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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Tim Tebow his success at the University of

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Speaker 1: Florida was probably a blessing and a curse for the

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Speaker 1: former Heisman Trophy winner because it did provide him with

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Speaker 1: multiple opportunities, multiple opportunities to try to play quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and then he switched to play baseball, and

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Speaker 1: that was a cash grab for the Mets. They were

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Speaker 1: using Tebow. Tebow didn't mind having the opportunity to maybe

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Speaker 1: show that he could play baseball, and now here he

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Speaker 1: is back with the NFL. He's expected to sign a

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Speaker 1: one year deal with the Jags to play tight end.

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Speaker 1: Problem is, he's thirty three and he hasn't played tight

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Speaker 1: end before. Other than that productive players like Logan Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He was a quarterback Virginia Tech. He's now a good

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Speaker 1: tight end, A jack of all trades. Taysom Hill, quarterback

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Speaker 1: at BYU, jack of all trades. Tebow hasn't played football

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Speaker 1: since the twenty fifteen preseason. Presumably they are younger players

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Speaker 1: with more speed who actually played tight end, But you

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Speaker 1: have to think that the JAG's head coach Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: is bringing in Tim Tebow for his leadership, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: for his skill. And maybe he's bringing him in as

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Speaker 1: a favor, and that's understandable. It's a ninety man roster.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that he makes the team. I think

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Speaker 1: it might be I'll do you a favor. Come on in.

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Speaker 1: These guys are neighbors in Jacksonville. They live a couple

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Speaker 1: of houses from each other. Now that doesn't mean Urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer wants to bank on Tim Tebow being his starting

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Speaker 1: tight end. I think we've made that big leap from

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Speaker 1: all they're they're gonna sign Tebow. Okay, let me wait

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Speaker 1: and see if he makes the roster here. This is

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Speaker 1: a ninety man roster. When they get it down to

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Speaker 1: fifty three, is Tim Tebow still there? And he might

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Speaker 1: be fourth or fifth on the depth chart. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he can block an edge usher. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he can get off a block and get

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Speaker 1: down field. I don't know what he capable of running.

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Speaker 1: I don't know his hands. I don't know if he

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Speaker 1: can catch. But I'm curious how it started Tebow call.

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Speaker 1: Did he just go, Hey, I'm gonna go get some

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Speaker 1: sugar from a coach. I'm gonna go knock on his door, Hey, coach, Uh,

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Speaker 1: can I borrow some sugar and play tight end for you?

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Speaker 1: What some sugar in play tight end for you? Maybe

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Speaker 1: serviceable tight end? Uh? Yeah, sure, come on in. I

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Speaker 1: mean the Jags have five tight ends on their roster

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Speaker 1: right now. You might go, who are those tight ends? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. They don't have a big name, but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know James O'Shaughnessy. You have Chris man Hurts, Luke Farrell.

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Speaker 1: Did you say Chris Man Hurts. You made that up? No,

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Speaker 1: you made that up. Chris Man hurt Man Hurts, Ben

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Speaker 1: Ellefson and Tyler Davis. Man Hurts was signed in free agency.

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Speaker 1: He has twelve catches in seventy career games. O'Shaughnessy has

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Speaker 1: eighty eight catches in six seasons with Kansas City in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Ellefson has one career catch. Davis played in eight games

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Speaker 1: last season after Jag selected him in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: Farrell is the team's fifth round pick this year. I

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Speaker 1: believe he's out of Ohio State. Somebody's losing a job

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Speaker 1: in this group here. I don't know how many tight

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Speaker 1: ends you normally keep, but they do have a roster there.

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Speaker 1: Meyer and Tebow did something special at Florida and maybe

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Speaker 1: they can recapture some of that Tebow magic, Tebow time,

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Speaker 1: a surprise second football life for Tim. Yes, todd Man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt if Tebow takes his spot. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you can possibly look yourself in the mirror

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Speaker 1: after that. And here's the wind up and the pitch.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, todd Yeah, I'm not up in arms about it.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of players, former players, who were saying,

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Speaker 1: why is he getting a chance here? I mean, what

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Speaker 1: is the down sign? Here? Can you play? I don't

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Speaker 1: think urban Meyer is going to keep him on the

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster if he can't play. But urban

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Speaker 1: Meyer does had total autonomy there, and maybe this is

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Speaker 1: one of those Hey, you didn't make the team, do

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Speaker 1: you want to stay on my coaching staff. That's the

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Speaker 1: feeling I got is and this is why I thought

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith was going to go to Jacksonville and maybe

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Speaker 1: back up Trevor Lawrence, just to give him some guidance.

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Speaker 1: He has a relationship with urban Meyer from their days

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Speaker 1: when they played at Utah. He quarterbacked at Utah and

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Speaker 1: he just said he didn't want to play anymore. But

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Speaker 1: the staff as an assistant coach, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: got the NFL up in arms. How dare Tim Tebow

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Speaker 1: take away a roster spot. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: going to the ninety man, that's different than the fifty three. Now,

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Speaker 1: a discussion there. Yeah, Paully, I just checked the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars shop dot com and no Tibo Jersey. Yet you

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Speaker 1: need Trevor Lawrence. I got eight different options for you,

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Speaker 1: Travis et n Yeah, because those nothing for Tebow's big

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Speaker 1: with I was like, the NBA will keep an old

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Speaker 1: player on the rock like Udanni's. Hasslim is actually still

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Speaker 1: on the heat roster. He doesn't play. But then Jowan

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Speaker 1: Howard did this forever, like, but the NFL feels like

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Speaker 1: you can't really do that, just keep a player coach.

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Speaker 1: But but they didn't take nine years off. Tim hasn't

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Speaker 1: played football in nine years, right, But Hasslim doesn't even

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Speaker 1: get in the games. He's just a coach that happened

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Speaker 1: to stick on the roster. Yeah, that's really what Tibo

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Speaker 1: would be if he happens to make the team, right

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Speaker 1: or would he play well, He's still taking a roster spot.

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Speaker 1: That's that That's what has a lot of the former

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Speaker 1: players upset. It feels like, how dare him take a

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Speaker 1: a roster spot in the Mets farm system? I guess

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Speaker 1: he did, But I blame that on the Mets. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if the Mets didn't sign Tim Tebow, I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody else was going to. That was, hey, we're going

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Speaker 1: to use you, Tim, you can use us and maybe

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Speaker 1: you get a chance to play in the major leagues.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Now he's trying to play tight

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Speaker 1: end at age thirty three, which is what a lot

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Speaker 1: of us suggested to Tim, me included years ago. Did

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Speaker 1: you ever as soon as you would bring that up,

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Speaker 1: he'd shut it down. Why don't you try tight nump?

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Speaker 1: I want to play quarterback? And I understand that a

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Speaker 1: lot of this is the ego. I won the Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy as a quarterback. I won a playoff game in Denver.

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Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback. And then you realize you're not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Taysom Hill said I'm only a quarterback, he might

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Speaker 1: not be in the league. Antoine Randall l if he said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to play quarterback, he wouldn't have had that career.

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Speaker 1: But he did. He had a great career. Eric Crouch

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Speaker 1: famously didn't want to be a kick returner or wide

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Speaker 1: receiver with the Rams. He wanted to be a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get that opportunity. Eight seven seven three DP

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Speaker 1: fascinating how many lives Tebow has. He's managed every couple

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Speaker 1: of years to pop up, have some relevancy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a mat for a couple of years, then you

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Speaker 1: know college game day, good really good media gig and

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Speaker 1: then one last call at age thirty three to play

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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. With this young, hot quarterback fascinating. I

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Speaker 1: just want to wait until they get to camp. Let's

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Let's see if he can play the position.

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Speaker 1: I don't think urban Meyer is going to keep him

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Speaker 1: on the roster to do him a favor because Urban

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Speaker 1: ultimately has to win. Who gives us the best chance

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Speaker 1: a formidable lineup of tight ends there, and they don't.

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Speaker 1: But if Tim Tebow gets a chance, maybe that's all

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Speaker 1: he's asking, like one last chance. Let's see. Okay, it

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Speaker 1: didn't work out, and it didn't work out with my

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Speaker 1: former coach. Now I know I can put all of

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Speaker 1: this to rest because there's no more baseball, there'd be

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Speaker 1: no more football, and that he could be an analyst

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Speaker 1: if he wanted to with the Mothership, or he could

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Speaker 1: be an assistant coach there. But also understand this is

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Speaker 1: a business, like the NFL is a reality show. It

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Speaker 1: truly is the ultimate reality show. If you can somehow

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Speaker 1: cash in on Tim Tebow, would Shod Khan and the

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Speaker 1: Jags be opposed to that? Answers No, you call hard

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Speaker 1: knocks right away, and you say, hey, come on down,

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Speaker 1: come on we got Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer and Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow make hard knocks all about Tim Tebow, and you

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Speaker 1: have that dramatic voice, the former Heisman Trophy winner just

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Speaker 1: can't seem to hang on. Then they drops the ball

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Speaker 1: they had the music you build. Urban shakes his head.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence throws it to Tim Tebow. Oh be so exciting.

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Speaker 1: Let me see if he makes the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: Who wants to bet on Tim Tebow making the fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster here, not the practice squad. No, he

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Speaker 1: is opening day roster. Suit it up, suit it up,

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Speaker 1: Ready to go, coach, Put me in, coach, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to play. Who wants a piece of that? Tim Tebow

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Speaker 1: is on the field in a uniform. Week one crickets, rickets, Paulie.

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Speaker 1: How many tight ends can you have on a roster?

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Speaker 1: Is a rule against it? No? I don't think I

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Speaker 1: think you can have you know, ten if you want. Mclovin.

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Speaker 1: Would teams normally carry three two? Three? Yeah, I'm not sure,

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Paul? Do most NBA NFL teams

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Speaker 1: inactive practice squadish? Yeah, that's like you know, the Packers

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even dressed to play in games last year.

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Speaker 1: They have to have a backup quarterback. They may have

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Speaker 1: expected when Adam Schefter joined us, he said they're going

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Speaker 1: to be bringing in quarterbacks. That wasn't news. What happened

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Speaker 1: yesterday that the Packers announced they're bringing in some candidates here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Do you sneak down the hallway to just sit in

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Speaker 1: on some quarterback meetings? Do you think he would try that?

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Speaker 1: Minshew I think is still there. It feels like Gardner

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Speaker 1: somebody who would be ready? Because this is a team

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Speaker 1: And if you don't have Aaron Rodgers, then who can

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Speaker 1: did we just lay the Tebow story to Aaron Rodgers somehow?

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Speaker 1: on your show every Friday. It was great. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna blame Fritzie for that. Fritzie, why

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Speaker 1: haven't you had Tim Kirchin. I it is a major oversight.

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Speaker 1: I love Timmy and I have no excuse for that.

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Speaker 1: But at all, Fritzie's always going, let's get for duci

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Speaker 1: on and I go in Rosenthal. I said, wow, what

426
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: about Kirchin? I did say, Buster can't do it today?

427
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: So what about We were okay with it. It's great

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Speaker 1: to have you on, Tim, great to talk to you again.

429
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Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking about this with the

430
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Speaker 1: strikeouts when we were growing up. If you struck out

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Speaker 1: one hundred times as a hitter, that was embarrassing. Now

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00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: it's okay. At what point did it did we change

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Speaker 1: where it's okay to strike out in baseball? For me, Dan,

434
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: it came in the mid eighties when Vo Jackson, Jim Presley, Robbed,

435
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: Dear Pete Incavelia. They all came to the big leagues

436
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, big strong guys, swung as hard

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Speaker 1: as they could. At twenty five thirty homers year, struck

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Speaker 1: out one hundred and fifty times and ever since then

439
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: it has been okay to kay, that's about thirty five years,

440
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: but the last five to ten years this is completely

441
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Speaker 1: out of control. Now a thousand and ninety two more

442
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: strikeouts in April than there were hits. It is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You talk about one hundred strikeout guys DAN. From nineteen

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00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: hundred to nineteen sixty three combined, there were ninety four

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00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: individual players who struck out one hundred times, and now

446
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: every year we have one hundred and sixty guys or

447
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: so who strike out one hundred times or more. It's

448
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: amazing what we're watching these days. And it's mostly because

449
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: the stuff these guys see on a nightly basis is

450
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: ridiculously good. The velocity is so far off the charts,

451
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: and yet it's the secondary stuff that's even better than

452
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: the velocity. And it comes down to this. When Jacob deGrom,

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Speaker 1: Max Scherzer, Garrett Cole are dealing and they're locating, our

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Speaker 1: hitters have no chance against them. They don't just make

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Speaker 1: it out, they strike out. It's remarkable what we're watching

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Speaker 1: every night now. But also, and I know it's I'm

457
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: to get off my lawn guy, but put the ball

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00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: in play like put put your bat on the ball,

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00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: and you don't see that. And this is what I

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00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: miss with baseball. It's subtle, but it is the hit

461
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: and run a stolen base hitting it the other way.

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00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: Oh there's a shift on. Oh my gosh, how about

463
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: you just hit it where there's nobody over there? So

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Speaker 1: I can you see somebody embracing what Whitey Herzog had

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, where it's going to be speed and

466
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: defense and running like something that's counterintuitive to what we have.

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Speaker 1: Will we have a team that does that? No, Dan,

468
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Speaker 1: we won't. That Cardinal team was built for doing that.

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00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: They played on AstroTurf. They had a bunch of really

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Speaker 1: fast guys. They beat the ball into the ground and

471
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: outran everybody. We don't play that game anymore, Dan, I

472
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: did the game last night, Ravi, Eduardo president I, and

473
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: we had two bunths for a hit, and we had

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Speaker 1: two sacrifice bunts last night and one was a squeeze

475
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Speaker 1: and I almost started. I'm so happy to see that

476
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: because we don't play that game anymore. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at the Yankees. I'm doing the Yankee game tonight with

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00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Ravvi and Eduardo. The Yankees don't have a triple. Yet

479
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: they have seven stolen bases all season, which is a

480
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: lot for them, but it's the fuse in the league,

481
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: and they average about one double per game. This is

482
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Speaker 1: where we are. If you don't hit the ball out

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00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: of the ballpark, as most teams do, you simply don't

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Speaker 1: win these days. And I desperately miss growing up at

485
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: a time where Rod Carew would dump a bunt and

486
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: get a hit, Brett Butler would drag one to the

487
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: right side and get a hit, And we don't have

488
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: that anymore. And I miss it because I think those

489
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: are the most skillful, exciting parts of the game, and

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00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: I think we're all a little bit tired of just

491
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: watching guys hit it as far as they can and

492
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: strike it out three times in between. I was also

493
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: wondering about the pitching stats here. We've had four no

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: hitters already this season. If it's a swing and miss

495
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: league and nobody's putting the ball in play, then we're

496
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: probably gonna the single season no hit record, I'm gonna guess,

497
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: or we should be flirting with it right well, eight

498
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: is the record that was done in the eighteen hundreds.

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00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: But Dan, you're right, we have lost the value of

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Speaker 1: the hit in the game. Today, we're no longer interested.

501
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: Nor are our hitters being taught to hit a hard

502
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: groundball through that hole over there. They're not interested in

503
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: getting a single. Last year, Dan, the Reds who made

504
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs, had more walks than singles. It's the first

505
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: time in history any team has finished with more walks

506
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: than singles. That's where we are now. But I'm going

507
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: to try to defend our hitters because I'm with you

508
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: on this. Can we please just put it in play?

509
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: Can we please beat the shift over there? But our

510
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: guys have been swinging the same way for fifteen years.

511
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: They have one swing and it's beautiful. And if you

512
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: run into that bad path, it's not a liner to left,

513
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: it's a home run. To ask these guys who have

514
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: been hitting the same way for fifteen years, Okay, we're

515
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna make a big change tonight. We want you to

516
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: choke up and hit it to right field, and we

517
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: want you to do it against Max Scherzer tonight. Good

518
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: luck with that. It's like telling a basketball player, you know,

519
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: the way you've been shooting for all these years, we

520
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: want you to change your shooting motion tonight and we

521
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: want you to not follow the flight of the ball.

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: A lot of guys still do that. That's a hard

523
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: thing to do. So I think to ask a hitter, hey,

524
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: we want you to make a change, and we want

525
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: you to go out and get a hit off of

526
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber. Well, good luck with that. So that's the

527
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: concern is this is a this is going to take

528
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: years to make the change, and we're gonna have to

529
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: literally go to batting cages where ten year olds are

530
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: hitting and tell them, all right, this is what we

531
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: want you to do. We want you to hit it

532
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: over there, and we don't want you to try to

533
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: get it up in the air every single time. You

534
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: just called Shane Bieber Justin Bieber. I did not, did

535
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I really? And I wouldn't know Justin Bieber if I

536
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: fell over. I'm sorry what happened to you. This is

537
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: why we don't have Tim Kirchin on Todd. Justin Bieber

538
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: is all about it. I'm sorry that that's terrible. You

539
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: know what, We'll take it out of the rear, okay,

540
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: So don't don't worry about that. We'll clean it up. Well,

541
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about music, and I just found

542
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: out the other day that Chris Martin is the lead

543
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: singer in cold Play. I wouldn't know one of their songs,

544
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and did they hit me over the head either, So

545
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: anything that is pop culture wise, just leave me out.

546
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: What's the last concert you attended? Well, I've only been

547
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: to three in my whole life, and I'm sixty four

548
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: years old. I went to see Dan Fogelberg in college

549
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: on a date that was a disaster. By the way,

550
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: then wait, why was it a disaster? Well, me and

551
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: a woman in college. I had no idea what to do.

552
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: That's why it was a disaster. And by the way,

553
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: that still goes today. So you were striking out before

554
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: at the rate of today's baseball players, way worse than

555
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: today's right, Yes, I didn't even try at you didn't

556
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: have a launch angle, did you, right? And then my daughter,

557
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: my daughter in the eighth grade, we went to see

558
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Yellow Card, which I kept getting mixed up. I kept

559
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: calling him a green Card because I get I can

560
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: miss them up with Green Day or something, and stupid

561
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: me having been to one concert in my life, I

562
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: was told concert starts at seven thirty. So I have

563
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: five eighth grade girls in my car and I think,

564
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: all right, concert starts at seven thirty, will be done

565
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: by nine oh, by ten, it'll be great. They had

566
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: like four bands play before Yellow Card or Green Card

567
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: or whatever they were called, and they went on at

568
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: ten thirty. We got home at like one thirty in

569
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: the morning on a school night. The women were like

570
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: ready to kill me. It was so bad. And then

571
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: I saw Kenny Chesney at Syracuse when we dropped our

572
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: daughter off for college about ten years ago. So I'm

573
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Speaker 1: sixty four and I've been to three concerts in my life,

574
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: and I just found out the other day Molly Hatchett

575
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: is not a woman. Someone should have told me that

576
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: before this. How are the Dodgers? Do you start when

577
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: you start to worry if you're a Dodger fan? Here,

578
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: Tim Well, they've lost fifteen out of twenty, and during

579
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: that stretch only the Tigers have played worse than the Dodgers.

580
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Who knew this is the ultimate beauty of the game, Dan,

581
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: the Warriors and their great days never never had a

582
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: five and fifteen stretch where you wondered, are they okay?

583
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are gonna be fine. They got a bunch

584
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: of injuries, they haven't hit in two weeks. It's gonna change.

585
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the best team in baseball by the

586
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: end of the year. But it just shows you when

587
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: people ask me when the season started, well, the Dodgers

588
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: win one hundred and seventeen games this year, I said, no,

589
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: it's too hard to do that in today's game. So

590
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: this is a bad rough patch for them. They'll get

591
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: out of it. They'll be great before long. Do you

592
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: still play basketball? Yeah? I played. The other This was

593
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: so bad. I was at a gym and I was

594
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: just shooting by myself and these two kids came up

595
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: to me, and there was another like old guy in

596
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: there shooting at another hoop. The two kids, probably ten

597
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: years old, said, do you guys want to play two

598
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: on two? So I assumed the two old guys would

599
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: pair up and we'd have a little you know, a

600
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: young guy and an old guy. Instead, the two little

601
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: guys wanted to play the two old guys two on two.

602
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: So that was the last time that I played. And

603
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: I took that ten year old to the rack. To

604
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: believe me, I was pretty proud of because he was

605
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: bigger than I was. So now you used to play

606
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: hoops with Cal Ripkin. All right, yess how good was

607
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: rip You know? Amazing Dan? He never played in high

608
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: school and he became a great basketball player. I mean

609
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: he's so big and so strong around the rim. You

610
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: just cannot move him with those giant legs in the lane.

611
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: So if I made this is terrible. I should never

612
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: say this. He asked me once, He said, show me

613
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: how to do that move that you do. Okay, and

614
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: it's a little guy move that If I can't make

615
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: that play, I can't play anywhere, all right. So I

616
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: show it to him. And it took me like a

617
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: year to perfect that move for me. So I showed

618
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: it to him, and then we played like three days

619
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: later and he's using that move in the game. Three days.

620
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: It took him, but you know what he did. You

621
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: know what he did. He practiced that. He went into

622
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: the gym by himself and worked on this little shake

623
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: with his left hand and then crossed to his right

624
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: the move I showed him. He had it in three days.

625
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: It took me. It took me a year. He had

626
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: it in three days. That's how great an athlete he is. See,

627
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: this is why we have Tim kirchin On. I love

628
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: Tim Kirchen. I don't understand how this happened. Way too long.

629
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Speaker 1: D doesn't have stories like this, are right? That was

630
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: That's my bad. I got confused. Now Rosenthal does, but

631
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Speaker 1: Verducci does. Not a bad phone line anyway. Oh we

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Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. And they make it hard sometimes. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: we're getting back to it. Dan, don't worry. But thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on today. It's really nice to see it.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, Timmy. Be sure to catch the

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