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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt Typically this is when we do the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: football focus to kick off hour number two, but we're

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Speaker 2: not going to do that today.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're throwing me a curveball.

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Speaker 4: Throwing your little curveball Tonight's game's not doing it for it.

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Speaker 2: It is not. Although no Keenan Allen, no Justin Herbert

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs declared out for this game.

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Speaker 4: He's a mere white like, which isn't the worst start

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Speaker 4: of ever white if you have to. Yeah, I'm playing

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Speaker 4: playing the Chargers d in my my main league. Khleil

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Speaker 4: Mackett six sacks against these guys in a revenge game

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Speaker 4: last time, and things are worse now.

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Speaker 3: Than they were then. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, Colton Miller, it's a good players aren't going to

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Speaker 2: play for these teams. This is going to look like

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Speaker 2: a college football game, which led me down. Let's take

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Speaker 2: a look at a mock draft today.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like Matt Miller put one out on ESPN Dot

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Speaker 2: com earlier this week, and we haven't talked about it yet.

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Speaker 2: So let's take a look at the latest mock draft

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Speaker 2: here by Matt Miller. At one, he has the Bears

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Speaker 2: taking Caleb Williams. I don't. I just don't think the

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Speaker 2: Bears are going to stick in that spot.

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Speaker 4: We can have this conversation for the next couple of months,

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Speaker 4: and it's a great one, and I love the conversations.

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Speaker 3: I think there's so many angles.

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Speaker 4: But my hunch is I don't think they let Matt

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Speaker 4: even put trades in. So he thinks Caleb's going one,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, that makes all the sense in the world,

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Speaker 4: you know, and any trade fields or whatever. But him

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Speaker 4: going one isn't going to affect the Steelers either way

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Speaker 4: now in terms of their draft pick, you know.

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Speaker 3: So here we go.

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Speaker 2: At number two, he has the Patriots taking Drake May

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Speaker 2: out of North Carolina the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Again, I know more about these prospects than the last

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Speaker 4: time we talked about them, but I will say there

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Speaker 4: are people I trust that like May more than Williams.

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Speaker 4: I mean that that's not a slam dunk. Most seem

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Speaker 4: to like Williams. But there'll be some debate. This is

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Speaker 4: end up going to maybe end up being in Maybe

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Speaker 4: they're both better. Maybe we'll see. Could be a Manning me, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: anything Wentz Golf. I mean, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 4: them in Harriota, Winston. You know, they don't end up

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Speaker 4: being Hall of Famers. But you know, right at.

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Speaker 2: Three, he has the Arizona Cardinals taking Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 3: I think you'd be pretty happy about that. All things

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Speaker 2: Why if I'm the Cardinals or the Bears, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: mind trading down a few spots.

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Speaker 4: And the problem is, I don't know if you can

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Speaker 4: trade at to four if you're the Bears and still

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Speaker 2: You know, well, and the Cardinals may not be there.

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Speaker 2: the problem is, right now, the Cardinals are three and ten,

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, so it looks like those three are going

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Speaker 4: it sure looks like Carolina is not moving out of one,

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Speaker 2: But if the Patriots somehow dropped too, If the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Patriots could and the Cardinals could win games. I

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Speaker 2: But five would be tough. But if if the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: But it would be interesting too.

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Speaker 2: But the entirety of the process here, don't discount another

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I mentioned Wentz.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well he'd love to get him Harrison.

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Speaker 4: This guy is an LSU quarterback, that's an extreme athlete

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Speaker 2: At five, he has the Commanders taking for Shaanu the

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Speaker 2: I watched him against Ohio State and he was getting owned.

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Speaker 4: It was his worst game of the year. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: At six, he has the Titans taking Dallas Turner, the

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Speaker 2: At seven, he has the Raiders taking JJ McCarthy, the

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Speaker 3: Not crazy, I mean where that what's their answer quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Just tried that with Jimmy Garoppolo. It didn't work out

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Speaker 3: I think Fields and Garoppolo are much.

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Speaker 3: And need to find something that's a bad situation.

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Speaker 2: At some points you just have to just say, you

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Speaker 3: And this isn't like my final evaluation order. I think

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Speaker 2: They don't let McCarthy throw the.

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Speaker 4: I get that, and they're you know, in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: and they've achieved their goal. But as it stands right now,

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Speaker 5: No, I don't either.

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Speaker 2: At eight, he has the Bears taking Malik Neighbors, the

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Speaker 2: At nine, the Jets take Joe alt the offensive tackle

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Speaker 2: At ten, the Chargers take brock Bauers, the tight end

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Speaker 4: There's a couple receivers, the Washington kid, the Florida State

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Speaker 4: More so, I try to listen to some draft podcasts,

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Speaker 3: I'm just kind of listening.

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Speaker 4: Like everybody else, and everybody's always like, I really want

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Speaker 4: to get Bowers in my top eighth. The same thing

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Speaker 3: But he's always a tough fit.

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Speaker 2: At eleven, the Falcons take Terry and Arnold the cornerback

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Speaker 4: Okay, so everyone's talking about kool Aid as being the

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Speaker 3: A lot of steam.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, young big, Yeah, he's a name. Siear fan should

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Speaker 2: At twelve vs. Seattle taking Jared Versary the edge out

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Speaker 4: State, Okay, people were talking about him as a top

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Speaker 4: ten pick and we're shocked he didn't come out last year.

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Speaker 4: Sounded like you do real good, not phenomenal season to

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Speaker 2: At thirteen, he has the Saints taking keyon Coleman, the

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Speaker 4: They could go so many directions. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: guess it'd be a good pairing with the Lave. Maybe

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Speaker 4: It's a really good receiver draft. There could be five

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Speaker 2: He is a Steelers picking at fourteen.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't taking a room a Dunezia Washington wide receiver

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. The only another wide receiver. You're not scoring points.

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Speaker 4: You're not scoring points. You live in eleven and you

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Speaker 4: have two good receivers. Why not make it three.

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Speaker 2: He's a monster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have no hesitation with that, except you're

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean you pay attention to him in the in

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Speaker 2: He is a he's a very good player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At fifteen, he has the Rams taking Tyler Geyton, the

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's tackles and receivers. They're going to be five

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Speaker 3: I mean, where are you picking? Where you're picking to?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like the Georgia tackle, the Bama tackle, all

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Speaker 2: At sixteen, he has the Colts taking kool Aid mckisstory

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Speaker 3: In some steam.

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Speaker 4: I don't know a ton about him. He was not

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Speaker 3: As the top guy.

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Speaker 3: Lot of fighting on who corner number one is.

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Speaker 2: At this point, the Bengals aren't finishing with a better

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Speaker 4: No, it's rough, it's really rough. It's funny that their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what. Yeah. Jison Newton, the defensive tackle out

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Speaker 3: He seems like the only pretty close to surefire d

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're assuming Readers who's undersized. Yeah, he's different than Reader. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Buccaneers take Xavier Worthy, the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: It's the highest FC and M go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's again a lot of receivers, a lot

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Speaker 2: At twenty the Cardinals. This is coming through Houston, by

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Speaker 2: Kaylin King, the cornerback out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Who's picking the Cardinals?

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Speaker 5: Cardinals?

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Speaker 3: Anything on defense? Yeah? Sure.

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Speaker 2: At twenty one, the Packers take J. C. Latham, the

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Speaker 4: Makes sense they could use. They always invest in lineman

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty two, the Vikings take Nate Wiggins, the cornerback

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Speaker 2: out of Clemson. This is where I think the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Him in here and Wiggans could be an option for

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Speaker 2: Too, another six foot two corner back.

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Speaker 3: Exactly outside corner.

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Speaker 4: It's a good draft forward and there's not Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 4: there's not Sauce or Stingley, but there's a lot that

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Speaker 4: seemed like they go from ten to twenty five, which

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Speaker 4: is probably what the Seelers going to pick.

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Speaker 2: At twenty three, he has the Bills taking Lay two

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Speaker 4: Most people think he's the best edge in this class,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got some medical.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, Yeah he does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a little more powerful than which I would

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Speaker 4: they're only worried about beating Mahomes and not being a

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Speaker 2: At twenty four, the Texans, just coming through Cleveland, take

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Speaker 2: Chop Robinson State.

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Speaker 3: They still have the Browns.

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Speaker 2: They still have a Browns first, the Browns.

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Speaker 4: I think he's only like two hundred and forty pounds

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Speaker 3: How much do you add, you know, value just a

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Jaguars take Xavier Leget, the wide

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one I know a little less about. He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six three to twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's shrugs tacklers off. I mean interesting, where'd they

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Speaker 4: have what.

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Speaker 2: Team Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Perceiver?

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Speaker 3: Ridley's up?

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Speaker 2: Ridley's up? Yeah, Okay, I don't think they resign him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not.

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Speaker 2: If you're not going to use him, don't resign him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty six, the Lions take Brian Thomas Junior, the

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Speaker 4: Really athletic, He's come on heavy in the draft world.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Neighbors is the more productive dude, But I

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Speaker 4: mean quarterback was a Heisman Trophy. And you have two

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Speaker 4: receivers in the first round. Yeah, Jamis and Williams though

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Speaker 4: city I think.

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Speaker 3: That'd be a defensive pick.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Yeah, I can't imagine another offensive player there.

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Speaker 4: I have seen two or three mocks with the Steelers

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Speaker 4: pick in the twenties with this guy going there, six

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Speaker 4: sixty four wide receiver like okay, big time athletes and

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Speaker 2: At twenty seven, the Chiefs take Donne Mitchell, the wide

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Speaker 4: Receivers Axas to LSU. Could be two Ohio State ones.

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Speaker 4: I mean this receiver class is loaded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and another one that's six ' four.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Remember last year they were all little Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All little guys last year. This year a lot of

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the Dallas Cowboys take JT toa Malahu,

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Speaker 4: He's the one that gave, He's the one that beat

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Speaker 4: up on Yeah, Penn State left tackle. Okay, really athletic dude.

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Speaker 4: What team was that, Dallas? I guess I could make

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Speaker 4: some sense. I don't know what their glaring needs are

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Speaker 4: going to be this year.

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Speaker 2: If any running back.

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Speaker 4: Would a big back, it's not a good running back

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Speaker 2: At twenty nine, the Eagles take Kamari Lassiter, the cornerback

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bradbury's really falling off. I mean we know that

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Speaker 4: Slay and Bradberry are both age.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At thirty the Dolphins. Dolphins are not going to be thirty.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that would be shocked. Kingsley sue, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, offense, I haven't said, say yeah, but another tack

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched by you yet. Yeah, another supposedly really

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Speaker 5: Well, they got to go line. Yeah, have two.

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Speaker 2: At thirty one, the Ravens take Chris Brasswell, the edge

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Speaker 4: Again, two edge rushers, from Bama to all these receiving pairings.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's talking about Turner, but this guy is a little

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Speaker 3: Which is a raven thing.

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Speaker 2: And then at thirty two, the forty nine ers take

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Speaker 3: That's another team that should go O line. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how long can you count on Trent Williams again? What

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Speaker 4: Tackles, six or seven maybe even eight wide receivers, no linebackers,

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Speaker 3: One tight end, and four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, four quarterbacks all in the top ten on the

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I know Pinnix has a knee.

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Speaker 4: Bo Nicks has some people concerned that he's more of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Florida State kids one to keep an eye

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Speaker 3: Is he out?

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Speaker 4: Is he definitely coming out? I don't know enough about him.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen him mocked in the first round.

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Speaker 2: That's why he's an athlete. Is coming off coming off

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Speaker 4: I think he's going back. It's still declaration time. They

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Speaker 4: And Senior Bowl announcements are coming around now, and those

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Speaker 4: then say and I'm gonna go to draft like you

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Speaker 4: would think you'd have to pick like I MEI or

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Speaker 3: I don't understand. The interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: the top quarterbacks that were quarterbacks at some of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it happens all the time. I just don't

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Speaker 2: Either that nobody stays in one spot.

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Speaker 4: No, then how much am I get paid here? Or

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Speaker 4: should I go to the league or I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it's right or wrong. I just feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I think that you know, if you're

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Speaker 2: when you initially sign with the school, it should be

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Speaker 2: for like you have to spend a minimum of two years.

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Speaker 2: There should be some sort of it's like a contract. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're getting paid now.

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Speaker 4: Especially getting paid yeah right, either way, it's like you

449
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Speaker 4: can't leave after X amount of days or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a wild west right now.

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Speaker 4: I think we're going to look back on it in

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Speaker 4: ten years and be like, what were we thinking with

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Speaker 4: things that idea? Yeah, I don't want my old job

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Speaker 4: back as recruitious did it pay?

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Speaker 2: Like?

457
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Speaker 3: I don't know how they keep tabs on anything?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Anyways, he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lalli.

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Speaker 2: That was Matt Miller's first round projection mock draft. Here.

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Speaker 2: We'll do a lot more, oh yeah, drafting stuff as

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Speaker 2: we get down the road here. But if you came

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Speaker 2: out this week, I thought we'd talk about it.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Football's everybody kind of knows what's what heading into.

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Speaker 4: I mean, start your best guys. Yeah, we'll still put

466
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Speaker 4: a lineup together all that stuff. Tomorrow, we'll do that.

467
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Speaker 2: Tomorrow, we'll put together our DFS lineup but start your

468
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Speaker 2: best guys. That's your but you know the guys, dance

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Speaker 2: with the ones who got you there.

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Speaker 4: And I bet I'm sure we have a lot of

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Speaker 4: new listeners since a draft. But we hit the draft heavy, folks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, and then that time comes around, we will

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Speaker 4: hit it heavy. We'll do mock drafts ourselves and all

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Speaker 4: that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Down the road, We're gonna take a break. We'll be

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Speaker 2: back with more in a drive.

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Speaker 5: After this.

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Speaker 1: List is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli he is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and you're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

483
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Speaker 2: And Matt Bill Barnwell put together a list here NFL

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Speaker 2: head coaching openings for twenty twenty four the best and

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Speaker 2: the worst jobs. Now he ranked ten of these. Chances

486
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Speaker 2: are we won't see all ten of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they'll be probably one that we don't expect

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Speaker 4: or who knows too, you know, right, I mean I

489
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Speaker 4: did look at them. There were one or two I thought,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that one's even gonna open but

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Speaker 4: what he.

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Speaker 2: Broke down here was ranking them in terms of whether

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Speaker 2: people will want this job and the most desirable job, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the most desirable of them. And it kind of gives

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Speaker 2: you an idea of what some of these teams are

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Speaker 2: facing here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think some of the most important

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Speaker 4: components are quarterback situation, what's my ability to improve the

500
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Speaker 4: roster in terms of caps, so draft tracks capital. Frankly,

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Speaker 4: maybe number one would be owner ownership. Yeah, ownership deal

502
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Speaker 4: one thing. It was two or three years ago. I

503
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Speaker 4: wrote an article and we did a bunch of podcasts

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Speaker 4: about it, like how would you rank your criteria? And

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Speaker 4: you know, the division would be one of them, like

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Speaker 4: the homes of my division.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't love that. You know, what's my.

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Speaker 4: Ability to get this thing turned around? And I notice

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Speaker 4: on here too, even mentioned things like stayed incompact. That's important. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean not only for me and my earning power,

511
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Speaker 4: but getting free agents to come there. I mean that

512
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Speaker 4: kind of stuff is important too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to be all end all, but certainly to me,

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Speaker 2: would ownership be number one?

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Speaker 4: I think it's number one, Yeah, ownership slash quarterback situation?

516
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Speaker 4: Maybe are you going to be given enough time right

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Speaker 4: to work at this show, like Carolina makes it tough

518
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Speaker 4: for me. Yeah, although he pays better than anybody, not

519
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Speaker 4: if you have to, but if yeah.

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Speaker 2: If I'm going to only get you know, six months

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Speaker 2: to turn this thing around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry.

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Speaker 4: So there's like Frank Reich right now is unemployed, but folks,

524
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Speaker 4: he's still getting a check.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's fine.

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Speaker 4: Don't weep for him, but he didn't get a real

527
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Speaker 4: chance to turn his panthers around.

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Speaker 2: The guys who get screwed in that situation end up

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Speaker 2: being the assistant coaches.

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Speaker 3: They asually have two year deal, Yeah, two.

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Speaker 4: Year deals, and the head coach gets fired and like,

532
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Speaker 4: I didn't make that much and now I'm unemployed.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have maybe one year a leeway.

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Speaker 4: But the other thing with ownership too, Like I know

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Speaker 4: the Chargers are gonna be on this list. I don't

536
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Speaker 4: know if he's a good owner or not, but I

537
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Speaker 4: know they haven't won the whole time they've owned the team,

538
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Speaker 4: whether they pay well or not, or they're meddlesome or not,

539
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Speaker 4: or or quick to pull the trigger or not. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to medal some owner that's not gonna let

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Speaker 4: me do things I want, you know, in terms of

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Speaker 4: team building or you know, always over my shoulder.

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Speaker 2: So number ten on this list are the Carolina Panthers,

544
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Speaker 2: the pro pros this job, young defensive talent, weak division

545
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Speaker 2: that's going leverage for a longer deal. The cons in

546
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Speaker 2: patient ownership questions about the quarterback and draft capital because

547
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Speaker 2: they gave up so much just to go out and

548
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Speaker 2: get the quarterback. That to me is the thing here

549
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Speaker 2: that's so shocking. You went out, you handpicked Frank Reich

550
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Speaker 2: to be the guy who helps you on quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get.

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Speaker 2: Mad at him. You know, I don't know how what

553
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Speaker 2: how much input Frank Reike had into picking the quarterbacks.

554
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Speaker 2: But did Frank Reike get fired because CJ. Stroud's better?

555
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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: And again that comes back to metal medaling ownership. I mean,

558
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Speaker 4: you might be great at hedge funds, but do you

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Speaker 4: know what a good NFL quarterback scouting system is? And

560
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Speaker 4: some of that I don't one hundred percent trust. Like

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Speaker 4: you hear things now, like the Carolina staff preferred Stroud, Well,

562
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Speaker 4: is that just people that are fired saying yeah I

563
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Speaker 4: would have picked Stroud, you know, leaking at the media.

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Speaker 2: Well, some of that when you when you talk about

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Speaker 2: medal someome owners. Some of this is does the owner

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Speaker 2: listen to people other who he should not be listening

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Speaker 2: to outside the organization, or or are our assistant coaches

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Speaker 2: or somebody else in the building coming in there and

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Speaker 2: undermining the head coach and saying well I would have

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Speaker 2: done this or I would have done that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem, right, exactly.

572
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Speaker 2: Like stability in Stability in the NFL matters, folks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm not saying I want an owner that

574
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Speaker 4: is living overseas and doesn't care like apparently like Tampa's

575
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Speaker 4: ownership cares more about their soccer team than their football team.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: I've just been told that whatever, Like mister Rooney's very involved,

578
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Speaker 4: He's in the building a lot like that doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: you're not meddlesome or not involved, Like it's your team.

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Speaker 4: Do whatever you want, you know, but don't tell me

581
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Speaker 4: that you because your buddy said Young's better than Stroud

582
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Speaker 4: or vice versa, and know better than my scouting staff

583
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Speaker 4: that's been watching every bit of film, it could have

584
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Speaker 4: been wrong. Yeah. Yeah, half the people like Leaf more

585
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Speaker 4: than Manning. Nobody says those things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nine is the Raiders the Pros. There's one no

587
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 2: state income tax. That's the pro That's tough. One man,

588
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Speaker 2: the cons erratic ownership, limited talent on roster, difficult division.

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Speaker 3: Did you ownership?

590
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think erratic ownership.

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00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 5: Erratic.

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Speaker 4: They've been good for forty years, folks, I mean they

593
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Speaker 4: really haven't been It's been many people's lifetime that have

594
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Speaker 4: not seen a quality Raiders product.

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Speaker 2: And they haven't been good since Mark.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and really the end of al Yeah, I mean

597
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Speaker 4: I was picking some crazy first one.

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00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Mark Davis has shown nothing to show that oh he

599
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Speaker 2: gets it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Na Mahomes a division. Yeah, that would be really

602
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Speaker 4: low on my list.

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Speaker 3: Those two. I'm not sure which owner is worse.

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Speaker 2: Number eight is the Saints. The Pros are a weak

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Speaker 2: division and big names on the roster.

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Speaker 3: Well that's not all expensive old yeah.

607
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: Cons the oldest team in the league. A terrible cap

608
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Speaker 2: situation and some missing draft capital.

609
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Speaker 3: Questionable quarterback situation too. Yeah. I mean Card's not cheap,

610
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Speaker 3: he's not young. He might not be the answer. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty low on the list. I mean

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Speaker 4: the other two should be above it, below it, however

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Speaker 4: you want to call it. But that's not a sweet job.

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Speaker 2: Number seven the Washington Commanders. Usually that would be worst.

615
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's some optimism now pros the halo effect

616
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Speaker 2: from new ownership. We don't know what the new ownership

617
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: down there is going to be like, but they have

618
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Speaker 2: a grace period with the fans.

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Speaker 3: Ding dong. The witch is dead though, you know, everyone's happy.

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Speaker 3: It's just not the old guy.

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Speaker 2: Low expectations, I guess. And then draft capital, so they

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Speaker 2: have draft picks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess who knows what the quarterback situation is all.

624
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Speaker 4: You didn't say the cons yet.

625
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: The cons subpar facilities, lack of star talent a key positions,

626
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Speaker 2: and the need to rebuild the culture.

627
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, quarterback is definitely a negative. I mean yeah, I mean,

628
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Speaker 4: I guess that counts as a key position, but I

629
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Speaker 4: would have I look at quarterback different they do left

630
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Speaker 4: tackle and corner and things.

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Speaker 3: Like that too.

632
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Speaker 2: Rebuilding culture, yeah, you either have culture or you don't

633
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: have culture.

634
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen overnight, and it.

635
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't happen overnight. You have to have the right guys.

636
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: I know people are questioning the Steelers culture right now.

637
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any on a you know, crazy change

638
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: in the Steelers culture. I still see older players helping

639
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: young players, and I still see you know, pride in

640
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: that locker room. Sometimes it's just a situation where you

641
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: don't have the talent of some of those other teams,

642
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: and elementically people point to the culture.

643
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 6: Well, this culture is no, I know. So much of

644
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: it comes down to people talk about culture. Did New

645
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 6: England's culture change or did they just lose Tom.

646
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: Brady and don't have anyone that gets open or you

647
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like they don't have any good

648
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: players on offense.

649
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: When you have a great quarterback, you have a great culture.

650
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: Nine times out of ten, ninety nine times out of

651
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Speaker 2: one hundred. Period.

652
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: No, I hear you. Washington's a rough job. I mean

653
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: you're a long way from Philly and that right now too.

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00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

655
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: And just in terms of competing in your division.

656
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Six The Tampa Bay Buccaneers pros talent

657
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, no state income tax

658
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: and an easy division.

659
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean it's nice to have Tristan Wurf's and Vitavea.

660
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: If some guys cons no franchise quarterback in a difficult

661
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: cap situation, yeah, that's not going to allow you to

662
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: keep all that talent on both sides of the ball.

663
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: I'd ad age too, Like even Wurfs in Beya through

664
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Speaker 4: out there, they're on their second contract.

665
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: I mean they're not second your stars.

666
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, not Spring Chickens and you know those wide receivers, yeah,

667
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, uh number five. The New England Patriots, the pros.

668
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: Draft capital right now, they're picking a second.

669
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: Potential path to a quarterback defense and a stable ownership.

670
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: I agree with all those things.

671
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Cons and old roster devoid of offensive talent, a fan

672
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: base agitating for success, and the shadow of the greatest coach.

673
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: Ever, you don't want to follow the guy.

674
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: You never want to be the guy who replaces the

675
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: guy because you're always going to be compared to the guy. Yeah,

676
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: so you want to be the guy after the guy.

677
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: Everything.

678
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: Whatever if the Patriots do happen the part ways with

679
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, whatever coach steps into that role is going

680
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: to constantly be compared to Bill Belichick.

681
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 4: The media didn't change, you know. I mean they're still

682
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: the same people at the press conference, et cetera. I

683
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: still think that's the best job listed. Yet they do

684
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: have a lot of caps base. They do have early picks.

685
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: You would think there's not immediate expectations.

686
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: You know, in some of these instances, I think to

687
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: something that should be considered. And I don't know how

688
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: high of a consideration this would be, but it would

689
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: be to me, where do you practice at?

690
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, ease of.

691
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Getting in and out of the stadium. Where's your stadium

692
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: located at? You said it's awful up there, It's terrible there. Yeah,

693
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: same thing in Washington. You can't get into those stadiums

694
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: like it. They're terrible traffic issues in both of those places.

695
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: And you're not talking about your commute as a head coach.

696
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: You're talking No, I'm talking about players. I got to

697
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: get in there on game day and I got to

698
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: sit in traffic for three hours.

699
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, get there for practice every day.

700
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a middle of no New England. The

701
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: New England Stadium is in the middle of nowhere.

702
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: No way lives near there or anything.

703
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, do I want to live out in the

704
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere an hour an hour from Boston and

705
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: an hour from Providence, Yeah, to play for the Patriots

706
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: or I'm a young guy, I want to I want

707
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: to be you know.

708
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: Or yeah, or does my wife and kids won't live there? Right? No?

709
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean San Diego sounds really good. I know

710
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: theyn't have a team anymore, but you know, there's some

711
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: some cities are more attractive than others, Like is my

712
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: wife when to live in Green Bay? Does my wife

713
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: will live in New England? I don't know, or New

714
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: York for that, But play.

715
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: For the Patriots, you might as well be playing in

716
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Green Bay. It's because you're in the middle of nowhere.

717
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: There's nothing around that area.

718
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Okay, No, that's a factor.

719
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just not an attractive spot for me.

720
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: If if I'm a young player, if I'm a twenty

721
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: two year or let's say a twenty five year old guy,

722
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: and I don't want to what do I want to

723
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: live in Foxborough?

724
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: For Yeah? Yeah, close to anything, Bristol it's kind of

725
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere, you know. No, that's a factor.

726
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Uh At four, I don't know if this one gets

727
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: opened up the Jets, I bet it doesn't. I bet

728
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: it doesn't too.

729
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

730
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I think one of the reasons that Rogers went

731
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: there was because of the coaching staff.

732
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: I think that one's pretty safe. They just won too.

733
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, big the pros, the defense, a veteran quarterback, and

734
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: immediate chances of success. Oh by that CON's draft capital,

735
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: lofty expectations, quarterbacking uncertainty post twenty twenty four.

736
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: I also think.

737
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: That's another one, but where I'd also put in location, yo, Yeah,

738
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: slash media.

739
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: I mean like that's that's an under a microscope scope

740
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: job more than most, which I think is a factor

741
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: why they've never won anything in my life.

742
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Joe Namath was.

743
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: The last time that nineteen sixty eight.

744
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: Right, I don't know if it's a good ownership or not. No,

745
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: it's a difficult situation.

746
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: And you got to live there, like the living is

747
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: really high and things like that too, you know. Right,

748
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: Number three, I don't know if this one gets opened.

749
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons. I lean towards no pros, A patient ownership.

750
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: Well there you go. Yeah, a young talent.

751
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: They have.

752
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: I cain't get some young talent, but.

753
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the greatest young talent based it's okay.

754
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: And the final pro is a subpar division. Notice every

755
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: one of the NFL, yeah, had been on this list

756
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: four out of four.

757
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: I guess it wouldn't be a bad job and do

758
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: the negatives. I'm sure something aout quarterback.

759
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: Ask the cons major questions at quarterback, no question, possibility

760
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: of a limited budget after the twenty twenty three spending spreed.

761
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: They have done a lot of spending lately. Yeah, okay,

762
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: so that's the cons. So inability to get the new

763
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: quarterback too. I don't think they have one on the roster.

764
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: How do you get them? And I don't think they're

765
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: financially set to just go get her cousins.

766
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah and trade you know. To me, their problem is

767
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: they've had three picks in the top ten in the

768
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: last few years. They used them on a tight end,

769
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 2: they used them on a wide receiver, and they use

770
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: them on a running back. At no point in that

771
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: in that time when they had those top ten picks,

772
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: did they say let's go up and get a quarterback.

773
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: No. They've always been content.

774
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

775
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and you knew Matt Ryan was called that

776
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: was an easy one.

777
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

778
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you did you you were in the top

779
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: ten and you didn't make your move to go get

780
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Now, to go get a quarterback, you got

781
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: to get into the top ten.

782
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: I would have to think about it. But they definitely

783
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: passed on some legit dudes. I mean, but definitely definitely

784
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: passed on picket, they passed on fields, they passed. I

785
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: mean like guys that were shortly after you picked.

786
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so yeah, So they're saying, well, we

787
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: think we're okay a quarterback, and there wasn't anyone close

788
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: to being okay.

789
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

790
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: Number two the Los Angeles Chargers. I don't know if

791
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: I agree with this one franchise quarterback pros franchise quarterback.

792
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the number one per yea. Yeah, that's really appealing.

793
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: Top end talent on both sides of the ball. And

794
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: then location, really.

795
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: Is LA a great location?

796
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

797
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: I think San Diego is.

798
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: I would agree with that.

799
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: I don't.

800
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: I want to talk about trying to get to the stadium.

801
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a I don't think LA's for everybody.

802
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: That's not fun. Also, top end talent on both sides

803
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: the ball. Do they really have that? Because if they

804
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: had that, they wouldn't be a five and eight team

805
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: right now?

806
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like guys like the left tackle Slater

807
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: to me, counts as.

808
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: Their offensive line is played like garbage.

809
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: Is bad, right, I mean the center, Myers has like

810
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 4: card issues and you know, the right tackle is not great.

811
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: Like, if you have a franchise quarterback in top end

812
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: talent on both sides of the ball, you shouldn't be

813
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: on this list.

814
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: No, you should never open. So what are the cons?

815
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I know what some are.

816
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Lofty expectations, perennial home field disadvantage, that's.

817
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: A good one. Wouldn't have thought that off the top

818
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: of my head.

819
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: Roster in transition in the division, so four of them, Yeah.

820
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even say the division. I'd say Pat Mahomes. Yeah,

821
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: but the salary.

822
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: The roster in transition means you're not going to have

823
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: all that top end talent on both sides of the ball.

824
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: And is Derwin James and Joey Bosa top end talent?

825
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: Not the way that they've played.

826
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 3: I mean, they're okay.

827
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: The results in the field don't tell me that they are.

828
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 4: But what I'd really dig into is whether the top

829
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: end talent or not. Even Khalil Mack who's leading the

830
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: league in sacks, he's not worth thirty six million dollar

831
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: capit next year, and Bosa's not worth thirty and Durwin's

832
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: not worth eighteen, which is almost exactly what they are

833
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: as looked at the other day. Is Keenan Allen worth

834
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 4: twenty five and Mike Williams worth twenty three or whatever.

835
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: I think it's even more than that.

836
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: For those two, you're gonna have like all this money

837
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: tied up in like six dudes.

838
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: That's what they are now. Yeah, so those guys aren't

839
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: gonna be back. The top end talent I'm putting that

840
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: int parentheses aren't gonna be back all of them.

841
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: No, they're not young to Yeah, they're not young.

842
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: Number one job the Chicago Bears. I don't know if

843
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 2: this opens.

844
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't think it will.

845
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: I think they're good. I think they might win this weekend.

846
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna pick him, to be honest with you.

847
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's all to be determined as is.

848
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: Should they keep Field, should they not? All that stuff?

849
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: But that'd be a great job. Yeah, the pros draft capital. Yeah,

850
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: he's your top ten picks right now.

851
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, including the number.

852
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: One accents access to a potent star quarterback. They might

853
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 2: have one on their roster now.

854
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that counts.

855
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the way he phrased that,

856
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: you're on covers both grounds and a young roster.

857
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have a ton of cap space.

858
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: And a ton of cap space.

859
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: Cons would be fun to take that job over, especially

860
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: as a GM.

861
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: CON's a high stake, a high stake decision to be

862
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: made immediately. That's the problem to me. That's why you

863
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: it's a pro to me. I want to be the

864
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 2: guy making that tha. Here's the thing though, that's why

865
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: I don't think the job opens up.

866
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: I tend to see what we're saying.

867
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Okay, we got to go find a coach

868
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: and then we have to quickly make a decision with

869
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: this with the new guy, and it probably if you're

870
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: firing a coach, probably firing a GM too.

871
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 5: Probably.

872
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: So now we get to find two new guys. We

873
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: get the number one overall pick. We got twenty days

874
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: to figure this out and then figure out which what

875
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: we're going to do at our quarterback situation.

876
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: The new guy hasn't worked with fields with the old

877
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 4: guy has. Yeah, right, So the old guy says, goes

878
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: to the owner and be like, I think Justin's turning

879
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 4: the corner, or I think he's got a limited ceiling.

880
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll ever be a good enough pastor

881
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: either way, at least he has experience.

882
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 3: I mean he has more information than the new guy does.

883
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: And the final one significant work needed on the line

884
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: of scrimmage.

885
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: Less than you think, though.

886
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't know about that.

887
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's attainable. I can spend money on

888
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: a center. I can use my early second round pick

889
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: on a dtackle. If I trade out of the first pick,

890
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Speaker 4: I can get anything I want on the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: You know, so.

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Speaker 4: They drafted, right, they just traded for sweat. They drafted

893
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Speaker 4: two defensive tackles that are not great. But okay, I

894
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: mean it's I can work with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, that's not so bad.

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Speaker 3: The beauty of that job to me is just give

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Speaker 3: me all those resources.

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Speaker 2: Give me the resources. I'll figure it out, and you

899
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: at least give me cards and I can.

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Speaker 5: I can.

901
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: I can revamp that roster pretty.

902
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: Quickly, really quickly. Or I could trade back and get

903
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Speaker 3: a bunch of picks next to you.

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Speaker 2: One thing he might want to put on there as

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00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: well is the division that tough.

906
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Speaker 3: That's say, too, is Jared Goff that much of.

907
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: A Is that an obstacle for you? The Detroit Lions, right,

908
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings, who are you know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like the AFC South doesn't look great,

910
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Speaker 4: but they have Lawrence and Stroud and Richardson might be good.

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00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: You might not. Same with Levis, you know, like.

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Speaker 4: That's scarier than love maybe cousins golf when I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: about two or three years on the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, that's that's Bill barbwall is brutal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Bill Barmwell's situation there most of Yeah, but let's get

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Speaker 2: a signed mink of Fitzpatrick football.

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Speaker 4: Oh nice, Yeah, I think you're right. We did a

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Speaker 4: video today and I think that's what they told us.

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Speaker 3: That's good stuff there. Yeah, so he do for one?

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Speaker 2: He is, Yeah, he's doing overdue for one. So that

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Speaker 2: brings me to So there was a thing and I

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Speaker 2: see stuff on social media and everything. Former Steelers player

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Speaker 2: Chris Hoak went on one of the local radio shows

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Speaker 2: today and and basically, they're not the Steelers aren't getting

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Speaker 2: what they need out of make of Fitzpatrick this year.

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Speaker 3: Oh I disagree. I do too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I read an article halfway through season, maybe it's like

947
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Speaker 4: week ten something along those lines that I called him

948
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Speaker 4: the the fireman. I mean, I thought he's the guy

949
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Speaker 4: that puts out fires like bam. We can't cover any

950
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Speaker 4: tight ends. Make it go cover the tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, boy, this is going to be a problem, right,

952
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: Make it go cover the slot.

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Speaker 3: Right.

954
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Speaker 4: We don't have anybody for single high. Make a go

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Speaker 4: put that fire out. You know, I think that he's

956
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: filled in a lot of games this week. We need

957
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Speaker 4: you in the box because it's running exactly exactly. Pass

958
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Speaker 4: rush is a little slow. You need a blitch. I'm

959
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 4: just making stuff up. But back seven's had a lot

960
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: of fires, and I think he puts out fires.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the numbers aren't there that yeah, yeah,

962
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Speaker 2: that you that you typically are used to seeing from

963
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Speaker 2: making Fitzpatrick. But I don't know that he's had a

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Speaker 2: bad season.

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Speaker 3: I don't either.

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Speaker 4: And one thing no one talks about this is kind

967
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Speaker 4: of like the conversation of the quarterback. There's no stat

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Speaker 4: for the quarterback that turns down the open guy and decides.

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Speaker 4: I know, when you watch all twenty two and if

970
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Speaker 4: you look at it through this lens coaches tell quarterbacks

971
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Speaker 4: don't throw at that guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not to the Troy level where you'd always

974
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Speaker 4: got to know where forty three is, but you always

975
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Speaker 4: got to know where he is and went in doubt,

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Speaker 4: go the.

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Speaker 2: Other way with you don't throw where thirty nine is

978
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Speaker 2: yeah looming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah's that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 2: Because we've seen that show too many, way too many

981
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Speaker 2: times where he takes one back the.

982
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Speaker 4: Other way or it gets his hand on it and

983
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Speaker 4: something bad happened. So you know, yeah, and he's baiting

984
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Speaker 4: you and he knows that, you know, especially the young quarterbacks.

985
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Speaker 4: That's absolutely true. And there's no stats for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's We've talked about that forever that there's

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Speaker 2: no stats for the for the for the passes that

988
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Speaker 2: don't get thrown because your coverage is good exactly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, nothing makes offensive coaches crazier than I doubt.

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Speaker 4: I've worked all week for this play because I know

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Speaker 4: in third and twelve they're gonna give me cover two

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Speaker 4: and I call the cover two beater and boy, that

993
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Speaker 4: guy's up. My primary reads open and your quarterback dumps

994
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Speaker 4: it down Dalvin Kamara. You know, like that's why people

995
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Speaker 4: go crazy with d with Carr. I mean, and that's

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Speaker 4: why I use that example.

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Speaker 3: Let it go.

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Speaker 2: Oh what do you make of this stat that I saw?

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Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew this season has targeted an open receiver when

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Speaker 2: blitzed just thirty six point seven percent of the time.

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Speaker 2: That's the sixth lowest in the league.

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Speaker 4: My first reservation about the stat is, what do we

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Speaker 4: call an open is?

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Speaker 2: You know this is a using next gen stats?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so they're saying a yard of separation I think

1006
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Speaker 4: is their deal? Yeah, huh, Well, a couple of things.

1007
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Speaker 4: And I think the Steelers have some of these problems.

1008
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Speaker 4: Is don't have great answers for blitz and I don't

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Speaker 4: know scheme well enough. I'm not an offensive coach, but

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Speaker 4: you will see a lot of offenses blitz boom, Brady

1011
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 4: hits Welker. So is it scheme or does Minshew's eyes

1012
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Speaker 4: drop and he doesn't see open receivers you know, research correctly?

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Speaker 5: Or yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know you're stad about him that when

1015
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Speaker 4: he holds the ball it's bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, am I holding the ball versus blitz more?

1017
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Speaker 4: And I just can't get it out in a decisive manner,

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Speaker 4: which has been a problem with him all along. And

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Speaker 4: you know I brought it up an hour ago. He's

1020
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Speaker 4: near the top bottom of the league in terms of

1021
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 4: turnover worthy plays as there they're enough and I like

1022
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Speaker 4: their terminology for it. I think they go hand in hand. Yeah,

1023
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Speaker 4: you know, not a super quick processor, so.

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Speaker 2: They can kim never the top of that list, make

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Speaker 2: him make some decisions maybe using MIKEA. Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: You know you can you can.

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Speaker 3: Finding that hot or whatever. No, that's a good call.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be something we'll keep an eye on. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk way more about the game tomorrow. Again, we'll be uh,

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Speaker 2: we'll have a regular show tomorrow. You'll be traveling Saturday,

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Speaker 2: so be ready for that four thirty pm Saturday, the

1033
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Speaker 2: Steelers at the Indianapolis Colts. As Bob Labriela said, playoff

1034
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: type game here.

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Speaker 3: It really is. Yeah, for the especially for the Steelers,

1036
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Speaker 3: but for both teams. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But that's going to do it for our show today.

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Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson for CJ. Wolfley here

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Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.