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Speaker 1: School of Humans.

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Speaker 2: On October thirty first, twenty twenty, twenty, two year old

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Speaker 2: Aisha Jackson went out to a Halloween party. Before she left,

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Speaker 2: she talked to her mom, Liquida, and then she got

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Speaker 2: into a costume and went out with a couple of

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Speaker 2: her girlfriends. Ayisha was also with her aunt, Shequila, and

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Speaker 2: her uncle, William Parker Junior, who goes by the nickname

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Speaker 2: Thuga Man. Aisha was living on South Roselawn in Eldoredo, Arkansas,

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Speaker 2: but she had had a few break ins in her

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Speaker 2: home recently, so because of that, she had been staying

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Speaker 2: on and off with her uncle William and his wife,

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Speaker 2: Shequila in their home, which was a few minutes away

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Speaker 2: on Stewart Avenue. Aisha had mentioned going with William and

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Speaker 2: Shequila to Houston on November first. William and Shequila had

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Speaker 2: going to move some furniture out of their apartment in

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Speaker 2: in constant touch with her mom, Liquita. They talked multiple

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Speaker 2: times per day, but on November one, twenty twenty, Ayisha

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Speaker 2: went radio silent. Liquita was able to reach her brother

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Speaker 2: William now. At first, William told Liquita that Ayisha was sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Liquida kept calling Ayisha's phone, and her daughter never answered.

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Speaker 2: She finally reached William again at around nine pm that

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Speaker 2: night on November first. He told Liquita that Aisha had

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Speaker 2: gone on the Houston trip with him in Shequila, but

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Speaker 2: that he had already dropped Ayisha back at her home.

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Speaker 2: Liquita thought this was weird because since the break ends again,

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Speaker 2: Aisha was afraid of being home by herself. Liquita wondered

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Speaker 2: why would Aisha not stay with her aunt and uncle

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Speaker 2: at their house. Why would she go home by herself

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Speaker 2: after dark. Liquita spent that night tossing and turning. At

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Speaker 2: around nine am on the morning of November two, she

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Speaker 2: and Ayisha's brother, Jaiques, who was in high school at

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Speaker 2: the time, and Liquita's husband, Freddy, got in the car

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Speaker 2: and drove over to Ayisha's house on South Roselawn. They

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Speaker 2: found the door cracked open, and when they went in,

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Speaker 2: the inside of Ayisha's house was in total disarray. Ayisha's

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Speaker 2: dog was out of the kennel. Her stuff was thrown around,

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Speaker 2: but nothing was really stolen. Her purse and wallet and

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Speaker 2: medication were all there, but Ayisha Jackson was gone.

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Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend.

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Speaker 2: If you have a case you'd like me and my

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Speaker 2: team to look into, you can reach out to us

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Speaker 2: at our Helen Gone Murder line at six seven eight

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Speaker 2: seven four four six one four or five.

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Speaker 1: That six seven, eight seven four four, six, one four

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Speaker 1: or five.

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Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Last week we mentioned

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Speaker 2: that Ayisha had recently reported a break in at her home.

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Speaker 2: There is a police report that we've gotten, and in

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Speaker 2: a case where there's no sign of the missing person,

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Speaker 2: there's no body and no real crime scene, at least

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Speaker 2: not yet, it's very important to take a look at

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Speaker 2: the physical evidence that we do have and to really

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Speaker 2: try to go in depth into it. We need to

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Speaker 2: figure out could the person who broke into Ayisha's home

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Speaker 2: have anything to do with her disappearance. Ayisha called the

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Speaker 2: police on October twenty six, twenty twenty, just five days

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Speaker 2: before she vanished. Officer Tyler Walker of the Eldoredo Police

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Speaker 2: Department took that call just after one twenty am on

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Speaker 2: the report. It states that Ayisha told Officer Walker that

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Speaker 2: she came home on October twenty third, a few days earlier,

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Speaker 2: and found that someone had been inside her house. She

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Speaker 2: bedroom had been ransacked, but she said she didn't notice

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Speaker 2: anything missing from there now. At this time, she tells

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Speaker 2: the officer that she believed that a man that she knew,

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Speaker 2: a man named Samaji, was responsible for this theft. Remember,

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Speaker 2: Samaji was a twenty three year old man whom Aisha

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Speaker 2: had been casually dating. She had recently gotten out of

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Speaker 2: a long term relationship, and she and Samaji had stopped

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Speaker 2: seeing each other shortly before she disappeared. But I wonder

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Speaker 2: whether it was Samaji or not, whoever broke in, what

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Speaker 1: Later, I do find a possible clue.

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Speaker 2: I've seen screenshots of Ayisha's Facebook messenger. She sent a

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Speaker 2: I've also heard rumors about someone else who knew Ayisha

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Speaker 2: truth to that. Back to the police report. In that

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Speaker 2: may be responsible for the break in. I'm noticing this

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Speaker 2: is a slightly different story from what we've heard in

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Speaker 2: told reporters after Ayisha went missing that Aisha had come

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Speaker 2: Her grandmother said Aisha had definitely recognized one of those

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Speaker 2: We don't know if maybe Aisha might have had reservations

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Speaker 2: an important distinction to note that in that police report,

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Speaker 2: in and busted him in her place. After Ayisha reported

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Speaker 1: This meant that a.

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Speaker 2: Patrol car was supposed to make some extra trips and

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Speaker 2: cruised by her house. Despite that fact, when Laquita contacted

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Speaker 2: police on November two about Ayisha being missing, police told

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Speaker 2: her she would have to wait to follow that report, which,

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Speaker 2: as we discussed last.

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Speaker 1: Week, is completely incorrect.

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Speaker 2: You do not have to wait forty two or seventy

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Speaker 2: Liquita kept calling the police, but it was November fifth

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Speaker 2: before police finally started investigating. Liquida spent days trying to

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Speaker 2: And even after Ayisha was officially reported missing and police

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Speaker 2: crime scene. They also did not take Ayisha's cell phone.

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Speaker 2: This cell phone is going to become a big part

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Speaker 2: into its charger. Liquita said that Shaquila, William's wife took

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Speaker 2: able to guess Ayisha's password, but apparently they couldn't, at

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Speaker 2: least that's the story Liquita was told. So after that,

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Speaker 2: Liquita was locked out of her daughter's phone. Police did

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Speaker 2: eventually take Ayisha's phone, but that was several days later,

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Speaker 2: after November fifth, when she was officially reported missing. So

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Speaker 2: that there were text messages coming from Ayisha's phone. Ayisha's

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Speaker 2: third and that she saw Ayisha in the background when

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Speaker 2: she made that call, but that's never been confirmed. Another

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Speaker 2: her posts on November fourth, So if that's true and

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Speaker 2: Ayisha was gone, how is that possible? Who was reacting

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Speaker 2: last week, there were tips coming in about Aisha once

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Speaker 2: she was officially reported missing. But I think it's really

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Speaker 2: important to take a step back and ask ourselves where

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Speaker 2: these tips were coming from. Remember last week, Liquida and

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Speaker 2: and Shequila. Jacques said that when he and his mother

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Speaker 1: Right behind them.

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Speaker 2: Jacques and Laqueda both said that they thought it was

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Speaker 2: of course, this is Ayisha's aunt, and everyone handles grief

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Speaker 2: You may remember from last week that Jacques talked about

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Speaker 2: the fact Ayisha's family got a tip that Ayisha was

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Speaker 2: buried in a shallow gray in Strong, Arkansas. So, according

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Speaker 2: in early December, Shaquila made a Facebook live asking the

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Speaker 1: Help, help like.

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Speaker 2: Shaquilla was very emotional in this Facebook live. She has

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Speaker 1: She said she wanted anyone.

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Speaker 2: With a four wheeler or a vehicle that could help

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Speaker 2: begged for help. She kept saying, she's been gone a month.

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Speaker 2: In four days, what are y'all doing talking about the

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Speaker 2: police department? Now, I've replayed this message over and over

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Speaker 2: because I notice that la later says publicly on national

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Speaker 2: November third, which would have been a month and three days. Now.

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Speaker 2: This seems like a small discrepancy, but as you'll see,

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Speaker 2: with white boys. She says something about white boys taking

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Speaker 2: to Ayisha's long term ex boyfriend, who was white, because

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Speaker 2: Ayisha had very recently broken up with his person Jacques

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Speaker 2: talked last week about Ayisha's long term boyfriend. He said

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Speaker 2: that he had an alibi, and that he helped search

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Speaker 1: Disappearance at all.

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Speaker 2: Ayisha's own family said that the guy Ayisha suspected of

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Speaker 2: had been seeing Samaji casually shortly before she disappeared. I'm

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Speaker 2: just flagging this up because I'm wondering why this statement

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Speaker 2: He told William he had information about Aisha, but he

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Speaker 2: that happened on this video camera and after he finished

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Speaker 2: So the three alleged shooters got off lightly. One got

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Speaker 2: In September of twenty twenty three, Samaji, the man who

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Speaker 2: Now, this case and William's case are both still making

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Speaker 2: And I'm pointing this out because none of this proves

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Speaker 2: Laquita's friend communicated via email and I've seen those emails.

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Speaker 2: So Jacques was kind of calling out Shaquila on social media.

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Speaker 1: But Jacques said that post was later removed.

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Speaker 2: After months had gone by and he wasn't getting any

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Speaker 2: He contacted several shows, including the Steve Wilcost Show. So

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Speaker 1: You have people who are.

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Speaker 2: really applaud Jaquez here because, in my opinion, this was

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00:26:40,725 --> 00:26:43,845
Speaker 2: a pretty ingenious way of getting Shaquila to talk to

434
00:26:43,885 --> 00:26:46,845
Speaker 2: people about what happened on the record and in whatever

435
00:26:46,965 --> 00:26:50,125
Speaker 2: roundabout way to get a light of detector test. It's

436
00:26:50,245 --> 00:26:52,645
Speaker 2: always a good idea in cases like this to keep

437
00:26:52,685 --> 00:26:55,965
Speaker 2: people talking because sooner or later, I believe most of

438
00:26:56,005 --> 00:26:59,245
Speaker 2: them will trip up. Having a record of those contradictions

439
00:26:59,325 --> 00:27:01,485
Speaker 2: is what can ultimately break a case, and that's why

440
00:27:01,525 --> 00:27:04,325
Speaker 2: I go so in depth into all these details.

441
00:27:06,285 --> 00:27:09,605
Speaker 1: So I've seen the show. Jacques appears first.

442
00:27:09,685 --> 00:27:13,285
Speaker 2: He talks about Ayisha, and he said that Shaquila, in

443
00:27:13,405 --> 00:27:16,205
Speaker 2: his opinion, had been, in his words, giving us the

444
00:27:16,245 --> 00:27:19,685
Speaker 2: run around for years. He said, point blank he thinks

445
00:27:19,685 --> 00:27:21,685
Speaker 2: that his AUNTI Shaquila, had something to do with the

446
00:27:21,685 --> 00:27:25,045
Speaker 2: disappearance of Aisha, or at least he said, he believes

447
00:27:25,045 --> 00:27:28,765
Speaker 2: she knows more than she's saying. And you really feel

448
00:27:28,805 --> 00:27:31,605
Speaker 2: for Jaques when you watch this because he explains how

449
00:27:31,765 --> 00:27:36,125
Speaker 2: after his sister disappeared, he was bullied at school. People

450
00:27:36,205 --> 00:27:39,605
Speaker 2: were saying he was weird. Some of them even alleged

451
00:27:39,645 --> 00:27:43,525
Speaker 2: he had something to do with Ayisha's disappearance. Jacques started

452
00:27:43,525 --> 00:27:46,085
Speaker 2: to wonder about the LA detector test because he said

453
00:27:46,125 --> 00:27:48,885
Speaker 2: Shaquila had posted on Facebook that she had taken one

454
00:27:48,925 --> 00:27:52,245
Speaker 2: and passed it. Jacques called the police detective who was

455
00:27:52,285 --> 00:27:55,885
Speaker 2: working the case, and he says that the police told

456
00:27:55,965 --> 00:27:59,045
Speaker 2: him this was not true, that William and Shaquila had

457
00:27:59,085 --> 00:28:01,885
Speaker 2: not taken light of detector tests. So on the show,

458
00:28:02,005 --> 00:28:05,485
Speaker 2: Jaques confronts her about this lat of detector test.

459
00:28:05,525 --> 00:28:07,325
Speaker 1: Kuila comes out she's very angry.

460
00:28:07,765 --> 00:28:11,085
Speaker 2: She says she's not a monster, she loved Ayisha and

461
00:28:11,205 --> 00:28:15,125
Speaker 2: this is all false accusations against her. At that moment,

462
00:28:15,285 --> 00:28:19,685
Speaker 2: all hell basically broke loose. Jacques and Shaequila started physically fighting.

463
00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:23,005
Speaker 2: He was screaming at her, he was shaking and asking if.

464
00:28:22,925 --> 00:28:23,925
Speaker 1: She had something to do with it.

465
00:28:27,685 --> 00:28:30,605
Speaker 2: Steve Wilcos asked her about what happened on the day

466
00:28:30,605 --> 00:28:31,605
Speaker 2: when Aisha went missing.

467
00:28:32,005 --> 00:28:34,005
Speaker 1: Her reply was very interesting because.

468
00:28:33,765 --> 00:28:37,925
Speaker 2: She says, quote November three, to be exact, we first

469
00:28:38,005 --> 00:28:40,365
Speaker 2: went to Houston to move some stuff out of my

470
00:28:40,365 --> 00:28:42,445
Speaker 2: old apartment because I was getting ready to get back

471
00:28:42,485 --> 00:28:45,165
Speaker 2: to Arkansas. We put the stuff into storage, and we

472
00:28:45,245 --> 00:28:48,165
Speaker 2: came back to Arkansas, dropped her off at home. I

473
00:28:48,245 --> 00:28:51,565
Speaker 2: walked her in, and me and Thugaman meaning William gave

474
00:28:51,645 --> 00:28:56,245
Speaker 2: her some decorations and stuff end quote. So she told

475
00:28:56,285 --> 00:28:59,285
Speaker 2: Steve Wilcost they were the last two people to see

476
00:28:59,285 --> 00:29:02,125
Speaker 2: her alive. She said she didn't have the slightest idea

477
00:29:02,205 --> 00:29:04,045
Speaker 2: what happened to Ayisha, and that she wanted to be

478
00:29:04,085 --> 00:29:06,005
Speaker 2: on the show so they could find out what happened

479
00:29:06,005 --> 00:29:08,725
Speaker 2: to her and also to clear her name. So a

480
00:29:08,725 --> 00:29:10,965
Speaker 2: couple of things are interesting about this First of all,

481
00:29:11,565 --> 00:29:16,045
Speaker 2: she says November three, but Laquita insists that they were

482
00:29:16,085 --> 00:29:19,325
Speaker 2: all at the home on November two, So how could

483
00:29:19,325 --> 00:29:22,005
Speaker 2: the trip to Houston have taken place on November third?

484
00:29:22,045 --> 00:29:25,125
Speaker 2: And if it did, why didn't Aisha answer the phone

485
00:29:25,325 --> 00:29:27,565
Speaker 2: between November one and November third?

486
00:29:27,605 --> 00:29:29,125
Speaker 1: What was going on during that time?

487
00:29:29,485 --> 00:29:31,925
Speaker 2: Someone is wrong about these dates and the police are

488
00:29:31,965 --> 00:29:37,005
Speaker 2: not exploring these contradictions. Shaquila did admit that she did

489
00:29:37,045 --> 00:29:40,245
Speaker 2: not take a lot detector test, so at least that

490
00:29:40,485 --> 00:29:41,205
Speaker 2: was cleared up.

491
00:29:42,365 --> 00:29:43,925
Speaker 1: She said police told.

492
00:29:43,685 --> 00:29:45,725
Speaker 2: Her and William they didn't need to take one because

493
00:29:45,725 --> 00:29:50,205
Speaker 2: they were not suspects. Jaques then asked, well, okay, if

494
00:29:50,205 --> 00:29:52,165
Speaker 2: he didn't take a lot of detector test, why did

495
00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:55,165
Speaker 2: you make a Facebook post saying you had. She says

496
00:29:55,165 --> 00:29:58,925
Speaker 2: she didn't make that post, so again another contradiction that

497
00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:03,525
Speaker 2: needs to be explored. Shaquilla says some other interesting and

498
00:30:03,565 --> 00:30:06,325
Speaker 2: in my opinion, potentially revealing things whi she's on stage.

499
00:30:06,765 --> 00:30:08,725
Speaker 2: I would actually love to see the rest of the tape,

500
00:30:09,045 --> 00:30:11,165
Speaker 2: the part of these interviews that did not make it

501
00:30:11,165 --> 00:30:12,805
Speaker 2: to error, but I don't know if that'll ever happen.

502
00:30:14,805 --> 00:30:18,325
Speaker 2: The other interesting part was when Steve Wilcos asked Shaquilla

503
00:30:18,365 --> 00:30:20,285
Speaker 2: if she thought William could have had anything to do

504
00:30:20,365 --> 00:30:24,805
Speaker 2: with it. She said, quote, at the time we dropped

505
00:30:24,845 --> 00:30:27,925
Speaker 2: her off, no, now if he doubled.

506
00:30:27,485 --> 00:30:29,965
Speaker 1: Back, I can't speak to that end quote.

507
00:30:30,685 --> 00:30:33,005
Speaker 2: So she's saying right there that in her mind, it's

508
00:30:33,045 --> 00:30:35,725
Speaker 2: possible that William did go back to Aisha's home and

509
00:30:35,725 --> 00:30:39,925
Speaker 2: do something to her. Steve Wilcos asked her what made

510
00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:41,845
Speaker 2: her change her mind about William and think he could

511
00:30:41,845 --> 00:30:45,285
Speaker 2: have had something to do with it. She talked about

512
00:30:45,325 --> 00:30:47,525
Speaker 2: stuff she found out. What did she mean there?

513
00:30:48,525 --> 00:30:49,725
Speaker 1: And she said.

514
00:30:49,765 --> 00:30:53,605
Speaker 2: Basically that the stuff was accusations of sexual assault.

515
00:30:53,885 --> 00:30:56,285
Speaker 1: Because it turned out that Shaquila.

516
00:30:56,245 --> 00:31:00,485
Speaker 2: Believed that her husband, William, may have sexually assaulted Aisha,

517
00:31:00,765 --> 00:31:16,485
Speaker 2: his own niece. So now we're hearing this bombshell news

518
00:31:16,485 --> 00:31:21,485
Speaker 2: that there was an accusation that William had sexually assaulted Aisha.

519
00:31:21,645 --> 00:31:24,885
Speaker 2: On the show, Shaquilla said that she and William were

520
00:31:24,885 --> 00:31:28,605
Speaker 2: not together anymore. The whole timeline of their relationship is

521
00:31:28,605 --> 00:31:32,045
Speaker 2: a little bit unclear because according to court records, Shaquilla

522
00:31:32,125 --> 00:31:35,805
Speaker 2: filed for divorce on March first, twenty nineteen, so more

523
00:31:35,845 --> 00:31:38,885
Speaker 2: than a year before Ayisha went missing. The divorce was

524
00:31:38,925 --> 00:31:41,845
Speaker 2: finalized in early twenty twenty, So it does seem like

525
00:31:41,885 --> 00:31:44,365
Speaker 2: they were on and off for a while, but family

526
00:31:44,405 --> 00:31:47,285
Speaker 2: members say that William and Shequilla were together at the

527
00:31:47,285 --> 00:31:52,805
Speaker 2: time Aisha disappeared. Like many people, I'm wondering what exactly

528
00:31:52,845 --> 00:31:53,965
Speaker 2: did Shaquilla.

529
00:31:53,605 --> 00:31:55,245
Speaker 1: Know and when did she know it.

530
00:31:57,805 --> 00:32:00,405
Speaker 2: After all that drama, Steve Wilkos came out with his

531
00:32:00,525 --> 00:32:04,685
Speaker 2: envelope and he revealed the results of Shaquila's law detector test. Now,

532
00:32:04,725 --> 00:32:06,885
Speaker 2: obviously I just want to say these results are not

533
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,725
Speaker 2: admissible in court, and there's a good reason for that.

534
00:32:10,205 --> 00:32:12,765
Speaker 2: And with this test, we don't know who administered it.

535
00:32:12,845 --> 00:32:15,285
Speaker 2: The reliability of these tests is really dependent on the

536
00:32:15,285 --> 00:32:18,285
Speaker 2: skill of the operator. So I am not saying in

537
00:32:18,325 --> 00:32:20,365
Speaker 2: any way this is one hundred percent certain, but it

538
00:32:20,405 --> 00:32:24,245
Speaker 2: is interesting. By the way, when Steve asked Shaquilla who

539
00:32:24,325 --> 00:32:28,045
Speaker 2: she thought was responsible for Aisha's disappearance, she said she

540
00:32:28,085 --> 00:32:31,405
Speaker 2: thought it was one of Ayisha's boyfriends. So the first

541
00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:35,725
Speaker 2: question that the lie detector test ash Shequilla was were

542
00:32:35,765 --> 00:32:39,365
Speaker 2: you involved in the disappearance of Ayisha Jackson? She said no,

543
00:32:39,965 --> 00:32:44,205
Speaker 2: and they determined that she was telling the truth. Then

544
00:32:44,405 --> 00:32:47,285
Speaker 2: the second question was do you know for sure who

545
00:32:47,365 --> 00:32:51,285
Speaker 2: is involved in the disappearance of Ayisha Jackson. She said no,

546
00:32:52,045 --> 00:32:55,885
Speaker 2: and the results were that she did not tell the truth. Now,

547
00:32:55,925 --> 00:32:58,765
Speaker 2: after that result was read, all hell broke loose again.

548
00:32:58,845 --> 00:33:01,685
Speaker 2: Jacques was crying and looked like he was trying to

549
00:33:01,725 --> 00:33:02,605
Speaker 2: fight his ann again.

550
00:33:02,725 --> 00:33:05,045
Speaker 1: You could just see the devastation and it was genuine.

551
00:33:05,085 --> 00:33:07,925
Speaker 2: I know people say that sometimes these shows are fake,

552
00:33:08,005 --> 00:33:13,005
Speaker 2: but this was absolutely genuine. After that, Shaquila seems like

553
00:33:13,045 --> 00:33:15,565
Speaker 2: she's kind of trying to explain how that result happened.

554
00:33:16,085 --> 00:33:18,765
Speaker 2: She said she started to have suspicions about William because

555
00:33:18,765 --> 00:33:22,845
Speaker 2: she saw a video, a video where William allegedly admitted

556
00:33:23,245 --> 00:33:28,445
Speaker 2: that he essayed someone. Essay, by the way, means sexual assault.

557
00:33:30,645 --> 00:33:34,165
Speaker 2: I wonder if she's talking about a TikTok video, because

558
00:33:34,205 --> 00:33:38,045
Speaker 2: this TikTok video put a shocking twist in this case.

559
00:33:39,285 --> 00:33:41,565
Speaker 2: The person who made it, Rob, was an old friend

560
00:33:41,645 --> 00:33:43,445
Speaker 2: of Rena's who got involved with.

561
00:33:43,405 --> 00:33:44,845
Speaker 1: The case and was trying to help.

562
00:33:45,325 --> 00:33:48,565
Speaker 2: And as part of this TikTok, Rob put up a

563
00:33:48,605 --> 00:33:52,405
Speaker 2: conversation that Rena had with the mayor of Elddo, Arkansas,

564
00:33:52,525 --> 00:33:56,725
Speaker 2: Paul Choate, on February first, twenty twenty three, just a

565
00:33:56,765 --> 00:33:59,645
Speaker 2: little bit of background on that Rena had been asking

566
00:33:59,685 --> 00:34:03,445
Speaker 2: the mayor for months to meet with her. He finally

567
00:34:03,485 --> 00:34:07,165
Speaker 2: agreed and she took her friend Joanna and another person

568
00:34:07,245 --> 00:34:10,325
Speaker 2: with her, so three people were present when this conversation

569
00:34:10,405 --> 00:34:13,765
Speaker 2: took place. Rena recorded it and later she passed it

570
00:34:13,845 --> 00:34:18,925
Speaker 2: on to Rob Now. In this TikTok video, Rob mentions

571
00:34:19,005 --> 00:34:22,645
Speaker 2: that a police detective assigned to the case allegedly said

572
00:34:22,965 --> 00:34:25,925
Speaker 2: that Ayisha's uncle had essayed her in the past, meaning

573
00:34:25,965 --> 00:34:28,205
Speaker 2: sexually assaulted, and that it could be proven.

574
00:34:29,005 --> 00:34:31,405
Speaker 1: But they also supposedly said.

575
00:34:31,605 --> 00:34:35,605
Speaker 2: They weren't really looking into William because his alibi sounded credible.

576
00:34:36,525 --> 00:34:40,965
Speaker 2: The Eldado mayor told Rena that if she keeps pushing

577
00:34:41,005 --> 00:34:44,925
Speaker 2: the police department, if they expose potential mistakes they made,

578
00:34:45,205 --> 00:34:47,405
Speaker 2: that they're going to get frozen out and they need

579
00:34:47,445 --> 00:34:47,925
Speaker 2: to drop it.

580
00:34:48,885 --> 00:34:51,925
Speaker 4: I should be able to say this department did not

581
00:34:52,085 --> 00:34:55,125
Speaker 4: follow the correct policy and procedure and we shouldn't try

582
00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:59,045
Speaker 4: to cover that.

583
00:35:01,765 --> 00:35:05,325
Speaker 2: You will alienate yourself from any communication with police Clarks.

584
00:35:06,005 --> 00:35:07,885
Speaker 4: What do you mean if that's us let out that

585
00:35:08,005 --> 00:35:11,965
Speaker 4: they that they had not followed properly. Okay, but that's

586
00:35:12,045 --> 00:35:14,685
Speaker 4: still not But it's the truth. So you tell me

587
00:35:14,765 --> 00:35:16,525
Speaker 4: stick to facts. That's a fact.

588
00:35:17,205 --> 00:35:19,205
Speaker 2: Go and see what happens.

589
00:35:19,765 --> 00:35:22,525
Speaker 4: Mean, but do what and see what I can do?

590
00:35:22,605 --> 00:35:25,805
Speaker 4: What and see what happens. If you say they're not following.

591
00:35:26,205 --> 00:35:29,485
Speaker 3: If you've become accusatory, that's not accusing.

592
00:35:29,565 --> 00:35:31,045
Speaker 4: That's a fact.

593
00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:34,885
Speaker 1: Yes, okay.

594
00:35:39,245 --> 00:35:41,485
Speaker 2: Rob makes a good point in his TikTok. He goes

595
00:35:41,525 --> 00:35:44,325
Speaker 2: on to say that hundreds of thousands of young women

596
00:35:44,365 --> 00:35:47,685
Speaker 2: go missing every year in the United States, a disproportionate

597
00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:50,445
Speaker 2: number of Black women, and often these are the stories

598
00:35:50,445 --> 00:35:51,765
Speaker 2: that get forgotten by the media.

599
00:35:53,125 --> 00:35:55,925
Speaker 3: It's absolutely ridiculous that a young woman can just disappear

600
00:35:56,045 --> 00:35:58,685
Speaker 3: like this and nobody gives a shit. It's even more

601
00:35:58,685 --> 00:36:00,765
Speaker 3: frustrating that people who are supposed to be helping or

602
00:36:00,805 --> 00:36:03,645
Speaker 3: just brushing it off and not taking it seriously. It's

603
00:36:03,685 --> 00:36:06,405
Speaker 3: also worth noting a third of the almost three hundred

604
00:36:06,405 --> 00:36:08,925
Speaker 3: thousand girls and women reported the missing in the US

605
00:36:08,965 --> 00:36:12,405
Speaker 3: and twenty twenty we're black. If those cases often get

606
00:36:12,485 --> 00:36:15,125
Speaker 3: little attention, are all but ignored by law enforcement and

607
00:36:15,205 --> 00:36:18,805
Speaker 3: national news media. Ayasha's case is just one example of

608
00:36:18,845 --> 00:36:20,965
Speaker 3: the many missing black women who don't get the attention

609
00:36:21,005 --> 00:36:21,445
Speaker 3: they deserve.

610
00:36:22,925 --> 00:36:25,525
Speaker 2: But we're not going to forget about Ayisha Jackson because

611
00:36:25,525 --> 00:36:29,925
Speaker 2: at this point, her family, her mother, her brother, and

612
00:36:30,005 --> 00:36:33,965
Speaker 2: everyone in the community wants answers. And I want to reiterate,

613
00:36:35,325 --> 00:36:38,685
Speaker 2: neither William nor Shaquila have been charged with anything or

614
00:36:38,725 --> 00:36:42,365
Speaker 2: even named people of interest by police to my knowledge.

615
00:36:42,445 --> 00:36:45,485
Speaker 2: I'm really not trying to point the finger at anyone.

616
00:36:46,165 --> 00:36:50,205
Speaker 2: I am trying to point out these inconsistencies because the

617
00:36:50,285 --> 00:36:53,805
Speaker 2: devils in the details. These inconsistencies need to be resolved

618
00:36:53,845 --> 00:36:58,005
Speaker 2: and explained, and if the police would take a closer

619
00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,165
Speaker 2: look at them, I really believe that they could solve

620
00:37:01,205 --> 00:37:07,685
Speaker 2: this case. And the other thing that we really need

621
00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:11,765
Speaker 2: in this case is because we've been hearing for years

622
00:37:11,805 --> 00:37:14,845
Speaker 2: that the last time Ayisha was seen was on November fourth,

623
00:37:14,845 --> 00:37:17,645
Speaker 2: and that's in the original police report, we need the

624
00:37:17,685 --> 00:37:21,165
Speaker 2: public to know that is incorrect. The last time that

625
00:37:21,245 --> 00:37:24,365
Speaker 2: Ayisha was seen alive that we know of was October

626
00:37:24,445 --> 00:37:29,005
Speaker 2: thirty first, twenty twenty. That's the crucial time period. If

627
00:37:29,085 --> 00:37:32,485
Speaker 2: you know of anyone who was around in El Dorado

628
00:37:32,685 --> 00:37:35,485
Speaker 2: near Ayisha or any of her friends and family on

629
00:37:35,525 --> 00:37:39,805
Speaker 2: October twenty first to November two, twenty twenty, we want

630
00:37:39,845 --> 00:37:42,965
Speaker 2: to hear from you the last picture that we have

631
00:37:43,205 --> 00:37:47,565
Speaker 2: of Ayisha is Aisha in her purge costume posing with

632
00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:51,605
Speaker 2: her girlfriends at the gas station. She looked like everything

633
00:37:51,725 --> 00:37:54,125
Speaker 2: was fine and she was looking forward to a night out.

634
00:37:54,285 --> 00:37:55,765
Speaker 1: And you may remember from last.

635
00:37:55,525 --> 00:37:58,925
Speaker 2: Week one of Ayisha's girlfriends said that William was talking

636
00:37:58,965 --> 00:38:02,125
Speaker 2: about going to Houston. He wanted her the friend to

637
00:38:02,205 --> 00:38:05,725
Speaker 2: go with him and Ayisha to Houston. The friend said no,

638
00:38:06,485 --> 00:38:09,645
Speaker 2: and she said on social media William was acting weird

639
00:38:09,685 --> 00:38:15,205
Speaker 2: about that. So what really happened after Ayisha, William and

640
00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:19,685
Speaker 2: Shaquila left Ayisha's other girlfriends. What happened next? Did they

641
00:38:19,765 --> 00:38:21,805
Speaker 2: go back to Stuart Avenue? At any point to William

642
00:38:21,805 --> 00:38:25,925
Speaker 2: and Shaquilla's house. There was a neighbor on Stuart Avenue

643
00:38:26,285 --> 00:38:29,605
Speaker 2: who was making posts on Halloween knight, and we know

644
00:38:29,685 --> 00:38:31,845
Speaker 2: that this neighbor was having a party. Now, these are

645
00:38:31,885 --> 00:38:35,445
Speaker 2: small houses, they're very close to each other. There's no fences,

646
00:38:35,845 --> 00:38:37,285
Speaker 2: So if there was a party going on at the

647
00:38:37,325 --> 00:38:41,605
Speaker 2: neighbors it seems likely that someone would have seen Aisha round.

648
00:38:42,045 --> 00:38:44,325
Speaker 2: We need to talk to those people. We need to

649
00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:47,045
Speaker 2: know if she really went to that party, did she

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Speaker 2: go to Houston? What really happened to Aisha? On Halloween

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Speaker 2: night and in the early morning hours of November First.

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Speaker 2: I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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Speaker 2: Gone Murder Line is a production of School of Humans

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Speaker 2: and iHeart Podcasts. It's written and narrated by me, Catherine

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Speaker 2: Townsend and produced by Abby Watts. Music is contributed by

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Speaker 2: Ben Sale, Executive producers of Virginia Prescott, Brandon Barr, and L. C.

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Speaker 2: out to us at our Hell and Gone Murder Line

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