1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wikate F Daily with 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: me your girl, Danielle Moody reporting from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: I hope that you all had a RESTful and the 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: rejuvenating weekend. UM. If you celebrated the Easter holiday, passover 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: or celebrating in the midst of Ramadan, um, I hope 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: that you had a joyous occasion with family and friends, 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: UM as I did getting the opportunity to spend some 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: really much needed time with good friends, new babies, um, 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: and just enjoy some play. As we head into this week, 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: I can't help but wonder, you know, at the beginning 11 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: of each and every week, I can't help but wonder, 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: will this be the week that Merrick Garland takes action? 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Will be the week that there is no other news 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: story other than the fact that Donald Trump and company 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: are indicted with mountains and mountains of evidence that show 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: that they worked in practice, in step by step and 17 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: lockstep with one another in order to overturn our election. 18 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: Is this going to be the week when Don Trump 19 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Junior is picked up for having text messages back and 20 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: forth that signal right to Mark Meadows and to all 21 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: Republicans that we quote own all the paths to power? 22 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Is it going to be the week that Jared Kushner 23 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: gets picked up and is an indictment is opened and 24 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: an investigation is opened into oh, I don't know what 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: was worth two billion dollars from Mohammed been Salam. Why 26 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: would Mohammed bin Salam go against his own advisors, who 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: we know don't are not filled with scruple or morals 28 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: to decide to back someone who his own business partners 29 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: say is not a good businessman, this is risky, it's 30 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: two billion dollars, but decide in any way to go 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: forward with his business plan with Jared Kushner. Why is that? 32 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: Why is it that we allow the media to continue 33 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: to have conversations on the front page of every major 34 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: newspaper about Hunter Biden's laptop when Hunter Biden is not 35 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: inside of the White House, When Hunter Biden's laptop is 36 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: just as OH I don't know, convenient and necessary to 37 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the Republican narrative as Hillary Clinton's emails were. But then 38 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: we saw what happened when Trump went into the White House. 39 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: We learned about oh I don't know, Ivanka Trump using 40 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: a private server. We learned about other people within the 41 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Republican administration and party using private servers. But this was 42 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: all the rage, all the rage for the twenty sixteen 43 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: election cycle. So what do we think right that Republicans 44 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: are setting themselves up for. Well, I can tell you 45 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: what my thoughts are, which is this, it would be 46 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: very convenient for when Republicans, if and when they were 47 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: to win midterms, decide that they're going to open up 48 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 1: a commission and investigations into Hunter Biden and his relationships 49 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: in Europe and what he knew and when he knew whatever, 50 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: just to make up what a media circus. And you 51 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: see what frustrates me about this is that Democrats don't 52 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: need to make up a media circus. They just need 53 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: to share the truth about what they have been covered 54 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: over the last two years or so of investigations around 55 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and company. You see, Democrats don't need to 56 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: make up anything. They don't need to lie. All they 57 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: need to do is tell the truth. But tell it 58 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: on national television, tell it on every goddamn station, tell 59 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: it on radio, tell it on satellite, tell it on podcast, 60 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: tell it anywhere and everywhere. Turn this campaign around securing 61 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: our democracy into an all out media onslaught where even 62 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: if you are an avid Fox News watcher, you could 63 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: not learn right about what is going on, because it 64 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: would be everywhere that you could try so desperately to 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: stick your head in the sand of the Fox News orbit, 66 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: but you would still know that something is going on 67 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and all of his sickothans. Is this 68 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: going to be the week, dear friends, when we open 69 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: up an investigation into Jinny Thomas and we discover whether 70 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: or not we have a current active member of the 71 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Supreme Court who in just two months is getting ready 72 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: to strip away, strip away abortion care for women and 73 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: people with uteruss in this country that are getting ready 74 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: to make decisions to strip away New York City's ability 75 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: to be able to create policy gun policy that keeps 76 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: us all safe. After a mass shooting last week on 77 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: a fucking train. So do you see how the Democrats 78 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: desire to do nothing, to make nothing of note about 79 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: what is being discovered and what we know to be 80 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: true a scene if you are not utilizing media in 81 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: every single form to tell the truth far and wide 82 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: to the American people. And I don't mean just giving 83 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: people a bunch of statistics and facts. I mean tell 84 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: the fucking story, because you see, friends, this is what 85 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: Republicans are really good at. They're really good at now 86 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: rating a story about paint you the picture of who 87 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: they think is the most dangerous person. Right, I'll tell 88 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: you something funny. I went on MSNBC yesterday morning, Easter Morning, 89 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: and you know, friend of the show Katie Fang has 90 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: a new early morning show on the weekends on MSNBC 91 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: called Katie Fang. So I joined Katie and our other 92 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: friend Kurt Bardella on the show and she's like, Oh, 93 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: we have to talk about this whole thing that Tucker 94 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Carlson is doing with his media company, Like, what is this? Well, 95 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson is doing a quote unquote documentary on what 96 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: he believes is one of the biggest issues that is 97 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: hitting the United States that apparently we're not talking about. 98 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: Is it gun violence? No? Is it climate change? No? 99 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Is it the crumbling of our democracy and voting rights? No? 100 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: Is it LGBTQ policy, No? Is it abortion? No, it 101 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: is the fact that testosterone levels in men are dropping 102 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: and this spell's disaster apparently for the country and for 103 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: the planet. Yes, I shit, you not Google Tucker Carlson 104 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: documentary trailer, and you folks will believe that you are 105 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: watching somebody's homo erotic something or other, because it's sure 106 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: as hell doesn't look like a documentary on anything other 107 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: than white men with bare chests and six packs, drinking 108 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: glasses of raw eggs and tanning their nether regions. Yes, 109 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: that's what's in the trailer. That's what I discussed on MSNBC. 110 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: And you know, the question was posed, which I the 111 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: show tweeted out and I will be sure to share 112 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: it with all of you in the clip. But Katie asked, Danielle, 113 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: what do you see when you see this like trailer? 114 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: And I said, well, you know, I'll be honest with you, 115 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: I've never seen a better example of white male fragility 116 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: in my entire life than a Tucker Carlson and b 117 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: this trailer, right, And the fact that the more that 118 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: we discuss equity, the more that we deviate from the 119 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: lens of sis white straight men in this country, the 120 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: more terrified Tucker Carlson and all of his white male 121 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Fox News viewers become, you see, because in order for 122 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: them to succeed, subjugation is necessary. Does that sound like 123 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: strength to you? No? It sounds like really small, fragile 124 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: people that in order to feel big and strong, need 125 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: to step on other people because they believe that that's 126 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: a sign of strength. You see, Tucker Carlson is terrified 127 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: about what is going to happen to what he believes 128 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: as an endangered species, the straight white Republican male. My god, 129 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: if we're not chaining women to children and inside of 130 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the household, if you're not able to beat and kill 131 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: and disparage black people, right, then how will we know 132 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:48,239 Speaker 1: that we're better than everybody else? Right? That's the mindset 133 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: of Tucker Carlson and the entirety of the white men 134 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: who watch Fox News. So I will say say this, 135 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: there are many pressing issues many there are tons of them. 136 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Not one of them has to do with the testosterone 137 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: levels of white men that are worthy of a documentary, 138 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: None of them. But my god, does this man screaming 139 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: at the top of his lungs frantically about testosterone levels 140 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: and masculinity and toxic masculinity at that give you everything 141 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: that you need to know about Tucker Carlson and the Trumpers, 142 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the trump Men. So I don't know, friends, what this 143 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: New Week will bring us but coming up next my 144 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner to walk us through 145 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: where we are in terms of the House Commission, the 146 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: one six Commission, whether or not this is going to 147 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: be the week that they refer write a letter to 148 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice that they refer Donald Trump and 149 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: company receive criminal charges because of the detailed investigation and 150 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: now to Glenn's point, over nine hundred interviews that they 151 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: have done that are leading us in one direction, in 152 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: one direction only, which is Donald Trump needs to be 153 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: criminally indicted. And Glenn and I will go through why 154 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the tepidness? What the hell we are waiting for? Are 155 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: we waiting for Republicans to take back over right the 156 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: House and the Senate to make a absolute mockery right 157 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: of what is left of our democracy and our government 158 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: structures and agencies? Is that what we are waiting for. 159 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: That conversation, folks, is coming up next, folks. As always, 160 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: you know that I am thrilled when I have the 161 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with our friend Glenn Kirshner, a 162 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: host of Justice Matters and an MSNBC legal analyst. Glenn, 163 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: so let me tell you that when I heard the 164 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: news with regard to the one six House Commission and 165 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: the fact that there was a possibility that they were 166 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: split on whether or not to go the whole marathon, 167 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: not just twenty six miles, but the point two, which 168 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: would be to end with a referral to the Justice 169 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Department for criminal charges for Donald Trump. The murmurings are, well, 170 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: we don't want to hamper what the Justice Department is 171 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: already doing. We don't want to, you know, speed up 172 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland's glacial like pace. We don't want to do 173 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: these things. What was your reaction when those stories started 174 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: to perculate out. Yeah. I think people tend to overthink 175 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: this stuff sometimes, Danielle. I've heard some of the analysts say, well, 176 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: if they make criminal referrals, then people will attack anything 177 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice does as being politically motivated. I'm sorry, 178 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: no matter what the Department of Justice does, they will 179 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: be attacked for doing it based on politics and not 180 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: based on the facts and the law once they start 181 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: dropping indictments on these people. So I don't know why 182 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: we fall into the trap of deciding we have to 183 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: depart from doing what's right for fear of what the 184 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: wrong People will say, and how they'll try to spin 185 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: it and mischaracterize it to criticize us. That's insane. So 186 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: I think Representative Jamie Raskin laid that to rest last 187 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: nights Hayes, and I can quote precisely what it's said, 188 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: because it's actually encouraging for a couple of reasons. First 189 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: of all, he said, the truth is coming out in 190 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: these hearings we're holding behind closed doors. He said, regarding 191 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: criminal earls, we have not been shy about criminal evidence 192 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: we've encountered, and our report will be profuse in setting 193 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: forth crimes that have not yet been alleged. And then 194 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: he said about the public hearings, it will be both 195 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: agonizing and riveting for the country to see just how 196 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: close we came to losing it all. But Representative Raskin said, 197 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't understand what the media is talking about when 198 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: they say we're not going to make criminal referrals. We 199 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: haven't been shy about it before, we won't be shy 200 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: about it in the future. And you know, I think 201 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: when we see all of the criminality that they have 202 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: captured in evidence, evidence that can be used by the 203 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. When the J six Committee is done. 204 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna just sort of knock the wind out of us, 205 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: and it will give even more reason for DJ to 206 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: have to indict these people, which I still believe they will. 207 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: You know, Glenn, the Justice Department, these are your old cronies, right, 208 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: many of them, I'm certain of probably still there. But 209 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: you have an inner working and understanding. What are we 210 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: missing here in terms of the pace that Merrick Garland 211 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: and team are working at Because to your point, to 212 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: Congressman Raskin's point, the evidence is overwhelming, and yet we 213 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: keep hearing this same phrase, Oh, I don't we don't 214 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: want to be perceived as if we're playing politics. I'm 215 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: confused because I don't know what other kind of game 216 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: you play in Washington, DC but politics, Right Like, I 217 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: don't know what else you would call trying to overthrow 218 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the government from inside the White House, other than playing politics. 219 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: So we have the evidence and the public on our side, 220 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: why do we still hear about this tepidness? So if 221 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: we're missing anything, we're just missing sort of the culture 222 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: and the mindset of federal prosecutors. Because I was on 223 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: the inside for decades, I had to fight my own 224 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: superiors at the Department of Justice at times to bring 225 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: cases that were maiden legal voyages that presented novel issues 226 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: where there was no rock solid precedent to support what 227 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, even though it was the right 228 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: thing to do based on perhaps a new and novel 229 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: set of facts. I sometimes had to fight. I did 230 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: it three times. I had to fight to bring novel cases. 231 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: I won approval to bring all three. I lost one 232 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: of those three, and I won the other two. I 233 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: was never afraid to lose, you know, you know, there's 234 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: no shame in losing, But there's nothing but shame in 235 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: declining to bring a righteous case for fear of losing. 236 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: So the only thing that I think we're missing is 237 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: that there's a reason the perception is that the FEDS 238 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: never lose a case. It's because they rarely bring very difficult, 239 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: challenging novel cases. And this is a challenging and novel case, 240 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: not on the facts. The facts prove a thousand times 241 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: over Donald Trump committed any number of crimes against the 242 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: people of the United States, but it is still novel 243 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: and challenging to prosecute a former president of the United States. 244 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that I think people on the 245 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: outside are missing. The timidity and the handwringing and the 246 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: legal navel gazing of some of the folks at the 247 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: Department of Justice can be paralyzing. They can often find 248 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: all sorts of reasons to decline to bring a case 249 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: rather than bringing a challenging case where there's a risk 250 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: they might lose. So that, I think is why this 251 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: thing is moving so slowly, at a glacial pace, as 252 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: you put it. I do believe this iceberg is going 253 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: to ultimately bump into a big old indictment and these 254 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: cases will be indicted, but not quickly enough. And I 255 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: just hope that these cases are indicted in time for 256 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: our democracy to recover, because that's an open question. You know. 257 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: One of the things that I want to also bring 258 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: up with regard to Representative Raskin's comments on all In, 259 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: which is the fact that you know, he's saying, how 260 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: close we almost came to losing our democracy. The reality 261 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: is is you know, to quote somebody that I don't 262 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: really like, Bill Maher, he said, this is a slow 263 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: moving coup, right, So we didn't actually stop anything. We 264 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: hit pause. And so for me, when I even hear 265 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: members that I agree with and I'm always one hundred 266 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: percent in Raskins camp. It is the fact that I 267 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: believe that they think that this ended on one six, 268 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: when we were finally able to get people out of 269 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: the Capitol Building, as opposed to making the connection with 270 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: this ongoing coup, with the legislation that is being put 271 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: out across this country, whether it's abortion or don't say gay, 272 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: or voter suppression laws, and then the continue continuation of 273 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: the Big Lie. The other thing that is that again 274 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be going after the architects and those 275 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: that are not just the foot soldiers that entered the 276 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: Capitol Building that day. Where are we as a country 277 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: in investigating whether or not one of our sitting Supreme 278 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Court justices, you know, maybe compromise because his wife was 279 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: going back and forth with then Chief of Staff Mark 280 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: Meadows on the day of the insurrection. I don't know 281 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: where we are, but I haven't heard any announcement that 282 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: either of the judiciary committees in the House or the 283 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: Senate is contemplating opening a hearing. I think we should 284 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: open an impeachment inquiry. I'm not saying we need to 285 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: rush to impeachment, but we do need to rush to transparent. 286 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: We need to figure out why Justice Thomas violated every 287 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: rule of ethics when it comes to a judge removing 288 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: himself or herself from a case in which they have 289 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: a conflict. He presided over a case involving whether his 290 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: wife's incriminating let's call them what they are, text messages 291 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: to Mark Meadows should be buried from the J six 292 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: Committee in public view, or should be revealed and run 293 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: the risk of incriminating his wife. There's not a judge 294 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: in the United States that doesn't understand other than Clarence Thomas, 295 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: and he fully understands it out that you must remove 296 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: yourself from a case in which you have a family 297 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: conflict right a family's interest at stake. And here's what 298 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: this has proved. It's proved that the Supreme Court cannot 299 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: be trusted to police itself, and we need to do 300 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: something about that. It's a challenge because of the separation 301 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: of powers, and it's hard for Congress to do anything 302 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: to install any sort of oversight or guardrails on the 303 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. But what you have to do is open 304 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: a hearing, an impeachment inquiry, to see whether articles of 305 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: impeachment against Justice Thomas are the right thing to do 306 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: to help restore the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, because 307 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: right now the legitimacy of the Supreme Court is about 308 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: as low as it could yet, and it's about to 309 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: make all kinds of decisions that may end up revoking 310 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: women's constitutional privacy rights for example. You know, this is 311 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: a toxic mix and a potentially explosive mix. When you 312 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: have an illegitimate court about to revoke women's constitutional privacy rights. 313 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: How long? How long will the people of our nation 314 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: accept this? You know, I would never advocate violence, but 315 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, these people are creating a powder keg right, 316 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: and they better start working to enhance the integrity and 317 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: the legitimacy of the institutions of government, not continue to 318 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: tear them down. I just you know, I got to 319 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: tell you when you say that you and you lay 320 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: these things out, because I have been saying for so 321 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: long on this show that I believe that things are 322 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: going to get bloodier before they get better. And I 323 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: don't advocate for violence at all, but when you create 324 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: the conditions for you know, for economic devastation, for lack 325 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: of transparency and integrity in our in our government agencies. 326 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: When you're seeing the poll numbers not only for the 327 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, but for the President of the United States 328 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: Congress as a whole, you know, in the toilet, what 329 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: that tells us is that all is not well right, 330 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: and there's all only so much pressure that you can 331 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: put on people before they explode. You know. I want 332 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: to talk a bit more about where we are with 333 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: the insurrection because several things have again come to light, 334 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: and I just notice in media that they are not 335 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: making front page news, such as Donald Trump Junior's text messages. 336 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Since we're talking about text messages, the number of text 337 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: messages that went and said, we own all the paths 338 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: to power? How is how is Don Junior still walking 339 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: around Glenn, We own all the paths to power? So 340 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: what that alerts is that they knew they lost. They 341 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: knew they lost. So again the denial and the lies around, oh, 342 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: we just wanted to certify and make sure that this 343 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: election was free and fair. They knew that they lost. 344 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: And what Don Junior's text message allows us to get 345 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: an insight into is that they did not care. The 346 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: treasonous bravado of Don Junior's text to Mark Meadows and 347 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: not only we own all the paths to power, but 348 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: on November fifth, before the votes were counted, before the 349 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: election was called, he said my father's He actually said, potuses, 350 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: my father's second term must start now before the election 351 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: votes were even tallied. That is so deeply treasonous in 352 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: the lay sense of trees and not in the legal 353 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: sense that how can that not earn Don Junior on 354 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: a you know, as a key defendant in the conspiracy 355 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: indictment to commit offenses against the United States by overturning 356 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: the results of an election. He said it. I mean, 357 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: he just said, my father must be installed as president 358 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: now before the election results are even final, before a 359 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: president has been announced. That is that's insanity, it's criminality. 360 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: And yet when there's so much criminality going on, it does, 361 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: and when everything now is overshadowed by the war in Ukraine, 362 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: you know, we are left to wonder will any of 363 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: this ever come home to roost. I still think it will, 364 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: but you know, as each day passes, I get a 365 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: little less confident that DJ will end up doing, you know, 366 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: what it needs to do to save our democracy, to 367 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: give it a fighting chance, because if you wait too long, 368 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: we will lose it all. So Don Junior is yet 369 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: another spoke in the wheel of the hub and spoke 370 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: conspiracy that is Donald Trump and all his criminal associates. 371 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, not to mention, you know, the casual and 372 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: US and the two billion dollars that Jared Kushner was 373 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: able to recoup from Mohammed bin Salam post Donald Trump's presidency, 374 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: after his own advisors. I mean, when the advisors, when 375 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: the Saudi advisors are saying to MBS, oh he is 376 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: not actually you know, on the up and up. He 377 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: doesn't really have much business acumen and we may not 378 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: want to get in bed with him. But then he 379 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: decides to give him two billion dollars. Anyway, what is 380 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: that a payoff for? But nobody's investigating that. But we 381 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: got Fox News still talking about Hunter Biden's laptop, not 382 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: two billion dollars that were that was given to Jared Kushner, 383 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: not these text messages that went from Don Junior to 384 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows the day before the election. And you know, 385 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: you say, and we need action so that we have 386 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: time to restore our democracy. But as I list out 387 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: these things, Glenn, I don't know if restoration is actually 388 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: possible because the corrosion is so deep, right, the corrosion 389 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: is so deep, and the desire to make any moves 390 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: to the contrary to show some fighting spirit seems to 391 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: be non existent. Yeah, if restoration wasn't a possibility, you know, 392 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I think I would just kind of pack up my 393 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: little camera gear and go to Mexico and get my 394 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: PBR and just sit there and drink and just you know, 395 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: call it a day. Wait, But I still think, I 396 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: still think restoration is possible. So lastly, we had another 397 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: decision with one of the foot soldiers in in the insurrection. 398 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: These cases have started to trickle in with um, you know, 399 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: with decisions coming in. We had one that was completely exonerated. 400 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: We've had others where we've looked at sentencing to a 401 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: matter of months to a couple of years. What's the 402 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: significance with the most recent insurrectionist and how they decided 403 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: to plead their case. That makes it interesting for the 404 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: larger scope that we're waiting on the DJ four. Yeah, 405 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: yesterday's guilty verdicts across the board, guilty verdicts against the 406 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: defendant named Dustin Thompson are actually pretty significant. Dustin Thompson 407 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: argued to the jury, his lawyer argued quite effectively, I 408 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: will say, and he testified at his own trial that listen, 409 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I only came to DC on January sixth because the 410 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: President told me to. And I only marched on the 411 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: Capitol because the President told me to, because he said 412 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: that my vote had been stolen from me, and the 413 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: election was stolen and it wasn't legitimate. My president was 414 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: being stolen from me. Joe Biden was not going to 415 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: be a legitimate president. And he told me go to 416 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: the Capitol and fight like hell, or you won't have 417 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: a country anymore. And I love my country, and I 418 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: listened to my president. He told me those things. I 419 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: didn't think he was lying to me. And so there's 420 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: a couple of really important takeaways from more and more 421 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: of the insurrectionists who are mounting that defense. The first 422 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: takeaway is that's not a legal defense. Sorry about your luck, 423 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: but I believe, I absolutely believe that mister Thompson and 424 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: so many of these other insurrectionists did what they did 425 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: because Donald Trump lied to them, told them their vote 426 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: was stolen, and told them they have to march on 427 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: the Capitol and stop the certification. So it's not a 428 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: legal defense. It's not a factual defense. The jury convicted 429 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: them basically before they even had enough time to pick 430 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: a foreman. They just banged three hours. They banged them 431 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: out guilty on all six counts. It is a mitigator 432 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: because it's not like this guy just woke up and said, 433 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to go attack the capitol. This guy said 434 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: the President told me to attack the capitol, so I'm 435 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: going to do what the President tells me because I 436 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure this stuff 437 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: out for myself. That's a mitigator. So maybe he gets 438 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: lesser punishment than if he was just an abject criminal 439 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: who did this for fun. Right. But here, I think 440 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: is the most important takeaway at Donald Trump's trial for 441 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: inciting the insurrection, which I believe will happen someday. Now, 442 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: you take Dustin Thompson to put him on the stand 443 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: as a prosecution witness against Donald Trump. You say, mister Thompson, 444 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: please tell this jury what you told your jury about 445 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: why you attacked the capitol. And he repeats all these things, 446 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: and if he doesn't, you impeach him with his transcript, 447 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: and you use his trial testimony to prove all of 448 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: this to the jury and say thank you, mister Thompson, 449 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: and you turn to the jury and say, ladies and gentlemen, 450 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: there is proof positive that Donald Trump incited directed the insurrection. 451 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: Find him guilty. So what DJ is doing by bringing 452 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: all of these lesser cases against Donald Trump's foot soldiers 453 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: is they are building an evidentiary record that they can 454 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: then use to indict, prosecute, and convict Donald Trump and 455 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: the others who are responsible for inciting the insurrection. So 456 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: there is some good coming out of these prosecutions. Last 457 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: question for you today, Glenn, will we be hearing will 458 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: we be seeing these public hearings in the way that 459 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: we sat through Benghazi, which came up with zero goose egg, 460 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing but a media smear campaign against Hillary Clinton 461 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: before she was going to run for president. When is 462 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: that going to happen? The latest, the latest I think 463 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: word we got from any member of the J six 464 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: committee was, I think a few weeks ago they said 465 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: they were hoping for late April. Then I may have 466 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: heard somebody say may, but I can't swear to it. 467 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: My guess is it's going to be late spring, early summer. 468 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: And as Representative Raskin said, it will be both agonizing 469 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: and riveting for the country to see this evidence, this testimony, 470 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: which will include evidence of crimes that nobody has seen yet. 471 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: And he also said, by the way, there have been 472 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: a number of heroes that have emerged in the testimony 473 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: of these eight approaching nine hundred witnesses, and he said, 474 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: we're going to make sure we highlight them as well. 475 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: These god these folks understand, these men and women on 476 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: the committee understand the importance of this hearing may be 477 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: important beyond any public hearing we've ever had in our nation, 478 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: and I do think that will help momentum gather for accountability. 479 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: I still think the Department of there have been reports 480 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: in recent weeks they've expanded their criminal probe with the 481 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Grand Jury issuing subpoenas to people in Trump's orbit that 482 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: we haven't heard about. So what we know, Danielle, based 483 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: on that reporting is there have been Grand jury subpoenas 484 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: going out to former officials in Trump's orbit, as the 485 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: Washington Post reported, and we haven't heard anything about it. 486 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: So what does that tell us? Yes, they are investigating, 487 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: and it's not leaking in the way it typically would. 488 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: So let's hold on to that and you hope that 489 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: they're doing whatever we kind of suspect they're doing. They're 490 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: doing it, you know, a hundredfold. I mean, God willing, 491 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Glenn As always, thank you so much for making the 492 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: time to join wike AP and walk us through this 493 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: slow walk that we're doing to justice. But God willing 494 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: we get there sometime soon and in enough time to 495 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: actually save restore our democracy. We appreciate you. Thank you, Danielle. 496 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: That is it for me today here on Woke f 497 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: AS always. Power to the people and to all the people. Power, 498 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.