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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back into The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Biden had kind of a kind of

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Speaker 1: a doozy of a moment yesterday. It's I don't know it.

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Speaker 1: At some point you feel like you're caught between is

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Speaker 1: it more that what is the bigger fraud? And I

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Speaker 1: think you could argue this in a lot of directions,

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is of sound mind as a function

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Speaker 1: of age and cognitive detereration to be the president. Is

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Speaker 1: that the bigger fraud? That Joe Biden is an honest

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Speaker 1: just you know, lives down the street, good guy, amtrak Joe.

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Speaker 1: It's actually kind of a jerk, or that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is smart enough, particularly on legal issues, as somebody who

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Speaker 1: was a lawyer and that a senator for forty years

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Speaker 1: to actually have something worthwhile to say on important matters

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Speaker 1: of law, constitutionality, jurisprudence, you name it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: which is the bigger fraud. You can argue that in

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Speaker 1: any of those realms. I think there's a there's been

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Speaker 1: a constant media campaign of dar I say disinformation Clay

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Speaker 1: to try to convince people that things are true about

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden that are just not. And this is one

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Speaker 1: of those moments where he put a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: things in together. And maybe Clay can give us a

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Speaker 1: little bit of your legal analysis of Joe's legal analysis,

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Speaker 1: because I don't even think Joe knows what he was

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Speaker 1: trying to say on this one. Here is the president

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Speaker 1: on that Rov Wade league. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: what he calls the MAGA crowd, the idea that somehow

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Speaker 1: that there is no right of privacy. What happens if

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Speaker 1: you have stage changed the law saying that children who

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Speaker 1: are LGBTQ campaign classrooms with other children? Is that legit?

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Speaker 1: Under the way the decisions written? What are the next

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Speaker 1: things that are going to be attacked? Because this Maga

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Speaker 1: crowd is really the most extreme political organization that's existed

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Speaker 1: in American history? Can I just say, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know that he went back said in recent history. I

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Speaker 1: think after that, but the MAGA crowd, I guess by

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Speaker 1: that he means the Republican Party. He's trying to tell

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Speaker 1: us this is the most extreme Republican party. Because finally,

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has weighed in on what is obviously

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Speaker 1: the correct constitutional and they haven't even made the decision official.

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Speaker 1: The pro life movement and then the Conservative platform has

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Speaker 1: been the pro life movement for decades and decades now,

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Speaker 1: So there's nothing so should be surprising about this. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: can you explain to me what is he even talk

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Speaker 1: keeping LGBTQ kids out of school? Like? What does he

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Speaker 1: even what does he think he's saying? I don't even know?

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Speaker 1: And this goes again to why I question his mental

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Speaker 1: faculties to such a degree. If he wants to fear

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Speaker 1: monger based on this opinion, that is hard because, as

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Speaker 1: we said, Aldo in his opinion specifically says that he's

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Speaker 1: not going to go after other things. For instance, if

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Speaker 1: you really wanted to fearmonger here and maybe Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: will eventually fearmonger better than he did there, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say gay kids are going to get pulled out of

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Speaker 1: the classroom. You would say something like, oh, next, they're

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Speaker 1: going to take away your birth control. Something like ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of Americans believe that birth control is fine for

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Speaker 1: people to use. I am one of them. Chances are

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Speaker 1: that many of you also agree with that. What is

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Speaker 1: clear here from Joe Biden's arguments is he hasn't read

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Speaker 1: the opinion himself, which is an indictment because if you're

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Speaker 1: going to be commenting on this, certainly as the president

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Speaker 1: of the United States, you should read the draft opinion.

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Speaker 1: And his argument doesn't make any sense there. And then

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Speaker 1: to go on and say that the MAGA crowd is

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Speaker 1: the most extreme in American history. Let's think for a

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Speaker 1: minute about some of the things that have existed political

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Speaker 1: party wise in American history, and also think about what

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Speaker 1: the MAGA crowd believes in secure boarders, respect for police officers,

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Speaker 1: putting America first, finding people with good, secure, safe jobs,

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Speaker 1: including people in manufacturing industries that have lost their jobs overseas,

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Speaker 1: giving people the ability to put America first, raising wages black, white, Asian,

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Speaker 1: Hispanic two levels that we haven't seen in modern history.

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Speaker 1: Trying to call that, and I saw where he's trying

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Speaker 1: to label it the ultramagas or something they're trying to label.

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Speaker 1: The clear attempt here is a desperate ploy to make

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump a figure in the mid term elections to

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Speaker 1: drive up Democrat turnout. But here's the problem, Buck, that's

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Speaker 1: the exact same campaign that Terry mccauiffer ran in Virginia

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Speaker 1: and Glenn Young can soundly defeated Terry mccalliff. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember that, Buck, we talked about this last fall when

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Speaker 1: they were bringing in all the heavy hitters, Barack Obama,

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. If I remember coming across the Potomac Or

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Speaker 1: River showing up for those rallies with Terry mccaulliffe saying

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Speaker 1: how bad things would be if Republicans took back control

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Speaker 1: of the old dominion there and they tried to make

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump a figure in that election, and you know

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Speaker 1: what happened. It didn't remotely work because he wasn't on

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Speaker 1: the ballot. That's now a sign of desperation six months out.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's ultimately what Joe Biden is trying to do,

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Speaker 1: but he's doing it a ham handed fashion, because, let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, he's got dementia. I was reading in that

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Speaker 1: political article you and I were talking about earlier, the

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Speaker 1: fact that he may run in twenty twenty four. Buck,

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Speaker 1: they said, many of the rooms they can't use at

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Speaker 1: the White House to do public events because they can't

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Speaker 1: fit his teleprompter in it. They can't have this man

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Speaker 1: in that Polical article. I'm a guy who likes big TV,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say. And in New York sometimes you get

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Speaker 1: that flat screen. It can be tough to get it

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Speaker 1: up the stairs in your walk up or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: when the teleprompter is too big for the president, that's

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Speaker 1: not good. I'm gonna read that quote from Politico at

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Speaker 1: some point in the show, but it's talking about the

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Speaker 1: fact that we may have a Trump Biden rematch. And

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Speaker 1: to me, what Biden is trying to do is draw

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Speaker 1: Trump in as a figure in this election. The problem

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Speaker 1: is Trump's not on the ballot. That might work in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and it's certainly something that'll be much

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Speaker 1: debated over the next couple of years who the Republican

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Speaker 1: nominee should be and whether eighty two year old Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden can run. But I mean, he is reading these

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Speaker 1: attacks off of a teleprompter, Buck, and they're still nonsensical.

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Speaker 1: He can't even deliver them, and more important, they're just lies.

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Speaker 1: And let's also remember not only you have two things

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Speaker 1: that I think are a huge challenge for the Democrat

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Speaker 1: brand right now, because I know we're talking about Biden

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Speaker 1: a lot and it's the mid terms that are going

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Speaker 1: to determine the House, the Senate, and different state races.

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Speaker 1: Biden's not on the ballot, but he's the leader of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party right now. He is the president. Is

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Speaker 1: the Biden regime. And you look at two things that

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Speaker 1: are huge problem. We talk a lot about the results,

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Speaker 1: which is the most important thing. Same way, results are

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Speaker 1: the most important single part of the discussion. I think

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Speaker 1: about school shutdowns, right because we don't have to get

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Speaker 1: into the oh, but philosophically, no, no, you guys shut

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Speaker 1: down the schools. You hurt kids. And the COVID issue

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Speaker 1: was irrelevant for the kids because they've either got COVID elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter the Biden administration. We look at the results,

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Speaker 1: but also look at the promises. For a moment. You

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Speaker 1: remember this clay in New York City. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was embarrassing. I'll be honestly, it was embarrassing. People were

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Speaker 1: driving around and it was like World War When they

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Speaker 1: finally announced for Biden, it was like World War two

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Speaker 1: had just ended. The Abullians, the joy, the happiness in

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Speaker 1: the streets, it was, oh my gosh, you know, as

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Speaker 1: though it was the end of dogs and cats living together,

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Speaker 1: mass hysteria. All of a sudden, we were coming together

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Speaker 1: in a way. The Democrats obviously voted for Biden that

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Speaker 1: was going to unite US as a country and normalcy return.

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Speaker 1: Claim they pushed to fire huge numbers of people from

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Speaker 1: their jobs for not getting a shot that most of

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Speaker 1: those people didn't even need. Yes, thousands of people, tens

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Speaker 1: of thousands of people, military teachers, workers in all different

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Speaker 1: sorts of government jobs lost their employment for a shot

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Speaker 1: that they didn't need it. I'm just saying that they

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Speaker 1: promised to unite the country steady hand adults in the room, competency,

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Speaker 1: and so when you look at the promise and now

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Speaker 1: the results, I mean, the gap is enormous, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know they promised me filet me and yawn and

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Speaker 1: a side of Vernez sauce with some asparagus. I haven't

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Speaker 1: eaten lunch. I'm obviously hungry, by the way, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm having. When Hunter gets indicted. Oh yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the wag you there, fancy man. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how it goes. I think whatever the most expensive steake

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Speaker 1: on top, or rather I'll get it because Hunter's not

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Speaker 1: getting indicted. But my point here as they showed up

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Speaker 1: seen rotten eggs? That's happening once or twice? Very gross,

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Speaker 1: Like the actual results of administration versus what they promised,

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Speaker 1: that gap is enormous, and I think that really factors

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Speaker 1: into psychology that we'll see going into the election. I

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Speaker 1: really do, because the promise wasn't you know, we're in

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Speaker 1: going forward. All I can offer you is blood, toil,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome. I'm gonna be a booming economy.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's gonna be so great. Joe Biden's an imbecile. Amen.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about that as we continue to roll.

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Speaker 1: By the way, our buddy Ron Johnson, the Senator from Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, and we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: importance of the mid term elections and everybody out there

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Speaker 1: listening in the great state of Wisconsin, we need you

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Speaker 1: to go vote for Senator Ron Johnson and Senator I

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Speaker 1: meant to ask you this the last time you were on,

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Speaker 1: but I can barely keep up with it. We've been

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Speaker 1: number one in Milwaukee. We appreciate everybody listening in Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: right now, our kids in Milwaukee Senator still being required

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Speaker 1: to wear masks. I know it's been bouncing back and

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Speaker 1: forth quite a bit, but I think that a lot

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Speaker 1: of them still are. Do you know the latest details there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know they suspended for a couple of days, then

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Speaker 1: they slapped it right back on. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: they've taken it back off again. How crazy is that?

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of suburban moms out there that

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Speaker 1: are making decisions about who they're going to vote for,

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Speaker 1: and when you're sending your kid into a public school,

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Speaker 1: and they're still wearing a mask over two years after

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Speaker 1: COVID arrived in America. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: You look at the data, you look at the science.

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Speaker 1: How infuriating is that? Well, first of all, the science

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Speaker 1: for masks in generals and not particularly good Lessons ninety

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Speaker 1: five changed out frequently. But there's one group of people.

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Speaker 1: We always knew it. Masking would never work with a

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Speaker 1: mass of children. You ever seeing kids wear masks, you

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Speaker 1: know there's a party hand on their enemy. It was

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Speaker 1: never going to work with children. It's not working out,

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Speaker 1: So it's insane, But it's all part of what the

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Speaker 1: left is doing here that they will never admit they

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Speaker 1: were wrong, and so one of the ways they make

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Speaker 1: sure that they've not proven wrong is they just keep

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Speaker 1: doing the same things. It's one of their mechanisms to

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Speaker 1: keep us all in a state of fear, which is

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Speaker 1: what they do with it's climate change, with it's the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: so we control control our lives. Speaking Senator Ron Johnson, Senator,

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Speaker 1: it's buck. You know, I saw the interaction, the back

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Speaker 1: may york Us on whether or not this is a

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Speaker 1: border crisis. Want to remind everybody in case they didn't

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Speaker 1: hear it or see it, here's how that Wor do

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Speaker 1: you say that we have a secure border that you're

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Speaker 1: managing it. Do you do you not admit that this

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Speaker 1: is a problem on the southern border? Um, Senator Johnson,

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Speaker 1: that is certainly a challenge. We recognize the challenge. Can

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Speaker 1: you say the word problem is it is precisely Senator Johnson,

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Speaker 1: it is precisely why in September of last year, I've

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Speaker 1: got some questions I want to ask you. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: got questions that I would want to ask a douce sedator.

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Speaker 1: But everyone that I know at the border on border

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Speaker 1: patrol and who's covering it and has been down there

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Speaker 1: recently says the same thing. The border is the most

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Speaker 1: lawleist and the biggest problem it has ever been. But

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Speaker 1: ma Orchis doesn't seem to think so. No, you know, challenges,

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, you're running five miles would be

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Speaker 1: a challenge. You know, a problem with something else, And

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Speaker 1: they will not admit they have a problem. They certainly

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Speaker 1: will not admit they cause the problem. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the eight hundred pounds grill in the in the room

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Speaker 1: is what the Democrats want because they want legislation. They

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Speaker 1: want to address the asylum problem. But they view the

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Speaker 1: asylum problem is asylum standard is too strict. And of

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Speaker 1: course the real problem is the asylum standard is pretty strict,

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Speaker 1: but we let people in under a much lower standard

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Speaker 1: called credible fear. All you have to say is I'm

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Speaker 1: afraid to go back to my home country and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll come on in them and will jud kate you

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Speaker 1: plan your claiming. I don't know, five or six years

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Speaker 1: you probably had a couple of US citizen children by them.

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Speaker 1: So we've just created this enormous incentive, this enormous poll factor,

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Speaker 1: and all Democrats want to talk about is the push factor,

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Speaker 1: you know, the crime, the drugs, all the type of

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Speaker 1: thing in Central America. And they completely deny that the

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Speaker 1: primary issue here is the poll factor, and they will

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Speaker 1: not admit that Trump pretty all heads have the problem solved.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we pretty well stopped the flow of

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Speaker 1: uncompanied children family units exploiting our asylum laws. We were

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Speaker 1: building the fence, and so I put up my graph.

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Speaker 1: It's it's graphic. I mean, it just shows Trump and

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Speaker 1: solved the problem. And then the minute Democrats were running

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Speaker 1: for president, they said they were going to stop deportations

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Speaker 1: and give everybody healthcare. Single adult apprehension started growing. Then

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Speaker 1: once Biden took office, the problem just exploded. It's obvious,

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Speaker 1: but they will not admit the obvious that they literally

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Speaker 1: are living in an alternate reality center. Johnthan obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot of discussion about the leak of a proposed opinion

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Speaker 1: from Justice Alito overturning Roe v. Wade. What should happen

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Speaker 1: in your mind if if we are able to uncover

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Speaker 1: who leaked this opinion from the Supreme Court. Probasly, the

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Speaker 1: person needs to be fired and disparred thoroughly disgrace. I

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Speaker 1: mean the damage gender a Supreme Court is hard to overstate.

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Speaker 1: But you know, from my standpoint, I read the entire decision.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney myself, but it was very easy

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Speaker 1: to read. I thought it was very detailed, covered all

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Speaker 1: the points, showed exactly why Robe and Casey were so

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Speaker 1: poorly decided. This a really good decision. This is what

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Speaker 1: should have happened fifty years ago. We should have allowed

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Speaker 1: the people to decide through the Democrat process. At what

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Speaker 1: point do you protect life? As a leader writes, it's

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Speaker 1: a profound moral issue, and it's so profound not you know,

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Speaker 1: nine unelected judges should not make that decision for all

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Speaker 1: society one individual. Should. We all ought to collectively come

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Speaker 1: to a decision on a state by state basis. Initially

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Speaker 1: that might be kind of a messy process, but we're

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Speaker 1: not going back fifty years. I have faith in the

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Speaker 1: American public to sort us out to the Democrat process

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Speaker 1: over the next couple of years. A Senator Tim Ryan,

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Speaker 1: who is trying to claim that he would be a

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Speaker 1: congressman right now. Tim Ryan, who's running in Ohio, said

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Speaker 1: on Fox News with Brett Bayer, we played this clip

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Speaker 1: earlier that he believed abortion should be able to occur

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Speaker 1: in the ninth month of pregnancy. That is an unbelievably

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Speaker 1: radical evolution and exaggeration in terms of what Democrats believe

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Speaker 1: on abortion. How commonplace do you think that idea is

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Speaker 1: among Democrats based on your experience in the United States

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Speaker 1: Senate now, that nine month abortion should be legal, Well,

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Speaker 1: in terms of Democrat elect officials, is probably pretty common, unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: But I think the general public, if given the information,

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Speaker 1: if they can just see what a you know, nine months, well,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows that nine month old baby looks like it's

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Speaker 1: a baby, Okay, But even even twenty week old or

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Speaker 1: fifteen week old, they can respond to, you know, the

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Speaker 1: father's voice outside the wound because they can, you know,

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Speaker 1: just watch the heartbreak up. When again, if people are

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Speaker 1: given the information, the reality of what's happening you From

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Speaker 1: my standpoint, I think people collectively will decide to protect

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Speaker 1: life at a pretty early stage. I can't say exactly

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Speaker 1: when that would be. You know, I could make a

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Speaker 1: decision myself in terms where I think, but again, this

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Speaker 1: would be a collective decision and that's the appropriate way

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Speaker 1: to approach this. Speaking of Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, Senator,

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Speaker 1: you're in a very important state in this for this

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Speaker 1: in general, of course we love Wisconsin, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of the mid terms, uh, it's it's a state that

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Speaker 1: will go with h Well, hopefully we'll go with the

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Speaker 1: GOP overall the mids and your race particularly is also

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Speaker 1: quite important. What are the independence you know, you're in

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Speaker 1: a swing state, what are the independence that you're hearing

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Speaker 1: from saying And I just want to get a sense

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Speaker 1: of essentially using your state as a bell weather for

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Speaker 1: how we're looking at this point going into the midterms.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us, Well, they're concerned about the

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Speaker 1: main economic issues. I mean, inflation, record gasoline prices, rising

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Speaker 1: crime is certainly a concern, and you wouldn't think we're yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are at border state with Canadian border, but that's

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Speaker 1: not a real big problem. But they are highly concerned

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Speaker 1: about our completely out of control southern border. So those

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Speaker 1: are the issues they're concerned about. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: the abortion issue, it's pretty pretty well fifty fifty. If

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Speaker 1: you're a Republican, your pro life, if you're Democrat, your

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Speaker 1: pro choice and it's just never really come up. It'll

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Speaker 1: come up, I'm sure in this election, but I think

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Speaker 1: we'll sort things up. But it really is it's it's

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Speaker 1: the fact that their wage gains have been wiped out

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Speaker 1: by out of control depths and spending. Gasoline prices are

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Speaker 1: at record levels because of the Democrats. Warren fossil Fuel.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's my job to point out that all

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Speaker 1: these awful things that occurring our economy didn't just happen.

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Speaker 1: They're the direct result of Democrat policies and democratic governments.

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Speaker 1: This is what Democrat policies are designed to result in,

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Speaker 1: and people need to understand that. Senator Ron Johnson, sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck. We are joined by Dana Perino.

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Speaker 1: You all know her former White House Press secretary, host

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Speaker 1: of The Five and America's Newsroom on the Fox News Channel,

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Speaker 1: and New York Time's bestselling author. Her latest book is

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Speaker 1: Everything Will Be Okay and Dana, I guess I could

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Speaker 1: just start with that one because I don't know right

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Speaker 1: now with the Biden administration, it feels like a lot

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Speaker 1: of things might not be okay exactly. Let's why the

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Speaker 1: title hooks you in, because everybody wants to know is

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Speaker 1: she serious? But I am serious. Yes, I know that

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Speaker 1: it sometimes feels. I mean every day I wake up

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Speaker 1: and I think, surely they're going to get their act together,

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Speaker 1: and no, no, they don't. Dana, First of all, it's

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Speaker 1: great to have you on the show for the first time.

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Speaker 1: You came down to Nashville. Your book is fantastic. We

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Speaker 1: had a good time my wife and I did hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you and your husband some so you need

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Speaker 1: to come back to town soon. What has the experience

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Speaker 1: been for you? Like, because you have such great relationships

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Speaker 1: with people in the music industry as a part of

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Speaker 1: your job, what impresses you. You get to talk to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people on Fox News every day, but

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Speaker 1: that seems to also translate into the entertainment industry, particularly

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Speaker 1: with country music. What do you think the overlap is

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Speaker 1: between country music and Fox News and why are those

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Speaker 1: two groups so comfortable. It's a great question. Interestingly, I

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Speaker 1: started in radio. I was a country music DJ. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea, yeah, yeah, working I worked overnights for

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Speaker 1: minimum wage because back then, if you wanted to get

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Speaker 1: into television, you had to start in radio. So I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to do my radio experience now during college.

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Speaker 1: So CACCY FM was gracious enough to let me give

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Speaker 1: it a try, and so I grew up with nineties

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Speaker 1: country and I love nineteen nineties countries so much. Then

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Speaker 1: I was at the White House for almost eight years,

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Speaker 1: I only listened to radio talk radio, everything from Rush

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Speaker 1: Limbaugh of course, to NPR because we were I relate.

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Speaker 1: I still believe that radio is king when it comes

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Speaker 1: to public communications. I think it's just absolutely critical. Of course,

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Speaker 1: cable news we agree as well, but I think talk

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Speaker 1: I know you do, but it really is true. If

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Speaker 1: you really want to make sure that people are hearing you,

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Speaker 1: and you and you, you two have found that you

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Speaker 1: have a deep connection with your audience. So I think

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Speaker 1: that with country music being so committed to the lyrics

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Speaker 1: and the story, that is one thing. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing is that you have a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: start off in very humble beginnings. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: go through a ton of disappointment in Nashville in particular. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's just you try and you try. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: met people who have written songs for seventeen years before

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Speaker 1: they actually get a hit. But there is magic in

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Speaker 1: the climb and in the stories of resilience. And I

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Speaker 1: also really admire how closely knit the country music industry is.

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Speaker 1: I know there are exceptions to the rule, but for

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Speaker 1: the most part, there's a lot of support. And I

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Speaker 1: feel the same way at Fox News. I really love

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Speaker 1: the team that we have and so I hope that

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Speaker 1: that transmits to our viewers and to their listeners. I

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Speaker 1: hope What do you think about the way the media

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Speaker 1: landscape may change here, Dana with I think just today

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Speaker 1: it was reported that Elon Musk is going to be

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Speaker 1: the interm CEO of Twitter. So that's that is moving along,

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Speaker 1: it feels like in a variety of ways. But that's

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Speaker 1: obviously on the social media front, but just the with

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Speaker 1: the rise of all these different digital digital platforms, Fox

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Speaker 1: Nation obviously among them, that things are changing and people

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Speaker 1: have also realized that left wing dominance of some of

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Speaker 1: these platforms. Not only is it, I think bad from

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Speaker 1: a content perspective, it could be bad for the country.

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Speaker 1: So are are you hopeful that we're going to head

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Speaker 1: into a better place in the near future in terms

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Speaker 1: of having more parody on the airwaves? I am hopeful.

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Speaker 1: I'm also cautious. I do remember when I was right

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Speaker 1: out Press secretary until the last day in two thousand

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Speaker 1: January two thousand and nine when President Obama was inaugurated,

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Speaker 1: And on that day I didn't even have a Twitter

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Speaker 1: account or a Facebook account. And that's how quickly from

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to now these platforms have just

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Speaker 1: grown so exponentially. I do think it's pretty interesting just

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Speaker 1: how few Americans are actually on Twitter, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of the media is on Twitter, and they're reinforcing each

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Speaker 1: other's viewpoints, and that is where I think it got

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Speaker 1: us into real trouble when I think the best example

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Speaker 1: is the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. You

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Speaker 1: just look back now, I think, how could that possibly

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Speaker 1: have happened? And now that story is aggressively in the mainstream,

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Speaker 1: and the New York Times is having to quote the

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Speaker 1: New York Post, so that is changing a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm hope full of that Elon Musk can bring about

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Speaker 1: some change and at least maybe some sober mindedness, and well,

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Speaker 1: then we'll see, you know, how it goes. I'm also

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Speaker 1: one of the things I talked about in my book

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Speaker 1: is that social media can often be a drain on

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Speaker 1: your energy and it's not going to help you in

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Speaker 1: your career necessarily. So I'm encouraging young people to kind

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Speaker 1: of like a step back and be very mindful about

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Speaker 1: what they're posting, because your future boss cannot unsee that.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt the book. By the way, we're talking

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Speaker 1: to Dana Perino. She's on the five. She's also America's

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Speaker 1: news room, you know, or from Fox News. Everything will

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Speaker 1: be okay. That's what I was going to ask you about,

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Speaker 1: is the eight years that you spend in the White House.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the different ways that you consume media.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest challenges I would imagine, whether you're

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, Republican, whoever you're serving, and whoever you're working

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Speaker 1: for an administration, is trying to figure out what matters

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Speaker 1: in a day where everything is kind of coming at

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Speaker 1: you in a fire hose effect. How much more difficult

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Speaker 1: do you think it is, no matter what job you

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Speaker 1: have in politics, to figure out what actually matters, what's

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Speaker 1: actually true, and how to manage your day on a

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Speaker 1: day to day basis today that it might have been

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Speaker 1: ten or twenty years ago. That's very interesting, and I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of it comes from the top. So

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Speaker 1: whoever that leader is, the commander in chief, that person

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Speaker 1: has instincts right, they got there for a reason. And

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Speaker 1: I would say I think that my boss, George W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: that was able to do that, and if he would

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Speaker 1: be able to say, all right, and we'll deal with this,

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Speaker 1: but no one's going to think about it in three weeks.

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Speaker 1: So he had his finger on the poll. And of

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Speaker 1: course you have advisors that tell you that President Trump

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Speaker 1: is very good at it because he knew. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't think, and maybe this is just a little bit

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Speaker 1: of my own bias, I don't think that President Obama

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Speaker 1: or President Biden are very good at it at all,

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Speaker 1: because if they were, then they wouldn't have such dismal

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Speaker 1: polling numbers on the question that does President Biden care

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Speaker 1: about the issues I care about? His numbers on that

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Speaker 1: have been very low from the beginning. And so, for example,

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Speaker 1: everyone's talking about inflation. What did they spend three days

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Speaker 1: talking about this week? Student loaned it? And then Rob, wait, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not talking about inflation. They're avoiding it and avoiding

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Speaker 1: the issue that you know everybody is dealing with every

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Speaker 1: day because they're going to the grocery store, the restaurant,

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Speaker 1: they're filling up at the gas tank, and they're upset

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Speaker 1: about it, and they avoid that. And avoidance is not

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Speaker 1: a very good strategy, and it shows in their poll numbers.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking to Dana Perino, former White House Press secretary,

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Speaker 1: best selling author her new book Everything Will Be Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna to get a copy because I feel like

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Speaker 1: I go to bed every night thinking, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: what's the heck they're going to come to? These lives

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Speaker 1: are out of their minds. The Commies are running amuck,

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Speaker 1: but everything will be okay. Is her book you can

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Speaker 1: get on an Amazon. Dana. You are also, like me,

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Speaker 1: a dog lover and you is it as I want

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Speaker 1: to say, It's not a Wimern or is it a

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Speaker 1: wimer On or what kind of dog do you have?

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Speaker 1: It's a cousin to the er. It's a very inversion.

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Speaker 1: So see, I'm always fascinated with this because like my family,

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Speaker 1: we have a French bulldog. I grew up with a

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Speaker 1: Boston Terrier. These are very, very common breeds. How did

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Speaker 1: you come upon because I'd say probably like eighty to

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of our audience has a dog. I would

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Speaker 1: just throw that out there. I guess how'd you come

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Speaker 1: upon Vishla as the choice. I'm just curious. I've always

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you this, and now I'm taking my chance. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a great story. So I met my husband on

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Speaker 1: an airplane. He's eighteen years older than me and British

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Speaker 1: and I lived in DC at the time and he

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Speaker 1: was in England. We fell in love on the plane.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not. It is true that I I was

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Speaker 1: twenty five years ago and I moved to England and

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Speaker 1: he wanted we both wanted a dog. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: get a black Lab, and I sort of cringed that,

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Speaker 1: you know, having to clean up all the shedding of

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Speaker 1: a black lab, even though I love all dogs. And

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Speaker 1: I really wanted a Vimer on him because I love

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Speaker 1: those William Wegman's photographs. If you remember, they were in

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Speaker 1: all the calendars and there were books about them and

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Speaker 1: greeting cards. So we just we're in a hurry. And

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Speaker 1: we arrived and there was a three month old Vishla

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Speaker 1: and then an eight year old Bishla and a twelve

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Speaker 1: year old Bishla. So it was like we saw the

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Speaker 1: progression of what a Vishla would look like. And they're

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Speaker 1: extremely affectionate and athletic, which I really like, and we

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Speaker 1: And that was it, you know, we fell in love

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Speaker 1: with the breed, and so we have now Percy. He's

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Speaker 1: our third my that's funny. My brother's dog is named Percy.

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Speaker 1: M he's got a Pomeranian. Should Clay get a Vishla

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Speaker 1: for the boys? Data? Oh you know, I'm well, wait, play,

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Speaker 1: what kind of dog do you have? Cat? Well? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is a subject, Dana. We've got We've

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Speaker 1: got two Bengal cats, which are non shedding cats. My

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Speaker 1: wife is a huge cat person. And I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't think I told you this, Danta. But during the

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Speaker 1: shutdown and everything else, when they kids were out of school,

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Speaker 1: Laura assigned them my wife one day to give me

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Speaker 1: a persuasive speech on why we had to get cats.

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Speaker 1: So my you know, then kindergartener, my fourth grader, and

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Speaker 1: my seventh grader, all one after the other, made a

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Speaker 1: the end of their persuasive speech, Dad had been outvoted.

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Speaker 1: And so we have two cats, and do you want

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Speaker 1: a dog? Uh? Look, I've got three kids, Dana. I

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Speaker 1: feel like they are like playing They're they're like dogs

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Speaker 1: time ten in terms of the mess that they make. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know the thing is, as we get closer

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Speaker 1: to Mother's Day, the boys don't get blamed for the

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Speaker 1: messes as often as the dad does it seems you know,

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Speaker 1: the apple may not fall far from the tree. But

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Speaker 1: I just have a I have a saying that I

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Speaker 1: made up that a boy needs a dog and a

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Speaker 1: dog needs a boy, but that in particular for boys

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Speaker 1: growing up with dogs, there's something about that companionship and

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Speaker 1: learning of the responsibility, and also they become more compassionate people.

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