WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Shogun Assassin

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you welcome to Weird House Cinema rewind. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Lamb, and today we have an episode that originally

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<v Speaker 1>published twelve six, twenty twenty four. It is our discussion

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<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen eighty Grindhouse mainstay Shogun Assassin. This, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is a Western release compiled from the first two Lone

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf and Cub films. It's so much fun, so just

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<v Speaker 1>sizzling action and hasn't really captivating electronics score, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>jump right into this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 3>today we're going to be talking about a film from

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<v Speaker 3>the your nineteen eighty the blood drenched samurai film, Shogun Assassin. Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>this was your pick. How did you get to Showgun Assassin?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Mainly because I had subscribed to Criterion Channel in

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<v Speaker 1>order to watch Face behind the Mask for a previous episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have all these little collections in their little

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<v Speaker 1>playlists of movies to check out, and they had one

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<v Speaker 1>that was just called synth Scores, So of course I

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<v Speaker 1>had to dive in and see what kind of movies

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<v Speaker 1>they had included there, and they included one film that

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard of but I'd never seen, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>Showgun Assassin. And so I started playing it like I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was eating lunch by myself at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was one of those films where before I

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<v Speaker 1>knew what had happened, I'd watched most of the film,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I had other things I really needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do that day, but I was already like sucked

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<v Speaker 1>into it. It's just if you've never seen it, I

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<v Speaker 1>highly recommend diving in as well, because I think it

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<v Speaker 1>will captivate most people who watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is incredible in many ways, and I can see

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<v Speaker 3>why it would be classified primarily in terms of its soundtrack,

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<v Speaker 3>because the music in this movie just it washes over

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<v Speaker 3>you like a like a dark rainbow. It's just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm really excited to talk about it here today.

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<v Speaker 1>I made sure to open up a can of my

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<v Speaker 1>Sun Tory Boss coffee here. I'll show it to you. Hear,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe did not buy it from a convenience machine on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of Japan. This one is just from Super

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<v Speaker 1>h Mark. But they're not sponsoring this episode, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will be drinking my sun Tory Boss coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what is that just coffee or is it some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of coffee?

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, it's just a coffee, it's inexpensive, like col Brew

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<v Speaker 1>black coffee in a can, nice with a fun lytle

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<v Speaker 1>logo on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have to try that one sometime. But oh so,

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<v Speaker 3>Chokin Assassin is a movie that I think we've done

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<v Speaker 3>films of this kind before, though I can't think at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment what they were. But this is a movie

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<v Speaker 3>that is not an original artistic product, but rather is

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<v Speaker 3>made out of other products that already existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've talked about pictures on the show before that

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<v Speaker 1>exist in different, sometimes drastically different cuts. We recently did

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<v Speaker 1>that with Reptilicus. But yet today's episode is an extreme

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<v Speaker 1>case of something like this. Nineteen eighties Shogun Assassin is

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<v Speaker 1>a Western film release edited together from the first two

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<v Speaker 1>films in the famous Japanese Lone Wolf and Cub series,

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<v Speaker 1>those two films being both nineteen seventy two releases Lone

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf and Cubs sort of Vengeance the first of six films,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lone Wolf and Cub Baby cart at the River Styx,

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<v Speaker 1>the second of six films. Warning that you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these film titles. The translation is maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little rough, but that's part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of its chime.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially, the American filmmakers involved here set out to

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<v Speaker 1>take the best parts from these two films and stitch

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<v Speaker 1>them together into a single coherent narrative featuring the best action,

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest visuals, and all of this built around a

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<v Speaker 1>rather simplified plot. I'll describe the ways that they simplified

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<v Speaker 1>the plots a little bit as we proceed, but in essence,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just repackaging these two films for the grindhouse market.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say this movie is very loosely plotted. You

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<v Speaker 3>barely need to follow what's going on with the plot

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<v Speaker 3>or the machinations. It is more like a demo reel

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<v Speaker 3>of sights and sounds, and those sites are samurai action

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<v Speaker 3>with blood jets squirting, and the sounds are the dark

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<v Speaker 3>synth stylings of our composers who will get to later.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the plot is greatly reduced here, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>way it also makes it super fun to then dive

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<v Speaker 1>into the full cuts of those first two Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>and Cub films, which is exactly what I did after

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<v Speaker 1>watching Shogun Assassin. All of the Lone Wolf and Cub

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<v Speaker 1>films are available on a Criterion channel as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a this recording.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm curious how significantly different is the mood.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the mood is pretty much the same. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the really glorious thing about Showgun Assassin

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's easy to imagine all the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>a project like this could go spectacularly wrong, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it could be disrespectful to the original pictures. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that the essential vibe is there. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go from Showgun Assassin and you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like more of this, well, the Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>and Cub series is more of this, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, the full plot, the full character

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<v Speaker 1>development of everything that is in Showgun Assassin that you love,

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<v Speaker 1>except for the score, a different score, but still effective

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<v Speaker 1>scores in the original pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>So regarding not the original films, but Showgun Assassin specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>I've read this movie is esthetic described in terms like

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<v Speaker 3>poetic exploitation violence, and I think that's a good way

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<v Speaker 3>to put it, because this movie feels like it has

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<v Speaker 3>two souls at once. It is at once a work

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<v Speaker 3>of art and a piece of trashy grindhouse gore. So

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<v Speaker 3>on one hand, there really is a kind of poignant,

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<v Speaker 3>almost literary quality to the way details are observed in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of scenes. Just one scene of many that

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind is when the young boy is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to bring water from the river to his badly wounded father,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's trying to carry it in his hands and

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<v Speaker 3>it keeps leaking out between his fingers, so he eventually

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<v Speaker 3>carries the water in his mouth to his father. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like an almost kind of beautiful novelistic detail. And

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<v Speaker 3>also in terms of style, there is a quite exquisite

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<v Speaker 3>vision at play with the composition of the shots and

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<v Speaker 3>very again memorable details strong misancen But at the same

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<v Speaker 3>time there is a campy Tom Savini Friday the Thirteenth

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<v Speaker 3>sensibility operating in quite high gear in most of the

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<v Speaker 3>action scenes, with like a real desire to just see

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<v Speaker 3>blood squirting and to get the camera all up in

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<v Speaker 3>the ridiculous wounds, the cloven heads and all that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's an interesting combination. It's like some gore geek exploitation

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<v Speaker 3>trash and a thoughtful, meditative, historical art film about a

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<v Speaker 3>samurai father and son were merged into one entity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the arterial sprays and there are quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few of them, will make your jaw drop and exclaim aloud.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, yeah, there are such beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>poetic scenes in this picture. Like I cried. I teared

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<v Speaker 1>up at times, you know, I shed tears just to

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<v Speaker 1>Showgun Assassin. So it is both things at once. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, especially with the music. The music is a Digors theme,

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<v Speaker 3>especially that one was it was making me a little misty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is a strong track. We'll come back to

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<v Speaker 1>that one for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing thing I promise not to do in this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is to painstakingly talk about all the differences between

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<v Speaker 1>Shogun Assassin and the first two Lone Wolf and Cub movies.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back to some of these details in a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but just in broad strokes, I do want to mention

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<v Speaker 1>that clips from the first film, sort of Vengeance, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>amount to only like twelve minutes of Shogun Assassin, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the backstory of Lone Wolf and Cup of

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<v Speaker 1>our ronan character and the child.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, but that's a lot of what the movie is.

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<v Speaker 3>I would bet that when people watch this movie and

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<v Speaker 3>then think back on it and reminisce about it, the

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<v Speaker 3>primary thing they probably remember is the feeling created by

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<v Speaker 3>the opening five minutes or so. Not that the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the movie isn't good, but that is the feeling

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<v Speaker 3>of this movie is really established strongly at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>again powerfully moody, with this strong synth based melody that

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<v Speaker 3>plays under Diegoro's the child. The child's narration as he

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<v Speaker 3>describes the backstory, and we see these scenes very rapidly

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<v Speaker 3>cut together. They condense a lot of story into not

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<v Speaker 3>much space, but it's quite effective in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that narration by the child is quite excellent, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is something that is original to Shogun Assassin. There

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<v Speaker 1>is not something like that in the Lone Wolf and

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<v Speaker 1>Cub movies. We don't really have his insight or reflection

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<v Speaker 1>on what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, though his narration continues throughout this movie. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>like he gets to tell us how, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>see them pushing the cart through the jungle and they

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<v Speaker 3>look around and see monkeys screaming at them, and the

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<v Speaker 3>kid says, this is how I get my education.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'll come back to some of the details

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<v Speaker 1>about the differences and at least the ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>really key to understanding what's happening in the picture or

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<v Speaker 1>why things are, you know, proceding the way they are.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, basically, though, more time is spent with the characters,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, more time is spent with the politics and

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<v Speaker 1>the background. More time is spent laying out the duties

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<v Speaker 1>that ogami Eto has. That's our main character, the Showgun's executioner.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the first ten minutes or so the first Lone,

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<v Speaker 1>Wolve and Cup movie is just ogami Eto about to

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<v Speaker 1>execute a young lord, like a child that is the

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<v Speaker 1>same age as his own son, on the orders of

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<v Speaker 1>the Shogun. This is of course the sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>that if you are a recent viewer of the excellent

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<v Speaker 1>Hulu FX miniseries Showgun, which is of course more historically

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<v Speaker 1>based perhaps in some ways than Shogun Assessin, you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with this sort of thing. But it does just

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<v Speaker 1>a great job in the original picture just laying out

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<v Speaker 1>like this is the kind of work he has to do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he has to do bloody deets for the Showgun.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of a sense of honor and duty, and at

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<v Speaker 1>and at night he prays for this of those that

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<v Speaker 1>he has killed. And then finally, I should also mention

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<v Speaker 1>that both of these films had also already been released

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<v Speaker 1>in the US by Toho with subtitles, so it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to think about that as well. This is not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like Shogun Assassin was the absolute first time US

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<v Speaker 1>audience has had a chance to see these films. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>at least some moviegoers out there already were familiar with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was kind of like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>redistribution or repackaging of these films for a new audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly seemed to have found its audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that makes me think, what is your understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of the original reception history of this movie. Was it

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<v Speaker 3>literally like a you know, a midnight movie grindhouse kind

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<v Speaker 3>of kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my understanding. This was like a grindhouse sensation, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in which the expectations for cinema were you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme. People were tuning in to see those brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>arterial sprays, the violence and some of the psychedelic sequences,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And and it's through this that Shogun Assassin

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<v Speaker 1>ended up really resonating with various various folks, everyone from

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Quentin Tarantino, members of a Wu Tang clan,

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. There's a lot here that's been sampled

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere and so forth. So I think it it also

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<v Speaker 1>does a great job of just you know, introducing the

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<v Speaker 1>world of Lone Wolf and Cub to a different audience,

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<v Speaker 1>a wider audience, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>You can think of it kind of like one of

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<v Speaker 3>those sitcom episodes where they do a clip show from

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<v Speaker 3>the other episodes, but here it's it's a clip show

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<v Speaker 3>of Lone Wolf and Cub, so you get you get

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<v Speaker 3>a flavor of the different adventures.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to imagine another project doing something like this though,

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<v Speaker 1>Like can you imagine taking say Predator one and Predator

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<v Speaker 1>two and then editing them together into one film.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be easier if they had the same main character,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Or how about Godfather one and to edited

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<v Speaker 1>into a single ninety minute film call it Mafia sa brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's maybe more apt because in an effort like you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to like boil out, you know, reduce it

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<v Speaker 1>and remove all of most of the politics and get

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<v Speaker 1>down to just like an ultra simplified, like you know, plot,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what we have in Shogun Assassin. M Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on that note, why don't we go ahead and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to a little trailer audio. This is from the This

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<v Speaker 1>is the trailer to be clear, to Shogun Assassin, not

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<v Speaker 1>the original Lone Wolf and Cub films. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to all of it because it is it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of long, but I want to make sure we

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of that music, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the narrator saying the title of.

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<v Speaker 4>The picture, return to the vanished kingdoms of ancient times,

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<v Speaker 4>the journey to a lust empire.

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<v Speaker 5>Of mad wizards and bombaric passions. Behold the saga of

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<v Speaker 5>a legendary warrior, a loving father who has the power

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<v Speaker 5>of a dozen armies in one.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweep of his mystic blade.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a story of honor, disgrace, vengeance, massacre, and

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<v Speaker 6>the man who became a demon Shogun Assassin.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, if you would like to watch Shogun

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<v Speaker 1>Assassin and perhaps all six Lone Wolf and Cub films,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all currently streaming on the Criterion Channel. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>really digging this resource. Recently, there's also a great looking

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<v Speaker 1>Criterion collection box set of the six films. Showgun Assassin

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<v Speaker 1>itself has been released on Blu ray and DVD, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that one might be harder to grab right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, if you have some sort of rental

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<v Speaker 1>service at your disposal, be it videodrome here in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever your local video rental option is, or even maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the public library, as a listener brought up in the

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<v Speaker 1>recent Listener Mail episode, Yeah, don't discount your public library.

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<v Speaker 1>They might have some Showgun Assassin waiting for you. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the people involved here before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the plot and so forth. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a nineteen eighty film release composed edited together

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<v Speaker 1>from two nineteen seventy two films. We can't do justice

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<v Speaker 1>to all the folks involved in these different projects, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to most single out some of the key

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<v Speaker 1>folks from the first two Lone Wolf and Cub films,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as key people responsible for the Showgun Assassin cut. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so starting I think at the top where

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<v Speaker 1>credit is deserved. The director of both Lone Wolf and

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<v Speaker 1>Cub films one and two. This is Kenji Masumi, who

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen twenty one through nineteen seventy five. Very well

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<v Speaker 1>regarded Japanese film director, best known certainly internationally for his

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<v Speaker 1>work on four of the six Lone Wolf and Cub

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<v Speaker 1>films that's one, two, three, and five, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>his Zatoichi films. His other movies also include nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two's Hanzo the Razors Sword of Justice and nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six's Return of Damijin. This is a Tokusatsu film about

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<v Speaker 1>a giant demon god. I haven't seen these films, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was the second in a series that had started

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that same year. Like a big statue type.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, Well, like a giant statue of a samurai warrior.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, with a scowl on his face and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>See screenshots of one scene where he appears to be

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<v Speaker 3>walking through a parted See ooh, I don't know. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have to flag this one. Come back to it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have to credit the creators of Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>and Cub. Two individuals worth singling out here. The first

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<v Speaker 1>as Kazuo Kooki, who lived nineteen thirty six through twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen writer, creator of the He's the legendary Japanese manga writer, novelist, screenwriter, lyricist,

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<v Speaker 1>and entrepreneur, apparently best known for co creating the Lone

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf and Cub series, not only writing it but also

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<v Speaker 1>adapting it for the screen. In both of these the

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<v Speaker 1>pictures that are used to create Shogun Assassin. He'd continued

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<v Speaker 1>to do this with numerous other works of his that

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<v Speaker 1>were adapted to the screen, including nineteen seventy two's Hanzo

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<v Speaker 1>the Razor. He also wrote a Wolverine story for Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's from two thousand and three

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<v Speaker 1>X Men Unlimited Volume one, issue fifty, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the Eisner Hall of Fame. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the artists that were the manga artists that worked with

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<v Speaker 1>him on this was Goseki Kojima, who lived nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight through two thousand. Yeah, he worked with him on

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<v Speaker 1>the Lone Wolf and Cub film, so very much a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the original alchemy of bringing this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>life on the page. All right, now turning to the

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<v Speaker 1>folks heading up Shogun Assassin, we have a Showgun Assassin

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<v Speaker 1>director and writer Robert Houston born nineteen fifty five. So

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<v Speaker 1>this individual is an Academy Award winning director for a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four short form documentary titled Mighty Times

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<v Speaker 1>The Children's March. This was produced by HBO and the

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<v Speaker 1>Southern Poverty Loss Or dealing with the Birmingham, Alabama civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights Marches of the nineteen sixties. Long before this, though,

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<v Speaker 1>he played Bobby in Wes Craven's nineteen seventy seven Mutant

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<v Speaker 1>Mayhem movie The Hills Have Eyes. What I included a

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<v Speaker 1>still for you here, Joe. If anyone remembers, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>blonde kid in the T shirt. Okay, yeah, that's him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our director.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, paths Crossing. I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He appeared in a handful of late seventies and

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<v Speaker 1>early eighties pictures before heading up the Showgun Assassin project

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<v Speaker 1>for producer David Weissman, which would ultimately be released by

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Corman's New World Pictures. His subsequent directorial and writing

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<v Speaker 1>credits include an array of thrillers, erotica, an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Doogie Howser MD, and of course, Academy Award winning documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>Shorts How Strange?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, All right now? David Weisman, who has mentioned He

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<v Speaker 1>is credit ded with as a writer and a producer

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<v Speaker 1>on this He lived nineteen forty two through twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He was apparently part of a splinter group from Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Warhol's factory back in the sixties, and he went on

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<v Speaker 1>to produce such films as nineteen eighty five's Kiss of

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<v Speaker 1>the Spider Woman. All right, now, getting back into the

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<v Speaker 1>original Japanese cast, the actors who bring this picture to life,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Lone Wolf and Cub. So let's start with Lone Wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>The character of ogami Eto, the Shogun's executioner turned ronan.

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<v Speaker 1>He's played by Tomisaburo Wakayama, and he lived nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine through nineteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 3>He brings a lot to this movie in that he

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<v Speaker 3>is an absolutely lethal action hero, but he does not,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he doesn't have a very active aura.

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<v Speaker 3>He brings a lot of stillness and patience. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm getting at here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, And I think it's it's something that's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of not really process all the way, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just watching Shogun Assassin, and maybe if you

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of have it on in the background or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But it begins to make more and more sense once

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<v Speaker 1>you really absorb the character, because you know, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk much, but it is a full body performance of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this mix of silent honor and determination, but

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<v Speaker 1>all of it burning within this scowling husk of shame

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<v Speaker 1>and sorrow. Like he is a man who's been brought low,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been betrayed, who is marked for death, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of these circumstances are out of his control,

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<v Speaker 1>but inwardly he's remaining true to his principles while the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world either turns their backs on him or turns

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<v Speaker 1>their blades on him. And then when he does unleash

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<v Speaker 1>his fury, oh man, it's just this fluid artery severing machinery.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the and right down to when he's finished, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fluid sheathing of his sword.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a final signature on a regal contract of death.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>His presence in the action scenes is very much like

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<v Speaker 3>a he is a machine where the valve is closed

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<v Speaker 3>and then suddenly it explodes open and there is a

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<v Speaker 3>release of activity and then it closes again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's such a great performance. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you learn a little bit more about Wakayama. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like his background makes sense when you see this, because

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<v Speaker 1>he was an accomplished kabooki actor uh and a judo

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<v Speaker 1>practitioner that you know that ended up then getting into

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<v Speaker 1>film acting. You know, so I can you can, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see that, like that control of the body, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fluid movements, and and then like his his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to use these often like just smoldering facial expressions

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, like where he's not just scowling, He's

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<v Speaker 1>not just like, well, I'm gonna look like a like

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad ass for this scene. Like, no, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there there, there's stuff going on behind the eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>you can sense it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's something more uh sad and also in a

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<v Speaker 3>way threatening about the kind of the blankness that he

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<v Speaker 3>often brings.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, just just a wonderful performance, you know. He

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<v Speaker 1>he's mostly known for, you know, for these films, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lone Wolf and Cub films. He's in all of these

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<v Speaker 1>original six pictures. He also had some starring roles and

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<v Speaker 1>some other Toho Martial Arts films, but outside of Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>he only ever appeared in two Western films. He pops

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<v Speaker 1>up as a coach in nineteen seventy eight's The Bad

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<v Speaker 1>News Bears Go to Japan.

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<v Speaker 4>What.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't seen that one. But then he also

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<v Speaker 1>has has a turn as a as a key yakuza

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<v Speaker 1>boss in Ridley Scott's Black Rain from nineteen eighty nine. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen that one either. It's, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of Ridley's like non sci fi fantasy films, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>never gotten around to it, but I've seen some stills.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like he has a really smoldering presence, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he gets to deliver a monologue that features

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<v Speaker 1>the title of the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Wow, nineteen eighty nine, Michael Douglas, Andy Garcia, Kate Capshaw. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this looks worth seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing trailers for it as a kid and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like, oh, it's more Blade Runner, and then I realized,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wait, it's not Blade Runner. This takes place in

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<v Speaker 1>the real world, and then I don't watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, the poster is hilarious. I see Michael Douglas

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<v Speaker 3>there with his arms folded, like, yeah, what do you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like something like an American cop must go

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<v Speaker 1>to Japan to track a yukuza killer or something. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it may be great if you love

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<v Speaker 1>it right in and let us know. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's our Lone Wolf, our Cub.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm imagining Michael Douglas doing like Fish

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<v Speaker 3>out of Water scenes where he like tries sushi for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time. He's like, oh, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was the nineteen eighties, but I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what Black Rain is, but I know maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>so all right. Digoro is played by Akihiro Tamakawa born

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Child actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Cute kid, but like these are pretty much his only credits.

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<v Speaker 1>But still I cannot stress enough how cute this kid is.

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<v Speaker 1>Just such a cute kid. Show any clip that features

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<v Speaker 1>Lone Wolf and Cub to anyone in your vicinity, and

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<v Speaker 1>that will at least be their one of their comments.

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<v Speaker 3>Cute kid.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of spraying blood and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>He's even cute when he's operating like the switchblade knives

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<v Speaker 3>in his baby carriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he gets to kill too. Just one of the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting details, all right. The chief antagonist of this picture

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<v Speaker 1>is this is kind of confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was mighty confused by.

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<v Speaker 1>This because when you watch Shogun Assassin, they talk a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about the Shogun, and they present the show is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like this evil, paranoid, corrupted ruler who is

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<v Speaker 1>just exacting his vengeance in paranoia on the entire nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's very much three and that's you know, ed

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<v Speaker 1>works within the context of Shogun Assassin. But the character

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<v Speaker 1>who they identify as the Showgun is absolutely not the

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<v Speaker 1>Shogun in the Lone Wolf and Cub series.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so confused because the movie, the way it's edited,

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 3>makes it clear that he's supposed to be the Shogun,

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 3>because like when the narration mentions the Shogun, they always

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>showed this guy's face. And then I was reading summaries

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 3>of the plot that like, say, no, this guy isn't

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the Shogun. He's like the head of the Ninja assassins,

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, well, that kind of makes sense

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 3>because he doesn't really look like he doesn't have shogun regalia, no,

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 3>not at all, And so yeah, it was I had

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 3>no idea what was going on here, but I did

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<v Speaker 3>call him the Shogun in my plot summaries. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we're gonna go with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's totally fair to call him the showgun within

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the confines of shogun assassin, but within the confines of

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the larger Lone Wolf and Cub series and the other

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>six movies, this character is Yagyu Rotsuto, and he is. Yes,

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>he's the head of this group of ninja assassins. He is.

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>He's not the Showgun, he's one of them Showgun's many vassals,

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>but he is working his own political agenda within the system.

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 3>He really just doesn't have shogun energy either. He does

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 3>have big bad energy, but for a Western equivalent, he

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>feels more like a like a resputant type character, like

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 3>he's supposed to be a wicked mad monk or something.

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that's the look he has, like this like

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>demon white hair and scowl like he out scowls are

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.159
<v Speaker 1>our Ronan here, you know, like he's just it's a

0:27:56.200 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>scowl off between these two. But yeah, Ratsuto is such

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a great villain in this picture. Even even though he's

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>largely an orchestrator, we don't see him directly do anything.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's ultimately kind of the tragedy here. Because this

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>character is the long term antagonist of the series. There's

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>not going to be any payoff with him. This guy

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>is not getting assassinated, No, matter. Despite the title Showgun Assassin,

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>the Showgun's not getting it in this picture.

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the target of our protagonist in the last scene

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.160
<v Speaker 3>in the movie is some guy. It's like, who is this?

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I think in Shogun Assassin they present him as the

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Shogun's brother. Yes, but in the actual movie, the second

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>len Wolf and Cub film, it's like a guy who

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>is betraying an Indigo company in order to give trade

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>secrets to the Showgun. So it's like an entire subplot

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really directly. I mean, it does impact the Showgun,

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's not the Shogun's brother.

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 3>The in Shogun Assassin they describe him as this evil

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 3>lord who's the brother of the Showgun and is oppressing

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 3>the people who hire the Lone Wolf.

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But now he's like a corporate defector.

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 3>But like, I don't recall if we ever meet him

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 3>much in the movie before this, I mean maybe a little,

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 3>but yeah.

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so at any rate, you can call him Shogun,

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you can call him Ratsudo. But this character is played

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>by Yunosuki Ito, who lived nineteen nineteen through nineteen eighty,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a well regarded Japanese character actor who appeared in more

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>than two hundred films from between nineteen thirty two and

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy nine, with parts ranging from hammi performances, which

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm to understand are referred to as radish performances in

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Japanese culture because yeah, apparently he wrote a memoir and

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, like a memoir of a

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>radish performer or something, you know. But he played everything

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>from like comedic characters to memorable villains. His credits include

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Kurosawa's films Ikiu and fifty two Sandjuro and sixty two

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>High and Low, sixty three He Is. He's also known

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for a dual role in the classic ninja film Shinobi Nomono,

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>which I think this is one that we mentioned in

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>passing in our episodes on the Ninjas. This is a

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>picture from nineteen sixty two, and it was an award

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>winning performance. There's also a picture called Obamb exclamation Point

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen sixty four that said to be a great

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>example of his comedic work. I included a still from

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Obamb where you can see him like plugging his ears

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>with his fingers and you know, clear comedic performance here he's.

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Doing kind of a Don Knat's face.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, it's that style of comedy. So yeah, I

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>love Eto so much in this as the villain Ritsudo,

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but sadly he did not return to play the part

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>in subsequent films. But here we have just this brooding,

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>demonic visage of a man just grading with hatred. And

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I have to say the English dub in Shogun Assassin,

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel it does very accurately capture the essence of

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>his original Japanese language dialogue as well. Just that just

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that grating, like teeth grinding level of a venom in

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>his voice. Yeah, just like you want this guy or

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you maybe you don't want this guy to show up

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>outside your door everything every time you do something wrong,

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>like thee in your place.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 3>They they fit him in well as the Shogun with

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the narration, at least because, as Daigoro explains that the

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Shogun was paranoid and saw enemies everywhere, and this guy

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>looks like that. He's his eyes are always shifting back

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>and forth real quick to you know, see enemies coming

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>from any corner. He's he looks suspicious and frightened and angry,

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 3>and also has that that general look of someone who's

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 3>like the not wellness of their mind has affected their body,

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like he looks kind of decrepit in some way.

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely so again, Showgun Assassin does not have time for

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>all the politics. They simplify everything. But it's it's a

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>good at it in terms of just presenting a picture

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that the grindhouse audience can enjoy in a villain they

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>can who anah at.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 3>This movie has so many villains.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, because we also have we have numerous heads

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of different Ninja assassin clans and I'm not even we

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>can't even get into all of those, but one of

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the key one, but I would say the key one

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>that also ends up becoming an ally of sorts is

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Ninja. This is Yagyu Sayaka played by Keo

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Matsuo born nineteen forty three, our female ninja master of

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Exceptional Skill. She's perhaps best known for this role, but

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>she was also in nineteen sixty nine's Outlaw Gangster VIP

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty four's gat of Flesh. In nineteen seventy is

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the Vampire Doll.

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 3>So she plays the head of a clan of ninja

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 3>who are all women who sort of they do the

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>operate in disguise and sneak attack stuff and her ninja

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 3>are said to be the best, and she is. I

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 3>would say, of all the enemies that Lone Wolf faces

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>in the movie, she is the one who gets closest

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 3>to getting the better of him.

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. But also I think she gets

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a little too close to his heart.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 3>She gets in with a net. It's hard to beat

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 3>a net, you know.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's effective in combat against and they have a

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>great fight scene. I mean, all the fight scenes are great.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>But other thing worth mentioning is that in Shogun Assassin,

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>she is I believe, dubbed by comedian and actress Sandra

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Bernhardt in nineteen fifty five. I'm not saying it's a

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>great dub, but apparently this is Sandra Bernhard.

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 1>There are some other heads of different ninja groups that

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>we could mention if we have more time. But I

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>do want to mention that we have not one, not two,

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>but three masters of death in this picture that show

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>up late in the movie as essentially like the main bosses.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Their outfits, in particular their hats might be quite familiar

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 3>to fans of Big Trouble and Little China.

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Three Storms and Big Trouble Little China are

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>clearly based in part in large part on the look

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Masters of Death aka the Monks of Death

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>aka the Hidari Brothers. They're not sorcerers like the Three Storms.

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>They are just masters of martial arts and they depend on

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>particular weapons. Let's see, what is it, the like the

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>flying maces, the like the spike gloves.

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's like a like a Gardening Claus kind of thing. Yeah,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 3>there's a there's like a glove with spikes on the fist,

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>and there's a club with nails in it.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, these are the Masters of Death. The lead

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Master of Death is Binma Hidari played by Minoru Oki,

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen twenty three through two thousand and nine,

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Japanese actor best known for his work in the Lone

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Wolf and Cub films. Because not only does he play

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the lead Master or Monk of Death here, but he

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>returned to the Lone Wolf and Cub series in films

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>five six to play his own version of the chief villain,

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Yagyu Ritsudo.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh. Okay, so he replaces the actor who in this

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 3>movie is is twisted into being the Shogun.

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Right yeah, so yeah. The character shows up much later

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and so I believe he is the actor playing the

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>character when vengeance and or assassination finally does occur.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>He was also in nineteen sixty nine Horrors of Malformed Men,

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>which we've mentioned on the show before. And I'll also

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>mention that one of the other Masters of Death, this

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.839
<v Speaker 1>is the Karuma Hidari I forget which weapon he uses,

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>is played by Shin Kashida, who lived nineteen thirty nine

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>through nineteen eighty two, a supporting actor best known for

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>this film, as well as Godzilla Versus Mecha Godzilla from

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>seventy four, Lady Snowblood two, and then two different Dracula films,

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.839
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one's Lake of Dracula in nineteen seventy four

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>is Evil of Dracula, which I think you could also

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe referred to as Principle of Dracula. That's one. It's

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>on my list now. I really want to see Evil

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of Dracula.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>But let's get back to the music here again. This

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>is what drew me into watching Shogun Assassin in the

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>first place. And we've already talked a little about just

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>how about how effective the synth score is. Now the

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>original films were scored by Iikens Sakura and Hideika Sakurai,

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think some of their original music remains in

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Showgun Assassin. I could be wrong on that. But more

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to the point, we have this just deliriously great synth

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>score added to the picture. And this is the work

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>of Mark Lindsay born nineteen forty two and W Michael Lewis.

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've ever used this term applied

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 3>to music before, but sometimes we say of an actor

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 3>that we admire that they're really committed to the role,

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 3>meaning that they're they're not holding back anything for fear

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 3>of embarrassment. They're not trying to be more subtle than

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 3>is required. They just go headfirst all the way in.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 3>This is the first movie I've ever seen where I

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 3>would say that about the music. The music is just

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 3>committed to the feeling. They are not holding back anything.

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 3>This just unabashed, pure feeling made into vibrations.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, it's just a terrific score and it's interesting

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at these two individuals. So. Mark Lindsay was the

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 1>vocalist and sax player for the American rock band Paul

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Revere and the Raiders from nineteen fifty eight through nineteen

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>seventy five. Joe, are you familiar at all with Paul

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Revere and the Raiders.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean this was some of my parents' music.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 3>I remember when I was younger, Like, I remember kicks,

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, kicks just keep getting harder to find.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I this was also some of my parents' music.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I specifically remember going through the records at my grandmother's house.

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>It would have been like the records of my mom's

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and also her sisters, and find a Paul Revere and

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders album in there, And I remember just thinking, man,

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties just looks so lame, Like this is

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the lamest thing I've ever seen, because if you're not familiar,

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>their whole shtick visually was dressing up as Revolutionary War soldiers.

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, they had these Revolutionary War costumes, which I mean,

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe I've ever heard like was it cool

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>at the time. I guess it was people dug it.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But I remember just thinking this just looks super lame.

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Is there supposed to be? Like, so if it's Paul Revere,

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 3>is it like the British are coming? Like British invasion music?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that all thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like, yeah, it's like a counter to

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the British invasion, and that would that would have been

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>lost on me as a as a child looking at this,

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>all I knew at the time was that what's the

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>most boring thing in school? It's it's American history. At

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the time. I'm not saying that as an adult, American

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>history is fascinating, but at the time, the idea of

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War themed music was not like a great cell

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>But to be clear, Paul Revere and the Raiders not

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>super lame. They had some real gems, some real jams,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand it from the school perspective. Yeah, it's like

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 3>the band is where their theme is. They're all math textbooks.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was like they were textbook themed.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Yeah, they have some, they have some. They

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>have some great music. I went, I'd never really gotten

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>into their stuff, but I did make sure that I

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 1>listened to some of their tracks. They have a great

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one cover of Indian Reservation So solid group.

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Mark turned to film scoring in the nineteen seventies for

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>a bet w Michael Lewis, for his part, was a

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>music producer who got into scoring with nineteen seventy eight

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Secrets of the Bermuda Triangle, and he'd go on to

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>score nineteen eighties New Year's Evil, nineteen eighty one's Enter

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the Ninja, and also the TV series In Search of

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 1>starring Letter Tame like Oh.

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 3>I saw that when I looked him up.

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>A couple of nineteen eighty seven releases Maximum Potential and

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Hot Child in the City.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I had to stop and remember what the name

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 3>of this other Bermuda Triangle movie I was thinking of was.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 3>The one I was thinking of is a made for

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.479
<v Speaker 3>TV movie from nineteen also from nineteen seventy eight called

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 3>The Bermuda Depths, which starred Carl Weathers in the shortest

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 3>shorts ever made and also had burl ives as I

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 3>think a marine biologist or something. But it's ultimately it's

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>about a giant turtle that attacks a boat.

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I think you made me watch the climax from this picture.

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>And it looked not the best.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>It looked incredible. Maybe we'll come back to it, maybe

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>so anyway, Yeah, the music for Shogun Assassin, I think

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it's just tremendous. Again, de Goro's theme is not only

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the best track on the score, but it's

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 1>just an amazing and emotional number in its own right.

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it's one of these where I was listening to

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it earlier and it was like, is this one of

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>my favorite songs? Now I think this is currently one

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest musical compositions of all time. My opinions

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>will change, obviously, but right now it's really doing it

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>for me.

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 3>It's so good, Like I said, not holding anything back.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 3>You can imagine somebody being like, oh, is this music.

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, should we make it a little more

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 3>subtle little but no, it's just it's just the raw

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>power of feeling unleashed. Something feels absolutely unabashed about it,

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>and I love.

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>It, And it's perfect for a film that again is

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a Samurai reduction. You know, it had two films reduced

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>into one. You know, just the most dizzying moments of

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>psychedelia or bloody violence condensed into a single picture that

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really Again, it's a testament that they

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>were to the film, that the American filmmakers here, that

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>they were able to take part one and Part two

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in this series and make a single picture out of

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it that works this well. Yeah, the score here by

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the way to Shogun Assassin is available wherever you stream

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>your music, and there are CD and vinyl versions as well.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I do not know if there is like a blood

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>red vinyl edition of this soundtrack, but there needs to be.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 3>If you listen to it, at least the version that

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I heard on Spotify. It includes some of the narration

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 3>from the movie as well.

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so good. That also made me tear up,

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>like on an airplane listening to this. You know, people

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>are like, are you okay, And I'm like, I'm just

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>listening to the Shogun Assassin soundtrack, man, that's all. That's

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>all that's going on here. I'm good.

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>This is funny. How similar are our experiences were? I

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 3>also had embarrassing emotional episodes Digoros theme specifically.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, let's get into that plot of Shogun Assassin.

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, we have already mentioned how strong the

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 3>movie kicks off. So the introductory segment has a child's

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 3>voice narrating as we see a montage of scenes play out,

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 3>and this is the voice of Digoro, the Cub of

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf and Cub. So the introductory narration plays over

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 3>this dark melody on synthesizer bas the sound of absolute doom,

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 3>and we hear the child's voice say, when I was little,

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 3>my father was famous. He was the greatest samurai in

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 3>the empire, and he was the Shogun's decapitator. He cut

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 3>off the heads of one hundred and thirty one lords

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 3>for the shogun. And as this narration is going on,

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 3>we see our protagonist walk into the frame the silent

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 3>ogami Eto. His eyes are downcast, he moves slowly. He

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 3>has a blank, lugubrious expression. And then we see Ito's

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 3>blade twisting and gleaming in the light. And then suddenly

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 3>there's like a shadow playlet entirely in red and just

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 3>the silhouettes of the human figures in the foreground, and

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 3>we see a man kneeling to receive a death sentence

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 3>and another man, presumably our protagonist here, bringing a sword

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 3>down on his neck.

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And to be clear, if you have to have your

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>head cut off, this is the guy you want to

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>do it. This guy is the ultimate pro.

0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of our series on the Invention of

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 3>the guillotine, where we were talking about how bad a

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 3>lot of professional executioners were and like they just couldn't

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>like it took them way too many tries to get

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 3>it done.

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a gami eto one one swipe every time, guaranteed.

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 3>If you want some real oof historical reading, look up

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Jack Ketch.

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I remember some of these details. And it

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>was also I recently visited the revisited the Tower of London,

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>so I got I got to read more about some

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>of these these execution facts. Yeah, but they did not

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 1>have the shoguns mastered decapitator on hand.

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 3>So Diegoro's narration goes on. He says it was a

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 3>bad time for the empire. The shogun just stayed inside

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 3>his castle and he never came out. People said his

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 3>brain was infected by devils and that he was rotting

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 3>with evil. The shogun said the people were not loyal.

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 3>He said he had a lot of enemies, but he

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 3>killed more people than that. Then we see a castle.

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 3>The gate swing open, revealing sort of a court to

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of entourage of people and a ruler. And

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.800
<v Speaker 3>here's where I was originally going to break and discuss.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, is the guy we're seeing here the shogun?

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>But we already had that conversation, not originally, but in

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Shogun Assassin, that is what is implied. He is the Shogun.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, so we're just going to continue referring to

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>him as the Shogun just for the simplicity's sake here.

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And you know, oh, I do love this narration because

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>there is a simplicity to it that also works not

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>only for the project that is Shogun Assassin, but also

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the idea that this is a child's recollection and the

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>child is working for from a much simpler view of

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>right and wrong and good and evil in his known universe.

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Yeah, and I guess implied by that, you're saying

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 3>this might be sort of a child's memory of the

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Shogun in which he looks almost like a monster.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think you could lean into that kind

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of interpretation.

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 3>So he's got wild, uncombed white hair and beard that's

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 3>blowing around in the wind like a mass of cobwebs. Also,

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 3>he has flaring white eyebrows, his teeth are clenched, he's

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 3>got dark eyes, and his eyes just keep jerking back

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 3>and forth, suspicions suspiciously the Shogun is not well. And

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 3>then we see the shogun soldiers leading bound men up

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 3>a mountain side with their hands tied behind their back

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 3>to a chaotic mass execution in the gravel beside a

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 3>small tarn. The narration goes on. It was a bad time,

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 3>everybody living in fear, but still we were happy. My

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>father would come home to mother, and when he had

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.240
<v Speaker 3>seen her, he would forget about the killings. He wasn't

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 3>scared of the shogun, but the shogun was scared of him.

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was the problem. And so here we see

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 3>a brief glimpse of the family's life at home, the

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 3>mother nursing the baby's son at their house, rain pouring

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 3>into the small bamboo forest outside, and I think the

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 3>sort of weather is a metaphor. Here there's love and

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>comfort inside, but not outside where the weather is bad.

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 3>And the father comes home and undresses. He takes his

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 3>baby in his arms, and the mother says that she

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 3>had a bad dream, but the father calms her and

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 3>says to the baby, what a time you chose to

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 3>be born? Igoro. The narration goes on. At night, mother

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 3>would sing for us, while father would go into his

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 3>temple and pray for peace. He'd pray for things to

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:52.120
<v Speaker 3>get better. Then one night the shogun sent his ninja

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 3>spies to our house. They were supposed to kill my father,

0:47:56.080 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 3>but they didn't. Here we see ninja scaling the wall

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 3>and sneaking into their home. And there, if you go

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 3>back to our Ninja episodes from a while back, we

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>see some stuff we talked about there, some equipment, like

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 3>the ninja are carrying swords between their teeth out and

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 3>they climb up on ropes on grappling hooks. And so

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 3>the father is praying in his temple while with the

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.800
<v Speaker 3>baby in his arms, and then he hears his wife's

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>scream from the other end of the house. By the

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 3>time he gets there, she's mortally wounded and the ninja

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 3>are gone, and the dying mother tells the father that

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 3>he must protect their son. The narration tells us that

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>was the night everything changed forever. That was when my

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 3>father left his samurai life and became a demon. He

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 3>became an assassin who walks the road of vengeance, and

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 3>he took me with him. And then at this moment

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 3>we see a scene of the dynamic that will be

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.439
<v Speaker 3>treated as sort of the ground reality for the rest

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 3>of the movie. The father trudging along lonely, desolate roads,

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 3>pushing a wooden cart and the baby son riding in

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 3>the cart. Daigo says, I don't remember most of this myself.

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I only remember the Shogun's ninja hunting us wherever we go,

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and the body's falling and the blood.

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is the like, this is the key

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:21.879
<v Speaker 1>component of Lone Wolf and Cub that has been highly influential.

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So if you out there are a fan of the

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian series, like the Mandalorian is quite clearly and you know,

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the creators are very upfront about this, very much inspired

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>by Lone Wolf and Cub. You know, a warrior protecting

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 1>a child, you know, hunted by enemies, but you know,

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 1>standing by the child to protect them, and especially with

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Lone Wolf and Cub, I couldn't help. But also compare

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>it to the two thousand and six novel by Cormick McCarthy,

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>The Road, in which a father and his son traverse

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a doomed landscape where there's ever present danger and the

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.720
<v Speaker 1>father's entire existence is to still down to the protection

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of his son. Quote. He knew only that his child

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>was his warrant. He said, if he is not the

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>word of God, God never spoke. You know that that

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of vibe. So, I mean, I don't know the

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Court McCarthy ever watched Shogun Assassin, but you know, I

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.839
<v Speaker 1>think they're scratching the same itch here. But I think

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 1>it's something that you know, a lot of us can

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>relate to. You know, certainly if if there is a

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:29.720
<v Speaker 1>child in your life where there has been a child

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in your life, where you have this role as a

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>as a protector, like, it's easy to sort of lean

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>into this. I think ultimately, you know, very distilled idea

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of what your responsibility is. You know, in the same

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>way that zombie films are enthralling because it simplifies good

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and evil into like you know, and in us versus them.

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like this kind of the lone wolf and cub

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 1>model reduces everything down to I must protect my child

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 1>from ninjas, you know. And you know, we get to

0:50:59.040 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>some degree that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Act yeah, and so, and we get that demonstrated here

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.320
<v Speaker 3>because here we go to the very first action scene

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 3>in the film, the attack by ninja wearing baskets over

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 3>their heads, which is amazingly creepy and memorable. So it

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 3>begins with one man running toward the father and son

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 3>from a distance. They're on the road. He's pushing the

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.439
<v Speaker 3>cart there just in the middle of nowhere, and there's

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 3>someone running toward them, sword in hand, his head completely

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 3>covered in a basket like a helmet with a mask

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.280
<v Speaker 3>in the front. There's kind of a grating in the basket,

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.800
<v Speaker 3>but you can't see his face. And there's a long

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 3>build up as the ninja draws closer, and then finally,

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 3>when he's in within striking distance, the father just suddenly

0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 3>flicks his sword and cleaves the ninja's head through the basket,

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>with the ninja catching the blade between his hands as

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 3>he dies. And then a second ninja leaps out from

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 3>behind the first, springs from his dying partner's shoulders and

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 3>tries to land a killing stroke while his while the

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 3>father's sword is stuck. But the father is too crafty.

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 3>He pulls a hidden second weapon from the cart, which

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 3>is a bamboo pole with a retractable blade in it,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.440
<v Speaker 3>and he skewers the attacker in mid air. And so

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 3>then as the first ninja collapses with his dying breath,

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 3>he tells the father, you are marked for death. Wherever

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 3>you go, you cannot escape the showgun.

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's such a strong start this scene is not

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>only is it from the second film Lone Wolf and

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Cub Baby cart at the River Sticks. It is the

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>cold open to that picture, like he just goes straight

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to this encounter, and it's a little longer in the

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>original cut obviously.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:44.799
<v Speaker 4>But.

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 1>I have several thoughts of this same. First of all,

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.439
<v Speaker 1>in the Showgun Assassin cut, I believe the second area

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>assassin that leaps over the shoulders of the first, I

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 1>believe he says ninja is he? Which is great with

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:04.360
<v Speaker 1>an the context of Showgun Assassin, But of course in reality,

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that as a ninja you would say

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>ninja as you attack somebody, But still I love it. Secondly, yeah, okay,

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 1>back to the first assassin though. Yeah, he apparently tries

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to pull off this maneuver that is known in Japanese manga, anime,

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and cinema as a shinkin shiradori. This is where you

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>catch the blade with between your palms before it can

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 1>cut into you, and then if you're really sadly maybe

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you do a special twist to sort of like throw

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the attacker to the side. This has become like a standard,

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not only in manga, in Japanese cinema but throughout like

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.880
<v Speaker 1>action picture the action picture world. Like for instance, in

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Blade two, the day Walker pulls this move off kind

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>of lad in the picture to great effect, but in reality,

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm to understand this is impossible for a human swordsman

0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>to pull off. I think there's a MythBusters episode where

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they look into it, and I think the word the

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>term shinkin shihradori. I think it originally referred to some

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of maneuver that keeps your opponent from even drawing

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>their sword. So like, that's the time to stop it

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>not coming through the air at your head. Yeah, but

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>what makes this sequence so amazing is that you know

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going up against the greatest swordsman that's ever lived.

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to counter his deathly sword strike, and he

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 1>does not get all of that counter move. Yeah, it's

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like maybe he stops it from cleaving his head all

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the way through, but it has already entered the brain

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 3>But it almost seems like this was the plan, Like

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 3>the plan is that the father will get his sword

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 3>stuck in the first ninja and the second one will

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 3>use that moment to strike. Did you get it the

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 3>same way?

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? And that's a little more clear in the original

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.600
<v Speaker 1>cut of this action sequence, but I think it still

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.959
<v Speaker 1>comes through in Shogun Assassin as well. But yeah, it's

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a great start to the combat because this is going

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to set the tone.

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.720
<v Speaker 3>So after the intro, we see the father and sons

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.279
<v Speaker 3>sitting together at a campfire in the middle of a

0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 3>thick forest. They're eating something white. I think it's rice

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:11.760
<v Speaker 3>balls or maybe buns or something, and they're just sitting

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:15.439
<v Speaker 3>there staring blankly into the fire, and the child's voice

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 3>over continues. He says, my father hardly ever talks anymore.

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.759
<v Speaker 3>We just go a little farther every day at night,

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 3>we make a fire and have our tea, and we

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 3>listen for the ninja who never make a sound. I

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 3>like that part. Same Diego says, sometimes he tells me

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:36.319
<v Speaker 3>about the past and about mother. I try not to

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 3>think about it, but my father can't help it. Sometimes

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 3>he gets lost in the past. And here we're about

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.280
<v Speaker 3>to see a couple of flashback scenes from before Lone

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Wolf and cub Win on the Run. The first is

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 3>after the death of Azami Diego's mother. This is the

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:58.399
<v Speaker 3>sword and ball scene where the father he's grieving. He's

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 3>not in his right mind, and Asdigo with him in

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 3>his temple. They're both dressed in white, and the father says,

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 3>today I begin walking the road to hell, but you

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 3>will choose your own path. And he offers a sword

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 3>and a toy ball. And so the idea is, he says,

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 3>choose the sword and the child will join his father

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.000
<v Speaker 3>on the road to hell. Choose the toy and the

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>child will join his mother in heaven. And there's some suspense,

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 3>but the cub he crawls and he reaches for the sword,

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 3>and the father is both troubled and relieved, and he

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 3>hugs his son and says that his mother would be proud,

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 3>and they will defy the shogun together. Assassin with son.

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a great sequence. He says that, like it's like

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 3>the name of their business.

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it is. It does pretty bod. I forget

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.320
<v Speaker 1>exactly what the wording is. But they have that banner

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.879
<v Speaker 1>on their cart. That's like sword for hire, son for hire.

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>You need a hold of toddler, got you covered? You

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:58.120
<v Speaker 1>need a local enemy cut in half. We can talk.

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:03.320
<v Speaker 3>So the other flashback is what followed immediately followed that immediately,

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 3>which is the moment of defiance. So the shogun's emissary

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:10.160
<v Speaker 3>comes to the father and reads a decree that he

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.840
<v Speaker 3>must either swear eternal loyalty to the shogun or commit

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 3>harakiri with his son, and obviously he's gonna do neither one.

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 3>He's got his head down and he starts to laugh

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and then slowly raises his face up, looking very stern

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and almost evil, and he says, you are wrong. I

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 3>have a third choice. And then the other guys they

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.360
<v Speaker 3>immediately get like freaked out. Uh oh. And in one

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 3>arm he picks up his infant son, and in the

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 3>other arm he draws his sword. And the officials who

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 3>read the decree they call for guards. They're like, ah,

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 3>stop him, can't you see he's a devil. I'm not

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 3>sure quite what was meant by that, but it's yeah,

0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 3>they're seeing him as some kind of demon. And this

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 3>leads to a brutal sword fight, one against many to

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 3>escape the building, and the father has his son in

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.000
<v Speaker 3>the crook of one arm the whole time. It's very

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 3>stylized violence. We see a sword blade break off inside

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 3>a guard's neck. There are jets of bright red blood

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 3>that erupt like geysers from the adversary's wounds. You can

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 3>see why this was effective on the midnight movie circuit.

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know if arterial sprays like this are

0:58:16.400 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 1>realistic or hyperrealistic. I thankfully do not know, but it

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>certainly sizzles on the screen and you get this idea

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that a human's life blood is just this high pressure substance,

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely straining for release by a skilled swordsman like ogami Eto.

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of blood jets in this movie. However,

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.000
<v Speaker 3>as the father cuts his way out of the compound,

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:42.080
<v Speaker 3>he is suddenly faced with the Shogun and his entourage.

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 3>The Shogun so he like cuts through the gate and

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 3>the gate opens and the Shogun is there with all

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.320
<v Speaker 3>of his men. The Shogun calls him mad one and

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:53.040
<v Speaker 3>says he can never escape his fate, but he offers

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:56.919
<v Speaker 3>him a deal. He says, you agree to a one

0:58:56.960 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 3>on one duel with my son with the Shogun's son,

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.600
<v Speaker 3>and if Lone Wolf can win this duel, he will

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 3>be awarded his freedom, and Lone Wolf accepts.

0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Now, again, I'm not going to go into a lot

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of detail about the differences between the original pictures and

0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Chokun Assassin, but I do feel like I need to

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>jump in on this one say and point out that

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>in the original again, Ogami is cornered not by the

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>shogun but by Ratsuto and his men, and he's given

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a choice here. He's like, Okay, this is the way

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>it can go down for you, Ogami. Either you go

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>ahead and commit your honorable suicide right now, or my

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 1>soldiers are going to cut you down with their quote

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>wall of swords. And Ogami says, no, neither of those

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:42.760
<v Speaker 1>is going to happen, and he tears off these outer

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 1>white robes and reveals that he wears black robes with

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the hollyhock crest of the Tokugawa Shogunate. So he's like, look,

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing the colors in the crest of the shogun

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.720
<v Speaker 1>You can't kill me. You can't even point your swords

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>at me without dishonoring yourself. And so they're at a standstill,

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and so a compromise is made. Okay, you remove those

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 1>robes and we will settle this via a formal duel. Yeah,

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:12.080
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise you might say, well, why didn't they just

1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 1>cut him down? Well, in the original picture it made

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:14.800
<v Speaker 1>more sense.

1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we go to the duel. From here, the

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:21.800
<v Speaker 3>duel takes place in the afternoon in a meadow of

1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 3>tall grass blowing in the wind, and we see the

1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 3>two samurai square off at a distance. The shogun's sun

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 3>is scowling, hateful, determined. The Lone Wolf wears the cub

1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 3>on a basket on his back, and they draw their

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.280
<v Speaker 3>swords and charge at one another. But Lone Wolf has

1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:41.880
<v Speaker 3>a trick up his sleeve here. Right when they are

1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.720
<v Speaker 3>about to meet on the field, Lone Wolf bows his

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:49.919
<v Speaker 3>head and reveals a mirror mounted on Diigero's head, which

1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:53.680
<v Speaker 3>reflects the low sun and blinds their enemy. And then

1:00:53.760 --> 1:00:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf chops off the lord's son's head and his

1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:01.040
<v Speaker 3>body is just standing there, headlows with jets of blood

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.640
<v Speaker 3>blasting out of the next stump in slow motion in

1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:04.760
<v Speaker 3>the golden sunset.

1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's beautiful, I mean in a grizzly way. It

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:11.360
<v Speaker 1>is so beautiful. And one thing that's pointed out in

1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the sor I'm going to do one more of these. Well,

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:17.200
<v Speaker 1>something that's pointed out in the original picture is that

1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:21.040
<v Speaker 1>this is like a swordsman that is of comparable ability

1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to a gami, but he has the sun to his back,

1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and therefore he has an advantage and will probably prevail.

1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:36.440
<v Speaker 1>But Ogami, via the cub and his mirror, turns his

1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 1>advantage into a disadvantage by reflecting the sunlight back into

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:40.680
<v Speaker 1>his eyes.

1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:43.400
<v Speaker 3>That does make more sense of it, because this part

1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, well, he's just like cutting the slicing

1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:49.080
<v Speaker 3>through everybody, like butter, Why is this guy such a challenge,

1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:51.400
<v Speaker 3>But it would make sense if we know something about

1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:54.000
<v Speaker 3>him and that he has an advantage on the Yeah,

1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:57.000
<v Speaker 3>though they do show the sun. They don't talk about it,

1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:59.640
<v Speaker 3>but they do show the sun being low and in

1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:01.320
<v Speaker 3>his face. Yeah.

1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Either way, even if you don't know all those details,

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it is another super stylistically violent execution.

1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So this scene fades back into a scene of

1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:14.000
<v Speaker 3>lone wolf and Cub at a campfire in the wilderness,

1:02:14.360 --> 1:02:17.640
<v Speaker 3>and the camera slowly pulls back from them as father

1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 3>turns his head. And then on the soundtrack they had

1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:24.840
<v Speaker 3>to add this in we get a guttural, animalistic growl.

1:02:25.080 --> 1:02:31.640
<v Speaker 3>It's a wolf growling, probably just a dog right. Yeah, anyway,

1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:34.480
<v Speaker 3>here the introductory I would say this is the part

1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:37.280
<v Speaker 3>where the introductory part of the movie gives way to

1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:40.600
<v Speaker 3>the main plot. Though, as we said earlier, the idea

1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:44.160
<v Speaker 3>that this movie has a plot, it's very loose. Basically,

1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:46.960
<v Speaker 3>the plot is the father wanders the country pushing his

1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:49.680
<v Speaker 3>son in a wooden cart. They stop at places where

1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:52.560
<v Speaker 3>the father can take contracts. He works as an assassin,

1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and he makes money. He makes money to live this way,

1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.080
<v Speaker 3>but he doesn't seem to really want to become rich

1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:01.440
<v Speaker 3>or like find a way out. He sort of seems

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<v Speaker 3>to squander the money he makes. From what I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell, Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>like he's I mean, he has no future, Like his

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<v Speaker 1>son is the only future that matters, and he will

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<v Speaker 1>do everything for him, but like he has lost all honor.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a wandering ronan. What is he going to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this money except, you know, pay for the next

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<v Speaker 1>night's sleep, pay for the next bath, and so forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, meanwhile, the shogun keeps hiring new ninjas and assassins

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<v Speaker 3>to send after him and his son, so we follow

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<v Speaker 3>several episodes of that where assassins are sent after them.

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<v Speaker 3>The main mission of this film, especially in the second half,

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<v Speaker 3>is a job that the Lone Wolf takes from a

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<v Speaker 3>group of locals asking him to kill a lord Kirou.

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<v Speaker 3>The Shogun's cruel brother who is oppressing them. But Lord

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<v Speaker 3>Kirou is guarded by three ninja brothers known as the

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<v Speaker 3>Masters of Death, whom we mentioned earlier. Kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>visual inspiration clearly, or at least part of the the

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<v Speaker 3>DNA that inspired the three storms from a big trouble

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<v Speaker 3>in Little China, the large wide hats, the specialized weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>and the deadly auras.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they do just cut everyone to ribbons when

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<v Speaker 1>they jump into action. The Masters of Death are awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so the final showdown at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie will be the Father versus the three Masters

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<v Speaker 3>of Death in a scene in the desert. Strangely, I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of wondering where that's supposed to take place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never been to any of these, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are a few different sand dunes in Japan, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure which one we're looking at here, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've seen it pop up in a few different

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese films and TV shows over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, I guess we've sort of sketched the general

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<v Speaker 3>outline of the plot, but maybe we can talk about

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<v Speaker 3>a few scenes that we just wanted to explore in

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of detail. One that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>mention is closer to the beginning, and it's the scene

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<v Speaker 3>where a lone wolf and cub visit a bath house

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<v Speaker 3>in town. Because so Digoro is explaining in the narration

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<v Speaker 3>that visiting a town is dangerous because they don't fit

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<v Speaker 3>in and the shogun's ninja are everywhere. But then he says,

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<v Speaker 3>but sometimes you have to take a chance if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to take a bath. So they go to this

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<v Speaker 3>bath house and the manager tries to turn them away,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that they are penniless beggars. But then lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>flashes his wad of gold. He doesn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>he like, gets it out of the cart, and the

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<v Speaker 3>guy changes his tune. He eagerly goes to wash Digoro's feet,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Digoro kicks water in the guy's face. And

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<v Speaker 3>I like this scene because of the little moments of

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<v Speaker 3>the child almost playing, like the way he stomps around

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<v Speaker 3>in the tub. It's clear that for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>his life there is very little room for play, but

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<v Speaker 3>here you get to see him play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these little moments of play, they're very effective here,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've of course been very effective in the Man Laurian,

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<v Speaker 1>very much copying this blueprint. You know, the cuteness of

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<v Speaker 1>the child, the baby Yoda, the Grogu, you know, very

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<v Speaker 1>much patterned on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also there's a moment here at the so they're

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<v Speaker 3>like taking a bath. They're soaking in this big wash

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<v Speaker 3>tub and it's supposed to be relaxing. You see the

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<v Speaker 3>steam rising and they're kind of reclined. But there's an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting moment where like the camera pulls back and reveals

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<v Speaker 3>the father's arm is draped outside the tub and he's

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<v Speaker 3>like gripping his sword. And there's never any attack in

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<v Speaker 3>this scene. It's just that this is who he must be.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ogami can never truly rest. He always has his

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<v Speaker 1>sword at his side, and in a moment that peace

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<v Speaker 1>can disappear.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there are more plots, Like there's a theme

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<v Speaker 3>established that Lone Wolf's enemies want to take his son

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<v Speaker 3>away from him. They think this will take away his power,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there's one plot to steal de Gooro, and

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<v Speaker 3>this leads to a fight scene in a river where

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<v Speaker 3>these guys come and say, like, where is your son.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to take him, and then the father goes

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<v Speaker 3>to fight them, and then it's discovered that they're like

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<v Speaker 3>hiding armor underneath their clothing, but he fights them anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>and it turns into like a final duel between him

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the lords who opposes him. Standing in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of a river at the base of this

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say waterfall, but I think it

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<v Speaker 3>might actually be a kind of a man made like

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<v Speaker 3>spillway sort of thing, and Lone Wolf wins this fight

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<v Speaker 3>by hiding his blade beneath the water before he turns

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<v Speaker 3>to move it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we get another like super stylistic kill here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also after this duel is just the Shogun's just

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<v Speaker 3>standing on a bridge over the water like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>will get you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep the dream of an encounter occurring with the

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<v Speaker 1>showgun alive, though it's again it's not gonna happen, not

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<v Speaker 1>in this film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. There's another great scene, which is the scene of

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<v Speaker 3>recruiting the ninja win. So one of the bad guys

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is Lord Kouragawa working for the Shogun.

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<v Speaker 3>He meets with a woman who calls herself the Supreme Ninja.

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<v Speaker 3>The Supreme Ninja. She commands an army of women who

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<v Speaker 3>are all themselves Ninja warriors and the lord shows up

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<v Speaker 3>to task them with destroying Lone Wolf and cub but

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<v Speaker 3>she well, first of all, she they tell her that

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<v Speaker 3>he fought a duel with the Shogun's air, and she says,

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<v Speaker 3>what was the outcome of the duel? And he says terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Supreme Ninja offers the Shogun's emissary a demonstration

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<v Speaker 3>of her of the prowess of her lady warriors. So

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, show me your strongest man, and this silent

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<v Speaker 3>fighter and a brown cloak and a conical hat comes forward.

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<v Speaker 3>We learned this is Juni, the strongest fighter of I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's Lord Kuragawa here. And so the Supreme Ninja

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<v Speaker 3>addresses Junin ands says, okay, you've got to try to

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<v Speaker 3>find a way to escape from this room. But like

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<v Speaker 3>as she says this, her women are gathering around him,

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<v Speaker 3>and things are about to go very poorly for Junei.

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<v Speaker 3>He tries to escape using a grappling hook in the rafters.

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<v Speaker 3>He throws it up to the ceiling and swing out

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<v Speaker 3>of the chamber, but the women cut the rope, they

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<v Speaker 3>rip off his cloak, they pull swords out of their dresses,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they just run around slicing pieces off of

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<v Speaker 3>this dude one at a time. So, like we see

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<v Speaker 3>his fingers hit the floor and then the skin from

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<v Speaker 3>his face falls down to the floor like a rubber mask.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's rough. They cut him into a lot of pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this scene is so grizzly and wonderful. They just

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<v Speaker 1>systematically take him apart, reducing him to a limbless, faceless

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<v Speaker 1>husk that like rolls across the floor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's nothing left to do but dispatch him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Supreme Ninja says, this is your best man.

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<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf would swallow him and then begin the most

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<v Speaker 3>deranged Harley Quinn laughter. It goes on for a long

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<v Speaker 3>time and stops quite suddenly, and she's calm and she says,

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<v Speaker 3>my women will execute him.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically this lays the groundwork for the next trio

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<v Speaker 1>of sequences, as the has three different groups of the

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<v Speaker 1>female Ninja's attempt to take out Lone Wolf and cut Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So so first, well, this is outside. They're on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually they're pushing the cart between Dikon fields and I

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<v Speaker 3>like how at the Dikon Fields the women are like

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<v Speaker 3>down in the stream washing the Dikon in the water,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's this creepy scarecrow with this like wide eyed

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<v Speaker 3>face drawn on its headsack. It's interesting environmental details. But actually,

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<v Speaker 3>before they get to the Dikon fields, there's an ambush

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<v Speaker 3>by traveling entertainers on the road side. And I thought

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<v Speaker 3>this was funny because in our in our Ninja episode,

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about some classic story of Ninja running

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<v Speaker 3>around and spying by pretending to be traveling entertainers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a perfect cover.

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<v Speaker 3>So in this case, the father and son go by

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<v Speaker 3>and the entertainers are they're like dancers or acrobats of

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<v Speaker 3>some kind. They're jumping around, cart wheeling and somersaulting and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever these people are. They I think they somehow hypnotize

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<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf with the spinning patterns on their clothing as

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<v Speaker 3>they spin around. So it gets very strawberry alarm clock

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute here. But of course these are really

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja's assassins in disguise, and they try to

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<v Speaker 3>launch a sneak attack, but Lone Wolf is too quick,

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<v Speaker 3>even though he was briefly hypnotized by the clothing. His

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<v Speaker 3>sword flashes and they are done. And this is the

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<v Speaker 3>scene where Diegero starts counting the dead Ninja. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he says, I try to count them so I can

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<v Speaker 3>pray for their souls. Father tells me not to count them,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have to to know how many to pray for.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think he says, they're up to three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty five, Ninja.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite a count.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So then we get to the attack at the

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<v Speaker 3>Dikon fields. So they're like going down the road in

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<v Speaker 3>the cart and these women come up in different waves,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the first wave of women throws these flying killer

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<v Speaker 3>hats with blades on them, the blades on the brim,

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<v Speaker 3>and Lone Wolf fights them off, kills them, and then

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<v Speaker 3>there are the next wave has knives hidden inside the Dikon, which, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>The dicons are like piercing the cart and all and

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<v Speaker 1>oh and I have to mention in the the original

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<v Speaker 1>the second Lone Wolf picture, when they're preparing the dicons

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<v Speaker 1>by the river, they're singing a little song and the

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics are something like, what's the side dish for tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's dicon. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, there there are these little a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>little tricks and secrets and reveals in this fight scene

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<v Speaker 3>like secret knives popping out of the baby carriage, and

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<v Speaker 3>our protagonists fight through it all until they get to

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja. She herself comes out to UH to

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<v Speaker 3>administer the final attack on Lone Wolf here, which she

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<v Speaker 3>does with a net.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, she nets him. The net prevents him from

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<v Speaker 1>immediately being able to draw his sword, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>he does eventually draw his sword, but they engage in

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<v Speaker 1>this short, intense close combat sword fight where it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that they're pretty evenly matched, and we get to see

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<v Speaker 1>her effectively pull off that sword clap shinkin Shihadori maneuver

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<v Speaker 1>against Ogami, clapping his sword blade before it can hit her,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she even does the twist and sends him

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<v Speaker 1>a sprawling So it's a fun little like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>evenly matched, you know, very close confines battle here, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it gets kind of looney tunes right at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>like they sort of fight to a draw, but when

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<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf is finally ready to like land a sword

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<v Speaker 3>blow on her, he like hits her, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually hit her. She avoids it by jumping out of

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<v Speaker 3>her clothes. She's not naked she's like still wearing some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of full body stalking, but just lee gives her

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<v Speaker 3>original clothes standing there and leaps up in the air

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<v Speaker 3>out of them, lands in a field nearby, and then

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<v Speaker 3>starts fast motion running backwards as if the tape were

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<v Speaker 3>in reverse up a hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh my god, this outcome is so wild. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stress enough how bonkers it is. I think looney

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<v Speaker 1>tunes is the right word, because it's not like she

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<v Speaker 1>peels out of her clothing in a realistic manner. It

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<v Speaker 1>is like her outer garments are a jet fighter and

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<v Speaker 1>she has ejected from them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and then runs like a spring snake in the can.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a spring snake. And then the running backwards. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the idea is, like you, she can't lose sight

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<v Speaker 1>of her opponent something, so yeah, she's just running backwards

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't take her eyes off of lone Wolf for

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<v Speaker 1>quite a while, like at least a half a mile

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<v Speaker 1>running backwards across the field. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>But she's going really fast, so we don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>watch her go, you know, normal normal speed to a

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<v Speaker 3>half mile.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just sort of like looks at her. He

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<v Speaker 1>just watches it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that trick before well matched. Then they also

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<v Speaker 3>have to fight some more ninja in the woods. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a more I don't know. There's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>guys in the in the hats again and in this

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<v Speaker 3>fight they use the cart as a weapon, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>got blades that come out the sides and chop all

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<v Speaker 3>the ninja's legs off. But after all this we come

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<v Speaker 3>to the part I mentioned this near the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the episode. We come to the part where Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>is injured and this leads to a sequence where the

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<v Speaker 3>boy has to take care of his father, like his

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<v Speaker 3>father is hiding in this little hut, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned the scene earlier of the boy trying to bring

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<v Speaker 3>him water from the river and he ends up having

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<v Speaker 3>to carry it in his mouth. But there also he

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<v Speaker 3>goes looking for food and he finds a food offering

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<v Speaker 3>at a shrine, but then he and he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>take it, but he doesn't want to be disrespectful, so

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<v Speaker 3>he leaves an offering of his own in its place.

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<v Speaker 3>He takes off some of his clothing and leaves it

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<v Speaker 3>at the shrine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a very sweet section and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we have that great Digoro's theme playing and yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>see him, you know, bring water and then food back

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<v Speaker 1>to Ogami as Ogami lays, perhaps dying we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, but helping him to recuperate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>This leads to the part where Dikoro gets kidnapped to

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja and the Shogun's Lord. They decide, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to steal him to steal the Lone Wolf's power.

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<v Speaker 3>So they take Digo away and they lure the Lone

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<v Speaker 3>Wolf out to find them in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 3>and he finds them standing around a well where Digoro

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<v Speaker 3>is suspended by a rope over the opening to the well.

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<v Speaker 3>How's lone Wolf going to get out of this one? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>So I think there's a clever little thing that I

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<v Speaker 3>missed the first time around, but I was rewatching the

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<v Speaker 3>scene and I realized what it was. So he says

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<v Speaker 3>something to Digoro and then Digoro kicks his sandal off

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<v Speaker 3>and it falls down the well, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>is letting the father know how long the drop is,

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<v Speaker 3>like the timing of the drop, because what happens is

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<v Speaker 3>he draws his sword and he quickly slashes a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of the bad guys and then stomps on the rope

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<v Speaker 3>as Digoro is falling to stop him from falling, to

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<v Speaker 3>stop him before he hits the water at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this is another thing where it's I mean,

1:17:37.160 --> 1:17:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the editing here is tight and effective. In the original film,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe more instantly make sense what's happening, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you still get the sense of it here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So he slashes all of his enemies here except

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<v Speaker 3>for the Supreme Ninja who's just standing there watching, but

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<v Speaker 3>she does not attack, and neither does Lone Wolf, and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of regard each other, and then will freeze

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<v Speaker 3>his son and they walk away, and Daigo says in

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<v Speaker 3>the narration, that was the first time I ever saw

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<v Speaker 3>my father's spare an enemy, So I think there's some

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<v Speaker 3>mutual respect.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, and we'll come back to this character again too.

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<v Speaker 1>But from here we kind of proceed into mostly dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Masters of Death.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a long sequence on a boat. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>we need to go into all the details of the

1:18:27.160 --> 1:18:29.240
<v Speaker 3>boat journey and the fight on the boat, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>like rebels who are fighting against someone and the Masters

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<v Speaker 3>of Death mess them up on a boat. There's eventually

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<v Speaker 3>a fire and everybody has to jump off the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and after the everyone has to jump off the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I think where we eventually get this sequence

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<v Speaker 1>where the Supreme Ninja, Lone Wolf, and Cob meet up

1:18:48.000 --> 1:18:53.920
<v Speaker 1>again and they're all wet and cold and they huddle

1:18:54.000 --> 1:18:57.040
<v Speaker 1>together for warmth, which is a scene where you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know where this scene is going at first. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this going to be like some sort of you know,

1:19:00.840 --> 1:19:04.800
<v Speaker 1>just pure exploitation moment, But it ends up being quite

1:19:04.880 --> 1:19:07.040
<v Speaker 1>sweet in its own way. Like, I mean, there's these

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<v Speaker 1>three lost individuals huddling for warmth against in a dark world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, it's complex there because so he doesn't harm

1:19:15.120 --> 1:19:18.200
<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja and she doesn't want to harm him anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>but she has to go away and he knows that

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<v Speaker 3>that means her death when she goes back to the

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<v Speaker 3>Shogun to like report what has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's bittersweet. And this is of course another

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<v Speaker 1>thing where this is a little more complex and nuanced

1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:34.519
<v Speaker 1>in the second film, but we get a nice, you know,

1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 1>edited down version of it here. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately spare us nothing of the violence inflicted by and

1:19:42.880 --> 1:19:45.120
<v Speaker 1>upon the Masters of Death. All of that makes it

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<v Speaker 1>to the finished picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah. So the final conflict in the film

1:19:49.640 --> 1:19:53.799
<v Speaker 3>is we get the Masters of Death leading their person

1:19:53.840 --> 1:19:56.439
<v Speaker 3>they're serving as a bodyguard for in this sort of

1:19:56.520 --> 1:19:59.200
<v Speaker 3>caravan through the desert. They're going up and down these

1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:03.839
<v Speaker 3>sand dune and then suddenly there is an attack first,

1:20:03.880 --> 1:20:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I think by some rebels against this group, and the

1:20:07.200 --> 1:20:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Masters of Death just chop them up. They don't do well.

1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Are these the ones that they're initially hiding under the

1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:16.599
<v Speaker 1>sand to pop up and get the Masters of Death?

1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:18.439
<v Speaker 1>The Masters of Death are just like stabbing them in

1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the sand.

1:20:19.320 --> 1:20:20.479
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of dune yeah.

1:20:20.720 --> 1:20:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:20:21.640 --> 1:20:24.479
<v Speaker 3>But this finally leads to the Masters of Death must

1:20:24.520 --> 1:20:27.839
<v Speaker 3>face off against Lone Wolf. And I mentioned this earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>but in this part the music infuses it with such vigor.

1:20:33.240 --> 1:20:37.840
<v Speaker 3>There is this relentless synthesizer vamp and a high lead

1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:42.680
<v Speaker 3>over this galloping drum beat. It's really good. Like the

1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:46.200
<v Speaker 3>movie itself, I think pre dates this convention in video games,

1:20:46.200 --> 1:20:49.200
<v Speaker 3>but it feels like boss music. It's like in Mega Man.

1:20:49.280 --> 1:20:52.479
<v Speaker 3>It's the kind of music that kicks in in Mega

1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Man when you like enter the chamber to fight Spark

1:20:55.439 --> 1:20:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Mandrol don't you know what I mean, Like it's like

1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it picks up the tempo and it's like really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get your blood pumping now.

1:21:03.720 --> 1:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it is pretty relentless. At the end of

1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, we know this can only go down one way.

1:21:10.840 --> 1:21:14.160
<v Speaker 1>They may be Masters of Death, but they are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out on top against ogami Eto. His

1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:21.400
<v Speaker 1>his skill and his heart is just too powerful for

1:21:21.479 --> 1:21:26.120
<v Speaker 1>them to overcome. So he stylishly defeats one of the

1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:28.640
<v Speaker 1>three brothers, then the other of the three brothers, and

1:21:28.680 --> 1:21:32.519
<v Speaker 1>finally it's a he's squaring off with the final of

1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the Masters of Death. This is the guy with the claws. Claws, yeah, yeah,

1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know they have a nice back and forth

1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:44.559
<v Speaker 1>and then ultimately Lone Wolf cuts him on the neck

1:21:44.760 --> 1:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>with this like perfect cut. That and the spray, the

1:21:48.960 --> 1:21:52.440
<v Speaker 1>arterial spray out of this cut is like a fine mist.

1:21:53.120 --> 1:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>This part of the of the film. This is another

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<v Speaker 1>like just super weird, great moment and it's like this

1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Serene Erotics's of death, a cut so perfect that one's

1:22:03.120 --> 1:22:05.360
<v Speaker 1>life blood leaves the body in a kind of like

1:22:05.520 --> 1:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>high pressure howling mist like a dream. Such a cut

1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>as like the ultimate aspiration of any killer, and oh

1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the irony. The master of death himself dies by this

1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:19.679
<v Speaker 1>cut without ever getting to inflict its perfection himself.

1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a line in the film where they're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about about like the sound of a winter wind blowing

1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:27.200
<v Speaker 3>or something.

1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he says, I have the quote here when cut

1:22:30.080 --> 1:22:33.120
<v Speaker 1>across the neck, a sound like wailing winter winds is heard.

1:22:33.160 --> 1:22:36.360
<v Speaker 1>They say, I'd always hope to cut someone like that someday,

1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to hear that sound, but to have it happen to

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<v Speaker 1>my own neck is ridiculous.

1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous, It's wonderful. But doesn't he also say something like

1:22:46.600 --> 1:22:48.679
<v Speaker 3>He's like, it was an honor to have been killed

1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:48.960
<v Speaker 3>by you.

1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:49.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because again, if you want to have your neck sliced,

1:22:53.840 --> 1:22:55.479
<v Speaker 1>this is the guy you want doing it. You want

1:22:55.560 --> 1:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you want it in the hands of a master.

1:22:57.600 --> 1:22:57.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh.

1:22:57.880 --> 1:22:59.920
<v Speaker 3>But then we also do, in a kind of anti

1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:04.400
<v Speaker 3>climactic way, we get to see a lone wolf doing

1:23:04.439 --> 1:23:07.559
<v Speaker 3>a grizzly finish to his contract, and then the movie's

1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:08.200
<v Speaker 3>just kind of over.

1:23:08.720 --> 1:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, we get like one final line from the boy.

1:23:13.439 --> 1:23:15.559
<v Speaker 1>He says, what I guess, I wish it was different,

1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>But a wish is only a wish.

1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:19.360
<v Speaker 3>No, justice for the Showgun.

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<v Speaker 1>No again, if if you were attracted to this film

1:23:22.880 --> 1:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>because you thought a showgun was going to be assassinated, No,

1:23:25.960 --> 1:23:30.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen. And the character that is labeled the showgun

1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:32.679
<v Speaker 1>he also does not get his come upance in this film.

1:23:32.720 --> 1:23:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I think it ultimately happens later on in the series,

1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but played by a different actor. Yeah, but now I

1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of want to finish that journey. I'm gonna have to,

1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, in my own time, go through the next

1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>four of these pictures. I enjoy the first two, and

1:23:48.080 --> 1:23:49.719
<v Speaker 1>of course Showgun Assassin so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that sounds great. I might have to check him

1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:52.360
<v Speaker 3>out too.

1:23:52.840 --> 1:23:55.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a fun ride, a demon ride to hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hey, but one last thought. I think I said

1:23:59.080 --> 1:24:01.800
<v Speaker 3>this earlier, but even if you don't watch this movie,

1:24:01.840 --> 1:24:04.360
<v Speaker 3>which you know it's a hyper violent kind of thing,

1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>it might not be your style. And that's fine. I

1:24:06.840 --> 1:24:09.360
<v Speaker 3>would recommend checking out the soundtrack if you can. The

1:24:09.439 --> 1:24:13.120
<v Speaker 3>music is great, especially if you love synthesizer stuff.

1:24:13.439 --> 1:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely to a terrific score. But I have to warn

1:24:16.240 --> 1:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you the score, it may suck you in. The next thing,

1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're watching Showgun Assassin, then you're watching the

1:24:21.240 --> 1:24:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Lone Wolf and Cub series. That's how it gets started.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, this was a lot of fun. I'd

1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>love to hear from everyone out there. I know we

1:24:29.080 --> 1:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>have listeners who are very well acquainted with the Lone

1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Wolf and Cub series and are more familiar with Samurai

1:24:37.200 --> 1:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and Ninja pictures than we are, So hey, write in.

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1:24:41.560 --> 1:24:44.680
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1:24:49.800 --> 1:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>but of course it is considered legendary in its own right.

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<v Speaker 3>Has it been a year since I Come in Peace?

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<v Speaker 1>It has?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That was That was our Christmas action film from last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't it that one had Christmas music in it? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was Christmas was more a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>texture of the picture then some people give it credit.

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