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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, there's Chuck.

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Speaker 1: It's just the two of us. But we're here with

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Speaker 1: a horse named Charlie a k A crippling temporary leg cramp.

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Speaker 1: You know what I immediately think of when I think

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Speaker 1: like cramps? Now right? Remember round up? That's right. You

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Speaker 1: totally got one of these, didn't you? Like whow we

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Speaker 1: were recording? Yeah, it's on video everyone. If you want

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Speaker 1: to go look up one of our internet roundups. I

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Speaker 1: wish I could remember which one. Maybe I'll should you

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Speaker 1: should suffer through all of them to try and find it,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta just out of nowhere, like cramping. It

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Speaker 1: was so funny that we were like, all right, we

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Speaker 1: should just leave that in there. We have to keep it.

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Speaker 1: I think I demanded that we keep it, and that

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Speaker 1: was just just so great. Yeah, which is weird. I

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Speaker 1: don't cramp up like that much, so it was very

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Speaker 1: much out of nowhere. Um, I don't know what happened. Well, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: you could have been over age fifty at the time. No,

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Speaker 1: you might have been hydrated maybe, but I drink a

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Speaker 1: lot of water. Perhaps you've been sitting too long without moving.

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Speaker 1: There's always a chance of that, or standing too long

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Speaker 1: on a hard surface, probably not a chance of that.

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Speaker 1: Or you could have been sleeping in your brain may

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Speaker 1: have misdirected your leg to move, confusing your leg resulting

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Speaker 1: in a cramp. So those are some risk factors for

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Speaker 1: getting a Charlie horse. But before we explain what a

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Speaker 1: Charlie horse says, we should talk about the origin of

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Speaker 1: the word. Do you did you read about this? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a word that is very much American. You won't

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Speaker 1: hear that word in England apparently. And there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of different stories that I saw, maybe more than

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Speaker 1: that even but in the late eighteen hundreds in baseball,

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Speaker 1: one story said that there was a lame horse named

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Speaker 1: Charlie and it said it pulled the roller at the

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Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox ballpark. I'm not sure what that means. Um,

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Speaker 1: probably whatever flattened out the dirt. Maybe that's what That's

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking. That's all I can come up with.

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Speaker 1: There may be the thing that the hot dog spin

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Speaker 1: on as they're cooking. I'm not sure what's the other story.

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Speaker 1: The other one is that Charlie Radborn who was a

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Speaker 1: picture you mean old hoss, Old Hoss was another name

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Speaker 1: of his knee. I looked him up. He's the greatest

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Speaker 1: picture of all time based on the r A. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: he was also a terrible person, Um, Lobster Boy asked,

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Speaker 1: From what I can tell, Uh, no murder involved, I

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Speaker 1: don't think. But he apparently got a Charlie horse in

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Speaker 1: a baseball game in the in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: baseball game. He played for Providence in Boston mostly um,

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Speaker 1: and it's possible that it was named after him in

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Speaker 1: that significant event. Yeah, what I've always heard of Charlie

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Speaker 1: horse was, or how I've always used it, was not

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Speaker 1: just a leg cramp, but it was when you got

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Speaker 1: punched in the thigh or something, or or nie somebody

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Speaker 1: in the thigh and you would give someone a Charlie Horse,

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Speaker 1: and you had to say Charlie horse, as if they

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening. Don't freak out, you're not

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Speaker 1: imagining things. I just gave you a Charlie horse. And

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Speaker 1: this is called having the wind knocked out of you.

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Speaker 1: So the yeah, but it does seem to um. It

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Speaker 1: leg muscle, and usually it's your thigh muscle. Your calf

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Speaker 1: muscle or your hamstring is where you get a Charlie horse.

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Speaker 1: But as you also know, I didn't touch you that

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Speaker 1: came out of the blue. So Charlie horses. It's different

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Speaker 1: from dehydration or a loss of electro lights from sweating

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Speaker 1: to me is that medical science is like, no, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Here's some best guesses, but we're not sure.

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Speaker 1: Have you what did you used to do? The thing

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Speaker 1: called frogging someone? Yeah, that's it's essentially the same things

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Speaker 1: champion pencil breaker though, No, I don't remember pencil breaking.

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Speaker 1: What was that? Oh, you guys didn't do that? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: wasn't very good. You know. There was always the one

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Speaker 1: Is that another Encyclopedia Brown reference? I think, so maybe

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Speaker 1: we should take a break. Yeah, then we can go

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Speaker 1: solve an Encyclopedia Brown crime and then come back and

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Speaker 1: talk more about Charlie horses. All right, Well, now we're

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Speaker 1: on the road, driving in your truck. Want to learn

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Speaker 1: a thing or two from Josh Damn Chuck. It's stuff

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Speaker 1: you should know, all right, Okay, So Charlie horse, leg cramp,

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Speaker 1: so you can get a Charlie horse at night when

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Speaker 1: you're sleeping. It's called a nocturnal leg cramp, and just

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Speaker 1: or it can be a few minutes. I can't imagine,

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Speaker 1: But in I think both cases they don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: can actually solve both cases if you get Charlie horses

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Speaker 1: limber and stretch your back muscles too. Yeah, it's all

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Speaker 1: about keeping those muscles lumber. YEA, let's do it, chuck.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's commit to stretching at least five nights a week. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so uh the other thing you have virtual Pinkie swear.

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Speaker 1: You're a chump. You're a sucker. You're just a stump.

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Speaker 1: You know you're a chump. You're a chucker. Oh, speaking

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Speaker 1: of Charlie, I called you Charlie on an email I

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Speaker 1: It just blew my mind. Why you're not a Charlie.

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Speaker 1: You're a chuck. But the idea that it's almost like

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Speaker 1: the life of a Charlie, but you went the life

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Speaker 1: Will you call me Charles sometimes though totally different from Charlie,

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Speaker 1: Oh did you have a little pencil than mustache? Too?

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Speaker 1: You were nothing but turtlenecks, Charlie horses. I think we're done. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you got anything else about Charlie horses? Sir? Are you

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Speaker 1: having one right now? I'm not. Well. That's good. Then.

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