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Speaker 1: My next guest is Mark Chef, but the word chef

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Speaker 1: in front of him. Marcus Samuelson. He's an award winning chef,

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Speaker 1: restaurant tour, bestselling author, TV personality, philanthropists, and food activists.

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Speaker 1: His callingary career spans over twenty five years, has numerous

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Speaker 1: Marcus B and B in Order, Marcus Marcus Montreal, and more.

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Speaker 1: His newest book is called The Rise, Black Cooks and

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Speaker 1: traditions that influenced Black cooking and American culture from African

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Speaker 1: money making conversation. Chef Marcus Samuelson. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here, my man.

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Speaker 1: I don't tell you something when you write a book

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Speaker 1: You just love food. Let's get that out. Let's get

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Speaker 1: you do, man, because everybody don't have that style. You

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Speaker 1: You know, here's the beauty of it. Left Beyonce one

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Speaker 1: you know, you know those berries up, just bring them

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Speaker 1: back home and then you make a jam and then

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Speaker 1: pick it. And that was the best pie ever, right

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Speaker 1: because as a child you were part of that. Whether

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Speaker 1: know what we're going out for. We were looking with

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Speaker 1: fine blueberries. Were fine. Come and then they take me.

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Speaker 1: little truth of course, and I was always scared about it.

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Speaker 1: And I have my grandmother, My grandmother, she knew how

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Speaker 1: to cut the head off. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, that's great talking to you, right. I hope

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Speaker 1: we maintain this relationship, man, because you're you're your strong

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Speaker 1: spirit and uh and these recipes like I'm would tell you,

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Speaker 1: But this is something I've become, I've fallen in love

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Speaker 1: with and it's in your book, and I never and

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Speaker 1: for years I'll just pass it up. Cous coups. I

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Speaker 1: love that. I love it. And you have a recipe

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Speaker 1: called cous coups and roasted fig and I love. I

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Speaker 1: grew up I had a fig tree in my backyard,

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Speaker 1: fig tree in the backyard, and we just go and

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Speaker 1: if anybody has a fig treet, you have figs forever.

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Speaker 1: If you have a fig tree and you're like a

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Speaker 1: plump tree, they're just they're just there forever. And so

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Speaker 1: but I've never seen this mix before, talk about this

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Speaker 1: cous cools and roasted fig. Well, you know, if we

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Speaker 1: got to think about it, eating healthier and preusically so

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Speaker 1: light and bright, you know what I mean. And then

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Speaker 1: just you can add any fruit, like if you're in

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Speaker 1: the South, you can all sad peaches to that you need,

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Speaker 1: you know, said nuts. That's it's very easy, right, Sometimes

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Speaker 1: we have so much great food here and couse because

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Speaker 1: it's so easy to cook. Right, you can soak it

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Speaker 1: or just cook it for five minutes and steam it

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Speaker 1: and then just folding your peach or or your figs

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Speaker 1: for example some not some some beautiful freshure and you

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Speaker 1: have a snack. You have a lunch. If you roll

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Speaker 1: some chicken omber that now you have dinner. You know,

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Speaker 1: so we've got to call. You know, we always have

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Speaker 1: to sort of mix up our sides, and that's really

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Speaker 1: the key being to buy being introduced to different foods.

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Speaker 1: But you know, that's the key for us to change

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Speaker 1: our diets so we're not always eating the same and

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Speaker 1: that's really important. And when I go through this book,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you've already been mentioned playing teams, that

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Speaker 1: coconut fried chickenstal pepper pot with dumplings, many more recipes.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I just picked out a few of my favorites. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the couse coups and roastes, fig you know we're talking

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Speaker 1: about here. Here's something I was I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about at the Dukey Chase that's in New Orleans. I've

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Speaker 1: been there several times. Like I said, I live from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: So my best friend who's my best man and my wedding,

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Speaker 1: he's from New Orleans. So I was always in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very for me with Dukeye Chase. Now little

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Speaker 1: Chase has a gumbo recipe in now Yeah, Now, I

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Speaker 1: want to get this straight here because see, I'm being

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I didn't see anything. People always here

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Speaker 1: to say the world rude. You gotta have a rue

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Speaker 1: for a gumbo. I don't know what that is. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna let you know. I just I cook it,

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Speaker 1: just like Lear Chase, does you know, I just put

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Speaker 1: I put it all in the pot. It all goes well.

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Speaker 1: And because my wife the other day, you know, she

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Speaker 1: was looking at the recipe. She's over there, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to get my rue right, I said, what are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? Yes, yes, well this is the thing

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Speaker 1: that both as you guys are right right. The rute

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Speaker 1: is really the flower and the butter makes of the flower,

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Speaker 1: and the point max that you cook out and you

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Speaker 1: get that a little brown. Right. But what's happened how

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Speaker 1: the recipe has evolved this Back in the day, you

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Speaker 1: couldn't afford a lot of vegetables and a lot of

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Speaker 1: seafood to the way something was thicket was with a

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Speaker 1: thick rule which everybody could afford oil and flour. But

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Speaker 1: as today, as cooking is now asked, we can afford

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Speaker 1: more things. We've actually cut down on the rule and

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Speaker 1: adding more, ok, more, more vegetables and more secret into

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Speaker 1: it because the rule itself doesn't really have a great taste.

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Speaker 1: So that's why the modern recipes the rule is kind

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Speaker 1: of cut out because that's all it is. It's flower.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you're right, is right? Traditionally, go way back,

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Speaker 1: a rule was definitely there for that. I mean, you're right,

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Speaker 1: it is always right right. But looking at I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't waste my time with that route. I'll taste

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Speaker 1: the boks. I was just like my girl Chase, I

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Speaker 1: just I just put it together just like that. She

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Speaker 1: uses fish stock. I used chicken stock. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 1: to fish and chicken stock this time. That sounds like

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Speaker 1: a good thing because that fish probably bring me a

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Speaker 1: little natural salt into that, which is really good for

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Speaker 1: my natural fock cooking. But but but I know we're

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Speaker 1: running out of time here, But I wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: up something that growing up, man, I grew up in

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Speaker 1: in the hood, all right, six brothers, two sisters. Both

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Speaker 1: my parents say that we lived in a two bedroom

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Speaker 1: shotgun house. Okay, And and so you know my daughter.

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Speaker 1: My father was a truck driver and my mom used

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Speaker 1: to make hot water corn break Okay. And to this day,

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Speaker 1: I cannot get that. And then I ran across the

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Speaker 1: recipe hole cakes in your book. Yes, yes, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's the whole point about bringing out things quick thinks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. So incredible our ancestor work, right,

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Speaker 1: they had very little, but we still two three hundred

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Speaker 1: years later, still trading or these incredible recipes that our

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Speaker 1: ancestors has. The engeneous in black cooking. You can't take

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Speaker 1: it for you gott to appreciate it, and the only

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Speaker 1: to do that is to document it, share it and

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Speaker 1: tell stories. Right. So this this is you're really deep

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Speaker 1: in the book when you shop buying recipes like that

542
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Speaker 1: and it's like we did that, We did that, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And that's what's really what this

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Speaker 1: book is about, is about celebrating block chefs past, present,

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Speaker 1: and future. And that's what I wanted to tell you

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Speaker 1: a little bit about me and here because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to let you know how passionate and how detailed this

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Speaker 1: book is because it hit home so many ways with

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Speaker 1: me because my wife is from police Okay, so that

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Speaker 1: get that culture from there, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And so I've been fortunate to travel the world, especially

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Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. So I'm very for me with the

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Speaker 1: food down there. You know, Uh jerk pork is still

554
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Speaker 1: was the coolest or meat for me and so and

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Speaker 1: when I come across the book, you know is stripping grids,

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Speaker 1: the fried chicken wattle, a pair of pair of sauce.

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Speaker 1: I'm going like, man, this is a fantastic book. But

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Speaker 1: on top of that, you know, the book I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about is The Rise Black Cooks and the Soul of

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Speaker 1: American Food. Is broken up into five chapters next Remixes.

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Speaker 1: One chapter Migration, is one chapter Legacy and Origin. But

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're willing to promote the brand of

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Speaker 1: black restaurants throughout this country. I'm a champion your cars, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be right there with you, man, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start posting it every week in my social media,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just and in this writing this book,

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Speaker 1: I just want to tell a little bit my life

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Speaker 1: to show you how impactful this books affects me. I'm

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Speaker 1: from the Inner City. I've been fortunate to travel all

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Speaker 1: over this world and I eat amazing food. A lot

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Speaker 1: of the restaurant, uh chef that you mentioned, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the restaurants I've been in and the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're taking the time to show support and strong support

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Speaker 1: for these black restaurants across the country. I'm gonna show

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Speaker 1: my I'm a piggyback on you. Every Wednesday, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start I'm gonna start tagging and and contacting them, getting

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Speaker 1: ten photos and and say this is Rushawan eats, this restaurant,

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Speaker 1: I'm recommending this black owned supported and UH and we

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Speaker 1: host to one of today's top business podcast, it's The

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Speaker 1: Proud Working Mama four. Her uses the platform to empower

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Speaker 1: and embolding women around the world. Rachel calls Austin, Texas

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Speaker 1: her home. I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas, so

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Speaker 1: you know I love her more specifically the hill Country

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Speaker 1: just southside of Austin, which is a beautiful wooded area.

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Speaker 1: She's on the show to discuss her new book. Didn't

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Speaker 1: see that coming. Please, Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I'm

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Speaker 1: calling my friend because she's a Texan girl. Rachel Hollis

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Speaker 1: well based on right now. I got a home in Houston,

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Speaker 1: but my headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. So so I I

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Speaker 1: born in Houston, Texas with the high school with the

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Speaker 1: college there, got married in Houston, Texas. So Texas is

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Speaker 1: my my birth state and my lifestyle state. So how

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Speaker 1: does the field to live in Austin, my friend? And

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Speaker 1: how long have you been in Austin? It feels fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I've been here a little over three years and moving

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Speaker 1: out of Los Angeles into Austin, UH is one of

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Speaker 1: the best decisions I've ever made in my life. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you this. I lived in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles fifteen years, Okay, so I know the full five

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Speaker 1: at ten pm on a something that can be packed

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Speaker 1: like it's five pm, right, all right? I lived in

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Speaker 1: the first I lived in Hollywood right off for one

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Speaker 1: on one and um Hollywood right there, and then I

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Speaker 1: lived off and then I moved to Librea right there

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Speaker 1: and right across from UH Libera topics. I lived in

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Speaker 1: that town homes over there, and then I closed it out,

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Speaker 1: living in the palazzo right across from all the market

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Speaker 1: farmers Market, right across from North have to walk out

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Speaker 1: of the North room that street light. I walked through

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Speaker 1: the street light and not going to North room. That's

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Speaker 1: how I convened my life or rateel very successful either way.

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Speaker 1: I was living large. You're always living yond, right, But

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Speaker 1: that's what l A does for it gives allows you

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Speaker 1: the environment to live large. And then you move to

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Speaker 1: Austin and it just it just like immediately slows down.

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Speaker 1: So while was it important to have a move to

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Speaker 1: Austin for you and the most important in your family? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, for for several reasons. The first the

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Speaker 1: impetus for the move was I am a business owner,

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Speaker 1: and California is not very kind to business owners, but

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Speaker 1: Texas is. Uh, that is exactly right. Uh. So I knew,

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Speaker 1: I knew that I wanted to grow my company, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to grow my team, and I thought I had

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Speaker 1: a better chance of doing that in a state that

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Speaker 1: was a little bit more forgiving, was much lower cost

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Speaker 1: of living, just really practical reasons for why. And Austin

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Speaker 1: was one of my favorite cities in the world still is,

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Speaker 1: and so it made a ton of sense. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think I was even conscious of how much I

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Speaker 1: was going to love getting back to the country and

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Speaker 1: having space. And I mean, I'm doing this interview with you,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm on a hilltop, I'm literally looking out

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Speaker 1: over just just beautiful land. And it feels like such

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Speaker 1: a blessing. Every single day in my life. I looked

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Speaker 1: out at this you and I never take it for granted.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to be here. You know, it's really

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Speaker 1: important to people understand what she's saying. Like, I grew

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Speaker 1: up in a little back store on me right. So

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the in the hood. Uh uh,

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Speaker 1: the six sisters, two brothers, both my parents, and the

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Speaker 1: two bedroom shotgun house. So space was always an issue.

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Speaker 1: I was always on top of people and so and so,

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Speaker 1: you know, people understand that created for a creative person

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Speaker 1: like me, I have to have I have to I

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Speaker 1: have to be able to walk out and not bump

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Speaker 1: into people. And so my home in Houston doesn't a

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Speaker 1: gated community is really nice. But then my property in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta is I have a little lake. And so when

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Speaker 1: I when I bought this property, I my wife, she founded,

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Speaker 1: and I walked into the house and I said I

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Speaker 1: wanted to buy. My wife said, you know, to go

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Speaker 1: cheat like that. You just don't walk in the house

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Because I can look at the

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Speaker 1: back and I saw water, and water is such a

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Speaker 1: common thing to me, and so when I when I

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Speaker 1: when I bring that up because of the fact that

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Speaker 1: you know these are triggers for you, and you talk

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Speaker 1: about that how because you're really big into therapy, and

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Speaker 1: these triggers are important that people understand how you can

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Speaker 1: find that place where you can calm your spirit, calm you,

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Speaker 1: which in turn will will calm your body because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people also know the mental frame that you

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Speaker 1: can can affect you your body and a lot of

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Speaker 1: difficult and a lot of negative ways physically correct. Right.

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Speaker 1: And And the thing that I want to say for

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Speaker 1: your listeners too, is neither you or I grew up

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Speaker 1: inside of privilege in having money, so like I grew

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Speaker 1: up super poor. Um a lot of really difficult stuff

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Speaker 1: in my childhood. And so I just want to say

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Speaker 1: for people who are listening who made me think like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's so easy for you guys to say fine space

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Speaker 1: or have of you or well all of those things.

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Speaker 1: I remember being a little girl and going into my

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Speaker 1: bed and closing my eyes and using my imagination to

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Speaker 1: imagine myself in a different world than the one that

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Speaker 1: I lived inside of. I honestly didn't have the language

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Speaker 1: to call that manifesting or dreaming or naming big goals

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Speaker 1: at the time, but that truly was where I learned

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Speaker 1: how to do it. So you can envision the life

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Speaker 1: that you want. You can envision the space that you

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Speaker 1: are hoping for years before you ever make that thing manifest.

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Speaker 1: So don't think that you need the money or the

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Speaker 1: house or the property in order to find that piece

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Speaker 1: for yourself. That really is something that you can do

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Speaker 1: through mindset and meditation. No, this is I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: Rachel Hollis. Her book. Didn't see that coming. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you why I would live this first time I've

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Speaker 1: spoken to her. But you know, you meet somebody, you

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Speaker 1: read about them, and you do a little research, you go,

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Speaker 1: I love this person. Okay. First of all, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've heard this turn, but you know of

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Speaker 1: watching Instagram account and like the way you staying because

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Speaker 1: your your toes point inward, Okay, when you stayed there,

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Speaker 1: that's called pigeon toad. I don't know if you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm pigeon told. Okay, so we're pigeon toad couple,

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Speaker 1: your pigeon toe couple. Okay, okay, So so so that

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Speaker 1: I said so I said was just pigeon to it.

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Speaker 1: I love her. I love her. And then I'm reading

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Speaker 1: the book and she says, she says this funny line

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Speaker 1: and she talks about, you know, swallowing a watermelon seed

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Speaker 1: and you think a watermelon will grow in your stomach.

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Speaker 1: Raise your hand. That was Rashan McDonald. Ushan, I thought

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus was real. I'm just gonna let you know.

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Speaker 1: That's how that's how simple in my mind. That's how simple,

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Speaker 1: my mond and so and so. Then another thing I

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Speaker 1: laughed out loud, and I was so fun just listening

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Speaker 1: in your book. Was the was the because was the

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Speaker 1: birth mark? The little mold? Oh my god, I wanted

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Speaker 1: the birth mark so bad. That's hilarious, you know. I

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Speaker 1: just I just wanted a little mold somewhere so I could.

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Speaker 1: That's my little sexy spot right there. That's my that's you.

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Speaker 1: And you got it right there, you know, and you're

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Speaker 1: talking you talk about so so we hit it off

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Speaker 1: where we eat it off in four wats Austin, Texas. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then you're a pigeon toe, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: to tell a pigeon toe unless your pigeon toe, you

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about Okay, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what that means. And then she has a beautiful birthmark.

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Speaker 1: And then she actually believed she swallowed the water melons.

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Speaker 1: A watermelon will grow your stomach, Rasha McDonald. Well, and

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Speaker 1: in the book, the reason I'm talking about the watermelon

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Speaker 1: seed is that I want to ask you, as a reader,

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Speaker 1: what are the things that you used to believe as

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Speaker 1: capital t truth that you now know we are not true?

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Speaker 1: Because if you held onto the belief about Santa Claus

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Speaker 1: or the Easter bunny or you know, the you know,

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Speaker 1: if I if I swallow an apple seed like it's

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Speaker 1: poison and it's gonna kill me, then you can ask

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Speaker 1: yourself what, as an adult right now, what limiting belief?

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Speaker 1: What thing are you holding onto right now that could

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Speaker 1: also not be true? And that is especially powerful when

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Speaker 1: the thing that you believe is about your own self

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Speaker 1: and your own abilities. Right Like, I feel like when

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Speaker 1: people grew grow up without not a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that they they sort of go one of two ways.

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Speaker 1: They either have that become their reality. Like the world

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Speaker 1: is out to get me. I'll never get ahead, I'll

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Speaker 1: never have anything. My family doesn't have the resources they

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Speaker 1: have all of these things that they keep telling themselves

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Speaker 1: or you maybe did what you and I do, which

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Speaker 1: is like, Okay, I didn't. I didn't come from anything,

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Speaker 1: but by God, I have the ability to wake up

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Speaker 1: today and try my best, and I can learn and

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Speaker 1: use resources that are out there that are free, and

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Speaker 1: I can grow and become something more. So, what are

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Speaker 1: the things that you used to believe that are actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, for a factor, not true. Well, dang, what

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Speaker 1: are you holding onto right now in your life that

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Speaker 1: maybe need to let go of as well? And that's

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Speaker 1: that's so true, because let let's go back to my belief.

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Speaker 1: There was a Santa Claus okay, and I was born

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Speaker 1: and raised in the hood, so I was holding them

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Speaker 1: to anything that I felt it made me feel good,

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Speaker 1: that made me feel that could take me away from

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Speaker 1: the world that I knew wasn't the world I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be in because I lived in want the community

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Speaker 1: to the until I was ten years old, and then

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Speaker 1: we moved up to a little bit better black neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: But still when I walked outside, it looked like the

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Speaker 1: same neighborhood. Black people all around me. You know. I

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Speaker 1: got on the bus and black people getting on the bus.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like my environment changed. It was just

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Speaker 1: that my lifestyle got upgraded a little bit. And so

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Speaker 1: I believe, and I'm telling you honestly, Rachel, I believe

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Speaker 1: in Santa Claus. I was fifteen years old. I really did.

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Speaker 1: I believe, and so I did not the bubble was

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Speaker 1: burst when my dad woke me up. Okay, woke me up.

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Speaker 1: He come on board. We gotta put these bikes together.

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Speaker 1: Go bikes together, what you're talking about? And he took

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Speaker 1: me outside and uh, and he pulled these bikes that

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Speaker 1: can go there can I was so, I was so

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you say naive, but I was

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Speaker 1: just so wanted to believe that there was something else

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Speaker 1: out there for me other than what I had known

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Speaker 1: and lived that he told me, there's no there's nothing

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Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. So don't worry about that. Let's put

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Speaker 1: these bikes together. We gotta put all this fruit underneath,

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Speaker 1: these Christmas trees, these train tracks, we gotta put all

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Speaker 1: this stuff underneath so everybody can be happy in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That was my That was my entry into adulthood. Right there.

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Speaker 1: I went from I went from like totally believing in

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus to like, huh, I'm an adult down And

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Speaker 1: so that was like the cold slap in the face

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Speaker 1: for me, because you know, sometimes parents don't understand that

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Speaker 1: that transition of information can really can really do something

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Speaker 1: to a child. And it really, I'm not saying it

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Speaker 1: ruined my life, but it was a moment where where

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Speaker 1: I was really safe. I was in a very safe space.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about when you hold on

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Speaker 1: to information and can keep you in a very space

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Speaker 1: safe space. But the augers who can hinder your growth

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Speaker 1: at solutely. And what's so crazy is that people will

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Speaker 1: hold on to the certainty because they do feel comfort

852
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Speaker 1: in it, even to their own detriment. Right, So, I mean,

853
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: I think your the your story about finding that out,

854
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: it like makes my heart hurt. And I don't know

855
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Speaker 1: why this just popped into my head, but the fact

856
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: that it's something that you still think about and like

857
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: you can hear when you tell that story that it

858
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Speaker 1: is a painful memory for you, even if it was

859
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Speaker 1: sort of a rite of passage. And of course your

860
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Speaker 1: dad couldn't have thought, you know, at fifteen years old,

861
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Speaker 1: that you still maybe we're holding onto that truth. I

862
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Speaker 1: wonder what it looks like in your life today, Like

863
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Speaker 1: have you ever thought about I'm just thinking as we

864
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865
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867
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Speaker 1: do something where you are keeping the spirit of Santa

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald.

892
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: We know the thing about my personality is that I

893
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: always go back. Since I was eighteen, I can always

894
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: realize my mission is always to make other people's lives better.

895
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm always in a position to make young people see

896
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: there as opportunity, so I make donations. I'm I'm tied

897
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: to like Pacific UH programs, whether it's entertainment program for

898
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: kids who want to pursue entertainment careers. I have a

899
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: scholarship foundation at my alma made Universe Houston for minority

900
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: students who want math and science opportunities and optometry opportunities

901
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: and education so so I've always had that built in

902
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: mechanism to to make people feel good that and see opportunity.

903
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: And then I'm a big Christmas decorator. Okay, I loved

904
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: that that that Christmas tree is going up at my house.

905
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: You know, I will spend money to make sure people

906
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: understand that I value and feel good about the Christmas moment.

907
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: The spirit of uplift, the spirit of feel good, that

908
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: that dominates my life. And so when I'm reading your book,

909
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, don't see don't didn't see that coming. You know,

910
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: your whole story when you're telling from that tragic moment,

911
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: you know mine is nowhere near the tragic moment You're

912
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: walking in on your brother Ryan and his suicide. But

913
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: it was a jolting moment for me because I was

914
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: in denial about there was no Santa clause according to

915
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: my parents, and when people told me, I wrote letters.

916
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: And when when you can look at the news, they

917
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: always tell you he's flying over the North Pole. They're

918
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: telling the news is telling I just up and tell

919
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: my friend. They would look at me like, boy, you

920
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: are so stupid. Really look at the news. I validated,

921
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: And so when you look at the situation like in

922
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: regards to you, you see signs, but you ignore them.

923
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what happened in your brother's situation.

924
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: There were signs and they were ignored and then the

925
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: reality is never a good thing because the reality led

926
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: to his suicide. So but that was a point that

927
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: Joe to you, and there was a write of passage

928
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: that you weren't prepared to deal with. You had to

929
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: deal with it because guess what it was thrust upon you? Yes, exactly, Well,

930
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I think you know that is I think that most

931
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: people go through something in their lives that divides their

932
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: life in half. It's that pivotal moment, whether that happens

933
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: at age six or fourteen or thirty nine, where you

934
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: divide your life into before and after this thing. And

935
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: for me, the death of my older brother is my

936
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: before and after? Is it? You know? I describe it

937
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: as our family was was so was so not great,

938
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: but we were still clinging to something right. And then

939
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Ryan's death was it literally was the straw that broke

940
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: the camel's back, like it just decimated whatever was left.

941
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: And as much as I have always been a really

942
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: mature even as a little girl, I was very mature.

943
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I grew up, Like you said, you know, you grew

944
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: up in that moment. I grew up that day. Um,

945
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: I you know, my parents really obviously you know, they

946
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: had just lost their son, but they really struggled with

947
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: keeping it together. And I remember being way too young,

948
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: and you know, doing things that I shouldn't have been doing,

949
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: calling and telling family members that he was gone, or

950
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: helping to, you know, write the obituary, just things that

951
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: like I was fourteen, and in retrospect, now that I

952
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: have my own kids, I can look at that and

953
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: see how not okay it was. But at the same time,

954
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what life is. Life are these

955
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: is this a series of moments where you you're you're

956
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: in it and you're sort of asked to step up

957
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: and you're asked to figure it out. And um, it's

958
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: not the only time that's happened to me in my

959
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: life and and and I think, honestly, it may not

960
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: be the only time for the rest of my life

961
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: that I go through something that difficult, which you know,

962
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: I think about this year, right and everybody keeps talking

963
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: about and how they can't wait till it's over. I

964
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: heard it again on the radio this morning, like, oh,

965
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: only two more months until this horrible year is over.

966
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: And I just feel like people are in for such

967
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: a rude awakening, because I really do think that people

968
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: are clinging to the idea that on New Year's Eve

969
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: at midnight, suddenly all of our problems are going to

970
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: go away, and you're gonna wake up on New Year's

971
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Day with the exact same life that you had on

972
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: New Year's Ease. And this year, this really hard year

973
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: of is not the only hard year you're gonna live

974
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: in the rest of your life. Like, sit with that

975
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: for a minute, because I feel like people are like,

976
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I just got to get through this thing. Well, great,

977
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: what's going to happen three years from now, when something

978
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: even more terrible happens to you or someone you love.

979
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna look back on how you handle this moment,

980
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: this year, this hardship, and you're gonna ask yourself, did

981
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: you step up, did you do what needed to be done,

982
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: did you keep going? Or did you pull the covers

983
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: over your head and and hope that something was going

984
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: to change? You know, it's really interesting when I hear

985
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: you talk like that, and because you know you you

986
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: you you live a life where you are moll You're

987
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: just a regular person who just happens to be a visionary.

988
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: And that's why when I ever hear people talking about

989
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Those people are looking at them and

990
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I have to walk away because my mindset and your

991
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: mindset is already deep into If that's what planners do.

992
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: You can't make money thinking thirty days cycle. You're thinking

993
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: six months in a year because you you think about rent,

994
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: you think about budgets. That's how you plus how you

995
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: plan success. People were thinking thirty days out. They're just

996
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: people who are just in that rat wheel. They just

997
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: rolling just to pay that bill, pay the light bill,

998
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: and you can never save money like that. And when

999
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're trying to do

1000
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: with your life and what I've done with my life,

1001
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: is that we're just trying to win, and we're trying

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Speaker 1: to win with advice on how you can win two

1003
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Speaker 1: And that's the nice part about your brand. That's why

1004
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: I associated so much with the way I think we're

1005
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Speaker 1: just doing in different ways. You know, you're being a female,

1006
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm being a male, but we're all trying to get

1007
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: people to step up. But it was interesting. I've done

1008
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: this interview with h re Bill you h called impact Theory,

1009
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: and it went by, it went fack and it went viral,

1010
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: and I was I was walking into a Whole Foods

1011
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: and this guy walked up to me and he when

1012
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: you change my life. You know, I'm trying to give

1013
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: me some peanuts. Okay, I'm trying to give me some peanuts. Right,

1014
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: this guy walks up to me. So you're Sean McDonald, right,

1015
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, he said you changed my life. I

1016
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: didn't know what he was talking about. And I and

1017
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: I take that back to you in your book when

1018
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about Slate walked up to you just exposed

1019
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: a life in front of your son, and you're trying

1020
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: to figure out you know, this is a lifestyle that

1021
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: you know that you requested, but you didn't expect the

1022
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: results to all this. And so so when I get

1023
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: these moments, you know, do catch me off. God, even

1024
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: though I know that I'm an award winning baker, and

1025
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: so people have walked out. I'll be in the airport,

1026
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: people go, there's my man, he can bake. I go, yeah,

1027
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know, yeah that's right, because I do

1028
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: post baking cupcakes on my on my social media, so

1029
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: they should be able to recognize that. So how do

1030
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: you deal with the unexpected even though you know you

1031
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: should expect that? I guess the question I'm trying to

1032
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: get to you, Rachel, to respond to. You know, I

1033
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: I think like, honestly, when you reach a new level

1034
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: of success, you don't know what the heck is going on, right,

1035
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: You're like, whoa, this is wild? And you know I

1036
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: do talk about this in the book. It was very

1037
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: overwhelming for me to come to terms with it, and

1038
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: I finally, did you know, I spent months kind of

1039
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: vacillating between honestly, do I want to do this? Which

1040
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: sounds well, I don't know how it sounds, but I

1041
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: really thought, like, are you are you capable of handling

1042
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: this much? Um like, honestly like holding that space for

1043
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: other people, are carrying other people's stories or showing up

1044
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: in this way. And it took me a long time

1045
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: to come to terms and to step into it. And

1046
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you practically, and I don't know if this

1047
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: will help your listeners, but this is definitely something for

1048
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: other people who have any kind of a platform. I

1049
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: honestly made a decision that if I was going to

1050
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: continue to do this work, if I am in public,

1051
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: I am ready to be there for other people. So

1052
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, no, especially in COVID, nobody

1053
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: stops me right like I'm like, I've got a mask on.

1054
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't even know it's me. They nobody stops me.

1055
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: But I get stopped. And when I get stopped, it's

1056
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: not hey, I love your work. It tends to be

1057
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: something much more in depth or much more emotional because

1058
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: of the kind of things that I talked about and

1059
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: right about. And in that moment, I just think, like

1060
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: I want to show up for this community. I want

1061
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: to do the very best I can for them. I

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Speaker 1: went on a run this morning at the lake, which

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Speaker 1: is sacred practice for me, and I was running and

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Speaker 1: someone you know, started yelling my name. Now I could

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Speaker 1: so I got air pods and I could just keep

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Speaker 1: on renning and pretend that I didn't hear that person

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Speaker 1: behind me. But again, if if I'm going to do this,

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Speaker 1: then I have to be in community with these people,

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Speaker 1: and I have to be grateful for that. And I

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Speaker 1: want those women, especially to know that I see them.

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Speaker 1: And so I turned around and ran back to her

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Speaker 1: name was Andrea, looked her in the eye, heard her story,

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Speaker 1: want you know, gave her a moment, and then we

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Speaker 1: just kept I just kept on running because that's what

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Speaker 1: this is. So for me, like I said, it helped

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Speaker 1: me to prepare myself for the fact that I don't

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: know if I'm going to get stopped, but if I am,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have been blessed with this platform.

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Speaker 1: Now I've worked my butt off to get here. But

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Speaker 1: I also believe that God gave me this opportunity. And

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Speaker 1: if I believe that someone greater, something greater than me,

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Speaker 1: gave me this moment, this opportunity, this community of of

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00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: fans and readers, then I am going to own that

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00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: responsibility and be present for them if they have a

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00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: moment with me out in the world. UM agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rachel Hollis. Hey, Rachel, Okay, that's what.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming like that, I didn't see

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Speaker 1: that coming. Uh you know, Rachel. I I've managed Steve

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Speaker 1: Harvey for like sixteen years of infect you tho one

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Speaker 1: a good friends and two thousand he was a very

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Speaker 1: popular comedian and and then I did did the family

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Speaker 1: if you do? I did the Hoppercolin deals with the

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Speaker 1: books that so millions worldwide, was translated in over thirty

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Speaker 1: different languages, and in each step that went along, more

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Speaker 1: fame came his way. And I just got to watch.

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Speaker 1: So I when I hear your story, I look back

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00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: and reflect because I truly understand what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And he stepped along the way. He used to fight it.

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Speaker 1: He used to fight that that that massive amount of

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Speaker 1: fame that came and the responsibility that came with that

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Speaker 1: fame and defining what was Hiver? What was his role

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Speaker 1: in all of this? Sorry, I remember you know, in

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Speaker 1: in twenty nine, two thousand nine, the book Think Like

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Speaker 1: Act Like They Think Like a Man came out. You know,

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Speaker 1: so three many coples. We were on Oprah, like regular

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Speaker 1: on Oprah. We so sixty books in one day while

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Speaker 1: sitting on Oprah. And uh, and you know that's a

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Speaker 1: massive amount of books to sell. And uh and then

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Speaker 1: UH and then and then and then I did the

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Speaker 1: family few deals. So we kind of crossed over. We

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Speaker 1: went from a very popular black comedy in to uh.

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Speaker 1: The comedian who was being recognized as the people thought

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Speaker 1: that was a joke, a black comedian talking about relationships,

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Speaker 1: and they just exploded worldwide. And then with the family feud,

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Speaker 1: and we was crossing over, you know, even though our

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Speaker 1: talk show, and then the talk show launched in twelve

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Speaker 1: and so I remember, Ineen, we was walking in Chicago

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Speaker 1: and it's large group of from the Asian community came

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Speaker 1: over and they couldn't speak English, law, but they knew

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Speaker 1: who he was. And I went, I looked at him.

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Speaker 1: I said, Steve, your life would never be the same, brother,

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, they can't even speak English and

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Speaker 1: they know who Yeah, they know who you are. And

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Speaker 1: it has not been the same every since. And and

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Speaker 1: I recognized what you're saying, because you know, Rachel, You're

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Speaker 1: only gonna get bigger. You're you're you're introducing yourself from

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Speaker 1: your brand to my market. My markets are predominant African

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Speaker 1: American marketent of my followers are female. I think that

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Speaker 1: just like the way I bake. But of course I

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Speaker 1: think I done that motivate them to be successful because

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Speaker 1: they are entrepreneurs. I'm really big and pushing entrepreneurs both

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Speaker 1: male and female. And my my whole volume of money

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Speaker 1: making conversation. But when I when I read your book,

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Speaker 1: my biggest takeaway is that you know your mom and

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Speaker 1: and it's the testament how women are becoming such an

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur or force in our society today. When I look

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00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: at women, you shouldn't you have to, you can't wait

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00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: till one, because they're a bigger opportunities for one. I

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Speaker 1: always believe this. My statement is that the COVID, as

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Speaker 1: bad as it is, allowed me to catch up. It

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Speaker 1: allowed me to level the plan field. Once I got

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Speaker 1: over the shock of the reality that Okay, my life

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: is gonna change forever. And I didn't know how many

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Speaker 1: gloves I had to take to the grocery store. I

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: didn't know if I needed the master. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: if I touched the gas pumper? Should should like? Should

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Speaker 1: like the parail? You can find that on the store?

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Speaker 1: What could I wash my hands? When once I got

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Speaker 1: over that shock, Rachel, I was good. I was good. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: And I think for for this is always true for

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and business owners that I have such a heart

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: for this community as well, because I've been a business

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Speaker 1: owner for seventeen years. And what I know to be

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Speaker 1: true is where we're not at the end of this

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01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: if we found a cure today, we still would deal

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Speaker 1: with the economic fallout from what has happened for years.

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Speaker 1: And I don't say that to freak people out. I

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Speaker 1: say it because as leaders and as business owners, we

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Speaker 1: have to be aware. It's not something to have fear about.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. What do I need to do to make

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Speaker 1: sure me and my team, me and my family are good.

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01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: How do I need to show up? How do I

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Speaker 1: need to pivot? How do I need to serve the community,

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Speaker 1: the customer, the clients that I have so that I

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Speaker 1: can continue to grow, so that I can continue to expand.

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Speaker 1: I think we've all seen this. We've seen businesses who

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Speaker 1: have not been able to handle the pressure, and we've

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Speaker 1: seen businesses that have pivoted. Like you know, I live

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Speaker 1: in Austin, right, so I remember Tito's Tito's vodka, which

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Speaker 1: is my favorite saying to mix into the cockstail um.

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Speaker 1: When it first happened, you saw all of these liquor companies,

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Speaker 1: they were like, all right, we're making hand sanitizer. Now.

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Speaker 1: We just saw We saw restaurants that had never ever

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Speaker 1: had driver figure out how to do delivery or curbside.

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Speaker 1: We we just saw. I love it because we've seen

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Speaker 1: the human spirit. We've seen the human spirit show up

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Speaker 1: again and again. And you know, I think about this

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Speaker 1: a lot because I have pivoted. I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: pivoted twenty times since March. You know, my my business

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Speaker 1: was predominantly from live events. That I can't do anymore,

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Speaker 1: and that you know, you peer hands over that that's

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01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: a that's a punch in the face and you can

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01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: sort of sit down. And so many people, so many

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: people were like, just you know, closed down this thing,

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Speaker 1: just get rid of this thing. And I'm like, nope,

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Speaker 1: I will find a way. And So what I would

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Speaker 1: say to those of you who are listening, who you've

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Speaker 1: got that side hustle, you've got that business, you're you're

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Speaker 1: you're trying to grow and expand you have got to

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Speaker 1: stay focused on where you are going. You have got

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Speaker 1: to fill up your cup only with the words and

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Speaker 1: the inspiration of people who are thinking like you are thinking,

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Speaker 1: meaning like, go watch those motivational videos on YouTube. Go

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts that are going to inspire you. Because

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Speaker 1: if you listen to the world, if you listen to

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Speaker 1: maybe your mama, your friends, maybe your spouse. People are

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Speaker 1: so scared right now and their fear will take hold

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Speaker 1: of your heart if you let it, and so I

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Speaker 1: just keep my is on the horizon. I keep my

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Speaker 1: eyes on the horizon. I know where I'm going. I

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Speaker 1: do not let other people speak their fear into my heart.

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01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: And I stay focused because the biggest some of the

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Speaker 1: biggest companies in the world were built inside of a recession.

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: And if you can just keep your eyes on where

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: you are going, to keep doing the work, keep expanding

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: the ways that you need to expand you will come

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Speaker 1: out the other side of this stronger and you will

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Speaker 1: have surpassed people who couldn't stay in the fight. So

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Speaker 1: just keep focused on where you're going and keep going.

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Speaker 1: My friend thirty minutes. Okay, our relationship has been flying

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Speaker 1: along and it means we've been a great interview or

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Speaker 1: Rachel Hollis new book. Didn't see that coming, HarperCollins. I

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Speaker 1: made a lot of money with Happercollins, so I know

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Speaker 1: they've known me over there. Three number one best sellers there.

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Speaker 1: We kept them in business there, and I think in

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Speaker 1: two thou nine. But again, thanks for coming to my show.

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Speaker 1: I hope well off you be a regular on my show,

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Speaker 1: and like, thank you You're amazing. Uh, we are, you know.

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Speaker 1: We we obviously grew up differently, obviously your agendas are differently,

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Speaker 1: but I so relate to what you are experiencing, what

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01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to say to my audience as well as

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Speaker 1: to your audience. And uh, again the future is on outside.

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Speaker 1: And uh the future means we always speak to each

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Speaker 1: other again in the future. Thank you Rachel for coming.

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Speaker 1: My next guest, Ashley M. Fox is a former Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Analysts at Howard University graduate HBCU and an expert

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Speaker 1: in the field as a financial education specialist. After helping

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Speaker 1: manage money for both millionaires and billionaires during her career

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Speaker 1: on Wall Street, Ashley quite a job and started the

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Speaker 1: whole company Emplathy Emplafi mersion of the words empower and

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Speaker 1: modify is is a financial ad tech startup that was

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Speaker 1: created to show both adults and children how to build wealth.

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Speaker 1: Since Emplathile has reached thousands of individuals and his programs

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Speaker 1: have been implemented over fifty different schools and organizations across

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Speaker 1: the country. Her working story have been featured on Jim

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Speaker 1: Cramer's The Street, Y'all Who Finance, Rolling Out magazine, Philly

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Fox News, ABC, Huffington Post, Glamor Magazine and Force.

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Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversations. Ashley M. Fox,

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Speaker 1: How are you? How are you? Did I missing the thing? Actually,

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Speaker 1: because you know you got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Did I miss anything? You know? I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure everybody know you are the ball, you know when

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Speaker 1: it comes to what we're about talking about. You know,

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of people on the show that

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Speaker 1: they kind of have the credits they you know, they

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Speaker 1: have thrown some credits out there, but you your credits

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Speaker 1: all at the top of the food chain credits there.

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you feel about that? When you

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Speaker 1: when you know you're out there working in your brand,

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: because that's what it's all about. You gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: get game respect for your brand, and you have to

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: put it out there so people can know about your brand.

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01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: Because you left Wall Street, tell about tell us about

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Speaker 1: just update. I mentioned that in the credits updates about

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Speaker 1: how did you make that decision? Because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are afraid when they leave in a solid bage

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Speaker 1: to something that's not so clear. I think for me, one,

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01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be an entrepreneur. I always wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a profound African American on Wall Street. So

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Speaker 1: so after being there, ultimately my goal was to do

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Speaker 1: something bigger and better. I think working on Wall Street,

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Speaker 1: I worked a millionaires and millionaire so if you had

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Speaker 1: at least twenty five million dollars, it was our job

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Speaker 1: to manage your money. And after a while, where you

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01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: are working with millionaires and billionaires and you realize that

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Speaker 1: you deserve to be just like the client, when you're

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Speaker 1: on the other end of the table, you realize you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get there serving the wealthy people. And

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Speaker 1: for me, I always actually wanted to be a teacher.

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Speaker 1: I just never became a teacher who because in my

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Speaker 1: mind I felt like teachers didn't make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: So if I wanted to make a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: I needed to major in the subjective money and I

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Speaker 1: needed to work on Wall Street. But after a while,

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Speaker 1: I felt like that the things that I was learning,

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: what I was getting exposed. So I saw where people

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: were spending their money, where they were traveling, where they

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: were living, what they were investing in, And I felt

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Speaker 1: like you shouldn't have to come from money work and

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01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: finance major and finance to learn how to manage save

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Speaker 1: and invest your money. And so ultimately I just got

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Speaker 1: to a point where I had a feeling and something

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: was out there, bigger and better, and I did take

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Speaker 1: that leap. It wasn't the easiest thing I did. I

1285
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: did lose a lot along the way, But for me,

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: it was it was It wasn't about the money anymore.

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: Was about what was the inside of me saying what

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: was what was my calling? And I knew that I

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: was there for something bigger. I think you can rich

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01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: people rich, wasn't it. But I needed that experience to

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01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: make sure that I had the tools and resources to

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: educate people who did not get the same exposure that

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Speaker 1: I was giving. Now do you know because I'm driven

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01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: my money? I think everybody is driven my money. I

1295
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: remember I went to college my degrees in mathematics and

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,439
Speaker 1: started out and civil engineering because I felt that would

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01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: pay me the most money. That I realized that wasn't

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01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: my calling, and eventually my degree was in mathematics, my miners,

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01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: and sociology. Do you driven by Are you driven my

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01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: money or you driven about the opportunity to make money?

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm driven about either, to be honest,

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm a big proponent of just knowing that

1303
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: success makes noise, because I remember even when I left

1304
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: my Ball Street career, people were like, you left from

1305
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: working with millionaires and billionaires to work with people who

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: don't have money, and it made me feel like I

1307
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: was crazy, But in all actually I was just like yes.

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: And for me, I created a space. I mean, we

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: all say we don't learn about financial education and schools,

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: but nobody really wants to go put it into the

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: school system because it's not the nor For me, it

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01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: was like, this has to happen, This will happen, and

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01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to figure out how to make your work.

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: And then I started to make money. So for me,

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: I chose happiness over money. And the more I focused

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: on serving people, the more I focused on doing what

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: I felt was my purpose you driven life, calling um,

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: the more money started to come to me. So I

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01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: created a space where I would go pitch schools and

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Speaker 1: find out how they ran their schools, understanding how they

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: ran their budgets, to say, hey, let me teach financial

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01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: education to these students. But I think I created a

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: need that was once there, but no one knew how

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01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: to provide that need. And so and all honestly tasting money.

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: When I didn't, I wasn't happy. So and I realized,

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 1: let me just do what makes actually happy. And it

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: got rather wake up every single day doing what I love,

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01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: doing what I love in serving the people. That our

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01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: third opportunities come to me so much more than when

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: I was just looking to make money. And I think

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: also to when you're just looking to make money, people

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01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: can feel that like I can't teach financial education to

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: people who don't have a lot of money and then

1334
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: looking to make money off of them. Now it defeats

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: the whole purpose of me serving the world that I

1336
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: felt like God put me here to serve. And so

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01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: I found that the more I served, the bigger the

1338
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: opportunities got. The bigger the opportunities got, the more people

1339
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: saw that it worked, and the more successful I became.

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Ashley and Fox. He's a financial education specialist.

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: We've been about two years since we spoken Ashley, and

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: now the whole your curriculum in schools as elevated or

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: fifty different schools. Now, that's ironic that you said you

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be a school teacher and you left to

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 1: be in finance and now you're back to implementing school.

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: So you basically are doing what you wanted to do,

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: but you are continuing controlling the tone, the tone of

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, in other words, you know you created quickly

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01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 1: that the values, your passion, and now you're teaching it

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01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: as a school teacher would teach your brand and educate

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01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: the masses like you wanted to dot wanted to do.

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: And so when you when you when you talk about

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 1: young people, what is the difference that you find the

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: most unique when you're talking to young people about money

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: and talking to adults about money. I think working with kids,

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: there's there. Okay, so when you're an adult, we were

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01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: once that child where possibilities were infinite. Once that that

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01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: child who thought we could do, be and have everything.

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: And the more we grow up include including our experiences

1360
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: growing up with our parents and our environment, society, the news.

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01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: We then we then don't feel like it's possible. So

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01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: we feel like we have to go to work every

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: single day because we have to say bills. That dream

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: of being happy no longer exists because we feel like

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: we gotta do what we gotta do. Working with the child,

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 1: the possibilities are infinite, shifting their mindset is infinite, and

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: I think there's less conditioning when you deal with the

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01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 1: child than it is with the deult. Now it's not

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: impossible within the deult, you just gotta break through a

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: lot more barriers because they've been told no too many times,

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01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: they've been afraid too often. Whereas a child, they still

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: believe it's possible. A child hasn't seen a bill, So

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: let me prepare you for what a bill looks like.

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: But then also show you how you can build wealth

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: like the people you idolize. But let me start early

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: so that you don't make the same mistakes that adults

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: have made in the past. Um So when all honestly,

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot easier to teach a child because

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: they believe, and also they they're there to learn. They

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 1: know they're coming to school to learn, where as adults

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: they're fear, there's doubt, there's worried, there's I don't have time.

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: A child, they don't have those excuses because essentially their kids,

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01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: they haven't gotten to that point in life where they

1384
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: where they would tell themselves no because society has told

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: them no too often. You know, that's really important that

1386
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: you say that I would tell people that when you

1387
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: look at their life when they here forty and fifty,

1388
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: that they're really, well, you don't know what you want

1389
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: to do with your life. Just look at look back

1390
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: when you were eighteen. You were fearless when you had

1391
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: dreams that like you stay that their dreams of the

1392
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: impossible until you started putting up these stop sign or

1393
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,839
Speaker 1: you got married, or you went off to the military assignment,

1394
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: or or you just your dreams or I can't do

1395
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: this because we are very self defeating a race of people.

1396
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: Once we reach a certain age, I'm not gonna try

1397
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: to do that. And that's what a lot of people

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: just kind of like give up to give up on

1399
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: how they look in the mirror they give them on

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: what they can do in the car they drive, the

1401
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: host that live, the neighborhood they live in. And that

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: really is true because as a young person, all you

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01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: see is what I could can be. And I always

1404
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: tell people I never tell a child what they can't be,

1405
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: not if they not if they can't sing, I'll tell them, hey,

1406
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: you know you can't sing. Now you need to stop

1407
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: all that madness. Okay, maybe you can wrap now, try

1408
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 1: wrap it, but you can't sing okay, and you know

1409
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: you can't dunk. But from a physical standpot, but from

1410
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: a mental standpoint, you you're unlimited on what you can

1411
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: do as long as you stand in of what you're

1412
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: capable of doing. And that's what you were just implemented

1413
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,879
Speaker 1: right there. That adults tend to doing the teaching process.

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: They got all these limitters that they keep putting in

1415
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: their brain. I don't have enough money do that, I

1416
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: don't have time to do that. Why would I want

1417
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: to do that? Why are you just telling them how?

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01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 1: They're telling themselves what they can't do. That's really distracted

1419
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,520
Speaker 1: when you're trying to teach people how to be successful.

1420
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: Can you can you can you can you get them

1421
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: to overcome that? Or you just lay down the plan

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01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: and some so I'm not gonna do it, and a

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: lot of are not gonna do it. So I'm a

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01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: firm believer that things are not taught, they're caught, and

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: I think when people are ready, they'll be open to it.

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01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 1: So one of the biggest things, and this is since

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: since I've left my Wall Street career, I've never solicited

1428
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: what I did. I never said, hey, I can show

1429
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: you how to make a bunch of money. Let me

1430
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: show you how to do this. I get people to

1431
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: a point where they're ready. They've exhausted all options, they've

1432
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: taken the classes they could take, they went to the bank,

1433
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: they try to learn everything possible, yet they don't feel

1434
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: connected to the people that are providing the information that

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: they need. And they get to a point where they say, Okay,

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated being frustrated, but I know I deserve to

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: make a change. And ultimately that's why the word empathied

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: was community because it's one thing to give people education,

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: but in all honesty, everything we teach you can google it,

1440
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: But the real question is why don't we take that

1441
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: information off of Google and actually implements it. That means

1442
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: that there's a mental barrier that is stopping us from

1443
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: executing on the information we have access to. And I

1444
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: think it's one thing to get information, but it's also

1445
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: another thing to get that with inspiration. And so that's

1446
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: where the empower part of emplithied comes in the first

1447
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 1: three letters are emp that comes from empower because I

1448
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,560
Speaker 1: can give you the resources, but I need you to

1449
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: feel empowered to know that you can do something with

1450
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: these resources, no matter where you are, no matter how

1451
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: much you have, it is still possible. And then ultimately,

1452
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: when you have that inspiration, you have the tools and resources,

1453
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: it then changes the way you see yourself in the

1454
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: role of money in your life, which is where modified

1455
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: comes from, because that's where the change takes place. And

1456
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: so ultimately we start with the mind. If I can

1457
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: change your mind, I can change your bank account. So

1458
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: we focus on your thought process. We know what you feel,

1459
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: we know what you're dreaming of, we know what what's

1460
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for you, and we literally do the complete opposite

1461
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: of that. And then once we do that, give you

1462
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: the tools and resources, and then you realize, hey, I

1463
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: actually we can do this. Hey maybe these beliefs that

1464
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 1: I have are not mine. Maybe society put them in

1465
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: my mind, maybe my parents gave me these fears, but

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01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: they're not my narrative. And so we take those narratives

1467
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: and those beliefs that we change the thinking behind the

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: person with the money, and once you have the tools

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: and resources, you go running after that. Ashley and fox Um,

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01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: you know when I InterVID you a couple of years ago,

1471
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: you was a bad girl. Back then he was a

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: bad You're on fire. Now you're on fire. I'm just

1473
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: listening to you going this girl here is you know,

1474
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: because we all learned. I've learned, I've grown, I've grown

1475
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: as an interview I've grown as a person my brain.

1476
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: I know exactly where my brand is and pushing it

1477
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And I'm listening to a person

1478
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: who's really focused, who knows. And I'm not saying you

1479
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't focus when our first interview, but you won't fire now.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what makes you have such a strong comference

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Speaker 1: zone and how did you get to this point to

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: be as comfortable as I'm hearing you speak now? And

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Speaker 1: as I've been following your brand on social media every

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: time the article pops up, I reading about Ashley and

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01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: Fox tell this whole march too. And I know you're

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: not there where you're trying to get, but I do

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01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: notice a different tone, a different message being spoken by

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Speaker 1: Ashley and Fox. Am I right? Absolutely? Um? I think,

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Speaker 1: I think I think as the as I grow, the

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Speaker 1: company rules. I think There's been a lot of years

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Speaker 1: of spiritual internal words, a lot of years of therapy. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: and to be honest, me recognizing what my beliefs were

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Speaker 1: right one of the biggest things that I've noticed is

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Speaker 1: while I can sit and say, hey, I want to

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Speaker 1: be a millionaire, the ideas having a million dollars actually

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Speaker 1: frightens me. Right, So there's times where I want to

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Speaker 1: have big dreams, but when I'm presented with the opportunity,

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01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: I get scared. Remember when I got my first six

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Speaker 1: figure contract, it was just this mind blowing experience, but

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Speaker 1: it was like, hey, you can't sit here and say

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Speaker 1: you want to be a billionaire and you're afraid to

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Speaker 1: catch a check for over a hundred thousand dollars or So.

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01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: I think as I break through my mental barriers, as

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01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: I do more, the company rules right along with me.

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: So I personally do not teach anything that I do

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01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: not do or have not done. And it's a lot

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01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: easier because it's not just about I read a book

1508
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: and I learned how to teach individuals how to invest

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01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: in stocks. It's no, this is how I started, this

1510
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 1: is what I've learned, and this is what I do.

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Speaker 1: And let me try to understand you to make it,

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: to make it easier for you to understand it. So

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Speaker 1: I think the more I grow, the bigger I get,

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Speaker 1: the more people I served, so we recently we recently

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Speaker 1: UM launched our wealth Builters community AT. I would have

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Speaker 1: never envised me being a black woman in tech right,

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: but every morning I would wake up, go into the

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Speaker 1: mirror and say, you are You are the owner of

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01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: a of an at tech startup. You are the owner

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Speaker 1: of an app that impacts thousands of people from all

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Speaker 1: over the world. And then when it happened, it was

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh is here. But it wasn't

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Speaker 1: about something that I wanted. It was about who I was.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a firm believer you don't attract what you want,

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01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: you attract who you are. So when I started to

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Speaker 1: believe I deserve six figure contracts, when I started to

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Speaker 1: look at a hundred thousand dollars like it wasn't a

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: lot of money, that's when the money started to come faster.

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01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: But what I was afraid, the money was coming slower.

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Speaker 1: When I was afraid I would lose money, money was

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Speaker 1: coming slower. But if I knew that I was gonna

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Speaker 1: keep going, that this was gonna work and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: change the world. When I change my thinking, the company changes.

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Speaker 1: So I think again. As I grow, the company grows

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Speaker 1: the bigger I get, the company gets, and not just

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Speaker 1: me as an individual or a brand, but my thought

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Speaker 1: process like understanding that hey, we can make a quarter

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Speaker 1: million dollars in a month and saying that doesn't frighten

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Speaker 1: me anymore, right, but at one point making ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars in a month that scared me. At one point.

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Speaker 1: Now it's like I can't pay my bills with ten

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Speaker 1: tho dollars. We gotta do bigger team, We gotta get

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Speaker 1: better team. But the more people we impact, the bigger

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Speaker 1: the business get to. So I focus on serving the

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Speaker 1: people because if we could serve a billion people, we

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Speaker 1: could make a billion dollars. And now I'm figuring out

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald. You know, when we started

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Speaker 1: this interview actually said how many minutes that guy? Because see,

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Speaker 1: you know she got something to say. Now, I'm so

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Speaker 1: impressed with your tone and your leadership in this call,

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Speaker 1: because that's all I want from individuals who called me

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Speaker 1: on money making Conversation for their message to be heard.

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Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right unless you believe in something. I

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Speaker 1: know for years, Ashley, as successful as I have been

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Speaker 1: in my life, it wasn't into my forties that I

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Speaker 1: realized that I accepted my success based on who I

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Speaker 1: was and what I was capable doing. I just used

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01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: phrases like right place, right time, just lucky, I know somebody,

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Speaker 1: you knock on wood, all those corny phrases that have

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01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with being successful, and people use them

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01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: all the time. And what those phrases do. They limit

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01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: your capabilities and also limit you and knowledge of what

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Speaker 1: you really are capable of doing. And I like you.

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01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: I remember in five Steve Harvey now jam thing, but

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Speaker 1: we need a concert and the Music Hall in Houston, Texas.

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01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: And I was my first concert that I ever promoted,

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: and I had to write a check to Steve for

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01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: fifty seven thousand dollars and that's five and I went,

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01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe I was writing that check, just like

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01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: you couldn't believe you had a six figure and and

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01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: and the thing about this is that once you believe

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01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: and understand that this is part of your life, part

1596
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: of your mantra, part of your mentality, then guess what,

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01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: you can write another check like that. But if you

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01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: stop and disbelief and awe and get giddy, like this

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01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: is not normal. And that's all she's saying right now.

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Speaker 1: This is the normal way she thinks. Now she the

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Speaker 1: people that she was doing these twenty five million dollars

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01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: and these billion dollar deals with, and all these people

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01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: around believe me, they think a certain way. And I

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01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: think a certain way too, because guess what, I'm successful.

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01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: So I go on the grocery store. I don't know.

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01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: If I have a coupon, I use it. I'll tell

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01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: you that I use it. But guess what, I'm just

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01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: going to grow store and shop. And in fact, sometimes

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01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: I walked out of the grocery store. Other day I didn't.

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01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: I didn't even know how much I pay for groceries.

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01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: I just gave my credit card. Because that's not part

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01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: of my mantra the world about how much I'm gonna spend.

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: It's the fact that I have money that can buy it.

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01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: And that is the mantra that people have to do.

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01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: As an adult, you get to that point you start saying,

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Speaker 1: I can't live in this type of house, I can't

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01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: drive this because I because because what I don't have

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01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: the tax money, I don't well, what's gonna happen next year? Well,

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't think like that be successful people playing next year,

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01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: they don't think what's not gonna happen next year? If

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01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: you plan next year, I'm a six month, I'm a year.

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01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: The average person thinks thirty days. And you cannot be

1623
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: successful thinking in thirty days increments in your life because

1624
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: it means you worry about the rent, You worry bout

1625
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: stuff that you actually should be controlling by planning. And

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01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to bring you back on the show,

1627
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: because the mentality you've always talked about hasn't been about planning.

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: Correct m h in a bullet, don't forget a bullet.

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01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: And with that being said, this has been the pandemic year.

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01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: You know, the show us down find that. I know

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01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: you've been busy. I know people have been asking you

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01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: how to how to budget, how to save money? How

1633
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: can you invest in the pandemic? And the wild thing

1634
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: about the stock Barkeet is actually when this pandemic hit

1635
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: in March, it crashed. But the spark Barker has said

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: some records this year as far as it's a lot

1637
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: of millionaires, and billionaire's pretty happy out there during the pandemic.

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01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: How do you invest during the pandemic? Ashley and Fox, So, honestly,

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: I think, well in two thousand and eight was the

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01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: most outside of the stock market crash was the previous

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01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: stock market crash, and I was in college and I

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01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: remember watching the news not fully understanding is this is fact.

1643
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: When I was I think it was a junior in college.

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: I was a junior in stock work, and I realized

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01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: that it was something going on. It's exciting the watch,

1646
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: and I wasn't fully clear. As I got educated with

1647
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: the stance market, I realized, the next time the market crashes,

1648
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to go in because the way I look

1649
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 1: at crashes, I look at it like it's a Black

1650
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 1: Friday sale. Everything drops in price, and in all honesty,

1651
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: that is the only time we see red and we panic.

1652
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: If we walk into a store and we see red,

1653
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: we know that's on sale, we want to buy it.

1654
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: But when we see red in the stock market, we

1655
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: get frightened. And I think when the stock market crash,

1656
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: and again, it had every right in the crash because

1657
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: there was so much uncertainty. We had no idea what's

1658
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: going to happen? But because of that, I also had

1659
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: to ask myself our companies like an Apple, or Walmart

1660
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: grocery store and Amazon? Are all these companies gonna go

1661
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: out of business because we are in quarantine when in fact,

1662
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: let's be smart. While restaurants maybe taking a hit, what

1663
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: are we doing more of with more on our phones?

1664
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Were doing more social media, We're watching more of television.

1665
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: We have to go to the grocery store. So immediately

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: I took my thought process. It's like who's winning right now?

1667
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 1: Who's going to come out of this strong? Because everybody

1668
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: took a hit. But in my mind, these companies, with

1669
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: time will go back up and living. My portfolio is

1670
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: up over a hundred percent because when I saw the

1671
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to buy at a cheap price, I took advantage

1672
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: of it. And so whether the market crashes, whether the

1673
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: market is up, you have to sit and ask yourself

1674
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: why am I investing? Is this for? And who do

1675
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll be on top. It doesn't take

1676
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: a rocket scientist for somebody to know that every time

1677
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: Apple releases iPhone in September, right before the holidays, people

1678
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: stand in line and then taking rocket scientist to know

1679
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: that while there are many sneaker companies out there, the

1680
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: number one sneaker company in the world is Nike. Right

1681
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: their sales were of two online sales during the pandemic.

1682
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: So while the news is telling us people are are

1683
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: out of jobs, people aren't spending money. They are spending

1684
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: money because we don't have anything else to do but

1685
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: to be on our phones and to use technology. And

1686
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: so there are companies that are winning. And I think

1687
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 1: you always have to look for the opportunity versus operating fear,

1688
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: because there's tons of ways to take advantage of this pandemic.

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01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: But in all, actually, I think it's one of the

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01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: best things about this pandemic is that it caused everybody

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01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: to be still. It helps us realize you can't depend

1692
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: on the government, you can't depend on your job. Therefore

1693
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: you have to depend on yourself, and yourself is good enough.

1694
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: We've always been good enough. And I think when we

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01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: shift the mindset in turn the TV all you see

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01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity. Because everything happens for a reason.

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01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: We just have to see that reason as an opportunity

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01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: for us to become better both mentally and financially. And

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01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: with that being said, what's something This may be a

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01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: general question now and if you say, rash, I don't

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01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: want to respond to that. What what? What was some

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01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: of the mistakes? Did you think that as you know,

1703
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: we're giving opportunities through the Cares Act and apply for

1704
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: different funds and you know a lot of a lot

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: of people did, a lot of people didn't? But did anyone?

1706
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: Were there anything that people should have done that they

1707
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: didn't do during the pandemic that would have helped him

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01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: out a little bit financially? Um, when I think we

1709
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: should have turned to television off like in all honestly,

1710
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: if you really think about what's on the news, you

1711
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: hear about talk, you hear about the colonavirus, and you

1712
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: hear about black crime or crimes done on black people.

1713
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: Other than that, there's nothing in the news. Nothing, So

1714
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: understanding that when I watched these things in the new

1715
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: is what feelings do they invoke? Because if it's not

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01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: causing you to feel joy, then you don't need to

1717
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: consume it because the more you internalize it, the more

1718
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: you're going to manifest more of it. And so I

1719
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is because we were sitting in

1720
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: the house. We had a television. We were forced to

1721
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: consume because we can't go about and do our normal

1722
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: day to day things. But I think the biggest thing

1723
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: that I think people really didn't pay attention to, what's

1724
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: the fact that this wasn't a time of panic. This

1725
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: was a time to start over. This was the time

1726
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: to reevaluate, This was a time to get educated, This

1727
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: was the time to follow that dream that you've been

1728
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: putting off. And I think instead of focusing on how

1729
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: can I become better, all we thought about is how

1730
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: this is making the situation worse. And you saw that

1731
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: in in so many people, just even on social media.

1732
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 1: But it was just like in my mind, it was

1733
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: like immediately was okay, what does the world need from

1734
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: us right now? And in the midst of the pandemic,

1735
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: we made the most money we ever made it a

1736
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: company in the company because we sat and thought, what

1737
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 1: do people need from us right now? Where can people

1738
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: get educated right now? How and we serve people right now.

1739
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's come out with our app right now because people

1740
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 1: are sitting at home, they need something to do. But

1741
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: let's now instill greatness in these people. Let's give them

1742
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 1: the education that they can't get in their school system.

1743
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Let's given the tools and resources you can't find on

1744
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: your time model or or on your television, how can

1745
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: we rewire their brain at a point where all we

1746
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: have is their their attention because there's nothing else for

1747
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: them to do. And I think people focusing on the

1748
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: opportunity is what would have gotten us made us a

1749
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: lot strong. And there are a lot of people who

1750
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: who did great things during the pandemic, but there are

1751
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people who every day they woke up,

1752
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: they were they were scared, they want to lose their job,

1753
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: they were afraid that their similar checks wouldn't come on time.

1754
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: It's like, we can't live in fear because that's all

1755
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: we're surrounded by. We have to literally unlearned what we

1756
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: have been taught to learn that society and our upbringings

1757
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: has given has given. Us. Really, it's really good that

1758
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: you're saying those things because I just love an interview

1759
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: and you you just really just confirm a lot of

1760
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: things that I'm doing. I just like talking us more

1761
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: people because I you this time, when the pandemic hit,

1762
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,560
Speaker 1: I used it to really look at my brand. You know,

1763
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: really the first quarter was identifying my brand. The second

1764
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: quarter was bringing in legal to protect my brand, making

1765
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: sure all my my my tied correctly. Then that make

1766
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: sure my social media lunch a new platform called HBC

1767
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: Awards doing the pandemic. And in the third quarter, I

1768
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: bought a office building in Atlanta. All this, all this

1769
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: stuff was happened during the pandemic because I knew in

1770
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, guess what, this country is gonna go

1771
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: to a new normal and we need to be and

1772
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: were reopened and we need I need to be functioned

1773
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: in the manner. So now I'm more organized and more

1774
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: confident than I've ever been. And it's basically tied what

1775
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: you're just saying. You don't play during the disaster, You

1776
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: don't unplay, you playing when things look bad, you don't run.

1777
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 1: You figure out how to survive. And so a lot

1778
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: of people they run and then they hide. And then

1779
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: when other people who don't hide see the opportunity to succeed.

1780
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: And that's what you just keep repeating over and over

1781
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 1: in such a strong manner. But that's why you built

1782
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 1: our the brand amplify which is in power and modify

1783
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 1: e MPs. In power, I find is the back end

1784
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: to modify and when you look at all these things,

1785
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about your app. And

1786
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: also you hit it a lot the build the wealth

1787
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: Builders community talk a little bit about that so we

1788
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: can get a good feel and also how can we

1789
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: download that, and also any webinars you have coming up

1790
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: as well as I always like to use your middle names.

1791
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: She kind of like, forget it some time through UM,

1792
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: so our well fuld this community at UM. You can

1793
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: literally go to wealth Builders Community dot com and you

1794
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: can see everything that we offer. So literally just imagine

1795
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: the Netflix of finance and the palm of your hand,

1796
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: so you can go to Netflix, you can find all

1797
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: the different types of entertainment. Imagine literally saying hey, I

1798
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: want to learn how to invest, where can I go?

1799
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 1: And it all is in your hands, literally lives in

1800
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: your account. But here's the beauty of it. You're now

1801
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: going through this journey not alone, but you're going through

1802
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: with thousands of people who are just like you from

1803
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 1: all over the world. And I think we can't at

1804
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: this point, we can't sit at the dinner table and

1805
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: talk about learning how to build well. We can't talk

1806
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: about how your stock portfolio was up. We don't talk

1807
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: about how we're investing for our keys to make sure

1808
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: that they're not kaking up Steven Long. We don't have

1809
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: these conversations specifically in the African American community, but this

1810
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: should be our norm because that is the norm of

1811
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: wealthy people. They're sitting on their yachts talking about big

1812
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: deals that they're closing, when in our actuality, that's why

1813
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: they continue to sustain their wealth. The conversation is different,

1814
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: the thought process is different, and so ultimately our wealth

1815
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: for this community is a is an intimate space where

1816
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: you can come together with people who are just like

1817
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 1: you on the same journey, both working professionals and entrepreneurs.

1818
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: Where you're learning how to build well, vibrating layer by layer,

1819
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: where you're celebrating for your successes when you learn, you're

1820
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: learning how to open an account, you're processing and transaction,

1821
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 1: but you're getting advice, tools and resources not only from

1822
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: experts but also people who have been in your shoes.

1823
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: But they are growing every single day because they made

1824
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: well building a choice, they made it a commitment, and

1825
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: that's ultimately what our community is about. So we have

1826
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: classes on a weekly basis. I mean we're literally about

1827
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: to launch our parent Accelerator because a lot of our

1828
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 1: members are parents, and it's during the time when it's

1829
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: holiday season Q four. We're spending tons of money. Companies

1830
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: are projected to make billions this holiday season. Why is

1831
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 1: it that we're making all these billion dollar businesses more

1832
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: money and we look up and we still feel like

1833
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: we have nothing. So we're now literally educating our adults

1834
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: to say, hey, it's great to buy gifts for your family,

1835
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: but what about the gifts of wealth? What about buying

1836
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: your kids that stopped in the sneaker company because you

1837
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: know the kids are gonna sneak it's our holiday season, right,

1838
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: But educating the parents to think all the things your

1839
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: parents did not give you, all the tools and resources

1840
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: you wish you would have had, Let me show you

1841
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 1: how to literally educate your children so that you can

1842
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: build for them. So it's literally like amplified now with

1843
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: this particular accelerator that we're launching in our app is

1844
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: now merging both worlds. We're emerging the connections and the

1845
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: classes that we've done with our youth and then the

1846
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,639
Speaker 1: classes of the connections that we've done with the deults,

1847
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: and we're bringing them together. So the classes, adults will

1848
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: be able to take. Classes will learn how to open

1849
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: different accounts for both themselves and their children, how to

1850
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: put their kids through college. But also now we're giving

1851
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: the resource on this is how you can also do

1852
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: this with your kids. Not just for your kids, but

1853
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: that's how you can do it with your kids. Bring

1854
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: your family. So now we'll have classes where kids can participate,

1855
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: and all of these things will live in the act.

1856
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: And I think it's during the time where we're spending

1857
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: so much. Now let's literally train our minds to look

1858
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: at opportunities. I know, if everybody is going to be

1859
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 1: spending our holiday season, I need to own these companies

1860
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: that are making billions of dollars on holiday season. And

1861
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: it's literally rewiring the thought process of our community. UM

1862
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: and it's been phenomenal a few months now. UM it's

1863
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,520
Speaker 1: in the app store, will Google download and Apple downloads.

1864
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 1: You can get access to on your iPad or your computer.

1865
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: But literally wealth builders dot com um Wealth build as

1866
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: community dot com is where you can see everything that

1867
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: we offer. There's tons of everything that we give, but

1868
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: in all actually reality seven three fifty five access to

1869
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: classes all the time, all day, every day, discussion downloads

1870
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: that we're giving out now like they're just tons of

1871
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: things worth like a secret society of wealth builders where

1872
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: you can't step outside and go to the bank, but

1873
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: you can go here and get the tools and resources

1874
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: in a simple and easy to understand the language that

1875
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: doesn't speak to you but through you and into you. Wow,

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01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Ashley and Fox, Um, you've given me twenty nine minutes

1877
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: of your time. You are special. Um. Thank you all.

1878
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: Please give me UM some banners so I can post

1879
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: it on my social media. You know, I got like

1880
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: a million social media followers and names two thousands and

1881
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: the fan club members and I promote you. I love

1882
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: what you do. I learned and then what you've done

1883
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: for me. It's it's like a little free session lessons session.

1884
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: She's given me now walk away confidence. But that's what

1885
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,759
Speaker 1: you do, Ashley, and continue to do. And I always

1886
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: know that you drop something, you can contact me, contact

1887
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: my staff, or contact me directly because I would do

1888
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: anything for you. You're that special to me. And to

1889
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: hear your tone, to hear the leadership in your voice,

1890
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: the confidence in your voice, I know you found your

1891
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: brand and now you're just building it out. That's what

1892
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: excites me so much because of the fact that I've

1893
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: been watching you looking at your sessions and you drop

1894
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: times and people liking you what you hear of you,

1895
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: and you get nice views on your videos when you

1896
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: drop though. You have a voice and people want to

1897
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 1: hear what you have to say, and you're smart, and

1898
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 1: I do want to wrap up somebody. I saw it earlier.

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01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned in your credits your Howard University graduate.

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Speaker 1: How have you It's been such an I think a

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Speaker 1: What's what did the hpc YOU do for you? I

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Speaker 1: that term, I knew I wanted to be I wanted

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Speaker 1: a bout African Americans, UM, but I also wanted to

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Speaker 1: go to the best hv C you that supported the

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Speaker 1: Howard I wanted to be on Wall Street. I found

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Speaker 1: out how much they paid. During summer internship. Howard taught

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Speaker 1: me how to eat, how to how to dress, how

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Speaker 1: It was so many things that I knew would equipped

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be the center of attention. I wanted

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Speaker 1: And I feel like an HPC you gave that to me.

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Speaker 1: So I was surrounded by individuals with the same mindset,

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to be around excellence. And I think

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Speaker 1: I needed to go to Howard University. Plus I didn't

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Speaker 1: UM and I really just wasn't what I wanted. I

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Speaker 1: every aspect of my family. When I decided that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to give back, and I understood that my life

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Speaker 1: was about serving and that was the way I was

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Speaker 1: men who have strength, whose wisdom is assertive, and who

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Speaker 1: is genuine in their spirit. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Sean McDonald my next guest, Maul and

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Speaker 1: Evans receives his BA and Political Science and m A

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Speaker 1: and Sociology from Stanford Universe. We competed on the Football

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Speaker 1: and Track Football treating Track and Football team. Marland was

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Speaker 1: named CEO of Next qu an investor that creates and

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Speaker 1: accelerates front frontier tech companies with an emphasis on digital

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Speaker 1: health and financial tech. He's on the show so that

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Speaker 1: discussed being a minority entrepreneur, something I am and something

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Speaker 1: we discussed on the regular basis on Money Making Conversation,

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Speaker 1: the story behind the Next Cube HBCU Founders Program, and

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Speaker 1: the importance of Black wealth creation and generational wealth through entrepreneurship.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. My man, fellow sociology major.

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Speaker 1: I'm a minor, Marlon Evans. How you doing well? Thanks

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Speaker 1: appreciate you having me on. Well, you know, first of all,

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Speaker 1: let's let's go back to a couple of things. When

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Speaker 1: I when I read through your bio, I love policy.

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Speaker 1: I think my degree is in mathematics, but policy was

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Speaker 1: something I fell in love with. I actually memorized the

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Speaker 1: Constitution and because it was just such a fascinating read

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Speaker 1: for me. And then so that's policide of me, that

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Speaker 1: that I lend myself to you. That's what you got

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Speaker 1: your degree in, and then your masters in sociology, that's

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Speaker 1: my minor. If I had to do it all over again,

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Speaker 1: I would not have gotten a degree in mathematics. I

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Speaker 1: would have gotten a degree in sociology because it really

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Speaker 1: opened my live, my mind on how information is being

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Speaker 1: disseminating in this country and how black people are denied

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Speaker 1: there are their story in America. Correct, No, absolutely, just

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Speaker 1: from a structural perspective, and we don't have to go

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Speaker 1: through the entire entire history of it. I think it's

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Speaker 1: all well well documented. But you know, when I was

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Speaker 1: first starting within political science, I thought I was heading

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Speaker 1: down the law the law school path as a way

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Speaker 1: to help perform some of those inequities, and quickly quickly

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Speaker 1: realized that I think being being a lawyer was it

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Speaker 1: what was in the cards? Uh you know for me?

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Speaker 1: I mean I enjoyed those those classes, but really felt

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Speaker 1: like I could have a greater impact by working directly

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Speaker 1: with with people. And that's kind of how I got

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Speaker 1: my I got my start along this time. Now when

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Speaker 1: you say path, what what? What path? Are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: Because like I said, there's so many different layers to you.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to like think that we're just over

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Speaker 1: there talking because everybody has a journey. You know. When

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Speaker 1: I got I left IBM, and I became a stand

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Speaker 1: up comic, and then I then I became a nightclub

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Speaker 1: owner a very popular comedy club. Then I became a

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Speaker 1: sitcom writer, and then I came to manager of Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 1: So there's always a journey to this conversation. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: the host of Money Making Conversation, one of several platforms

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Speaker 1: that are important in my life. So let's talk about

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Speaker 1: your journey. You know, athletes have been an athlete played

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Speaker 1: a major role in your life, and so was you

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Speaker 1: a scholarship athlete? Talk about that and then being able

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Speaker 1: to to balance academics and athletics at a school like Stanford. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was blessed to receiver scholarship to play

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Speaker 1: play football at Stanford. And one of the things about

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Speaker 1: being in that environment, like just the rising tide lifts

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Speaker 1: all boats. So I just felt like I was just

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Speaker 1: trying to, you know, hit the level of expectation that

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Speaker 1: my peers were, Um, we're kind of setting for themselves.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you know, they're the bars that they're setting.

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods is walking through the training room. You know,

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Speaker 1: someone like Jenny Thompson, the Olympic swimmer, who's who's just

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Speaker 1: around and you see the dedication that they put to

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Speaker 1: their their craft and it just inspires you to you

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Speaker 1: to do more. So the lessons learned on the athletic

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Speaker 1: field of what you need to do to be not

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Speaker 1: just successful, but to be at the highest liliest level.

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Speaker 1: I carry those with me into my daily life as

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Speaker 1: a as a professional, making up a little bit earlier

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Speaker 1: that everybody else, putting in a little bit of extra

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Speaker 1: extra time, making sure that everything you do is that

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Speaker 1: that utmost kind of X level next once that you

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Speaker 1: expect for yourself. All of that I learned is as

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Speaker 1: an athlete, because that being an athlete gave you the

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Speaker 1: discipline to really understand and also the ability to be

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Speaker 1: a become a leader work with people. That's been important

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Speaker 1: to know because it's because it's interesting. I look at

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Speaker 1: your resume, you know, football and then track and fear

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Speaker 1: because track can be can you say track is much

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Speaker 1: more on an individual sport, I mean a team sport.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we have two different mindsets. You was working

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Speaker 1: at working with you know, you had you on the track,

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Speaker 1: you kind of like push yourself. On the football team

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Speaker 1: you have teammates who can push you correct. Yeah. I know.

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Speaker 1: I had to be a little bit careful because my

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Speaker 1: wife is a tract coach, so I can't say too

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Speaker 1: much on that because she will say it's a team,

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Speaker 1: it's a team sport. Um, But yeah, there's it's obviously

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Speaker 1: more individual in terms of you know, it's just you

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Speaker 1: at that was you running around that oval? Come on?

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Speaker 1: That is is you? Whate They say, go you going

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Speaker 1: by yourself? Brother, unless you're gonna you go is nobody?

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Speaker 1: Come on? Brother, I got you back. If you missed

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Speaker 1: that tackle, I got you. Nobody is telling you. They

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Speaker 1: tell you if you slow down, you slow down, you

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Speaker 1: speed up, you speed up, you get tired, you get

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Speaker 1: a cramp. I am string is all on you, brother,

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Speaker 1: So and so I got debater, but see your wife.

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Speaker 1: So I want to be okay because I trying to

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Speaker 1: get through this interview with you, miss Evans. Okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think what you what you raised is so so important,

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Speaker 1: especially especially now where like um, it's this idea of

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Speaker 1: of hard work, kind of pushing yourself beyond what you

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Speaker 1: you think you can do. Just a physical standpoint is

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Speaker 1: I think society has kind of said, well, what's the

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Speaker 1: easiest path or how can we create something that gives

2091
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: you five shortcuts to get to where you need to be,

2092
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Speaker 1: Whereas the learning that you get from going through those

2093
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Speaker 1: struggles really defines who you are and build that that character.

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Speaker 1: So I have two daughters of of my own, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm always encouraging them to kind of when it

2096
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Speaker 1: gets hard, that's the good part. That's when you want

2097
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: to lean in because it teaches you so much about

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Speaker 1: about yourself and met kind of self discovery that happens

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Speaker 1: in athletics is the same thing that happens in entrepreneurship,

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Speaker 1: where you're starting something from scratch. You have naysayers, just

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Speaker 1: like you do in athletics. Though you really think you

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Speaker 1: can make it to the NFL, come on, what are

2103
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Speaker 1: the chances? The same thing happens that starts you really

2104
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Speaker 1: think you could be the next Facebook or or Uber.

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's you know, it's once in a lifetime

2106
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Speaker 1: type thing. And so you have to hear a lot

2107
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Speaker 1: of nose, a lot of people saying you can't do it,

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Speaker 1: and you still need to be able to kind of

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Speaker 1: push through that. And I think we as a society,

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Speaker 1: getting back to sociology and now more with the advent

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Speaker 1: of technology, g are trying to make it so you

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Speaker 1: don't have to work hard, which I think is ultimately

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Speaker 1: not what's in the best interests of assess people and

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01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: as a community at at large, you know there's really,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the story behind the next cube. HBC.

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Speaker 1: You found this program, but I wanted to bring up

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Speaker 1: something about working hard and being able to push yourself

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01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: because you know, we always want to push ourselves and

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Speaker 1: want to stride out, stride to the next level of success.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I look at my life and I always

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01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 1: tell people and my opening UH introduction I've talking about

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01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 1: everybody has a different version of what success. Some people

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01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: are a sizeable paycheck, I don't know if I'm if

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01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: satisfaction UH is in the language of a person who's successful,

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Speaker 1: because if you have a billionaire, they want to make

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Speaker 1: two BILLI you know you have a millionaire, they want

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Speaker 1: to be upcome a billionaire. You want a person who

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Speaker 1: has one nice car, they might want two cars, they

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01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 1: might want three houses. And that satisfaction what drives you

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01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: to be successful. Like every morning you talk about work up,

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01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 1: wake up early. I get up before a block Monday

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01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: to Friday. I'm up here four am for m and

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01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: that's part of my mantra to be successful. I don't

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01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: I can't hit snooze, I can't wake up at four

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Speaker 1: o'clock on Monday and two o'clock I work on twoday.

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01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 1: I wake up at seven o'clock. That's no, that's my

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01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: whole world of trying to be successful is incorrect. You know,

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01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 1: I was talking to John O'Brien and we were talking

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01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 1: about from nine to five, you work five and nine

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01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: is on you nine and nine? That's that's mailbox money,

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01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: and that's the goals of what you're talking about. You're

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01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of that twenty four hours and

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01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: that's what the HBC. You found this program that you're

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Speaker 1: putting together. Let's talk about that. It's about wealth, Black

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01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,839
Speaker 1: wealth creation, which we all talk about the rally experience.

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01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: Because you're interesting in the sense Moreland because as a

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01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:46,879
Speaker 1: as a black athlete, if if black people, especially athletes,

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01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: had the same entrepreneurial spirit and athleticism, because black people

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01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,839
Speaker 1: really believe when they're go in the BACKCA. I played basketball,

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01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: I don't care what ag. I really believe I can

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01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 1: make the NBA. I really believe I could probably play

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01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 1: in the NBA, even though I may not have had

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01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the talent. Same thing with football, you felt you could

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01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: be or the NFL player. Okay, if we had the

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01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 1: same mentality when it came to academics and feel that

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01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: we could be the next doctor to mix scientists, the

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01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: next Bill Gates, the next Warren Buffett. That's where your

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01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 1: program is really center on trying to change that mantra

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01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: from athleticism to entrepreneurism. Correct. Yeah, no, it's it's a

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01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 1: it's a mindset, right, this this idea that you not

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01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: only do you have the capacity and the and the talent,

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01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: but you have to then also be able to kind

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01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: of think creatively and say, all right, if this is um,

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01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: if this is something that I am passionate about, you know, solving,

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01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: is there another way to go about doing that? And

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01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: that's the innovation component of entrepreneurship is what I think

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01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 1: is an most exciting and we all have that in

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01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: our in our heart, in our kind of souls. Like

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01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 1: most people if you walk up to them and they say, yeah,

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01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I had this amazing business idea, I didn't really do

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01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: anything with it because you know, I don't even I

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01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: didn't even know where to where to start UM. And

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01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: that kind of uh fact that a lot of these

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Speaker 1: great ideas are dying on the sign is what inspired

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01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 1: us to watch the Founders program, where we can go

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01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 1: into the at early stage while there's still students. They

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to take risks that they may not

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Speaker 1: be able to take two or three years out when

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Speaker 1: they're trying to pay bills and those types of things,

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01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: um and inspire them at that point to say, here's

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01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: here's a process that you can go through if you

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01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,839
Speaker 1: do have an idea. Here's a platform that can support

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01:50:56,600 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: you getting your idea and turning into uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: into reality and just by simply making that you know, connection.

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01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 1: Now we there's no guarantee, but at least the opportunity

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01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: won't just fade away because the person thought like they

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Speaker 1: didn't have access to the to the resources, and that's

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01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 1: what the resources all about. I was reading this by Diversity,

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01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 1: by Commitment to Diversity and launch of HBCU found this

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01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: program on January januine July all and evans there there

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01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: has to be a better way. You can always do

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01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 1: more when Facebook what feels like an unsummountable challenge. I

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01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 1: refer back to the message my dad chaired mean as

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01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: a child, which he continues to reiterate to this day.

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Speaker 1: Growing up in Maryland as an African American in the

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Speaker 1: post Civil War Civil rights era, I was afforded opportunity

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Speaker 1: to just a decade before, we're all limits for Americans

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01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: now off limits for Americans with the pandemic, what's going

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Speaker 1: on with social change? What is not offer them? It's anymore,

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01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,599
Speaker 1: where can we go when you set for a plan

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Speaker 1: that you have in place that started in the pandemic era. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, obviously it's been a horrible situation.

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01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: But where there's crisis, there's also opportunity in the fact

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01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: that things are so virtual now. I mean, we can

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Speaker 1: connect people in a way that we weren't able to

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01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: do or we were always able to do previously, but

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01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: now people are hyper um you know, alert to the

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Speaker 1: fact that okay, I can have an impact on not

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Speaker 1: just ten students, but hundreds of students, three hundred students plus,

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Speaker 1: which is what we have currently signed up in the program,

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01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: all through a virtual platform. Where is if we if

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01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: we needed to go to each of the of the

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Speaker 1: d HBCUs like step by step, that we wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: where we are right now and be able to launch

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Speaker 1: a full national program in the course of four months.

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Speaker 1: So that I think number one, just the fact that

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Speaker 1: the that the technology, the infrastructure is there and then

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Speaker 1: I think number two, because we have these two things

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Speaker 1: going on. We have the global pandemic and then we

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Speaker 1: have the Black Lives Matter movement. People are now sensitized

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Speaker 1: to that fact of oh gosh, I didn't even realize

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Speaker 1: all of this that was going on in the inequities.

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Speaker 1: How can I get involved? Now? Know? You just like

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Speaker 1: me when they said that, I remember I got so

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Speaker 1: many phone calls from my white friends, go, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know how how did you operate? Well, yeah, we just

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Speaker 1: had to operate. So I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 1: that I'm some hero. It's just the hand that black

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Speaker 1: people are dealt with, you know, have to You know,

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Speaker 1: I do get nervous in the police office supports me

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01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,960
Speaker 1: black and white. I get nervous because, quite frankly, I

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01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 1: don't know why they pulled me over, and frank frankly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the story. Did I have to make

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Speaker 1: up to go home safely? And so so when I

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01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: hear when you when you start talking about I had

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Speaker 1: to interrupt you because you know, people when they when

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Speaker 1: they I just found out. Now we found out a

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Speaker 1: long time ago. Yeah, absolutely, And you know that's a

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Speaker 1: part of the education. But at least now they want

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Speaker 1: to have that conversation. And many corporates we've we've partnered

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Speaker 1: with with some they've been you know, this has been

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Speaker 1: a priority for them in the past, and now they're

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Speaker 1: doubling doubling down. So being able to tie up with

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Speaker 1: A T and T and and Morgan Stanley and there

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Speaker 1: are other corporates that are were in conversation with. They

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01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 1: realize that they need to be doing doing more as well.

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01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: And see our our founders programmers a way to reach

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Speaker 1: students and informed that they weren't otherwise. And the reality is,

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Speaker 1: and like you said, both of us aren't. Aren't HBCU

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Speaker 1: grad There are a few that get most of the attention.

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Speaker 1: You have, the Howards, the more House, the Spellman's of

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Speaker 1: the world that have, you know, traditionally that's where the

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Speaker 1: corporates are going to, you know, to recruit. I was

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Speaker 1: talking to a corporate the other day and they said

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Speaker 1: that these Spellman has something like seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: corporate sponsors, which is fantastic, But you know what those

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Speaker 1: you know, those the rural HBCU in Mississippi or Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: or nashal like, are they getting that same type of attention.

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Speaker 1: So we were committed as a part of this program

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Speaker 1: to not only service those schools, but we're now up

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Speaker 1: to sixty HPCs, which it was all a hundred hundred

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Speaker 1: plus to make sure that every student within the um

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Speaker 1: one of the HBC's feels like they have access to

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Speaker 1: back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And there's a hundred and four HBCU schools by the way,

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01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 1: and I I applaud that because like a lot of programs,

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01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 1: like I point out this, they know what they The

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01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 1: United Negro College Fund doesn't fund a fund all one

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01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 1: hundred and four HBCU school That's not how it works,

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01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: you know. It's like in the funds of what they

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01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: considered the top or they recommended schools that they have

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01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 1: in their program, and it goes from there. So you

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01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: have to look at schools. I was born and raised

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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. So I had Texas Southern in Houston,

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Speaker 1: and I had Prayer of You and m down the

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01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 1: road and I had Gramlin next over next day in Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Then at Southern universe. So the HPCU experience was always

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01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: around me. But I went to the University of Houston

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01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:43,920
Speaker 1: that was a school. Even though I went down to

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Speaker 1: Prayer of View or with all my friends were there.

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01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 1: I went to sexas. I went to Southern University, all

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Speaker 1: my friends were there. I said, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere where I wanted a different experience. But that

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Speaker 1: didn't mean I lost my black identity. I lost my

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Speaker 1: Black culture because when I see HBCUs, I feel it's

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01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: not only a need for need to bring value. And

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Speaker 1: also that when I realized that eight percent of the

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Speaker 1: dentists come from HBCUs who are black, eight percent of

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01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 1: the teachers from hbc s are black, and for the

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01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: percent of the congressmen who are black in Congress are

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Speaker 1: from HBCU schools. All these numbers are not numbers are

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Speaker 1: making up of the black stem graduates are from HBCU schools.

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Speaker 1: All these numbers are numbers that I have memorized and

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Speaker 1: I and I speak it out because people need to.

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Speaker 1: People who don't know are shocked. Huh yeah, yeah. So

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying when I say that mollledge that it's

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01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 1: important that people don't act like they're doing a favor,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you know HBCUs you should be like

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01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: pumping billions of dollars into HBC. Used when you see

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01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 1: the results that's coming out of them, well you hit

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01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 1: it right on the head. Because we're I'm an investor,

2324
01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 1: like I have shareholders that I have to report back

2325
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 1: to and they're looking for a return on on investment.

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01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 1: We're going into these these schools. Yes, there's a component

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01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 1: of the words. It's educationally. We want to make sure

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01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,960
Speaker 1: that the students will you know, who haven't had access

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01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: to understand what it means to be an entrepreneur. But

2330
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 1: make mistake about it, this isn't just a theoretical exercise.

2331
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 1: We anticipate that by getting connected into these these schools

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01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 1: and helping develop some of these ideas, some ideas coming

2333
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 1: out of it are going to be ones that we

2334
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: want to invest in. And we're going to be first

2335
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 1: in line because we were there at the at the beginning.

2336
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: And that's what all investors want. They want that proprietary

2337
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: deal flow that they get to see first before you know,

2338
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 1: everybody else you know, jumps on the bandwagon. And and

2339
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 1: we feel a hundred percent convinced that as one, two, three,

2340
01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 1: and the numbers start picking up of really success full

2341
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 1: startups coming out of HPTUS, and then everybody is going

2342
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: to be flooding the you know, flooding the doors to

2343
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 1: get access and be on the front lines of it,

2344
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 1: which is again going to be this rising tie that lifts,

2345
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 1: that lifts everything. And and so we're playing are hopefully

2346
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:22,440
Speaker 1: a part in that to ignite that spark and then

2347
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 1: once it's once it's lift, and we anticipate other folks

2348
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: coming around and saying, huh, I didn't realize that there

2349
02:00:30,480 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 1: is just that level of talent there. Maybe I should

2350
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: take a second look. And that's what I was getting at,

2351
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, not realizing and then being surprised. But then

2352
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 1: and I just really want to know when I when

2353
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 1: I read about you know, Netflix making their donation and

2354
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 1: to HBCU schools, and you know, I mean, I'm just

2355
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:58,360
Speaker 1: trying to say it, right, is that these donations along

2356
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 1: what would you let me see that every one? Secondly,

2357
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: if you just sit back and realize when I saw

2358
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 1: nor whenever here President Trump, you know, like he's done

2359
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:10,480
Speaker 1: a favor, like I've done more for black people. Stop

2360
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 1: stop stop stop, Okay, Look, we're not asking for favors.

2361
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: And that's why I think Black people have started have

2362
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,800
Speaker 1: to start trumpeting their success. And that's why I was

2363
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 1: talking about earlier when I was talking about athleticism in

2364
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 1: the black community, we trumpet that, you know, we see

2365
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 1: that as a real opportunity to get out of the hood,

2366
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of times we don't see that academics

2367
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 1: is really the real opportunity to get out of the

2368
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 1: hood and stay out of the hoods through academics. And

2369
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing with this pro with this Founders program,

2370
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 1: is moving academics to the forefront and then letting everybody

2371
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 1: know the value of HBCUs am I hiding on the

2372
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 1: am I speaking in the right direction? You are? You are?

2373
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, just and that the whole which you just

2374
02:01:55,400 --> 02:02:01,400
Speaker 1: mentioned around athletes and entertainers kind of put on a pedestal,

2375
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: which is great, and just drilling down into that a

2376
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 1: little bit just to make the point of well, why

2377
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 1: why were they successful? Because there was a level start

2378
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,480
Speaker 1: at the beginning of our conversation, of hard work, of hustle,

2379
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: of ingenuity of you know, the chips may have been

2380
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 1: against them, but they figured out a way I mean,

2381
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 1: all of that is entrepreneurship. There were some students I

2382
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 1: was talking to over the weekend. It was a Saturday

2383
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 1: and the Sunday, and they were involved in this program

2384
02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:33,920
Speaker 1: with the Black Venture Capital Consortium, and I said, first

2385
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 1: of all, let me just give you guys a shout

2386
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:39,839
Speaker 1: out for the grind. It's a Saturday, it's a Sunday,

2387
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 1: and you you all are sitting in here listening to

2388
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 1: me share about this, about this program, trying to better yourself.

2389
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean that mentality is what makes for successful entrepreneurs

2390
02:02:53,200 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 1: and we just want to flip that light and say, look,

2391
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: you can do this as well. You've proven it, whether

2392
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 1: it's on the athletic yield or entertainment or the fact

2393
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 1: that you're sitting there on a Saturday or Sunday. You've

2394
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: proven you have that desire and that will. Now let's

2395
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 1: just make sure it gets tied into the resources that

2396
02:03:12,640 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 1: can help that that grow. And that's what we're we're

2397
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 1: hoping to do through the HBC Founders Program. And that's

2398
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 1: a program. When I went to high school Marland, I

2399
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: was I was just a gifted kid, you know, academic.

2400
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: I just walking a room and see something walk out

2401
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 1: the room. It was just in my head and so

2402
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to pick up a book, didn't care

2403
02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: about college. I remember my daughter. My father was a

2404
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:37,480
Speaker 1: truck driver and so when he gave me my first

2405
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: job opportunity, Uh, my mentors were forklift drivers and black

2406
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 1: men who I loaded trucks. So that's what I wanted

2407
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 1: to be. When I graduate from high school. Despite being

2408
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 1: in the top percentage of my class, I went and

2409
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: got a job as a forklift driver because that was

2410
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:57,160
Speaker 1: my vision. That was my man. They had cars, they

2411
02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 1: can go in the grocery store by what they want

2412
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 1: by and they were having a good time. I thought,

2413
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 1: that's a that's that was good enough for me, and

2414
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,240
Speaker 1: it's about raising the standards. And so what happened was

2415
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:10,760
Speaker 1: at the simultaneously I would live in that life, but

2416
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 1: I had some teachers that said, this guy is really gifted,

2417
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: and so they moved me into a small group of students.

2418
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 1: By ten of us are one of my best friends,

2419
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 1: Regina Rodney, she graduated from Rice and Shall Roberts, she

2420
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:25,760
Speaker 1: graduated from Port University. I didn't even know why they

2421
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:27,560
Speaker 1: went to those schools. I would like, that's how far

2422
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 1: away I was from academics and when I do when

2423
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 1: I say, individuals like me are those of those can

2424
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:36,920
Speaker 1: be those casualties if we don't do what you're doing

2425
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 1: with this program, we don't put in and I think,

2426
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: like I said, put blinders on opportunities that are real

2427
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 1: and focused kids like me on real opportunities, and then

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02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: we become the stars of the community and we go

2429
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:53,000
Speaker 1: give back because academics are the key for long term success.

2430
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 1: As you know, it's an athlete. God has given you

2431
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 1: a window where your athletic skill will shine after a while,

2432
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 1: they would do two year after year after year. Academically.

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02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 1: I tell everybody, you can't reput my degree, my degree,

2434
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: mathematics degree in that wall. Nobody's gonna repot that. They

2435
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:13,000
Speaker 1: can report your call, they can reput with your house,

2436
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: they can anything if you don't have a position to

2437
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 1: be able to pay for it. And that's why I

2438
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 1: want you to bring you on the show to talk

2439
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:24,080
Speaker 1: about this, because you're stopping the repo opportunities in people's lives,

2440
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 1: especially in the black community, if they get their academic

2441
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: story together. M H. Now, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah,

2442
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 1: and we we recognize that um, we're not. We have

2443
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 1: to play our our part, but it's eventually it's going

2444
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: to take a larger kind of effort. And which is

2445
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: why we're pulling in these these corporates and saying, hey, book,

2446
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 1: it's not just about writing a check. We need you

2447
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 1: to engage, we need you to mentor we need you

2448
02:05:55,320 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: to be that example for these students to say, hey,

2449
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,440
Speaker 1: maybe it's don't end up going on and launching a business,

2450
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 1: but I can go work for a T and T

2451
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,840
Speaker 1: or or Morgan Stanley and and then maybe I do

2452
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 1: that for a little while, and then I remember all

2453
02:06:11,120 --> 02:06:14,120
Speaker 1: the things that I learned as a as an entrepreneur,

2454
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 1: and then I start my own business. But more and

2455
02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 1: more of us need to show up and say, look,

2456
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 1: this is where, here's an example, here's a pathway for

2457
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 1: you to to get there, and if this is something

2458
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 1: that you're interested in, we're going to be here to

2459
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 1: be supportive of that. My question before we leave the

2460
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 1: name next queue, which there really any x three? Uh?

2461
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Because the name of the

2462
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:45,040
Speaker 1: coming of the next cube, even though it says any

2463
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 1: x three, yes, it's uh, it's next cube. And part

2464
02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 1: of it is that there's kind of things often come

2465
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:56,760
Speaker 1: in come in three. So there's three aspects to our

2466
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, to our business. We we do our invest thing,

2467
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: we have some work we do with our corporate partners,

2468
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: and then we work with later stage companies. So those

2469
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:13,240
Speaker 1: are kind of the three main activities. But probably more,

2470
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, symbolically is just thinking about how we can

2471
02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 1: provide kind of exponential um growth for the companies that

2472
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: are that are working with us, that you bring what

2473
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: you're bringing to the table, we bring what we are

2474
02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 1: bringing to the table, and then that's going to generate

2475
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 1: even exponential return. So that that's a part of the

2476
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 1: the rationale behind the name and UM in the future

2477
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 1: because you know, I know you said a T and

2478
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 1: T s on board. You're working on Morgan Stanley to

2479
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 1: come on board these financial commitments to be able to

2480
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:51,080
Speaker 1: build a model that has long term success and not

2481
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: success is not the right and the tide of change

2482
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 1: which came about due to the George Floyd killing and

2483
02:07:57,480 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 1: people feeling there's a certain degree of simpty, this is

2484
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 1: what I want to make sure all But I don't

2485
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: want your sympathy, I want your I want your support.

2486
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 1: I want your support because this is value. This is

2487
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 1: like you know you, you know you you you you mind, uh,

2488
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 1: diamonds because it has value. You use real for oil

2489
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 1: because it has value. I'm just letting you you support

2490
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 1: these HPC use in the academic opportunity because it adds value. Uh.

2491
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:29,680
Speaker 1: It brings in corporate citizens, taxpayers, good people who create

2492
02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 1: highland value and also make this country safe and academically

2493
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:38,160
Speaker 1: less challenge and more competitive in the global scale. That's

2494
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 1: why I want to make sure people understand I don't

2495
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 1: need your sympathy. I just need you to start mining

2496
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:48,280
Speaker 1: and supporting the value that HBCUs and African Americans in

2497
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 1: general bring to this country. Yeah. No, And that's those

2498
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:55,840
Speaker 1: are the conversations we're having with the corporates and bring

2499
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: Sammy has signed on ATNP, has signed on others well,

2500
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: and what we're sharing with them and they know this

2501
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,880
Speaker 1: this this is just fact, like more diverse companies are

2502
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:09,760
Speaker 1: more successful companies. So they know within their own institutions

2503
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:12,720
Speaker 1: that they need to start recruiting a more diverse pool

2504
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 1: of talent because that's going to impact their shareholder value

2505
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:21,160
Speaker 1: down the road. So they understand it. They're just needing

2506
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:22,880
Speaker 1: now to figure out how do we do this on

2507
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 1: a more systematic way so that we're reaching all of

2508
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:30,480
Speaker 1: the all of the talent, and they see our program

2509
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 1: is one piece of that. There's other things obviously that

2510
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:38,560
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be doing to help help dry those those goals.

2511
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:42,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, this isn't this is not a handout. This

2512
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 1: is a way for you to create more shareholder value

2513
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 1: by tapping into great talent that's going to help your

2514
02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:52,520
Speaker 1: your business. And so we we see it as a win.

2515
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 1: If the companies, the students going through the program start

2516
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 1: a company or if they go work for one of

2517
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 1: our partners, that's also a way for us as well. Well,

2518
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:04,520
Speaker 1: I knew you could appreciate it being an athlete who

2519
02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:07,800
Speaker 1: was recruited to uh, you know, first tier tier one

2520
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,160
Speaker 1: institution called Stanford University, and you got that b A

2521
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:14,160
Speaker 1: and the political science and that masters and sociology, and

2522
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 1: that we have a kinship. My friend. I want you,

2523
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 1: I want you to stay in touch with me. I've

2524
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 1: launched a platform called hbc U Awards will recognize uh

2525
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 1: uh black excellence at HBCUs and black people in general

2526
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:31,760
Speaker 1: and in a business, entertainment and entrepreneurship. And so these

2527
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 1: are these are lanes. I want to be able to

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