers me because you're already it's such a mental situation 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.440 of having to prepare yourself to play your sport, right, 0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.400 you have to physically be prepared, but that mental preparation 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:43.000 as well, and then knowing that very few are not 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.960 very few, that's not very true, but so many are 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.600 ready to just jump against you, watching every move, being 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.840 very careful about you know, oh she said this, was 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.680 that a micro question against so and so? Is she 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.960 being a passive aggressive against so and so ready to 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:58.080 piece you apart? I mean, what on earth? 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.279 Can I flip it for a sec? Because you know, 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.640 my reaction was the woman who talked about who said 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.799 whatever Coco Gout's opponent who came out with that, who 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.520 was like they had these terrible post game interviews. I 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.480 who on their worst day wants to be put in 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.240 front of cameras and microphones and told to speak nice? 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.960 Like I almost my heart. I felt myself wanting to 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.960 defend the woman who was mouthing off about Coco a 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.080 little bit because I'm like, we also don't get to 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.120 be angry, and I know that she's or I don't know, 0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:31.719 but I think she's not a woman of color, But 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.840 like I think women in general, like, why can't we 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.960 have a strong emotional reaction. We just saw these two 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:43.840 baby baby billionaires on you know, Twitter, like bickering and 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.120 squabbling and like that somehow is fine, but like women 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.000 like we don't really get to be angry and show 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:53.319 that kind of emotion. And I, strangely enough, I appreciated 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:57.200 Coco for not not because I thought it was something 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.440 that she owed anyone to like not be angry at 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.040 those were more, but because she gave the woman grace 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.880 to have an emotional reaction. And I know Coco herself, 0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.960 we've all said stuff like that about someone that we 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.200 are going up against, like like if I ever see 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:18.600 Kira my my mathematical like Frenemie my my nemesis from 0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.799 twelfth grade ap calc, Like if I ever see what's 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.279 on site, because I should have gotten the highest grade 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.920 in the class like that kind of like competition. I 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:30.399 mean I think that and you see it in sports too, 0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:34.360 with like Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, and I just feel like, 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.440 can we just have strong emotions and be in like 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.120 fight and have that because let's not play that it 0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:44.480 doesn't take that kind of grit and self like confidence 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:49.520 and you know, and determination and badassery to get to 0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.319 where they are and so wow, she got upset. She 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.240 said something that was a little unfair and like yeah, 0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.799 and keep it moving, like we're humans in that way, 0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.480 but we don't get to be Yeah. 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.399 I think that's my biggest beef with the way people 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.799 talk about the WNBA. I'm so glad it's getting so 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:08.160 much more attention. Those women are playing some ball, but 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.600 I feel like people don't let them play ball, Like 0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.120 why is a flagrant foul taking up a week of 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.600 real estate and people's brains? Draymond Green be stomping on 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.120 people's chests and people don't say boo, we're just like 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:23.319 lol haha, which like say me too, like wow, what 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.680 a wild boy, Like we're not like women aren't allowed 0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.920 to do that. I think so much of athleticism and 0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:33.640 sports in particular is about like talking that meant like 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:38.360 talking your mess, like being aggressive, like you're going to 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.120 have conflict and you're going to have to work that 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.600 conflict out. And I really think people struggle with women 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.200 doing that, and that's why the conversations around women's sports 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.280 get so weird so quickly. 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.360 I mean I think that, I mean even within the 0:45:53.400 --> 0:46:00.560 finals right now. Halliburton is known for outlandish reactions to 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.000 you know, like his his his wins or whatever, and 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.800 a lot of that time, like people just sweep that under, 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.919 you know what I mean, and women don't really have 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:15.440 that ability. I think Coco responded to it beautifully. I 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.719 think she absolutely responded to it beautifully. The only thing 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:20.720 that I feel like is a little bit different from 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:25.319 the Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark versus Coco and this 0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:30.440 I think she was a French player, is that she 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:34.400 she a little bit kind of like came after Coco's 0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.480 game of being like she didn't do that great or 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.400 like she didn't even play that hard, like she only 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:41.760 won because of. 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:43.879 Like I had a bad day. 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:47.840 And it's like you can be competitive without you know, 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:54.040 being a little bit shady and also undermining somebody's talent, 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.839 right somebody's work, like you could just. 0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.239 Say like was it was a bad day? 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:00.600 Got it? 0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:04.879 Or you know, feel emotional or anger upset about that, 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.560 but just kind of undermining somebody else's performance who does win. 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.359 I think it's a little bit I. 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.680 Agree, I agree, and I think I think, honestly, the 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.440 high road out there would have been for Steff like 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:21.279 a specifically she's I think she's Lucian actually, but she Yeah, 0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:21.799 I'm going. 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:22.960 Where this girl's from. 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:30.839 None of us knows it's it's Belarus, okay. Focusing on 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.640 the fact that they were that they were having their 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.080 match in an open air on an open air court, 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.520 which is not how they had practiced. They practiced indoor 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:41.920 and the wind was very strong, so I would have 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:43.960 focused more on, like, it's different in an environment that 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.040 I'm you know, playing in. Also the fact that she 0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.880 had seventy unforced errors, like that's a lot, so she 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:53.040 could have focused on on that side of things versus, 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.000 as you said, Evie, like kind of coming for Coco's 0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.880 game one hundred percent. Just talk about the environment that 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.239 your in, talk about the other forces that had to 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:03.120 do with the game other than just your opponent. There's 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.080 so many factors that play in here. 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.239 And as a sports expert, especially with tennis, I know 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:13.600 an error is bad. I want to also give a 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:18.080 quick shine to this California, the sixteen year old from California. 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.719 She was stripped of her title. She had just won 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.799 the four hundred meters state title in running really fast. 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:27.840 I'm sure, and this is hilarious. She brought a fire 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:32.000 extinguisher and after she won, she extinguished her feet like 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:36.360 as a celebration, which I thought was hilarious, but she 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.960 was They called it unsportsmanlike conduct and stripped her of 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:45.400 her state title. That would piss me off, Like, but 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.520 I don't know. The part of me is like is that. 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:49.719 I mean it's kind of over the top, but like 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.320 kind of badass, Like it's hilarious. That generation is funny. 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:57.920 She the top versus like like this is another area 0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.479 where it's like it's theatrical. It's a little over the top. 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.560 It's that's fine, but it's not. It's not like she's 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:09.600 putting any of her opponents down. It's not you know, 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:14.360 being delicious or saying anything bad. It's basically like tooting 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:18.000 her own horn, which is what you do as an athlete. 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:21.720 So I think that was completely uncalled for in my opinion, 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.359 unless it was a safety thing, right, if it was 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.080 like indoors and it was like, you know, this is 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:28.680 the same. 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:33.440 Outside, I'm like, no press. Her and her dad at 0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.799 the press conference with the fire extinguisher. Next to her. 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:40.440 I'm just like, she's sixteen. She went another race, but 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:43.440 it's just that visual. Oh but she's crying, you know, 0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:44.360 she works so hard. 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:46.320 Yeah, it was. 0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.400 She didn't do it near anyone. Her dad handed her 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.080 the fire extinguisher to do it. What had me annoyed 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.640 actually was when the when the regulators or whatever they're called, 0:49:56.760 --> 0:50:00.120 were holding her by the arm and like walking her away. 0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.400 That's what got me. You didn't have to put your 0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:05.319 hands on this child. And that's the point at which 0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.200 the dad jumped over the gate and was like, I'm 0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.719 not a coach anymore, I'm a dad, which I point. 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:13.040 I was like, yes, so oh did he okay? Right 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.840 to touch her to lead her away. She wasn't fighting 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.640 against them, She just turned because they got her attention, 0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.640 turned to them, put the fire stot her down to 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.480 speak with them. That's when they grabbed her by the 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.960 arm at the elbow, at which point I'm like, this 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.160 did not need to escalate to you touching her at all. 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.400 That is what got me upset. The rest of them 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.799 like she's a kid, she's sixteen years old. You know, 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.160 her shoes are on fire cause she's running so fat, 0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:40.040 Like I love that that was awesome, that was so great. 0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:41.920 She didn't do it in front of the other the 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.399 other runners. She didn't do it so that they would 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:47.600 be inhaling that extinct like whatever the fire extinguisher pushes out. 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:51.239 Why I just watched the clip off her doing it, 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:53.200 Like what are we trying to raise girls to be 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.520 like to? It's just like we're raising these women to 0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.759 be phenoms and to be powerful, including us, and then 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.759 the moment we acknowledge our greatness, it's like, no, not 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.560 that way, not that way. That's too much. That's too much. 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.319 It's a it's a fucking lose, lose. You got to 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.440 like back yourself. And I hope she doesn't. I hope 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:12.879 she doesn't let this get to her. I hope she 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.960 continues moving ahead because it's like this is like the 0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.359 this is the collateral damage that can come when you 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:24.319 are black and brilliant. Uh, in this in this time 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.480 that we're in And I just love her dad for 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:30.080 setting her up like that. Maybe they should let maybe 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:32.920 they should do it every race. I don't know. Plus 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.200 at safety, like it's nice to have an extra one. 0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:36.200 What if. 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:38.840 Like you never know? 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:41.320 All right? 0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:41.839 Uh? 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.480 I wonder you know I wonder if everyone who's like 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:49.200 criticizing Cocoa and you know, this young teenager from californ 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:50.560 what was her name again, I forget what her name 0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.279 is anyway, and like criticizing you know, Doc at the 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:55.960 met When dochi that viral clip of her yelling at 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.960 her team while she's like in a in a did 0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:02.319 y'all see that clip like in a wardrobe, like in 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:06.600 an umbrella, the coon yelling at and yelling at her stuff. 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.040 But anyway, like, I wonder if everyone criticizing black women 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.000 who are really successful at how we're reacting. I want 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.920 to see those tweets next to the tweets and the 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:18.440 comments they've left about poor a Maries n PR tiny 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.600 desk concert because where was the grace? 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.200 Because isn't me? 0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:28.600 But I also didn't think it was that bad. 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:42.440 Okay, oh okay, Alexa, I'm yeah, I just okay, here, 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.000 this is all I'm the This is no just because listen, 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.160 I'm very careful about giving criticism to someone who is doing. 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.200 Something I could never do. Amen, you're not about to 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:53.480 see yet a tiny desk concert. You know, I have 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:55.440 no singing voice. I am more of a dancer than 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.200 anything else. So let me just say that. What I 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:03.799 will say is, oh boy, find your words. Is that 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.279 I feel strongly that the if you're going to do 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.759 a song as high pitched as the ones that she 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:14.239 was doing, you have to be willing to adjust the arrangements. 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:18.319 On that note, I think her voice has changed over 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.440 the years very much, which is normal. I mean, look 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.160 at Beyonce. Beyonce's voice is completely changed from when she 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.600 was just starting out to now. It's a completely different voice. 0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:30.640 You can't tell me it's the same voice. And because 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.720 of that, I think that she and the backup dancers 0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:35.920 and her the backup dancer, excuse me, the backup singers, 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:37.960 and herself should have worked together a little bit more 0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:39.800 because it felt like the backup singers were really carrying 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.000 a lot of it and that was making it sound 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.080 very much like they were no longer in alignment where 0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.879 the song was going pitch wise, and she was going 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.400 way too fast. I felt like if they had gone lower, 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:51.920 a lower tone, like a lower pitch, and the song 0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:54.279 was slower, it would have been perfect for where she's 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:56.839 at now in her career. She was trying to take 0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.320 it back, do like a throwback vibe and it didn't. 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:01.839 I was like, oh boy, I'm gonna pause it right 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:05.680 here and I continue want I've. 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.239 Never cared for the song nor her voice in the 0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:12.600 song at the time, her voices her voices like I 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.200 don't love her voice in the original song. I was 0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:18.520 shocked she tried to go that high. Come now, it's 0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:19.719 hard to sing that song in the car. 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:22.480 I guess that's why. 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:25.799 I also was I'm like, this is is this like 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.200 not almost the norm for her? Sometimes? 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.880 Yeah, I'm sure when she sang live it wasn't amazing before. 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:36.480 I mean like, that's why I was like, who's it not? Well, 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.160 we sort of expect, but I mean here, I still 0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:42.960 don't think all the backlash and like the lack of 0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:47.279 grace was warranted. I could see how people are like, no, 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.680 it was actually that bad. But the grace that they 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:51.279 didn't give the. 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:55.160 Woman, I they didn't need to type all those comments out. 0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:57.200 You got work to do work. 0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.880 There are okay, there are artists where I'm like, I'm 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:05.080 not like, we're you're not there for the vocal strength. 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.680 Like I don't know if someone's like ooh, Jasmine Sullivan, 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:11.400 I'm like, oh, we're gonna get sang down. Same with Fantasia. 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:15.000 It's like, remove the wig, throw it at her. Amory 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.040 is not someone I think, but it's like they're are bops. 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:21.200 It's a jam. It's a vibe. Also shout out to 0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:24.840 Backyard Band. I'm like, yes, can't wait to beat my 0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:29.920 feet to this, et cetera. But I think I don't know, 0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.200 And like I really like Amor. I thought you did 0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:33.920 a great job at the BET Awards with that one. 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:35.319 I six a park thing. 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.839 It was just, oh, that was fun. 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:41.680 I think I don't know. It's just like, let's manage 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:46.040 our expectations. That being said. And I may regret this 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:47.920 because it comes for us all, but it's a thing 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:54.400 of like gotta get these jokes off. You gotta sometimes 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.200 sometimes you just gotta get the jokes off. 0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.839 My big two though, is I think that she had 0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:01.799 to it. I don't think you really told her what 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.319 the vibe of Tiny Dusk was, do you know, sayd 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:05.920 what I mean like, if you a lot of people 0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:09.320 that come to Tiny Dusk, they alter the like the 0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:11.960 cover of the the way if they're doing a song 0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:15.680 to fit the Tiny Dusk format, like the vibe for it, right, 0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.920 Like it's usually so like if you ever saw Alicia 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:22.319 Kueses or if you saw durand Duranda, this is his name, 0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.720 Duran Bernard. Yeah, he was dressed up as the proud 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:29.799 family uncle, you know, like when he did his but 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.400 this sound the way that he was doing it, like 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.600 he completely If you listen to their original song versus 0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:37.480 the way it was born on Tiny Dusk, it's so 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.640 much more. For like, in the house, we really were 0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.040 sitting around on the kitchen counter talk. We're playing this 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:45.680 song out. You know, it's a really at home vibe. 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:48.160 I think she took on very much. We're on stage, 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:50.680 but it's just a small stage, and it's like, no, 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:52.880 this is not that vibe. I think that's really just 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:54.479 what it was. I'm not taking away from our talent. 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:56.440 I just think it was a matter of the environment 0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:58.320 we were in. Performing in this way. 0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:01.200 Looks hella awkward to perform there. If you're like someone 0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:05.000 who has anxiety about clutter, that shit is clutter. It 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.200 shows nothing but nick Knacks. It looks like my aunt 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:10.439 Brenda's living room. They're like, it is just like nick 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:12.799 Knacks and Chochke's all over the wall. And then it's 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:14.200 like perform be an artist. 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:16.800 Yeah, is it a like desk? 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.320 Like Okay, I used to wear and I have been 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:23.400 to several I can give the give the background. 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:25.840 So it is a desk. 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:27.760 But even though it's called a tiny desk, it's a 0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.600 desk that's much bigger than all the other desks that 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:35.680 everyone has. It's like a couple desks put together. Is 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.880 Bob Boylan still at the time it was Bob Boylen's desk? 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:42.080 Did he he might have announced retirement? Oh gosh, I 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:43.560 hope someone important. 0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.680 Yeah, he's like in pr like music correspond So it 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.760 was like his desk, but I don't I never saw 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.560 him actually, Like at the desk, it's mostly the performance space, 0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.400 but like when it's time for the tiny desk, like 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.800 everyone is like crowding around. 0:57:57.920 --> 0:57:59.320 Some people get there early. 0:57:59.520 --> 0:57:59.840 I was. 0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.280 I went to the Gucci Man Tiny Desk when I 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:06.280 worked there time of my life, and like I could 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.200 always tell when the like they send an email out 0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.520 where they're like here's what's coming, but I could always 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.640 It's funny seeing the different crowds, like with the Gucci 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:15.840 Man Tiny Desk, Like it felt like every black person 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:18.280 in that building was like ooh, let me like get 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.320 my friends were going and then one time it was, 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:26.720 oh my gosh, it was I am forgetting this. It 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:31.120 was like it was some white man singer songwriter. And 0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:31.840 I saw like. 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.000 Several of my colleagues like running over and they're like, oh. 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:36.960 My gosh, it's happening. And I was like, I don't 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:40.320 know who this is. The Blue Man Group has been there, 0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:44.520 saw them. It's just so it's like a little bit 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:46.560 of everything, A little bit of everything, it really is. 0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:51.160 She said, why tell Why? 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:54.240 Well, that sounds tell of fun. I wish I have 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:58.520 perks like that. Hey, ba fam, we gonna take a 0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.360 quick break, pay some bill and we'll be right back. 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:03.920 All right, ba fam, We're back. All right, y'all. We 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.320 have to talk about the economy a little bit, mart maw. 0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:10.720 It's called brown ambition. Okay, Now, Miss JQ and your 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:14.080 latest episode of Boxes Explaining to Me podcasts, y'all talked 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:18.120 about recession indicators, and I'm a little confused. I want 0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:20.720 to I want to hear your take. First of all, 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.040 is it not clear that a recession is here? I 0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:27.960 don't like we are struggling. This is like a bunch 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.440 of different ways that we are just struggling. In these streets. 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.720 I think that's like where the disconnect lies, because it's 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.560 the one thing where it's like, no, y'all, I went 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:38.840 to like I went to Trader Joe's, and you know, 0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:41.560 I'm like, all right, I'm gonna get like three days 0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:43.720 worth of stuff before I go on vacation, and it's 0:59:43.760 --> 0:59:47.560 like one hundred dollars. Like there is that situation. But 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:51.160 when it comes to economists, they're like, no, there are 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:55.800 official boxes to be checked in order to say we 0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:57.800 have a recession. So in order it for it to 0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:00.520 be like an official recession where they're talking about it 1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:04.800 on the news, et cetera, the economy has to contract 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:08.200 for like two quarters straight. We're in one quarter of contraction. 1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:11.840 If in this next quarter, then like it's official. 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:15.280 We're end in July, right, did not know September? No GM, 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:16.560 what now one. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:21.000 Q two ends in July, thank you Engen. 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.959 Yeah, so that's gonna be. That's gonna be the tail. 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:29.280 That being said, the vibes are bad. It's hard if 1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:31.600 people are out here struggling, like, and I think that's 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:34.680 where the disconnect is. And I think both politicians and 1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:38.680 media like we have to be like okay, yeah, like yeah, 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:42.919 technically no, technically the economy is good, but like one, 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:44.800 who is it good for? The people at the top 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:46.400 are the ones who are eating the ones are the 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:50.400 bottom not getting fed as much. And also like realizing 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:55.560 like no, like technically the economy may be healthy, but 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:58.880 on a personal finance situation, things are not healthy. And 1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:02.360 I wish that like we all took that more seriously 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:05.640 and that that's kind of like the thing we looked 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:09.960 at to judge the health of like what agree. 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:13.240 And also I think like as a as like media 1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:16.360 brands and we're all within media, we have a service, 1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:18.640 like it doesn't even at this point, it doesn't even. 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:21.560 Matter like if it is or if it's not or blah. 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:25.640 Blah blah, Like we have a you know, service to 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:29.200 our community, especially like what blavity we service like black 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:34.040 millennials gen zs. So our audience is like this is 1:01:34.080 --> 1:01:36.440 how you prepare, Like this is what you need to 1:01:36.480 --> 1:01:39.680 do right more on the personal level versus just like 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:42.560 waiting for these boxes to be checked because I care 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:45.680 see you, the box will be checked after we've already 1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:46.160 been in it. 1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:48.520 So like at this point, you. 1:01:48.640 --> 1:01:51.360 Just it is what it is, right, we have to 1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:53.920 have more discussion on like the personal level and like 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:59.200 how people are impacted versus has a box been checked yet? 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:00.640 Okay, now let me figure it out. 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.840 What were some of the recession indicators that y'all covered JQ. 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:05.840 They some of them were kind of funky. 1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:11.520 Yeah, so there's the underwear one where Alan Greenspan was like, honestly, 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:15.240 men buy less underwear. That may be it because it's 1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:17.160 one of those things that people see the least of. 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:20.680 So like, my husband just bought new boxers though. 1:02:21.440 --> 1:02:23.600 Okay, so maybe y'all are doing. 1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:26.640 I told him the plumber's crack had to go. I said, 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:31.200 forget the recession. The plumber crack got to get whole 1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:33.800 neighborhood be seeing your crack. It's not okay while you're 1:02:33.800 --> 1:02:34.760 watching the car. 1:02:39.040 --> 1:02:39.680 Is too much. 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:43.240 It's don't very Evie, take notes. This is how you 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:49.400 talk about your husband just eight years down the line. Okay, 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:50.520 we're buying less undies. 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:51.240 What else? Yeah. 1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:53.800 One person called in. He was like, I work out 1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:56.200 a bar. People are buying more drinks and cash. 1:02:56.280 --> 1:02:56.880 Is that a thing? 1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:59.160 And you know it could be it could be people 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:01.400 being like I don't want credit card fees, or you know, 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:04.040 maybe some people just have a little more cash now, 1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:07.080 Like that's one the one we really get gen Z thing. 1:03:07.960 --> 1:03:08.280 You will. 1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:11.000 Yeah, But there's also atm in a minute. 1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:13.440 There's also like a there's a whole thing gen Z 1:03:13.800 --> 1:03:17.560 interacts at bars differently than like older generations do. Like 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:20.280 there was this whole like piece in the New York 1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:23.160 Times about how like gen Z doesn't keep tabs open. 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:25.160 They close out the tab each time and then keep 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:26.760 going back to the bar each time. 1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:28.040 Oh. 1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:29.960 Interesting, in my. 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:32.400 Younger days, that would have saved me a lot of 1:03:32.480 --> 1:03:33.160 debit cards. 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:35.600 You just leave it behind. 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:42.280 I'm like, yeah, I went to London without a wallet, 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:45.760 not a single credit card, not a license in my possession. 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:48.640 I want my passport and nothing else. And all my 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:50.960 friends were like, what are you gonna do? 1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:51.720 Nothing? 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:53.760 Everywhere you went it was like top. 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:57.600 Here, tab here exactly. 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:59.600 I think it's ghetto that we still have to use 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:02.680 a physical passport, like come on now, and I don't 1:04:02.720 --> 1:04:05.040 even take it out at the airport. It's like come use, 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:07.080 I have Global entry and it's just like come stand 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:08.640 in front of the screen. We're gonna take your picture, 1:04:09.160 --> 1:04:12.600 and like, come on, is it is the paper company? 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:14.360 Is it in bed with like the government, Like, what's 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:17.720 happening because we gotta getrid of these passports? Okay, sorry JQ. 1:04:17.840 --> 1:04:18.240 What else? 1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:21.840 Oh, press on nails could be people are getting you know, 1:04:21.960 --> 1:04:26.280 fewer manicures they're doing at home stuff, So increase and 1:04:26.320 --> 1:04:29.720 press on nail. Yeah, increase and press on nails. Returning 1:04:29.720 --> 1:04:31.760 to your natural hair color. People may not want to 1:04:31.800 --> 1:04:36.040 go to the salon. Someone was like statement necklaces that 1:04:36.120 --> 1:04:38.880 one less, so like sorry, like, it's just well. 1:04:38.760 --> 1:04:42.400 It's not conn So no, I thought we were done 1:04:42.400 --> 1:04:42.760 with those. 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:45.360 No, and a peplum. Oh if peplum comes back, I 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:47.360 may be like, where are we going from? 1:04:47.360 --> 1:04:48.960 It's time to go to the clere. But peplum comes 1:04:48.960 --> 1:04:51.240 back with a statement. Next we'kin a pizto platform. 1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:55.520 Back to the like office wear at the club. We 1:04:55.640 --> 1:04:58.160 really went from day to night like constantly. 1:04:58.320 --> 1:05:00.040 I truly did like. 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:02.000 And didn't change me out. 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:05.160 No, it would be me a blazer and owl necklace 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:09.840 and like my laptop in the club, living my best life. 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:14.160 Apparently people are tipping less at the strip club, which 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:14.919 to me is just bad. 1:05:14.960 --> 1:05:17.200 If you can't, If you can't, it's got to be 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:23.680 a strip club. Study listen, they're the first to see. 1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:28.120 Also, like in a decrease in eating out delivery, that's 1:05:28.160 --> 1:05:28.480 been me. 1:05:29.920 --> 1:05:32.360 Yeah, that's me trying to cook at home. 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:36.439 Unfortunately it does actually save you money, guys, oh very much. 1:05:36.440 --> 1:05:36.520 So. 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:41.320 Also I got I just signed up for a food delivery, 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:43.479 which had I had become like, I feel like food 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:45.720 delivery has got to be so overdone. There's a million 1:05:45.720 --> 1:05:49.280 of them. But one of my friends was raving about 1:05:49.640 --> 1:05:53.240 how she uses this new subscription meal service where it's 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:55.160 like chef delivered meals. I just signed up and it 1:05:55.200 --> 1:06:00.240 was a hundred bucks for six meals for the So 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:02.920 that's a meal every night during the week. And apps 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:06.000 that would be two door dash orders with all them 1:06:06.000 --> 1:06:08.080 fees and stuff from you and my husband. 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:11.520 Oh that's like, yeah, have. 1:06:11.560 --> 1:06:13.800 Y'all done anything in your life to save money recently, 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:18.280 like just to whether it's like using less credit, you know. 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:20.000 Yeah, I used to. 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:22.320 I used to get my hair done a lot more 1:06:22.680 --> 1:06:25.320 and now I do it a lot more myself, or 1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:28.880 just you know, book appointments with my sister to do 1:06:28.960 --> 1:06:31.439 my braiding or things like they look. 1:06:31.440 --> 1:06:34.120 Very cute, these like little side birds, you. 1:06:34.080 --> 1:06:36.960 Know, and I could I could definitely see like a 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:40.680 decrease in the beauty you know up keep department and 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:43.640 just di y that's my thingmm. 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:46.520 Hmm, yeah, there's Yeah, there's maintenance where I'd be like 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:48.800 ooh every two weeks and now I'm more like, all right, 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:54.040 once a month that will be the thing. Also, I'm like, 1:06:54.160 --> 1:06:57.640 all right, we gotta rain these ride shares in so 1:06:57.720 --> 1:07:02.360 it's like planning ahead, gotta get on that train, gotta 1:07:02.400 --> 1:07:05.600 get on that bus, like plan ahead, Like I think 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:08.400 that's the biggest thing where I'm like, all right, we 1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:11.560 do not have to uber everywhere, Like, get get your 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:13.080 butt on that bus. You live in a city with 1:07:13.120 --> 1:07:15.360 good public transportation, take advantage of it. 1:07:17.040 --> 1:07:20.640 It's honestly, I'm going back to my college days. I 1:07:20.640 --> 1:07:22.360 feel like I have a water bottle with me. Everywhere 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:24.200 I go, I'll have to buy water of the kind 1:07:24.200 --> 1:07:24.800 of stuff I like. 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:28.960 Someone that's pretty, isn't it pretty Pride? 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:33.640 It's a rainbow bottle. Anyway, I get my nails done 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:35.120 by in a way of like I'll go and be 1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:37.000 like get me, do what you do for the men 1:07:37.400 --> 1:07:40.120 for me, Just clean up the cuticle, maybe it look nice. 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:42.360 And then I go to CBS or wherever. Actually I 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:45.480 get it on Amazon sometimes or through Etsy. I'll just 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:48.240 get some paistons and do it like that. I had 1:07:48.240 --> 1:07:50.200 found a really great adhiece of glue, so I've been 1:07:50.240 --> 1:07:52.920 loving that. Learning to do my hair also Evey one 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:56.120 hundred percent. I got a trip next week and I'm 1:07:56.160 --> 1:07:58.640 literally like, how am I gonna do my hair? I 1:07:58.680 --> 1:08:01.160 don't want to spend three hundred dollars on these French 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:02.520 curl layered braids. 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:05.160 See I wonder I want to we who's doing this 1:08:05.240 --> 1:08:08.520 study on African braiding salons this summer, because if the 1:08:08.560 --> 1:08:11.680 girls are not getting their hair braided down, that to me. 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:17.040 Oh if like if braids go I'm like, oh we 1:08:17.080 --> 1:08:20.519 are in to me, we are because braidss like okay, it. 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:23.719 Was boho braids last summer, but it lasts a little longer. 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:27.200 Like it's hot, I don't have to but if braiding 1:08:27.240 --> 1:08:30.120 goes by the wayside, it's like, oh honey, we might 1:08:30.160 --> 1:08:30.759 be in trouble. 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:31.679 Something is happening. 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:34.439 Let me let me see the uptick and head scarves 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:35.000 be sold. 1:08:36.520 --> 1:08:39.759 That's what I It's too hot for all that. Yeah, 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:41.439 it's not even a money thing for me. I can't 1:08:41.479 --> 1:08:43.360 sit down for seven hours while someone but I just 1:08:43.360 --> 1:08:45.160 can't ask too much is too much for me. I'm 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:47.240 never going to be a braid girly. But you know 1:08:47.280 --> 1:08:49.479 what I also feel like during the last recession, like 1:08:49.720 --> 1:08:52.320 well this was during my January, like our early recession 1:08:52.360 --> 1:08:56.240 two thousand and eight, seven, eight, nine ten, one of 1:08:56.280 --> 1:08:59.240 the one of the things that upticked were like basic 1:08:59.280 --> 1:09:02.080 manicures because because that was like people's treat so women 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:04.840 were like buying a lipstick, buying a little man. Getting 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:08.479 a little manicure as like a small creature comfort when 1:09:08.520 --> 1:09:11.720 everything else felt like out of reach. I hope that 1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:13.920 we can find these like moments of self care and joy. 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:15.400 Why has it always got to be the nails and 1:09:15.439 --> 1:09:17.120 the hair that takes it? Like, why can't we get 1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:19.920 rid of something else? Like I don't have these kids. 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:23.960 Kids are very expensive. It would be much more, it 1:09:24.280 --> 1:09:27.160 be much more beneficial to my budget if I didn't 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:29.400 have to pay twenty five one hundred dollars a month 1:09:29.439 --> 1:09:32.040 for daycare. That would be nice. Can we get some 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:36.000 universal childcare? Like there's all this pressure on us to 1:09:36.120 --> 1:09:38.120 like budget and stuff, but at a certain point in 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:40.719 this economy, it just feels like there's nothing left else 1:09:40.760 --> 1:09:44.160 to cut. I don't cut everything to some of the streamers, 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:48.000 you know, you try to like cut your eating out, 1:09:48.040 --> 1:09:49.760 cut your rise shares and things like that. But when 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:54.840 the cost of housing is so crazy, I just got 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:57.839 my I just got my house, my new tax assessment. 1:09:57.840 --> 1:10:02.000 Do y'all own homes men street, it's trash? 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:04.840 Well, oh not, Evie JQ. You know this because okay, one, 1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:07.280 you're show to talk about housing. But as a homeowner, 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:10.160 every year my town decides what my house is valued, 1:10:10.200 --> 1:10:12.679 and a free assesses it so they can get more 1:10:12.720 --> 1:10:14.960 taxes out of us. Tell me why I have not 1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:16.680 done a single thing to this house. If anything, the 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:20.719 house has become worse since last year. Things are falling apart, 1:10:20.800 --> 1:10:23.400 and it's like your home value has increased sixty two 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:27.519 thousand dollars. Congrats, we're going to be taken twenty And 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:30.200 I already paid twenty thousand dollars a year in property taxes. 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:33.240 And it's the same for renters like across the street. 1:10:33.560 --> 1:10:36.360 And I know why across the street, my neighbor she 1:10:36.479 --> 1:10:40.720 rents her house. They were like pandemic Brooklyn refugees, and 1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:43.920 their landlord probably got the same letter I did. Where 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:46.679 her house, her home value increased, and probably her taxes 1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:49.519 increase because their rent is going up five hundred dollars 1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:52.519 and they're like, we don't want to pay that, but 1:10:52.880 --> 1:10:55.000 and I don't want to pay my increased property taxes 1:10:55.120 --> 1:11:00.200 is wild. So it's a bit like that. Yeah, I guess, yeah, 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:03.919 I'm just it's really frustrating. It can be really frustrating, 1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:06.479 especially I mean, Alexa, we're covering personal finance and JQ 1:11:06.800 --> 1:11:10.360 to a certain extent, but like when the advice for 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:13.680 consumers on how they can make ends meet is like 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:18.599 they've trimmed everything. It's like, we need something. We need 1:11:18.640 --> 1:11:22.479 more houses built, like we need more economic relief social 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:25.960 safety nets, which unfortunately, going back to the big, bad, 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:29.800 bogus bullshit bill that's going through Congress right now, could 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:33.160 be reducing those social safety nets at a time when 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:35.559 we're all out here struggling so much. 1:11:36.920 --> 1:11:39.719 It makes no sense. It's quite sad. 1:11:40.160 --> 1:11:43.320 It's so remarkably offensive to me because it's such a 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:46.439 lack of under of wanting to understand that it's not 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:50.200 that people are lazy. Okay, we're really doing everything we 1:11:50.400 --> 1:11:53.640 can to make ends meat, to get to the end 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:55.519 of the year to get, you know, just to be 1:11:55.640 --> 1:11:58.439 on the table, and you're here telling me, oh, you know, 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:01.080 if you work a little harder, you know, just just 1:12:01.240 --> 1:12:04.520 go to school. Oh just take on all the Yeah, 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:09.200 like they make it sound so they're they're not considering 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:12.400 everything that's already being done, and how things that are 1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:15.919 the worst parts are the systemic issues, the systemic elements 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:19.240 of this. So they're propagating, that's the most It's it's 1:12:19.280 --> 1:12:22.799 the offensiveness of it for me that, Yeah, that hurts 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:23.240 so much. 1:12:23.960 --> 1:12:26.000 Meanwhile, AI is going to come for all of our jobs, 1:12:26.520 --> 1:12:30.400 all heard. It is a little bit personal to me 1:12:30.479 --> 1:12:32.960 because Business Insider is how I got my start in 1:12:32.960 --> 1:12:35.840 personal finance reporting over a decade ago. But they just 1:12:35.880 --> 1:12:39.160 announced twenty one percent layoffs of their staff, which is 1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:42.559 a lot of dozens of workers. But what really has 1:12:42.600 --> 1:12:45.400 pissed everybody off and was surprising to me is how 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:47.360 they owned They owned up to the fact that it 1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:50.080 was AI that was driving them to make these cuts. 1:12:50.120 --> 1:12:54.000 They specifically cut their e commerce team, which is like, 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:56.240 which is pretty much like what I was doing when 1:12:56.240 --> 1:12:58.360 I was in marketing. I was doing content marketing. You'd 1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:01.280 create content that was tied to products, that you would 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:05.000 get affiliate revenue from, like the same stuff Wirecutter does 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:07.960 and nerd wallet stuff like that. So they're cutting that 1:13:08.040 --> 1:13:11.360 because they have realized that, oh, we can train an 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:14.439 AI model to create this kind of content, so let's 1:13:14.439 --> 1:13:18.360 get rid of the humans. And it's so it's just 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:20.439 it really hit me because I'm like, oh, that would 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:24.200 be my story probably if I had stayed, you know, 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:26.880 in in that kind of media space that I was in. 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:32.160 And it's a real scary sign of what can be 1:13:32.320 --> 1:13:34.719 what's to come. And I know we're all in media 1:13:34.720 --> 1:13:37.320 in some way, shape or form. How do y'all feel 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:37.760 about it? 1:13:38.520 --> 1:13:41.479 Yeah, it's it's honestly, it's frightening. 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:46.760 You know, I'm not the biggest like AI user, but 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:48.559 I do know people who do use it, and there 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:50.720 are some tools where I'm like, okay, that makes sense. Like, 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:53.360 you know, if you're doing a big investigative piece and 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:55.720 you're trying to comb through a data set, it is 1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:58.639 probably very helpful to be like, all right, this can 1:13:58.640 --> 1:14:01.120 pull out these metrics that I'm looking for, save me 1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:03.040 a little bit of time before I look over them. 1:14:03.120 --> 1:14:07.000 But when it comes to writing, when it comes to 1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:11.080 like a podcast, like there's a certain amount of even 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:13.920 if it's just a straight news story, there is like 1:14:14.120 --> 1:14:18.160 soul in that human element, and I think we shouldn't 1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:18.800 discount that. 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:20.679 And if it goes by the wayside at. 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:24.240 A lot of organizations, I think people do not realize 1:14:24.320 --> 1:14:26.080 how much they are going to miss it. 1:14:27.720 --> 1:14:31.920 Agreed, Agreed. There have to be ethical limits, especially within 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:37.200 certain disciplines like journalism. I just don't believe that AI 1:14:37.400 --> 1:14:40.960 can take on the kind of as you were saying, JQ, 1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:44.080 the human element of these kind of pieces. Now I 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:46.759 work in media, yes, but I work on the operation side, 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:50.439 right so I'm building dashboards, I'm building I had to 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:53.040 build a couple opps to make stuff happen for work, 1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:56.160 and I need a honestly without a not that I 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:58.400 need it, but it, when I tell you, it makes 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:01.240 a task that would have taken the full month or 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:04.160 two months, and this turned it into two weeks. And 1:15:04.280 --> 1:15:06.120 like where I can tweak it and make it right 1:15:06.200 --> 1:15:08.960 for our business, where my human element then goes in 1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:12.679 and arranges it perfect. That's great for the operation side 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:14.320 of things, for the part that deals with numbers, for 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:16.280 the part that deals with you know, that kind of 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:18.040 chug and plug of I just need to build this 1:15:18.160 --> 1:15:22.080 with a tool, the structure versus the meat of it, 1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:24.640 which is what should be supplied by the humans. If 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:27.280 we have the skeletal structure by an AI situation, I 1:15:27.280 --> 1:15:29.120 don't see I personally don't see as much of an 1:15:29.120 --> 1:15:30.840 issue with it, But I do see the issue when 1:15:30.840 --> 1:15:34.519 it comes into the play of you know, journalism, writing 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:37.479 the meat of what makes it what it like different 1:15:37.479 --> 1:15:39.920 from something else, because what's to say, you know, Business 1:15:39.920 --> 1:15:43.439 Insider versus the Financial Times versus whoever else? Oh yeah, 1:15:43.479 --> 1:15:45.680 probably using AI to create all these articles. Like I 1:15:45.800 --> 1:15:49.160 just I know you can to a certain element, curate 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.439 it so that it is aligned with the voice of 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:54.320 your brand. But I have to believe that there are 1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:58.439 limits to that that only a human can surpass. I'm 1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:00.360 very fascinated by all of this, but I said, I 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:02.400 very much believe there should be ethical meditations. 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:07.080 I I'm a proponent of it from like a. 1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:13.840 Utilizing this tool right like because because let's media has 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:17.519 been through these stages like every so often we go 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:22.639 through these like you know, huge shifts in media, right 1:16:22.720 --> 1:16:26.720 and like how we bring information to to our audience. 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:29.320 So this is just another one of them. I do 1:16:29.400 --> 1:16:32.479 think it's a it's a tool for us to learn 1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:37.439 and utilize, but it is not a tool necessarily. Well, 1:16:37.920 --> 1:16:41.400 I haven't seen this yet where it can replace a 1:16:41.560 --> 1:16:46.559 human voice. Right, even if you you know, you get something, 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:51.000 it's like there's a lot of it is false, completely. 1:16:50.479 --> 1:16:53.120 False, and it's like made up. 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:53.599 Right. 1:16:53.760 --> 1:16:59.080 So, like you said, Alexa, it creates a It's great 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:03.640 at creating a template or some kind of like structure, 1:17:04.120 --> 1:17:08.360 but as far as like creating just like creating in general, 1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:10.559 like an end to end, it's not there yet. But 1:17:10.760 --> 1:17:17.960 I'm enjoying using this tool for quick assessments, creating specific 1:17:18.120 --> 1:17:23.080 like formats, a lot of like data analysis too. That's 1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:26.720 really helpful. So I'm enjoying that aspect of it. But 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:29.880 from we have a lot a long ways to go 1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:34.720 in terms of like ethical like rules and guardrails when 1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:36.760 it comes to these. 1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:39.439 I think the challenge also comes by way of human 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:45.040 abuse of AI, like as in as in substituting AI 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:48.320 for human discernments, I mean human discernment like stuff stuting 1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:51.840 human discernment for AI, excuse me, and not like I 1:17:51.880 --> 1:17:54.720 was reading this article recently at this this author he 1:17:54.880 --> 1:17:56.960 was sharing with one of his colleagues about how much 1:17:56.960 --> 1:18:01.479 he loved having chat GBT get him editing feedback on 1:18:01.560 --> 1:18:03.880 his work because he was like creating a new manuscript 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:06.080 and he just wanted some quick verses having to hire 1:18:06.120 --> 1:18:07.519 an editor and do the whole thing. He's like, let 1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:08.960 me try and see if I can, you know, let 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:10.400 me just see what he kept up to PT does 1:18:10.439 --> 1:18:12.439 And he loved what it turned out for him, and 1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:15.760 so he show his friend and his friend was reviewing 1:18:15.920 --> 1:18:17.680 what it was saying to him, and really it was 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:19.519 just all a bunch of feedback that was playing up 1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:22.800 his ego and very much like, oh, yeah, we see 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:25.240 what you did here. But if you just make this 1:18:25.400 --> 1:18:28.960 minor correcting, and she's like, this entire page needs to go. 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:31.160 This entire painic needs to be completely re edited and 1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:33.920 rewriting and redone and whatnot. And I think that's something 1:18:33.960 --> 1:18:39.160 to be said about, like are you able to tell 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:44.960 when when your ego's being stroked, you know, and being 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:47.040 able to say, hey, no, actually I want you to 1:18:47.120 --> 1:18:49.200 come at me on this like I want you to. 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:51.920 But AI has been created in a way of like, no, 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:54.000 you are the support to the humans. You make the 1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:56.800 humans feel and hear exactly what they want to feel 1:18:56.800 --> 1:18:58.360 in here. Just do it in a way that is 1:18:58.439 --> 1:19:01.880 constructive and that is supportive, passionate, as compassionate as you 1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:04.320 know a tech tool can be. And I mean you're 1:19:04.320 --> 1:19:07.320 seeing people use chat gipt for for therapy, all right, 1:19:07.360 --> 1:19:10.120 Like these are the kind of limitations I'm talking about. 1:19:10.680 --> 1:19:12.880 Yeah, my cousin told me she was using chat to 1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:13.799 learn how to break. 1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:16.920 Up with the guy. Uh. Girl, go to the group chat, 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:18.640 Go to the group chat, go to the. 1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:21.160 That's the thing, gen Z. She's I'm like, ask your friends. 1:19:21.160 --> 1:19:22.600 She's like, I don't know. They don't really get it. 1:19:22.720 --> 1:19:25.400 I'm like, okay, Like to. 1:19:25.400 --> 1:19:27.960 Be human is to be in conflict, and you can't 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:30.680 really I think we do ourselves a disservice when we 1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:33.559 smooth off those edges. Like a running joke that I 1:19:33.600 --> 1:19:37.000 have told every person who edits me and this has 1:19:37.439 --> 1:19:39.360 even been since, Like I even felt this way as 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:42.320 a kid because my parents would edit my essays for 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:46.080 like school in high school, and part of having an 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:49.040 editor like you're just gonna feel a sense of defensiveness. 1:19:49.080 --> 1:19:52.280 Like there's always like they'll strike something out or add something, 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:53.960 and so you get this feeling of like so you 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:54.559 think I'm dumb. 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.080 You think I'm dumb, and you hate me. You hate 1:19:56.080 --> 1:19:56.439 me and you. 1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:59.160 Think I'm dumb, and you never like act on it. 1:19:59.439 --> 1:20:01.560 As time go by, you start to feel it a 1:20:01.560 --> 1:20:03.680 little less, but there always is that thing of like, 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:05.760 you think I'm stupid and you hate me, and that's 1:20:05.800 --> 1:20:07.800 why you took that sentence out, isn't it. And it's 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:12.080 like no, no, they're they're doing the right thing, and 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:13.000 it's just you have to learn. 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:15.440 That's my love language. I'm a masochist. 1:20:15.479 --> 1:20:18.360 I'm like, if you don't give me critical feedback like 1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:21.160 and I mean critical, like this sucks? Why this? 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:21.800 Then? 1:20:21.840 --> 1:20:23.960 Are you even do you even like me enough to 1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:24.960 give me criticism? 1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:25.160 Like? 1:20:25.200 --> 1:20:29.879 That's my relationship to being edited. Although I will say, Alexa, 1:20:29.960 --> 1:20:31.720 some of us do need our ego stroke. When we 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:33.680 were in writer's block and I did. I'm working on 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:36.720 my book and there was a point when I uploaded 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:40.559 like three chapters into chat GPT or perplexity. I forget 1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:42.840 which one, and I was like, tell me how you 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:45.960 like these chapters? And I really needed them to like 1:20:46.040 --> 1:20:50.080 them and loved it. It was so common I think 1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:51.559 I even posted about it. I was like Wow, I 1:20:51.600 --> 1:20:54.400 really need this pick me up. But is it real? 1:20:54.640 --> 1:20:56.760 Hell no, but it's nice. 1:20:56.800 --> 1:20:59.599 Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. The thing with us too. 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:02.840 And uploading your work. Another thing I've been actually reading 1:21:02.840 --> 1:21:04.960 about is how you have to and it's just a 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:06.599 note to human because I don't want not to happen 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:08.320 in with your work at all. But like in a 1:21:08.400 --> 1:21:12.280 negative sense of unchat REPT, there's a toggle that's often 1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:15.000 like just automate automatically on. You have to turn it off, 1:21:15.160 --> 1:21:16.840 but it's like, would you like to help other chat 1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:21.680 gpt upload like the content that you put in and 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:24.360 like it can use whatever you upload to like be 1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:26.720 like kind of take it as its own and take 1:21:26.720 --> 1:21:28.839 ownership of that. So I would just be very careful 1:21:28.880 --> 1:21:31.880 of like uploading full chafters or any anything like that. 1:21:31.920 --> 1:21:35.280 But when I just want to say that also very random, 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:38.439 well not random, it's very connected to this, but slightly adjacent. 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:40.240 Have you ell ever heard of solar punk? 1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:42.240 No? 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:45.080 No, okay, So, like solar punk dies into like AI 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:47.400 in tech and like the so so many people are 1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:49.280 when they are talking about AI or they're talking about 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.920 tech about there's taking over. It's gonna take over absolutely 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:54.560 everything it's gonna take over humans. Humans are gonna be 1:21:54.600 --> 1:21:57.360 a thing anymore, blood or whatever whatever. Solar Punk takes 1:21:57.360 --> 1:22:01.360 it as AI and humans living together in harmony and 1:22:01.400 --> 1:22:05.400 finding different limitations for AI so it doesn't infringe upon 1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:09.920 human life and instead supports it. So think of like agriculture, right, 1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:13.840 think of like solar panels, even like types of tech 1:22:13.920 --> 1:22:18.360 in that regard supporting human goals. So that's where I'm 1:22:18.400 --> 1:22:20.639 most interested. The reason I bring that up this because 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:23.439 when I'm thinking about ethical limitations or I'm thinking about 1:22:23.479 --> 1:22:26.320 where AI is going, that is what I'm most interested 1:22:26.400 --> 1:22:29.719 in learning about. How might we support our incoming students. 1:22:29.720 --> 1:22:31.559 I mean, Morgan Debond just posted about this on our 1:22:31.600 --> 1:22:35.920 Instagram story about all of the new kids who are 1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:37.880 applying to work at Blavity, Like none of them are 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:40.519 like prepared. They don't have anything in their skill set 1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:42.479 that is like, yes, of course they're entry levels to 1:22:42.479 --> 1:22:45.040 help prepared to expect them to be. But compared to 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:46.640 where we are right now in the world and what 1:22:46.720 --> 1:22:48.679 companies need, like you have to have a basic level 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.400 understanding of how AI is operating so that you can 1:22:51.479 --> 1:22:55.280 be an actual addition to this company versus you know, 1:22:55.400 --> 1:22:58.600 just another another body. So I'm curious to know, like 1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:02.800 how can we support kids learning better prompts? Learning, how 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:06.960 to apply discernment with certain prompts? Learning, how to you 1:23:06.960 --> 1:23:10.160 know which type of AI is better for a particular tool, 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:12.800 Like that is where I'm most interested in learning, Like 1:23:12.840 --> 1:23:15.120 how might there be a symbiotic relationship here because you 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:18.000 cannot say AI is just stalk, We shouldn't have any 1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:20.200 It's here and it's here to stay, Like that's I 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:22.320 cannot I talk about my parents this with my parents 1:23:22.400 --> 1:23:25.080 all the time. They are boomers. They're like, no, no, 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:27.360 I refuse. I'm like, you're going to be lost in 1:23:27.400 --> 1:23:30.320 the sauce, mommy if you don't get into this now, 1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:32.360 Like you have to learn some of this now so 1:23:32.400 --> 1:23:35.320 that you're not left behind. And I think that there's 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:37.640 this is the time where we're able to apply that 1:23:37.760 --> 1:23:43.240 understanding of here's how we can have more a more 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:46.680 positive relationship with it than one that is antagonistic in 1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:48.720 the way that for example, what we're talking about here 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:52.080 of the business insider layoffs, Like I just there's another 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:54.200 answer here, and it just takes a lot of creativity 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:57.000 of thought and how to tackle this complex. 1:23:56.600 --> 1:24:00.640 Issue Amen's sister friend. I will just note that my 1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:03.880 brother's on the board of the Responsible AI Institute, So 1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.320 if you're interested in learning more about responsible AI and 1:24:06.360 --> 1:24:09.599 ethics of AI, there are very smart people working on this, 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:11.599 so I would check that out. All right, y'all, we're 1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:15.200 gonna take a break. EV's got to go, but Alexa 1:24:15.240 --> 1:24:17.120 and JQ are going to stick around. We're going to 1:24:17.160 --> 1:24:19.080 do brown Boost, Brown Break, and we're gonna take a 1:24:19.200 --> 1:24:22.599 very juicy question from ba Fam from a renter who 1:24:22.680 --> 1:24:26.519 is dealing with a very awkward financial situation with her roommate. 1:24:27.120 --> 1:24:30.880 Stick around, BA Fam will be right back. Okay, ba Fam, 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:32.800 we are back. This is the part of the show, 1:24:32.800 --> 1:24:34.759 one of my favorite parts where we do our brown 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:37.280 boost or brown break. Now, just to remind y'all of 1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:40.760 the rules, they're not that serious. But this is a 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:42.479 time when we are either going to shine a light 1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:44.840 do a boost for something that we love. It can 1:24:44.880 --> 1:24:47.559 be you know, a personal win, a professional win. It 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:51.840 can be your new favorite, you know, efficiency tool that 1:24:51.880 --> 1:24:55.120 you're using. It can be an app, it can be 1:24:55.240 --> 1:24:57.800 something in pop culture that you're really excited about. It's 1:24:57.840 --> 1:25:00.800 yours to shine a light on. But also we are 1:25:00.840 --> 1:25:03.640 here to acknowledge the multitude of feelings that we have, 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:05.200 including the feelings. 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:06.880 Of oh God, not again. 1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:09.599 So that's why we developed the brown break. Brown break 1:25:09.680 --> 1:25:11.360 is something that you are sick of, that you want 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:14.840 to vent about, so feel free to get it off 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:17.679 your chest. I don't want to put y'all on the spot, 1:25:17.720 --> 1:25:21.240 so I'm going to go first. You're well, God, and 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:26.160 having just come off this the first group friend trip 1:25:26.200 --> 1:25:30.320 I've done in like a long time, I forgot how 1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:35.439 tricky and sticky like splitting expenses can be, and how 1:25:35.520 --> 1:25:37.200 kind of awkward it is, especially when you're with a 1:25:37.240 --> 1:25:39.679 group of friends who not everybody is the same level 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:43.040 of front with everybody else. And some people are like, Okay, yeah, 1:25:43.240 --> 1:25:45.080 I'll be happy to pick up the bill for this 1:25:45.200 --> 1:25:47.200 dinner and we can just you know, we can divvy 1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:49.559 up the expenses later. And some people are like, well, 1:25:49.600 --> 1:25:52.240 I did not eat the pida and hummus and I 1:25:52.280 --> 1:25:56.160 did not have a mocktail, so I would like thirteen 1:25:56.240 --> 1:25:59.880 dollars and seventy five cents remove from my I actually, listen, 1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:02.600 I don't hate that, But when you're traveling with like 1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:05.960 different people and a certain group of people is used 1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:09.360 to that more like flexible, like freewheeling, like ooh, someone 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:11.080 will pay, we'll cover it later. And some people are 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:13.920 more used to just covering their own. It can get 1:26:13.920 --> 1:26:17.719 a little sticky, but I will say my friend Baron 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:22.839 during this group trip to London, was so great about 1:26:22.920 --> 1:26:26.519 just like making executive decisions about what the protocol was 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:29.160 going to be. And he had us all download this 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:32.679 app called split Wise, which I haven't used in so long, 1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:35.320 but it's such a great app. I remember it, and 1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:39.559 there's other I think cost splitting apps, but everybody puts 1:26:39.560 --> 1:26:41.600 in what they charged. Now I like to be a 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:44.439 passenger princess. I am happy for everyone else to pay 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:46.000 the bills and then I will just settle up. 1:26:45.960 --> 1:26:46.400 At the end. 1:26:47.120 --> 1:26:50.160 So it was great, And you know, is it fun 1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:54.160 to get that bill after a vacation. No, but it's 1:26:54.320 --> 1:26:58.920 nice to know that, like everyone is gonna be fairly compensated. 1:26:59.000 --> 1:27:02.599 So in a little boost and free Pomo for split 1:27:02.640 --> 1:27:05.360 Wise and my friend Baron for just being that guy 1:27:05.520 --> 1:27:08.960 who wants to get shit done and is type A 1:27:09.120 --> 1:27:12.760 and likes math, because that is so not me. I 1:27:12.880 --> 1:27:13.839 just go for the vibes. 1:27:14.280 --> 1:27:17.439 M Every friend group needs a baron. 1:27:18.479 --> 1:27:21.200 I know you're the baron of your group, Alexa, I 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:22.080 sure as hell. 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:29.639 I really the older sister and me I was raised 1:27:29.680 --> 1:27:32.280 by a Caribbean mother. Yes, I'm gonna give you the 1:27:32.320 --> 1:27:36.120 executive decision of what's happening. I would also be compassionate. 1:27:38.240 --> 1:27:39.560 All right, who wants to go next? What are you 1:27:39.560 --> 1:27:41.320 gonna do? Alexa? Booster break? 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:44.880 Okay, I'm doing a boost. I'm I've been so happy 1:27:44.920 --> 1:27:46.640 as a foo. I mean, I'm always I'm I'm a 1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:50.200 very happy person normally, but I've just been feeling especially 1:27:51.120 --> 1:27:55.679 joyful from this sublet that came very much as a surprise. 1:27:55.880 --> 1:27:58.519 Like my friend contacted me maybe two weeks ago and 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:00.599 she was like, hey, do you the spot? I need 1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:02.200 you to cover my spot in New York. Like I'm 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:04.000 not gonna be able to take it over yet, could 1:28:04.000 --> 1:28:07.840 you be my sub letter? Grow? Yes? Yes, yes, So 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:10.120 I got myself on the bus, I got straight here. 1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:12.519 I'm all settled in, very happy about that. But I 1:28:12.520 --> 1:28:15.800 think especially what I'm gonna boost up right now is 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:19.000 Scott's Cheap Flights, although I believe they go by a 1:28:19.080 --> 1:28:22.040 different name now I should search that up. But Scott's 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:24.200 Cheap Flights. It's a website that tells you all the 1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:28.000 great like playing deals, like flight deals and whatnot. 1:28:28.160 --> 1:28:30.719 I haven't why had not heard of Scott's Cheap Flights before. 1:28:31.760 --> 1:28:35.439 It's amazing I have. I have traveled to over twenty 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:38.240 countries at this point, and that is how I do it. 1:28:38.280 --> 1:28:41.160 Like I stay on flights and I stay on a 1:28:41.280 --> 1:28:44.080 I never play paid full price. I always do it 1:28:44.160 --> 1:28:46.360 via Scott's Cheap Flights, or I set my Google Flight 1:28:46.479 --> 1:28:48.800 Google Fight alerts. You know, I figure out when is 1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:51.479 the best time to go to certain places. But this year, 1:28:51.520 --> 1:28:54.639 I really, really really had a goal, have a goal 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:58.120 of being able to see you know, visit as many 1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:02.160 like two more continents ideally, And so far we're on 1:29:02.280 --> 1:29:05.320 track for that. I you know, We've done Europe, we 1:29:05.320 --> 1:29:09.639 we did Asia, and now I'm going to Columbia next week, 1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:12.160 even though it's gonna be raining the whole time, that's fine. 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:16.680 And then after that Australia to go see my my 1:29:16.720 --> 1:29:17.360 dear dear friend. 1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:18.280 What about Africa. 1:29:18.360 --> 1:29:21.040 These are the things that I I know, listen, listen, 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:23.800 I'm saving I'm saving up. That's a trip where I 1:29:23.800 --> 1:29:26.479 want to be able to stay there for the whole month. Yeah, yeah, 1:29:27.120 --> 1:29:30.080 jump from you know, Nigeria to Ghana to do thele 1:29:30.160 --> 1:29:31.320 I want to do it all. 1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:33.720 I want to keep telling myself that too, are we 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:36.160 overthinking it? Should we just go pick one place to 1:29:36.200 --> 1:29:38.519 go to and like because I'm like, damn, I'm gonna 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:41.880 waiting for this like magical trip and it still hasn't 1:29:41.920 --> 1:29:42.839 happened for years. 1:29:44.240 --> 1:29:46.760 Mine is fully happening next year one hundred. Like I'm 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:48.720 locked in. I just need to save I just need 1:29:48.760 --> 1:29:51.639 to save them because I cannot do Australia, Columbia and 1:29:51.800 --> 1:29:55.519 Africa in the same and in what the next two quarters. 1:29:55.560 --> 1:29:59.160 That's just like I'm just starting to adult. 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:01.280 You're like, I'm not trying to have my own economic 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:04.000 contraction to two quarters in a row. 1:30:05.920 --> 1:30:08.120 I will say it hurt going to London because the 1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:12.639 dollar is weak, y'all. Like things looked affordable. I was like, ooh, 1:30:12.840 --> 1:30:17.080 cocktails are only nine pounds, but that's like double if 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:18.320 you're using US dollars. 1:30:18.320 --> 1:30:20.240 So yeah, the pound is strong. 1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:25.519 Yeah it's expensive over there, but yeah, what I'm boosting 1:30:25.560 --> 1:30:30.040 is Google flight alerts and Scotch cheap flights and really 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:31.360 just saying yes to myself. I saw this. 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:33.080 He's really good for international. 1:30:33.240 --> 1:30:36.080 Yes, yes it is. I've had like round trip flights 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:37.600 of Paris for two hundred. 1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:39.280 Oh now it's called going dot. 1:30:39.080 --> 1:30:42.439 Com, Going dot com? Think you think you? Thank you? 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:46.880 I recommend getting the subscription. It's very cheap, it's phenomenal. 1:30:47.240 --> 1:30:50.759 It's phenomenal. So I'm not being sponsored by them yet. 1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:53.519 I just really love their service. I've been using them 1:30:53.560 --> 1:30:58.040 since over seven years. Right, yes, but yeah, that is 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:00.439 what I'm boosting, just saying yes to things. Usually I'd 1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:02.120 have to plan out the whole trip before I said yes, 1:31:02.200 --> 1:31:08.160 but this time I just hit pay figure it out. 1:31:09.080 --> 1:31:09.799 Thank you. 1:31:11.200 --> 1:31:13.719 Everyone. What's your Instagram? Because you post about your travels 1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:14.960 on IG right, I do. 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:19.400 My Instagram is at moments wac like as in moment 1:31:19.439 --> 1:31:24.479 with Alexa Claire moments wac not moments whack got it. 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:29.439 That's what my brother calls it, my little brother. He's like, 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:30.200 why would you do that? 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:32.559 I'm sorry, I gave a little sister energy. 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:36.519 I am all right, take you. 1:31:37.040 --> 1:31:38.720 I was when I made it. 1:31:40.880 --> 1:31:44.800 Okay, I have a boost and it's riding a bicycle. 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:48.120 So on an upcoming episode of Explain It to Me, 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:50.160 we get a question about bike lanes, you know, why 1:31:50.200 --> 1:31:51.680 are some cities. 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:53.400 Better about having them than others? 1:31:54.280 --> 1:31:58.240 And my producer Miles Brian was like, hey, yeah, let's 1:31:58.240 --> 1:32:01.400 do this. He's a bike guy, like your complete opposites. 1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:04.400 He is very very tall. I am quite short, and 1:32:04.520 --> 1:32:07.439 he like is a full on like bike or he's like, 1:32:07.479 --> 1:32:10.080 I get the span Dex going on the weekends, Like 1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:11.000 I got my helmet. 1:32:11.040 --> 1:32:12.880 I go, y'all. 1:32:13.000 --> 1:32:15.280 I had not gotten on a bike since twenty eighteen. 1:32:15.960 --> 1:32:19.600 It's true that you never forget, you know. We're like, 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:20.519 we're gonna get some tape. 1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:21.080 I got on there. 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:23.639 I was wobbly at first, but y'all, you never forget 1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:24.800 how to ride a bicycle. 1:32:24.880 --> 1:32:26.360 And once I was doing it, I was like, oh 1:32:26.439 --> 1:32:28.439 my gosh, I should do this more. 1:32:28.880 --> 1:32:29.120 Yeah. 1:32:29.160 --> 1:32:32.280 I downloaded the little like a bike share app, and 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:34.080 I just go and I and im like I'm like, 1:32:34.120 --> 1:32:35.120 you know what I mean. 1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:36.360 I'm not like in a ooh. 1:32:36.600 --> 1:32:38.200 This is how I'm gonna get to work because part 1:32:38.200 --> 1:32:41.519 of the reason, you know, hence the bike lanes, Like 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:42.800 I'm like, I'm not trying to get hit. 1:32:42.720 --> 1:32:45.400 By a car out here. It's it's quite spooky, but. 1:32:45.439 --> 1:32:48.479 You know, I'll go on a leisurely ride on the 1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:51.320 weekend or after work. Now, like I'm gonna, I'm gonna 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:54.120 keep this muscle going. I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay with it. 1:32:54.160 --> 1:32:58.120 I think DC has the Capitol Bikes, right, yeah, Capitol 1:32:58.120 --> 1:33:00.960 Bike Share. You just download the app, go up to it, 1:33:01.080 --> 1:33:03.160 and then you about you. 1:33:03.200 --> 1:33:03.920 Just go about it. 1:33:04.120 --> 1:33:05.440 It's sounds like an ex bikes. 1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:07.680 I have not done the e bikes. Apparently they go 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:12.240 like super fast. But oh yeah, really I busted my 1:33:12.360 --> 1:33:15.680 booty on yeah, that's why. That's why I have not 1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:17.559 done the e bike. But I'm like, okay, I'm gonna 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:20.439 get my sea legs. Maybe maybe one day y'all will 1:33:20.439 --> 1:33:23.760 find me down, you know, on the National Mall going 1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:25.880 on a leisurely ride with my friends. 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:30.120 You're gonna have to bring that back. Touching grass, you know, yeah, 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:31.320 you touch a grass. 1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:35.320 Oh frolic this summer. Yes, something brings me so much 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:37.519 joy about seeing a black woman on a bike. Every 1:33:37.520 --> 1:33:39.240 time I see it, I'm like, yes, i feel like 1:33:39.240 --> 1:33:40.840 I'm getting my care. I just love it. 1:33:40.840 --> 1:33:42.720 I feel like I'm getting my care in Bailey ray On. 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:46.320 So I'm like, so, if y'all want to hear me, 1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:49.519 struggle and then not struggle on a bike. Listen to 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:53.160 this week's episode of Explain It to Me, because it's 1:33:53.240 --> 1:33:54.200 it's quite a ride. 1:33:54.800 --> 1:33:56.840 I used to have a bike blog back in the 1:33:57.000 --> 1:33:58.640 when I first moved to New York and I bi 1:33:58.800 --> 1:34:01.120 I blogged about biking in New York and I was 1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:05.000 such a dork about it. But it is instant and dorphin, 1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:06.800 so I'm very excited to listen to that. 1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:08.400 Yeah. 1:34:09.200 --> 1:34:12.200 All right, y'all. Well that's it for the Brown Table. 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:14.719 Thank y'all both so much for joining me, and thank 1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:17.400 you also to Eve Saint Louis. I keep wanting to 1:34:17.400 --> 1:34:19.920 say Eve Saint Laurent, but that's not at all her name, 1:34:20.720 --> 1:34:25.840 Eve Saint Louis from Blavity for joining us. We have 1:34:25.880 --> 1:34:29.719 Alexa Claire go check her out at the Financial Diet. 1:34:30.439 --> 1:34:34.760 And your Instagram again is moments whack wac going with it. 1:34:37.160 --> 1:34:37.360 JQ. 1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:39.920 Where can the people find you, ma'am? 1:34:39.960 --> 1:34:42.840 You can find me in your podcast feed if you 1:34:42.920 --> 1:34:45.160 type and explain it to me, and then on social media, 1:34:45.560 --> 1:34:48.519 I'm Jacque Hill everywhere I feel like being found. 1:34:49.640 --> 1:34:50.160 Amazing. 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:52.400 All right, thank y'all, please come back again to the 1:34:52.439 --> 1:34:55.880 Brown Table, of course, and y'all be a fan. You're 1:34:55.880 --> 1:34:59.120 going to hear from Alexa and Jaq again this Friday 1:34:59.120 --> 1:35:01.639 because they're sticking so much for listening to this week's 1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:04.360 I want to shout out to our production teach take 1:35:04.400 --> 1:35:08.960 Care Courtney, our editor, Carla, our fearless leader for idea 1:35:09.040 --> 1:35:12.680 to launch productions. I want to shout out my assistant 1:35:12.800 --> 1:35:16.880 Lauda Escalante and Cameron McNair for helping me put the 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:20.559 show together. It is not a one person project, as 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:22.840 much as I have tried to make it so these 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:26.639 past ten years, I need help, y'all, and thank goodness 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:28.840 I've been able to put this team around me to 1:35:28.920 --> 1:35:31.479 support me on this journey and to y'all be a 1:35:31.640 --> 1:35:32.559 fam I love you. 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:34.120 So, so so so much. 1:35:34.760 --> 1:35:37.280 Please rate, review, subscribe, Make sure you sign up to 1:35:37.320 --> 1:35:40.920 the newsletter to get all the latest updates on upcoming episodes, 1:35:41.000 --> 1:35:46.160 our tenth year anniversary celebrations to come, and until next time, 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:52.280 talk to you soon via buye