1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as play No 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: your hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Welcome everyone into another edition of Talking Cowboys. 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Of course, always joined by Mickey, Rob Brian and myself 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: in the SWBC Mortgage studio. Very exciting day around here 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys facility because of the fact that 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: they're finally moving on officially officially from the Denver loss 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: with the first practice starting today. Mickey was just getting 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: the full report for us in the one brief minute. 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: You had to see it due to the pushback they've made. 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: But I'm sure you saw your guy thirty two out 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: there because Garrett said he will practice, and oh was 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: out there full for him. Pats, I was ready to go. 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: He's all ready to go. Oh good headline, Rob, Yeah, 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: I should use that yesterday. Yeah, yeah, should ask me 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: deadline rider consultant man. I used to ride headline. As 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said, Tay, the ball game is that ball 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: game is behind us. It's behind us onto the cards, 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: behind a lot of other people. But it's behind them. Huh, Well, 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: those are the fans that you said don't listen, So 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: they need to listen to you today because you said it, 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and you said Orlando Scandrick would probably be ready to 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: go after ten days post surgery. It has been ten 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: days officially today, and we got to expect his inspect 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: his hand yesterday. He showed it to us. Wasn't even 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: wrapped up. What did you see? I saw stitches still there, 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: but the skinhead gone together. So he said it's healed, 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: so he's he should be good to go. And he 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: explained to was it Clarency grabbed from behind, yes, on 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: the shoulders and gave him a shoulder massage. What to 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: show him that his left hand was working? Brought us 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: How will they be able to wrap it up and 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: get him game ready and everything without effecting anything? Yeah, 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I think that. You know, he always plays with gloves anyway, 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: so they'll find a way to get sweat. Yeah, they have, 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: they will. They have a way. They have a have 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: a thing like tough skin or a fake skin they 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: call it. They'll be able to put it on there 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: and and wrap that as long as like Mickey's describing that, 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: he has the ability to grip. That's all that he 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: really really needs. I mean, the way he heard it 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: was unfortunate because he was reaching in for a tackle, 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: and you know, he tends to swat at you know, 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: instead of wrap up. He's a he's either a go 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: low shoulder body tackle guy, or he'll swat his hands 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: at at the ball carrier's legs or feet when he's 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: down that low. So he's got to be careful of 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: having that happen again. You know, we're just coming off 50 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: that surgery. Yeah, I think they're past the point of 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: concern about infection with that thing. And usually guys that 52 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: have that injury they miss about a week because of that. 53 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: And he's still got the stitches in. But that, like 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: you said, it's healed up at play. Yeah, so now 55 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: it becomes functionality with whatever that Just put a pad 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: on top of it and then put a larger make 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: him wear a larger glove. Yeah, fake skin was fake 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: fake skin it on top And like I said, as 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: long as he has the ability to use his fingers, 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. Did he tell you anything else, 61 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: Mickey in the locker room that you found interesting that 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: the good Dallas Cowboys fans listening to this podcast should 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: know said he could have played last week, but they 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to risk the infection. That the thing the 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: incision breaking. So I mean, he's been out there running arobically. 66 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: He should be fine, So let's go play football, and 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: especially now with the Cowboys having the secondary issues with 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: depth right now, especially, I mean Garrett said today he 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: thinks Cheeto doesn't even know what he could do in 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: practice obviously limited with his hamstring issues. But how is it. 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: No one was like, he ain't making it bad, No one, 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Carroll ain't coming back anytime soon. They sent him home yesterday, 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: so he's still still feeling the effects and you know, 74 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: probably put him in Did they put him in the 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: Texas Tech Shed to keep it dark? Leechy, I'll tell 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: you what. That was a bad story back in the day. 77 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: It was. But yeah, what you said, they set them home, Yeah, 78 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: the dark, Yeah, you're right, the darkness. It doesn't sound 79 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: like it's this week for sure. Yeah, he's he's recuperating. Yeah, yeah, 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: I would not expect him this week. And that was 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: something that you know, he said in the walk off, 82 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: so you know, we got a little information there. But 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: he also said Rico wasn't Yeah doing still not clear. Yeah, 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: and Ricos more is more about I think about the 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: jaw and the neck. Ricos was whiplash, you know, and 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: it ended up being the concussionary symptoms. So yeah, that's 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: to me why you know these things are it's a 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: it's a touchy subject to deal with because you ask, well, 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: why can this guy come back in five days ron Leary, 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, or why can this guy what does it 91 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: take eight weeks and getting not a doctor but various degrees. 92 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Why they have the concussion protocol. There are certain symptoms 93 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: you could get from a fall or something where you 94 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: bump your head and yeah, it could hurt obviously and 95 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: take you out of the game, but it might not 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: be a full blown bad time concussion. Yeah, there's different 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: steps of that protocol. Obviously, I think I have and 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: I just didn't know it. We played in that era 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: where they didn't really care about us. So you saw stars, Yeah, 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: like Lucky Charms guy, you know, the magically delicious guy. 101 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, you see like the leper Con and that. Yeah, 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: everything just kind of you know, everything is real pink. 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: It was like a pink and you almost want to 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: throw up. What you No, No, yeah, Taylor, I haven't 105 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: had a concussion, but I had a serious fall where 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: I hit the back of my head on a tennis court, 107 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: so you know how hard that would be, and then 108 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: you trip over the line. I tripped on my own foot. 109 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: I think it was just kind of one of those 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: things trying to slide on the play, trying to get 111 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: like a ground structure that you go over there, get 112 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: that forehand, I saw stars. Oh I did not feel good. 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't even knew if I thought it was a cushion. 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, playing a bad era where they didn't really 115 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: think you. I don't think so middle linebacker days now. 116 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I fell once playing basketball on the driveway. Yeah, and 117 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: hit my battle get you hit the back of my head? 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: Battle get you started bleeding? To go get stitches? Yeah? 119 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Not good? Yeah, no, that's not good exactly. Coach, How 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: do you play around this though? This week? You okay 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: with everything? But Orlando? Yeah, well, if Orlando's out there, 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: it's good to go that way, right. Lewis has got 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: to play, Yeah, Woods has got to play. Yeah, um, 124 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: I still like I still like Woods playing a little 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: extra stuff. If he has to play in the slot. 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be an issue. I mean, 127 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: they're still if a woozier can't go. Now, if a 128 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: woozy can go, you feel a lot better, right. If 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: he can't go, then Ben Rickery's gotta wait. You saw enough. 130 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: You saw enough from Woods to say no, no, no. 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that they had to use him in 132 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: some dime stuff. Okay, you know, yeah, I was. I'm okay, 133 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I don't I think he's a better covered 134 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: guy than he is one of these is a cool 135 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: down in the box players. I think you talk about 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: the movement and the skill he has. We saw him 137 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: do some of that stuff and though it camp, you know, 138 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: if you walk down to the other end of the field, yeah, 139 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: covering the tight ends, but you know, he was running 140 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: around pretty well the other day, moving and doing what 141 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: he had to do that. I don't think it's a 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: total throwaway idea to say, okay, well, hey, let's put 143 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: him in some situations where we can have him covered 144 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. So what do you think they do? 145 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: So Scandrick on the right side, Brown on the left, 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: and then Lewis comes in on Nickel, Yes, and then 147 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: Lewis would play on the rights on the right side, 148 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: and then Scandrick goes inside. Right. You know, it occurred 149 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: to me because when Brown had to go outside, it 150 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: was for Skandrick on the right side. But if I 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: remember correctly, most of the time last year when he 152 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: was playing and playing well, he a lot of times 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: was on the left side, wouldn't he, yes, because they 154 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: moved car to the right, right right, right? Yeah, so 155 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, I mean, I don't know if right or left. 156 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Let me tee this to him. We're gonna need to 157 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. This is another thing too. Scandrick 158 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: playing the slot good. We all understand how he can 159 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: do that. But if Larry Fitzgerald plays inside in the slot. 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: You know, Larry Fitzgerald doesn't run great, but but he 161 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: will make every single contested catch. Who is your best 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: contested cornerback of the guys of a Scandrick, I mean 163 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: contested player if the guy's gonna be you know, does 164 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown have better contested skills than than Scandrick in 165 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: that situation? Okay? Yeah, over somebody like Anthony Brown. Yeah, 166 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: but we're saying, I'm just saying, hey, when you get 167 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: in that situation where it's inside. It's tough and now, 168 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: oh we saw Anthony Brown get a bad penalty last 169 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: week with that. But he's aggressive. I mean, he's hands 170 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: the face. He's gonna stay with you, he's gonna fight. 171 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: We've seen him undercut some routes. I just like how 172 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Scandrick always seems to be in position, right, He's not 173 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: always gonna make the interception, but like a contested type play. Yeah, 174 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: he's when he's at the top of his game. I 175 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: like him in that situation. Would you put but again, 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: you got you gotta factor in the the injury too 177 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: that he's gonna see. That's what I'm saying. I've always 178 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: liked Scandrick doing one thing, not both things, right, he 179 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: was either playing outside or inside. Yeah, I don't disagree 180 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: with you there, but I think with Scandrick though, you know, 181 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: he's he's better against the quicker guy. You know, maybe 182 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: he gets in the it's the wrong word I'm gonna use, 183 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: but it bullied is you know, the wrong word really, 184 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: But the physical side of it though, we've seen him 185 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: match up on in training camp with Dez Bryant and 186 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,359 Speaker 1: have some succes. I like what you're saying there. Battle Deza. 187 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I like that aspect of it, 188 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: But I'm I wonder if if the way that they 189 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: play it that with Arizona's ability to make plays down 190 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: the field and to the side outside the numbers, do 191 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: you take Scandrick who can run on the outside, and 192 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: leave him outside and let him carry those routes and 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: put somebody more physical inside to handle Fitzgerald interesting thought. Yeah, 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there. Yeah, 195 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: as we get along in the next couple of days, 196 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: we'll figure out what they're gonna do. Trust me on that. 197 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: We are and you guys, we were talking about a 198 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: little bit of how people were freaking out hearing that 199 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Dak might have an ankle injury. No sweat there. Garrett 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: cleared it up today, said he'll have no limitations with 201 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: the ankle. I have a hard time even calling it 202 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: an injury. You know, I think it was probably sore. 203 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a hard hit and he got 204 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: bent back pretty good. Yeah he had. I mean he 205 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: had to get taped, but I didn't I didn't see 206 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: real limitations out there. He's a tough guy, obviously. You 207 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: know what he told his Tuesday night he said, he said, 208 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: I've sprained my ankle so many times it doesn't even 209 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: bother me. Yeah, ever, that tape it up and goes. 210 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: He normally doesn't wear tape during the games. Right when 211 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: you tape it, it prevents the swelling, it prevents it 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: ballooning up on your right away. No, but what I mean, like, 213 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: if he has to wear tape in Monday night's game, 214 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be a problem. Yeah, yeah's tape 215 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: up the shoes, maybe spat him up and go. I 216 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: don't think there'll be a problem there will see. I mean, 217 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: Garrett even kind of talked about maybe instead of taking 218 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: eight reps this week. We've yet to see in two games. 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: From what I understand, Dak not take all the reps 220 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: in practice. You know, the backup quarterbacks have been primarily 221 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: the scout team guys. So let's see if the eight 222 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: reps this week that maybe more or Cooper Rush take 223 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: two of the eight just to kind of give them 224 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of a rest. And I see what 225 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: you're saying. Now, we have a caller on the line. 226 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: You guys can call us the numbers two, one, four, eight, seven, two, 227 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: twenty one or two. Nebbie is on the line for 228 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: us today. Hi, everyone listen. As far as this game 229 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Monday night is concerned, we have to put pressure on 230 00:11:50,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: Carson H. Palmer. I get takeaways and and score touchdowns 231 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: because if we don't score touchdowns, we can't win. Take care. 232 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for being patient with me, and have a great 233 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: weekend and a great week bye. Thank you. Every good question. 234 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: So he's talking about pressure on Carson Palmer. I think 235 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: that's a great question. It gets into our conversation about 236 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense versus the Cardinals offense, and I think, 237 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting excited, not excited, but this is another 238 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: struggling offensive line, So this d line should be excited 239 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: about getting some pressure to Carson Palmer. Yeah. I think 240 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: symptomatic of their problems. They played the Colts last week 241 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: and the first play of the game, Carson Palmer takes 242 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: a five step drop, it's sack. It gets hit absolutely 243 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, head coach wasn't happy, wasn't well. 244 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: Now the quarterback, pretty easy going guy, wasn't happy either, 245 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right. It's another team that's got and 246 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: they've got some injuries on that line too, and we'll 247 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: get into it. But but yeah, some some inconsistency there front. 248 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: So do you think Demonterrey Moore can help? I do 249 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: now he's out there practicing. I do first time since 250 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: and when we get to our inactives on Friday, I 251 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: think it'll be an interesting conversation of who do you 252 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: not want to play or who doesn't play that day. 253 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: You know you have to think about can you're going 254 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: to address all those defensive ends. I don't know if 255 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: you are. You know, there might be some other areas 256 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: that you have to think about this team. So, yeah, 257 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: where where he fits in will be be key because 258 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: there could be a possibly of one of those young 259 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: guys sitting if you talk about Taco or maybe even 260 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: Tapper as one of the guys that would would sit 261 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: if to get more on the field. But yeah, I 262 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: think he can. I think he can help. I think 263 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: he can help in a couple of different ways on 264 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: the edge on that right side, and I think he 265 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: can help us a nickel tackle too, And some of 266 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: the rush that they were able to generate in the 267 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: preseason was coming him playing as a nickel tackle. When 268 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: you think about it, he's one of the most veteran 269 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: guys on this defensive end rotation. Andrey yeah, yeah, you know, 270 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: five six year veteran. I didn't know. He told us yesterday. 271 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: He is his older god brother is von Miller. Yeah. 272 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: I saw that in your article. That was very interesting 273 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: because he was saying, yeah, I took some advice from 274 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware and then it said god brother von Miller, 275 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: like just casually. Yeah, but they're both Aggies, right, Yeah. Absolutely. 276 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: He helped him get to A and M and they 277 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: he worked with those guys in the offseason at like 278 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: a pass rushing summit. He's trying to work on being 279 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: a better student of the game. And you know, these 280 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: two games he sat out. He's anxious to get out there. 281 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: He's got some experience. I think he can help this rotation. 282 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: We talked about what he was able to do at Seattle, 283 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, and that's a different group out there. They 284 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: lived to rush the passer, and I think he learned 285 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: some things out there. I think he showed some positives 286 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: some the up ticket at training camp. Let's see if 287 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: he can get more involved and take advantage of some 288 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: other things that these the Cardinals are going to struggle with. 289 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: And then the other thing that Nebbie brought up, which 290 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I think is a good point. These Cowboys have actually 291 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: been able to get some good takeaways these first two games, 292 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: something that they've kind of struggled with these past two seasons. So, Mick, 293 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you think that your guy Orlando can help get some 294 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: picks or something like that. Crazy? Oh, I don't know. 295 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's never been a big interception guy. Fumbles 296 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: to run celebration. They tend to win games when he 297 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: does get turnovers. I believe he had one against Chicago 298 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: one night on a Monday night, and he had another 299 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: one against the Redskins. I think so if you get 300 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: an Orlando Scandric interception, then you're likely going to get 301 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: a win. Maybe that's something we need to look That 302 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: would be a Statye, they can't protect Palmer. I want 303 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: to see some fumbles in the pocket then yeah, Demndre 304 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: help with that. Yeah, absolutely, Well if he can get 305 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback, yeah, And you know what, I 306 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: think they can keep all those guys on the line active. 307 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: So you're gonna keep You're gonna dress probably with it five. 308 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna deactivate Noah Brown, aren't you. Yeah, that's your call. Well, no, 309 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: he I think he's I think he's gonna be an actor. 310 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: I think they might need to think about with something 311 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: Corner can Wicker? Are you too well? If Woozi's not playing, yeah, 312 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: Ben Rickery's up. Okay, and think about it. They It 313 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: wasn't out of necessity, it was just numbers. Bell was 314 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: active last game. Right, they don't need him, yeah, right, 315 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: they don't see you. No, he has to be the 316 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: swinging tackle. Yeah, and he and Lunei are the two guys, right, Yeah, Yeah, 317 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be We need to sit down and put 318 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: pen to paper and figure it all out this week. 319 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: We will will, we will, We'll get there, and before 320 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: we get there, we're gonna get to some tell me more. 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: But we're gonna do that right after our first break. 322 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: So we just have a full segment jam packed with 323 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: information on this Cardinals offense and how this Cowboys defense 324 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: can prove that maybe last week was just a bad game, 325 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: bad day at the office. We'll be right back. 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And we are back here in the 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studio and where we are getting to a 382 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: little bit of Cowboys defense versus the Cardinals offense. So 383 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: as we always do, or at least second week we've 384 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: done this, We're gonna play some tell me more and 385 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Robert, who is the guy on 386 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense that you're going to tell us more about. 387 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with c J two K Chris Johnson, who, 388 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: by the way, is turning thirty two years old on 389 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: Saturday and has the same neck tats as Mickey Spagnola. Guys, 390 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: you guys are matched up. Yep, yeah, same guy. They 391 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: went to the same tattoo parlor. Well, maybe you should 392 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: have picked Chris Johnson. What you want me show you 393 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: show us? Yeah, we'll have a photo posted later. Awesome, awesome, 394 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: all right. Chris Johnson signed back to the Cardinals roster 395 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: after being cut at final cuts. According to reports, he 396 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: was not happy about that they signed him in July. 397 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: He thought his roster spot was probably safe behind David Johnson. 398 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: But with that elite running back on the shelf for 399 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: a few months, they're going with a committee at running 400 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: back in Arizona, and it's they haven't named a starter. 401 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: But if you look at the work that was distributed 402 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: in that game, he came into the second quarters, art 403 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: of the second half. He was the guy in the 404 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: fourth quarter when they beat the Colts, and he led 405 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: them in rushing eleven carries for forty four yards. So 406 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: we'll see you know, he or all those guys, Kerwin 407 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: Williams Andrea Ellington. They've got to get that running game going. 408 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: They're averaging less than three yards per carry tay in 409 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: the first two games, thirtieth in rushing, and when you 410 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: think about the problems they're having protecting Carson Palmer, they've 411 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: got to get some seblance of a running game going 412 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, who clearly struggled last week in Denver. 413 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: So they are missing David Johnson just a little bit 414 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: over dad. Yeah, yeah, but I did ask Bruce arians 415 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: about Chris Johnson today. They're happy with him. He says 416 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: he's still got it. Obviously he was an elite, elite 417 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: rusher in his earlier years. Oh yeah, we'll see. Two 418 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: years ago, before the Cowboys drafted Ezekiel Elliott, he was 419 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: a free agent and there was a lot of talk 420 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: around Cowboys Nations. Should they go after Chris Johnson? Should 421 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: they you know? And then really he got picked up 422 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: by the Cardinals and they're like, well, that's a guy 423 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: we could have got, and it would have been interesting 424 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: to see the flip yeah behind this offensive line. Well, 425 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: hopefully the Cowboy You look what the Cowboys are doing 426 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: the run defense is usually solid. This is a top 427 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: five run defense last year. Just some problems with tackling 428 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: and run fits in all that last week in Denver. 429 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: They've got to be able to contain Johnson in this game. 430 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: Mc brian rob just told you that they have to 431 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: get their running game going against this Cowboys defensive line. 432 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: With the added to Montreal Moore, will they be able 433 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: to stop at their running game and kind of keep 434 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: them in this stalemate? There's not many times they could 435 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: use the word stalemates. It's a great word. Yeah, I 436 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: think that you're talking about the Cowboys. The Cowboys going 437 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: up against their run game and if you know Johnson, 438 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: how do you come back? It is. They've had their 439 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: issues and a lot of it has to do on 440 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: first down. That's one of their biggest problems is their 441 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: inability to run the football. They just don't have that. 442 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at what they do on 443 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: second down, there's not a team in the league that 444 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: averages more yards they have to gain on second down. 445 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: Then then then what Arizona does. They're like almost nine 446 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: point two six yards you know, an attempt there to 447 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: have to get So, yeah, their struggles the Cowboys if 448 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: they continue to tackle poorly. I think that's the cowboys 449 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: biggest issue when they when run defense. I don't think 450 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: it's getting bodies to the ball. I think it's actually 451 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: trying to bring guys down. And we saw that in 452 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: the Giants game. They were outstanding in the in the 453 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: In the Denver game not so much. So if if 454 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: you get things going and all of a sudden, you know, 455 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Sean Lee's missing tackles and hit heat this missing tackles 456 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: and Jaylen Smith is missing tackles, then there's gonna be 457 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: some problems. You know that Arizona has got to try 458 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: and run the football. I mean they saw Arizona, I 459 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: keep saying, they saw Denver have some success doing it. 460 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: So hey, be creative in the way you get your 461 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: scheme going. But you know, we'll see I don't think 462 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: it's I don't think they can run the football, but 463 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: every time I think it kind of remember I remember 464 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: back to the Hall of Fame game a little bit, 465 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I know it was a preseason game. 466 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: If you remember the first colle drives, Dallas had a 467 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of their starters and defense in that game, and 468 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: they were able to move the ball running it with 469 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: some success. Safeties in that game, yea they had your 470 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: safeties and yeah, a couple of other guys playing the game. 471 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: So I mean it it just maybe maybe they feel 472 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: maybe they feel like there's something they can do to 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: have some success. So one of the things I saw 474 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: in that Denver game, and I don't know how this happened, 475 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: but it seemed to happen repeatedly, the defensive line seemed 476 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: to get caved to one side of the ball, like 477 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: three guys. Yeah washed. How did that happen? Do they 478 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: block that way or were they? Were they chasing and 479 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: instead of playing there? Sometimes when the cows they play, 480 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: they slide, they shift their front. Sometimes you could catch 481 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: them in the cow was they like to slant their front. Okay, 482 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: and then you slant your front one way and play 483 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: the linebackers the other way and try and take up 484 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: all the gaps. Well, that's sometimes when they get washed. 485 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: That's a big, big problem. They catch them in a 486 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: run like a run stunt, and then all of a sudden, 487 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: when the linebackers get blocked or get bumped or step late, 488 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: it's a bad Which is the other thing I saw 489 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: they had there was too many times their offensive linemen 490 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: were on the linebackers in a heartbeat. Yeah, they struggled Dallas. 491 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: Dallas had problems control. It's it's obvious they had troubles 492 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: controlling the line of scrimmage. And like what Mickey's saying, 493 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: if you get washed and now it's like, okay, Jalen 494 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: Smith has got to make a player right there in 495 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: the in the B gap. And he doesn't make it, 496 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: then you're gonna have some problems. I mean, that's that's 497 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: the way this defense is built. It's built on movement, 498 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: it's built on attacking the gaps. And when they don't 499 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: attack the gaps or control the gaps, then they're going 500 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: to give up place. All right, Well, you tell us 501 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: the guy that you are watching on the Cardinals. Oh yeah, 502 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, And I think, guy, yeah and I and 503 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: this is one of the better teams in the league 504 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to the big place, the twenty plus 505 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: yard place. And that's a lot of it has to 506 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: do with Carson Palmer and the way he throws the football. 507 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: The ball is going to go down the field, that's 508 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: gonna go to the outsides, it's gonna be outside the numbers. 509 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: They like to attack along the sidelines more than they do. 510 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: If they're going to attack in the middle of the field, 511 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: they're going to attack you with Fitzgerald. That's how they'll 512 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: do that. But to get they tried their vertical team 513 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: that works the outsides, be ready for that. Where he's 514 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: had his problems is that he has not been as 515 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: accurate throwing the football down in a lot of those situations. 516 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: So there's about a fifty four percent passer. Teams that 517 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: have been able to get bodies near him because he 518 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: it takes him, he's gonna throw the ball long down 519 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: the field. He needs to step into his throws. Teams 520 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: that have put pressure on him have been able to 521 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: make him be a little short with his delivery and 522 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: it's caused the ball to go short and on the outside, 523 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: and he's had some incompletion. He's one of the better 524 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league when you blitz him because he's 525 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: able to handle that. He's seen a lot of that, 526 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: So you got to be careful about that. You get 527 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: him inside the thirty yard line, he has big time problems. 528 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: He's like a fifty four percent rated quarterback inside the thirty. 529 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: They just haven't found the way with no David Johnson 530 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: in the lineup, that ability not to run the football 531 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: or throw him a screen has really hurt hurt the 532 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Again, you got to watch him the big 533 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: play from him, but inside the thirty there's some things 534 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: you could do to him scheme wise that causes him 535 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: a little problems. That's what the Cowboys need to do. Yeah. Well, 536 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: one of the better things you said against that, because 537 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: you gave us a good picture of him. You said 538 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: that he doesn't he understands the blitz. He can, Yeah, 539 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: he can read it. We've talked about it before. The 540 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense doesn't really run the blitz too often, so 541 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna be kind of one of their strengths. Maybe 542 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: they'll play on But I mean, Rod Marinelli, I'm sure 543 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: he's just looking to see, Okay, let's let's beat this quarterback. Yeah, 544 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna they gotta get bodies to him. You get 545 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: bodies to him, and that's any quarterback in the national 546 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: foot bully. But there's some of those veteran guys that 547 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: rely a little bit more on the cleaner pocket to 548 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: have to make plays. He's not going to move around 549 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. He's going to stand 550 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: there and make throws, so you have to be ready 551 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: for that, and like say, be ready for that ball 552 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: going down the field. And JJ Nelson your guy, you 553 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: mentioned him the other day. He's a guy you've got 554 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: to watch for. This is a defense when it's at 555 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: its best, they don't give up big plays. And he 556 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: had a forty five yard touchdown last week, thirty yard 557 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: completion that got them in position to go win the game. 558 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: So he's a guy on the outside. You mentioned Fitzgerald, 559 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: another guy that they've got to contend with in the 560 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: passing game. Actually in his career his longs for three 561 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: years are forty five, eighty and sixty four. So he 562 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: gets down the field. He does do that. He does well. 563 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Brian just told you about the quarterback, Mickey, why don't 564 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: you tell us about an offensive lineman that's trying to 565 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: protect him well from getting in the pocket. They are 566 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: struggling on their offensive line from a health standpoint. They 567 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: had two starters miss last week. DJ Humphreys their left tackle, 568 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: and Mike Ayupatti. They had to go to John Wentzel 569 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: and Alex Boom. Yes, the name John Wetzel is familiar 570 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys fans. And then the head coach wasn't happy with 571 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: the right guard Evan Bam and the right tackle Jared Veldeer, 572 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: and Jared Veldeer is changing positions. He was the left tackle, 573 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: he's been playing left tackle. They moved him to right tackle, 574 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: and he has struggled in both of their games. They're 575 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: Lyne has struggled in both games. Palmer's been sacked five times, 576 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: four times by the Colts. And I don't think anybody 577 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: looks at the Colts and go, oh, look at this, 578 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: these guys say, but not just sacked four times, he 579 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: got to hit nine more times. And when I started 580 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: watching film, the guy I circled right away was number 581 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: sixty eight Veldeer because he looked like he was really 582 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: struggling in As a matter of fact, he's an eighth 583 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: year veteran. He's thirty years old, and during training camp 584 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: he took a personal day because he was contemplating retiring, 585 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: and he came back the next day. Last year, he 586 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: missed half the season with a torn tricep. The second 587 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: half of the season get put on ir So I'm 588 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: not saying it's a Doug Freeze situation, but you know, 589 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's sitting there going, this is a second time 590 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: I've torn my tricep. I'm thirty years old, I've played 591 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: all these games. Do I really want to play? And 592 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: he's got a ten million dollars cap hit, so they 593 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: weren't happy with his performance. And you know, he signed 594 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: a big contract in twenty fourteen coming over from the Raiders. 595 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: He's a veteran. He started a lot of games, but 596 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: he hadn't played well in these first two games. Boy 597 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Mickey gave you a great thumbnail what this guy is. 598 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: And I think that the way you attack him is 599 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: with movement. Make him have to move. He rush this 600 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: guy down the middle. He's good enough to sit down 601 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: on and hold you right there. But the problem he 602 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: has is the more movement and he has to deal with, 603 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: the more it throws him off balance, the more it 604 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: makes him have to lunge, the more he has to 605 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: try and stop. I think he's a strong guy. I 606 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: just don't think the athletic ability is really really there. 607 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: He has he had. He did play as a left tackle. 608 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: I always felt like that was a really a bad 609 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: position for him. More of a right tackle guy. But yeah, 610 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: when you watch him play that there's going to be 611 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: some some good opportunities for de Marcus Lawrence, d Law 612 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: get that half a sat back to do some good 613 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: things they stole from him, law Law. I'm getting excited 614 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: you're telling me that he doesn't do well against the 615 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: movement because we've talked about DeMarcus Lawrence in exhaust these 616 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: past few weeks, deservedly so. Obviously four sacks on his 617 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: career stat line right for this season. But three and 618 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: a half and a half they took one away from 619 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: a half a sack away from him. That's wrong. How 620 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: many targets did they give Old? Way too many? Way 621 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: too many? But get me started on God, but what 622 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying that market you might have another field day 623 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: because we've told you guys, he's lost a couple of pounds. 624 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: We don't know exactly. He's just lost way to move around, 625 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: to get more movement, to be quicker on the edge. 626 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Just speed it. He'll beat him on the outside. They 627 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: don't help him out. Yeah, if it turns into today 628 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: that they don't put it tight into that side, which 629 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: they didn't do in the games. I didn't well, by 630 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: the way, I don't know because on their depth chart. 631 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: They only had one tight end and it was Jermaine 632 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: Gresham and he didn't play last week. Yeah, they've got 633 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: They had five five offensive starters missing in the game 634 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: if you conclude Johnson, John Brown, the two offensive lineman, 635 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: and Gresham. Yeah, so we'll be looking at their practice report. 636 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: It does see who's coming back who's not. Because obviously 637 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: the Colts not a very strong team. We're almost able 638 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: to beat them. And sorry for not reading the whole 639 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: email and stealing your guy. Oh it's okay, but if 640 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: you got anything else I could say about him, well, 641 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: you know what, Actually, Mabbe, I'm gonna steal something for 642 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: you from you today because I have a special Mickey's 643 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: minute today. And unfortunately it's not Mickey You're gonna rant, 644 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm not, but our dear friend in New York. If 645 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: you guys have been on Twitter this morning, I know 646 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: Mickey hasn't so he hasn't seen it yet, but he 647 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: had a special rant about the giants and tents produced 648 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: something just magical for us. It's time for Mickey's minute. 649 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: Come on, stop it already, all right, everybody's coming up 650 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: with these doll but this offensive lineman only twenty seven 651 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: percent of the time was Eli Prichard from his left 652 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: side on Monday nights when John mcdonnaugh's the announced stop 653 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: stop creating some narrative that you everybody knows football better 654 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: than somebody else. Your eyeballs tell the story. The offensive 655 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: line sucks, Barrett, that's my stat. You want a stat, 656 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: you want sabermetrics offensive don look at Don look Greg 657 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: and tweeted last night, We're said on the Michael Caju 658 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: offensive line stakes, that's the stat. Give me a break. 659 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do, Michael. We're gonna be like 660 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: accounts now in baseball, was that the Pythagorean theorem, the 661 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: pythagraphy and theorem faid that the red Jane Pump and 662 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: the line did their record. Some people, having won that 663 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: the Pythagorean theorem said to the tire offensive law that 664 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: they're walk When I talk at that there, my son 665 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: like that. The people that trust all Agorian theorem. Look, 666 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: the people that listen to Theythagorian theorem, the people that 667 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: sit there at their desk that only know the naked 668 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: body through National geographic that do the math with the 669 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Pythagorean theorem, that's what they sound like just like on 670 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: ESPN radio. Who is he? I mean he was like 671 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: a host on radio, Yes in New York, and I 672 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: mean there's more two from the Michael k Show. I 673 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 1: think it's who he is on He gets a little 674 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: more frustrated and talks about I've seen football for forty years, sporty. 675 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm a man, that's one of the worst offensive lines 676 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And they have not gone this long 677 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: without scoring twenty points since seventy seven seventy eight when 678 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: Joe Bizarchik was their quarterback. Patterson played Joe God, he's 679 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: smitten all So take down with your Pythagorean theorem. Take 680 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: that God. He said that on the air. Yes, Mickey, 681 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: you're the zinmaster compared to that guy. Mickey's a minute 682 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: when never that was an impressive minute, though I'd have 683 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: to send a heck of a minute. But I'm glad 684 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't in sitting yeah really in a rain suit 685 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: to do radio that guy. Or maybe I can. I 686 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: can pull a D'Angelo Williams. Huh, that's the true Captain 687 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: angry pants right there. Man in New York in the studio, 688 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: you know, we're complaining about offensive lines. And different things 689 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: like that. But yes, we saw it in the first week. 690 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: The Giants have a lot of issues over there, and 691 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: it's it's very frustrating to some fans. But I mean, 692 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: just that guy, well, he's obviously a fan. He's not 693 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: a professional radio guy. Oh I think he's a radio guy. Well, 694 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: maybe he's a radio guy, but he's a he's a 695 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: Giants fan and he's pissed off. And that's what happens 696 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: to fans that get on the radio. We're all homers, Mickey, 697 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: come on, man now, now, not like that. We're all homershot. 698 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: Be realistic, good stuff, got to be realistic. Well, Dave 699 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: Hellman just tweeted out he actually got to watch practice 700 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: today and he wrote that Anthony Hitchens was not participating, 701 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: but he was on the field. And we've been time. 702 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: He's getting closer and closer and close. Next week maybe 703 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: against the Rams or do you think they'd hold him 704 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: until the Packers. It's a short week next week, so 705 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: it just depends. It just depends on where he's at physically. 706 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I think by next week, I'm gonna say forty nine ers. 707 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: That would be after the bye, after the bye that 708 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: I thought the Packers were at Packers are October eighth, 709 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: and then there's the bye, and then there's the Rams 710 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: Rams Packers by Oh, then Packers That's what I was thinking, 711 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and get through the short week 712 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: and then Green Bay week. Yeah, defense offense ready to 713 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: great For that conversation of who should start at mic linebacker, 714 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: we'll have to have it. Yeah, we'll have to have it. 715 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, have you been impressed so far with 716 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: what you've seen from Jalen Smith? I have, I have, 717 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: I have to. I don't clain him a lot more 718 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: than I ever thought. I was number of snaps alone 719 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: that he played I've been I was so wrong about 720 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: him as a player. So can Hitchins play the strong 721 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: side because I don't think Damien Wilson has played. He 722 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: at least didn't play very well in this last game, 723 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: what little he was in there. Yeah, across the board 724 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: thought he was. I thought he was a liability. You know. 725 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to play him at SAM 726 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: linebacker though, Anthony Hitchins, I know, because he's he should 727 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: If he's not, maybe he's weak. Yeah, maybe maybe you 728 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: find a way to if you play him on Nickel uh, 729 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: Damian Wilson, no or Jalen Smith play Hitchens with Lee. Okay, 730 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: that takes, but that takes then that would take that 731 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: takes off the field, and that would maybe make y. 732 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: Maybe you make Jay. You're Sam, you're Sam linebacker. You 733 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: don't want to move Sean. You can't do n's your will. Yeah, 734 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's gonna be an interesting conversation. If 735 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: you're if you're if you're in bass and you're the Sam, 736 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: then you're covering, you're off the field. If you're a 737 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: bass base, you're on the tight end, around the tight end, 738 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: you're playing over the Titans. I don't want him going back. Well, 739 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: what could do is you could use him to hold up. 740 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: He could be a hold up guy on the you know, 741 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: at the point of attack, right. He could be a 742 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: guy that plays with some link, plays with some strength, 743 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: plays with some power, leverage the tight end, set the edge, 744 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: and then let people run from the middle. That's what 745 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: you can do with him. Let's see if they do that. 746 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd move him to Sam linebacker, 747 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: but it's surely possible if he feels more comfortable with 748 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: his foot Unless they just share the position. Yeah, which 749 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: was the thought with Durant. I think he got it 750 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: was out there practicing, by the way, Yeah, I think that. 751 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: I think you got to find a way to get 752 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: get him on the field. I mean, you can't just 753 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: let Anthony Hitchin said no, not in my opinion, you 754 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: had one hundred tackles for you last Yeah. Yeah, he's 755 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: too solid for this team. 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Hey, 793 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: how about some Papa John's pizza and we know why 794 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: it tastes so great. The ingredients like the veggie is 795 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: never frozen in the pepperoni one hour percent parking beat, 796 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: better ingredients, better pizza. Papa john You always tell us 797 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: that Papa John's is so good in it is so guys, 798 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: make sure you order your Papa Johns while you're looking 799 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: over these results from Rob's pool. Yes, it's an interesting 800 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: week this week. You got Jason, you got Larry Fitzgerald 801 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: on the other side. Couple of goats, A couple of goats. Yeah, 802 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: third and fourth all time in all time receiving yards 803 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: right now, no inception receptions right as it stands now, 804 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: Witten's getting there's right, but I don't think Fitzgerald's backing up. No, 805 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: but they're they very well. Both could be wearing gold 806 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: jackets when it's all said and done. So with your 807 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: stat that you had the other day. Jason Witten leading 808 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: the league in catches right now after two games, seventeen 809 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: is right, seventeen. I was curious, what's the most impressive 810 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: Witt and milestone to date? You've got four options, most 811 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: all time games played for Dallas, most starts consecutively in 812 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: Cowboys history, Cowboys receiving yards record that he recently got 813 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: from Michael Irvin, or the fact that you just mentioned 814 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: Micky's fourth all time in NFL catches. A lot of 815 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: good stats there, some of them team related, some of 816 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: them iron man related, and he's obviously in the league 817 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: record books too. I think the iron man related, Okay, 818 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: I think the fans will say the fact that he's 819 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: fourth all time in receptions, not on the Cowboys, in 820 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: the National Football League as a tight end, as a 821 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: tight end broad man. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go 822 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: with Taylor on this one. I think the consecutive game 823 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 1: streak is the thing. Most starts in a row, Those 824 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: starts in a row, well, we got one and two there. 825 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: Fifty five percent said fourth all time and catches in 826 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: league history, NFL history, followed by and the fans baby, 827 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: followed by moans and the fans market kent there you go. So, 828 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: so the Ironman streak or the consecutive starts with second 829 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: in the poll. You think about the position he plays. Yeah, 830 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: it's not like he's playing as a cornerback, where he's 831 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, half the time he's having to deal with 832 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: not having to be involved in the play. He's in 833 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: a high collision, high impact area. Not only is he 834 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: taking hits running routes and ket tro trying to catch 835 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 1: the ball, but he's also a block or the point 836 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: of attack. Think about people rolling up on him or 837 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: hitting him in the back or whatever like that. So 838 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: for him to survive those all these car rex that 839 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: he's had to survive for fifteen years is quite impressive. 840 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: His record did he break though? For that? Because that 841 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: was a defensive player, wasn't it said Jones? Was it 842 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: Ed Jones? Too tall? Yeah? Yeah, see the reason that 843 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 1: I went with the iron Man and it's same thing 844 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: for me. But that was a club record, right, But 845 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: it's still impressive. Oh it is. I'm not saying this 846 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, fourth all time in the National 847 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: Football League. Think of someone there's twenty five wide receivers 848 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame twenty five And what is 849 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: what is his best strength? Is his best trade? Well 850 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 1: late tight end? No, no, his okay, okay, complete tight end, Okay, 851 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: take that out of it. Everything, okay, what is okay? 852 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: What what will he be known for? Then? That he 853 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: ran a play without a helmet on, that he's a 854 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: he's a catcher, his hands, That's what he'll be known for. 855 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: To me. When he when he came out of college, 856 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: he always it was not the question wasn't going to 857 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: be about his ability to catch the football, right, I mean, 858 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: He's longevity has helped, but he learned to be a 859 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: complete tight end, no doubt about that, no doubt about it. 860 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: And he changed his game after they you know, got 861 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: a really powerful running game going. He kind of seeded 862 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: that responsibility. Sure, you know. I we're talking, we're arguing 863 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: about does Terrell Owens deserve to be in the National 864 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame? Does Randy Moss deserve to be? 865 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: This guy's got more catchers than both of them, and 866 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: they were wide receivers. But we're not we're not arguing 867 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: if he's going to be in the Hall of Fame 868 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: because now I know, you know, he's going to be 869 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: in there. But to me, that's what makes it so impressive. 870 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: He is an all around impressive guy. I mean, greatest 871 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: guy on this team. Thirty year, thirty plus years now, 872 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: he has been alive and just doing things. And if 873 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: you talk about you're talking about the receptions micking. I 874 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: think that goes hand in hand with the stat of 875 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: saying that he's had consecutive starts, because if you talk 876 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: to him and you know, I've had different talks like 877 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: how do you keep going? And he always comes back 878 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: to the words standard. I feel like that's a word 879 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: you'll always hear from Witten. He says, I just have 880 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: a high, high, high standard. He competes hard at practice. 881 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that he competes harding games. He goes for 882 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: it on every down. And so with that, obviously he's 883 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: become this great, complete tight end that you're talking about, 884 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: been able to get let me finish this, Oh, I 885 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: didn't know Taylor's minute. Sorry, all right, well I'm on 886 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: a Taylor's time out. Thank you though. But what I'm 887 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: what it is, what I'm saying is that they have 888 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: also and Brian you would know this. They've got to 889 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: draft guys that would eventually replace him, obviously, Anthony being 890 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: one of the guys they've tried, and he just doesn't 891 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: let up. He doesn't. And that's the thing about it is, 892 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 1: though the preparation and all that, there's no doubt which 893 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: one of the records or which one of the milestones 894 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: of the poll? Which one do you think he would 895 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: vote on? Starts two twenty five? I think always, I 896 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: think the iron man stuff always being there. That's the 897 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: standard grandsons. You can't grandson of a football coach who 898 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: instilled a lot of what you said in him. Always never, 899 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: And that's what his brother told me, is that one 900 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: of his biggest fears is he doesn't want to let 901 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: anybody down. I don't want to let anybody in this 902 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: building down, especially his teammates and his coaches. So what 903 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 1: was second? But this consecutive game, second consecutive starts? Where 904 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: does the two twenty five come in? That's most all 905 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: time game games played, And that's that's kind of iron man. 906 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: It's not a consecutive thing, but it was third, I think, 907 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: trailing behind those two. That would have been my second 908 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: pick two d and twenty five games. Yeah, but he's 909 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: he's not far below that in terms of consecutive start 910 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: total like it, well, that's like one hundred and sixty something, right, 911 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: something like that. But the last game he missed was 912 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I understand, you know, but if 913 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: you impress, if you're missing games, you're not getting to 914 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: two twenty five, is my point. That's a lot of games. 915 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: They're all impressive. That's the thing. We don't even need 916 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: to argue about Jason Witten because he is so wildly impressive, 917 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: so such a standard for this team. I mean, we're 918 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: talking about the Larry FitzGeralds of the world, who is 919 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: that way for the Arizona Cardinals, and so I think, 920 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, they both have immense respect for each other. 921 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: It's been interesting to hear Tony Gonzalez talk about Jason Witten. 922 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, these guys who are on the list that 923 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: Mickey is talking about, and just how he does it. 924 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, you have to say, when he's having 925 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: that standard and everything that just comes with it, I 926 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: don't think that he gets as excited about the touchdowns 927 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: and the receptions. I think those matter to him. But 928 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: when he was asked just two weeks ago about the 929 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin record that was also on there. Did that 930 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: come in forth? Yeah? I think it did. Let me 931 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: double check. It was third or fourth behind the two 932 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: twenty five? What was Michael's the yards, the most touchdowns, 933 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: most yards, most yards? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, uh most the 934 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: two twenty five games played twelve percent ten percent was 935 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: passing Irvin for for most receiving yards all time in 936 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys history. Cowboys history. But we're talking those the receptions, 937 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: we're talking NFL his sure, sure, and the only two 938 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: of the guys that are ahead of him, Larry Fitzgerald 939 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: is going to be on the field, sure. And Gonzalez 940 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: was the other one. I forgot who was number one? 941 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: I guess I should have remembered that. Huh. Who would 942 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: have been past him in the NFL? It was Jerry 943 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: Rice Ry, Thank you Ja filling me? Who would be 944 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: the most games played in the NFL in total? Right now? 945 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: I have to look that one up. A Penta, Well, 946 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be somebody like it's gonna be a kicker, 947 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, is what the in In that way, it's 948 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna be like I said, maybe Brady, I don't know. No, 949 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: some of these kickers have played no George Bland, somebody 950 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: like that is going to be in career game. Jim, 951 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 1: I meant active players. No, we're he was thinking about 952 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: the just all time. We're talking all time, all time. Yeah, yeah, 953 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's there's some guys like Jim More. 954 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean there's guys that have had some longivity and careers. 955 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: But you know, he again, he plays a high impact 956 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: collision position. Morton Anderson at three eighty two. There you go, 957 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: there you go, he's number one. Yeah, that's a lot 958 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of games left. Yeah, might as well give 959 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: up on that wood. Yeah. Yeah, German holding strong, like 960 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: ten more seasons. But you know, we're You just said it, 961 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,240 Speaker 1: Rob before you got in there. He's leading the league 962 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: right now, and Mickey the National Football League. He is 963 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: leading it with seventeen receptions, and that's pretty impressive when 964 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at guys around the league. The guy right 965 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: behind him is a Tony O'Bryant, and he's just he's 966 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: always been reliable for his quarterbacks. Tonio Brown, No, I'm 967 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: talking about oh all time? What do you? I'm sorry, 968 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm lost you here, heaving, Like what I'm saying is 969 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: that in these first two games Dak has always trusted him. 970 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,280 Speaker 1: That's probably why he's leading the league right now seventeen receptions. 971 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: Is Jason Witten through fifteen years has always been so 972 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: reliable for his quarterbacks. Got you. I mean the whole 973 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: narrative throughout the Tony Romo era was that he and 974 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: Jason Witten had this unbreakable bond. There you go. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 975 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: he's been He's been a safety blanket for Dak too. 976 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: The question is can they get the rest of the 977 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 1: offense going. And I'm sure he trade some of those 978 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: catches for a more efficient performance than they had in 979 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: Denver overall. Yeah, it was a Tonio Brown second. Yeah 980 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: right now, Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. Jason Witten just 981 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 1: the goat. Obviously gonna be in the Hall of Fame 982 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: one day. But we're gonna go to Twitter and we 983 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: have a few questions. If Lawrence continues his performance, how 984 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: will that affect the left defensive end spot after Irving returns. 985 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: That's interesting because I kind of think of I think 986 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: that they might play David Irving inside at tackle. Yeah. 987 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: You felt like the best games he played was playing tackle, 988 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: and he was playing tackle in Green Bay right where, Yes, 989 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: we had the Monster game, but he played he was 990 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: playing as as the left defensive ingiens Tampa if he 991 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 1: went off too. So yeah, but I think his best position, 992 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: I probably feel like they think his best position is 993 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: playing at defensive tackle. I think that's where he'll he'll 994 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,920 Speaker 1: go when when when he comes back in a couple 995 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: of weeks, because you know, we haven't seen him use 996 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: that three man front very much. No, but that was 997 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: one of his deals. That was what was it. Put 998 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: him over the nose and let him go a little guy, 999 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: right right, put him over the nose and let him roll. 1000 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. No, no, David, David Irving Irving, Yeah, David Irving. 1001 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: So he his suspension is not allowing him to be 1002 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: around here, not at all. No, he's got two more weeks. 1003 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: And that was the same as demandre Moors. No, he 1004 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: was allowed to be. He was allowed. Yeah, there's different 1005 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: with the performance enhancing things. So so was Demontre Moore 1006 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: allowed to be in meetings? No? No, no, but he 1007 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 1: could be bigger. Workout your workout? Yeah, it worked out. 1008 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: Eat breakfast yeah, eat breakfast with no. Oh that's right, Nickie. 1009 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: Did you assume him again today at all? Oh, I 1010 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: did not. No, Now, the other guy that everyone's going 1011 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: to be watching in this game, obviously it would have 1012 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: been David Johnson versus Zekiel Elliott. Who's going to have 1013 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: the better game. But with David Johnson out, Ezekiel at 1014 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 1: looking to have a comeback game? Do you guys think 1015 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: that he will? Obviously? Does it depend on this week's practice. 1016 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: What are the keys for him to have a good 1017 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals? Well, number one, don't fall behind 1018 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: by twenty five points. Yeah, that's gonna be on the team. 1019 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: I think Denver did a nice job offensively Denver's Denver's 1020 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: offense took Dallas out of their running game. I don't 1021 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 1: think it was their I don't think it was their defense. 1022 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: It was their Their offense clearly took him out of 1023 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 1: the right Now. They did some things defensively. Arizona could 1024 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: present some of the similar problems that Denver had with 1025 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: when it comes to playing defense. They've got a shut 1026 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: down corner, they've got linebackers that can run, They've got 1027 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: size inside, and you know, if you don't, if you 1028 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: don't match up with them, hats on hats, they can 1029 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: get to the football and finished plays. This is one 1030 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: of the better teams in the league when it comes 1031 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: to u when not allowing run after catch, you know, 1032 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: and so if you if you don't know, if you're 1033 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: one of those teams that don't allow run after catch, 1034 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: then your team that tackles well. And I think that's 1035 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: where Arizona can can can hurt hurt Dallas a little bit. 1036 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: They've got these hybrid strong safety linebacker guys that get 1037 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: to the football in a hurry and can and can 1038 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: shut you down that way. I do wonder do they 1039 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,479 Speaker 1: make more of a commitment to get him established early 1040 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: Zeke in this game because they didn't run it well. 1041 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: He had nine nine yards on eight carries, but they 1042 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,399 Speaker 1: did throw the ball ten times out of the first 1043 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: four team plays. So do you make a consider consider 1044 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: effort to get him rolling early. We'll see, Because you 1045 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: know they stacked the box fine, I mean they against 1046 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: eight man fronts all last season. It's not really new 1047 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: what the Broncos did. They just didn't execute. The biggest 1048 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: concern I talked about it yesterday or then when we 1049 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: broke down the game was the fact they got into 1050 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: alve personnel and couldn't run the football. Yeah, that's when 1051 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: you get in twelve personnel, that means you're playing with 1052 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: two tight ends. That means you're bringing guys into the box. Now, 1053 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: maybe we will see him this week say you know what, 1054 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: we'll play more eleven personnel and try and run it 1055 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: that way where you play with three wide receivers and 1056 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: went back spread them out. But they tried that, and 1057 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 1: Denver said, you know what, if this is, we're still 1058 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 1: going to play that passing down. We're playing our plays defense. 1059 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 1: We'll leave our linebackers in there. So now be interested 1060 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: if Arizona matches propability to do that right, because they 1061 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: had the ability to stop the run that way and 1062 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: hold up in the passing game. YEP, so absolutely. I 1063 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: liked Rob's tweet today about what Bruce Arian said when 1064 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: asked about the awesome blueprint that Mickey loves to talk 1065 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: about the blueprint. What did Bruce Arians say to that 1066 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 1: when he was asked, are they going to follow the 1067 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos plan to beat the Dallas Coutboys. He said, yeah, 1068 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: if we can borrow Denver's players, which is pretty good. 1069 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: And that's kind of speaks to what we've talked about 1070 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: is Denver has really elite personnel, and a big reason 1071 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: Brian's talked about it. It's the it's their corners on 1072 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: the outs side. They were allowed they're so good they 1073 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: can leave them on an island and focus everything else 1074 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: on everybody else on your offense. If they If Dallas 1075 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,240 Speaker 1: continues not to win on the outside, it doesn't matter 1076 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: how many people they put in the box. I mean, 1077 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: they're not going to run the football. They've got to 1078 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: find a way to get guys open on the outside. 1079 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 1: Now is that is that on the players? Yeah? Is 1080 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: it on the coaches? Absolutely? You know, Let's see if 1081 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: they do some things differently. Let's see if they create opportunity, bunch, formations, 1082 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: motion whatever. It's stuff that we don't normally see. Mickey 1083 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: and Edward talking about pick routes, rub routes, whatever you 1084 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: want to do. If somebody's gonna play man coverage against me, 1085 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find ways to try and get my guys open. 1086 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: And we'll see if if in fact it, Scotland, Ahan 1087 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: and them come out and say, Okay, this is what 1088 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. This is how we're going to attack them. 1089 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: And you know they've they've had some struggles in past 1090 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: coverage you know, they've they've given up their shared through 1091 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: the first two games where they haven't been really as 1092 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: great on second down, they haven't been really good on 1093 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: third down. He's been a little self deprecating. He knows 1094 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,280 Speaker 1: he's got a good deal, he's got a good defense. 1095 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: He does. But as an offense, we talk about, hey, 1096 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: how do you run the football? How do you this 1097 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: offensive line? The running back receives. If the guys don't 1098 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 1: execute on that end, then it doesn't matter what you do. 1099 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: Say they got it. You gotta find ways and when 1100 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: you when you know, you say they didn't run the ball. 1101 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: Early first play of the game, they threw Zeke a 1102 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: little dump pass right four yards. It's four yards, second 1103 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: and six, handoff to Zeke zero, third and six. What 1104 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: are you doing? Probably throwing the ball right hits Whitton 1105 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: over the middle. If I remember when I went back 1106 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 1: and watched it, the dB came off of his guy 1107 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,799 Speaker 1: to make the tackle because Whitton. If Whitton had kept 1108 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: going where he was going right, he had open field. 1109 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: But he did his little cutback. Wasn't expecting that dB 1110 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: to come off his guy stops him one yards short. 1111 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: Second time they get the ball, throws the Dez oh 1112 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 1: and Dez caught a pass twelve yards right by the 1113 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: way first and ten to Beasley for six. Second and four. 1114 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: Zeke cuts back three, third and one Chaz greenfall starts. 1115 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: That would have been another run. Right now it's third 1116 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 1: and six. What are you doing? You're throwing the ball. 1117 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: Then they got into that possession where the game got 1118 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: delayed right right, And I think they were second and 1119 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: ten at the forty six when the game got delayed 1120 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: and they tried some fancy fake screen or whatever. It 1121 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: didn't work. And now it's third and ten, right, you're 1122 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: not running the ball, and they at the end of 1123 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,439 Speaker 1: the half, they got into a two minute situation two 1124 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: where they threw it like that's what I'm saying. I 1125 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: think Denver, I think next time he touches the ball 1126 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: was on the goal line, sure, first and goal to three. 1127 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: He got zero, right, and then they scored Denver. Denver's 1128 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: offense had a big hand in how that that game went. 1129 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: And now they didn't get the ball back forever. Yeah, well, 1130 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: we'll have the ball back tomorrow. When you were on 1131 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys for our Friday show, we've already hinted that 1132 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about inactives, and we are at 1133 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: eleven thirty am Central time. Join us then. 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