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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast deserves a long term contract

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Speaker 1: extension by training. Welcome back to another decid of the

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Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Kevin Patra, and Greg Rosenthal. What up boys?

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Speaker 1: So excited to have Kevin Patrick back in the studio

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Speaker 1: with us. It just feels right here again. You'll save

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Speaker 1: the day. You'll notice that I went around the table,

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Speaker 1: but I skipped over Greg temporarily temporarily went to patch

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Speaker 1: them back to Greg because we're back to regular sitcom

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Speaker 1: rules where the guy that gets put in his writer.

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Speaker 1: I need to be the last one, said Greg. It's

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Speaker 1: in his contract needs to be said last, like and

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm the John Slattery of this show. That

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Speaker 1: is painstaking. The high maintenance on the part of the bus. Well, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you gotta answer to that high maintenance. I'm not high maintenance.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm low means. Well can a boss even

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Speaker 1: be high menians? I don't know, not you. I think

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Speaker 1: Sessler's I mean mentioned it last show. This is Dan's

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Speaker 1: little Wait a minute, back the truck up. Greg, you

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Speaker 1: just said that that edict was etched into your contract now.

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Speaker 1: No one else pushed for that, so it was you.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm only high maintenance in the commissary.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, by the way, but Greg, you

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Speaker 1: can pat yourself on the back for being great, as

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Speaker 1: can everyone else in this room right now, because we've

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Speaker 1: been together as a group the Around the League podcast

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Speaker 1: for one year. Yeah, yeah, go for it. I can

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Speaker 1: safely say that I've spent more time with the cast

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Speaker 1: of this show than my own children. Yes, and you

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Speaker 1: are a better man for it, well, interactional, let me

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Speaker 1: let me rephrase, you're a better employee for it. A

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Speaker 1: worse man for you? Are? You know? That will be

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Speaker 1: fine from you, t D. We have a bone to

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Speaker 1: pick with you. Let's be honest. We don't really have

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Speaker 1: our stuff together. We would not even have known this

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Speaker 1: was our one year anniversary if not for a great

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Speaker 1: Twitter father, Dale. His name is Dale, and he wrote

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Speaker 1: us a very nice note um, you know, expressing how

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Speaker 1: much he likes the show and he's been a listener

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Speaker 1: since it started. And so we want to thank hearty

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Speaker 1: thanks to all the listeners who have listened to us

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Speaker 1: and you know, kept in touch with us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and have liked us on iTunes and helped us want

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Speaker 1: a stitcher? What is the stitcher? I don't know where's that?

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Speaker 1: Where's that award? By the way, t D, we never

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Speaker 1: got it. I need to full up the stitcher. Let's

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Speaker 1: just do that. I'll full up the stitcher and make

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Speaker 1: sure we get their word. Because physical the physical award,

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Speaker 1: because DDFP won the award the year before. So there's

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Speaker 1: two year running, two years running now where NFL podcast

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Speaker 1: dominate Stitcher. Something we could put on a table or

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Speaker 1: our desk if we have something physical to celebrate it. Joe,

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Speaker 1: what kind of journey has your career taken? A year ago?

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Speaker 1: At this time, you were just coming off an assignment

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Speaker 1: be a writer, join around the league. I mean, talk

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Speaker 1: about shooting pitch yourself. This is It's been crazy. It's

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Speaker 1: been crazy, a lot of work, but I think you

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Speaker 1: guys are one of the funnest groups I've worked with,

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the funnest I was gone.

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Speaker 1: like the bronze medalists of fun groups for Kevin Patricks,

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Speaker 1: like the four older brothers I've never had. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: that we'll take. That's it's a Westling type viewpoint. I

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Speaker 1: like that because he has a lot of brothers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and West. Congratulations to West as well for being a

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Speaker 1: He was on his circular waterbed with the leopard print passed.

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Speaker 1: After that phone call yesterday, he fell asleep, immediately woke up,

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Speaker 1: did some more high octane content. We miss us come home,

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Speaker 1: so because we're gonna keep some slandering you until you return. Alright, So,

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Speaker 1: great show today, Great shows. We begin year two of

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Speaker 1: the Around the League podcast. Uh, we have the NFC

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Speaker 1: Got it, bang, home run. Yeah, and we'll also hit

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Speaker 1: was Tyreese. That was Tyree and that was an excellent film.

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Speaker 1: It was a good movie. Mark wants has a bit

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Speaker 1: of a bone to pick with you. Well, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I understand number one that you are. You're a producer

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Speaker 1: Twitter and I see you shoot out this Batman related image,

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Speaker 1: delayed by you know, roughly half an hour. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: eyes are always open. We're always plugged in on social media.

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Speaker 1: let's do some news. Why not us? Why not us?

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Speaker 1: You're clearly more talented. Brian hoyerre you just saying be ready?

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Speaker 1: But is he right now? Are we burying the lead

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Speaker 1: in all this? That just a minute ago on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patra made a master p make him say a

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Speaker 1: reference I did. Did everyone see that? We certainly bury

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Speaker 1: the lead? Is how I is beside himself with joy

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Speaker 1: I am not because Patrick dropped that reference, but because

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Speaker 1: Greg picked it up, by the way, I picked it

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Speaker 1: up to get the no limit soldiers going in the

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Speaker 1: dance like I got pouference the thing old man Cecily

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what we're talking about. I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: I don't need to know, Master Petton, you mean I

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Speaker 1: could not be more impressed than Greg's knowledge of the

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Speaker 1: hip hop world from a yeah right now, by the way,

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Speaker 1: on our last show, I threw it out there to

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Speaker 1: the audience to the listeners. The first listener who correctly

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Speaker 1: identified the name of the perfume that Grace Jones was

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Speaker 1: hawking in Boomerang two Eddie Murphy vehicle would be the

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Speaker 1: recipient of Brenda Warner's biography called One Call Away, Answering

446
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Speaker 1: life's challenges Unshakable Faith, And the answer to that question

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Speaker 1: was stinks so good. Strong, It stinks so good. And

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Speaker 1: of course I don't even know. I'll throw it out

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Speaker 1: to you guys, because I got a feeling you're gonna

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Speaker 1: guess who was the a t L listener that got

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Speaker 1: this correct. Well, you threw this out in the newsroom earlier.

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Speaker 1: Welcome the show business. We guess trist And we got

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Speaker 1: it right back then, So I got it right again. Yes, Tristan,

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Speaker 1: the great loyal listener from Australia, gotta correct. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure you're a great guy. NFL Media newsroom, I mean

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Speaker 1: the NFL Media mail room. I don't know if they're

457
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Speaker 1: gonna send this book to Australia. We'll have to talk.

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Speaker 1: And because like Greig my boss, that I also am

459
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Speaker 1: all about honesty, I am going to let the listeners

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Speaker 1: on that Dan is entirely scared by the Australian mail

461
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Speaker 1: raids and it's nothing to do with Kristen. Just be

462
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Speaker 1: aware that if the mail room shoots me down. I

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Speaker 1: will not be sending this on my own time, trist

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Speaker 1: and obviously got a job, you job lately and now

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Speaker 1: he wins the book. There you go and a quick

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Speaker 1: call back. That's the reason I had time to tweet

467
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Speaker 1: about bat flick because I was downloading that dry well,

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Speaker 1: all right, it seems took you a while to cook

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Speaker 1: up a reason there like a good fifteen minutes. By

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Speaker 1: the way, if you're at the Barnes and Noble in

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica tonight, by any chance, Mark Sessler is doing

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Speaker 1: a reading of Brendan Warner's biography excuse me memoir from

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Speaker 1: six to nine pm. That's reading. Let's get in depth

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Speaker 1: of it, all right. Let's move on to the uh

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Speaker 1: finale of our NFC Training Camp preview, and we will

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Speaker 1: begin with the NFC north um, Greg, you are the boss.

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Speaker 1: You contractually in the back end of the language of

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Speaker 1: your contract that says you need to be announced last

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Speaker 1: in the intro. So I'll throw it to you since

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Speaker 1: I wrote the piece on NFL dot com slash Training

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Speaker 1: Camp Preview, why don't you team me up and I'll,

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Speaker 1: you know, throw a couple of things at you. Ask

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Speaker 1: me a question. Packers what are you looking for in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay on the offensive side? Wow, a little arm

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Speaker 1: motioning by you there, it's intimidating to me. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm looking for now. I'll start

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Speaker 1: with I want to see, uh or I want to

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Speaker 1: hear and read about Julius Peppers. How he's looking in camp.

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Speaker 1: A thirty four year old player that had some big seasons,

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Speaker 1: as Kevin Patrick knows, in Carolina and then Chicago. Now

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Speaker 1: they're pairing him up with Clay Matthews. Open the you know,

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Speaker 1: visions of sacks together and what that could mean for

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Speaker 1: their pass rush. I want to see how that looks.

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Speaker 1: He also want to watch for Clay Matthews, how that

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Speaker 1: thumbs looking. Is he able to practice it full or

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Speaker 1: they still worried about it. They believe that they finally

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Speaker 1: rectified that issue after he broke it twice last season.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, Matt Matthews, we forget about it now

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Speaker 1: because he had such a kind of tough go of

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Speaker 1: it last year. A lot of people picked him Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Kennedy, he can still be that guy.

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Speaker 1: That is an intriguing pairing to me, and Dom Caper's

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Speaker 1: is kind of twisting around what they're doing less and

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Speaker 1: more at the same time getting rid of some formations

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Speaker 1: but doing a little bit more differently with those formations.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see how Peppers has

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Speaker 1: used how much he actually drops back, which given his

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Speaker 1: age you wouldn't think too much, but how much in

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Speaker 1: that quote unquote elephant role they have him in that

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting to watch. I think they're excited

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Speaker 1: about Dayton Jones on the line. They've got a lot

512
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Speaker 1: of guys coming back and it's nice to have in

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Speaker 1: theory Peppers across from Clay Matthews to free up some

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Speaker 1: of that double teaming. They want to get thirty sacks together.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if they even can combine to

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Speaker 1: play thirty games. I'm not sure on well, no, they

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Speaker 1: each play sixteen. That's thirty two. Well, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see that happen. Didn't really go out on a huge

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Speaker 1: one there, well, because frankly, Clay Matthews hasn't done that,

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Speaker 1: and that's big, a huge issue for the Packers. You

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Speaker 1: said people predicted he would win Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: I think I was one of those people. You're right,

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Speaker 1: he has not been talked about much, and their defense

524
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Speaker 1: is completely different with them, and their offense is different

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Speaker 1: with Jamaicae. Phil. Do we think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: back on this team by the start of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's with each day that passes, it seems like that's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the case, or it's increasingly possible

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Speaker 1: that he's not going to get clearance. There's an interesting

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Speaker 1: battle there because if he's not there, it's pretty wide

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Speaker 1: open right now. Who gets that job? The starting job anyway.

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Speaker 1: The guy gets to look for is a rookie Richard Rogers.

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Speaker 1: I believe he was a third round pick. Um looked

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Speaker 1: really good in their offseason program. The other guy, I

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Speaker 1: guess his primary competitor is Andrew corliss. I did get

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Speaker 1: some tweets from Packers fans um that the undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent uh coult Liarla is a guy to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on two and and Dan. If you uh, if

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Speaker 1: you actually monitored our website around the league, we have

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Speaker 1: written two or three huge posts about cult where they

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Speaker 1: talk about him as a Gronkowski type talent. Well, I

542
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Speaker 1: don't always buy into hype blindly like some people. This

543
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Speaker 1: is coming from NFC scouts from other scouts. Everyone just

544
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Speaker 1: looks you gotta follow your own are off the field concerned,

545
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Speaker 1: but they don't need Finley. He's not the only answer

546
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Speaker 1: that he would have been a high, high draft pick

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Speaker 1: if he hadn't gotten booted. So if he can his um,

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Speaker 1: you know, addictions are in the past, and he could

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Speaker 1: be if the team, If the team, Mick McCarthy, you

550
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Speaker 1: talking about trusting him? Can we trust him? If that

551
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: he can prove that? Mark, do you have something to

552
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: say to me, because say it right now. I would

553
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Speaker 1: like you to read our work on the website. I know,

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Speaker 1: not your work. I just hope Dan could do the

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Speaker 1: rest of the show after this Bunsen Burner blowtorching. I know,

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Speaker 1: well agro cessler out of control today, not at all. No,

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Speaker 1: I think they have an interesting Dan. You wrote about

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Speaker 1: the Bears and what you're looking for. Could it possibly

559
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Speaker 1: be true that one of those things is a man

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Speaker 1: named Ego Ferguson. What are you looking for out of

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Speaker 1: Ego Ferguson in August? All right, First off, that Bears

562
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Speaker 1: nailed it. Second of all, Ego Ferguson second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind what was going on with Chicago's rush defense.

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Speaker 1: Last year league wors one and sixty one point four

565
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Speaker 1: yards per game on the ground. Ferguson is brought in.

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Speaker 1: An ego is an awesome name. By the way he's

567
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Speaker 1: brought it. He asked, naturally has to bring it an ego.

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00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: They bring him in. He's not gonna be somebody that

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Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback. He's not that type of guy.

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Speaker 1: But he is somebody that is known for an ability

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Speaker 1: to stop to run. They desperately need a lane clogger

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Speaker 1: type guy, and they're counting on Ego to have an

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Speaker 1: immediate role and bring that ego. So how are you

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Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna be tracking him during the preseason watching?

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Speaker 1: That's my plan personally, I was gonna I was gonna

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Speaker 1: take a bunch of personal days during training camp to

577
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Speaker 1: stay at home and watch a lot of practice. Really,

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00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: you do have you know? An addition to the hands

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Speaker 1: is family and you like that name, ego. It's not

580
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Speaker 1: too late, ego hands. Could your ego handle it? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I like it. I like the idea of

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Speaker 1: all of it. What about a little backup quarterback battle?

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Speaker 1: We talked to We talked about it, and Kevin Patrick

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Speaker 1: uh looked into his crystal ball and got his first

585
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Speaker 1: settler of his life, and of course Kyle Orton potentially

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Speaker 1: during the mix. That makes a lot of sense because

587
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Clawson versus Jordan Palmer is basically the most unimpressive

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Speaker 1: camp battle that's going right now in my opinion. And

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Speaker 1: it's funny how quickly the Bears forget what happened in

590
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Speaker 1: their past. You'll go way back in the time machine.

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Speaker 1: Another j Cutler injury, where they went and they got

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Speaker 1: Jason Campbell, thinking they gave him three million guaranteed to

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Speaker 1: solve that problem. It didn't work out, but they were

594
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Speaker 1: thinking that way, we can't leave ourselves vulnerable. Then they

595
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Speaker 1: went out and got Josh McCown and that worked out beautifully,

596
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Speaker 1: of course, But this year they seemed to think, again, oh,

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Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, he'll play sixteen games. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: worry too much about this. Definitely to pick someone up

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Speaker 1: later in the summer. But you know, I was a

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Speaker 1: summer ago when all of us looked at Josh McCown

601
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Speaker 1: and thought, are you kidding me? This guy is a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: And if if, if, if mcculor goes down there a

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Speaker 1: ship adrift and he came in and blew the doors off.

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Speaker 1: I think part of it is that Trustman is an

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Speaker 1: amazing coach. They've got to see something in the guys

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Speaker 1: have but Orton, who are someone else out there? Is

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Speaker 1: a good target for the Bears. If if he makes

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Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer into a decent starting quarterback, should he need

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Speaker 1: to play? Mark Tressman has a head coaching job for

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Speaker 1: life in the NFL. Don't you think how valuable would

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Speaker 1: that be? Whisper? It's a big ask. One thing that

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Speaker 1: in Chicago I want to look at is the secondary,

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Speaker 1: of the deep secondary of the safeties. Look listen to

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Speaker 1: their group. M D Jennings, Danny McCrae, Adrian Wilson, Ryan Monday.

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Speaker 1: I mean Wilson was brought in his flyer and then

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Speaker 1: Rookie brock Fareen. That is not a group you want

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Speaker 1: when you have you're going up against Aaron Rodgers, Calvin

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Speaker 1: Johnson and uh and then Cordarrel Patterson and Greg Jennings.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about not that's not going to be good.

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Speaker 1: If that was, If they can't solidify that group, well

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Speaker 1: let's talk about your lions. About them, I mean, got

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Speaker 1: Lovardi offensive coordinator in we don't really know much about him.

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Speaker 1: How is this all gonna work? Have a Matthew Stafford

624
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Speaker 1: underwhelmed less season. We know it put up some numbers

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Speaker 1: that you can get behind a guest, but as a player,

626
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Speaker 1: a lot of matt reaction from people around the league.

627
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Speaker 1: I'm also seeing a lot of quarterback rankings where he's

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Speaker 1: listed like right at sixteen. He's It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: he's become a guy that people can't figure out anymore.

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Speaker 1: So this seems like the perfect time for a new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with a new viewpoint on how he can

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Speaker 1: be used. We're hearing that Joe Lombardi, the new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: is gonna give him more autonomy at the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage to call out plays. Uh. You know, and I

635
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Speaker 1: wrote my piece that maybe this is the kick in

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Speaker 1: the pants he needs to take his game up and

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Speaker 1: notch and develop more consistency. That's absolutely has been the

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Speaker 1: off season. We've said it constantly offseason of Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: One one piece of the Lins offense that I'm really

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Speaker 1: kind of intrigued to seeing pads is theoretic Because NFL

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Speaker 1: Media's Daniel Daniel hand uh I just got you on

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Speaker 1: the brain like that. Daniel Jeremiah kicked it off the time.

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Speaker 1: Everyone everyone's good luck getting a pointed, I know. And

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Speaker 1: now everyone keeps talking about theoretic. The Lions offensive players

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Speaker 1: have him going to the Pro Bowl. He had like

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Speaker 1: seventeen touches last year, so I really want to see

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Speaker 1: is he really going to be used utilized a lot?

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Speaker 1: They already have Reggie Bush, they already already have Joint Bell,

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Speaker 1: So I really like would like to see if this

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Speaker 1: nonpads hype can come to fruition. And the in the

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Speaker 1: roadmap is what where he came from in New Orleans

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Speaker 1: where they were able to use. It's gonna drive fantasy

653
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Speaker 1: players utterly nuts, but they're gonna use all the running

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Speaker 1: backs in different ways. And you know Stafford under Jim Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: when they'd ask him, what can this guy to do? Improve? Oh? No,

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Speaker 1: Stafford's fine. It's mechanics are fine. I think for Alliance

657
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Speaker 1: family like yourself. It's frustrating that because Caldwell came in

658
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Speaker 1: and he said, you know, we're gonna hold this guy

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Speaker 1: to the fire. They actually have some people that are

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Speaker 1: looking at Stafford's play. That's hopeful but there's a reason

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Speaker 1: that Stafford sitting down there at sixteen. There's a couple

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Speaker 1: of games last year that we're a disaster. Has it

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Speaker 1: been an underplayed story that Vince Lombardi's freaking grandson is

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Speaker 1: running an NFL offense? I mean, we all know that's fact,

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Speaker 1: But doesn't that seem amazing from what we understand? What

666
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Speaker 1: if LOMBARTI what if Vince Lombardi never really died and

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Speaker 1: he's helping to coach this team a pass heavy offense.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying again, maybe they'll break out, you know,

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Speaker 1: the sweep, and they'll change the whole. Here's the Alreddick

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Speaker 1: on the on the Packers sweep. Here's the here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: A great champion, Vince Lombardi was defeated by father Tom Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: easydund Teddy Bridgewater, Matt Castle Vikings quarterbacks. What do we think?

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Speaker 1: Do we actually think my boy Matt Castle is going

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Speaker 1: to be the Week one starter here? It looks like it.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he's going to have the first shot

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Speaker 1: at the job. I think the reason why Minnesota brought

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Speaker 1: in Matt Castle or resigned him was because they knew

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Speaker 1: they were going to take a quarterback, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to be boxed in where they felt like they

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Speaker 1: needed to start that rookie because, let's face it typically

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Speaker 1: does not end well list you have a real stud

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Speaker 1: behind center that's a can't miss guy. So Castle makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense as a guy that can come

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Speaker 1: in and kind of hold the fort, teach Bridgewater some

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Speaker 1: of what he knows. He's been around a long time,

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Speaker 1: he played with Tom Brady, He's won some games in

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Speaker 1: this league, been to the playoffs, and then eventually you're

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Speaker 1: gonna move Bridgewater in. It seems like something teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL have gotten away from in recent years, but

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, it it makes a lot of sense. Well,

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Speaker 1: you look back through time before the last decade and

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks were given plenty of time to grow and learn

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Speaker 1: the NFL system. And the biggest positive I think for

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater and Castle frankly too, is Norv Turner. You know,

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Speaker 1: look at what they did last year in Cleveland in

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Speaker 1: terms of Jordan Cameron, Josh Gordon, and a couple other

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Speaker 1: guys with the terrible group of quarterbacks, Minnesota has a

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Speaker 1: much better group than Cleveland head I think, I think

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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridge row just started from day one. I mean

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Speaker 1: you had North Turner say the other day he thought

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Speaker 1: he should have been a top ten quarterback taken in

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Speaker 1: the draft. He has the arm strength, according to Turner,

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Speaker 1: to to run his system. They can go on a

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Speaker 1: run heavy offense. I think that Teddy is your most

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Speaker 1: talented quarterback. Put him in there and let him play.

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Speaker 1: It's not a terrible offensive line that he has to

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Speaker 1: play behind. And by the way, Christian Ponder is still

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Speaker 1: on this team, apparently kind of in a weird, weird place.

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Speaker 1: You don't usually see this situation rise, but he was

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Speaker 1: the former guy that was the future is as recently

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Speaker 1: as twelve months ago. Now he's he's lingering, he's on

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Speaker 1: the roster's the third string guy. You wonder if he'll

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Speaker 1: be on the team at some point. Maybe he makes

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Speaker 1: sense on the Chicago Bears the Bears were the Bills,

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Speaker 1: or he's he's a he'd be a good backup. But

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he's on the Vikings come week one. Myself,

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater is the one guy every year I let myself

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Speaker 1: get sucked into one offseason hype guy. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's that's Bridgewater is my guy this year for that

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Speaker 1: that I actually am buying and now I'm going to

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Speaker 1: pass it back to me like I was uncomfortable with

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Speaker 1: all this these questions being asked. And I think that, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you deserve a round of applause for the way you

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Speaker 1: set me up there t D playing with his iPhone

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Speaker 1: and now he's on He's back in NFC South training

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Speaker 1: camp preview. Greg Rosenhal wrote it on our website. So

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Speaker 1: why don't we start with the Atlanta Falcons? Of course

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Speaker 1: four and twelve last year very difficult season for Mike

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Speaker 1: Smith and company. Now they have a whole training camp

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Speaker 1: to get things going on the right track. And what

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Speaker 1: are you seeing, Greg, Yeah, the thing I'm watching is

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones foot. He's had two similar surgeries serious on

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Speaker 1: the same foot. He hasn't been practicing fully all off season.

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Speaker 1: He says. The old Julio is back. They're gonna be

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Speaker 1: as careful with him as possible. For the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think their offense and their defense don't don't have big,

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Speaker 1: big questions in terms of great battles. But that's the

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Speaker 1: thing you just want to see if he's healthy. I

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Speaker 1: get a little nervous about this foot injury because he's

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Speaker 1: he's been dealing with with it for a while and

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Speaker 1: he we there was a report this month that he

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Speaker 1: had a cutting edge surgery the technology because where the

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Speaker 1: break is there's less blood flow, so it's it's naturally

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Speaker 1: vulnerable to re injury. So yeah, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: can be sure that he's back to the old Julio

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Speaker 1: until we see him for sixteen weeks proved that he

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy. It doesn't sound fun. I mean, Damna

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Speaker 1: Check talks about Jenga pieces, and I'm not sure this

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Speaker 1: would be the case for Julio Jones on some of

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Speaker 1: the other teams around the league. But is he that

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Speaker 1: for Atlanta Because when he wasn't in the lineup last year,

752
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan still well, they're still throwing free yardage, but

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Speaker 1: they're not winning. I think Ryan would be more of

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Speaker 1: a Jenda piece because they don't have anything behind him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The line was terrible last year and

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Speaker 1: they need the offense to win them games. This is

757
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Speaker 1: not going to be a team that wins games seventeen,

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Speaker 1: fourteen or seventeen. They need to throw for a lot

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Speaker 1: of arts. They need their fourth round pick at running

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Speaker 1: back Devanti Freeman to be a factor. That'll be a

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Speaker 1: good battle with Steven Jackson, J Quiz Roger. If this

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Speaker 1: team has any chance to bounce back like we talked about,

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Speaker 1: I think it's by being a top five six offense

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Speaker 1: and they have a chance. Well, what was their whole

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Speaker 1: offseason about getting tougher in the trenches? Did they We

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Speaker 1: don't know yet because nobody's been in pads yet. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a huge thing to watch. I have a

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Speaker 1: bit of a sessler that Devanta Freeman it will be

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Speaker 1: the only remember that backfield back next year. Stephen jack

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Speaker 1: Jackson jack queezed Rogers. I don't think that's a great

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Speaker 1: set up right there, and they're gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: some work as time progressive. That's a tough fall for Rogers.

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Speaker 1: After appearing with Rich Eyesen in a some ad for

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Speaker 1: a hotel chain, listen, he hit his apex. Let's hope

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Speaker 1: you're right about this, Mark. I believe he was a

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Speaker 1: fact check. No. TD is giving me the nod, and

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Speaker 1: that tells me that it's rock solid home run. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on to the Carolina Panthers, and everybody wants to

779
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Speaker 1: talk about the wide receiver situation, so Greg, we can't

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Speaker 1: ignore it. We're gonna have to learn who's going to

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Speaker 1: be fitting into these spots. Correct, Yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's just get the giggles. What's up. I thought that

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Speaker 1: was an excellent way to get into this topic. Fine job.

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Speaker 1: You know it's good because I feel like you've been

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Speaker 1: a little hard on me during I was throwing you

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Speaker 1: into the fire for a Packers tight end report. We're back.

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Speaker 1: We're friends. Let go like Kevin and t D and

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Speaker 1: I are here just watching Mark. You're my friend, no

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Speaker 1: matter what happens in session. Like couples therapy, I love you. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Back to the situation Underwood. That guy hasn't have very

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Speaker 1: good right, Um. Yeah, They're receivers are terrible. It's not

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Speaker 1: even really a battle. It's kind of a battle against

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Speaker 1: being a punchline. Because Jericho contri has to be getting snaps.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the number one receiver, but

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Speaker 1: he has to. Kelvin Benjamin has to be playing for them,

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Speaker 1: even though he's a rookie's the first round pick. They

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Speaker 1: have to put him on the field. They have no

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Speaker 1: other options. I guess camp will be to figure out

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Speaker 1: whether it's Underwood or Jason Navan or Kiawa Polaris or whoever,

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Speaker 1: this is a team to definitely watch make a trade

801
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Speaker 1: or pick up some guys off of waivers in free agency,

802
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: like Benjamin's really interesting from what we're reading. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, like in all these offseason practices where

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Speaker 1: they're they're just running by guys and being untouched, no

805
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: position group seems more overrated or prone to hype than

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Good news we have about Cam Newton,

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: we just got it on Wednesday or Thursday actually, that

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Speaker 1: he's a full go for training camp. Greg you wrote

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Speaker 1: about it um earlier this week that we almost assume

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Speaker 1: that he'll be fine because he's built like Superman and

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Speaker 1: it seems like he'll never miss a game. But I

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Speaker 1: guess it's something to keep an eye on how he's moving.

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Speaker 1: That was a major ankle surgery there, which we just

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Speaker 1: assume these guys are going to come back. It was

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Speaker 1: superman a four months, you know, recovery from ankle surgery

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Speaker 1: for a guy that relies on his movement skills more

817
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Speaker 1: than any quarterback in the league, who is more valuable

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Speaker 1: running than Cam Newton, you know, luck Is in the discussion,

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Speaker 1: Kaepernicks in the discussion, and they might need Newton to

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Speaker 1: run more than ever. So that's a big factor if

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Speaker 1: he he's limited in any way. Is there any part

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Speaker 1: of that offense that there isn't a question mark on

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Speaker 1: to new offensive lignement left tackles new uh A. Steward

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Speaker 1: is now injured we learned Thursday, little hamstring, which is

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Speaker 1: always the case with him being hurt. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's every level of that offense, there's big, big questions.

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Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints, of course, did some nice upgrade

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Speaker 1: work on their secondary uh signed up Jaris Birds fired

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Speaker 1: and Champ Bailey old man Bailey from Denver. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: now you have those two guys in the mix. This

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Speaker 1: could have the potential to make all the difference in

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Speaker 1: Rob Bryan's defense. Your thoughts. Greg Bailey's thirty six years

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Speaker 1: old and Bird at back surgery. So that's it's a

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Speaker 1: big August. You gotta stay help by Bailey has been

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Speaker 1: struggling with injuries. Yeah, the Broncos didn't want him, and

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Speaker 1: Bird is another guy that man This surgery flew under

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Speaker 1: the radar. If he had had back surgery in February,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have gotten half the money he got from

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Speaker 1: the Saints. So look, maybe he's gonna come back and

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine. But if I'm a Saints fan, that's

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Speaker 1: the number one thing I'm watching, whether he's going to

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Speaker 1: be ready for the season. This is a super Bowl team,

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Speaker 1: and I think that bird is gonna be okay in time.

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Speaker 1: This this what they've done team. When we come out

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Speaker 1: with our official predictions the Saints, you've already just this

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Speaker 1: is my team. And I'll tell you why because in

847
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Speaker 1: two seasons. Last year he had the Cojones Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: to go out getting rob Ryan. It is a part

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Speaker 1: of the male body that suggest this. He would suggest

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Speaker 1: courage in this instance. Um he uh. I love what

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Speaker 1: they did on defense over the last two seasons, and

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Speaker 1: he's quietly revamped this offense to make it tougher, but

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Speaker 1: they're also faster. I there's not a part of this

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Speaker 1: team that hasn't gotten better over the last two years.

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Speaker 1: And what about the backfield, Greg, what do you think

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Speaker 1: about that running back group? Yeah, the big battles Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Robinson and Mike mark Ingram. I mean, we know Pierre

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Speaker 1: Thomas is kind of do what he does. But it's

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Speaker 1: a battle between a guy that looks like a first

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Speaker 1: round pick in Kyrie Robinson, who we had as a

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Speaker 1: making a leapkin, and a guy who was one in Ingram.

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Speaker 1: And that's what can be decided in camp. Stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: Like Brandon Cook's that wide receiver. We've given him so much,

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Speaker 1: he needs to have a big August because if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't pick up this offense quickly in the preseason, Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton is a guy who has shown he will leave

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Speaker 1: people behind. He won't play you that much. I've noticed

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Speaker 1: I noticed in your copy for this topic that you

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Speaker 1: only call them New Orleans, not the Saints. Is it

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Speaker 1: like a similar thing with Washington Redskins where you're not

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Speaker 1: comfortable with Saints and using that terminology not a religious man,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely not a religious guy. Ft if I think

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Speaker 1: it's used like Saints. I just wanted to put the

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Speaker 1: spotlight on the greatest city in North America, New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: I think you are covering for a desk that comprehensively

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Speaker 1: missed it. Greg's eyes, He's gonna go over to the

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Speaker 1: news room and fire the hell out of somebody for

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Speaker 1: missing that. Edit who posted this anyway. Moving on to

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Greg rosensall tell us about

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Speaker 1: offensive cornator Jeff Tedford as one of the biggest X

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Speaker 1: factors in the NFL this year. You call him, WHOA

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Speaker 1: you are excited? Do we know if this guy is

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Speaker 1: gonna be the next Chip Kelly or is he gonna

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Speaker 1: be the guy who couldn't win a game at Cal?

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Speaker 1: Marks assistant coaches Mark, you decide, I think the next

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly is Chip Kelly's former quarterback coach. You're going

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Speaker 1: down the Ted ted for I'll take the bill. Well,

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Speaker 1: isn't there It's weird that there isn't some reaction to,

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00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: oh wow, hey, Jeff Tedford's gonna solve our offense. Cal

890
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Speaker 1: didn't win a game last year. I know there are

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00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot of other reasons, but that that seems like

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00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: a factor that you couldn't win one game. And Love

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00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Smith has shown us one thing over the years. He's

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00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: not going to help the offense. He's gonna just watch

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Speaker 1: whatever that guy does and and hope it works. And

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Speaker 1: it never worked. And he was terrible at hiring people

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, So some skepticism should be placed. Are we

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Speaker 1: are they putting a lot on a young rookie Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans and Austin's Farren Jenkins. I mean, we talked about

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown with al Shan Jeffrey last year and how

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00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: that duel, but that he was a second year player.

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Speaker 1: This is Mike Evans who's coming in as a first

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Speaker 1: year player, coming from an offense that wasn't like we

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Speaker 1: said earlier with Johnny Manziel didn't have a playbook. Can

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Speaker 1: he learned? He was out of shape coming in, didn't

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Speaker 1: really know what he was doing. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure if there are going to be a team that's

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Speaker 1: gonna surprise him. But they were a super run heavy

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Speaker 1: team under Greg Siano and maybe they find it out

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Speaker 1: of the gate. They have to be Again, let me

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Speaker 1: throw something out to you, three gentlemen before we wrap

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Speaker 1: this topic up. Josh McCown obviously was great in Chicago

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Speaker 1: last year. We're all kind of in on him. He

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Speaker 1: made our making the list Leap candidate list. Uh Chris

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Speaker 1: Wesley who was not here as especially big fan. He

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Speaker 1: just throw something by you, guys. Let's say Josh McCown.

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Speaker 1: Somehow it reverts back to the guy that he always

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Speaker 1: was beginning this preseason and has a terrible preseason and

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00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: plays terribly. And Mike Lennon, who was a guy with promise,

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Speaker 1: has a great training camp and plays well and with

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Speaker 1: the second team, Josh McCowen is gonna start the season.

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Speaker 1: But is there a chance that if McCown doesn't get

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Speaker 1: out of the gates and Glennon could be a guy

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Speaker 1: that takes over very quickly in the season. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: don't see why not. I mean, it's Josh McCown and

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Speaker 1: the money they're paying him. It's not crazy big money,

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Speaker 1: and he's got an uphill battle. You mentioned their county

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Speaker 1: on Evans. Hopefully he's great their number three wide receiver battle.

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Speaker 1: Here you go. I want you to listen on up

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Speaker 1: the favorite sixth round pick, Robert Herron, the challengers Louis

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Chris Ausu. I think I worked with that

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Speaker 1: guy t G I Fridays territory. That's pretty bad. Imagine

933
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Speaker 1: if Vincent Jackson got hurt like those guys are starting

934
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Speaker 1: well again, maybe they run the ball. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: think Dan's theory is interesting and it wouldn't be shocking.

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Speaker 1: He's he is a natural definition of a bridge quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but a bridge to where we don't know. Very nice

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Speaker 1: and for you fantasy fans, yeah, I definitely get If

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Speaker 1: you draft Josh mcdowe and you're all in, make sure

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Speaker 1: you get a handcuff with that guy because he, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Gregg just dropped a bridge to find himself

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Speaker 1: a fantasyodcast. Really, but but that was terrible I did,

943
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Speaker 1: and that was bad fantasy advice. I'm just gonna say it. Okay, Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: I respect you as a Rhodal World former chief. I

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00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: respect the hell out of Chris Westling, who also worked

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Speaker 1: with a company. Mark is here, he's standing to your left.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're going to invest in Josh

948
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Speaker 1: mc county, it would seem crazy to me to invest

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Speaker 1: roster spots on the Bucks quarterback situation, Like, let's double

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Speaker 1: down just in case my big McCown pick doesn't work out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, man, I'm trying to get out

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Speaker 1: of this. All right. We'll be back on Monday with

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Speaker 1: another edition in Around the League Podcast. Kevin Patrick was

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Speaker 1: an honor and a privilege having you in the studio. Well, handshake,

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Speaker 1: I like that, nice and firm. Back to Chicago, market

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Speaker 1: German freak. Fist pumps. The fist pumps. So back to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Goes are a t L Chicago correspondent, always does

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Speaker 1: great work. Chris Wesley will be back in his usual spot,

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Speaker 1: and t D we'll be out of the mix next week.

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Speaker 1: I'll be here for the first episode. Okay, good. Then

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Speaker 1: we have a guest coming as well, fellow general manager.

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Speaker 1: Were just leaving it. Tease it, We'll tease it. I

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Speaker 1: like that, all right. So until then, this is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansis signing off for the Sizzler, the Boss, Kevin Patrick

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Speaker 1: coming at you and t D until next week. This

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Speaker 1: will be the signal for here's the celebration music.