WEBVTT - Slow Walk to Justice 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wikate F Daily with 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.560 me your girl, Danielle Moody reporting from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.120 I hope that you all had a RESTful and the 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:27.400 rejuvenating weekend. UM. If you celebrated the Easter holiday, passover 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.280 or celebrating in the midst of Ramadan, um, I hope 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.720 that you had a joyous occasion with family and friends, 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:39.320 UM as I did getting the opportunity to spend some 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.839 really much needed time with good friends, new babies, um, 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:49.479 and just enjoy some play. As we head into this week, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.479 I can't help but wonder, you know, at the beginning 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.400 of each and every week, I can't help but wonder, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.200 will this be the week that Merrick Garland takes action? 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:03.880 Will be the week that there is no other news 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.600 story other than the fact that Donald Trump and company 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.679 are indicted with mountains and mountains of evidence that show 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:15.399 that they worked in practice, in step by step and 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:21.240 lockstep with one another in order to overturn our election. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.399 Is this going to be the week when Don Trump 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:30.800 Junior is picked up for having text messages back and 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.520 forth that signal right to Mark Meadows and to all 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:38.039 Republicans that we quote own all the paths to power? 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.440 Is it going to be the week that Jared Kushner 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.399 gets picked up and is an indictment is opened and 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.800 an investigation is opened into oh, I don't know what 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.360 was worth two billion dollars from Mohammed been Salam. Why 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.400 would Mohammed bin Salam go against his own advisors, who 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.120 we know don't are not filled with scruple or morals 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:06.400 to decide to back someone who his own business partners 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.119 say is not a good businessman, this is risky, it's 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.920 two billion dollars, but decide in any way to go 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.560 forward with his business plan with Jared Kushner. Why is that? 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.079 Why is it that we allow the media to continue 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:23.840 to have conversations on the front page of every major 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:28.600 newspaper about Hunter Biden's laptop when Hunter Biden is not 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:33.400 inside of the White House, When Hunter Biden's laptop is 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.080 just as OH I don't know, convenient and necessary to 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.720 the Republican narrative as Hillary Clinton's emails were. But then 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.680 we saw what happened when Trump went into the White House. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.000 We learned about oh I don't know, Ivanka Trump using 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:52.040 a private server. We learned about other people within the 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:57.160 Republican administration and party using private servers. But this was 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:02.160 all the rage, all the rage for the twenty sixteen 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.440 election cycle. So what do we think right that Republicans 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.000 are setting themselves up for. Well, I can tell you 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:13.000 what my thoughts are, which is this, it would be 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.959 very convenient for when Republicans, if and when they were 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.079 to win midterms, decide that they're going to open up 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:26.839 a commission and investigations into Hunter Biden and his relationships 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.720 in Europe and what he knew and when he knew whatever, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.800 just to make up what a media circus. And you 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.240 see what frustrates me about this is that Democrats don't 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.960 need to make up a media circus. They just need 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.120 to share the truth about what they have been covered 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.680 over the last two years or so of investigations around 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.240 Donald Trump and company. You see, Democrats don't need to 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.520 make up anything. They don't need to lie. All they 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.400 need to do is tell the truth. But tell it 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.800 on national television, tell it on every goddamn station, tell 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.000 it on radio, tell it on satellite, tell it on podcast, 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:11.080 tell it anywhere and everywhere. Turn this campaign around securing 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:17.960 our democracy into an all out media onslaught where even 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.880 if you are an avid Fox News watcher, you could 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.839 not learn right about what is going on, because it 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.440 would be everywhere that you could try so desperately to 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.119 stick your head in the sand of the Fox News orbit, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.920 but you would still know that something is going on 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.360 with Donald Trump and all of his sickothans. Is this 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.640 going to be the week, dear friends, when we open 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:48.240 up an investigation into Jinny Thomas and we discover whether 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.280 or not we have a current active member of the 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:56.080 Supreme Court who in just two months is getting ready 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:02.680 to strip away, strip away abortion care for women and 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.839 people with uteruss in this country that are getting ready 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.960 to make decisions to strip away New York City's ability 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:15.559 to be able to create policy gun policy that keeps 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:19.320 us all safe. After a mass shooting last week on 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:24.680 a fucking train. So do you see how the Democrats 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:30.200 desire to do nothing, to make nothing of note about 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.520 what is being discovered and what we know to be 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:37.440 true a scene if you are not utilizing media in 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.880 every single form to tell the truth far and wide 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.080 to the American people. And I don't mean just giving 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.840 people a bunch of statistics and facts. I mean tell 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.800 the fucking story, because you see, friends, this is what 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.479 Republicans are really good at. They're really good at now 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:03.200 rating a story about paint you the picture of who 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.400 they think is the most dangerous person. Right, I'll tell 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:14.360 you something funny. I went on MSNBC yesterday morning, Easter Morning, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.800 and you know, friend of the show Katie Fang has 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.520 a new early morning show on the weekends on MSNBC 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.479 called Katie Fang. So I joined Katie and our other 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:31.279 friend Kurt Bardella on the show and she's like, Oh, 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.040 we have to talk about this whole thing that Tucker 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:40.720 Carlson is doing with his media company, Like, what is this? Well, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:45.640 Tucker Carlson is doing a quote unquote documentary on what 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.240 he believes is one of the biggest issues that is 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.719 hitting the United States that apparently we're not talking about. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.240 Is it gun violence? No? Is it climate change? No? 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.320 Is it the crumbling of our democracy and voting rights? No? 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:10.640 Is it LGBTQ policy, No? Is it abortion? No, it 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:17.000 is the fact that testosterone levels in men are dropping 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:22.600 and this spell's disaster apparently for the country and for 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:27.520 the planet. Yes, I shit, you not Google Tucker Carlson 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.800 documentary trailer, and you folks will believe that you are 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.440 watching somebody's homo erotic something or other, because it's sure 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.640 as hell doesn't look like a documentary on anything other 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:45.720 than white men with bare chests and six packs, drinking 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:52.920 glasses of raw eggs and tanning their nether regions. Yes, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:58.320 that's what's in the trailer. That's what I discussed on MSNBC. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:04.480 And you know, the question was posed, which I the 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.480 show tweeted out and I will be sure to share 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:12.760 it with all of you in the clip. But Katie asked, Danielle, 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:18.920 what do you see when you see this like trailer? 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.720 And I said, well, you know, I'll be honest with you, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.400 I've never seen a better example of white male fragility 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.800 in my entire life than a Tucker Carlson and b 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:35.800 this trailer, right, And the fact that the more that 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.600 we discuss equity, the more that we deviate from the 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:47.840 lens of sis white straight men in this country, the 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:53.720 more terrified Tucker Carlson and all of his white male 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.400 Fox News viewers become, you see, because in order for 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:04.520 them to succeed, subjugation is necessary. Does that sound like 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:10.720 strength to you? No? It sounds like really small, fragile 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:15.240 people that in order to feel big and strong, need 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.440 to step on other people because they believe that that's 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.559 a sign of strength. You see, Tucker Carlson is terrified 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.360 about what is going to happen to what he believes 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:30.840 as an endangered species, the straight white Republican male. My god, 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.560 if we're not chaining women to children and inside of 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.760 the household, if you're not able to beat and kill 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.959 and disparage black people, right, then how will we know 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:48.239 that we're better than everybody else? Right? That's the mindset 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:54.440 of Tucker Carlson and the entirety of the white men 0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:00.360 who watch Fox News. So I will say say this, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:06.120 there are many pressing issues many there are tons of them. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.800 Not one of them has to do with the testosterone 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:15.920 levels of white men that are worthy of a documentary, 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:21.160 None of them. But my god, does this man screaming 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.760 at the top of his lungs frantically about testosterone levels 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.920 and masculinity and toxic masculinity at that give you everything 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:38.240 that you need to know about Tucker Carlson and the Trumpers, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:43.800 the trump Men. So I don't know, friends, what this 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.040 New Week will bring us but coming up next my 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:54.400 conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner to walk us through 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.680 where we are in terms of the House Commission, the 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.480 one six Commission, whether or not this is going to 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.400 be the week that they refer write a letter to 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.920 the Department of Justice that they refer Donald Trump and 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:15.120 company receive criminal charges because of the detailed investigation and 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.040 now to Glenn's point, over nine hundred interviews that they 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.839 have done that are leading us in one direction, in 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:25.720 one direction only, which is Donald Trump needs to be 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.079 criminally indicted. And Glenn and I will go through why 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.040 the tepidness? What the hell we are waiting for? Are 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:37.120 we waiting for Republicans to take back over right the 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:42.560 House and the Senate to make a absolute mockery right 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.760 of what is left of our democracy and our government 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.040 structures and agencies? Is that what we are waiting for. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:57.880 That conversation, folks, is coming up next, folks. As always, 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.800 you know that I am thrilled when I have the 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.080 opportunity to sit down with our friend Glenn Kirshner, a 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.640 host of Justice Matters and an MSNBC legal analyst. Glenn, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.080 so let me tell you that when I heard the 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.120 news with regard to the one six House Commission and 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.480 the fact that there was a possibility that they were 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:21.480 split on whether or not to go the whole marathon, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.000 not just twenty six miles, but the point two, which 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.840 would be to end with a referral to the Justice 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:34.720 Department for criminal charges for Donald Trump. The murmurings are, well, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.240 we don't want to hamper what the Justice Department is 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.640 already doing. We don't want to, you know, speed up 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.720 Merrick Garland's glacial like pace. We don't want to do 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:49.880 these things. What was your reaction when those stories started 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.280 to perculate out. Yeah. I think people tend to overthink 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:59.160 this stuff sometimes, Danielle. I've heard some of the analysts say, well, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:04.080 if they make criminal referrals, then people will attack anything 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:09.840 the Department of Justice does as being politically motivated. I'm sorry, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.280 no matter what the Department of Justice does, they will 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:18.200 be attacked for doing it based on politics and not 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.079 based on the facts and the law once they start 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.400 dropping indictments on these people. So I don't know why 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.559 we fall into the trap of deciding we have to 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.400 depart from doing what's right for fear of what the 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.560 wrong People will say, and how they'll try to spin 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:42.080 it and mischaracterize it to criticize us. That's insane. So 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.400 I think Representative Jamie Raskin laid that to rest last 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.520 nights Hayes, and I can quote precisely what it's said, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.240 because it's actually encouraging for a couple of reasons. First 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.560 of all, he said, the truth is coming out in 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.200 these hearings we're holding behind closed doors. He said, regarding 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:04.040 criminal earls, we have not been shy about criminal evidence 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.760 we've encountered, and our report will be profuse in setting 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.600 forth crimes that have not yet been alleged. And then 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.000 he said about the public hearings, it will be both 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.920 agonizing and riveting for the country to see just how 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:24.000 close we came to losing it all. But Representative Raskin said, 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.680 I don't understand what the media is talking about when 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.080 they say we're not going to make criminal referrals. We 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.600 haven't been shy about it before, we won't be shy 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.760 about it in the future. And you know, I think 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.840 when we see all of the criminality that they have 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.320 captured in evidence, evidence that can be used by the 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.080 Department of Justice. When the J six Committee is done. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.360 It's gonna just sort of knock the wind out of us, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.720 and it will give even more reason for DJ to 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.240 have to indict these people, which I still believe they will. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:01.680 You know, Glenn, the Justice Department, these are your old cronies, right, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.880 many of them, I'm certain of probably still there. But 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.840 you have an inner working and understanding. What are we 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.400 missing here in terms of the pace that Merrick Garland 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.120 and team are working at Because to your point, to 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:24.040 Congressman Raskin's point, the evidence is overwhelming, and yet we 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.280 keep hearing this same phrase, Oh, I don't we don't 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.480 want to be perceived as if we're playing politics. I'm 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.800 confused because I don't know what other kind of game 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.280 you play in Washington, DC but politics, Right Like, I 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.320 don't know what else you would call trying to overthrow 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:45.160 the government from inside the White House, other than playing politics. 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.720 So we have the evidence and the public on our side, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.240 why do we still hear about this tepidness? So if 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.400 we're missing anything, we're just missing sort of the culture 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.400 and the mindset of federal prosecutors. Because I was on 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.800 the inside for decades, I had to fight my own 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:11.480 superiors at the Department of Justice at times to bring 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.560 cases that were maiden legal voyages that presented novel issues 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.440 where there was no rock solid precedent to support what 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.720 I wanted to do, even though it was the right 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.320 thing to do based on perhaps a new and novel 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:30.000 set of facts. I sometimes had to fight. I did 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.440 it three times. I had to fight to bring novel cases. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.240 I won approval to bring all three. I lost one 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.040 of those three, and I won the other two. I 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.480 was never afraid to lose, you know, you know, there's 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.200 no shame in losing, But there's nothing but shame in 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.720 declining to bring a righteous case for fear of losing. 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.320 So the only thing that I think we're missing is 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.080 that there's a reason the perception is that the FEDS 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.000 never lose a case. It's because they rarely bring very difficult, 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:03.040 challenging novel cases. And this is a challenging and novel case, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:06.800 not on the facts. The facts prove a thousand times 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.320 over Donald Trump committed any number of crimes against the 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.040 people of the United States, but it is still novel 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:18.360 and challenging to prosecute a former president of the United States. 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.959 That's the only thing that I think people on the 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.560 outside are missing. The timidity and the handwringing and the 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.640 legal navel gazing of some of the folks at the 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:33.520 Department of Justice can be paralyzing. They can often find 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.880 all sorts of reasons to decline to bring a case 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.680 rather than bringing a challenging case where there's a risk 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.280 they might lose. So that, I think is why this 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.720 thing is moving so slowly, at a glacial pace, as 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.719 you put it. I do believe this iceberg is going 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.600 to ultimately bump into a big old indictment and these 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:59.000 cases will be indicted, but not quickly enough. And I 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:03.840 just hope that these cases are indicted in time for 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.760 our democracy to recover, because that's an open question. You know. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.600 One of the things that I want to also bring 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:16.879 up with regard to Representative Raskin's comments on all In, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.160 which is the fact that you know, he's saying, how 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.639 close we almost came to losing our democracy. The reality 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.800 is is you know, to quote somebody that I don't 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.800 really like, Bill Maher, he said, this is a slow 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.840 moving coup, right, So we didn't actually stop anything. We 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.320 hit pause. And so for me, when I even hear 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.040 members that I agree with and I'm always one hundred 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.520 percent in Raskins camp. It is the fact that I 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.560 believe that they think that this ended on one six, 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.600 when we were finally able to get people out of 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.400 the Capitol Building, as opposed to making the connection with 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:03.280 this ongoing coup, with the legislation that is being put 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.680 out across this country, whether it's abortion or don't say gay, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.679 or voter suppression laws, and then the continue continuation of 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.800 the Big Lie. The other thing that is that again 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.320 we're supposed to be going after the architects and those 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.240 that are not just the foot soldiers that entered the 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.120 Capitol Building that day. Where are we as a country 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.359 in investigating whether or not one of our sitting Supreme 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:35.040 Court justices, you know, maybe compromise because his wife was 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:38.160 going back and forth with then Chief of Staff Mark 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.919 Meadows on the day of the insurrection. I don't know 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.720 where we are, but I haven't heard any announcement that 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.639 either of the judiciary committees in the House or the 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:53.120 Senate is contemplating opening a hearing. I think we should 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.679 open an impeachment inquiry. I'm not saying we need to 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.800 rush to impeachment, but we do need to rush to transparent. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:05.560 We need to figure out why Justice Thomas violated every 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.680 rule of ethics when it comes to a judge removing 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.159 himself or herself from a case in which they have 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.439 a conflict. He presided over a case involving whether his 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:21.240 wife's incriminating let's call them what they are, text messages 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.600 to Mark Meadows should be buried from the J six 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.880 Committee in public view, or should be revealed and run 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:32.160 the risk of incriminating his wife. There's not a judge 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.760 in the United States that doesn't understand other than Clarence Thomas, 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:40.600 and he fully understands it out that you must remove 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.320 yourself from a case in which you have a family 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:49.679 conflict right a family's interest at stake. And here's what 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.600 this has proved. It's proved that the Supreme Court cannot 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.600 be trusted to police itself, and we need to do 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.000 something about that. It's a challenge because of the separation 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.160 of powers, and it's hard for Congress to do anything 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:08.119 to install any sort of oversight or guardrails on the 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:12.200 Supreme Court. But what you have to do is open 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:17.760 a hearing, an impeachment inquiry, to see whether articles of 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.120 impeachment against Justice Thomas are the right thing to do 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.320 to help restore the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, because 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.280 right now the legitimacy of the Supreme Court is about 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.240 as low as it could yet, and it's about to 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.160 make all kinds of decisions that may end up revoking 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:40.840 women's constitutional privacy rights for example. You know, this is 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:46.359 a toxic mix and a potentially explosive mix. When you 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:53.280 have an illegitimate court about to revoke women's constitutional privacy rights. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:58.159 How long? How long will the people of our nation 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:03.120 accept this? You know, I would never advocate violence, but 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.960 you know, these people are creating a powder keg right, 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:14.159 and they better start working to enhance the integrity and 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.000 the legitimacy of the institutions of government, not continue to 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.760 tear them down. I just you know, I got to 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:22.920 tell you when you say that you and you lay 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.600 these things out, because I have been saying for so 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.480 long on this show that I believe that things are 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.800 going to get bloodier before they get better. And I 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.719 don't advocate for violence at all, but when you create 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:39.800 the conditions for you know, for economic devastation, for lack 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:46.120 of transparency and integrity in our in our government agencies. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.080 When you're seeing the poll numbers not only for the 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.800 Supreme Court, but for the President of the United States 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.639 Congress as a whole, you know, in the toilet, what 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.920 that tells us is that all is not well right, 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.120 and there's all only so much pressure that you can 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.920 put on people before they explode. You know. I want 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.560 to talk a bit more about where we are with 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:14.720 the insurrection because several things have again come to light, 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.800 and I just notice in media that they are not 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:22.440 making front page news, such as Donald Trump Junior's text messages. 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.720 Since we're talking about text messages, the number of text 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:30.560 messages that went and said, we own all the paths 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:35.520 to power? How is how is Don Junior still walking 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:39.120 around Glenn, We own all the paths to power? So 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:44.400 what that alerts is that they knew they lost. They 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:48.680 knew they lost. So again the denial and the lies around, oh, 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.400 we just wanted to certify and make sure that this 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.800 election was free and fair. They knew that they lost. 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.920 And what Don Junior's text message allows us to get 0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:04.480 an insight into is that they did not care. The 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:10.639 treasonous bravado of Don Junior's text to Mark Meadows and 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.480 not only we own all the paths to power, but 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.280 on November fifth, before the votes were counted, before the 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:21.440 election was called, he said my father's He actually said, potuses, 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:28.879 my father's second term must start now before the election 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:34.840 votes were even tallied. That is so deeply treasonous in 0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.439 the lay sense of trees and not in the legal 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:44.520 sense that how can that not earn Don Junior on 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:50.240 a you know, as a key defendant in the conspiracy 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:54.360 indictment to commit offenses against the United States by overturning 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.560 the results of an election. He said it. I mean, 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.240 he just said, my father must be installed as president 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:06.200 now before the election results are even final, before a 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:13.040 president has been announced. That is that's insanity, it's criminality. 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:18.320 And yet when there's so much criminality going on, it does, 0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.720 and when everything now is overshadowed by the war in Ukraine, 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.479 you know, we are left to wonder will any of 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.200 this ever come home to roost. I still think it will, 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:32.000 but you know, as each day passes, I get a 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:37.600 little less confident that DJ will end up doing, you know, 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.119 what it needs to do to save our democracy, to 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.679 give it a fighting chance, because if you wait too long, 0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.560 we will lose it all. So Don Junior is yet 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.840 another spoke in the wheel of the hub and spoke 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:56.200 conspiracy that is Donald Trump and all his criminal associates. 0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.760 I mean, not to mention, you know, the casual and 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:03.359 US and the two billion dollars that Jared Kushner was 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:08.960 able to recoup from Mohammed bin Salam post Donald Trump's presidency, 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:13.240 after his own advisors. I mean, when the advisors, when 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:17.000 the Saudi advisors are saying to MBS, oh he is 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.720 not actually you know, on the up and up. He 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.760 doesn't really have much business acumen and we may not 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:24.760 want to get in bed with him. But then he 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:28.760 decides to give him two billion dollars. Anyway, what is 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.119 that a payoff for? But nobody's investigating that. But we 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.919 got Fox News still talking about Hunter Biden's laptop, not 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.520 two billion dollars that were that was given to Jared Kushner, 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.960 not these text messages that went from Don Junior to 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.399 Mark Meadows the day before the election. And you know, 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.960 you say, and we need action so that we have 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.720 time to restore our democracy. But as I list out 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:59.080 these things, Glenn, I don't know if restoration is actually 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:03.080 possible because the corrosion is so deep, right, the corrosion 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.480 is so deep, and the desire to make any moves 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:11.879 to the contrary to show some fighting spirit seems to 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:20.800 be non existent. Yeah, if restoration wasn't a possibility, you know, 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.040 I think I would just kind of pack up my 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.480 little camera gear and go to Mexico and get my 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.399 PBR and just sit there and drink and just you know, 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.080 call it a day. Wait, But I still think, I 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:41.160 still think restoration is possible. So lastly, we had another 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.400 decision with one of the foot soldiers in in the insurrection. 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:50.280 These cases have started to trickle in with um, you know, 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:53.920 with decisions coming in. We had one that was completely exonerated. 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.919 We've had others where we've looked at sentencing to a 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.439