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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Bobby Hall aka Logic. I'm just playing long with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just playing in lone with you. Hey there, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. I'm Nora, and with me as always

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Speaker 1: is Sarah Oda. Hi. Hi, Hi. We have a fun

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Speaker 1: episode today.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is Bobby Hall aka Logic.

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Speaker 1: He is an incredible human and I remember after we

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Speaker 1: taped this episode, we were in Malibu and you and

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Speaker 1: I were floating on a cloud.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. It was like the best day.

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Speaker 1: It really was. It really filled us with a lot

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Speaker 1: of love and good feelings. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking today about how and doing this show,

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Speaker 3: we've been so fortunate to have guests that exude positivity,

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Speaker 3: you know, from Mayva Staples to Mark Revie to Valerie June.

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Speaker 3: It's just so inspirational to be around people who have

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Speaker 3: that positive energy. And I feel like Logic Bobby Hall

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Speaker 3: is sort of the mother load of that message.

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Speaker 1: He definitely has that positive energy. His mantra is peace,

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Speaker 1: love and positivity. Yeah, and he lives it. He really

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Speaker 1: is a unique person. I first got introduced to Bobby

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Speaker 1: through a mutual friend deep in the pandemic over text message,

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Speaker 1: and it was really random getting to know him that way,

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Speaker 1: and he always sent me songs and pictures of his

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Speaker 1: family and just real sweet guy. And so we've become

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Speaker 1: friends over the years, and it was so fun to

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Speaker 1: get to dive into his music and play with him.

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Speaker 3: He's an incredible rapper, a producer, a poet, musician. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's put out so many albums and he has so

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Speaker 3: many more brewing just in his brain is on fire

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Speaker 3: with all these ideas.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I definitely got the feeling just being in the room

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Speaker 1: with him that he has endless ideas. He's one of

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Speaker 3: The vibe between him and his whole crew is so fun,

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Speaker 3: like just it's such a good group to be around.

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Speaker 3: Like when we were in Malibu, I feel like people

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Speaker 3: know this about me, but I'm not really a hugger,

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Speaker 3: But I feel like when we left, I hugged everybody.

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Speaker 1: I was You're hug adaptable, though I am. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: choosy with my hugs. Though, yeah, you are a little cheosy.

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Speaker 2: They all got hugs.

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Speaker 1: When was the last time we hugged? Oda nineteen kidd.

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Speaker 1: We caught up with Bobby this summer when I was

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Speaker 1: on tour in LA, right after he put out his

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Speaker 1: album Vinyl Days, and we talk a little bit about that,

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Speaker 1: we sing some songs together, and then later in the

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Speaker 1: show he gets some of his beats going and that

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Speaker 1: was actually also really fun for me to play along

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Speaker 1: to these beats that he made. So he's he's an

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Speaker 1: incredible performer, and this is such a fun episode and

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to really enjoy it. The first

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Speaker 1: song you're going to hear of his is well known

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Speaker 1: as the one eight hundred song, and the subject matter

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Speaker 1: and the lyrics does refer to suicide and suicide prevention.

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Speaker 1: If you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts,

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Speaker 1: please know that help is out there. Caller text nine

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Speaker 1: to eight eight to get the support you need. And now,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, please enjoy Bobby Hall aka Logic displaying

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Speaker 1: alone with you.

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Speaker 4: So it's pretty chill, right, So if I have to P,

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Speaker 4: I can just pee whenever I want, totally. Yeah, my

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Speaker 4: A million times.

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Speaker 1: Are you nervous or excited?

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Speaker 2: Both?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Good. Yeah, well, why don't we play a song?

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Speaker 2: Okay, play a song?

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Speaker 1: Is that weird?

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Speaker 2: I mean you play a song?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have. I don't know how this is going

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Speaker 1: as we play some music.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Actually this kind of sounds cool.

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Speaker 1: Actually, well, I know you might be sick of the

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Speaker 1: one eight hundred song.

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Speaker 2: No, I love that song. I was sick of it, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then I was like, oh my god, this is amazing.

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Speaker 4: When I stepped away and I wasn't doing it, Like,

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Speaker 4: how did you feel about come away with me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like there were certain songs that I got really

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Speaker 4: Now I'm like, I mean I was then but so

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Speaker 4: I'm like the one eight hundred guy, and now I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm the one hundred guy.

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Speaker 2: Man, Like I'm the guy who did that song.

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Speaker 1: I kind of bad ass and the song is deep

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Speaker 1: and it is it's real emotion.

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Speaker 2: That was the last song I made for that album.

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Speaker 4: It was on an album called Everybody, and I was

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Speaker 4: kind of rapping from different perspectives of people, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was the last one because I didn't want to

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Speaker 4: I just like put it off and put it off.

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Speaker 4: And it's the last song in the world that I

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Speaker 2: I didn't think anybody was gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Like, yo, we in the club right now, Suicide Prevention.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, they probably didn't play it in the club.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think that's how it goes. You know,

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Speaker 4: And I agree. I feel like I've been blessed to

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Speaker 2: Now, that's what that is.

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Speaker 1: That is not common anymore.

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Speaker 2: Fans man like people who appreciate you. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: So every time I tried for a hit, it never worked,

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Speaker 4: and then I didn't try, and then it happened.

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Speaker 2: And then while it happened, I was like, I'm striking

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Speaker 2: while the iron's high. Then I just like had all

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Speaker 2: these like big records in hip hop.

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Speaker 1: But you also you think really fast, and so you're

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Speaker 1: you're creating music that's inspired fast. Oh artists do that.

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Speaker 2: Some people, Yeah, they take like five years, yeah, or they.

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Speaker 1: Put uf out too soon, and there it wasn't really inspired.

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Speaker 1: To strike while the iron's hot. You have the lucky

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Speaker 2: I just feel like there's different sides of myself.

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Speaker 4: So even when I was like, all right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: I worked with this DJ named Marshmallow, and he's like

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Speaker 4: and I was like, Yo, let's make something for the party,

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Speaker 4: make some just rap shit, like let's just rap and

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Speaker 4: just have fun. And then you know, different songs that

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Speaker 4: I've done, but that one it was unintentional.

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Speaker 2: It was not planned one hundred by any means.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's an emotional, obviously emotional song for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous, don't be nervous Jones.

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Speaker 5: Jones.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know you famous.

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Speaker 4: When somebody's like says both of you your names, your

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Speaker 4: first and last name, that's how you know you're famous.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I don't get it, like it's like, oh shit,

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Speaker 2: it's Nord Jone.

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Speaker 4: Eating a sandwich eating a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my bad, let me get some let me.

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Speaker 2: I thought you was about to do it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, ship, okay, so this is what

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Speaker 4: you meant by doing songs together?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought we explained it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, it's all good. This is this is tight.

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Speaker 4: I just think it was hilarious that you were playing

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Speaker 1: Me and waiting for I was waiting for you, waiting

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Speaker 1: for me. Okay, okay, how how fast do you want to?

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Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, like the original.

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Speaker 4: I've been on a loak. I've been taking my time.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm otter my mind. I feel that

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Speaker 4: my life ain't mine. Who can relate who? I've been

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be alive. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you why.

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Speaker 4: All this other shit I'm talking about they think they

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Speaker 4: know it. I've been praying for somebody to save me,

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Speaker 4: no one to rowick and my life.

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Speaker 2: Don't even matter.

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Speaker 5: I know what, I know what. I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm hurting deep down, but can't show it. I never

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Speaker 2: Where you being? You rat what's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: They see every life precious, but nobody care about mind.

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Speaker 4: I've been on a low. I've been taking my time.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm matter my mind.

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Speaker 2: Life ain't mine. Who can relate?

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Speaker 4: I've been on a low. I've been taking my time.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm matter my mind. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I want you to be alive. I want you to

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Speaker 1: be alive. You don't gotta die today, you don't gotta die.

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Speaker 1: I want you to be alive. I want you to

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Speaker 1: be alive. You don't gotta die to day, And let

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Speaker 1: me tell you why. It's the very first breath when

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Speaker 1: your husband drowning underwater. And it's the lightness in the

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Speaker 1: It's holding on the road. Who is long see alive

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Speaker 1: in the darkest things, when you start at your reflection.

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Speaker 5: Finally knowing who it is.

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Speaker 1: I know you, Thank God, you Dad.

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Speaker 5: I know where you've been, where you are, where you're going.

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Speaker 2: I know you. The reason I believe in life was

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Speaker 2: the day with that a little night.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to shed a little light because it

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Speaker 4: can be hard, it can be so hard, but you

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Speaker 4: got to live right now. You got everything to give

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Speaker 4: right now. And I've been done a low. I've been

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Speaker 4: taking my time. I feel like I'm out of my

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Speaker 2: Who can relate.

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Speaker 1: I've been on a low.

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Speaker 5: I've been taking my time.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm out of my mind.

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Speaker 6: I feel like my life I really want to be alive.

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Speaker 6: If I didn't want to be alive, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to die today. I don't want to die.

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Speaker 1: If I don't want to be alive, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be live. I don't want to die today. I

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Speaker 5: You snapped, that's it. You killed it.

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Speaker 2: And it's khalid. Wow, this is weird. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I referenced Jake Dilla. J Dilla passed away.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was hard. I was practicing that. Her name's Alessia. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's almost like saying very it's almost like she wrapped it. Yes, agreed,

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Speaker 4: But see, that's what's fun. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. Bob Dylan has got the

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Speaker 1: Well, so you just put out your album about two

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Speaker 2: Right, I did. It's my last deaf jam album. So

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Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, because they take care of certain things that

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Speaker 4: And but I'm excited because I'm also older, you know,

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Speaker 1: Isn't that kind of the best feeling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, especially because I spend so much of

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Speaker 1: That's an intense thing. I mean, I think we're all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, artists want to be loved by everybody.

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Speaker 1: But they do. But I feel like your genre is

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Speaker 4: I think it's getting a lot better, and I think

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Speaker 4: I cuss?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hip hop shit?

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Speaker 1: Hip hop shit, But yeah, I did it too.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. Well, I feel like, also, there's this thing

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Speaker 4: but I feel I don't know. Whenever I introduce myself,

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Speaker 1: I definitely think you're a musician. But primarily that's what

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Speaker 2: Like systemically rained in us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what is that to think that it's just like

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Speaker 2: Essentially, it's birth nineteen seventy nine, DJ Cool Orc right,

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Speaker 4: And then DJs began to get these hypemen or these mcs,

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Speaker 2: And then they were really there to hype up the DJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hip hop's beautiful and I really love it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love it too. It's just interesting to me

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Speaker 1: that thing is very specific.

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Speaker 2: Yes to this intense, Yeah, very intense. Everything is intense.

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Speaker 4: You know. I think the way people feel about hip hop,

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Speaker 1: That's like Hollywood. That's some Hollywood shit right there.

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Speaker 2: That's which is like annoying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you took some time off.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: I did because I was like annoyed with the Internet

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Speaker 1: Okay, that whole thing. That's very I think I skipped that.

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Speaker 4: The thing is is I that's that's why I'm even

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Speaker 1: I love that part of your book, which I loved.

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Speaker 1: I loved your book.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, this Bright Future

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Speaker 1: It's really beautiful and I liked I liked understanding that

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Speaker 1: Was it through SoundCloud?

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Speaker 4: Well that was part of it, but it was mainly

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Speaker 4: I mean I do, I do know how I stood

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Speaker 4: and I just kept saying it. I'm still saying, you know, peace,

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Speaker 2: At least try.

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Speaker 1: You're a really good rapper. I mean I was listening

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Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe it, because when I met you

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Speaker 4: And that's the kind of people that I like to

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Speaker 1: It's special to me too. I like, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of people don't and some

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Speaker 1: over what I was and then I realized it doesn't

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00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: matter at all, and it doesn't matter what people see

443
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 1: me as as long as I'm comfortable doing what I

444
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: want to do and being myself.

445
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, preach to the choir.

446
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I feel amazing you've gone through this same kind.

447
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still there though, Like I mean, I'm definitely

448
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: past it, but now it's kind of like I'm in

449
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 4: this like grieving.

450
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: Period in a way, but I don't know how to

451
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: explain it, because I feel happier and better.

452
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it also was just a big part of

453
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 4: my life, like making only rap music and being on

454
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 4: the internet and doing all these things. And it's just different,

455
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 4: but different. It's not bad, and I like it because

456
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: it's different, and I love that me and my buddy six,

457
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 4: you know, because he's like the illus guitar player just

458
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 4: musician in general, but he makes all my beats, like

459
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 4: all my rap beats and stuff. And then we've been

460
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 4: working on all this indie and alternative music and having

461
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 4: fun there as well in that space.

462
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: And that'll open your whole life up to just being

463
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: free and just playing music.

464
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, I always say I say on this

465
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: skit that I have on upcoming out, because I'm like

466
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 4: five albums ahead.

467
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah you're already thinking ahead.

468
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're done. Yeah, that's what's crazy.

469
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like for the most part, And in one of

470
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 4: the skits I'm telling my buddy, I'm like, yeah, man,

471
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to be on stage when I'm fifty

472
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: wrapping like the vein in my foreheads gott to.

473
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: Explode it Like that's a real thing.

474
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Like trying to keep up.

475
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just want to have fun. That doesn't mean

476
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 4: I don't want to wrap, like I'll rap forever. But

477
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: I think this kind of like.

478
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: Hungry starving kid who gets It's like that kid made it.

479
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: And when I say he made it, I mean he

480
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 4: had the family he never did, you know, he made

481
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 4: that and a beautiful baby and a wife and friends

482
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 4: and a family.

483
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: Like that's everything to me.

484
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: You know, I can imagine it is after reading your

485
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: book and understanding where you came from and what you

486
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: went through as a kid.

487
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, parents on smoking, crack and drinking and all that

488
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 4: all the time.

489
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: It's a difficult thing.

490
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I can't even imagine.

491
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: But it shaped me. Yeah, and I wouldn't be here

492
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: without it, you know.

493
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.

494
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: You can't go back, right, And I wouldn't even want

495
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: you though.

496
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: No, of course you wouldn't. All you have to do

497
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: is move forward. That's where I feel like You're positivity

498
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: is always. Really it's really amazing to meet people who

499
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: have that positivity to me, because not everybody really has it,

500
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: And it definitely feels like the people who have it

501
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the most have come the furthest from having it having

502
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: it ingrained in them by others as a child. Does

503
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: that make sense.

504
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 4: What's really weird is I don't even know where it

506
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: came from because I really wasn't surrounded by positivity at all.

507
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: And because of that, it like freaks me out to

508
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: this day because I'm like, I don't know, I'm surrounded

509
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 4: by all this negativity and violence and guns and drugs

510
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: and you know, but.

511
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: Were you always like that positive? Yeah, since you were

512
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: a little kid. Yeah, some people are just born that

513
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: way or is it a reaction of your surroundings.

514
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

515
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll never know, but it's interesting to me.

516
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people have asked like, how did you

517
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: get here? How did you do this?

518
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, I don't know, almost like that

519
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: answer like isn't good enough for them?

520
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's hard to really plot out

521
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: your life in that way and give answers.

522
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here we are anxious.

523
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: Are you anxious?

524
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I'm like, it's I'm excited. What's the what's

525
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: the joint? What's the isn't it piano or I forget? No,

526
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: it's not to figure it out?

527
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you sending that?

528
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

529
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 4: That's something where I was like learning how to have

530
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: fun with my voice?

531
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: I just forget. How does it go? Oh?

532
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: I thought I knew you, babe. I thought I knew

533
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: what this was all about. I don't know if I

534
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: could do it in the key? Play play some ship?

535
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? Is that right?

536
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: Are there any more chords?

537
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: I think it's just that simple.

538
00:25:53,280 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: I thought I knew what this was all about, cause

539
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 4: you don't love me lately?

540
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: Some ship? Let me let me get my lyrics. This

541
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: is this is so fun? Broh like this. Sorry for

542
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 2: all the curse words.

543
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay, yo.

544
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 4: Can I just say I'm just gonna keep it real

545
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: for every man in America out there. I've had a

546
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 4: crush on you since like forever, and I say that

547
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 4: with the utmost love and respect.

548
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: Norah Jones, you're sweet.

549
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, since I was a kid and i'm and

550
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: you're young, what do you like? Forty two, forty three,

551
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: forty three? So it's like, I ain't trying to date you. No,

552
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: I mean no, I mean I'm not trying to date

553
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: your age.

554
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: No, I know you.

555
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: It wouldn't date you.

556
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: We're broken married for a second, I didn't know you even.

557
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: No, I'm not trying to Yeah, yeah, it's not like

558
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: you're old.

559
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: You're not trying to make me feel old.

560
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but when I was, when I was a kid,

561
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh my god, this is like

562
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: an angel. Yeah, your voice and yeah, you've always just

563
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: been such a beautiful human being.

564
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: You're sweet. Words about affirmation is.

565
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: My love language mine to dog and my wife, she's

566
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: she always, she's there for me, which I really love.

567
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: If I can't I think of these these what are

568
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: the lyrics?

569
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 4: This is crazy that I can't find keep playing? Can

570
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 4: you play a little faster? I don't know what I'm

571
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 4: doing I'm just gonna I'm in freestyle because I just

572
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: realized that those lyrics are written written on a page,

573
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to live my life trying to do

574
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 4: your right. I've been thinking about my life like every night,

575
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: you what what really matters to you? I don't know

576
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do, just what I gotta do. They

577
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: call me Bobby B or double B. Why I don't

578
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 4: know logic. I came from MD trying to set them

579
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 4: off free. You'm trying to do me.

580
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: So y'all can do y'all too. I'm trying to do

581
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: me so y'all can do y'all too.

582
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 4: So break it down one time, Hey yo, I said,

583
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: I live better Be. I divided beat since nineteen ninety,

584
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: live better Be, I divided beat like NPC A CA

585
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: who I named William after because.

586
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: I get bills from these beats. Keep the industry, were

587
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: keeping it, keeping it real.

588
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: Of Bennie Streets go a little faster for me, a

589
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: little fastert I actually go crazy fast.

590
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Were keeping it real.

591
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: Little Benny Streets came up in the world That's Office acts,

592
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: so all this promised definite taxes. Don't give a fuck?

593
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: Who be running the fastest. My anxiety make me spin

594
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: it them like a limited I'm stuck in the clinic.

595
00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: Like from the Montgomery.

596
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: You take a step back right now, tell me, boy nuts,

597
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: what your summary. Creeping through fireside, Smash the window with

598
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: that fire ride just to see what we can snatch

599
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: from up inside to the flashing lights.

600
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: Come round that corner.

601
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: Then we run and hide, praying it got up in

602
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 4: heaven and living at night and I got no alibi.

603
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: My damn dip to Stewart Town. That's not come riding

604
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: in these parts.

605
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 4: If you know in town, wonder what my homies from

606
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: back in the day living there are doing. Now, runner

607
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: with my sister Janie, schooling me like mister Feenie. This

608
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: the first time I heard a gunshot on the block.

609
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Go on pain Street.

610
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: This the type of shit. Don't never stop. He'll come

611
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: to cops shooting up the hood like black ops, because

612
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: trigger happy police tend to trigger happy people, and some

613
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: people who believe we not equals shoot up to steep.

614
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: My god, if you exist while you make life so hard,

615
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: If you exist, then where you think is avant garde.

616
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: If you exist, you got a funny way of showing

617
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: it what happens in the after life.

618
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: These people think they know and shit.

619
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: And on that note, I keep a g like track

620
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: four Kicking the Door by Notori gets Big.

621
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: Don't believe me?

622
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: Look that shit up. I promise you'll find the key

623
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: to that punchline. I'm feeling just fine. Let the abyss

624
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: of my mind consume snap my fingers like than on

625
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: Simbobby Boy bringing the doom because I'm six thirty killing shit,

626
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: hands down and dirty. That white boy can't wrap me

627
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: talk good and hat nerdy. I just texted Everko by

628
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: Dude to let him know what I'm gonna do. Sample

629
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: Trene Flower by Tarrika Blue.

630
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: That's cool with you.

631
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine, baby, all grave it as long as

632
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: you know you my baby.

633
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: And that beats your daddy, like if he ever cheat

634
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: on me.

635
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 4: I mean, she don't own his sample, but she might

636
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: as well because her and Diller paved the way.

637
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: For all I've done.

638
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: And well, I'm gonna show my gratitude, no attitude, no

639
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: autotune like te Pain doing unplugged. I'm unplugged like Trinity.

640
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: Wonder how the people gonna remember me? God damn switch

641
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: up the plan.

642
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: We all say it. We all claim it, but it's

643
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: no use.

644
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: The greatest rapper alive is probably stacking produce. Introduce you

645
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: to my train of thought. I'm snapping on the track

646
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: like the illess conductor with no contradiction. I brought my

647
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 4: heart to this table fact and never fiction. Fuck of

648
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: fable ready, And'm willing you better believe it. I'm able

649
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: to spit power through these lines faster than fiber optic cable.

650
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm gone saying, girls saying something to figure it out.

651
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: Listening, that was cool.

652
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: I didn't really add anything singing, but that was that.

653
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Was so pretty.

654
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was so pretty. Yeah, so where

655
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: did that come from?

656
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still hoping I didn't seem like a

657
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: creep by saying I had a question of.

658
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: Time, Okay. I was just like, oh man, I hope

659
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't seem like weirdo.

660
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: You're kidding. I loved it.

661
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: He said, where did that come from?

662
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 5: That?

663
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: Those are already in your mind? Yeah? No, those are

664
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: lyrics to a song that I've done.

665
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: But I was just like, Yo, it's so cool to

666
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: it to hear it like this on the on this thing.

667
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 4: That's why I was like trying to catch up pocket

668
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: because then it turned into what I really like is

669
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: almost like spoken word, so then I was able to

670
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: like you were just playing it, I was rapping. I

671
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: love that I'm with you on wanting to work with

672
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: different people because like, I'm finally gonna meet Seth MacFarlane

673
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: and we're gonna have dinner and I'm really excited.

674
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I just was talking to him really yeah.

675
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah he seems so nice because I did. He has

676
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: a show called The Orville.

677
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that yet, so good.

678
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm obsessed.

679
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Well are you in the Star Trek and all that?

680
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm I'm the biggest nerd ever.

681
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: Because I think that's where that show comes from, is

682
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: his love of all bro.

683
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, if you look at me, I look like

684
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: a gang member with these tattoos, but you look closer,

685
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: it's like the Goonies and Bart Simpson and yeah, it's

686
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: it's pretty crazy. But yeah, so I'm excited to meet

687
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: with him because like low key, I probably shouldn't be

688
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: saying this, but I'm going to put it out in

689
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: the in the ethos because I love is the big

690
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: band shit he does.

691
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: I want to like do a song and like sample him.

692
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a cool idea and then like.

693
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Chop it up and wrap on it. I feel like

694
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: that could be fun.

695
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: He would love that. He's also just really fun to

696
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: hang out with.

697
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: Seems like a nice guy.

698
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: Okay, great guy. All right, I'm sorry, I'm getting very distracted.

699
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: So you're gonna go on tour when? Really quick? Soon?

700
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

701
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm going on tour in like twenty days or is

702
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: it a super long bro? It's insane.

703
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: It's not why takeover, it's.

704
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Not really that long. It's me and Wis Khalifa.

705
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: It's like a co headline tour, but it's like the

706
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: worst dates of all time. It's like five shows in

707
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: a row, six shows in a row, four shows in

708
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: a row.

709
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: Like that's the that's the boundary you have to start,

710
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I know.

711
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: But you all right, let's keep it real.

712
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

713
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: So my manager was like this is gonna be great,

714
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: let's do this blah blah blah.

715
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, amazing. And first of all,

716
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm so hyped to do this tour or else I

717
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. No, you're stuck for it, yeah, one

718
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

719
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: But I didn't realize it was going to be six

720
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: shows in a row, five shows and four shows in

721
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: a row. So I gave my word and was like, hey,

722
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm going to do this, and then I see the dates.

723
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: I can't. Who would I be to back out of

724
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: something like that? That's like would make me. So that's

725
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: I think when it comes to the industry about sometimes

726
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: feeling trapped, at least throughout my twenties because it is

727
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: very different now. But that was one of those things

728
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: where you're not really given all the information or yeah,

729
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: it's wild.

730
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: Well, so I was like that too for a long time,

731
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: and stuff like that would happen, and then I hit

732
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: a breaking point and I was like, I can't. I'm

733
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: done if you want me to. I'm not enjoying music

734
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: right now because of all this BS like you know,

735
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: just too much press, I know, just stuff that wears

736
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: you down. And again, very thankful for everything, not complaining,

737
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: but I did get my breaking point, like I was

738
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: like maybe twenty four, and then I started being very

739
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: controlling and micromanaging everything and making sure that everything was

740
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: exactly how I wanted it, and then it came to

741
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: a point where I was just like, you guys, I'm

742
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: exhausted for thinking about this. You guys, just do right

743
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and don't you know, don't do anything dumb, you know,

744
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: don't do anything that's going to physically burn out your artist,

745
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: because that that's what That's just kind of what happened.

746
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: What year did you put out your first album?

747
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: It was in two thousand and two, so I was

748
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: twenty two.

749
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: Twenty two, and then you and then you swept the Grammys.

750
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the album came out a year before the Grammys,

751
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: so it was like a slow burn and it kept

752
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: getting bigger and bigger, and then the Grammys it was

753
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: just like crazy wow, and then that next That whole

754
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: two year period was just really a lot. But again,

755
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: you're riding the wave and you're excited for everything. You

756
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: say yes to everything until you realize that you don't

757
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: have to.

758
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: Say yes to Yeah. I didn't realize that until later.

759
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: You're talking about twenty four, Like twenty four is when

760
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: my first album came out, So I started saying no

761
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: when I was like twenty nine. Yeah, so I went

762
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: like wild. And then when I had my boy, Oh

763
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 4: that was the easiest thing. I was like fuck off.

764
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Like plus the pandemic kind of fining down.

765
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 4: I'm lucky, very blessed because I had put my foot

766
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 4: down just to I was going to take a year

767
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: off anyway to be with my son, you know, for

768
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: his first words.

769
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: It's first to everything for that first year. And then

770
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: COVID had happened, unfortunately. But I'm just very lucky that

771
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: I planned my yeah kind of hiatus during that time anyway. Yeah, yeah,

772
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: which is wild to think about.

773
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, kids change stuff too, you know. It just makes

774
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: you want to spend your time wisely about it. Well,

775
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: be careful on the road because that's a lot. But

776
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be so fun. I just got off

777
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: of two weeks on the road after not touring since

778
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

779
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: Wow.

780
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I don't party too hard,

781
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: but just the talking. I've talked more in the last

782
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: two weeks than I have in the last two years,

783
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: just hanging out on the bus with my band.

784
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just talking. And how's that on your voice?

785
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: It's horrible, Yeah, but singing isn't a hard ship on

786
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: my voice, it's all the talking.

787
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: Do you warm up? I do?

788
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I forgot you today?

789
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: It's okay, down great? Do you ever do you ever

790
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 4: use that thing that makes you look like Darth Vader.

791
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: I use that thing all the time.

792
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh the steamer. Yeah, oh I haven't needed that for

793
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: a while, but that's a good idea. I should get

794
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: one of those in my case.

795
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just started that on my last tour.

796
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: Would do you do you ever lose your voice when

797
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: you're on tour?

798
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: For sure?

799
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

800
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: Because also I'm like screaming.

801
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very physical what you're doing.

802
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: Yo. Yeah, it's like I'm gonna shown I'm gonna really

803
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: try like the dad bought approach this time, just kind

804
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: of just be like, yeah, motherfuckers sing it.

805
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: No, you can't because you're gonna be into it. You're

806
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna be stoked and give it you're all.

807
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: But I'm having fun. This is cool. Sorry, Sorry listeners

808
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: that I keep going so far away from the mic

809
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: and back back to the mic.

810
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: They don't know.

811
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, once again, you don't have to plan that.

812
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: You can do whatever you want and then I'll just wrap, okay, and.

813
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: Then you can sing some shit too if you want to,

814
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: just be like, yeah, it's Nor Jones, dude. I wish

815
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: I could sing like you.

816
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: Maybe you can, Yeah, I help, my laptop doesn't die, Yo,

817
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: This is a vibe.

818
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: You can't hear this. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, I'll

819
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: just just I'll just do these wraps. Hey, it's charging.

820
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: I've been there.

821
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: If I've done that, done that, This rap shit I

822
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: run that motherfucker is far from a comeback. If one

823
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: of us fought and we run back. Can't let that

824
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: social work and just snatch up my king. Gotta get

825
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 4: my sum back because when they coming through that system,

826
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: don't give a damn about you.

827
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: You everybody gonna die. I'm gonna go one day.

828
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: Maybe, yet it happened on a Monday, dropping to work

829
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: and get hip on your Honday.

830
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: Fucking let it all go one day.

831
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 4: I know I'm gonna get it like this, living that

832
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: life of day y'all running this, never regret it the

833
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: second I said it. I feel like I'm smarter, but

834
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: I read it on ready, You're fucking pathetic, my EEDI

835
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: guet murdered your Reddit.

836
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: Get bitch.

837
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm a head of it.

838
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I'm a diabet I don't wonder why, and

839
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: the hell am I right in the debt of it?

840
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know no life on nerth is so I'm predictable.

841
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, let me say yes, I fatal way.

842
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 5: Fade away.

843
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, tell me what A ready to

844
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: give for a life like this? So I'm in the

845
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: leg quite like this, fuck around. When to fight like this,

846
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: a hight like this, I might just might just I

847
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: don't know. Mention that's my intention wants so much more

848
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: than this third dimension. That's not to mention. My truest

849
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: sension is a bigger picture, no metaphor. I'm being real

850
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: with you, but it will hit you like goddamn. Go

851
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: ahead and follow all of them, stay ship. I'm in

852
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 4: another system, so futuristic on another mission, on another mission,

853
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 4: on another mission is intuition. I got it, and it's

854
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: switching now. It's off the tip, off the top of

855
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 4: that dome. And I'm going home and I'm doing my thing,

856
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: and I'm loving my boy. I'm loving my wife, I'm

857
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 4: loving my life. I'm loving the things that I'm seeing.

858
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do me and being the best that

859
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: I can because I'm the man in this world trying

860
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: to do what I can. So bring it back, bring

861
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: it back, We bring it back, bring it bring it back.

862
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh don't you fa away, fa.

863
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 7: Fa fa.

864
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: This needs to be a real song.

865
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: It is, I know it already is this is crazy? Well?

866
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: Those those are my raps. Loo Okay you want to

867
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: do another one? Yes, I'm gonna save this. Yeah, we

868
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: could do a bunch of these. Let me save this.

869
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: That's what we're recording this.

870
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, dub Bob.

871
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess it up with more lyrics

872
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to say something stupid.

873
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: No, it's all good. But what's really cool though, is

874
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: like we could literally take this demo and then mess

875
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: with it. These drums, though they're great.

876
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm kind of like you. I just want

877
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: to sort of put my my feelers out there. And

878
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: that's why I'm doing this podcast because I just want

879
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: to play with people. That's kind of my my life

880
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: goal now because I don't feel like I have to

881
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: do anything unless I want to.

882
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. Yeah, and.

883
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm at the beginning of that though, I'm like a

884
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: couple of years into it.

885
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: But I mean really like having that self like love

886
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: and also.

887
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: Power to say no because for a long time in

888
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: my career I didn't know how to say no.

889
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's a normal thing when you're young, especially you

890
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: don't want to let people down. You want to let

891
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: people down, but you also you need money for show.

892
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I'm feeling pretty good.

893
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: If you have financial security, you can kind of do

894
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: whatever you want.

895
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: That's true.

896
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: But then the ego gets involved and it becomes a

897
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: thing too.

898
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: That happened, but that's gone.

899
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: Now that's good. So now it's more out of wanting

900
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: to let people down or not let them down.

901
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just I no, I feel free.

902
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: I really do feel free.

903
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Well that's the place you want to be.

904
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 4: Oh, plush spot, plush daddy. Let me have this guy.

905
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: This is my plush daddy.

906
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: What's going on with this?

907
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 2: So this is a this is the Bobby Boy plush toy.

908
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: I love it.

909
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: But and my son saw him and goes daddy daddy,

910
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: and then he looks at me and goes daddy daddy.

911
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, that's plush daddy.

912
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: That's funny.

913
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: So you can call plush daddy plush daddy.

914
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: So he does, and he's been at like all the

915
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: press and different stuff that I've done since I put

916
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 4: out this album.

917
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: There's an other thing too.

918
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 4: It's like this album just releases called vinyl days and

919
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: it's super boombab, like just I don't even like using

920
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 4: that word. It's just like classic hip hop music boombab exactly.

921
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: It's like a tea boom bab is like crazy drums,

922
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: like hip hop drums.

923
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Like.

924
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: But I just feel like that's kind of a bullshit

925
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: term that people in hip hop used to kind of

926
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 4: put it in a box when it's not. But anyway, Yeah,

927
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: it's like, at the place I am in my career,

928
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: I could have made a huge pop album or something,

929
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: but I decided to do that because that's what makes

930
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 4: me happy and that's.

931
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: What I love. You know what I'm saying, as you should.

932
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: Yo.

933
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: I just got these botox injections in my neck because

934
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: I have this. I've been talking about this. I like it.

935
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 4: I'm actually so hype. For like three years, I had

936
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: this thing called a dystonic cervical.

937
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: I don't have a cervix. It's just called cervical. And

938
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: if I did, it's twenty twenty two no yeah, and

939
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: it basically the muscle in my neck like fight each other, wow,

940
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: and it makes my head that go like this. And

941
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: it was so bad, like really like it was like.

942
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: You were shaking. It was bad, like you thought. Did

943
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: you think you had Parkinson's or was it a different thing?

944
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: No, because I knew because I also have like a

945
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: little tremor in my hands, super slight though, so I

946
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: just thought it was that. And then I found out

947
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: that it was this thing which is benign, like because there's.

948
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 4: Nothing so you get botox in it. Kind of yeah,

949
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: but for three years it like I didn't know what

950
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: to do. And then I finally got to botox and

951
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: didn't work. And I did it for a year and

952
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 4: a half and just this month it finally worked.

953
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy.

954
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so hyped to be able to look at

955
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: you and like, this is the first time in my

956
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: life I'm not worried about it when I'm having a conversation. Really,

957
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: and I don't know if you've noticed this, but I do.

958
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: I sit with my arms crossed and I hold my

959
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 4: head a lot.

960
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: That's why even now, because I had to do it.

961
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: It's just your habit.

962
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I don't have to do it anymore, and

963
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: I still do it.

964
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, were you self conscious about it?

965
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: Oh?

966
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 4: Beyond Yeah. I mean it's like for me, that's one

967
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: thing that I've always hated is like having something on

968
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: your mind rather than just being able to do an

969
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: interview or have a conversation.

970
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Really, Yeah, I don't get

971
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: too in my head about stuff.

972
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: But.

973
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like now I'm better.

974
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: But that was a little different, just because I was

975
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: like shaking and.

976
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: Shit, well that's kind of scary.

977
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was never fun.

978
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: I blink my eyes a lot and then I stopped

979
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: caring though I can control it.

980
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 2: But is it a tick.

981
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: It's a total tick, and I've had it my whole life.

982
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: But it comes and goes with stress. And sometimes I

983
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: don't do it at all, and sometimes I do it

984
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: a lot, but I think I just don't care anymore.

985
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: Isn't that cool? It makes you you?

986
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: It does, but it's a little when it's intense, it's

987
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: a little.

988
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: Like, okay, do you do you drink alcohol?

989
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Yes?

990
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: So when you I feel you, I literally smell.

991
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: It off of mean, I had some drinks last night.

992
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: That response is like, I feel it.

993
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Does it go away when you drink?

994
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never thought about that.

995
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: You should check it out.

996
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: That's how I knew my head wasn't essential tremor, because

997
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 4: in a central tremor, a shake, Oh my God goes away.

998
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: When you're like wasted neurologically.

999
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: Sarah, let's have a drink tonight. You can tell me

1000
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 1: if I'm blinking my eyes.

1001
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, get you just have like a gnarly scotch.

1002
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: What do you drink? What do you like to drink?

1003
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: I go back and forth. I like wine, but then

1004
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: it's too like intense, and I like vodka, but then

1005
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to drink too much vodka. I like,

1006
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: I like, I like in my you know, the last

1007
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: few years it's been good to just sort of take

1008
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: it easy and not drink quite as much. I did

1009
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: drink quite a bit in my twenties and thirties.

1010
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: I'm on my I'm at the end of that. Now

1011
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 4: you can't ask my friends. I talk about it all

1012
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 4: the time.

1013
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: End of what.

1014
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't drink so I was about twenty eight,

1015
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: twenty seven. Yeah, okay, So these last four years have

1016
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: been like I've been raging.

1017
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: Does that work out with the baby waking up in

1018
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: the mident?

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: I have a nanny.

1020
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.

1021
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: I sleep through that.

1022
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: Then you can drink.

1023
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding.

1024
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 4: I was there when before we had a nanny, no,

1025
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: and his mom gets up, then nanny doesn't get up.

1026
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 4: But anyway, so now like I'm finding that balance, yeah,

1027
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: because it's.

1028
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: Hard to find it because sometimes I'll drink too much

1029
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: because I know I'm gonna take some time off of drinking,

1030
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: and it's like this whole weird binge purge thing. But

1031
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I really don't have a I don't get

1032
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: super drunk, like I'm done.

1033
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.

1034
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm usually done by seven o'clock. I really like

1035
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: having wine with dinner now and then I'm done and

1036
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: I go to bed early.

1037
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: True.

1038
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but on the road, it's been interesting because I

1039
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: haven't been on the road until long.

1040
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: You get to vibe so fine.

1041
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: I have a drink after the show, but I don't

1042
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: drink during the show anymore. I used to always have

1043
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: a drink during the show, during the show, just to

1044
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: calm my nerves. Not too much, but just a little

1045
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: before and a little on the side during the show.

1046
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: And that's hard. That's a hard balance to follow.

1047
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: That sounds awesome, though, that's like some rat pack at

1048
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: the sands. Shit. Yeah, exactly.

1049
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: If I had to do verses like you do, I

1050
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do it.

1051
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know how.

1052
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 4: I recorded like ninety percent of my last album pretty drunk.

1053
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: Really because I didn't give a shit. I was just

1054
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: having fun. I was like, I'm getting the hell off

1055
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: this this last album. I'm getting off this, I'm getting

1056
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: off deaf jam whatever, here's this album. And it actually

1057
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: turned out to be like one of the illest albums

1058
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: because I.

1059
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: Was free because you were free like that, because I

1060
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: was drunk. No, because I was drunk so kids at home.

1061
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but I like but that's the balance part

1062
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: is like you you like how it frees you up,

1063
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: and that's why I enjoy drinking and singing sometimes or

1064
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: playing around. But it's just you know, then it gets

1065
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: really I get really I sing really out of tune

1066
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: when I'm wasted, So I definitely can't do that anymore. Really, Yeah, why,

1067
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1068
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 2: Maybe you're just not like you're so.

1069
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: Loose it's too loose. Yeah, I'm already loose enough. I

1070
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: feel like I'm pretty.

1071
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 4: I feel like out a Key for You is like

1072
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: the best song I ever sang for me.

1073
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I had this country band for a while called the

1074
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: Little Willies, and we used to play in the bars

1075
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: in New York and it was just we just drank

1076
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: constantly and singing country songs like that was pretty fun.

1077
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

1078
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: But at the end of the night, I would be like,

1079
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: just it was too much. I can't take it anymore.

1080
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't feel good.

1081
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Do you work out?

1082
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: I only started to this year. I try, but I like,

1083
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I like. I work out like a couple times a

1084
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: week with a trainer on FaceTime, which is great. But

1085
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: then the rest of the week I try to hike

1086
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: or yeah, do a sport. That's how I can do it.

1087
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: Do you ever just be so busy?

1088
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 4: Though, Like I feel like in our line of work,

1089
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: and it really isn't an excuse. It's like in between

1090
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: press sessions, recording family like all, it's really hard.

1091
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: It's hard to make time.

1092
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: It's hard to make time, but I feel like it's

1093
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: something you have to book into your schedule and then

1094
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: you will have time for it. But it's annoying, but

1095
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: it's true, Like if you don't plan it as part

1096
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: of your day, yeah, and you don't carve out that

1097
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: little time. I learned that from this guy who taught

1098
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: me meditation. Do you have you ever tried meditation?

1099
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: A little bit?

1100
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: I learned how to do TM, the Transcendental Meditation, and

1101
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: it really helped me a lot because I felt like

1102
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: it was a good way to learn how to meditate

1103
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: without having to worry about anything. It sort of freed

1104
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: me up to just like if thoughts come in, it's

1105
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: not a big deal. That's how it made me feel.

1106
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, he told me that if I don't put

1107
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: it in my schedule every day, I won't do it,

1108
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: and he was right. And I think it's the same

1109
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: thing with exercise.

1110
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: I'll do that.

1111
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Am I preaching now? Am I?

1112
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: No?

1113
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 5: Not at all.

1114
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: It's like it's a refreshing reminder. I went for a

1115
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: little walk with my son today.

1116
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: That's nice.

1117
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: It was like five minutes, but it was because then

1118
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 4: he wanted to go to the elevator because we live

1119
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 4: in this condo.

1120
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh, they love elevators, elevators, elevators.

1121
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: So, Nora Jones, you're biracial.

1122
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, how's that? Let's cut to the chase.

1123
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: I grew up with my mom in Texas and my

1124
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: dad is he died about ten years ago.

1125
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry.

1126
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's things. He was really old and wonderful. He

1127
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: was a brilliant guitar player, as you know. Didn't you

1128
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: send me that record?

1129
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 2: Oh? I know, yeah, Okay.

1130
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I meet who don't know and I'm like, really,

1131
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: like that's like something people know. So, yeah, I grew

1132
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: up with my mom and I didn't grow up around

1133
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: my Indian side at all until I was like eighteen,

1134
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: and then we got really close, which was great, but

1135
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: like I've always felt a little confused about what I am.

1136
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I feel you, yeah, I know you do.

1137
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: So because also I grew up in Texas. Oh and

1138
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: I look Mexican. Yeah, so people would always speak Spanish

1139
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: to me and I couldn't speak Spanish, and then I

1140
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: would feel bad.

1141
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, everybody in my house was black. So

1142
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, this is a joke. But it's

1143
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: like I go to school and you know, it's my

1144
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: first day at school and I see all the black

1145
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: kids and I go hang out with them, and then

1146
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: you just hear, oh, there's a white boy over there,

1147
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 4: let's kick his ass.

1148
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, where's he at? And the next thing I.

1149
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: Know, you know, I'm walking home with a fat lip,

1150
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: and I look at looking at everybody in my family

1151
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: and their complexion. I'm looking at myself like you guys

1152
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: leave me in a house fire or something like what's

1153
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: going on? But being white and black, but looking white

1154
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: and being black is like the weirdest.

1155
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: Thing, well, especially now, and I just feel like it.

1156
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm proud of it, though I know you're proud of it,

1157
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: and as you should be. Who you are is who

1158
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: you are, and it's nobody's business to tell you who

1159
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: you are.

1160
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: But people should tell that wrap.

1161
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: People share as hell want to tell you who you are,

1162
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: especially in the wrap. You know, the world, yeah, the world,

1163
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: but also just the world right now especially Yeah.

1164
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

1165
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 4: I think everybody's got I think a lot of people

1166
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 4: who shouldn't.

1167
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: Really this is weird.

1168
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: But it's like have a voice, if you will. Everyone

1169
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 4: has a voice because of social media.

1170
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: It's too many voices.

1171
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like too many voices. It's just like too.

1172
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Many opinions, and it's like it's like sheeple too.

1173
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: It's like somebody will say something and nobody even can

1174
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: have their own thought, like even with albums, like music

1175
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: has changed so much.

1176
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: It's wild.

1177
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: Well, even music critics, you know, like to a point

1178
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: they'll say something is one thing and then people will

1179
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: just kind of pile on to it. But now everybody's

1180
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: a critic. Yeah, everybody's a critic.

1181
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: It's so true though, because you know what it is.

1182
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: It's like people who used to you know, myself included

1183
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: as a kid my family, like just being at home

1184
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 4: and like watching a movie and be like this guy's

1185
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: ugly and you just like say that out of your

1186
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: mouth because you're just like ten years old or a

1187
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 4: teenager or whatever, or.

1188
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh this show sucks.

1189
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: Now people are tweeting that, yeah, at like the producer

1190
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 4: of the show, Like it's like, oh my god, it's

1191
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: like not even that you're just saying it. You're like

1192
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: intentionally hitting these people up. It's kind of a weird thing.

1193
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a completely totally weird.

1194
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten any hate online?

1195
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: I don't go online. I learned that lesson in like

1196
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Wow, because when my first record

1197
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: came out also, it was it was just a weird thing.

1198
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: My dad being who he was, I got a lot

1199
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: of the daughter.

1200
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: Of Robbie Shunkar don't you hate that.

1201
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: I hated it so much, but not because I hated

1202
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: my dad. Of course, I loved my dad, but because

1203
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: I grew up and became the musician, I was separate

1204
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: from him without even having being close with him until later.

1205
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1206
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: So also, you know, it was just a lot of baggage.

1207
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I just had a lot of baggage with it. And

1208
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: then people were telling me who I was, and I

1209
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's actually an interesting part of my story,

1210
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: but it's not the headline. Yeah, for me and my

1211
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: music at the time, you know. So that's what's weird

1212
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: about it all. But that's just human nature. They like

1213
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: people like to put things in compartments and sound bites.

1214
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 4: You know, I agree, you're cool. You're cool too, I try.

1215
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 2: Gaithersburg is where I first listened to your music.

1216
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: Ever, that's funny.

1217
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like, walk into Starbucks and it's like, hey,

1218
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 2: Noah Jones.

1219
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: I'm the coffee house queen babe. I hated that too,

1220
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: but hey, really, why I think, you know, any any

1221
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: cliche you become is so not what you think of yourself. Yeah,

1222
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: but it's fine. Hey, you know, when I learned did

1223
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: not care about the coffee house music thing when I

1224
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: went into a Starbucks and they were playing Billie Holiday

1225
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, I'm good, I'm in

1226
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: good company.

1227
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: True fine with me. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

1228
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 4: I've actually I forget which album it was I bought

1229
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 4: from a Starbucks.

1230
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: Oh perfect. Yeah, they used to sell albums, which is

1231
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: actually very good for me. Thanks Starbucks.

1232
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: I forget which one. It was a fire one.

1233
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: I think they helped, you know, make that album big

1234
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they were selling CDs.

1235
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 2: Why do we run from things as.

1236
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, it's like, oh no,

1237
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 4: don't put me in this box, even though it's like it's.

1238
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Like where you live.

1239
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I don't know.

1240
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: I think as you get older, it becomes more clear

1241
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: and you embrace certain things. But I think people telling

1242
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: you who you are is really annoying, and that's maybe

1243
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: part of It's.

1244
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: Like I've had fun, like, you know, doing my little

1245
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 4: singing thing and respectfully like yeah, I make jokes and

1246
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: stuff like you're like a legendary musician, like for real,

1247
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 4: like seriously, right, and so no it's true, like you're

1248
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 4: the bomb. So but I know I'll never be able

1249
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: to do what you do, and there was a time

1250
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 4: when I really wanted to be able to do that,

1251
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: you know, and musicians and people like I could never

1252
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: It's just I'm not Freddie Mercury. It's not happening, bro.

1253
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 4: But I am pretty good at rapping. And so when

1254
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: I understand that I could sing and have fun playing

1255
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 4: guitar and do all this other stuff, but to know

1256
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: that my secret weapon is rap, Like when I realized that,

1257
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: I was like wow, because even before I was like

1258
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: kind of singing on your piano a little bit, and

1259
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is fun.

1260
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: This is fun. And then I'm like, all right, fuck that,

1261
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: let's go, and then I rap. It is pretty cool.

1262
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1263
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: So I think it's important for people to know, even

1264
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: just outside of creatives, like whoever you are, Like you

1265
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: don't have to like a TV show just because all

1266
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: your friends like it, or you don't have to be

1267
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: into this band or group or musician just because your

1268
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: parents say so. It's like, it's okay to be you.

1269
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: But I think sometimes we want to fit in or

1270
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: be something else, and I don't know why that is.

1271
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: I think it's just I don't know the way humans work.

1272
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: But that's so spot on what a fire title, the

1273
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: way humans work, let's do it. But that spot on,

1274
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: and I use that word secret weapon a lot. I

1275
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: feel like I have a superpower. Yeah, and it's you know,

1276
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: when I get in my zone of music and singing

1277
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: and playing, but like in the way I do it.

1278
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, for a long time, I just played piano

1279
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: and I would sing. But then I realized when I

1280
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: put them together, people really listened. Oh wow, And I

1281
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: was like, all right, that's my secret secret weapon. I

1282
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: sing along and it's going to be cool. And I'm

1283
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: not like it. I mean, I'm pretty happy with the

1284
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: way I played piano now. But you know, I don't

1285
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: play like Robert Glassbert. You know, I don't have those

1286
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: kind of chops. But I have my own thing and

1287
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I have my own lane, and it's it makes me

1288
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: who I am, and it is important for people to

1289
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: remember that if they're not creatives.

1290
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, for sure. This is so tight. This

1291
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: is cool. I'm so glad that you like, I'm on

1292
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: your show.

1293
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: Me too.

1294
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. You put tetras out a few months back, right, Yeah,

1295
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, who's a badass. I loved it.

1296
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: That so the fun beat. Is the thing of the

1297
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: story about that is there's this Jay Dilla song off

1298
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: his album Welcome to Detroit, and it's called shouts Alt version,

1299
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: so it's like the alternate version of the original, which

1300
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: was over a completely different beat. And I took the

1301
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: beat that he did, and I just I had like.

1302
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 4: A little task AM cassette player four track and an

1303
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 4: SM fifty eight. So for those of you listening, like

1304
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 4: a stage mic, kind of like a classic stage mic

1305
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: that people are singing to and use.

1306
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: And I just wrapped these lyrics. So that's why I

1307
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: say rest in peace, Jay Dillon. I'm like, Jay, you

1308
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: know diyla Beat's got me reckless? Yeah, because I'm rapping

1309
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 2: over at Dila beat. And then like a week later,

1310
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: I decided, oh, we're going to do Vinyl days the

1311
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: album and we did it in twelve days. We did

1312
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: the whole thirty tracks.

1313
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 4: So we did.

1314
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: That, and then that's when I asked six. I was like, yo,

1315
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: can you make drums kind of like these Dila drums?

1316
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: And then I went grabbed a Vinyl, threw it in

1317
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: through my NPC and able to chopped it up and

1318
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: then made the rest of the beat.

1319
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: The instrument disagree. I mean as soon as it starts,

1320
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: I was.

1321
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh, thank you. Did you see the video?

1322
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 5: I didn't.

1323
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: The video is like we shot it for free ninety

1324
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: nine on a GoPro and I'm just.

1325
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: Like, all right, I'm gonna sound boogie here. But like

1326
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 4: when I fly, I don't fly private. Do you fly private?

1327
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm not that rich.

1328
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't fly private. I fly commercial, but I'll

1329
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 4: have like greeters. You know about that.

1330
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you know what's up?

1331
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: I know about the greeterer.

1332
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1333
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: So the greeters picked me up in this Porsche on

1334
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: the tarmac and I'm like, yo, fuck that.

1335
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm shooting this music video real.

1336
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 4: Quick, and I'm just like in the airport like runway, wow,

1337
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 4: just rapping.

1338
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have greeters like that, but I'm gonna

1339
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dial that back.

1340
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got you. I could hook it up. Okay,

1341
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: do you want to sing on this or no?

1342
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what to sing.

1343
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: You could just like sing some dope shit at the end.

1344
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh dope shit. Okay, yeah, I'll do that.

1345
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: So shit, can you play the drums? Bob?

1346
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: And it's okay if I don't. She's the chords and side.

1347
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do whatever you want. I'm just gonna rap.

1348
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna mess this up. Are we on different headphones?

1349
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: Can you turn mine up? So, Kyle, if you could,

1350
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: this is where I have to like rap intensely. So

1351
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be very loud and louder louder, Oh,

1352
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 2: louder louder. Okay, just don't turn it up, don't turn norsm.

1353
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: I listen to music way louder than I should.

1354
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful, I know, but it's inspiring. I know,

1355
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't I listening with music really.

1356
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, you can give a fuck about the metrics.

1357
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 4: Roll up in a beam of belly lexus logic. Stay

1358
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: connected on the block, bitch, I'm tetris. Snatch your necklace.

1359
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 4: De la beat's got me reckless. Even if you're new

1360
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 4: the whole plan coodn't protect this, don't deflect it, you

1361
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: motherfuckers is defective. So get back on that assembly line.

1362
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm schooling these them seas with assembly rohms. I'll be

1363
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 4: goded by the end of my time, more tracks than

1364
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 4: am tracked. By the end of the line. I'm harder

1365
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: to find membland state of minds, from the wounds to

1366
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 4: the pond in my room with a pen and the

1367
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: pad and mad lines like.

1368
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: A theme park.

1369
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: My life was full of action, like when the scenes start,

1370
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 4: think I need the LSU tripping, like when they playing

1371
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 4: the part. You know why I've been killing the game

1372
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: for the start. I'm the reason your kids afraid of

1373
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: the dark. I'll leave you bank rough for real. Can't

1374
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 4: pay your life bill. How you feel stupid? Motherfuck god? Yeah,

1375
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: you gotta deal, but you spent your whole advance on

1376
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: the chain. I invent the mind in crypto and now

1377
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: I'm selling out to Spain.

1378
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 5: Ha.

1379
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: My got three hundred feet.

1380
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 4: Everything that I attained all came from cutting teeth han

1381
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: so flow, I'm so sharp A cut the sheet good

1382
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: grief only undercovering from cutting under sheet. No my host style,

1383
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: check the profile, merried man. I ain't fucking with bitches

1384
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: these whole wild I'm so in it that I'm infinite.

1385
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm so in it that I'm infinite. Yeah, So what's

1386
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 4: the deal?

1387
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 5: Now?

1388
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,479
Speaker 2: You know? We keep it real?

1389
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: Now strapped to the t, I will grab the t. Now,

1390
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 4: what's the deal? Now you know? We keep it real

1391
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 4: now strapped to the t I will grab it still

1392
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: now fuck the metrics roll up in a beam of

1393
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 4: Billy lexus LOGI stay connected on the block, bitch, I'm tetris.

1394
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: Snatch your necklace then labit's got me reckless with suck.

1395
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: Ud It's quick. What's that face?

1396
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 5: He applause? Right now?

1397
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: Love it? Okay, bob yo.

1398
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: This is like Actually, as I'm doing this, I'm like, Yo,

1399
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 4: this is the most gangster shit logic.

1400
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: And Norah Jones like what has happened acoustically?

1401
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: This is so this is like actually really cool. I'm

1402
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 4: so I'm so upset that I wasn't more prepared.

1403
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think it would have been weird to

1404
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: be more prepared for this kind of thing.

1405
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 4: And I'm a sick oh like I if they're oh

1406
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 4: you don't even over prepared, bro, yes, because I'm like

1407
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: a professional, Like there's no way, Like I had one

1408
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: the first show I did in three years was sound

1409
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: some bitcoin festival I did in Florida.

1410
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: And I was headlining, and I was like, oh snap

1411
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: for two months before I literally lightly jogged on my

1412
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: treadmill mid winter in Oregon and just went over lyrics.

1413
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 2: I hadn't like songs, I hadn't even performed in seven

1414
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: or eight years.

1415
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 4: I was like, I want to do the class six

1416
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 4: if you will. From my fans, I.

1417
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: Think they were going to give you bitcoin? Is that

1418
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: why you were?

1419
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: They actually did pay me partially in bitcoin.

1420
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of.

1421
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: Amazing, that's kind of cool.

1422
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm opposite. I'm I think about things a lot, and

1423
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm a procrastinating preparer, if that makes sense.

1424
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: How do you remember your lyrics?

1425
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't, but I don't have nearly as many

1426
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: as you do. Dude, you know sometimes they're just in

1427
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: there somewhere rolling around.

1428
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: That's why I'm happy. What I told you about my in.

1429
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: Ears, So you what do you tell me again?

1430
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: So I have my in ears in and I have

1431
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 4: playback through Ableton. Do you have playback or is everything live?

1432
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: Everything's live?

1433
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: That's so tight.

1434
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: Well, but the music, you know, your type of music,

1435
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: it makes it? Yeah, No, of course mine it kind

1436
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: of does. I know.

1437
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like jealous.

1438
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's why my sense of time is so elastic

1439
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: because I like it like that.

1440
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: That's dope. Yeah.

1441
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: So I use these in ears and I can hear everything.

1442
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: I can hear my microphone. It's just like wearing headphones. Yeah,

1443
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 4: but they're molded literally for like the canal of.

1444
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: Your ear, and.

1445
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 4: The crowd will hear the beat and maybe sometimes some

1446
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 4: background vocals or I'll let the hook kind of you know,

1447
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 4: do its thing through the PA system.

1448
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: But my actual verses I can hear. And the reason

1449
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: I do that is in case I fuck up. Like

1450
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: it's like a good contingency to.

1451
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: Have because there's so many words and it's moving so fast.

1452
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: Otherwise it would be really hard, right Like dude.

1453
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: My song with eminem fuck rap us not like an

1454
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: adequar to semi automatic? Who had it any ready for anybody

1455
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: to buck back, hold catcha vib and when we leave,

1456
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: nobody alive even suicide, no fuck that. Bobby feeling villainousity

1457
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: killing do some come up with your man and his

1458
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: lady and even a baby. I'm feeling like I'm you

1459
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: got to get you get slam shady with babies and

1460
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: film at the mouth. Anybody taking me out, every single

1461
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: rep in an industry, yet they know what I'm about,

1462
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: and I did get to test me how one of

1463
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: you motherfuckers like bro Like it's like exactly no it's insane,

1464
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: but but I love it and it's fun. But I

1465
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 2: think it's good to have that as a contingency because

1466
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 2: I have so many, so many lyrics in my head

1467
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: and I can't place them. That's really it's weird.

1468
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of wild how many words there are

1469
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: to me? To me like that, you just did one

1470
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: whole song of words for me basically in one tiny verse.

1471
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 2: You're crazy, Yeah, but I see, I think.

1472
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 4: And that's why when I've like kind of experimented with

1473
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 4: other genres of music that the less you say, sometimes

1474
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: the more you say with the emotion that's in your voice.

1475
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,959
Speaker 4: Or like these runs, these beautiful runs, I can't.

1476
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: Run like that. You want to hear me run? That's

1477
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: how I sound.

1478
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's like using this your voice, like you

1479
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 4: could not say a word and tell a million stories, dude,

1480
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's crazy.

1481
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:47,879
Speaker 2: You me personally.

1482
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know on the flip and this is

1483
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: just what we were talking about before. Yeah, Like I

1484
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: can't do what you do, and what you do is

1485
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: super special.

1486
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: Mutual appreciation.

1487
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you so much. I'm so.

1488
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: Awesome.

1489
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 4: Yo, fourteen year old me nor Jones just said, you

1490
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: love me, I love you, and and thirty two year

1491
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 4: old of me Norah Jones.

1492
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 2: Said she loved you.

1493
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm just I'm just like so happy we became friends. Yeah,

1494
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,879
Speaker 1: I know, so random.

1495
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: It's you know what, I believe, dude, what I don't

1496
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 2: know why And I don't know.

1497
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to sound weird, like whenever we text

1498
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 4: we talk about family and things like that, I feel like.

1499
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to sound like a creep, like connected

1500
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: to you, like it like like emotion, Like I don't

1501
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: know how to explain. I'm not really into the stars

1502
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: and shit, but I don't know. You have a beautiful spirit.

1503
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: And it's like I'm talking to like I don't know

1504
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: my sister.

1505
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I feel the same way.

1506
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.

1507
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: It was always easy, and I'm so glad we got

1508
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: to finally meet and do this. Shout out Tanner Colby,

1509
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: Tanner Colby, thanks man.

1510
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tanner Colby helped me make my my memoir what

1511
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: it is.

1512
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: And he is the father of one of my son's

1513
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 1: preschool friends.

1514
01:09:59,760 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1515
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: So he's a friend from like a school kid friend parent.

1516
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: What's crazy is he was like he was like, yeah,

1517
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: I know.

1518
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: Uh.

1519
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: He was like you ever heard of Nora Jones. I'm

1520
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: like what He's like, He's like, yeah, kids know each other.

1521
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god. I was like tell her.

1522
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: I said hi, and he was like okay, and I was.

1523
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 4: Like what And then he really did it, and then

1524
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 4: you were like oh yeah, I know okay, and then

1525
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 4: now we're friends.

1526
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool.

1527
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: It was so cool and random. Yeah, well thanks for

1528
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: doing this. Oh is that it? So?

1529
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 2: What I say? Do? I say goodbye to the people listening?

1530
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. We can we can fade it out.

1531
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: Okay.

1532
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: I think we're going to end on you saying that

1533
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: you had a crush on me. Basically, we're just going

1534
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Speaker 1: to replay that part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah a thousand times. Oh my goodness, I'm just playing.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: That was our show. That was Bobby Hall aka Logic.

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Speaker 3: I love that he had no idea what he signed

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Speaker 3: up for and yet he was totally game and was

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Speaker 3: just went with the flow on the spot.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I love that first song we did where he kept

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Speaker 1: waiting to see what was going to happen and I

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Speaker 1: was just waiting for him to sing and he didn't

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Speaker 1: know because I asked him to do it, and he said, yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't even need to know more. I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: do whatever. And I was like, great, that's nice, but

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Speaker 1: don't you want to hear we're actually going to be

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Speaker 1: playing songs. So it was cool he went with it.

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Speaker 1: This is live people, Yeah, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: funnest kind of interaction when somebody's just game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you discover things on the spot because it's

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Speaker 3: not overrehearsed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty that's my thing, as you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a good rehearser And I'm sitting there and

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Speaker 1: he's rapping and it's really fast and intense, and it's

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Speaker 1: just it was kind of electric. I couldn't believe that

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Speaker 1: it was right there next to me, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: It was just I felt like it went both ways too,

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Speaker 3: because for him to hear his music in this different,

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Speaker 3: stripped down way was different, a new experience for him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely a new experience for us both,

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Speaker 1: and I think we both really got into it. That

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Speaker 1: was super fun. Yeah, thanks to Bobby and his whole crew.

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Speaker 1: We had a great time. I'm just playing long Doo

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Speaker 1: Luzy Do Do Do Do Doo.

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Speaker 3: This episode was recorded at Woodshed Recording in Malibu, California,

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Speaker 3: by Bobby Campbell. Mixed by Bobby Campbell.

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Speaker 1: Additional engineering by Greg Tobler and Jamie Landry. Edited by

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Speaker 1: Sarah Oda, artwork by Eliza Frye, photography by Shervan Linez,

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Speaker 1: and produced by Me and my olda