WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: The Lift 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:15.520 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.280 is Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And is this 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.080 our first killer appliance movie? I sure think so. The 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.240 only thing that I was thinking could possibly compete with 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.080 it is when we did Chopping Mall, which is about 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.159 some some like security robots in a shopping mall that 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.120 go mad and try to murder a bunch of party teens. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.360 But I think this may well be our first, our 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.520 first film more in the in the zone of consumer 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:46.519 or or domestic appliances that go hay wire and seek blood. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.920 I think you're probably right. The only other film that 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.000 we've looked at on Weird How Cinema that comes close 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.000 would be Ghost in the Machine, which wasn't about like 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.640 the appliances or the or the or any kind of 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.880 AI going going hey wire. It was about like a 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.080 spirit uh, an entity of mind possessing all of these things. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.520 And and that is the thing that causes say, a 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:13.720 microwave to malfunction and microwave an entire room. Oh yeah, 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.880 it's a serial killer whose brain gets sucked into the 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.400 telephone wires and then it can inhabit any machine. But 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.840 but but oh yeah, yeah, okay, so that's a good point. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.360 That is kind of a killer appliance movie. But I 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.040 think you have to break killer appliance horror movies down 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:32.400 into two very distinct camps. There is one in which 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.880 multiple appliances can be commondered by an evil spirit, or 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.559 multiple appliances are attacking, so goes to the machine would 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.520 be one. Maximum overdrive is another one. I think there's 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.720 some alien force in that that turns I think maximum 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.640 overdrive should be our terminology for a full blown all 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.880 appliances attack, all human scenario, right exactly. Yes, So so 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.600 that's like all your soda machines, all your hair dryers, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.800 they're they're all on the attack. But the other camp 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.880 is the movie in which there is a single appliance 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.520 or machine or an animate object that seeks human blood. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.480 And there are your examples would be something like Deathbed, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.359 the bed that eats people, or or the movie we're 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.280 gonna be talking about today, the Lift from nineteen eighty three, 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.760 a Dutch killer elevator movie. And based on what I've 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.320 been able to determine, I think this may be the 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:32.920 first real killer elevator movie that that either inspired other 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.920 elevate killer elevator movies or at least beat them to 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.840 the punch. Are there really other killer elevator movies? I 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.400 feel like I looked up a list of elevator horror movies, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.799 but they're just like they just take place in an 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.520 elevator or feature an elevator. Um. I mean, I don't know. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.640 I guess some of these would would would require getting 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.640 to the like the spoiler point to find out is 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.320 this an elevator or is there is there like an 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.320 evil psychopath controlling the elevator. I don't know what the 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.760 you know, the particular twist is going to be, but 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:06.280 this is definitely a killer elevator movie. Uh, absolutely to 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.560 its core. Oh wait, I just remembered something. I don't 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.760 know if you did. You ever see Speed, you know, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.160 the nineties Kiana Reeves Sandra, Yeah, that begins with a 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.320 and it's sort of a killer elevator scenario. The elevator 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.800 has been hijacked by Dennis Hopper and it smashes An 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.799 Esteves right before he waited. An Estevez does no, no, no, 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:28.600 you're there. You're confusing it with the nineteen nineties Mission 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.160 Impossible movie. And there that's an elevator that I don't 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.120 know if, I don't know if there's a psychopath behind it, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:38.080 but that John goes haywire and it smashes an Estevez. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.960 Are you telling me an Estevez is not smashed in Speed? Uh? No, 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.400 I think someone is killed, but it's no. The problem 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:50.160 in Speed is that Dennis Hopper commandeers an elevator. Okay, anyway, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.360 he it's his it's his trial run of the bus plan. Basically, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.200 he puts a bunch of bombs on an elevator and 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.720 he okay, and it does not kill. No, I don't 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.960 think there is an Esteves in Bead. Okay. There's Jeff 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:07.119 Daniels in Speed? Is there? Yeah? Okay? Man, it's Keanu 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.640 and Jeff Daniels or the cops um and and Sandra 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.960 Bullock is the bus passenger who ends up driving. Okay, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.600 it's been a while since I've seen I've clearly fused 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.600 it together with at least two other films. Well, we're 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.159 off to a great start here. But okay, let's just 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:23.960 name some other movies you can think of that have 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.000 elevator scenes. And well, I mean that's That's one of 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.000 the things about elevators. I think they're an interesting subject 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:34.680 for a film like like this because there's something about elevators, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.080 uh that resonate with us. You think of all the 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.760 various elevator scenes in various films, and sometimes it's an 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.119 action centerpiece, other times it's just a situation. Very often 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.640 was just a place for two characters to have a 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:51.440 conversation between scenes, but they're often very memorable. Like just 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.160 I was thinking, like, off the top of my head, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.320 what are some of the key elevator scenes I think of. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.920 I think of Big Trouble and Little China. Uh, they're 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.840 not they're basically just standing around in there. But it's 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.479 a great scene. Um, I'm kind of feeling good. Yeah, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.120 it's a wonderful, wonderful scene, even though they're just they're 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.680 just using it like normal people us an elevator as 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.839 a way. Well. Actually, there are multiple elevator scenes in 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.200 that movie that are great because there's a flooding elevator 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:18.000 they have to escape. Yeah, but then you have you 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.760 have some real action centerpieces, uh, particularly in two different 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.599 James Cameron films. You've got aliens and you've got Terminator 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.880 to both of which involved people flinging into an elevator 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:33.880 and then a superpowered uh enemy prying the elevator open, 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.520 only to be blasted with a shotgun. What do you know? 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.640 You're right? Yes, so in one case it's Robert Patrick 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.080 as the liquid metal and then the other case is 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.599 just an alien warrior. Yeah. And I don't think until today, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.800 I'd ever put it together that those two scenes are 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.240 essentially the same scene. Uh, but they're both great. Other 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.280 key elevator scenes that come to mind. I mean, you've 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.440 got like the shining with the blood flowing out of it. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.479 You've got that wonderful switchero that takes place in the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.359 Silence the Lambs. Uh, there's a really bloody reveal in 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.720 the Untouchables from Brian to Palma. Uh. So those are 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.159 just some of the ones that come to mind. Like, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.240 there's something about the elevator that just works great for theater. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.599 It has its own curtains that open and close. Um, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.640 it goes up and down, it smashes that you can 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.200 climb on top of it. Their cables up there, Like 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.840 we're just obsessed with the elevator. Oh yeah, yeah, Well, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.680 I mean the fact that the elevator doors open in 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.039 the same way that curtains open. Like you say, I 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:32.040 think that has a natural revelatory quality that that calls 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.800 to mind sort of an unveiling, because there are a 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.200 lot of scenes in movies, even beyond what you mentioned, 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.240 where elevator doors peel back to reveal a scene that 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.239 shocks someone who's there waiting for the elevator to arrive. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.240 So like and die Hard too, you know, there's a 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.320 there's a scene like that, and The Lift, of the 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.200 movie we're gonna talk about today, I would say has 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.719 at least five scenes where we don't immediately see what's 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.760 in the elevator, but we see the doors open, and 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.320 then someone is there waiting for the elevator and they 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.080 react with horror to whatever they see inside. You know, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.160 they react like they're looking at the security footage from 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.880 event Horizon. Yeah, and uh, you know what is we'll 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.840 get into. I think, you know, you you might well 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.000 go into a movie like The Lift and think, all right, um, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.160 elevators work well, like a small dose here and there, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:21.880 maybe a couple of elevator scenes in the film, But 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.800 if you build an entire movie based on the elevator. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.920 Are you going to be able to maintain that level 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.720 of interest in the elevator? You can be able to 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.000 define all these interesting ways to use it. And I 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.040 think the answer is yes. I think this movie pulls 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.120 it off well yeah, and I think it partially does 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.080 so by having a sense of humor. I mean, one 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.200 thing I was kind of surprised by was the trailer 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.960 made me think that this movie would be uh dryer, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.600 and that more of the absurdity of it would just 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:54.840 kind of flow out of an understated realization of its 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.480 absurd core premise. But in fact, this is a fairly 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.440 juicy camp e move v. It's it's more along the 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.360 lines of chopping Mall or something like that. I can 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.920 only suspect that this is even more the case if 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.840 one is um he's watching it in the original language, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.920 because I watched it dubbed into English and this was 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.360 the only option available to me, and the dub is 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.320 very good. But the dub is also like, I feel 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.200 like I've heard these same dub voices before in some cases, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.760 you know, it feels like the same sort of American 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.120 dub you'd get on any number of Italian films from 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.520 the same time period. Oh, but I absolutely loved the 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.000 dub because some of the casting, or at least I 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.160 don't know if it was like that they just cast 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.160 people who sound this way, or if they made conscious 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.640 choices to deliver their lines in this hilarious manner. But 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:43.920 for example, the detective in The Who, his English dubbed 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.880 voice sounds like somebody doing audio book tracks for an 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.120 Encyclopedia Britannica. So there's like a when we first meet him, 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.000 he's talking about why he doesn't like elevators. He says, 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.360 I prefer the stairs suffer from claustrophobia. That's why I 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.760 became a leaseman. Would much rather put others in cells 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:08.000 than wind up myself in prison. Yeah, yeah, it's the 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.560 dub is very enjoyable. But I think that dubbing in general, uh, 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.720 it kind of it lends itself to a sort of 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.400 dry humor at times. You know, yes, um, so I 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.640 can only imagine what the original language of this would 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.160 have would have felt like if if one is a 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.520 you know, an actual Dutch viewer of the film, and yeah, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.720 I should I should drive that home. This is uh, 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.640 I think our first Dutch movie that we've looked at 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.040 on Weird House Cinema. Though we have discussed films with 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.920 that have involved Dutch directors. We've also of course discussed 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.600 Dutch actors Rugger Howard as of course probably the most 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:48.080 famous Dutch actor of of of the twentieth century and beyond. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.240 And then also I'm pretty sure that Hawaiian Werewolf movie 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.880 we watched had Dutch subtitles, because that's where we got 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.320 work beast. Yes, that the version that we found on 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.240 YouTube had Dutch titles. Um though it was itself not 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.400 a Dutch film, but that but that was another foray 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:10.040 into the Dutch world on this this podcast. I apologize 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.080 I interrupted your flow though what was What was the 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.440 other thing you were going to say? Oh? I was 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.480 just gonna reiterate that their first true killer appliance movie. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.959 Oh okay, Yeah, absolutely. I would say that chopping Mall 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.720 does not count. Ghost in the Machine does not count 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.720 because ghost in the Machine is more in the maximum 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.439 overdrive vein chopping Mall. Those are killer robots anyway, they 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:35.239 just started attacking the wrong people. Now, sometimes killer appliance 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.640 movies And when I say appliance, I'm going to use 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.040 that very broadly to apply to everything from a bad 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.080 to an elevator. Um. But a lot of times it 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.200 is something like a bad something that you don't think 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.160 of is being dangerous at all. But I think the 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.640 elevator is a very interesting pick because for it's an 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:55.000 amazing technological advancement um and one that you know, it's 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.760 like all in like all technological inventions, you know, you 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.600 had maybe rocky or start at times, but you know, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.200 for the most part, I don't think I really hesitate 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.520 when I board an elevator, or at least that wasn't 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.760 the case in pre pandemic times. I might think about 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.400 that more now, like how many people are going to 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.960 be on this, are they masked? Etcetera. But generally I 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.880 have a lot of compidence in the technology and the 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:20.920 regulation surrounding that technology. And yet at the same time 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.520 I know that I have these on and off dreams 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.880 about boarding strange elevators that are in varying stages of disrepair. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:34.360 So I feel like underneath the surface of of my consciousness, uh, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.400 there are a lot of more complicated thoughts about the 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.680 elevator and what the elevator is capable of. Oh, it 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.080 sounds like you're a kindred Soul with the Inspector in 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:46.120 this film. Well, but that's the thing I'm not I'm 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.400 not afraid of elevators at all. I'm perfectly comfortable getting 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.520 on and I just have the dreams where you inhabit 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.720 his frame of mind, right, which makes me me think 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.520 that you know, with all of us, and part of 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.320 it probably comes from movies, right, I mean, we we 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.880 ride of elevators, and for the most part, I think 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.680 we're you know, most of us out there probably don't 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.440 encounter much in the way of mishaps involving elevators. Um 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.320 though I could see where that would that would certainly 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:15.120 impact your appreciation of the technology if if it happened 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.440 that way. But otherwise, we're watching all these movies, and 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.320 in movies, elevators very often get stuck and people have 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.440 to climb through them and on top of them, or 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.800 they plummet, etcetera. And in this movie, elevators will do 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.680 all of those things. Yes, yes, and well, But another 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.880 thing is that I can't tell how much of the 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.439 weirdness of the way elevators are treated in this movie 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.439 is due to this being a movie from the early eighties. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.080 In the Netherlands, or if it's just like weird about elevators, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.280 because the characters in this movie talk about elevators like 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.760 they are a kind of new and dangerous thing, and 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.480 I don't think they were particularly new or dangerous in 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.360 in the Netherlands in the nineteen eighties. Is I don't know? 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.160 It could be wrong. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't get 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.439 a chance to really research that. But there there's at 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.319 least a time or two where a character makes a 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.600 seemingly outrageous claim about elevator safety at the time. Um, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.560 I mean, I'm happy to be corrected on the matter. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.200 But we'll discuss that in a bit. There's some scene 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.800 we're like, they're like, did you know that seven million 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:19.800 people are decapitated by elevators? Everyone? Yeah, it's it's almost 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.439 that ridiculous. I have it in the notes, So goog. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.840 We'll get to that stat But first, Joe, would you 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.000 would would you go ahead and give us an elevator 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.600 pitch for this elevator movie. Oh, I think here's one 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.320 where we were obligated to say pun not intended. But 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.559 when an elevator in a Dutch tower building starts attacking 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.480 and killing random people, it is up to intrepid elevator 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:46.400 repairman Felix Adler to debug the death lift. All right, well, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:52.280 let's go ahead and listen to that trailer. Inside this 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:59.880 vertical city, a machine has come to life, a machine 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:15.360 with a terrible secret wash. Modern technology gave burn to 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:22.920 the lift, but the lip has made itself smarter, stronger, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:39.800 and deadly. Earn, take the stairs, Take the stairs, for 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:52.280 God's sake, Take the stairs now. I don't know if 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.480 the audio we just featured included the tagline, but if not, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.960 it is take the stairs, Take the stairs, for God's say, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:05.040 Take the stairs. Excellent classic heart you know is it's 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:10.560 very don't awesome? Yeah? I have to admit I usually 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.760 watched the trailer for a film before I view it, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.480 but in this case, I just, uh, you know, you 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.600 you you were you were convinced that this was a 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.240 movie to watch. I looked at the IMDb listing for it. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.320 I said, let's do it. But I went ahead and 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.800 skipped watching the trailer completely so I could go into it, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.120 uh you know, rather fresh. Well, sometimes it's good to 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.160 go into fresh, but in this case, I just say, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:42.600 you know what, watch the trailer now. I guess to 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.720 talk about the real creative forces behind the lift. Uh. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.560 Number one has got to be Old Dick Moss. That's right, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.480 Dick Moss. Uh the last name spelled m A A 0:15:54.880 --> 0:16:00.280 S director, writer and also compose the music on this film, uh, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.200 which which I have to say is I thought was 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.640 rather pleasant. It's a nice atmospheric electronic score. Um, you know, 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.360 nothing that I need to seek out on vinyl necessarily, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.800 but but but I thought it was solid and did 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.200 its job well. Uh. No acoustic instruments to get your 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.280 hackles up right right, No, no stirring piano pieces. Uh. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.320 So I say, good, good job. Dick Moss. Now Dick Moss, 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:28.040 Uh yeah, Dutch film director, screenwriter, film producer and film 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.600 composer who has produced quite a filmography of TV and 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.800 screen credits between nine and two thousand sixteen. His first 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.000 feature was a comedy called Rigor Mortis in one, and 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.640 this film from eight three was the follow up, and 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.480 it was apparently something of a hit, at least in 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.360 the long run, earning sort of a B movie following 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.840 over time. It's it's listed in the Psychotronic Video Guide 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.160 and allegedly Dick Moss was offered the chance to direct 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.280 both a Nightmare on Elm Street movie after this, as 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.520 well as a Gean Claude van Dam film. One assumes 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.400 that these are two separate films and not the same film, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.800 but any rate, he declined and instead went on to 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.560 make the Dutch action flick Amster Damned instead, a film 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.800 that I haven't seen but was already familiar with due 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.960 to it's um it's following. And of course that's just 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.680 ridiculous title that was so well chosen. Having seen the lift, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.760 I would love to see what his Nightmare on Elm 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.880 Street movie would have been like, Yeah, I mean I can, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.359 I can, I can see it, I can see it. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.840 Where would you have if you could, you could put 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.800 him in there, put him in the mix? Where which 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.400 which director would you take out? And uh and slot 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.879 Dick mosson. Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.880 I might replace part five the dream Child. That one's 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:47.960 not a lot of fun, okay. And do you think 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.879 you could also fit Jean Claud van Damm in there 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.720 as well? Yes, Jean Claude Vandam would play let's see, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:58.800 he would play Freddie Krueger's twin brother. Uh No, no 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.119 explanation on that will just you know, put him in 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:06.320 another sweater. It'll work. Okay, sounds go alright. Dick Moss 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.359 also had a lot of success with the Flatterer comedy series, 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.880 which I'm to understand is kind of a politically incorrect 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:16.600 satire series that was controversial at the time but also 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.480 generated a big following. And while his comedy seem more 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.280 aimed at a Dutch audience, his action in horror films 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.280 seemed to have a broader aim in mind, and he 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.080 eventually made a few films with more American star power, 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:34.800 which includes Do Not Disturb starring William Hurt, Jennifer Tilley, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.600 Michael Chiklis, and Dennis Leary. Weird okay, and he of 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.320 course also helmed an American remake of this movie, The 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.119 Lift in two thousand and one, a film titled either 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.119 Down or The Shaft, depending on where you're acquiring it 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.119 where where you might have seen it? Um it is. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.880 So it's not a film that I've watched in its entirety, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.800 but I I signed up for the full Moon Channel 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.600 to watch The Lift, and uh, the remake is also 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.879 on the full Moon Channel, so I I watched a 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.159 little of it and skipped around, and it's not a 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.919 it's not in an it's not in its entirety a 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.000 shot for shot remake, but sections of it are definitely 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.640 seemed to be a shot for shot remake with say 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:23.000 c g I assisted effects instead of practical effects. Oh bummer. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.719 Though I'm sure that is safer, there's there so I Uh. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.560 The main reading about the production I did was on IMDb, 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.320 which has, you know, some users submitted content. You can't 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.439 always be sure about that, but it does sound like 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.359 some of the some of the effects may have had 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.640 people a little bit worried while they were shooting them, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.080 like at least at some point. It is alleged that 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.800 they filmed the scene where a guy gets decapitated by 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.960 an elevator by actually sort of putting a guy's head 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.800 under an elevator, but they did in reverse. Uh So 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.080 I don't know that is a that is a legitimately 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.000 horrifying scene, and I and I will say it is 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:03.040 horrifying in BO the remake UM and the original. Even 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.280 though I'm going to lean towards the practical effects versus 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.520 the c G I, I still have to have to 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.360 say it's it's pretty hard fine to watch in both cases. Well, 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.399 I guess I'd say my preferences. Yes, I always prefer 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.520 practical effects pretty much. They look better. But you can 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.720 do you can build like a fake elevator that has 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.040 no weight, you know, right, But I think that probably 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.919 wasn't within the budget of what right. I definitely like 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.720 knowing that nobody almost got actually decapitated in a film 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.840 that I'm watching. UM now that that update. That two 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:37.280 thou one Uh remake also had a pretty great cast. 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.240 It had Naomi Watts. This is Naomi Watts pre Mulholland Drive. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.640 By the way, UM featured a villainous role played by 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.960 Michael Ironside, who is of course always tremendous. You have 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.360 Ron Pearlman in there, Edward Herman and Dan hideya oh. 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.160 And also this is funny. The main character in the remake, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.560 by the way, I did not know that that this 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:03.240 guy remade the Lift for American audiences when I picked 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:06.199 this movie. But the main character in the remake is 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:11.040 James Marshall, who was the biker boy in Twin Peaks 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.120 and he he was also one of the kids in 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.000 what's it called A Few Good Men. He's the kind 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:22.920 of not too bright of the two accused. Well, um, yeah, 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:27.880 I barely remember that that film, but I'll tell you this, Uh, 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:32.080 it's not really weird. How cinema material? Yeah yeah, I 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:39.480 love a good sanctimonious courtroom drama. Uh at any rate. Um, 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.800 it looks like the remake is is enjoyable on its 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.000 own terms as well. Um, but but it it is 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.680 definitely you definitely get that American eye sense, like from 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.639 the get go. There are more curse words. Uh, there's 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.760 there's more nudity. Uh. And and there's also a bazooka 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.639 and an Aerosmith song in there. An Aerosmith song? Which song? 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.320 Oh you know which song? It's an elevator movie, which 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.639 which one? Are they going to put it? Oh? Of course? Okay, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.960 I was thinking maybe don't want to miss a thing. No, 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.359 this is playing as the guy gets decapitated by an elevator. 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.880 I think it's the club. I think it's the credit song. 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:19.640 Actually all right, well, Moss was He was not done there. 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.800 Dick Moss also went on to direct the two thousand 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:26.320 ten film scent Or. I think it's sometimes released as 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.119 The Saint, and this was his return to the horror genre. 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.600 It is a film about a killer Satanic uh center 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:37.199 clause figure a um like a like an evil punishing 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.040 Dutch Santa Clause, which was something of a hit at 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:44.200 the time. Apparently it was kind of controversial but had 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.640 been garnered an audience like I think I've been noticing 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.280 the box for this film at video Drome for many years, 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:53.200