WEBVTT - 2020 ACC Conference Preview 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me. I'm 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.640 a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:10.639 I want to be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.080 You want to be happy for a day? 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.840 Edith Steak is that woo woom? And Dan and Tie 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.639 welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:27.920 name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over there 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.800 in Chicago Land, the one the only mister Dan Rubinstein, Sir, 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:33.279 how are you? 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.160 I'm good, Ty. I'm using a resistance band right now. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.160 This is one hundred percent true. If you saw the risk, all, yeah, 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.320 I've got resistance. I'm doing some curls with resistance bands. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.440 Why well, I've been on the go for quite some time, 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:49.640 and this is the easiest way when you don't have 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.000 a gym, when you don't have weights available to you. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.120 It's I don't know if it's an next best thing, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.600 but it's a thing that you can do to work 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.160 on your tone, on your muscles and tie. I'm just 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.400 staying ready. I don't know what the next few months 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.080 has in store for the college well season, but I 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.199 am staying ready. I'm staying vigilant. I'm keeping my muscle 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.760 tone mediocre because if it slips anywhere beneath that. I 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.040 don't know what to expect. We have a show to do. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.399 There's college football coming up. We're previewing teams. I am 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.119 staying ready. Okay, that's all I can. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.920 This is at least half the plot from over the top. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.800 This is I'm looking pretty good right now, Okay, which 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.479 I guess the ACC is as well, right, looking pretty good? 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.760 Right? Yeah, that's what we call a segue here in 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.160 the business, and by business we mean the industry. We're 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.920 going to be talking about all things ACC football tonight, 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.759 if you can believe it. We did a big twelve 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.160 preview a couple weeks ago, and then things kind of 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.880 got wacky and went sideways and we weren't sure which 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.800 direction all this was going to head. But the last 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.920 here we are welcome to September. We're going to do 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.440 our best to make it a September to remember Daniel, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.040 because we're going to talk all things ACC. And then 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.800 on Thursday we're going to talk all things SEC. And 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.240 then I believe if memory serves, next weekend, the weekend 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.160 after Labor Day, is when we're going to actually have 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.399 some Power five games that we can start discussing here, 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.320 so I'm getting ready for that. We've got all sorts 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.040 of news that we're going to get through. It's been 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.000 very busy, very active, as you might expect. If you've 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.280 just popped onto Twitter or turned on ESPN for any 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.400 length of time, you know that there's a lot breaking 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.880 in and around the college football world, which we can 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.600 try to dabble into here without going too much into 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.960 the nitty gritty because we do have fifteen teams to 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.200 discuss here on the podcast. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.360 I've been looking at social media less and I gotta 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:49.079 tell you, Ty, it's pretty amazing. It's pretty incredible, both 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.040 as relates to college football and world events and just 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.320 people in general. I could not recommend it more. But yeah, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.200 I looked at it today and it seemed to be 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.359 going in a number of different directions as it relates 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.200 to another conference. But I don't know what's going to 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.360 pop up on social media as we record this show. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.520 It tends to change as we record shows. But I 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:17.960 don't think too much about the Wake Forest defense and 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.600 the Boston College offense and the Miami coaching situation. I 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.800 don't think, actually I shouldn't say that about Miami. That 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.360 changes sometimes on a time. I don't think a lot's 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.600 going to change about those specific things as we record, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:30.520 so I'm grateful for. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.160 That as am I don't forget. 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So this whole Big Ten saga around college 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:03.560 football is just weird and nuts and truly presents as 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.880 the Big Ten being left at its own alter in 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.680 a way, they pulled the plug on the season. The 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.679 Pac twelve was very quick to follow suit, and then 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.720 you know, no one else did, and that leaves us 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.440 in this very precarious spot that we're in now, where 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.920 it seems there's a lot of public pressure, there's some 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:27.520 political pressure to maybe revisit that approach and see if 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.680 the season can get off to an earlier start than 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:36.280 that January February timeframe that we've been kicking around. Perhaps Thanksgiving. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.080 Some reports coming out today it could be even sooner 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:43.200 than that. So let's go through that, Dan, if you 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:50.040 don't mind. We had a presidential tweet earlier today. There 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.599 was also supposedly a call between the President and the 0:05:54.640 --> 0:06:00.240 commissioner of the Big Ten, Kevin Warren. The speculation was 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.480 that perhaps the federal government would ship been some resources. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.600 The president said that the league was quote on the 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.480 one yard line after the conversation that they had earlier 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.760 on Tuesday. Those reports have been refuted by many Big 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:19.760 Ten sources. Dennis Dodd from CBS Sports still calling it 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.560 a quote long shot. I've seen that reporting elsewhere as well, 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.839 at least that time of recording, which is about five 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.520 o'clock on Tuesday evening. The other bit that came out 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.040 regarding the Big Ten is this purported vote. Now, remember 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.280 before we didn't know if there was a vote, what 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.000 the deal was with that vote supposedly now and this is, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.760 by the way, as a direct result of that lawsuit 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.240 filed by the eight Nebraska players, which I kind of dismissed, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.080 but it's interesting to get this kind of information, even 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.760 if it's as a result of a lawsuit that may 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.560 not go anywhere. What they found was that Big Ten 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.360 presidents and chancellor has voted eleven to three to cancel 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.480 the twenty twenty fall season. That, of course, is due 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.600 to concerns with the ongoing pandemic. The three teams that 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:13.560 voted to play were Nebraska, Iowa and Ohio state Big 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.520 Ten by laws do require that at least sixty percent 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.800 or nine of the league's presidents and chancellor's vote in 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.480 favor of postponing or you know, making any kind of 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.320 decision here. So a lot to unpack. We've got politics 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.160 interfering now to some extent with with sports. That's just 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.520 where we're at. We'll see if that moves the needle 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.760 in one direction or another. And now we do have 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:41.120 some clarity around the actual vote that did take place 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.480 in order to postpone the fall season. Dan any reaction 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.240 to any of the stuff that I just talked about 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:47.600 regarding the Big Ten. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:52.720 Well, first of all, other conferences canceled their seasons as well, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.080 but I guess it was the Big Ten whose coaches 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.280 and players and parents have been the most vote cool 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.720 and perhaps fans as well because of the size of 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.320 some of the programs in the Big Ten, let's say. 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:10.240 But I just sort of think it's wishful thinking and 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:16.480 political posturing, because I mean, eleven three is like, I 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.720 don't know, when Taiwan plays Norway in the Little League 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.200 World Series, it's kind of a no doubt vote. This 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.280 is not a tipping one. Way or the other, and 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.400 perhaps new information and new testing capabilities has swayed some 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:33.680 of the eleven back towards the three direction, But I 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.000 don't think we've seen any credible reporting to that sort 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.520 of backs up that sentiment right now, So it seems 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.559 like it's wishful thinking, it's political posturing, and the Big 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.000 ten won't be playing anytime soon. I saw a good 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.160 tweet from John Wilner, who covers the PAC twelve for 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.360 the San Jose Mercury News. I believe he said it's 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.040 foolish to think like a fan, to think like a coach, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.080 to think like a player, to think like an ad 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.880 when trying to figure out how and when schools that 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.520 have canceled or postponed college football will go back to it. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.880 It only makes a difference to think like a president 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.440 or chancellor and the things that they are waging, which 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.360 you and I couldn't possibly do, and I couldn't possibly 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.079 think like a president or chancellor, just in the things 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.640 that come across their desk and the things that they're weighing. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.679 So I think that's important to keep in mind because 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:28.600 athletic directors are not in charge. Coaches are not in charge. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:30.400 Parents are not in charge. Players are not in charge. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.600 It's important to remember who ultimately signs a number of 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:40.679 these checks. And so I don't see anything dramatically changing 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.120 our current reality, whether or not you agree with it 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.959 or not. I don't see anything happening that will change 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:46.600 our reality. 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.520 And again, just to circle back to something I said 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.079 on the last episode, we have now officially entered into 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.160 the territory where we've got fans making stuff up and 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.760 sources of sources. This is the sources of friends who 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.600 are interns. And you know not that that stuff isn't 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.920 fun to muse over. I've enjoyed myself, but when it 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.680 comes to actually trying to get the story right, just 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.520 a lot of smoke here, a lot of steam on 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.600 the story. My guess is it's not the last we've 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.080 heard of it. At last check, the Big Ten was 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.880 trying to figure out what its plan was going to 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.439 be moving forward. So we'll do our best to try 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.520 and keep you up to date with that as news breaks, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.720 But at least the time of recording a little bit 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.920 more information, nothing concrete with regard to where the Big 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:33.840 Ten is headed next. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.920 Are you saying you can't track a pandemic on flight aware? 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.280 Is that what you are I am saying, pushing to 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.760 all of our listens, I said, okay, I'm just writing 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.160 this town. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.400 Speaking of concrete plans, the SEC on CBS has released 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.160 it's twenty twenty TV schedule. Hey, okay, they're going to 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.360 try and play. It is exciting, right, I walk me 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.960 through it. We've got an album, a Georgia game on 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.800 TV and LSU Alabama game in prime time. They only 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:10.120 selected six games. Now they follow a workflow to figure 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:11.760 out what the other games are going to be. But 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.160 the ones that we're announced here Saturday, September twenty sixth, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.040 We've got Mississippi State at LSU. Good game. Game to 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.920 start with the following week, on October the third, we've 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.720 got A and M at Alabama. Could be a fun game. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.400 A couple weeks later in mid October, on the seventeenth, 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.480 at eight pm, Georgia at Alabama. That's going to be 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.080 a bigin. I'll watch it, ty, I will as well. Uh. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.600 Two weeks later on Halloween. Oh, this is new math 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.520 for me. So I see eight pm. That's eight pm Eastern. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.079 So this is a seven pm. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:43.959 Seven pm for you. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.000 Master God's country yep. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:51.920 Three point thirty on Halloween. LSU at Auburn h Saturday 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.080 November seventh at three thirty in Jacksonville, Florida versus Georgia, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.760 the Big Cocktail Party and cocktail party. They they've always 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.520 called it that, the Big Cocktail Party, the world's largest 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.000 outdoor cocktail party. For those of you playing the home game. Yeah. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:12.560 And then Saturday, November fourteenth, at six pm Eastern time, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.680 it is Alabama at LSU. That's the last regular season 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.320 game that they've announced. Of course, the SEC Championship would 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:23.160 be weeks later mid December, mid to late December. That 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.080 game will be covered by CBS, and it's played in Atlanta. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.680 Did you see, and I know you didn't put this 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:34.200 in our little document, did you see that Fox is 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.400 taking big noon Saturday. And I think it's going from 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.680 one to two hours. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.320 Okay, less football, more. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:49.319 Robstone crofton Meer, No, No, I'm just saying more robstone and 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.760 Urban Meyer and Matt Lioner, Reggie Bush, I think Brady 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:58.240 Quinn maybe. And I have to imagine they sold a 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:03.439 lot of ads that need a place. Yeah, and suddenly 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.800 a two hour show is some sort of concession that 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.880 they needed a lot of Maybe I'm wrong about that, A. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.120 Lot of goods going on in this college football season, correct, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:16.000 all right? Elsewhere, speaking of the SEC, we'll stay with 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.920 Jamar Chase and Tyler Shelvin, two standouts for ls You 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.440 both have now opted out of the twenty twenty season. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.840 Shelvin eligible for the twenty twenty one draft as a 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:32.920 red shirt junior. Jamar Chase, you could argue he's the 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.720 best receiver in the country. He confirmed earlier this week 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.440 that he was going to opt out, and then Shelvin 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.000 followed suits. This is a pretty big blow for an 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.520 LSU squad that was already down a bunch of their 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.079 key contributors from a year ago. It's Joe Burrow, It's 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.840 Clyde Edwards, Hilaire, you know, I mean, you can go 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.160 on and on here. They lose their top two wideouts. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.040 There's a lot of turnover here. LSU was still well stocked. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.280 They're going to be a very good football team. But 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.520 you know, it's tough to go from a once in 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.920 a generation type season and experience all this attrition and 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.240 then just expect to kind of carry on as usual. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.920 I think there's probably going to be something of a 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:11.480 step back. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.640 I have only read the sort of very generic stories 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.480 about Jamar Chase deciding to opt out of the season. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.280 I have not looked at message boards or people who 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.240 might be in more in the know what they're hearing 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:28.240 from sources of sources. I wonder why the timing was 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.600 what it was because we see know Micah Parsons and 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.640 Rashad Bateman and all these players have been opting out 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.880 well in advance of when camp would have started, the 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.400 season would have started, and now Jamar Chase doing it now. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.560 I don't know why his timing was different. If it's 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.960 just more thought, more consideration, unhappy perhaps with LSU. I 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.840 have no reason to say that i'mhappy with LSU in 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.320 the way they've they've dealt with everything in a new world. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.840 But it is curious that the timing because it sort 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.800 of came out of nowhere, at least for me. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.480 Yeah, and also how about UCF. UCF has had ten 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:12.320 players opt out, Dariel Mack, some key defensive players. Yeah, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.640 so this means that Dylan Gabriel is going to be 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:19.280 the unquestioned starter at quarterback going into the season. Dariel 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.600 Mack was going to provide some depth there because Mackenzie 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:28.200 Milton is still recovering from his horrible injury. And on 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.720 the defensive side, you've got a cornerback Tay Gowan, a 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.400 junior defensive tackle, and Kelly Davis, two projected starters who 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.960 are opting out. So you know, UCF's one of the 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.760 better group of five schools. There's no denying that they 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.280 may or may not have won a national championship a 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.240 couple of years ago, depending on your point of view. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.160 But the one thing that I think we find pretty 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.760 consistent all throughout the group of five is depth is 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.440 always a concern, always a concern. To lose this many 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.200 players is a big deal. So we'll see what it 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.040 means for the UCF season moving forward, but definitely something 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:04.440 to watch. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.680 Yeah, and this would have been a UCF team led 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.000 by a really strong defense, and not that they it 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.560 won't still be strong, but yeah, this might be the 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.240 best group of five school in the country. We'll see, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.960 but yeah, that's a significant blow. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.880 You're correct. And the final bit of news that I 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.920 have here, we have two starting quarterback announcements, neither of 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.600 which is all that big a surprise for Oklahoma. Spencer Rattler, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.440 former top recruit for the Oklahoma Sooners, comes in with 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.080 very high regard. This is interesting because, as we said 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.920 on our Big twelve previews show, Lincoln Riley's always been 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.960 in the situation where he's been inheriting a previous quarterback 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.160 or dealing with the transfer. So now we've got Spencer Ratler, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.320 this is his first home grown quarterback at Oklahoma, we'll 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.160 see how he does. And at Florida State we got 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.920 James Blackman, who we're going to talk a little bit 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.400 about on tonight's show is preview. All things acc no 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.680 big surprise, and I think there's a chance he could 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.119 be challenged for that spot at some point in the 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.880 near future, but at least to start the season, it's 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:10.600 going to be Blackman. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.719 He's a red shirt junior, I believe. And also, no 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.720 matter what happens this fall, the NCAA is going to 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:26.880 be forgiving about eligibility with players. So there's a good 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.000 chance I'll have three to four more children before James 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.040 Blackman out of college football. It's incredible, I really and 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.520 we can get to this. I really hope he finishes 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.399 his college football career better than it seems to have started. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.080 It's been rocky and he's had to work through a lot. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.639 So we wish him well and we'll get to some 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.520 of our deeper in some cases darker Florida State thoughts 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:57.000 here momentary? All right, anything further that you have on 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:57.480 your radar? 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.679 I don't think so. I everything is such a bummer. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.280 I want to talk about fun, good football things, all. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.720 Right, So I've got sounds that I could play. Why 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.240 don't we play this one as we get into all 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:21.040 things ACC kind of gives that aura of mystique of mystery. Right, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.280 how do you feel generally speaking about the ACC? I 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.840 know you did a ton of research. Yep. One thing 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.080 that jumped out at me if I could start this 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:39.120 is probably the best quarterback conference in college football. Uh yeah. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.080 Seems like a down here for the SEC and at 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.960 the top. It's interesting. I think in the Big Twelve, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.439 if you look at what we presume Spencer Rattler to 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.760 be what we know, Sam Ellinger to be what we know, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.520 Brock Purty to be a good chunk of the time, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.280 I think the Big Twelve is pretty interesting. We don't 0:18:58.280 --> 0:18:59.680 know health of Texas Tech. I'm not going to go 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:04.439 through everybody, but yeah, in terms of proven commodities and 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.840 experience and having a good sense of what these guys 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.760 can and can't do. I think the upside is pretty 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.679 pretty nice. Any other thoughts, it's fascinating underneath the top 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.440 team and a half I guess in Clemson and Notre 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.720 Dame just the I don't know if it's the middle 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.960 class this year that seems to be everywhere, but the 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:27.080 upper middle class to me is the fascinating part of 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.520 the conference. There are chunks of teams that are interesting, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:36.080 like North Carolina and Florida State and Louisville and Miami, 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:42.119 and then there are sort of pseudo rebuilding situations I 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.760 guess still like Florida State in Miami, but also Virginius 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:49.479 or retooling their identity on offense after Wally's derbyax own 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:54.399 Bryce Perkins do everything guy under center moves on. So no, 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.560 I think there are there are interesting elements that are 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.919 a little bit different because we've had We've had some 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.359 teams bottom out after some recent successes like Syracuse and 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.920 NC State and then teams like Wake Forest in Boston 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:11.280 College seeing if new guys either on the field or 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.800 on the sidelines will make some sort of appreciable difference 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.840 or are they just going to be that sort of 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:18.760 consistent element to the conference. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:24.280 Well, Dan, it is America's Conference of Champions, is it? Oh? 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.600 That's right, Parre you the ACC and let's start at 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:32.000 the very top. Let's talk about Clemson. Let me ask 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:36.080 you a hypothetical. Actually, i'll play this sound again. Why not? Yeah? If? 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:42.240 And that's it? If that's bolded, italicized with little asterisks 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.520 around it. Whatever you I can't even say it right. 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:49.760 Maybe a slab seraph situation going on? Whatever you're into. Yeah, 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.240 IF is doing a lot of work here. But if 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:57.199 an ACC team is gonna beat the Clemson Tigers, is 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.879 it more likely in your view to be because of 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.520 the situation they have up front basically a new offensive line, yeah, 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:10.360 or a largely new full time secondary or is there 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:10.880 something else? 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.320 Maybe that I missed? But where do you stand on that? 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.520 Where is the weakness that could be exploited by again, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.960 a hypothetical ACC opponent? 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.040 We should agree that we either are or are not 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.040 going to talk about the broader universe of things that 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.080 can happen to football teams, coaches and players. 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:34.840 Right, Well, you're asking, are we or are we not 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:39.320 permitted to talk about a potential outbreak at right Clemson, 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.560 I think they already had that one, didn't they. 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.720 Yeah, there were positive tests and outbreaks both with students. 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:47.800 I haven't heard a lot about Clemson recently, which I'm 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.680 very happy about. Anytime there is an outbreak and then 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.160 I don't hear anything that's good, that means there's no 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.439 horrible news happening on a campus. So I'm happy for that. 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.159 So if we're going to agree that every team is 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.399 susceptible in a way that they never are in twenty twenty, 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.919 just because of circumstances that are new to this world, 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.280 if we're only talking about what where is a team 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.119 like Clemson most susceptible, and as it relates to on 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:15.880 field things, I think it's the secondary. I think it's 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.720 the secondary. For this reason, Trevor Lawrence, behind an average 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:22.960 offensive line, is going to be excellent even with the 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.840 loss of Justin Ross. He has Traves Etn next to him, 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.840 He has a slew of receivers that are going to 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.679 be developed really well. As it seems every receiver at 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.280 Clemson is because of Dabo Sweeney's pass and his ability 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:39.880 to hire really good receiving minds, so I'm not really 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.119 all that worried about the offensive line. They've also recruited good, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.439 They've recruited well there, so I don't think that's going 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.919 to be a big issue. Especially with the defenses. I 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.359