1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly here 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: with the Matt Williamson. It is a lovely Wednesday. Yeah, 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: beautiful day and Matt Steelers on the field again today 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: getting ready for the game on Saturday against the Detroit Lions. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: And Russell Wilson speaking to the media today and saying, Hey, 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: I expect to not only start, I expect to play 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: in this game. I expect to start this game. We're 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: all gonna play. 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So you speculated that on Monday, and I thought 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: it made all the sense in the world, especially the offense. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's they need to get some continuity go 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: and they need to start putting first downs together, stringing 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: some successful stuff along the one that I don't know 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: or I'm not sure if they even brought it up, 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: but I don't know if that played nausey, you know, 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: I mean I think that or maybe a series, you know, 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: just because of the war. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: You can play him, but just don't necessarily use him. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: Hey, you don't have to hand them ball. Yeah, I mean, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: he could be out there. There's a way to avoid 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: contact with him, just don't handle the football. But I 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: would imagine, like see them all who plays, right, I 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: mean you think the whole group. I mean everyone else 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: I would imagine needs to be out there. Yeah, at 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: least offensively. 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: And this brings me to a tweet today Matt by 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: aery Myrov, who does stuff for the thirty third team. 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: He's there quote quote yeah yeah, NFL Insider read did 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: stuff before. So he tweets out breaking the Broncos have 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: named go Nickster week win starting quarterback. 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, all right, that's news. Sure. 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: He then later tweets out, as attached to that one, 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: the Steelers with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields and the 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: Patriots with Jacoby Brissett and Drake May are the last 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: two teams to yet officially name a week Win starting quarterback. Okay, well, 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that that necessarily is truth. Have the 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: Bills named the starting quarterback? Right? 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: Right? Right? I don't think it's ever you'd know better 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: than me, but it's never come out of Mike tomlins 43 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: mouth that Russell Wilson is the start. 44 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: He just consistently said that Russ is in pole position. Yeah, 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: but I'll say this, so. 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: He's first on the depth chart too the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: When the Steelers acquired Russell Wilson, the reason Kenny Pickett 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: is not on this team is because Kenny Pickett was 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: told Russell Wilson is going to be in pole position. Yeah, 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: which means he's ahead of you on the depth chart. 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Fields wouldn't even be an the equation right now. 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Sure if Kenny Pickett handles that better. 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that all adds up. And that's exactly how 55 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: that went down, right. 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: So to now think that somehow Justin Fields is going 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: to hop him, the Steelers would not have made that trade. 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: And I'm sure when he was acquired, he was it 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: was known that he was told, you're not in pole position, 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: Russell's in pole position. 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's changed with that. 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: No, So that doesn't shock you or I at all. 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that at some point he will 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: make the official announcement this is our week one starting quarterback. 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: Never had to do it with Ben right, you know, 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean, but he's new. I mean, Atlanta's not going 67 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: to do it with Cousins either. I mean that's a could. 68 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess yeah. 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Because Cousins hasn't played it all in the preseason, they 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: use the first round draft pick on a quarterback. They 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: come out and said Kirk Cousins is the flying. 72 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: Quarter with them out there, you know, because maybe there's 73 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of uncertainty, especially with his injury because 74 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: he hasn't even played. But it's gonna be. 75 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: As Minnesota said, Sam Darnold is our starting quarterback. 76 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. I have no clue. I mean, the 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: Patriots one I think is real, but they might be 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: saying we've known for set all along. Yeah, I mean 79 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: I've assumed it was going to be for set. That's 80 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: the thing. You know. 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: First of all, it doesn't serve Tomlin any purpose at 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: this point to come out and say, yeah, Russell, like 83 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: three weeks ago, why would he say, Russell Wilson's our starter. Yeah, 84 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: you want to continue to get the best out of 85 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Justin Fields on a wink on a day to day basis. 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: Right, and nobody needs to know there's not there's not 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: a requirement. The NFL is not making you do it right. 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: You have to put out a depth chart. 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Starts a depth chart here's a depth chart and says, 90 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's number one. 91 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm sure he's been asked directly, 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: is Russell Wilson You're starting quarterback? And he probably hasn't 93 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: said yes or no. He's not necessarily been asked, is 94 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: that Okay? Basically it's you know, it's Russ still the 95 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: guy or whatever things. 96 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: He's in pole position. 97 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Nothing's changed, Okay, nothing's changed. He is a starter. He's 98 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: a starter. I mean, anyone goes to practice knows, he says. Right. 99 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: The speculation that continues to take place among the national media, 100 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: but the Steelers quarterback competition, right right, right, it just 101 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: boggles my mind. There's no so much to the people 102 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: who are actually feed on the ground, boots on the ground. 103 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of you guys, you know what 104 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: I mean, and nobody could possibly consistently saying yeah, yeah. 105 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: And you would think the national world has caught up 106 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: to that by now that this is not a competition. 107 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: I mean it's not. I mean, maybe Field sees the 108 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: field even in week one, I mean that's a different story. 109 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean Taysom Hill was competing with Drew Brees. 110 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: No, just I keep seeing this, you know, Steelers quarterback competition. 111 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: I've never viewed it as a competition. 112 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: No, No, I really haven't either. I think Fields is 113 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: really intriguing. There's number two quarterbacks around the league. Go, 114 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: I'm as psyched about him as any. But he's the 115 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: number two quarterback, you know what I mean. I mean, 116 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: that's why he was, how he was brought in, everything 117 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 3: you mentioned, you know, the way that all that went down. 118 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: If it was Russell Wilson and Kenny Pickett right now, 119 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: would people be calling this a quarterback competition because it 120 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: very easily could have been Russell Wilson and Kenny Pickett, And. 121 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: I would assume no, yeah, yeah, I mean I assume 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: people be like Pickett got demoted to back up, and 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: because there's somebody better, they got here, you know, yeah, yeah. 124 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean the timeline is they acquired Russell Wilson, called 125 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and said, hey, Kenny, we're getting We're going 126 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: to sign Russell Wilson. He's going to be put it 127 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: starter right. 128 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: He's going to act as the number one from here 129 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: on O. 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: I said, well, then trade me. I don't want to 131 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: be demoted, And they went and made the trade Picket 132 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: and then traded for Russell Wilson first traded for Justin Fields. 133 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's pretty obvious, right right right, follow 134 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: the dots there for Yeah, there's not much to it. 135 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: And then it's not like they went and got Fields 136 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: first and then said, oh hey, let's sign Wilson as well. 137 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure part of it is, well, Wilson wasn't out 138 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: there practice in week one. He can take the first 139 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: snap in training camp, blah blah blah blah blah. Well 140 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: he wasn't healthy, you know, he hit a calf. You know. 141 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: So in a lot of times I thought it was 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 3: just people writing stuff to write stuff early in camp. 143 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: Boy Fields is really tearing it up and he's making 144 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: progress and he's you know, he's he's nipping on Wilson's heels, 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: who hasn't been able to do anything. I didn't see 146 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 3: it that way. I mean I didn't. 147 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: Every time, you know, one of the assistant coaches or 148 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Tomlin or Arthur Smith or whoever, would would praise Justin Fields. Yeah, well, look, 149 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: the Steelers really like him, they can like him, but 150 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: they're not going to come out and even if they didn't, 151 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: they're not going to come out and say, well, he 152 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: really looks like crap out there. No, we're just not 153 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: happy with that trade at all. 154 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: That never happens. No, I think they're happy with the acquisition. Yeah. 155 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: I don't think they look at him like he's a superstar. 156 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: He gives a lot of work to do, and I 157 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: think that shows up on the field too. I mean, 158 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: I saw this the other day. I know it's preseason, 159 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: but average time to throw Fields is the highest of 160 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: Eddie quarterback in the preseason, you know, And that's been 161 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: his problem, you know. I mean, it needs to come 162 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: out on time. You need to be crisper. And if 163 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: you watch Wilson, it's night and day in that regard, 164 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: you know. I mean the way the play's drawn up, 165 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: throwing with anticipation, backfoot hits, ball comes out one's way 166 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: further along than the other. 167 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that doesn't mean I don't like Justin Fields. 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: I don't think he can't be a good quarterback. 169 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: Look at the I'm really intrigued to them. 170 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: Look at the career interception percentages, it's career turnover percentages. 171 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: Look at Mike Tomlin's recent history, and then tell me 172 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: who you think he's going to go with. 173 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: A quarterback right right? And do you think Wilson came here? 174 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: I mean with his track record, like I might end 175 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: up being a backup. We'll see, Yeah, to fall on 176 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: his face, I like, you don't, you don't. I mean 177 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: he chose the Steelers, right, I mean he right, he chose. 178 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: He could be the quarterback of the New York Giants right. 179 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: Now, right. And for what he's making to sign with 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: the Vikings, I mean for one point two million, he 181 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: could sign with the Chiefs. Yeah, you know what I mean, 182 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: like a super Bowl, right, everybody could afford him. He 183 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: could go be a backup to ten quarterbacks out there 184 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: and not even be close to the competition, you know 185 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: what I mean. He chose to go to a team 186 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: he could play. I mean, that's why he's here. That's 187 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: why he's here. That's why. And one last thing on this. 188 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: When he became a free agent, Cam Hayward make a 189 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick T. J. Watt All called him and tried to 190 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: recruit him to come here. You think they did that, Hey, Russ, 191 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: come here and be the backup, right right, Come be 192 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: come here and here and compete for a job. 193 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: We might try someone or you know, Kenny might beat 194 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: you out or at that point, I mean, yeah, he 195 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: was still a team, or maybe they'll bring back Rudolph 196 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: and he'll unseat you, like no, come here and. 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Be this honestly to me, that's one of the reasons 198 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: why Kenny Pickett I think wanted out of here. Yeah, 199 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: because when you find out, you think because his teammates, 200 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: guys in your locker room are recruiting another quarterback. To me, 201 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: if I'm in that situation, and that's the one, that's 202 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: the one thing that I look at with Picket and say, 203 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: I kind of give him a pass for. 204 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: That's a lot of people react like he's a baby, 205 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: can't handle competition, blah blah blah. Who do you think 206 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: he is? 207 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if your leaders of the team went went 208 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: and recruited another quarterback, yeah, I would say. 209 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: You know what, they don't think. 210 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: They don't think I'm the guy. 211 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: They don't think I'm the guy. I don't have their confidence, 212 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, And and I would understand it. Then 213 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 3: then it gets awkward too, you know, like you have 214 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: to do an awful lot to get that back right. 215 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: And frankly, he hasn't played well for the Eagles, but hey, 216 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: I wish him the best. I mean, like, I hope 217 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: it works out for him, But I like where the 218 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: quarterback room's at a lot better than I did last year. Yeah. 219 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, But this idea that somehow Russell Wilson is is, 220 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: you know, needs to show something in this final preseason 221 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: game against the Lions or he's not going to be 222 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: the starter on opening game. 223 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: Actually, I think he could play one series, throw a 224 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: pick and it'd be the starter in Week one. Yeah 225 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, get sacked three times and throw 226 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: a pick. Well, I think if that happened, he'd probably 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: play another series, play another series, right, do you think 228 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: they play a lot? 229 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,239 Speaker 2: Tomlins said on Tuesday that he treats this third preseason 230 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: game like it's a normal third preseason game, okay, and 231 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: there's just not a fourth game. The fourth game is 232 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: a bye. You weren't going to play your starters in 233 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: that game anyways, But this is the dress rehearsal for him. 234 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: That would kind of add up. I mean, the way 235 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: they treated Week one was a lot like old week ones. Yeah. 236 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: Week two was more but not all, not all, but 237 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: it was you know, not four string quarterbacks and those 238 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: guys out there much, you know, so you're doing more 239 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: and you know, yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, and 240 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: then there just isn't the fourth Yeah yeah right, And 241 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: frankly the fourth was always for those bottom of the 242 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: roster du Yeah, but you probably know who you're keeping 243 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: and who you get, don't. I mean, there's thirty easy cuts. 244 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: Do we really need to play them one more day 245 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: or play them Saturday? 246 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: The thing figuring out now is who's your nickel corner? 247 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: Who are those some special teamers made. 248 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: Special team guys things of that nature, which is, you know, 249 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 2: maybe only you're only gonna keep one of the two 250 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: young cornerbacks, which one? 251 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: Is it gonna be? Things like that, like I would 252 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: bet Danny Smith has several requests for I really need 253 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 3: to see more of Watts on kickoff or whatever it is. 254 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: You know, whatever these this week since Beanie Bishop didn't 255 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: play last week, maybe this week your gunners or Watson Bishop? 256 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, Okay, you know, like, let's see I 257 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: need more live reps of those guys. I don't know 258 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: how this works, but I've always speculated that in the 259 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: special teams world, we know Hayward and you know Killer 260 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: Brew and those guys are all making the team. There's 261 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: four or five of them that are core special teamers 262 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: that are making the team. But my hunches again, I 263 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: just speculated this that Kevin Colbert, Omar Kahn, Mike Tomlin 264 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: go to Danny and say, here's ten dudes that might 265 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: make our team. Rank them one to ten, how valuable 266 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: they are at us. 267 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: It would be a smart way to do it. 268 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: I'd be a great way to do it. Yeah, And 269 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: then he ends up with one, two, six, and seven. Yeah, 270 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: and the other guys just don't do enough onun because 271 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: you're prioritizing position. 272 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that nature coming to play as well. Yeah, but 273 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: you go to him with say give me give me 274 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: one through ten. 275 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, these guys have a chance regardless of position. Now, 276 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't care, I'll value are they to you? You know? 277 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: And and so that's what's ties. Or you'd love to 278 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: give you the top two, but three, four and five 279 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: just aren't good enough at football, you know what I mean. 280 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: Then we can't give you those guys. Maybe that's Fitzpatrick 281 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: or who whatever. You know, he's not a good enough 282 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: receiver to keep them, you know. But I think that's 283 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: a good way to do it. 284 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So sounds like we're going to see the starters. Good, 285 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: don't know if that's going to be all the starters. 286 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: We'll find out tomorrow. Mike Tomlin will talk uh after practice, 287 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: I believe tomorrow. 288 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: What's your hunch on? Like Watton Hayward, I. 289 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: Would say, if they play, it would only be like 290 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: a series. 291 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean I would you leave it up 292 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: to them, even I'd love to get out there and 293 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 3: play one series. I think i'd just hide their helmets. 294 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: I mean those two in particular, Maybehi Smith gets out there, 295 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: Mink is off the ball a little bit more. 296 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can kind of manage me a little bit, 297 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: just say, hey, you're deep, you're deep safety. 298 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: Here, deep safety. You don't need to take on Derek 299 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: Henry head to head or whatever, you know, because. 300 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 2: If you remember it was the h it was the 301 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: preseason game against the Lions a couple of years ago 302 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: when Watt got hurt. 303 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's the lasting you 304 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: know that, Yeah, right, absolutely. And then there's always those 305 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: dudes that if it were week one, they would play, 306 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: but they got something, you know, you probably sit them. 307 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know who that would be. Off 308 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 3: the top of my head, but maybe you guys have 309 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: got hurt. Certainly Warren's not gonna. 310 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: Play, No, he's Yeah, thom has already said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 311 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: I will say about Jayleen Warren, though I don't think 312 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: people saying, well, this could linger into the regular season. 313 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be an issue with him. 314 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked, you laid it out pretty well yesterday, and. 315 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: He's pretty pretty Yeah. He's a guy that played through 316 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: a severely torn hamstring his entire senior year in high school. 317 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: It sounded more severe than this torn. 318 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've seen him walking around and stuff. 319 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: He's he's fine. Talk to Rouman, Wilson did it. He's 320 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: not going to play this week. He's still not practicing yet, 321 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: but says he's been able to do a lot of 322 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, take the mental reps. Sit in the classroom. 323 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: He says, Look, I've I'm watching the coaching moments and 324 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: what guys are getting yelled at about. And he said, 325 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: it's not me getting yelled at about it, but but 326 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: if somebody else, if I see somebody make a mistake, 327 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: well now I know not to do that. So he's 328 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: learning that's valuable. 329 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So assuming he doesn't end up on a list, 330 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: which seems probably unlikely. If he's close, he's going to 331 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: make the team. He started round pick and he did 332 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: nothing to hurt his chances. It's not the strongest position either. 333 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: Is the active Week one? I would think not. I 334 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: would have to see what practice looks like. 335 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, heading up to that. 336 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean he'd have to really be. 337 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: He can't most any practices leading. 338 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: Up to that, correct, right, I mean from cutdate to 339 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: week one, he's gonna start. 340 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: You out there the whole time, like basically starting next week, 341 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: he probably should be on the field if possible. 342 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even if they're like giving him written 343 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: tests or all the board work he's acing, he'd still 344 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: like to see him out there running routes against NFL 345 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: players or you know, yeah, absolutely where you trust him. 346 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 347 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lollie. 348 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,479 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 349 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. 350 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 351 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 352 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 353 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson, 354 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: and Matt one of our favorite draft guys. Dame Brugler 355 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: of the Athletic has put out his initial top fifty 356 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: yeah for the upcoming college football season, with that right 357 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: around the corner that starts up soon enough here. 358 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah right, people just started watching college ball, start looking 359 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: for who the next prospects with the guys are. Yeah. Yeah. 360 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: So Dane did position by position leading up to this, 361 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: and then he put out his final like top fifty 362 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: to get rolling, and seems pretty defensive heavy. Yeah. 363 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: As he points out here, thirteen of his first twenty 364 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: guys are defensive players. Five quarterbacks did make the initial 365 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: top fifty cut. 366 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: I saw, including number fifty. Yeah, so let's go through it. 367 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: I need to learn these names and start watching college 368 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: football here coming up soon right late right weekend? Right, Yeah. 369 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: First guy on the list, number one, cornerback Will Johnson 370 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: of Michigan. 371 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: Michigan Ohio State are really well represented this year. I mean, 372 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: I know Ohio State is maybe in line to beat 373 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: the record for most guys drafted, but Michigan's got some 374 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: real top talent too. Yeah. 375 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: Number two on here is edge rusher Abdul Carter out 376 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: of Penn State. So a heavy Big Ten. There's a 377 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: lot of Big ten eighty seven teams in the Big Ten. 378 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Now they still can't. 379 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: Count true, that's true the Big Ten. Yeah, but he's 380 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: wearing number eleven. It's a big deal since LeVar and 381 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: you know, Parsons and those guys. And when I saw 382 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: his name originally most people had him like twenty thirty. 383 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: Now there's a couple of people like Dane that think 384 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: he's an elite prospect at this point. 385 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 2: Number three. I don't know if you count him as 386 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: a offensive player or defensive player. 387 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Travis. 388 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: Hunter from Colorado. 389 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really interesting player and that he's a 390 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: corner and a receiver, super dynamic, five star recruit type 391 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: guy I've never I don't know what to think about that. 392 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: I'm good. Does every team view it differently? Well, maybe 393 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: he played both ways. I don't know. 394 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: I've talked to some people in the league. Yeah, who 395 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: think he can play both ways and you play both ways? Wow, 396 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: that's crazy. It's a lot. 397 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: It's a lot, right, right, But he does the Colorado Yeah. 398 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: Number four, another defensive guy, defensive tackle Mason Graham, of Michigan. 399 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people have him one. You know, 400 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 3: he's a big time prospect. 401 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that might be the case. Is the big 402 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: body guys. Sure, the planet theory comes into play if. 403 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: There's not a quarterback to take it one. The tackles 404 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: as good as spot as any Yeah, number five. There 405 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 3: do seem like there's a lot of good d tackles. Yeah. 406 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 3: I mean they could subject to change, of course people, 407 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: but I think the Steers can be in the defense 408 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: tackle market. 409 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: James Pierce another edge rusher. 410 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: He's the longer out of Tennessee. Yeah, longer, athletic super tools, 411 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: the type guy. 412 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: It's just so in this thing, and you sent me 413 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: this off. The Athletic Dane has pictures already of these 414 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: guys in there and stuff. It just looks weird seeing 415 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: edge rusher's wearing twenty seven or eleven. 416 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is strange. 417 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you spill able to tell what position a guy 418 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: was based on the number he wore. I know now 419 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: you can't tell. 420 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: You can't tell him number. 421 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: Six wide receiver to Teria McMillan. 422 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: He's the big kid from Arizona, right, see. 423 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: His name linked to the Steelers in a lot of 424 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: early mock drafts. 425 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: By the sounds of it, Seiers have to be pretty 426 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: bad to get him. He's like the Mike Evans body type. 427 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, six, five, two, ten. 428 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: Then folks are supposed to be good receiver draft. 429 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: Had ninety catches last year and he's so he's a 430 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: high volume guys. 431 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, uh number what do we on here? Seven? 432 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: Luther Burden, another wide receiver. He's out of Missouri five 433 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: eleven to ten. 434 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: I get like Jamar Chase vibes with him, you know, 435 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: a little bit thicker, more compact, physical, explosive by the 436 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: sound of it. Again, I'm not experts on any of 437 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: these dudes. Those two are going to be in a 438 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: pretty good battle to be wide receiver one, and maybe 439 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: just want the tall guy or the you know, defends after. 440 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, number eight, that would be the first quarterback. It 441 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: is Carson Beck of Georgia. 442 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: Okay, won a lot of games. I mean, I think 443 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: he's not incredibly toolsy, like I don't think he's Caleb 444 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: Williams in terms of improv stuff, but runs the offense. 445 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: From what I gather. 446 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: The interesting thing about him he isn't transferred anywhere. 447 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that never happens, right right, A lot of these 448 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: guys will be on second and even third schools. 449 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: Number nine Malachi Starks, safety out of Georgia. 450 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: From what I understand, rare safety prospect, Like if he's 451 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: being considered in the top ten, he's a Kyle Hamilton 452 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: Derwin James type minka, you know, coming out of school 453 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: type player that really changes games. 454 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: Number ten LSU offensive tackle Will Campbell. 455 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I've seen him in the first over all discussion 456 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: in some of these like way too early mock drafts 457 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: and tackles go high. 458 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: Number eleven Notre Dame cornerback Benjamin Morrison. 459 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: See the one that has really good height and length. 460 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: That's he likes six two ish. 461 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: He's six and eighty six pounds. 462 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I thought he was taller than that, but yeah, 463 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: he's on all the lists. It's up high too. 464 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: Number twelve another cornerback, this one from East Carolina, Chavon Revel. 465 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know much about him other than just 466 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: seeing his name. Six three pound cornerback Okay, East Carolina, 467 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: big enough to ride to ride Jailah. 468 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: Number thirteen another offensive tackle when the other off. Both 469 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: offensive tackles from LSU. Yeah, Emrie Jones the offense other 470 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: offensive tackle from LSU. 471 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: I've heard some say this guy might have the more upside, 472 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: might be the better tester. He's just his tape isn't 473 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: as solid yet. Number fourteen General has had some guys 474 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: around him. Line had some dude yea, some decent receivers 475 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: and two first round tackles. 476 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: Another edge sure, this one out of Georgia, Michel Williams 477 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: sixty five to sixty five. 478 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: I think in typical Georgia fashion, he's a little more 479 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: athlete than player at this point. You know, big physical, 480 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 3: going to test through the roof, but not as consistent 481 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: down to down. 482 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: At fifteen, Dame Brugler has Kelvin Banks, junior offensive tackle 483 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: out of Texas. 484 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's another guy I know a little bit about. 485 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: I think he's only sixty four though, I mean he's 486 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 3: under six y five, and if they're listening him at that, 487 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: he may be sixty four. 488 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: Even although he's got really long arms. 489 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: Hes got really long armed. Yeah, right, so that will 490 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: be the discussion with him. 491 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm just looking here at the photo that Dane has 492 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: of him. 493 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: Does it look crazy? 494 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: His arms look like they're longer than his legs. 495 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always listed as a tackle. Yeah, like where 496 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 3: Skronsky wasn't. 497 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 498 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Number sixteen Ohio State's Tayleek Williams six two three twenty two. 499 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: He's de tackled. He tackle. Yeah, Okay, I did I 500 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 3: know the but I there's a lot of Ohio Staters. 501 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't know that any of them projected like top 502 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: ten though. 503 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: Number seventeen, we're going to Kentucky for this one, Dion 504 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: Walker uh sixty six, three hundred and fifty pound defensive tackle. 505 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: It seems like we hear this every year. You know, 506 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: like Sweat is a better pass rusher than Jordan Davis. 507 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: But this guy is supposedly a better pass rusher than 508 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: those two giants that have been drafted pretty highly. 509 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Just looking at the photos here, he's a little soft 510 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: in the middle. 511 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet he's I've seen pictures of him. Two 512 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: three fifties generated might Yeah. 513 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: Number eighteen quarterback from Colorado, Schador Sanders. 514 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: I think people look at him like he's because he's 515 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: Delon's kid, superstar athlete. He really isn't as athletic as 516 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 3: you think. He's not a superb runner. 517 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 518 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: Nineteen another edge rusher out of Texas A and M. 519 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: That is Nick Scourton. I think it's his first year 520 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: at A and M. Yeah, he was a Purdue last Yeah. 521 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, a really good year. 522 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: Twenty A linebacker out of LSU. LSU got some dude. 523 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: This is a weird guy. Yeah. 524 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: Harold Perkins junior, six foot two fifteen that's line. 525 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: What's crazy about it is they call him half people 526 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: call him an edge because he is a high sacked dude. 527 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: He is a demon as a pass rusher off the edge, 528 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: but he's doing fifteen pounds. 529 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: They've had some dudes like that, including Patrick Queen. Yeah, 530 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: the undersized guy. I was looking up some stuff on Queen. 531 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: When Queen was going coming out of high school, a 532 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: lot of people thought he was a cornerback. 533 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: Really wow, he moves that well. 534 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: He's six foot two hundred and five pounds, like, okay, 535 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: is he a strong safety? 536 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: He ran four to four at that point too. I 537 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: mean yeah, but this guy's going to be a projection 538 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: slash outlier. But he's good at football. 539 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: At twenty one Colston Loveland tight end in Michigan. 540 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: Okay, most people seem to have him as the clear 541 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: one tight end. Yeah, not Bowers level, but you know at. 542 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: Twenty two, Arizona's Jonah Siavania offensive lineman, offensive lineman, guard 543 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: interior offensive line five three thirty. 544 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: I think he's a big, wide bodied guy. 545 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 546 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: Twenty three another quarterback, Texas's Quinn at viewers six two 547 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: to two ten. 548 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: He's been the recruit in Ohio State to Texas and 549 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: all that stuff. Now watching the receivers, I wasn't blown 550 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: away by him, but now there's there's talent there. 551 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: Twenty four another quarterback from Texas A and M Connor Wegman. 552 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: He's the one that most intrigues me from what I've 553 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: seen six three two fifteen. He's athletic and toolsey and 554 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: you know he may have a higher ceiling than the 555 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: guys we brought up. At twenty five. A running back 556 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: from Boise State. 557 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: A lot of running backs. 558 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Ashton genty yeah, ive eight two seventeen Ohio State. 559 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: It's got one that most people have ahead of. I 560 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: think it's Gend. I'm not positive, but there's three or 561 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: four that are getting first round bug. Yeah, I think so. 562 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: I haven't watched any Boise State No. 563 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: I just heard a podcast there calling him Gend. Okay. 564 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: At twenty six, another offensive tackle, this one from Minnesota, 565 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: ariante Ursery. 566 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: Is he a giant? 567 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: He is six six, three thirty seven. 568 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew it wasn't like. 569 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: Size. 570 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: But he's a big, thick guy. 571 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh. 572 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: At twenty seven, edge rusher J. T. Tamalaio out of 573 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: Ohio State. 574 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: He's been on the list for a while. People thought 575 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: he might have came out last year. 576 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he would. 577 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 578 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 2: He was the one that the Penn State offensive tackle just. 579 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 3: Kids up time. 580 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: Couldn't block it, right, couldn't block him last year. 581 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: I think a lot of those Pen Ohio Staters wanted 582 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: to come back together and try to win this thing, 583 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: you know. 584 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: Twenty eight another linebacker out of Utah. 585 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 3: Utah puts out some defensive guys. Yeah, yeah, that would 586 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: be Lander Barton. Don't know anything about him. Sixty three 587 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: to two thirty three. Okay, Lenton defensive player from Ohio 588 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: or Utah though, I like that part. 589 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: You know, he's tough. Twenty nine edge rusher out of 590 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: Florida State. That would be Patrick Payton sixty five two 591 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: fifty five. 592 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: Okay, we're getting a neighborhood. But I don't know a 593 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: ton about these dudes, but I'm going to read up 594 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: on them. 595 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: At thirty another defensive tackle from Michigan. That would be 596 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant six three three forty. 597 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: I say he's kind of round, like he's a not 598 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: Casey Hampton round, but I mean like thick and more 599 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: nosiesh they have two defenseive tackles are probably go in 600 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: the first round. 601 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 602 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: At thirty one, Mansord de launy uh, cornerback out of 603 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. 604 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: Okay, don't know much about him, the sizey guy too. 605 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: Six okay. Yeah. 606 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: At thirty two, another cornerback out of Kentucky. That would 607 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: be Maxwell Harston. He's sixty one, one eighty Okay. I'm 608 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: liking that a lot of corners are top fiftieth right now. 609 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: I think the Steelers could be in that mark who knows. 610 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: At thirty three, Ohio State receiver amiica Ibuka. 611 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: He's been on lists forever. Yeah. Unfortunately he gets compared 612 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: to Harrison and a lave In Wilson and he seems 613 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: like a step below those guys. But borderline first rounder 614 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: from what I understand. 615 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 616 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Thirty four another Ohio State guy, cornerback Denzel Burke. 617 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he's had a good career there. 618 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 619 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: At thirty five, Oklahoma State running back Oli Gordon Okay. 620 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: Ohio State also has a back, and again, there's a 621 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: handful of these that are really big time prospects. It 622 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: sounds like. 623 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: At thirty six another running back, North Carolina's omari In 624 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: Hampton six foot two nineteen say. 625 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: I think he's bigger and plays really physical too, like 626 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: it might be a name we're talking about. 627 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 628 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: At thirty seven, Stamford has a guy elk iomnor Hit 629 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: six foot two hundred and ten pound wide receiver. 630 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: He's a wide yeah, yeah, I'm wondering. Stanford also has 631 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: a tight end that is kind of wide receiver. Ish, 632 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if that's him or not. Maybe they 633 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: have two pass catchers six two two ten Yeah, that 634 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: doesn't sound tight endish. 635 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: At thirty eight, linebacker Danny Stutsman out of Oklahoma. 636 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: Six four to two forty Okay, that's a big linebacker. 637 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: That's a big linebacker. 638 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if he has edge potential. 639 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: At thirty nine, edge rusher Landon Jackson out of Arkansas 640 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: six five two seventy one. 641 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a couple of big edges yeah, that aren't 642 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: just the two hundred and fifty speedball guys. 643 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: While we're talking about that, on that subject to the 644 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: steel is what the Steelers are looking for in those 645 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: edge guys, because typically it's been the guys who are 646 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: the six five sixty six, you know, the taller guys. 647 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: Do you look at a guy like this guy An 648 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: lsu transfer Landon Jackson. You look at them and say, okay, 649 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: he's six five to seventy one right now, we can 650 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: get him up to two eighty five to ninety and 651 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: so on the edge. 652 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: Of the three. 653 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: I never thought that three four. 654 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: I never thought to be interested in Leo. Yeah, you know, 655 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: like I don't think Dick LeBeau wanted to Leo, you 656 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean, he didn't quite fit. He's not 657 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: a three to four end. But I think that they're realizing, 658 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: not realizing, just changing their tune on what they look for. 659 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: You're asking them to do different things. They're doing a 660 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: lot of different stuff. You have two gapping as much, 661 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: you're not. 662 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: Their noses don't look like Steed in Hampton anymore. The 663 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: Russian past, Yeah, and have some versatility. They move them 664 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: up and down the line. Whether you're half end, half 665 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: outside linebacker, or half nose half end. You know, I 666 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: think that it's I'm almost certain, like and I think 667 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: you'd tell you if he was sitting here, that Kevin 668 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: Colbert had a rule like you had to be six 669 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: four and a half x amount of arm length to 670 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: be a three to four end for them. Yeah, and 671 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: they rarely strayed from that. I think they straight from 672 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: it now. Yeah. 673 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: Getting back to Dame Brugler's list. Here of the top 674 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: fifty players in his initial rankings. Number forty linebacker Jaylon 675 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: Walker out of Georgia sixty five. 676 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: Okay, another big guy. Now these linebackers, I wonder can 677 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: they walk down and play on the ball. 678 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: At forty one, another cornerback. That would be Jahade Burn 679 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: out of Texas. 680 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm starting to not know this neighborhood rule. 681 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: Well. 682 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: At forty two, linebacker Barrett Carter out of Clemson six 683 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: foot two, thirty four. 684 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: Okay, he's been on lists for a long time too. Yeah, 685 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: they've turned out a lot of linebackers lately. 686 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: At forty three out of Texas, I'm guessing he's a 687 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: Alabama transfer because. 688 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: He's a Bondah Isaiah Bond yeah, speed speed, speed five eleven, 689 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: kind of going to take over the Worthy rule. 690 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: At forty four. Another defensive tackle. That would be Walter 691 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Nolan out of Ole, miss He's sixty three, three hundred pounds. 692 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: I think he was like a five star recruits type 693 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: of the guy that's landed in Mississippi but could have 694 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: gone anywhere. 695 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we started the Texas A and M. Yeah, this 696 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: guy was the number two recruit in the country behind 697 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: Travis Hunner. 698 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: So gotcha. 699 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: At forty five. Edge rusher Jack Sawyer out of Ohio 700 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: State again six four to two seventy one. 701 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: Big physical ends. Yeah, that both those Ohio State guys 702 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: are thick. He could have came out last year too. 703 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: He's been on the list for a while. 704 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: At forty six. Florida State defensive tackle Darryl Jackson junior 705 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: six five, three thirty. 706 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 3: Okay, don't know much about him, but I like there's 707 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: a lot of d tackles. 708 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: He looks a little different than the other guys. Really 709 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: doesn't look quite as soft in the middle. 710 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: He's a little longer, athletic, looking like a Buckinger type 711 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: head guy. 712 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Initially signed with Maryland in twenty twenty one, then moved 713 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: back home, joined Miami in twenty twenty two, transferred to 714 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: Florida State last year, so he's. 715 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: Only three on a little bit. Yeah. 716 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: At forty seven Miami wide receiver Sam Brown. 717 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Six okay, I think he's also a speeds of transfer out. 718 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: Of Houston apparently. 719 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 720 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: At forty eight, another wide receiver, this one from Oklahoma. 721 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: That is Dion Burks five ten one ninety five. 722 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know much about him. 723 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: And then forty nine is yet another wide receiver. How 724 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: bought that? 725 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: M hm? 726 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: That would be Evan Stewart of Oregon six foot one 727 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: seventy five. I see him here wearing a Texas A 728 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: and m helmet. 729 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: Deel Okay, yeah, he think he transferred to be the 730 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: new Troy Franklin. Yeah, the skinny ear type guy Franklin 731 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: struggling with Denver right now? Yeah? 732 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 733 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: And then finally number fifty, I think people might know 734 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: this guy, quarterback Drew Aller out of Penn State six ' four, 735 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: two thirty. I'm not a fan. 736 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: If you watched enough, yeah, you're not that big on him. 737 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: I have not watched enough, but I get Hackenberg vibes, like, yeah, all. 738 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 2: I kept hearing from Christian Hackenberg people. Yeah, well he's 739 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: going to be really good. He's gonna be I'm like when, 740 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: when when's that gonna happen? 741 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And Alan Rainson was his best friend at Penn 742 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: State when Alan Robinson's a stud you know. So, yeah, 743 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 3: this guy, I've heard a lot of levis who started 744 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: at Penn State like he looks apart with a lot 745 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: of inconsistencies there. I'm sure a lot of our listeners 746 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: know more about him than I do. 747 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I just want to and I get 748 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: he threw like one interception last year, really, but it's 749 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: just it was the ugliest one interception season. I think, 750 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: like it wasn't either put up numbers against bad teams. 751 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: I got, you didn't put up numbers when they played 752 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: good competition. 753 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 3: And State it's got a lot of dudes this year too. Yeah, 754 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: David tight End, I know it's coming out supposed to 755 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: be good, and yeah they have a lot on defense. 756 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that just seems to be Penn State's m 757 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, they beat up on the bad teams 758 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: and then when they play a good team, they get beat. 759 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: They get beat. Yeah, I mean they're clearly behind Ohio State, Michigan. 760 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe soon some others in that conference. Again, the 761 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: twenty seven behind it. I mean, they got ridiculous a 762 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: number of teams and it's just changed football. 763 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: The other thing is it's always been somewhat true, But 764 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 3: I think, can we read these lists, like three years 765 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: from now, they're all gonna be from like two schools, 766 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: you know, Like I mean that the rich schools are 767 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 3: going to have all the prospects, like the East Carolina kid. 768 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: I was shocked that they even had one of those, you. 769 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, because those guys transfer now because the nil 770 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: money go to Georgia. 771 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go there. 772 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: And make five hundred thousand dollars this year. 773 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: I guess Georgia. I was listening to stuff that they 774 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: have a tight end that played next to Bowers. It's 775 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: probably going to get drafted. They got the best tight 776 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: end in the country, and they got the best tight 777 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: end in the transfer portal, you know, and they just 778 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: graduated Washington and Bauers, you know, over the last two years. 779 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's insane. 780 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I don't I don't like it. I 781 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: don't like what it's done to college football either. I 782 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 2: like the intrigue of turning on a game and saying, Okay, 783 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: who's going to win this game? 784 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you know, I like the idea of recruiting 785 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: and developing talent, and well there's that, you know, young 786 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 3: men that stay with air the whole time. And I 787 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 3: don't blame the kids at all. 788 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 2: I just know, if somebody's offering you more money, you 789 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: got to take the more money, right. I just think 790 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: college football's completely screwed this up. 791 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I look at a team like pitt 792 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 3: where I used to work, and as a local, it's 793 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: like they're so far they're not a bad program at all, 794 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: but they're so far from competing with you don't have 795 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: the money on the money, right, I mean, some of 796 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: these schools just have too much money. 797 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it would be like having an NFL where 798 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: half the teams in the league are working with a 799 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: different salary cap than the other. 800 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: Oh, it's like worse than baseball. Yeah, I mean it 801 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: really is. I mean, at least baseball. It's again, I 802 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 3: could talk NFL. There's been a couple times in baseball history, 803 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: like all the Indians prospects come at the right time, 804 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 3: or the Marlins all. 805 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: Hit at the right time because there's a draft. Because 806 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: there's a draft, Yeah, you have to hit. They have 807 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: to stay with those teams. In this instance, nobody has 808 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: to stay anywhere. And there's no salary cap. So whoever 809 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: has the most money you're gonna win. 810 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean we got to know Rob King obviously 811 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: a lot, and he's been on the show a ton, 812 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: and he knows baseball way better than I do. But 813 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 3: he said, maybe this Pirates team, if they add two 814 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: or three more people, they all develop together. Well they 815 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: wouldn't if Georgia comes and steals Paul Skiings you know 816 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: what I mean, like money. Yeah, it's exactly what would happen. 817 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just hate it. 818 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: I hate it. It's terrible. Yeah. Yeah. 819 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: And that's not old man screaming at the clouds. That's 820 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: come on. 821 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: Right right right, Yeah, I mean I have a lot 822 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: of problem with it. It's definitely changed the scouting community 823 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 3: at time. 824 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: Well there's no I mean now at this point you're 825 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: just like, why would I bother going to scout school B. 826 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 3: But there's schools people don't even go in anymore. You 827 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 3: don't need to. 828 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 2: You don't need to because all their good guys are 829 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: transferring somewhere, I. 830 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 3: Will end up all at the same place. Yeah, so 831 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: what are you doing? Yeah, I mean, and it's not 832 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: even like when the U was the U. I mean, 833 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: like Miami was a hotbread. They got kids, grew up 834 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: as a Miami fan. Yeah, you know, watching Ed Reid, 835 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 3: so Taylor went there or whatever. Yeah, and that's different 836 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: to me. I mean, that's Bama being their team. Some 837 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: of these teams being powerhouses growing up that way great. 838 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: But just the fact that you can go buy people is. 839 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 2: And I don't know that the players benefit nearly as much. 840 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 2: We've talked about this before. You mentioned the Georgia guys. 841 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: They're better athletes right now than they are football players. 842 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 843 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: And some of that's because they can be because they've 844 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: got they don't play every studs everywhere. 845 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, like what was the knock on 846 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: Jordan Davis? He plays for the Snaps, Well, Pitt, he 847 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: played eighty percent of the Snaps, you know what I mean. 848 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: There's something sometimes to be said for being the big 849 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: guy in the small pond. 850 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 851 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: And Aaron Donald and dominating, yeah, exactly as opposed to 852 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 2: being Jordan Davis. And while we think he might be good, 853 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: but we're not sure because. 854 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: Jalen Carter's behind him next year and he's better, and 855 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: you know, he. 856 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: Plays twenty five snaps a game, and. 857 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 3: He played next to Win who was also a first 858 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: round pick. I mean, like, it's insanity not picking on 859 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: Georgia and this isn't even but a lot of those 860 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: guys haven't translated the pros all that well. 861 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: And I think part of that's because, yeah, there's a 862 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: reason for that, because they had They never had to 863 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: be the guy. 864 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: They're always fresh, especially I'm mostly thinking front seven and 865 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: d Lineman type guys. You know, they're always fresh. They're 866 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: the best athletes on the field. I mean, I'm sure 867 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: when they played Bama or a couple other big time schools, 868 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 3: it's a challenge, of course, but that of offensive lineman's 869 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 3: been out there seventy snaps and you've played twenty, well, 870 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: you should have the advantage of the fourth corps. 871 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: You think you would think we're overdue for a break. 872 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: Let's get to that. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. 873 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Audio Network. 874 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: That was Dane Brugler's top fifty for the upcoming college 875 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: football Seaton maybe next. 876 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 3: Year' Jeff, we'll see. 877 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 2: We'll keep that around and see how how much that changes. 878 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 3: I think sometimes he brings it back out, like, Man, 879 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 3: was I wrong on this guy? Yeah, he had a 880 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: terrible year. He got hurt. 881 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 2: It happens. 882 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely absolute jackted him. 883 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: Now. 884 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 2: It's crazy, Yeah, really hard to do it. 885 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 3: And I just want to know you watch whenever the 886 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: game's on casually on Saturday. 887 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeh, that might give you a little bit of an idea. 888 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: And he was going to get their break. We'll be 889 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 890 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 891 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 892 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 893 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is 894 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. This is to drive on the Steelers 895 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: Audio Network and Matt some news out of Cleveland training 896 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 2: camp and. 897 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 3: Not real mud. You just told me. I was a 898 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: little shocked. 899 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: First, running back Pierre Strong loaded into an ambulance after 900 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 2: injury at Brown's practice. Apparently some kind of rib issue 901 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: for him. 902 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 3: You hope it's not lung or something. 903 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you worry about. 904 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 3: With it. 905 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 2: With that, With that situation, Denzel Ward remains in concussion 906 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: protocol for the Browns after his fifth known concussion. 907 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: I didn't realize he had that many head injuries in 908 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 3: the past. I mean, he's a smaller guy that plays hard, 909 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: but this is a big man's game. I mean, you 910 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: stick your face in there over and over, you get 911 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: banged around a little bit more. Really good player, they 912 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 3: I mean, they have really good corners, but he's super important. 913 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 3: And that's that's scary too. Five of them, five of them. Wow, 914 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 3: So he hasn't been in a league that long. No, Right, 915 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 3: what's he FI or something like that? 916 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: All right, So that's that's troublesome. Maybe the biggest issue 917 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: for them. Deshaun Watson was scheduled to play this weekend. 918 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what everyone was looking forward to, the first. 919 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: Time he played since you know, suffering the shoulder injury, 920 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 2: undergoing surgery to repair that shoulder, and he was limited 921 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: in practice today due to general arm soreness. 922 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 3: I would hate hearing that if I was a Browns 923 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 3: fan or whatever. I mean not good. Well, I mean, 924 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 3: I still think there's a chance they're better with Winston 925 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: than him, But I mean Obviously he needs to get 926 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 3: out there. They've structured this whole offense around him. Some 927 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 3: of these injuries that everyone just assumes are going to 928 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: be fine from last year don't go away. He should 929 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: be out there by now. It seems like to me 930 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: this has been a lot. 931 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,479 Speaker 2: He just got cleared for contact like last week. 932 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: It's late in August already. Yeah, I mean, what's he 933 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: gonna be like Week one? 934 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: Stefanski. Kevin Stefanski, their head coach, had initially said the 935 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: plan was to play Watson this week against the Seahawks. 936 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: I bet he was asked about it again on Tuesday 937 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: and he hedged a little bit and then and then 938 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: declined to comment on on Watson playing on Wednesday. 939 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound they got problems. They got problems. I mean, 940 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: I know they have big offensive tackle issues as well. 941 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 3: Man Chubb is another one. I mean, they all seem 942 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 3: like they're on offense too. 943 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 2: Ward is all the offensive tackles. Yeah, you know, they're 944 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 2: just things don't look good for Cleveland. I don't love 945 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 2: where they're at. 946 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 3: I like their roster, I like how they've built the 947 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: team quarterback aside, but man, I mean, the whole, the 948 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 3: whole Watson situation is just a dark cloud. I mean, 949 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 3: it's so much money, so much he's playing games, played 950 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: twelve games two seasons, and they haven't really been hit 951 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: hard with it yet. But like if you go look 952 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: at their last couple of drafts, they don't have any 953 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: early picks that are on rookie deals anymore either, you know, 954 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 3: like everybody there they have that's good, they're paying you know, 955 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 3: like financially, it's going to be a real problem whenever 956 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 3: you don't have a twenty twenty two or twenty three 957 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 3: first round pick, second round picks to come in and 958 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 3: take over for the aging guys. 959 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And everybody talks about the you know, well, the 960 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: Steelers have a difficult schedule. Cleveland's ain't much better now, 961 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 2: Baltimore is not much better. 962 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 3: That's why I. 963 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: Kind of like Cincinnati in the division this year. 964 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: Theirs is a little kinder. 965 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 2: It's there's like sixteenth, Yeah, the other teams are all 966 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: like in the top five, yeah, right right in terms 967 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 2: of scheduled difficulty, yep. And I don't know if this 968 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: is gonna be real kind to Cleveland this year. 969 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: The thing that worries me most about Cleveland quarterback aside. 970 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 3: It's kind of like I was just hitting at is. 971 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: I think in two or three years they're gonna be 972 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 3: bad because of all the contracts. I mean, unless Watson's awesome, 973 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 3: which I don't think any of us think he could 974 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 3: be awesome at this time. I think that ship has sailed. Yeah, 975 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's even a Brown in two or 976 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 3: three years. And if they have to do the worst 977 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 3: version of Russell Wilson Denver move or you just eat 978 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 3: all that dead money and move on and draft them 979 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: one or whatever, there are other guys are gonna price 980 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 3: themselves out. Yeah, I mean they're not built for twenty 981 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: twenty six at all. No, not at all. No, I mean, 982 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 3: especially if Garrett starts to decline by then a little, or. 983 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: All those offensive linemen they're paying are going to be 984 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 2: out gone right, can't keep sorry Cooper and your expensive defense. 985 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 3: Like I don't like how they're built for way down 986 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 3: the line. 987 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have anybody waiting in the wings to 988 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: replace those guys either, because you didn't have the draft 989 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: picks and you did it to. 990 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 3: Yourself with the thought that you could win it all. Now, well, 991 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 3: not if the quarterback isn't good or on the field, 992 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 3: and he hasn't been either. 993 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: The great philosopher Juju Smith Schuster said the Browns is 994 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: the Browns and can't argue that. 995 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, I mean not because I used 996 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 3: to work there, or the Steelers rival or whatever. Doing 997 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 3: what they did for Watson. Some of the karma of 998 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me one bit, you know what I mean? Yeah, 999 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: that was That's another one, just throwing money around for 1000 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 3: a guy that's not that easy to root for. Yeah, 1001 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't care if he's in the division or not, 1002 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 3: you know. 1003 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: But hey, you know, Kevin Stefanski's won two Coach of 1004 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 2: the Year awards. Yeah, they won eleven games last year. 1005 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: That's pretty remarkable. 1006 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: They finished ahead of the Steelers for the first time 1007 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 2: in the standings since nineteen eighty nine. 1008 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 3: Did you hear this number? Somebody trading can't mention it that. 1009 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 3: I guess. There's plans now for a new stadium for 1010 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 3: Cleveland that that could be the only stadium in NFL 1011 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: history to never host a playoff game. 1012 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you that. 1013 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: Oh you told me that. Okay, I was thinking that 1014 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 3: was the sharky night that you weren't there that's why 1015 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 3: I brought it up to you. Okay, that's crazy. And 1016 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 3: my first response to that was, I can't believe that 1017 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 3: Ben was the all time quarterback leader in wins there 1018 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 3: for as long as he was any plays it once 1019 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 3: a year. Yeah, it took Baker a lot of years 1020 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 3: to get more wins. 1021 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: They even hosted a playoff game. 1022 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean. It's never been a playoff 1023 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: in the. 1024 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: Building, never hosted one, never won one there. 1025 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I mean it's crazy. There's a good chance 1026 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 3: that there's never a playoff game in that building. And 1027 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 3: it's been a long time. 1028 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, well enough long enough you should have a game then. 1029 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean better part of a couple of decades. Yeah, so. 1030 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: That's why you chase, and that's you know, yeah, again, 1031 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 2: there's they're kind of the poster child for when people 1032 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: say blow it up and go for it. Go just 1033 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 2: go for it, go for it. They're going for it, 1034 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 2: and at some point they're going to pay the price 1035 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 2: and they're going to be back to stinking again. 1036 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 3: I would think for a couple of years. For sure, 1037 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 3: they could be really good this year, but there's still 1038 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 3: that albatross. 1039 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 2: A quarter some bad karma. Yeah yeah yeah, bad stuff happening. Anyways, 1040 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 1041 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lawlie. You're listening to The Drive here 1042 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. When we come back, we're 1043 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 2: expected to be joined by a special guest. 1044 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 3: Stay to know who that is. 1045 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. You'll have to come back an hour number 1046 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 2: two of the Drive right after this