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Speaker 1: your hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Welcome everyone into another edition of Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Of course, always joined by Mickey, Rob Brian and myself
Speaker 1: in the SWBC Mortgage studio. Very exciting day around here
Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys facility because of the fact that
Speaker 1: they're finally moving on officially officially from the Denver loss
Speaker 1: with the first practice starting today. Mickey was just getting
Speaker 1: the full report for us in the one brief minute.
Speaker 1: You had to see it due to the pushback they've made.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure you saw your guy thirty two out
Speaker 1: there because Garrett said he will practice, and oh was
Speaker 1: out there full for him. Pats, I was ready to go.
Speaker 1: He's all ready to go. Oh good headline, Rob, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I should use that yesterday. Yeah, yeah, should ask me
Speaker 1: deadline rider consultant man. I used to ride headline. As
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said, Tay, the ball game is that ball
Speaker 1: game is behind us. It's behind us onto the cards,
Speaker 1: behind a lot of other people. But it's behind them. Huh, Well,
Speaker 1: those are the fans that you said don't listen, So
Speaker 1: they need to listen to you today because you said it,
Speaker 1: and you said Orlando Scandrick would probably be ready to
Speaker 1: go after ten days post surgery. It has been ten
Speaker 1: days officially today, and we got to expect his inspect
Speaker 1: his hand yesterday. He showed it to us. Wasn't even
Speaker 1: wrapped up. What did you see? I saw stitches still there,
Speaker 1: but the skinhead gone together. So he said it's healed,
Speaker 1: so he's he should be good to go. And he
Speaker 1: explained to was it Clarency grabbed from behind, yes, on
Speaker 1: the shoulders and gave him a shoulder massage. What to
Speaker 1: show him that his left hand was working? Brought us
Speaker 1: How will they be able to wrap it up and
Speaker 1: get him game ready and everything without effecting anything? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. You know, he always plays with gloves anyway,
Speaker 1: so they'll find a way to get sweat. Yeah, they have,
Speaker 1: they will. They have a way. They have a have
Speaker 1: a thing like tough skin or a fake skin they
Speaker 1: call it. They'll be able to put it on there
Speaker 1: and and wrap that as long as like Mickey's describing that,
Speaker 1: he has the ability to grip. That's all that he
Speaker 1: really really needs. I mean, the way he heard it
Speaker 1: was unfortunate because he was reaching in for a tackle,
Speaker 1: and you know, he tends to swat at you know,
Speaker 1: instead of wrap up. He's a he's either a go
Speaker 1: low shoulder body tackle guy, or he'll swat his hands
Speaker 1: at at the ball carrier's legs or feet when he's
Speaker 1: down that low. So he's got to be careful of
Speaker 1: having that happen again. You know, we're just coming off
Speaker 1: that surgery. Yeah, I think they're past the point of
Speaker 1: concern about infection with that thing. And usually guys that
Speaker 1: have that injury they miss about a week because of that.
Speaker 1: And he's still got the stitches in. But that, like
Speaker 1: you said, it's healed up at play. Yeah, so now
Speaker 1: it becomes functionality with whatever that Just put a pad
Speaker 1: on top of it and then put a larger make
Speaker 1: him wear a larger glove. Yeah, fake skin was fake
Speaker 1: fake skin it on top And like I said, as
Speaker 1: long as he has the ability to use his fingers,
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. Did he tell you anything else,
Speaker 1: Mickey in the locker room that you found interesting that
Speaker 1: the good Dallas Cowboys fans listening to this podcast should
Speaker 1: know said he could have played last week, but they
Speaker 1: didn't want to risk the infection. That the thing the
Speaker 1: incision breaking. So I mean, he's been out there running arobically.
Speaker 1: He should be fine, So let's go play football, and
Speaker 1: especially now with the Cowboys having the secondary issues with
Speaker 1: depth right now, especially, I mean Garrett said today he
Speaker 1: thinks Cheeto doesn't even know what he could do in
Speaker 1: practice obviously limited with his hamstring issues. But how is it.
Speaker 1: No one was like, he ain't making it bad, No one,
Speaker 1: Carroll ain't coming back anytime soon. They sent him home yesterday,
Speaker 1: so he's still still feeling the effects and you know,
Speaker 1: probably put him in Did they put him in the
Speaker 1: Texas Tech Shed to keep it dark? Leechy, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. That was a bad story back in the day.
Speaker 1: It was. But yeah, what you said, they set them home, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dark, Yeah, you're right, the darkness. It doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like it's this week for sure. Yeah, he's he's recuperating. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would not expect him this week. And that was
Speaker 1: something that you know, he said in the walk off,
Speaker 1: so you know, we got a little information there. But
Speaker 1: he also said Rico wasn't Yeah doing still not clear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Ricos more is more about I think about the
Speaker 1: jaw and the neck. Ricos was whiplash, you know, and
Speaker 1: it ended up being the concussionary symptoms. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: to me why you know these things are it's a
Speaker 1: it's a touchy subject to deal with because you ask, well,
Speaker 1: why can this guy come back in five days ron Leary,
Speaker 1: you know, or why can this guy what does it
Speaker 1: take eight weeks and getting not a doctor but various degrees.
Speaker 1: Why they have the concussion protocol. There are certain symptoms
Speaker 1: you could get from a fall or something where you
Speaker 1: bump your head and yeah, it could hurt obviously and
Speaker 1: take you out of the game, but it might not
Speaker 1: be a full blown bad time concussion. Yeah, there's different
Speaker 1: steps of that protocol. Obviously, I think I have and
Speaker 1: I just didn't know it. We played in that era
Speaker 1: where they didn't really care about us. So you saw stars, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Lucky Charms guy, you know, the magically delicious guy.
Speaker 1: You know, you see like the leper Con and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything just kind of you know, everything is real pink.
Speaker 1: It was like a pink and you almost want to
Speaker 1: throw up. What you No, No, yeah, Taylor, I haven't
Speaker 1: had a concussion, but I had a serious fall where
Speaker 1: I hit the back of my head on a tennis court,
Speaker 1: so you know how hard that would be, and then
Speaker 1: you trip over the line. I tripped on my own foot.
Speaker 1: I think it was just kind of one of those
Speaker 1: things trying to slide on the play, trying to get
Speaker 1: like a ground structure that you go over there, get
Speaker 1: that forehand, I saw stars. Oh I did not feel good.
Speaker 1: I don't even knew if I thought it was a cushion.
Speaker 1: But yeah, playing a bad era where they didn't really
Speaker 1: think you. I don't think so middle linebacker days now.
Speaker 1: I fell once playing basketball on the driveway. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: hit my battle get you hit the back of my head?
Speaker 1: Battle get you started bleeding? To go get stitches? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not good? Yeah, no, that's not good exactly. Coach, How
Speaker 1: do you play around this though? This week? You okay
Speaker 1: with everything? But Orlando? Yeah, well, if Orlando's out there,
Speaker 1: it's good to go that way, right. Lewis has got
Speaker 1: to play, Yeah, Woods has got to play. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: I still like I still like Woods playing a little
Speaker 1: extra stuff. If he has to play in the slot.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be an issue. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're still if a woozier can't go. Now, if a
Speaker 1: woozy can go, you feel a lot better, right. If
Speaker 1: he can't go, then Ben Rickery's gotta wait. You saw enough.
Speaker 1: You saw enough from Woods to say no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they had to use him in
Speaker 1: some dime stuff. Okay, you know, yeah, I was. I'm okay,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I don't I think he's a better covered
Speaker 1: guy than he is one of these is a cool
Speaker 1: down in the box players. I think you talk about
Speaker 1: the movement and the skill he has. We saw him
Speaker 1: do some of that stuff and though it camp, you know,
Speaker 1: if you walk down to the other end of the field, yeah,
Speaker 1: covering the tight ends, but you know, he was running
Speaker 1: around pretty well the other day, moving and doing what
Speaker 1: he had to do that. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: total throwaway idea to say, okay, well, hey, let's put
Speaker 1: him in some situations where we can have him covered
Speaker 1: a little bit. So what do you think they do?
Speaker 1: So Scandrick on the right side, Brown on the left,
Speaker 1: and then Lewis comes in on Nickel, Yes, and then
Speaker 1: Lewis would play on the rights on the right side,
Speaker 1: and then Scandrick goes inside. Right. You know, it occurred
Speaker 1: to me because when Brown had to go outside, it
Speaker 1: was for Skandrick on the right side. But if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, most of the time last year when he
Speaker 1: was playing and playing well, he a lot of times
Speaker 1: was on the left side, wouldn't he, yes, because they
Speaker 1: moved car to the right, right right, right? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, I mean, I don't know if right or left.
Speaker 1: Let me tee this to him. We're gonna need to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on. This is another thing too. Scandrick
Speaker 1: playing the slot good. We all understand how he can
Speaker 1: do that. But if Larry Fitzgerald plays inside in the slot.
Speaker 1: You know, Larry Fitzgerald doesn't run great, but but he
Speaker 1: will make every single contested catch. Who is your best
Speaker 1: contested cornerback of the guys of a Scandrick, I mean
Speaker 1: contested player if the guy's gonna be you know, does
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown have better contested skills than than Scandrick in
Speaker 1: that situation? Okay? Yeah, over somebody like Anthony Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're saying, I'm just saying, hey, when you get
Speaker 1: in that situation where it's inside. It's tough and now,
Speaker 1: oh we saw Anthony Brown get a bad penalty last
Speaker 1: week with that. But he's aggressive. I mean, he's hands
Speaker 1: the face. He's gonna stay with you, he's gonna fight.
Speaker 1: We've seen him undercut some routes. I just like how
Speaker 1: Scandrick always seems to be in position, right, He's not
Speaker 1: always gonna make the interception, but like a contested type play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's when he's at the top of his game. I
Speaker 1: like him in that situation. Would you put but again,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta factor in the the injury too
Speaker 1: that he's gonna see. That's what I'm saying. I've always
Speaker 1: liked Scandrick doing one thing, not both things, right, he
Speaker 1: was either playing outside or inside. Yeah, I don't disagree
Speaker 1: with you there, but I think with Scandrick though, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's better against the quicker guy. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: he gets in the it's the wrong word I'm gonna use,
Speaker 1: but it bullied is you know, the wrong word really,
Speaker 1: But the physical side of it though, we've seen him
Speaker 1: match up on in training camp with Dez Bryant and
Speaker 1: have some succes. I like what you're saying there. Battle Deza.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I like that aspect of it,
Speaker 1: But I'm I wonder if if the way that they
Speaker 1: play it that with Arizona's ability to make plays down
Speaker 1: the field and to the side outside the numbers, do
Speaker 1: you take Scandrick who can run on the outside, and
Speaker 1: leave him outside and let him carry those routes and
Speaker 1: put somebody more physical inside to handle Fitzgerald interesting thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as we get along in the next couple of days,
Speaker 1: we'll figure out what they're gonna do. Trust me on that.
Speaker 1: We are and you guys, we were talking about a
Speaker 1: little bit of how people were freaking out hearing that
Speaker 1: Dak might have an ankle injury. No sweat there. Garrett
Speaker 1: cleared it up today, said he'll have no limitations with
Speaker 1: the ankle. I have a hard time even calling it
Speaker 1: an injury. You know, I think it was probably sore.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a hard hit and he got
Speaker 1: bent back pretty good. Yeah he had. I mean he
Speaker 1: had to get taped, but I didn't I didn't see
Speaker 1: real limitations out there. He's a tough guy, obviously. You
Speaker 1: know what he told his Tuesday night he said, he said,
Speaker 1: I've sprained my ankle so many times it doesn't even
Speaker 1: bother me. Yeah, ever, that tape it up and goes.
Speaker 1: He normally doesn't wear tape during the games. Right when
Speaker 1: you tape it, it prevents the swelling, it prevents it
Speaker 1: ballooning up on your right away. No, but what I mean, like,
Speaker 1: if he has to wear tape in Monday night's game,
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be a problem. Yeah, yeah's tape
Speaker 1: up the shoes, maybe spat him up and go. I
Speaker 1: don't think there'll be a problem there will see. I mean,
Speaker 1: Garrett even kind of talked about maybe instead of taking
Speaker 1: eight reps this week. We've yet to see in two games.
Speaker 1: From what I understand, Dak not take all the reps
Speaker 1: in practice. You know, the backup quarterbacks have been primarily
Speaker 1: the scout team guys. So let's see if the eight
Speaker 1: reps this week that maybe more or Cooper Rush take
Speaker 1: two of the eight just to kind of give them
Speaker 1: a little bit of a rest. And I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying. Now, we have a caller on the line.
Speaker 1: You guys can call us the numbers two, one, four, eight, seven, two,
Speaker 1: twenty one or two. Nebbie is on the line for
Speaker 1: us today. Hi, everyone listen. As far as this game
Speaker 1: Monday night is concerned, we have to put pressure on
Speaker 1: Carson H. Palmer. I get takeaways and and score touchdowns
Speaker 1: because if we don't score touchdowns, we can't win. Take care.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being patient with me, and have a great
Speaker 1: weekend and a great week bye. Thank you. Every good question.
Speaker 1: So he's talking about pressure on Carson Palmer. I think
Speaker 1: that's a great question. It gets into our conversation about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense versus the Cardinals offense, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, getting excited, not excited, but this is another
Speaker 1: struggling offensive line, So this d line should be excited
Speaker 1: about getting some pressure to Carson Palmer. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: symptomatic of their problems. They played the Colts last week
Speaker 1: and the first play of the game, Carson Palmer takes
Speaker 1: a five step drop, it's sack. It gets hit absolutely
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, head coach wasn't happy, wasn't well.
Speaker 1: Now the quarterback, pretty easy going guy, wasn't happy either,
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right. It's another team that's got and
Speaker 1: they've got some injuries on that line too, and we'll
Speaker 1: get into it. But but yeah, some some inconsistency there front.
Speaker 1: So do you think Demonterrey Moore can help? I do
Speaker 1: now he's out there practicing. I do first time since
Speaker 1: and when we get to our inactives on Friday, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be an interesting conversation of who do you
Speaker 1: not want to play or who doesn't play that day.
Speaker 1: You know you have to think about can you're going
Speaker 1: to address all those defensive ends. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you are. You know, there might be some other areas
Speaker 1: that you have to think about this team. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: where where he fits in will be be key because
Speaker 1: there could be a possibly of one of those young
Speaker 1: guys sitting if you talk about Taco or maybe even
Speaker 1: Tapper as one of the guys that would would sit
Speaker 1: if to get more on the field. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he can. I think he can help. I think
Speaker 1: he can help in a couple of different ways on
Speaker 1: the edge on that right side, and I think he
Speaker 1: can help us a nickel tackle too, And some of
Speaker 1: the rush that they were able to generate in the
Speaker 1: preseason was coming him playing as a nickel tackle. When
Speaker 1: you think about it, he's one of the most veteran
Speaker 1: guys on this defensive end rotation. Andrey yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: five six year veteran. I didn't know. He told us yesterday.
Speaker 1: He is his older god brother is von Miller. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw that in your article. That was very interesting
Speaker 1: because he was saying, yeah, I took some advice from
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware and then it said god brother von Miller,
Speaker 1: like just casually. Yeah, but they're both Aggies, right, Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: He helped him get to A and M and they
Speaker 1: he worked with those guys in the offseason at like
Speaker 1: a pass rushing summit. He's trying to work on being
Speaker 1: a better student of the game. And you know, these
Speaker 1: two games he sat out. He's anxious to get out there.
Speaker 1: He's got some experience. I think he can help this rotation.
Speaker 1: We talked about what he was able to do at Seattle,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's a different group out there. They
Speaker 1: lived to rush the passer, and I think he learned
Speaker 1: some things out there. I think he showed some positives
Speaker 1: some the up ticket at training camp. Let's see if
Speaker 1: he can get more involved and take advantage of some
Speaker 1: other things that these the Cardinals are going to struggle with.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that Nebbie brought up, which
Speaker 1: I think is a good point. These Cowboys have actually
Speaker 1: been able to get some good takeaways these first two games,
Speaker 1: something that they've kind of struggled with these past two seasons. So, Mick,
Speaker 1: you think that your guy Orlando can help get some
Speaker 1: picks or something like that. Crazy? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's never been a big interception guy. Fumbles
Speaker 1: to run celebration. They tend to win games when he
Speaker 1: does get turnovers. I believe he had one against Chicago
Speaker 1: one night on a Monday night, and he had another
Speaker 1: one against the Redskins. I think so if you get
Speaker 1: an Orlando Scandric interception, then you're likely going to get
Speaker 1: a win. Maybe that's something we need to look That
Speaker 1: would be a Statye, they can't protect Palmer. I want
Speaker 1: to see some fumbles in the pocket then yeah, Demndre
Speaker 1: help with that. Yeah, absolutely, Well if he can get
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback, yeah, And you know what, I
Speaker 1: think they can keep all those guys on the line active.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna keep You're gonna dress probably with it five.
Speaker 1: You're gonna deactivate Noah Brown, aren't you. Yeah, that's your call. Well, no,
Speaker 1: he I think he's I think he's gonna be an actor.
Speaker 1: I think they might need to think about with something
Speaker 1: Corner can Wicker? Are you too well? If Woozi's not playing, yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben Rickery's up. Okay, and think about it. They It
Speaker 1: wasn't out of necessity, it was just numbers. Bell was
Speaker 1: active last game. Right, they don't need him, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: they don't see you. No, he has to be the
Speaker 1: swinging tackle. Yeah, and he and Lunei are the two guys, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be We need to sit down and put
Speaker 1: pen to paper and figure it all out this week.
Speaker 1: We will will, we will, We'll get there, and before
Speaker 1: we get there, we're gonna get to some tell me more.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna do that right after our first break.
Speaker 1: So we just have a full segment jam packed with
Speaker 1: information on this Cardinals offense and how this Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: can prove that maybe last week was just a bad game,
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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studio and where we are getting to a
Speaker 1: little bit of Cowboys defense versus the Cardinals offense. So
Speaker 1: as we always do, or at least second week we've
Speaker 1: done this, We're gonna play some tell me more and
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Robert, who is the guy on
Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense that you're going to tell us more about.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with c J two K Chris Johnson, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, is turning thirty two years old on
Speaker 1: Saturday and has the same neck tats as Mickey Spagnola. Guys,
Speaker 1: you guys are matched up. Yep, yeah, same guy. They
Speaker 1: went to the same tattoo parlor. Well, maybe you should
Speaker 1: have picked Chris Johnson. What you want me show you
Speaker 1: show us? Yeah, we'll have a photo posted later. Awesome, awesome,
Speaker 1: all right. Chris Johnson signed back to the Cardinals roster
Speaker 1: after being cut at final cuts. According to reports, he
Speaker 1: was not happy about that they signed him in July.
Speaker 1: He thought his roster spot was probably safe behind David Johnson.
Speaker 1: But with that elite running back on the shelf for
Speaker 1: a few months, they're going with a committee at running
Speaker 1: back in Arizona, and it's they haven't named a starter.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the work that was distributed
Speaker 1: in that game, he came into the second quarters, art
Speaker 1: of the second half. He was the guy in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they beat the Colts, and he led
Speaker 1: them in rushing eleven carries for forty four yards. So
Speaker 1: we'll see you know, he or all those guys, Kerwin
Speaker 1: Williams Andrea Ellington. They've got to get that running game going.
Speaker 1: They're averaging less than three yards per carry tay in
Speaker 1: the first two games, thirtieth in rushing, and when you
Speaker 1: think about the problems they're having protecting Carson Palmer, they've
Speaker 1: got to get some seblance of a running game going
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, who clearly struggled last week in Denver.
Speaker 1: So they are missing David Johnson just a little bit
Speaker 1: over dad. Yeah, yeah, but I did ask Bruce arians
Speaker 1: about Chris Johnson today. They're happy with him. He says
Speaker 1: he's still got it. Obviously he was an elite, elite
Speaker 1: rusher in his earlier years. Oh yeah, we'll see. Two
Speaker 1: years ago, before the Cowboys drafted Ezekiel Elliott, he was
Speaker 1: a free agent and there was a lot of talk
Speaker 1: around Cowboys Nations. Should they go after Chris Johnson? Should
Speaker 1: they you know? And then really he got picked up
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals and they're like, well, that's a guy
Speaker 1: we could have got, and it would have been interesting
Speaker 1: to see the flip yeah behind this offensive line. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully the Cowboy You look what the Cowboys are doing
Speaker 1: the run defense is usually solid. This is a top
Speaker 1: five run defense last year. Just some problems with tackling
Speaker 1: and run fits in all that last week in Denver.
Speaker 1: They've got to be able to contain Johnson in this game.
Speaker 1: Mc brian rob just told you that they have to
Speaker 1: get their running game going against this Cowboys defensive line.
Speaker 1: With the added to Montreal Moore, will they be able
Speaker 1: to stop at their running game and kind of keep
Speaker 1: them in this stalemate? There's not many times they could
Speaker 1: use the word stalemates. It's a great word. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that you're talking about the Cowboys. The Cowboys going
Speaker 1: up against their run game and if you know Johnson,
Speaker 1: how do you come back? It is. They've had their
Speaker 1: issues and a lot of it has to do on
Speaker 1: first down. That's one of their biggest problems is their
Speaker 1: inability to run the football. They just don't have that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at what they do on
Speaker 1: second down, there's not a team in the league that
Speaker 1: averages more yards they have to gain on second down.
Speaker 1: Then then then what Arizona does. They're like almost nine
Speaker 1: point two six yards you know, an attempt there to
Speaker 1: have to get So, yeah, their struggles the Cowboys if
Speaker 1: they continue to tackle poorly. I think that's the cowboys
Speaker 1: biggest issue when they when run defense. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's getting bodies to the ball. I think it's actually
Speaker 1: trying to bring guys down. And we saw that in
Speaker 1: the Giants game. They were outstanding in the in the
Speaker 1: In the Denver game not so much. So if if
Speaker 1: you get things going and all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's missing tackles and hit heat this missing tackles
Speaker 1: and Jaylen Smith is missing tackles, then there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some problems. You know that Arizona has got to try
Speaker 1: and run the football. I mean they saw Arizona, I
Speaker 1: keep saying, they saw Denver have some success doing it.
Speaker 1: So hey, be creative in the way you get your
Speaker 1: scheme going. But you know, we'll see I don't think
Speaker 1: it's I don't think they can run the football, but
Speaker 1: every time I think it kind of remember I remember
Speaker 1: back to the Hall of Fame game a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know it was a preseason game.
Speaker 1: If you remember the first colle drives, Dallas had a
Speaker 1: lot of their starters and defense in that game, and
Speaker 1: they were able to move the ball running it with
Speaker 1: some success. Safeties in that game, yea they had your
Speaker 1: safeties and yeah, a couple of other guys playing the game.
Speaker 1: So I mean it it just maybe maybe they feel
Speaker 1: maybe they feel like there's something they can do to
Speaker 1: have some success. So one of the things I saw
Speaker 1: in that Denver game, and I don't know how this happened,
Speaker 1: but it seemed to happen repeatedly, the defensive line seemed
Speaker 1: to get caved to one side of the ball, like
Speaker 1: three guys. Yeah washed. How did that happen? Do they
Speaker 1: block that way or were they? Were they chasing and
Speaker 1: instead of playing there? Sometimes when the cows they play,
Speaker 1: they slide, they shift their front. Sometimes you could catch
Speaker 1: them in the cow was they like to slant their front. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then you slant your front one way and play
Speaker 1: the linebackers the other way and try and take up
Speaker 1: all the gaps. Well, that's sometimes when they get washed.
Speaker 1: That's a big, big problem. They catch them in a
Speaker 1: run like a run stunt, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: when the linebackers get blocked or get bumped or step late,
Speaker 1: it's a bad Which is the other thing I saw
Speaker 1: they had there was too many times their offensive linemen
Speaker 1: were on the linebackers in a heartbeat. Yeah, they struggled Dallas.
Speaker 1: Dallas had problems control. It's it's obvious they had troubles
Speaker 1: controlling the line of scrimmage. And like what Mickey's saying,
Speaker 1: if you get washed and now it's like, okay, Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith has got to make a player right there in
Speaker 1: the in the B gap. And he doesn't make it,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have some problems. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: the way this defense is built. It's built on movement,
Speaker 1: it's built on attacking the gaps. And when they don't
Speaker 1: attack the gaps or control the gaps, then they're going
Speaker 1: to give up place. All right, Well, you tell us
Speaker 1: the guy that you are watching on the Cardinals. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, And I think, guy, yeah and I and
Speaker 1: this is one of the better teams in the league
Speaker 1: when it comes to the big place, the twenty plus
Speaker 1: yard place. And that's a lot of it has to
Speaker 1: do with Carson Palmer and the way he throws the football.
Speaker 1: The ball is going to go down the field, that's
Speaker 1: gonna go to the outsides, it's gonna be outside the numbers.
Speaker 1: They like to attack along the sidelines more than they do.
Speaker 1: If they're going to attack in the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: they're going to attack you with Fitzgerald. That's how they'll
Speaker 1: do that. But to get they tried their vertical team
Speaker 1: that works the outsides, be ready for that. Where he's
Speaker 1: had his problems is that he has not been as
Speaker 1: accurate throwing the football down in a lot of those situations.
Speaker 1: So there's about a fifty four percent passer. Teams that
Speaker 1: have been able to get bodies near him because he
Speaker 1: it takes him, he's gonna throw the ball long down
Speaker 1: the field. He needs to step into his throws. Teams
Speaker 1: that have put pressure on him have been able to
Speaker 1: make him be a little short with his delivery and
Speaker 1: it's caused the ball to go short and on the outside,
Speaker 1: and he's had some incompletion. He's one of the better
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league when you blitz him because he's
Speaker 1: able to handle that. He's seen a lot of that,
Speaker 1: So you got to be careful about that. You get
Speaker 1: him inside the thirty yard line, he has big time problems.
Speaker 1: He's like a fifty four percent rated quarterback inside the thirty.
Speaker 1: They just haven't found the way with no David Johnson
Speaker 1: in the lineup, that ability not to run the football
Speaker 1: or throw him a screen has really hurt hurt the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Again, you got to watch him the big
Speaker 1: play from him, but inside the thirty there's some things
Speaker 1: you could do to him scheme wise that causes him
Speaker 1: a little problems. That's what the Cowboys need to do. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: one of the better things you said against that, because
Speaker 1: you gave us a good picture of him. You said
Speaker 1: that he doesn't he understands the blitz. He can, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can read it. We've talked about it before. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense doesn't really run the blitz too often, so
Speaker 1: that's gonna be kind of one of their strengths. Maybe
Speaker 1: they'll play on But I mean, Rod Marinelli, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he's just looking to see, Okay, let's let's beat this quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they gotta get bodies to him. You get
Speaker 1: bodies to him, and that's any quarterback in the national
Speaker 1: foot bully. But there's some of those veteran guys that
Speaker 1: rely a little bit more on the cleaner pocket to
Speaker 1: have to make plays. He's not going to move around
Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. He's going to stand
Speaker 1: there and make throws, so you have to be ready
Speaker 1: for that, and like say, be ready for that ball
Speaker 1: going down the field. And JJ Nelson your guy, you
Speaker 1: mentioned him the other day. He's a guy you've got
Speaker 1: to watch for. This is a defense when it's at
Speaker 1: its best, they don't give up big plays. And he
Speaker 1: had a forty five yard touchdown last week, thirty yard
Speaker 1: completion that got them in position to go win the game.
Speaker 1: So he's a guy on the outside. You mentioned Fitzgerald,
Speaker 1: another guy that they've got to contend with in the
Speaker 1: passing game. Actually in his career his longs for three
Speaker 1: years are forty five, eighty and sixty four. So he
Speaker 1: gets down the field. He does do that. He does well.
Speaker 1: Brian just told you about the quarterback, Mickey, why don't
Speaker 1: you tell us about an offensive lineman that's trying to
Speaker 1: protect him well from getting in the pocket. They are
Speaker 1: struggling on their offensive line from a health standpoint. They
Speaker 1: had two starters miss last week. DJ Humphreys their left tackle,
Speaker 1: and Mike Ayupatti. They had to go to John Wentzel
Speaker 1: and Alex Boom. Yes, the name John Wetzel is familiar
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans. And then the head coach wasn't happy with
Speaker 1: the right guard Evan Bam and the right tackle Jared Veldeer,
Speaker 1: and Jared Veldeer is changing positions. He was the left tackle,
Speaker 1: he's been playing left tackle. They moved him to right tackle,
Speaker 1: and he has struggled in both of their games. They're
Speaker 1: Lyne has struggled in both games. Palmer's been sacked five times,
Speaker 1: four times by the Colts. And I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: looks at the Colts and go, oh, look at this,
Speaker 1: these guys say, but not just sacked four times, he
Speaker 1: got to hit nine more times. And when I started
Speaker 1: watching film, the guy I circled right away was number
Speaker 1: sixty eight Veldeer because he looked like he was really
Speaker 1: struggling in As a matter of fact, he's an eighth
Speaker 1: year veteran. He's thirty years old, and during training camp
Speaker 1: he took a personal day because he was contemplating retiring,
Speaker 1: and he came back the next day. Last year, he
Speaker 1: missed half the season with a torn tricep. The second
Speaker 1: half of the season get put on ir So I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's a Doug Freeze situation, but you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's sitting there going, this is a second time
Speaker 1: I've torn my tricep. I'm thirty years old, I've played
Speaker 1: all these games. Do I really want to play? And
Speaker 1: he's got a ten million dollars cap hit, so they
Speaker 1: weren't happy with his performance. And you know, he signed
Speaker 1: a big contract in twenty fourteen coming over from the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He's a veteran. He started a lot of games, but
Speaker 1: he hadn't played well in these first two games. Boy
Speaker 1: Mickey gave you a great thumbnail what this guy is.
Speaker 1: And I think that the way you attack him is
Speaker 1: with movement. Make him have to move. He rush this
Speaker 1: guy down the middle. He's good enough to sit down
Speaker 1: on and hold you right there. But the problem he
Speaker 1: has is the more movement and he has to deal with,
Speaker 1: the more it throws him off balance, the more it
Speaker 1: makes him have to lunge, the more he has to
Speaker 1: try and stop. I think he's a strong guy. I
Speaker 1: just don't think the athletic ability is really really there.
Speaker 1: He has he had. He did play as a left tackle.
Speaker 1: I always felt like that was a really a bad
Speaker 1: position for him. More of a right tackle guy. But yeah,
Speaker 1: when you watch him play that there's going to be
Speaker 1: some some good opportunities for de Marcus Lawrence, d Law
Speaker 1: get that half a sat back to do some good
Speaker 1: things they stole from him, law Law. I'm getting excited
Speaker 1: you're telling me that he doesn't do well against the
Speaker 1: movement because we've talked about DeMarcus Lawrence in exhaust these
Speaker 1: past few weeks, deservedly so. Obviously four sacks on his
Speaker 1: career stat line right for this season. But three and
Speaker 1: a half and a half they took one away from
Speaker 1: a half a sack away from him. That's wrong. How
Speaker 1: many targets did they give Old? Way too many? Way
Speaker 1: too many? But get me started on God, but what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that market you might have another field day
Speaker 1: because we've told you guys, he's lost a couple of pounds.
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly. He's just lost way to move around,
Speaker 1: to get more movement, to be quicker on the edge.
Speaker 1: Just speed it. He'll beat him on the outside. They
Speaker 1: don't help him out. Yeah, if it turns into today
Speaker 1: that they don't put it tight into that side, which
Speaker 1: they didn't do in the games. I didn't well, by
Speaker 1: the way, I don't know because on their depth chart.
Speaker 1: They only had one tight end and it was Jermaine
Speaker 1: Gresham and he didn't play last week. Yeah, they've got
Speaker 1: They had five five offensive starters missing in the game
Speaker 1: if you conclude Johnson, John Brown, the two offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and Gresham. Yeah, so we'll be looking at their practice report.
Speaker 1: It does see who's coming back who's not. Because obviously
Speaker 1: the Colts not a very strong team. We're almost able
Speaker 1: to beat them. And sorry for not reading the whole
Speaker 1: email and stealing your guy. Oh it's okay, but if
Speaker 1: you got anything else I could say about him, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, Actually, Mabbe, I'm gonna steal something for
Speaker 1: you from you today because I have a special Mickey's
Speaker 1: minute today. And unfortunately it's not Mickey You're gonna rant,
Speaker 1: I'm not, but our dear friend in New York. If
Speaker 1: you guys have been on Twitter this morning, I know
Speaker 1: Mickey hasn't so he hasn't seen it yet, but he
Speaker 1: had a special rant about the giants and tents produced
Speaker 1: something just magical for us. It's time for Mickey's minute.
Speaker 1: Come on, stop it already, all right, everybody's coming up
Speaker 1: with these doll but this offensive lineman only twenty seven
Speaker 1: percent of the time was Eli Prichard from his left
Speaker 1: side on Monday nights when John mcdonnaugh's the announced stop
Speaker 1: stop creating some narrative that you everybody knows football better
Speaker 1: than somebody else. Your eyeballs tell the story. The offensive
Speaker 1: line sucks, Barrett, that's my stat. You want a stat,
Speaker 1: you want sabermetrics offensive don look at Don look Greg
Speaker 1: and tweeted last night, We're said on the Michael Caju
Speaker 1: offensive line stakes, that's the stat. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do, Michael. We're gonna be like
Speaker 1: accounts now in baseball, was that the Pythagorean theorem, the
Speaker 1: pythagraphy and theorem faid that the red Jane Pump and
Speaker 1: the line did their record. Some people, having won that
Speaker 1: the Pythagorean theorem said to the tire offensive law that
Speaker 1: they're walk When I talk at that there, my son
Speaker 1: like that. The people that trust all Agorian theorem. Look,
Speaker 1: the people that listen to Theythagorian theorem, the people that
Speaker 1: sit there at their desk that only know the naked
Speaker 1: body through National geographic that do the math with the
Speaker 1: Pythagorean theorem, that's what they sound like just like on
Speaker 1: ESPN radio. Who is he? I mean he was like
Speaker 1: a host on radio, Yes in New York, and I
Speaker 1: mean there's more two from the Michael k Show. I
Speaker 1: think it's who he is on He gets a little
Speaker 1: more frustrated and talks about I've seen football for forty years, sporty.
Speaker 1: I'm a man, that's one of the worst offensive lines
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And they have not gone this long
Speaker 1: without scoring twenty points since seventy seven seventy eight when
Speaker 1: Joe Bizarchik was their quarterback. Patterson played Joe God, he's
Speaker 1: smitten all So take down with your Pythagorean theorem. Take
Speaker 1: that God. He said that on the air. Yes, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you're the zinmaster compared to that guy. Mickey's a minute
Speaker 1: when never that was an impressive minute, though I'd have
Speaker 1: to send a heck of a minute. But I'm glad
Speaker 1: I wasn't in sitting yeah really in a rain suit
Speaker 1: to do radio that guy. Or maybe I can. I
Speaker 1: can pull a D'Angelo Williams. Huh, that's the true Captain
Speaker 1: angry pants right there. Man in New York in the studio,
Speaker 1: you know, we're complaining about offensive lines. And different things
Speaker 1: like that. But yes, we saw it in the first week.
Speaker 1: The Giants have a lot of issues over there, and
Speaker 1: it's it's very frustrating to some fans. But I mean,
Speaker 1: just that guy, well, he's obviously a fan. He's not
Speaker 1: a professional radio guy. Oh I think he's a radio guy. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe he's a radio guy, but he's a he's a
Speaker 1: Giants fan and he's pissed off. And that's what happens
Speaker 1: to fans that get on the radio. We're all homers, Mickey,
Speaker 1: come on, man now, now, not like that. We're all homershot.
Speaker 1: Be realistic, good stuff, got to be realistic. Well, Dave
Speaker 1: Hellman just tweeted out he actually got to watch practice
Speaker 1: today and he wrote that Anthony Hitchens was not participating,
Speaker 1: but he was on the field. And we've been time.
Speaker 1: He's getting closer and closer and close. Next week maybe
Speaker 1: against the Rams or do you think they'd hold him
Speaker 1: until the Packers. It's a short week next week, so
Speaker 1: it just depends. It just depends on where he's at physically.
Speaker 1: I think by next week, I'm gonna say forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: That would be after the bye, after the bye that
Speaker 1: I thought the Packers were at Packers are October eighth,
Speaker 1: and then there's the bye, and then there's the Rams
Speaker 1: Rams Packers by Oh, then Packers That's what I was thinking,
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and get through the short week
Speaker 1: and then Green Bay week. Yeah, defense offense ready to
Speaker 1: great For that conversation of who should start at mic linebacker,
Speaker 1: we'll have to have it. Yeah, we'll have to have it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, have you been impressed so far with
Speaker 1: what you've seen from Jalen Smith? I have, I have,
Speaker 1: I have to. I don't clain him a lot more
Speaker 1: than I ever thought. I was number of snaps alone
Speaker 1: that he played I've been I was so wrong about
Speaker 1: him as a player. So can Hitchins play the strong
Speaker 1: side because I don't think Damien Wilson has played. He
Speaker 1: at least didn't play very well in this last game,
Speaker 1: what little he was in there. Yeah, across the board
Speaker 1: thought he was. I thought he was a liability. You know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to play him at SAM
Speaker 1: linebacker though, Anthony Hitchins, I know, because he's he should
Speaker 1: If he's not, maybe he's weak. Yeah, maybe maybe you
Speaker 1: find a way to if you play him on Nickel uh,
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson, no or Jalen Smith play Hitchens with Lee. Okay,
Speaker 1: that takes, but that takes then that would take that
Speaker 1: takes off the field, and that would maybe make y.
Speaker 1: Maybe you make Jay. You're Sam, you're Sam linebacker. You
Speaker 1: don't want to move Sean. You can't do n's your will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gonna be an interesting conversation. If
Speaker 1: you're if you're if you're in bass and you're the Sam,
Speaker 1: then you're covering, you're off the field. If you're a
Speaker 1: bass base, you're on the tight end, around the tight end,
Speaker 1: you're playing over the Titans. I don't want him going back. Well,
Speaker 1: what could do is you could use him to hold up.
Speaker 1: He could be a hold up guy on the you know,
Speaker 1: at the point of attack, right. He could be a
Speaker 1: guy that plays with some link, plays with some strength,
Speaker 1: plays with some power, leverage the tight end, set the edge,
Speaker 1: and then let people run from the middle. That's what
Speaker 1: you can do with him. Let's see if they do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd move him to Sam linebacker,
Speaker 1: but it's surely possible if he feels more comfortable with
Speaker 1: his foot Unless they just share the position. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: was the thought with Durant. I think he got it
Speaker 1: was out there practicing, by the way, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think you got to find a way to get
Speaker 1: get him on the field. I mean, you can't just
Speaker 1: let Anthony Hitchin said no, not in my opinion, you
Speaker 1: had one hundred tackles for you last Yeah. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: too solid for this team. But we've got some solid
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Speaker 1: over these results from Rob's pool. Yes, it's an interesting
Speaker 1: week this week. You got Jason, you got Larry Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: on the other side. Couple of goats, A couple of goats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: third and fourth all time in all time receiving yards
Speaker 1: right now, no inception receptions right as it stands now,
Speaker 1: Witten's getting there's right, but I don't think Fitzgerald's backing up. No,
Speaker 1: but they're they very well. Both could be wearing gold
Speaker 1: jackets when it's all said and done. So with your
Speaker 1: stat that you had the other day. Jason Witten leading
Speaker 1: the league in catches right now after two games, seventeen
Speaker 1: is right, seventeen. I was curious, what's the most impressive
Speaker 1: Witt and milestone to date? You've got four options, most
Speaker 1: all time games played for Dallas, most starts consecutively in
Speaker 1: Cowboys history, Cowboys receiving yards record that he recently got
Speaker 1: from Michael Irvin, or the fact that you just mentioned
Speaker 1: Micky's fourth all time in NFL catches. A lot of
Speaker 1: good stats there, some of them team related, some of
Speaker 1: them iron man related, and he's obviously in the league
Speaker 1: record books too. I think the iron man related, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think the fans will say the fact that he's
Speaker 1: fourth all time in receptions, not on the Cowboys, in
Speaker 1: the National Football League as a tight end, as a
Speaker 1: tight end broad man. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Taylor on this one. I think the consecutive game
Speaker 1: streak is the thing. Most starts in a row, Those
Speaker 1: starts in a row, well, we got one and two there.
Speaker 1: Fifty five percent said fourth all time and catches in
Speaker 1: league history, NFL history, followed by and the fans baby,
Speaker 1: followed by moans and the fans market kent there you go. So,
Speaker 1: so the Ironman streak or the consecutive starts with second
Speaker 1: in the poll. You think about the position he plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like he's playing as a cornerback, where he's
Speaker 1: you know, half the time he's having to deal with
Speaker 1: not having to be involved in the play. He's in
Speaker 1: a high collision, high impact area. Not only is he
Speaker 1: taking hits running routes and ket tro trying to catch
Speaker 1: the ball, but he's also a block or the point
Speaker 1: of attack. Think about people rolling up on him or
Speaker 1: hitting him in the back or whatever like that. So
Speaker 1: for him to survive those all these car rex that
Speaker 1: he's had to survive for fifteen years is quite impressive.
Speaker 1: His record did he break though? For that? Because that
Speaker 1: was a defensive player, wasn't it said Jones? Was it
Speaker 1: Ed Jones? Too tall? Yeah? Yeah, see the reason that
Speaker 1: I went with the iron Man and it's same thing
Speaker 1: for me. But that was a club record, right, But
Speaker 1: it's still impressive. Oh it is. I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, fourth all time in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Think of someone there's twenty five wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame twenty five And what is
Speaker 1: what is his best strength? Is his best trade? Well
Speaker 1: late tight end? No, no, his okay, okay, complete tight end, Okay,
Speaker 1: take that out of it. Everything, okay, what is okay?
Speaker 1: What what will he be known for? Then? That he
Speaker 1: ran a play without a helmet on, that he's a
Speaker 1: he's a catcher, his hands, That's what he'll be known for.
Speaker 1: To me. When he when he came out of college,
Speaker 1: he always it was not the question wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be about his ability to catch the football, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: He's longevity has helped, but he learned to be a
Speaker 1: complete tight end, no doubt about that, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And he changed his game after they you know, got
Speaker 1: a really powerful running game going. He kind of seeded
Speaker 1: that responsibility. Sure, you know. I we're talking, we're arguing
Speaker 1: about does Terrell Owens deserve to be in the National
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame? Does Randy Moss deserve to be?
Speaker 1: This guy's got more catchers than both of them, and
Speaker 1: they were wide receivers. But we're not we're not arguing
Speaker 1: if he's going to be in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: because now I know, you know, he's going to be
Speaker 1: in there. But to me, that's what makes it so impressive.
Speaker 1: He is an all around impressive guy. I mean, greatest
Speaker 1: guy on this team. Thirty year, thirty plus years now,
Speaker 1: he has been alive and just doing things. And if
Speaker 1: you talk about you're talking about the receptions micking. I
Speaker 1: think that goes hand in hand with the stat of
Speaker 1: saying that he's had consecutive starts, because if you talk
Speaker 1: to him and you know, I've had different talks like
Speaker 1: how do you keep going? And he always comes back
Speaker 1: to the words standard. I feel like that's a word
Speaker 1: you'll always hear from Witten. He says, I just have
Speaker 1: a high, high, high standard. He competes hard at practice.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that he competes harding games. He goes for
Speaker 1: it on every down. And so with that, obviously he's
Speaker 1: become this great, complete tight end that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: been able to get let me finish this, Oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Taylor's minute. Sorry, all right, well I'm on
Speaker 1: a Taylor's time out. Thank you though. But what I'm
Speaker 1: what it is, what I'm saying is that they have
Speaker 1: also and Brian you would know this. They've got to
Speaker 1: draft guys that would eventually replace him, obviously, Anthony being
Speaker 1: one of the guys they've tried, and he just doesn't
Speaker 1: let up. He doesn't. And that's the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: though the preparation and all that, there's no doubt which
Speaker 1: one of the records or which one of the milestones
Speaker 1: of the poll? Which one do you think he would
Speaker 1: vote on? Starts two twenty five? I think always, I
Speaker 1: think the iron man stuff always being there. That's the
Speaker 1: standard grandsons. You can't grandson of a football coach who
Speaker 1: instilled a lot of what you said in him. Always never,
Speaker 1: And that's what his brother told me, is that one
Speaker 1: of his biggest fears is he doesn't want to let
Speaker 1: anybody down. I don't want to let anybody in this
Speaker 1: building down, especially his teammates and his coaches. So what
Speaker 1: was second? But this consecutive game, second consecutive starts? Where
Speaker 1: does the two twenty five come in? That's most all
Speaker 1: time game games played, And that's that's kind of iron man.
Speaker 1: It's not a consecutive thing, but it was third, I think,
Speaker 1: trailing behind those two. That would have been my second
Speaker 1: pick two d and twenty five games. Yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: he's not far below that in terms of consecutive start
Speaker 1: total like it, well, that's like one hundred and sixty something, right,
Speaker 1: something like that. But the last game he missed was
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I understand, you know, but if
Speaker 1: you impress, if you're missing games, you're not getting to
Speaker 1: two twenty five, is my point. That's a lot of games.
Speaker 1: They're all impressive. That's the thing. We don't even need
Speaker 1: to argue about Jason Witten because he is so wildly impressive,
Speaker 1: so such a standard for this team. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Larry FitzGeralds of the world, who is
Speaker 1: that way for the Arizona Cardinals, and so I think,
Speaker 1: you know, they both have immense respect for each other.
Speaker 1: It's been interesting to hear Tony Gonzalez talk about Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: You know, these guys who are on the list that
Speaker 1: Mickey is talking about, and just how he does it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you have to say, when he's having
Speaker 1: that standard and everything that just comes with it, I
Speaker 1: don't think that he gets as excited about the touchdowns
Speaker 1: and the receptions. I think those matter to him. But
Speaker 1: when he was asked just two weeks ago about the
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin record that was also on there. Did that
Speaker 1: come in forth? Yeah? I think it did. Let me
Speaker 1: double check. It was third or fourth behind the two
Speaker 1: twenty five? What was Michael's the yards, the most touchdowns,
Speaker 1: most yards, most yards? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, uh most the
Speaker 1: two twenty five games played twelve percent ten percent was
Speaker 1: passing Irvin for for most receiving yards all time in
Speaker 1: Cowboys history. Cowboys history. But we're talking those the receptions,
Speaker 1: we're talking NFL his sure, sure, and the only two
Speaker 1: of the guys that are ahead of him, Larry Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: is going to be on the field, sure. And Gonzalez
Speaker 1: was the other one. I forgot who was number one?
Speaker 1: I guess I should have remembered that. Huh. Who would
Speaker 1: have been past him in the NFL? It was Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice Ry, Thank you Ja filling me? Who would be
Speaker 1: the most games played in the NFL in total? Right now?
Speaker 1: I have to look that one up. A Penta, Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be somebody like it's gonna be a kicker,
Speaker 1: you know, is what the in In that way, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like I said, maybe Brady, I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: some of these kickers have played no George Bland, somebody
Speaker 1: like that is going to be in career game. Jim,
Speaker 1: I meant active players. No, we're he was thinking about
Speaker 1: the just all time. We're talking all time, all time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's there's some guys like Jim More.
Speaker 1: I mean there's guys that have had some longivity and careers.
Speaker 1: But you know, he again, he plays a high impact
Speaker 1: collision position. Morton Anderson at three eighty two. There you go,
Speaker 1: there you go, he's number one. Yeah, that's a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of games left. Yeah, might as well give
Speaker 1: up on that wood. Yeah. Yeah, German holding strong, like
Speaker 1: ten more seasons. But you know, we're You just said it,
Speaker 1: Rob before you got in there. He's leading the league
Speaker 1: right now, and Mickey the National Football League. He is
Speaker 1: leading it with seventeen receptions, and that's pretty impressive when
Speaker 1: you're looking at guys around the league. The guy right
Speaker 1: behind him is a Tony O'Bryant, and he's just he's
Speaker 1: always been reliable for his quarterbacks. Tonio Brown, No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about oh all time? What do you? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm lost you here, heaving, Like what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: that in these first two games Dak has always trusted him.
Speaker 1: That's probably why he's leading the league right now seventeen receptions.
Speaker 1: Is Jason Witten through fifteen years has always been so
Speaker 1: reliable for his quarterbacks. Got you. I mean the whole
Speaker 1: narrative throughout the Tony Romo era was that he and
Speaker 1: Jason Witten had this unbreakable bond. There you go. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been He's been a safety blanket for Dak too.
Speaker 1: The question is can they get the rest of the
Speaker 1: offense going. And I'm sure he trade some of those
Speaker 1: catches for a more efficient performance than they had in
Speaker 1: Denver overall. Yeah, it was a Tonio Brown second. Yeah
Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. Jason Witten just
Speaker 1: the goat. Obviously gonna be in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: one day. But we're gonna go to Twitter and we
Speaker 1: have a few questions. If Lawrence continues his performance, how
Speaker 1: will that affect the left defensive end spot after Irving returns.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I kind of think of I think
Speaker 1: that they might play David Irving inside at tackle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You felt like the best games he played was playing tackle,
Speaker 1: and he was playing tackle in Green Bay right where, Yes,
Speaker 1: we had the Monster game, but he played he was
Speaker 1: playing as as the left defensive ingiens Tampa if he
Speaker 1: went off too. So yeah, but I think his best position,
Speaker 1: I probably feel like they think his best position is
Speaker 1: playing at defensive tackle. I think that's where he'll he'll
Speaker 1: go when when when he comes back in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, because you know, we haven't seen him use
Speaker 1: that three man front very much. No, but that was
Speaker 1: one of his deals. That was what was it. Put
Speaker 1: him over the nose and let him go a little guy,
Speaker 1: right right, put him over the nose and let him roll.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. No, no, David, David Irving Irving, Yeah, David Irving.
Speaker 1: So he his suspension is not allowing him to be
Speaker 1: around here, not at all. No, he's got two more weeks.
Speaker 1: And that was the same as demandre Moors. No, he
Speaker 1: was allowed to be. He was allowed. Yeah, there's different
Speaker 1: with the performance enhancing things. So so was Demontre Moore
Speaker 1: allowed to be in meetings? No? No, no, but he
Speaker 1: could be bigger. Workout your workout? Yeah, it worked out.
Speaker 1: Eat breakfast yeah, eat breakfast with no. Oh that's right, Nickie.
Speaker 1: Did you assume him again today at all? Oh, I
Speaker 1: did not. No, Now, the other guy that everyone's going
Speaker 1: to be watching in this game, obviously it would have
Speaker 1: been David Johnson versus Zekiel Elliott. Who's going to have
Speaker 1: the better game. But with David Johnson out, Ezekiel at
Speaker 1: looking to have a comeback game? Do you guys think
Speaker 1: that he will? Obviously? Does it depend on this week's practice.
Speaker 1: What are the keys for him to have a good
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals? Well, number one, don't fall behind
Speaker 1: by twenty five points. Yeah, that's gonna be on the team.
Speaker 1: I think Denver did a nice job offensively Denver's Denver's
Speaker 1: offense took Dallas out of their running game. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was their I don't think it was their defense.
Speaker 1: It was their Their offense clearly took him out of
Speaker 1: the right Now. They did some things defensively. Arizona could
Speaker 1: present some of the similar problems that Denver had with
Speaker 1: when it comes to playing defense. They've got a shut
Speaker 1: down corner, they've got linebackers that can run, They've got
Speaker 1: size inside, and you know, if you don't, if you
Speaker 1: don't match up with them, hats on hats, they can
Speaker 1: get to the football and finished plays. This is one
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the league when it comes
Speaker 1: to u when not allowing run after catch, you know,
Speaker 1: and so if you if you don't know, if you're
Speaker 1: one of those teams that don't allow run after catch,
Speaker 1: then your team that tackles well. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where Arizona can can can hurt hurt Dallas a little bit.
Speaker 1: They've got these hybrid strong safety linebacker guys that get
Speaker 1: to the football in a hurry and can and can
Speaker 1: shut you down that way. I do wonder do they
Speaker 1: make more of a commitment to get him established early
Speaker 1: Zeke in this game because they didn't run it well.
Speaker 1: He had nine nine yards on eight carries, but they
Speaker 1: did throw the ball ten times out of the first
Speaker 1: four team plays. So do you make a consider consider
Speaker 1: effort to get him rolling early. We'll see, Because you
Speaker 1: know they stacked the box fine, I mean they against
Speaker 1: eight man fronts all last season. It's not really new
Speaker 1: what the Broncos did. They just didn't execute. The biggest
Speaker 1: concern I talked about it yesterday or then when we
Speaker 1: broke down the game was the fact they got into
Speaker 1: alve personnel and couldn't run the football. Yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: you get in twelve personnel, that means you're playing with
Speaker 1: two tight ends. That means you're bringing guys into the box. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe we will see him this week say you know what,
Speaker 1: we'll play more eleven personnel and try and run it
Speaker 1: that way where you play with three wide receivers and
Speaker 1: went back spread them out. But they tried that, and
Speaker 1: Denver said, you know what, if this is, we're still
Speaker 1: going to play that passing down. We're playing our plays defense.
Speaker 1: We'll leave our linebackers in there. So now be interested
Speaker 1: if Arizona matches propability to do that right, because they
Speaker 1: had the ability to stop the run that way and
Speaker 1: hold up in the passing game. YEP, so absolutely. I
Speaker 1: liked Rob's tweet today about what Bruce Arian said when
Speaker 1: asked about the awesome blueprint that Mickey loves to talk
Speaker 1: about the blueprint. What did Bruce Arians say to that
Speaker 1: when he was asked, are they going to follow the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos plan to beat the Dallas Coutboys. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: if we can borrow Denver's players, which is pretty good.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of speaks to what we've talked about
Speaker 1: is Denver has really elite personnel, and a big reason
Speaker 1: Brian's talked about it. It's the it's their corners on
Speaker 1: the outs side. They were allowed they're so good they
Speaker 1: can leave them on an island and focus everything else
Speaker 1: on everybody else on your offense. If they If Dallas
Speaker 1: continues not to win on the outside, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how many people they put in the box. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not going to run the football. They've got to
Speaker 1: find a way to get guys open on the outside.
Speaker 1: Now is that is that on the players? Yeah? Is
Speaker 1: it on the coaches? Absolutely? You know, Let's see if
Speaker 1: they do some things differently. Let's see if they create opportunity, bunch, formations,
Speaker 1: motion whatever. It's stuff that we don't normally see. Mickey
Speaker 1: and Edward talking about pick routes, rub routes, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. If somebody's gonna play man coverage against me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find ways to try and get my guys open.
Speaker 1: And we'll see if if in fact it, Scotland, Ahan
Speaker 1: and them come out and say, Okay, this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. This is how we're going to attack them.
Speaker 1: And you know they've they've had some struggles in past
Speaker 1: coverage you know, they've they've given up their shared through
Speaker 1: the first two games where they haven't been really as
Speaker 1: great on second down, they haven't been really good on
Speaker 1: third down. He's been a little self deprecating. He knows
Speaker 1: he's got a good deal, he's got a good defense.
Speaker 1: He does. But as an offense, we talk about, hey,
Speaker 1: how do you run the football? How do you this
Speaker 1: offensive line? The running back receives. If the guys don't
Speaker 1: execute on that end, then it doesn't matter what you do.
Speaker 1: Say they got it. You gotta find ways and when
Speaker 1: you when you know, you say they didn't run the ball.
Speaker 1: Early first play of the game, they threw Zeke a
Speaker 1: little dump pass right four yards. It's four yards, second
Speaker 1: and six, handoff to Zeke zero, third and six. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Probably throwing the ball right hits Whitton
Speaker 1: over the middle. If I remember when I went back
Speaker 1: and watched it, the dB came off of his guy
Speaker 1: to make the tackle because Whitton. If Whitton had kept
Speaker 1: going where he was going right, he had open field.
Speaker 1: But he did his little cutback. Wasn't expecting that dB
Speaker 1: to come off his guy stops him one yards short.
Speaker 1: Second time they get the ball, throws the Dez oh
Speaker 1: and Dez caught a pass twelve yards right by the
Speaker 1: way first and ten to Beasley for six. Second and four.
Speaker 1: Zeke cuts back three, third and one Chaz greenfall starts.
Speaker 1: That would have been another run. Right now it's third
Speaker 1: and six. What are you doing? You're throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: Then they got into that possession where the game got
Speaker 1: delayed right right, And I think they were second and
Speaker 1: ten at the forty six when the game got delayed
Speaker 1: and they tried some fancy fake screen or whatever. It
Speaker 1: didn't work. And now it's third and ten, right, you're
Speaker 1: not running the ball, and they at the end of
Speaker 1: the half, they got into a two minute situation two
Speaker 1: where they threw it like that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: think Denver, I think next time he touches the ball
Speaker 1: was on the goal line, sure, first and goal to three.
Speaker 1: He got zero, right, and then they scored Denver. Denver's
Speaker 1: offense had a big hand in how that that game went.
Speaker 1: And now they didn't get the ball back forever. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we'll have the ball back tomorrow. When you were on
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