WEBVTT - Twihard Knock Life (feat. Peyton Dix) 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:09.440 One, two, three. Hey, it's sad as if we were 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.560 to pretend briefly that we were on Shade As this show, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.680 it would just be like whoake moment, White woman in 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.960 You know what is one of my number one fantasy 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:28.920 is what is it? It's being bitten by a vampire 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.760 or alternately being a vampire and biting someone. But you know, 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.560 you know that I'm a spooky, spooky, ooogy, spooky vampire girl. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.640 And in my youth that meant I was really obsessed 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.000 with Buffy the vampire slayer interview with the vampire, and 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.760 then you know, vampires kind of like weren't as cool 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.840 for a minute, I think after Buffy ended and they 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.880 became that bitch again with the Twilight song written by 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:07.280 Stephanie Meyer and then turned into a film franchise starring 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:12.000 Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson. Say, I well, was bored 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.280 one summer and read all the books, and I have 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.640 been on that train ever since. And I have been 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.120 trying to force you to watch the Twilight movies for 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:28.400 so long. Finally, on this past Halloween, we watched Twilight 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.200 together and now we're going to talk about it with 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.160 like the only Twilight stand in the world paying dicks. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.880 This is like a Virgin the show where we give 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:42.200 yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm Rose, damn you, and 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.240 I'm Fran Toronto. Before we sink our teeth into Twilight, 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.560 we are going to talk about what's going on in 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.160 pop culture, you know, give a little bit of a 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.160 look ahead. Ato. Now that it's a new year, new 0:01:55.240 --> 0:02:02.840 me knew us us. I know that we both saw 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.960 what is my favorite Marvel franchise, maybe in small part 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.600 because I was a preteen and this is you know, 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.400 essentially a twink that squirts come out of his hands. Uh, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:19.959 Spider Man, no way else. Look, that's true, That's literally true, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.120 Like we were teenagers. There's something kind of coming about this, 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.720 Like you know, cartoon comic book series. I loved reading 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.720 it as a kid. Um, this is like my favorite 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.919 superhero of all time. So I had really high X 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.720 Spider Man really absolutely, you can shame you all you want. 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:39.480 I have no powers are so lame. Uh, I I 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.760 actually can't even I can't even hear to tell me 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.959 Spider Man is cooler than the Storm from X Men. No, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.679 not Storm, but cooler than a lot of other superheroes 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.880 for sure. But that's the thing that I love about 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.560 Spider Man, and something that I loved about this iteration 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.520 of him in the latest movie No Way Home, was 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.520 that the thing that I've always loved about him, in 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.400 addition to a sense of humor, which I think is 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.760 very singular, is that he's like a really sensitive guy. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.720 And there there's a lot about his superheroism that like 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.480 isn't is kind of like wrapped up in his very 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.160 like kidlike heartful decision making skills, and like, I thought 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.079 that this movie handled that so well in such a 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.000 beautiful way. What did you think of the movie? You know, Listen, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.120 I tend to like some of the more off the 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.440 beaten path superheroes rather than kind of like the Big 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.760 three that get reinterpreted over and over again Batman, Superman, 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.280 Spider Man, Like I think we've seen enough of them, 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.960 But that is like kind of the idea that this 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.400 movie is based off of. It is like, we have 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.520 all these spider Men, let's throw them together. And like 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.440 I will admit that I did even though I like 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.680 knew it was coming, not because I'd seen spoilers, but 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.080 like we all knew Andrew Garfield and Tolby McGuire, we're 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.480 going to show up. But when they did, I still 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.720 felt giddy. And I haven't even seen that Andrew Garfield 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.120 Spider Man movie. You know, when we I loved the 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.080 Tubby McGuire movies, I think I kind of forget I 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:10.680 like to the first two. The third one, well, the 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.760 third a third one nobody likes. Um. I mean the 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.840 third one is very camp. I think it's very fun 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.920 to watch, but for me, like you kind of forget 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.520 that all the villains are like these prestige actors. It's 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:27.400 giving very much like Harry Potter, like where every actor 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.160 is like well has been dominated for an Oscar. Yeah, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.400 and so like I actually love like as a kid. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.680 I don't think I caught onto like the nuances of 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.960 at Willem Dafoe performance, but when he comes back it 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.240 it is so like it balanced like drama with I 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.000 think a kind of camp that like Willem Dafolk kind 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.039 of brings into a role in a really funny way. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.839 It did almost feel like a character from an A 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:56.600 twenty four movie, like found his way into a Spiderman film. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.520 Those that is such a whip smart assessment, but something 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.200 else as ros mentioned. The fact that they were all 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:09.800 able to perform an extremely different kind of sensitive guy 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.800 was so funny. And the way they like had these 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.120 kind of little moments of bickering that were kind of 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.159 revolving around how sensitive they all are and how like 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.800 kind of like you know, kid like they are still 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.240 was so like well done. I thought Andrew Garfield's Spider 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.960 Man specifically was just really nuanced and self aware. It 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.039 was great, But I mean, the big takeaway of the 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.320 Multiple Spider Man for me was that Andrew and Toby 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.719 should have kiss should have There was a there was 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.800 a vibe that scene where they like did the backcracking. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.760 Oh my god, hello there, mama. That was a fan 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.920 fiction waiting to be rid. Speaking of fan service, this 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.880 is also, you know, the first time in Marvel history 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.960 where they made an entire movie using only a meme 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.080 as source material, which is the three Spider Man spointing 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.159 at each other. But the movie just kept like winning 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.119 me back, you know what I mean. Like when doctor 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.320 Strange came in, I was like, is this too many characters? 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.159 But then I was like, actually, doctor Strange is a 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.719 great character, and and it's really really funny and like 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.680 grounded the film in in in an interesting way, and like, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.480 like there's a moment that Andrew Garfield has that brings 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.120 a lot of closure to his own film franchise, and 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.880 I was like, oh, is this too much closure? But 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.720 then that moment happened, and like that was just so yeah. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.960 I was like, I just like my heart just broke. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.880 It was so well done. I just thought the movie. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.920 It was my number one of the year period. I 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:42.880 loved really, absolute, absolutely well. Speaking of wizards, as Doctor 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.000 Strange was you know a wizard in in Spider Man. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.360 I think you haven't watched it, but the Harry Potter 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.120 twenty Year of Union just came out on hreo. Max. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.640 I'm going to go fresh my coffee while you talk 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:59.640 about this one second. Oh thanks, thanks. I mean our 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.280 first episode ever was about Harry Potter, so I feel 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:08.120 like it must be discussed. Listen. It was kind of boring. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.200 What kind of interesting tasts do you have for us? Rows? Well, 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.160 I think the most The funniest thing to me was 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.560 that I was really curious about what they were going 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.880 to do about the you know she who must not 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:25.600 be named of it at all? Um she did appear. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.880 There were a couple of interview segments with her, but 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.840 while everyone else's like interviews were presented just like as 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.560 they were all of hers, had a little box on 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.320 the side that said recorded in twenty nineteen to make 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.120 it very clear, like we filmed this before she came 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.120 out as a turf, which I just thought was like 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:53.240 very like interestingly self aware, and it made me curious 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.920 just like about the future of the way that she 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.920 will interact with Harry Potter as it's presented to a 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.760 mainstream audience. You know, these like anniversaries will keep happening. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.840 We have the secrets of Dumbledore coming out. This sear 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.400 like Harry Potter is not going anywhere and she will 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.200 forever be connected to it. So like how is that 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.080 going to be man not to get like two into 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.520 the weeds of it. But like I think that if 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.200 you're going to involve JK Rolling, that little box should 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:29.840 say like j K. Rowling said, X, Y and Z, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.520 and these are things. This is context that is important 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.960 for you to know when you consume things about her, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.000 you know what I mean, Like we said on episode one, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.640 like the key to like getting out of this is 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.200 not saying like cancel j K rolling, she's out, like 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.480 we're never seeing her again. It's that history has to 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:51.520 stick to her in order for us all to collectively 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.240 move on and to continue to like consume the things 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.480 that we love, which is Harry Potter. You know, it 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.760 did make me think thank god J R. Tolkien like 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:04.920 died decades ago, because if he had Twitter, like we 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.200 would not have been able to do our New Year's Eve. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.920 Lord of the Rings rewatched because I'm sure he would 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.760 be canceled. Canceled. Yeah, I mean, I it's so I 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.040 really missed those movies. That was like really as satiating rewatching. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.839 Any key takeaways from watching the first Lord of the 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.360 Rings movie. Um, for the thousandth time, it is just 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:29.160 so gay. It's so gay, Like there's no women except 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.439 r Owen, who's like like you know, she like comes 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.280 in in the scene and like does it dip and 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:41.320 like say its fronto and like yes, queen. Um, I've 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.079 loved when Bilbo turns into a monster and it is 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:50.480 essentially like deassified. Um he hit the anti sleigh button. Yeah, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.120 he does get yasified for for for the second movie, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:58.200 doesn't he also? Like, Um, Gandalf and Saramon are very 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.240 much like you know says like you get that energy 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.160 a lot. There's just tension that I didn't see there 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.400 when I watched it, you know, as a teen, and 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.280 I was a super fan. Rose was a super fan. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.480 I owned like the visual companions, I owned, like the 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.840 ring from like the official catalog that I wore around 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.400 my neck like I was that girl. I honestly, I'm 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.360 going to watch the second and third movies now. I 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.839 I need I will be as well, because I need 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.920 something to keep me busy um between Sunday's. Literally, all 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.959 I do now is wait for a new episode of 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.000 Yellow Jackets to come out. Okay, fran you finally watched 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.120 it last night, finally. What do you think this episode? Well, 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.760 I feel a little goaded. I feel like you told 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.199 me that this franchise was not scary. And the opening 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.480 scene is a woman getting like impaled in a grave 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.000 and like a scary mask guy. And well, you and 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.360 I just have different ideas of what scary is. So 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:02.320 I think it's more of a you know, gory psychological thriller. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.360 I would not call it scared. I would I will say, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.480 you know, a a warning to the stoner's out there. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.439 This is a braided narrative. Okay, so braided narratives are 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.800 extremely difficult to follow and comprehend when you're stoned. And 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.800 this is like a basically two timelines alongside each other, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.960 one in the future, one in the past of a 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:32.480 kind of dystopian Lord of the Flies esque survival story. Yeah. Someone, um, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.960 someone I follow on Twitter. His name's Nolan. He's so funny. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:41.600 He put it really perfectly yesterday he said, um, yellow 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:46.079 Jackets is lost for swift ease and could not be 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.319 more true, and that that is truly all you need 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.360 to know and the best recommendation I can give anyone. Obviously, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.719 we can't get get really two into it because fran 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.720 I don't want to spoil it for you. I don't 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.800 care about spoiling our listeners, but you I want you 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.120 to able to experience it. But you know, the girls 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:08.640 are girling. Everyone is so good. Juliette Lewis, Oh my god, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.480 Tawny Cypress is like a revelation to me. I think 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.760 she's so amazing. Christina Ricci, oh my god. And Melanie 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.960 Lynskey say her name. I have been standing her since 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.600 ever after in Coyote Ugly and I'm happy to see 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.720 her like getting these roles that give her a little 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.440 bit more of what she's do And there's a moment 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.320 coming you'll see in a few episodes in where Christina 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:37.640 Ricci does something too a song from Fandom of the Opera, 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.200 and it's just like the best thing I've seen on 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.000 TV and forever. Of course it has to do with 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.120 fanom of the Opera in some way. Of course, of course, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.680 you know, I'm sorry to bring it up, but I 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.880 haven't seen you in a while. And the last episode 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.400 of End just like that was worth a brief discussion. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:02.600 Um started with shady As saying, yes, Queen, Oh my god, 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:08.280 electric chair what Although I do have to say I 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.320 really liked this episode. I think the episodes are getting 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.760 better and better. I mean, like they still contain these 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:21.560 really cringing moments and awful writing. But I think the 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.560 scene with Miranda, despite the cringing nous of Jadaz like, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:33.040 was really good and I really loved the confrontation that 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.839 it led to between Carrie and Miranda. It felt like 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.360 that thing that Sex in the City did so well, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:45.640 which was taking heightened comedy, heightened sexuality, and heightened interpersonal 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.760 drama and blending them all together in a really perfect way. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.920 And then also what I loved in this most recent 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.760 episode was when Carrie texted Samantha about talking about her 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.440 on the podcast, and like the score came in and 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.000 it sound own did like the Sex and the City 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.040 theme music. It was like it was like a really subtle, 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.480 lovely little touch. Also, like you and I talked about 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.559 this kind of like I do think that the storyline 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.240 with Charlotte, which like is kind of separate from the 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.520 main drama about her child coming out as transfer, non 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.680 binary or whatever, like changing their name, Like, I think 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.000 it's kind of good. Like I think a lot of 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.720 this stuff that they're getting wrong with Jay, they're kind 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.360 of getting right in a way with Charlotte. Like on 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.920 its face, someone would look at that and be like, oh, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.280 they're dead naming their child, blah blah blah. But I 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.560 think that's actually a very realistic representation of what it 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.240 must be like to be a parent and to have 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.040 your child came out as trans. And I say this 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.560 as someone who came out as trans to their parents, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.280 you know, with the increased cringe genus of Miranda and Carrie, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.160 Charlotte is currently my favorite of the three and it's 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.120 because you're Charlotte. I am not Charlotte. How dare you? 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.480 That is slander? I will I will literally sue, call 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:12.600 my attorney, Call my attorney. Random that was so irresponsible, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.760 because you might be a little busy right now. Obviously 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.880 we are, I maybe taking out an extremely egregious error 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.520 of the episode where in Charlotte was trying to collect 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:29.560 black friends, which I'm really interested in whiteness, investigating whiteness 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.880 and white whiteness, critiquing whiteness. And I thought that there 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.720 was a lot of good stuff like that in that episode, however, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.360 not to the point of Charlotte needing to diversify her 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.840 friend groups so bad that she almost kidnaps her neighbor, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.080 Like it was hard to watch. Yeah, but I think 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:49.040 like that is kind of an honest depiction of people 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:55.600 who are trying to I don't know, like decolonize there. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.800 They're like social lives and like the way they interact 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.520 with the world, like making like dumb mistakes like that. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.800 I think that we as a group consueing this show 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.520 need to like see these characters as flawed, like it's 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.880 it's it's necessary to enjoy them and I think a 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.480 lot of people aren't catching onto that there needed to 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.760 be a brief moment of contention or explanation as to 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.280 why what Charlotte did was wrong, because I at the 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.880 end of the episode, you know, lt W was kind 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.680 of just like, oh yeah, don't worry about it, and 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.360 I was just like, uh, well, I mean that it is. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.280 It's trusting. It's trusting the viewer to be a little 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:40.240 smarter they're not. Also another thing, I saw this thing 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.000 on TikTok that was talking about how with Betty White's passing, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:49.160 someone was talking about how all of the women on 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.000 Sex in the City are the same age as all 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:57.480 the women were when Golden Girls started. Oh yes, mid fifties. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.040 Oh my god, and that the only difference, like the 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.280 main difference of why they look younger is their hair, 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.240 because the gold Golden Girls they all had you know, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.760 like grandma hair. My my brains started to wind together 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.679 a joke about Betty White being Carrie Bradshaw's last har crux, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.000 but I didn't quite didn't quite tie it together. So 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.399 I'll just say what our Carrie Bradshaws hardcrocks is. Okay. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.000 So the Manola blonics that got stolen yes um, which 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:33.080 she now has back, the Carrey necklace, the Carrie necklace, 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.919 her top evidently the heart of the ocean, as the 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.000 dol Chay co that she walked down the runway and 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.440 then it fell and then used as a blanket when 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.480 she had her first night back in her old apartment. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.760 Did you notice that moment? I didn't that it was 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.120 such a good fan service moment she wore the dol 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.960 chay coat that she fell in as a blanket. I 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.240 didn't notice that Stanford is one of her hor crux? 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.840 Is that's he's in Japan? Okay, the same way that 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:06.080 Neguini was one of Baltimore's hor CrOx? Is that a note, bitch, 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.560 I'm sorry I could have it could have been better written? 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.560 And then that posted that post. It is the last 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:34.240 of Carrie's horcros. Is that in case you hadn't picked 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.760 it up through context clues. Our guest today is social strategist, 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:44.160 Instagram diva, Twilight historian and all of our story her 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:52.560 historian and all around monster little monster. Okay, well let's 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:56.399 not do that. Peyton Dicks is here in the studio today. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.280 That was the most chaotic intro. I think I've ever 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.080 heard my life, but that only makes sense for this 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.800 scenario pretty so much for being here. I truly believe 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.440 that if we had a podcast, which we do, and 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.400 we were doing an episode of Twilight, which we are, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.639 but we had a guest who wasn't you, which we 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.639 would never do, I think like within six hours of 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.719 being released, a drone would strike me, because I do 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.320 think you have access to that kind of power. I do. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.240 There are people I know or you would send the 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:33.120 vaultry after right, where the hell have you been? Oh 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.760 my god? The first one of the yeah, yeah, more 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.840 to come. Don't think it ends there please. Some important 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.880 context I think to all of this is that Rose 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.399 and I have attempted to watch the first Twilight movie 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.280 several times. Okay, let's not okay, let's let's clear that up. 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.239 Because you have attempted to watch it, I have watched it. 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.199 What has happened is I have told friend many times 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.199 I love Twilight, let's watch it. And specifically, we were 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.679 on a vacation in Big Bear last November, and you know, 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.760 it was beautiful, it was snowing, and I said, bitch, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:10.280 we're watching Twilight. It is time. And we put the 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.280 first Twilight movie on and in five minutes, this girl 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:18.359 was dead to the world, asleep, stone and asleep. And 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.520 you know what I did, watched Twilight and the next 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.159 night Frand said, oh, let's watch the next one, so 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.959 we put on New Moon and my my favorite as well. Um, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.960 five minutes in she was asleep. I was watching New 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:37.080 Moon asleep. Next night, A clips this actually feels like 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:42.840 like targeted terrorism. Let's watch it. Just kidding. And then 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.960 when we left the vacation and went home, I watched 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.600 Breaking Dawn parts one and two because I was like, 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:50.879 I already watched the first three movies. I have to 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:56.080 have the whole experience. You gotta finish. Peyton, I want 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:01.679 you to tell us what your experience with Twilight. What 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.160 tell me about the like did you read the books first? 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.239 Did you watch the movies first? Like tell me how 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:07.720 you fell in love? I read the books, but I 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.160 actually only read them after I saw the movie because 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.159 I was just like, so that made me horny? What else? 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.600 And like waiting between movies for them to come out? 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.639 I was like, Okay, I need to get my fix 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.679 in between, and like I also the thing about me 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.400 is when you're a twyhard. You're naturally a yeah twyard, 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:33.200 let's just sit with that's what our community is called. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.880 You think the barbs are strong though, why hearts are stronger? 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:42.760 The overlap, Remember there's also a lot of overlap. You're 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.480 naturally a Crispian, which obviously, as we all know, is 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:49.000 a christ and Suward stand and I think I also 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.080 just awakened my at the same time, I think I 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:57.440 knew that I was just really gay. Um, and I 0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.280 was like, oh my god, I was imagining three songs 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:00.640 with Robert and Chris to and I was like, oh 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:03.679 my god, here it's happening. I'm a bisexual. And then 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.879 I was like, it's actually looking like Christian. It's actually 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.159 Christian is winning in this in this course, um, like 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.639 as she does. Anyway, I think like my love for 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.520 Twilight started with them and then moved to the books 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.680 and then back into the series in general. But I think, like, 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.360 I know, we'll get into this more later, but I'm 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.200 so interested in its renaissance now because it was something 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:29.040 that was like, of course, a huge I feel like 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.440 could following such the wrong word because it was huge. 0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:35.159 It was a blockbuster movement, It was a phenomenon. It 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.760 was a saga. It was a saga literally shaped culture. 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.800 It like changed the water did. Literally. It was when 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.159 we talk about cultural phenomenons and like the like, especially 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.159 young adult culture, It's like Twilight. It was Harry Potter 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:56.320 to Twilight to Hunger Games. I don't know what the 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:58.720 Twilight to fifty Shades of grat pipeline. We all fall 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.600 the true pipe. Um. But yeah, I think like for me, 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.320 I've been asked this question before and I literally don't 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.639 know if I have like the thing that sparked it. It 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.880 It just was like this makes sense, and I don't 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.800 even know if that's like I watched like Vampire Diaries, 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.680 but it's not that I'm like deep, okay, hot that's 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:23.000 getting becomes a vampire. It falls off right. It's like 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.159 I've actually had enough of this and it's just a 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:30.440 bad joke. I mean, I like shitty things. That's my taste. 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.080 Levels that I have terrible types. Absolutely absolutely. We talked 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.080 about this a little bit last night and Rose was 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.680 very defensive about like me being like, yeah, I feel 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.320 like there's this kind of like ironic, like so bad 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:45.520 it's good kind of element to Twilight. Um, but also 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.560 you know, I feel like this is like watching it. 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.080 There's I think that's part of what that when you 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.520 were saying the renaissance that it's in now, like so 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:54.520 much of it is like our love to like watch 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.600 things that are like kind of bad, along with like 0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:00.560 you know, lesbian subtext and like camp and Okay, but 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.800 we were arguing about this, which is that I think 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:08.200 when Twilight came out, it maybe people I think people 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.800 were earnestly enjoying it, and I think now I don't 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:15.480 think that people are liking it. Ironically, you know, the 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.240 reaction to Twilight when it came out, and I think 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.280