Speaker 1: Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 2: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 2: vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.
Speaker 3: These are our stories, done.
Speaker 4: Done, Hello and welcome back to That's Messed Up an
Speaker 4: SVU podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Kara and I'm Liza, and we're thrilled to bring
Speaker 2: you another episode of SVU Crimes. Guests, maybe not a guest,
Speaker 2: I don't remember anymore Feat of our Pants.
Speaker 1: Listen. We do SVU recaps, we do true crimes, we
Speaker 1: do guests. Sometimes today we don't have one. It's summer.
Speaker 1: Give us a break. People are traveling, we're busy, we're
Speaker 1: in the time machine. We're recording this closer to the
Speaker 1: beginning of July, and this is coming out at the
Speaker 1: end of July. But we hope that you still can
Speaker 1: enjoy our banter. We're going to try to make it
Speaker 1: as interesting as possible. But before we get started, let
Speaker 1: me just say we are doing a live show in
Speaker 1: two weeks at the Bell House in Brooklyn. Lisa will
Speaker 1: be back from her travels. We will be doing a
Speaker 1: new episode. We will announce the episode on our Instagram
Speaker 1: like the week before the show. So go to That's
Speaker 1: Messed Up Live dot com and get tickets to come
Speaker 1: see us at the Bell House on August fourteenth.
Speaker 2: It's going to be fun and not to instill panic,
Speaker 2: but it is a smaller venue than we are normally doing,
Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, get to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you came to and if you came
Speaker 1: to see us at Sony Hall or City Winery, we're
Speaker 1: doing a different episode, awesome different Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the Bellhouse is an awesome venue.
Speaker 1: And it's not like it's not two drink minimums, so
Speaker 1: you can just come and like grab one drink and
Speaker 1: just watch us, or grab zero drinks. It's up to you.
Speaker 3: But it's fun. It's a great venue. I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bell House is classic. It's in gowanis so yeah silly place. Yeah,
Speaker 2: come check us out. Uh but like, okay, so what's
Speaker 2: going on? You said you about something you wanted to
Speaker 2: bring up. I did, Okay, So the cut in June,
Speaker 2: this article cares so someone's so basically I was like
Speaker 2: talking to a friend about and just like that and
Speaker 2: that it's it's like hard to watch, you know.
Speaker 3: It's cringey. It's cringey, and they're.
Speaker 2: Not like grown, Like it's just weird behaviors and it's
Speaker 2: not aspirational and it's just like a little tough and
Speaker 2: they go, well fucking read this, and it's sex after
Speaker 2: sixty in sag Harbor. The boomer dating scene in the
Speaker 2: Hamptons and in Manhattan is bleak. Fortunately, I've never cared less.
Speaker 2: Candace Bushnell has written this right. It is she cares
Speaker 2: a lot. She cares a lot. She has not changed
Speaker 2: at all. It is the bleakest thing ever. But also
Speaker 2: like seventy seven year old men are like tricking women
Speaker 2: to come to their house when they've already said no
Speaker 2: multiple times and then like popping, but like trying to
Speaker 2: fuck them, like lie, like it's all the same.
Speaker 3: And basically these old dudes are like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Everyone's dead, we're hot and rich, we have nice cars,
Speaker 2: and like we don't need you and we can date
Speaker 2: forty year olds and twenty year olds and uh so
Speaker 2: it's like this weird thing but nothing's changed. But she
Speaker 2: also only like she's in her sixties and won't stand
Speaker 2: up for herself.
Speaker 3: It's like nothing, nothing is different.
Speaker 2: A dude she wanted to order her own food, and
Speaker 2: a dude goes, I'm ordering for us, and ordered for us,
Speaker 2: and she didn't like it but didn't say anything. She's
Speaker 2: trying to go home and a guy goes, let's just
Speaker 2: stop at my house. Come on, let's just stop over,
Speaker 2: let's do that seventy seven, Like nothing has changed, and
Speaker 2: she keeps changing, but she wants to be in this
Speaker 2: upper echelon. So it's like people with Lamborghini's, Like, I'm
Speaker 2: sure she can find a fulfilling relationship somewhere, but then
Speaker 2: she also keeps going like I'm fulfilled, I don't care,
Speaker 2: and then all she does is care. It's just like
Speaker 2: a really kind of wild read to be so rich
Speaker 2: through a creative pursuit like looking hot, having friends, having
Speaker 2: a social life, continuing the work you love, and still
Speaker 2: being mistreated and tricked by like old weird guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I wish this story was more about
Speaker 1: how she was just like, I'm Louie Andeles EPs and
Speaker 1: I'm fucking younger guys and I'm having the time of
Speaker 1: my life, like instead of no trying to get only
Speaker 1: with rich older men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she also continues to be like and I
Speaker 2: don't care and I don't even care, and I'm happy
Speaker 2: being me. And it's like, clearly this is no, I
Speaker 2: don't but so but they're on the apps, they're meeting people,
Speaker 2: and it was just kind of like an article.
Speaker 3: I'm trying.
Speaker 2: Let me see what I texted my friends, because that's
Speaker 2: where I put the things that bothered me the most.
Speaker 2: One like nothing has changed. She's at dinner and this
Speaker 2: is a quote. She refused to go to a restaurant
Speaker 2: because she goes, I'm still haunted, still being haunted by
Speaker 2: a restaurant twenty seven years later because of the real
Speaker 2: life Big You're you still won't go to a restaurant
Speaker 2: from twenty seven years ago because Big you had a
Speaker 2: moment there with Big is this real life?
Speaker 1: It's like really, and this is like what's wrong with
Speaker 1: show as well?
Speaker 3: You think like it's just like there's not They're no,
Speaker 3: they're not sadder. This is sadder than anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, show, but yeah, And then I just read the
Speaker 2: seventy seven year old like she's like, let's just stop
Speaker 2: and grab a joint at my place, and like I've
Speaker 2: never had a more cautionary tale. Oh when they talk
Speaker 2: about Viagara, that these dudes are just like popping pills.
Speaker 3: And like I've been seeing a.
Speaker 1: Lot of content in my feet about viagra problems. Like
Speaker 1: even a lot of younger guys are like really like
Speaker 1: addicted to it, and like women don't like it because
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, guys are just like okay, well I'm hard,
Speaker 1: like let's go. And it's like not great, you know,
Speaker 1: like and and then my friends bad that.
Speaker 2: She's like they they're not even horny, like they just
Speaker 2: think they're owed sex, so they're willing to like medicate
Speaker 2: and almost like date rate people to get what they
Speaker 2: feel is theirs. Oh yeah, And it's just and it's
Speaker 2: like also weird that you're so obsessed with being with
Speaker 2: a wealthy person and you don't need them. There's no
Speaker 2: need to actually have a transactional relationship here, like you,
Speaker 2: I don't know, can't you just meet an author?
Speaker 3: And she goes out of her way, like she's like.
Speaker 2: Well, I have to be back in the Hampton's tomorrow morning,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna hit up to Manhattan to go on
Speaker 2: one date.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of strange. It's just strange. It's strange.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of it is also the
Speaker 1: fact that this woman traffics in this like this is
Speaker 1: what her like life. This is her life and identity
Speaker 1: and she needs material, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: this is who Candice Bushnel is. You know, I would
Speaker 1: like to think that Carrie would have like not been
Speaker 1: this desperate. You know, she's supposed to be the real
Speaker 1: life Carrie or whatever, but like it is, ugh, yikes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. This feels like Ramona. I mean, Ramona's
Speaker 1: out there, you know, like doing all this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, I'm still making my way through and just
Speaker 1: like that season two, because I was here that three
Speaker 1: was bad, but I was like, I'll give it a shot,
Speaker 1: but I have to just finish, like up the last
Speaker 1: few episodes.
Speaker 3: Of two, and I'm like, yeah, and I don't know, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's a moment I'm still in che Land. I'm still
Speaker 3: in chay Land.
Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, So like I'm sorry, I'm like skimming
Speaker 2: through the cuts to make sure I give you everything.
Speaker 3: It's kind of longer than I remember.
Speaker 2: But like it's also just her being like and this
Speaker 2: guy's six foot three, which matters.
Speaker 3: Maybe it shouldn't, but it does.
Speaker 2: And it's like, bitch, you're pushing seventy, you still think six'
Speaker 2: three is still this thing that like truly matters to
Speaker 2: what you're looking.
Speaker 1: For, yeah can he bend over and tie his shoes
Speaker 1: without pulling a? Muscle like what the? FUCK i don't
Speaker 1: care about how?
Speaker 2: Tall, yeah and he's he's straight up told her he's, like,
Speaker 2: YEAH i date tons of. Women they all want to date,
Speaker 2: me and Then i'll ghost you like they're still being.
Speaker 3: Ghosted oh my. God, yeah it's.
Speaker 2: Wild, No and just like that what bothers me is, Like,
Speaker 2: okay it's a small. Thing But miranda eats like has
Speaker 2: to stay At carrie's place and then eats the last
Speaker 2: yogurt in banana and it's, like no matter how close
Speaker 2: of friends you, are unless you're about to run to
Speaker 2: the bodega or, something it's, like you would never take
Speaker 2: someone's last yogurt without. Asking and then it's her being like,
Speaker 2: what you don't even eat? Yogurt and it's, like, well
Speaker 2: who did you think it was? FOR i live here?
Speaker 2: Alone and then like that night also like just went
Speaker 2: and had the Last mexican coke from her fridge and it's,
Speaker 2: like you guys just talks about. It she told you
Speaker 2: in the, morning can you not take my last? Items
Speaker 2: and then she is and it's, like this Isn't. Miranda
Speaker 2: this Isn't. Miranda miranda cares about like IT'S i don't,
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't know if they're trying to make like
Speaker 2: a thing about. Menopause is it fucking your brain? Up
Speaker 2: it's just. Confused and then Like, carrie she's just. Annoying,
Speaker 2: ever all the characters are also two. D i think
Speaker 2: that's maybe the, Thing like they're not as layered and
Speaker 2: cool and exciting and fun and. Interesting so this guy's
Speaker 2: like this curmudgeon that lives in the. Building but also
Speaker 2: it's like she bought a full, brownstone but there's a
Speaker 2: renter in the basement that we were just hearing. About it's, like,
Speaker 2: okay so this renter spends half the. Year there's, like, hey, babe,
Speaker 2: like you're walking in. Heels it's really. Noisy can you
Speaker 2: not do? That and she goes absolutely, not this is
Speaker 2: WHO i. Am and it's just her walking around her
Speaker 2: apartment in, heels refusing to not make. Noise and he's
Speaker 2: an asshole the way he acts in the WAY i
Speaker 2: don't it's not like he's likable in any. Capacity but,
Speaker 2: also why are you walking around your house and? Heels
Speaker 2: all that's Also New. York you can't walk around in
Speaker 2: heels in your.
Speaker 1: Apartment you have.
Speaker 2: Neighbors and then he, goes can you get? Rugs she,
Speaker 2: GOES i don't really like. That i'm looking for my.
Speaker 2: Own so it's, LIKE i don't, know so like it
Speaker 2: just seems.
Speaker 3: Strange it's. Strange it's, strange and, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's you, KNOW i just Love you're so too
Speaker 1: D like also, LIKE i, okay So i'm on the
Speaker 1: second season AND i just saw the episode where Like
Speaker 1: harry is having sex With charlotte.
Speaker 3: But he's not.
Speaker 1: Coming he's, coming but he's not shooting any actual sperm
Speaker 1: or jill.
Speaker 2: Spoiler, alert he has if you don't want to, know
Speaker 2: he has prostate.
Speaker 3: Cancers, okay it ends up being something.
Speaker 1: Else but in the episode you watch, It, kara he
Speaker 1: pisses himself out at a nightclub Because charlotte wants to
Speaker 1: be cool and stout late in the art, world And harry's,
Speaker 1: like we're not dead, yet and then he pisses himself
Speaker 1: at the club but refuses to go home to help
Speaker 1: the business and then is, LIKE i have. Cancer, Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: well thank you for telling ME i was gonna find.
Speaker 1: Out but like as a standalone, episode you're, like why
Speaker 1: do you give a shit whether there's like just coming,
Speaker 1: Out LIKE i don't, KNOW i don't know why anybody would.
Speaker 1: CARE i, MEAN i know you you famously like the,
Speaker 1: consistency but like you know, that it's just like these
Speaker 1: episodes seem.
Speaker 3: Weird and then her plotline the whole.
Speaker 1: Episode is how does she get her husband's jizz back in?
Speaker 1: Place but of course it's gonna lead to, this but
Speaker 1: like still as a standalone it's.
Speaker 3: Weird it's bizarre, topics and.
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i feel bad even shitting on, it you,
Speaker 2: know but it's just not good.
Speaker 1: And it had all the opportunities to be. Good come,
Speaker 1: on you've got the same gals. Back they're all good,
Speaker 1: actresses like she could like somebody's either the Or John
Speaker 1: Patrick John Patrick king is.
Speaker 3: Not it's also not growned in any.
Speaker 2: Reality they're on a plane and it's like everyone is
Speaker 2: making videos about it, online but it's like this isn't a,
Speaker 2: Plane like what plane is? This like this isn't what
Speaker 2: a plane looks, Like like you couldn't even get a prop.
Speaker 3: Plane it's just, confusing and then you just see it.
Speaker 2: All it's like they drive to a thing and then
Speaker 2: there's signs everywhere being like don't back, up there's, spikes
Speaker 2: and like then they spike their.
Speaker 3: Car i'm, like what is, This Benny? Hill what is? This?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Forgetting like the EPISODE i just watched too was
Speaker 1: like where the the the beautiful woman that's friends With
Speaker 1: charlotte for they forget to send out the invitations for
Speaker 1: their their like anniversary. Dinner i'm, like so NOW i
Speaker 1: don't get to see a nice. Dinner i'm so, Confused
Speaker 1: like this is all like it's, all it's.
Speaker 3: Not really, great BUT i can't watch tracking.
Speaker 1: AHEAD i guess EVENTUALLY i.
Speaker 3: Have to give. UP i don't, Know.
Speaker 1: Well, wait did you want to talk about This New
Speaker 1: York times movie list that came out of the Best
Speaker 1: movies of The aughts of the two? Thousand, SURE i
Speaker 1: looked at, Like I'M i THINK i just don't know
Speaker 1: the middle. Lists but it's just LIKE i feel disconnected
Speaker 1: from the critics and the people and the, voting like
Speaker 1: there will be blood being number, Three LIKE i get
Speaker 1: that it's a good, move but it's like number.
Speaker 3: THREE i don't. KNOW i just don't get.
Speaker 2: Stuff BUT i want lots of oscars, too AND i
Speaker 2: did work with the, cinematographer but there SO yac to
Speaker 2: me is so.
Speaker 3: Boring it's not that. Good LIKE i just am.
Speaker 2: CONFUSED i was happy to See francis ha And Go
Speaker 2: swirled and like other fun things That i'm, Into Parasite Get.
Speaker 2: Out there were great, options BUT i just, yeah there
Speaker 2: were so many movies WHERE i was, like, OH i
Speaker 2: Guess i'm not like, Everyone LIKE i don't.
Speaker 3: KNOW i just WISH i saw what people.
Speaker 1: SAW i do like this little feature you can do
Speaker 1: where you can check if you've seen it and it
Speaker 1: keeps a little eye and you can do an.
Speaker 3: Eye want to Watch i've seen? It, yes that's the.
Speaker 2: Thing So i'm obviously clicking LIKE i want to watch
Speaker 2: and so AND i have watch BECAUSE i want to
Speaker 2: say Many i've, watched but so Many i'm reading the
Speaker 2: synopsis And i'm looking at it OR i know about,
Speaker 2: it AND i don't even click want to. WATCH i
Speaker 2: do not, Care LIKE i do not care about some of.
Speaker 2: These SO i just am confused by. MYSELF i, guess,
Speaker 2: Yeah OH i was not super bad made the. List
Speaker 2: that's like very important to, Me, yeah that's a social,
Speaker 2: work social. Network never even, thought, Oh, eternal.
Speaker 1: LIKE i do Love.
Speaker 2: Eternal, yeah people care it's, unique no country for old.
Speaker 2: Men moonlight loved number. Five i'm never Watching moonlight. AGAIN
Speaker 2: i don't Think.
Speaker 3: Spirited away is also. AWESOME i didn't even really and.
Speaker 2: Drive i've tried to watch it like ten. TIMES i
Speaker 2: can never watch, It like DO i have number? Two
Speaker 2: like what AM i? Missing why AM i so detached
Speaker 2: from the people that are authority of this? THING i love?
Speaker 2: DOING i love watching, Movies, like why DON'T i feel?
Speaker 3: Connected?
Speaker 1: WELL i think because critics ARE i, Mean, CASEY i
Speaker 1: think you should.
Speaker 3: Get on the mic here for a. Second don't you
Speaker 3: think it's.
Speaker 1: Because like critics like TWENTY i, LOVE i, mean critics
Speaker 1: are notoriously like they're they've studied this, stuff and they're
Speaker 1: like they're going to have more of like A i don't,
Speaker 1: know a prescribed.
Speaker 5: Opinion they have a more academic, yeah and like objective
Speaker 5: opinion on these. Things so, LIKE i don't think they're
Speaker 5: wrong in making a list like this where it's like
Speaker 5: these are the best movies kind of like empirically and.
Speaker 3: Objectively But children Of MEN i saw that in the.
Speaker 3: THEATER i, Went, Okay, lisa you're an. Artist you're not
Speaker 3: supposed to.
Speaker 5: Be you have your lane and you're not you, know
Speaker 5: you're not going to Lock children Of. MEN i Like
Speaker 5: children Of men number. Thirteen it's. High it's. GOOD i
Speaker 5: thought it was. GOOD i don't. KNOW i can see
Speaker 5: why that's, thirteen you, know but it's, LIKE i don't
Speaker 5: think you're gonna like Amyas vardas The gleaners And, eye
Speaker 5: which is on this, list you, Know SO i don't
Speaker 5: think you should feel any sort OF i don't know
Speaker 5: if guilt is the.
Speaker 3: World OH a serious? Man wait NOW i feel. Hip
Speaker 3: NOW i feel. Hit you like that MOVIE i? Did
Speaker 3: like a serious? Man, okay, okay go your.
Speaker 1: Back i'm really loving going through and just clicking on
Speaker 1: the ones i've. Seen it's making me feel accomplished in
Speaker 1: a weird.
Speaker 3: Way.
Speaker 1: ADAPTATION i love number twenty. Seven, Oh, bridema Brides Maid's
Speaker 1: being thirty.
Speaker 3: Two that's. Exciting, NO i, LIKE i Think i've seen
Speaker 3: every one of these.
Speaker 1: Movies EVERYONE i, think so, yeah, whoa because there's some
Speaker 1: that are, like there's just like a bunch of you
Speaker 1: you're gonna say Foreign, yes, YEAH i was gonna say. Foreign,
Speaker 1: WELL i, Mean i'm not, Like i'm not like just
Speaker 1: usually perusing before. PARASITE i didn't know About Bong, juno you.
Speaker 2: Know oh yeah yeah, Wait so LIKE i, WAS i
Speaker 2: feel like such a prude and a, loser and LIKE
Speaker 2: i watched A Scarlet johansen thing of like her going
Speaker 2: talking about her roles and experience. Filming she was seventeen
Speaker 2: when she Did lost In. Translation, oh she was like.
Speaker 3: Twenty, wow that's, crazy.
Speaker 2: Crazy that it's in a normal universe that you're shooting
Speaker 2: these scenes with bil MURT i don't.
Speaker 5: Know, see that's a movie WHERE i was, LIKE i
Speaker 5: Like Sophia coppola's other, Movie The Virgin suicides more Than
Speaker 5: lost In, translation and that's not on this.
Speaker 3: List SO i wonder because it's ninety, NINE i, bet
Speaker 3: yeah it's ninety.
Speaker 5: Nine oh is it ninety? Nine oh, See i'm a dumb.
Speaker 5: DUMB i thought they're not a dum. Dumb it's one.
Speaker 2: YEAR i only know this BECAUSE i play movie grid
Speaker 2: AND i know how they're trying to fuck with me
Speaker 2: at all. Times they're trying to do, This so that's
Speaker 2: HOW i. Knew, OH i haven't Seen The Dark NIGHT
Speaker 2: i GUESS i have to see.
Speaker 5: THAT i don't know Only, YEAH i JUST i can't
Speaker 5: see you liking a lot of these, Movies. LIZA i
Speaker 5: Know Phantom, Thread like SHOULD i see? That, Oh Phantom
Speaker 5: thread's really good and bitchy.
Speaker 1: Them threads really. Good, Her i'm not watching.
Speaker 2: HER i have never Watched Alwauquin phoenix movie AND i never. Will,
Speaker 2: Oh Grand Budapest Hotel royal TenneT bombs back to. Back
Speaker 2: that's pretty.
Speaker 3: Cood. Yeah, yeah Two Wes anderson's are back to.
Speaker 5: Back, yeah we should start a new podcast Where liza
Speaker 5: watches every one of these movies and has a.
Speaker 3: Reaction. Yeah tree Of life never even heard.
Speaker 1: Of it's funny, too BECAUSE i think sometimes these movies
Speaker 1: live at like a specific, time like almost. Famous like
Speaker 1: my friends in college were obsessed with that. Movie but
Speaker 1: LIKE i watched it later and was like it's, Fine
Speaker 1: LIKE i, WAS i didn't think it was the best
Speaker 1: Thing i'd ever, seen but for them it was so.
Speaker 1: Important like for, like you, know certain certain, things just
Speaker 1: like Live you, know you saw Super bad at a
Speaker 1: certain time of your of your life and it meant
Speaker 1: something to.
Speaker 3: You you.
Speaker 5: Know it's more of like a movement than the movie. Itself,
Speaker 5: almost it's almost like the reaction it caused rather than the.
Speaker 3: Movie, yeah Like.
Speaker 1: Legally, blonde, Right, oh the favorite is on here is
Speaker 1: the leg on?
Speaker 5: It, no it's not about what About Devil Worre's. PRADA
Speaker 5: i don't think that's On harry.
Speaker 3: Either they're.
Speaker 1: Kidding Nobleware's prada is really, Good that's WHAT i.
Speaker 2: Mean i'm gonna Watch gravity Never, Again Never. AGAIN i
Speaker 2: saw it in the. THEATER i left AND i, said
Speaker 2: let's get.
Speaker 1: Pizza this is so random though that it's Like Uzo
Speaker 1: aduba Loves inception like, this well you'll be.
Speaker 3: HAPPY i also think they are.
Speaker 2: Starfuckers it's like Every Paul Thomas anderson really was punched rock.
Speaker 1: Every For.
Speaker 3: Nolan i've not Seen.
Speaker 1: INCEPTION i just Like cinophiles Love Paul Thomas. Anderson they just.
Speaker 3: Do they do we? Do? Oh the FAVORITE i love
Speaker 3: The favorites is in my top. Ten, yeah Uncut.
Speaker 1: Joms i've never even heard of this, one but it's
Speaker 1: got the lady from it and oh my, god yeah
Speaker 1: she's really.
Speaker 3: Good Sandra Huler Hullerhuler. Tony but you were happy with
Speaker 3: the list? Overall AM i happy with.
Speaker 5: IT i don't know If i'm like happy with, it
Speaker 5: BUT i Can i'm like money you can see where
Speaker 5: THEY i can see where they came to that. Decision, Yeah.
Speaker 5: MONEYBALL i don't know why that's on. There at the top,
Speaker 5: TEN i felt LIKE i was, Like, okay.
Speaker 3: This is pretty. GOOD i was like fine with.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah i'm Surprised Gone girl's on. There, Oh Gone
Speaker 1: girl ta and changed.
Speaker 2: Everything everything Since Gone girl has been people trying to
Speaker 2: Make Gone.
Speaker 1: Girl i've Made Gone. Girl BUT i liked the book
Speaker 1: Of Gone girl so.
Speaker 2: Much you, KNOW i didn't read, it but WHEN i
Speaker 2: Saw Gone, GIRL i, went, wow that's a.
Speaker 3: Movie LIKE i WISH i saw that in the. Theater
Speaker 3: like that's me as a movie going.
Speaker 1: Experience, yeah the book is ALSO i still never Saw.
Speaker 3: TAR i haven't. Either oh By, Matthew where's? Long it's,
Speaker 3: Like i'm finally gonna go Watch once upon A time In.
Speaker 3: Hollywood you haven't seen. That i'm, SHY i, know but it's.
Speaker 3: Time i'm gonna watch. IT i think it's. Time it's
Speaker 3: a Great oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Movie the MASS i Think Paul Thomas anderson And Christopher
Speaker 2: nolan are the most in This what is this?
Speaker 3: Movie under The. Skin number sixty, Nine, WELL.
Speaker 5: I love that movie By Jonathan. Glazer scarleton hands and
Speaker 5: plays an.
Speaker 3: Alien it's. Great oh, Really, oh let the right one.
Speaker 3: IN i.
Speaker 1: CAN'T i hope this is entertaining for people to listen.
Speaker 1: To it's just us, talking it's us going through a
Speaker 1: list of the best movies Of oh you, know oh
Speaker 1: you know what's In versions, eleven voted for By Joel Kim.
Speaker 2: Booster, Well ocean's eleven is. Fantastic that's that's a. Movie
Speaker 2: LIKE i feel like such a dupe fits Like there We,
Speaker 2: Go But Brad pitt is littered in this Like Brad
Speaker 2: Pitt Leonardo, DiCaprio, like, really some of our greatest movie
Speaker 2: stars are a lot in this. List Past lives is
Speaker 2: SOMETHING i want to. See number eighty six sevens, Oh Past,
Speaker 2: Lives SO i can't.
Speaker 3: Wait It's.
Speaker 1: LANE i was, crying what.
Speaker 3: Were you gonna?
Speaker 5: Say didn't you know that the director Of Past lives
Speaker 5: her husband Wrote Challengers and they're both about these kind
Speaker 5: of like thriple wow couple things, like so it's sort of.
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Speaker 1: day another, episode, guys it's Another. Tuesday, Okay today we
Speaker 1: are doing Trick rolled at The, moulaan a classic Warn light,
Speaker 1: Title season twenty, two episode. Thirteen this came out In
Speaker 1: may of twenty twenty, one so we are in the
Speaker 1: pandemic and they let you.
Speaker 6: Know.
Speaker 1: Uh but also WHEN i read, THIS i was, like
Speaker 1: is this like being? Rickrolled LIKE i had never heard
Speaker 1: the term trick, rolled but then you, know rickrolling was
Speaker 1: like when you got that that.
Speaker 3: Famous you have no video or. Whatever Who, yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly so it's just funny to me that it sounds
Speaker 1: so much like rickrolled at The.
Speaker 3: Mulon but it's a. Trick roll is a real.
Speaker 1: THING i googled it and it's like an Actual it's
Speaker 1: not like a SOMETIMES i think s for you like
Speaker 1: makes up little, terms but this one is. Real so
Speaker 1: the episode starts with flashbacks because this is part of
Speaker 1: AN oc. Crossover, Okay Organized crime With, stabler all, right
Speaker 1: this is from the first of these, Work.
Speaker 2: Like i'm, Sorry like none of their little crossover tricks
Speaker 2: ever work long, term and it makes us more upset and.
Speaker 2: Mad stop littering our show with your crossovers to build
Speaker 2: up your loser.
Speaker 1: Shows, YEAH i think, That, like, YEAH i was definitely
Speaker 1: like an. Attempt and at the, TIME i was watching these,
Speaker 1: seasons so it was fine for me BECAUSE i was.
Speaker 1: Watching oh, See i'm now like two seasons behind ON,
Speaker 1: oc BUT i did watch the first three pretty like on,
Speaker 1: time SO i knew what was going on. Here BUT
Speaker 1: i will definitely make it clear As i'm. Recapping but you,
Speaker 1: know this is like we're at the height of the,
Speaker 1: show trolling the.
Speaker 3: The What benchler?
Speaker 1: Shippers, right like this episode young like gen Z marketer
Speaker 1: or something during that, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like someone like he was, like, yeah you have to make.
Speaker 1: Them think that these two are going to fuck at some,
Speaker 1: point and Like live is breathlessly Going elliott like at the,
Speaker 1: beginning and then she's like telling him he HAS ptsd
Speaker 1: because it's After kathy's, murder and then he's getting an
Speaker 1: intervention from his kids and of course he doesn't give
Speaker 1: a shit what they have to, say, like you, know
Speaker 1: justice is more important than. Anything and it ends with
Speaker 1: him Calling live with this revelation That kathy was the.
Speaker 1: Target like he had gone along thinking that the car
Speaker 1: bomb was meant for him and That kathy got in the,
Speaker 1: car but it was actually meant For.
Speaker 3: Kathy so this is like.
Speaker 1: A whoae moment on THE oce For, stabler, Right so
Speaker 1: the episode then begins for, real and it starts With
Speaker 1: liv listening to this voicemail That elliott, left being like
Speaker 1: it was it was this guy and he did. It
Speaker 1: i've got his name written down, Later i'm. Sorry it's
Speaker 1: like ends up not being that important And liv is
Speaker 1: listening to it in the middle of the, night like
Speaker 1: she calls.
Speaker 3: Him it goes right to.
Speaker 1: Voicemail she leaves a message like begging for a, callback and,
Speaker 1: YEAH i just wrote this is the height of the,
Speaker 1: show reigniting the ben slur. Trolling so cut to a
Speaker 1: bar with loud music playing and A hawk girl is
Speaker 1: telling a Guy hovey how amazing his watches and he, says,
Speaker 1: yeah the waiting list was four.
Speaker 3: Years BUT i pulled.
Speaker 2: Strings and you know a lot of comedy boys love,
Speaker 2: watches and, LIKE i know it's like a wealth. INDICATOR
Speaker 2: i do. NOT i could not care. Less, YEAH i
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to tell any. WHY i, Mean i'm
Speaker 2: also Not i'm not looking for rich, people you, know
Speaker 2: my free, time BUT i JUST i couldn't care less about.
Speaker 1: It what it is just like the only jewelry that
Speaker 1: men spend a lot of money. On, Really LIKE i
Speaker 1: don't think men really have rings or necklaces as.
Speaker 2: MUCH i mean some, do but, like, yeah, Men well
Speaker 2: today my doctor was, like do you live? ALONE i, go,
Speaker 2: yeah she, goes are you gonna get An apple? WATCH
Speaker 2: i go, never she, goes, Well i'm just, saying you,
Speaker 2: Know i've had patience where they fall and that's what saves.
Speaker 2: Them AND i, Go i'm not worried About oh my,
Speaker 2: god hopefully someone would hear me, THUD i, MEAN i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i, Know i'm going to buy An apple watch
Speaker 2: and wear it every day for the off CHANCE i
Speaker 2: might fall in my, Home LIKE i can't even IMAGINE.
Speaker 1: I fall it AND i can't get. Out you're a little,
Speaker 1: BIT i would, say you're decades away from. HELP i
Speaker 1: fall it AND i can't get.
Speaker 3: Up, well not according to this. Bit, NO i actually loved.
Speaker 2: It there's something about being in like a real doctor's
Speaker 2: and she kind of reminded me of your mom in
Speaker 2: terms of hair color and.
Speaker 1: Style and just like you could tell she's been in
Speaker 1: it for a. While yeah you, care she took her.
Speaker 1: TIME i don't. KNOW i was, Really, oh don't worry
Speaker 1: my retired mother who's already plotting how to go back to. Work,
Speaker 1: yeah for. SURE i hope your doctor is going to
Speaker 1: work into her fucking, eighties like my crazy ass.
Speaker 2: Mom but guess, What so today we are Record It's, july,
Speaker 2: right you're listening to, it, listeners It's. JULY i tried
Speaker 2: to make a dermatologists appointment the next Available september twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Six Nah, ah SO i booked it in and they,
Speaker 2: like And i'm on a, waitlist so you get like
Speaker 2: a paying if someone cancels and you can try to
Speaker 2: get in they but, Yeah i'm like whatever put me.
Speaker 1: In, god that is. Nuts LIKE i thought Our german
Speaker 1: IN la was like booked, out but that's Your. GERMAN
Speaker 1: la wasn't taking new. CLIENTS i had to go to
Speaker 1: a younger doctor in that. Office SO i don't know
Speaker 1: if you. Remember, yeah but a full year and a quarter.
Speaker 1: Ahead that's. Insane wow wow wow, Wow well you were
Speaker 1: smart to grab the. Appointment BUT i don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember this Guy hovey that's in this. Episode he
Speaker 1: actually is from another episode Called The Only Way Out Is,
Speaker 1: through and in it he is a. Rapist he Raised kat's, Cousin,
Speaker 1: lily and then she drops the charges because she's, like,
Speaker 1: well maybe things are gonna work out with, him like
Speaker 1: MAYBE i wasn't like communicative. Enough and it's like it's
Speaker 1: one of these episodes that are kind of about like
Speaker 1: the doubt or whatever that victims have sometimes with sexual,
Speaker 1: assault and so.
Speaker 3: That's where this guy comes. From so he's from another.
Speaker 1: Episode and so this Guy hobby's out with this like
Speaker 1: hot blonde and she's you, know obsessed with his watch
Speaker 1: and he's bragging about, it and then you find out
Speaker 1: that they met in THE, dms, right and she's, LIKE
Speaker 1: i could get used TO vip life. Ha and then
Speaker 1: Suddenly in breezes in her gorgeous friend To spina and
Speaker 1: she and the girl is Named, piper And piper And
Speaker 1: daspina they're model. Friends they model, together and, like oh my,
Speaker 1: GOD i can't Believe i'm running into you. Here this is.
Speaker 1: Crazy hobby is really feeling the two girl, problem and he.
Speaker 3: Moves a party over to a.
Speaker 1: Booth this Generic maroon five song starts bumping while these
Speaker 1: three get. Wasted it's, shots, shots, shots but the girls
Speaker 1: aren't actually drinking. Them they are tossing, them which reminds
Speaker 1: me of a night that we went out AND i
Speaker 1: drank every shot you bought me and our friend was
Speaker 1: dumping them AND i was, like, OH i didn't even
Speaker 1: ever think about doing, that, like.
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't waste.
Speaker 1: Things but these girls are tossing every fucking vodka shot
Speaker 1: on the ground over their. Shoulders and then we see them, sprinkle,
Speaker 1: sprinkle sprinkle something from a white little powder in a
Speaker 1: plastic baggie into his. Drink once he's like fully blacked.
Speaker 1: Out they pay his. Tab the female, bartender she looks.
Speaker 1: Pleased she's, like they gave her a good, tip and.
Speaker 3: THEN i paused. IT i went back and, oh you paused.
Speaker 3: IT i.
Speaker 2: Did so the bill was like twelve fifty and they
Speaker 2: tipped her seven. Fifty, whoa, Yeah, like because what would
Speaker 2: twenty percent of twelve fifty even? Be not seven hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars?
Speaker 1: Fifty, no, no it would be, yeah it would be
Speaker 1: like two hundred and fifty or. SOMETHING i, think yeah
Speaker 1: so or, no, yeah, yeah that's. Crazy so they now
Speaker 1: like are kind of of he's, awake but like, pat you,
Speaker 1: know he's fucked, up and they're like pouring him into
Speaker 1: a quick, ride which is Like SPU's version of.
Speaker 3: Uber.
Speaker 1: Right so he's like they're, like where do you want to?
Speaker 1: Go and he's Like vegas and they're all, like, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Vegas it's, like, yeah you're In New. York like that
Speaker 1: doesn't really you can't really just get. There and they
Speaker 1: end up at The Hotel bordeaux on Fortieth, street so
Speaker 1: nowhere close To. Vegas and at the, hotel the girls are,
Speaker 1: like why isn't this guy ptffo'd, Yet like they want
Speaker 1: to know where Where's? Jade, like what's going? On hobby is,
Speaker 1: shirtless he's on the, bed he's. Wasted he's like kind
Speaker 1: of trying to like snuggle and hook up with one
Speaker 1: of the. Girls and Then jade walks, in and she's
Speaker 1: like this badass like girl that just like you, know
Speaker 1: is like walks. In she's got a bottle of. Champagne
Speaker 1: she seems to be like the bitch in. Charge, right
Speaker 1: she fills his. Glass the girls have more, drugs like
Speaker 1: and then uh, oh cut to the girls frantically trying
Speaker 1: to Rouse hobby like he will not wake, up And
Speaker 1: jade is trying to act like it's no big, deal
Speaker 1: and she's just like he's, Fine, hobby wake.
Speaker 3: Up and then she just plugs his nose and he wakes.
Speaker 1: Up and then and like she just gets him to
Speaker 1: give his pin number by going.
Speaker 3: Like, hobby what is your?
Speaker 1: Pan and he just like gargles out his pin number
Speaker 1: and Then jade says, OKAY brb and the other girls
Speaker 1: take all the cash out of his.
Speaker 3: Wallet so this is called getting trick, rolled.
Speaker 1: Right it's where usually where like sex workers set guys,
Speaker 1: up usually with the help of their like pimps or
Speaker 1: somebody else to rob guys that Rob john's. Okay so
Speaker 1: now it's the next morning and it's two hours past,
Speaker 1: checkout AND i think it's the manager banging on the
Speaker 1: door with. Housekeeping they open the door And hobby is
Speaker 1: tied to the bed by his ankles and wrists like starfish.
Speaker 1: Style the maid starts doing the sign of The, cross
Speaker 1: and the manager goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like
Speaker 1: and then he Checks hobby's pulse AND i don't think
Speaker 1: it's good news because he tells the maid don't touch.
Speaker 3: Anything so now my thing is, like just rob the.
Speaker 3: Guy why the? MURDERER i, know.
Speaker 1: It's just like the. DRUGS i just feel like there's
Speaker 1: a way you could give somebody like a lot of
Speaker 1: sleeping pills that wouldn't like kill. THEM i don't, know
Speaker 1: but Maybe i'm wrong about. That you could probably overdo
Speaker 1: it with sleeping pills. Too but it is going through
Speaker 1: a lot to not like just he was so fucked
Speaker 1: up at that. Point it's like you they you have
Speaker 1: to give him more, Drugs like you could have just
Speaker 1: like grabbed the wallet and been out of, there you.
Speaker 3: Know so he's being wheeled.
Speaker 1: Out this is after the Credits act, one he's being
Speaker 1: wheeled out in a body, bag but it's like, Open
Speaker 1: it's like an open body. Bag they're like just for
Speaker 1: everybody to get a, look And kat, Confirms, yep that's,
Speaker 1: Him hobvey social app billionaire and why like is he
Speaker 1: at this shithole hotel?
Speaker 3: Him and like live And cat want to?
Speaker 1: Know So benson just, Grounded, yeah he just wants to
Speaker 1: live like regular. People benson brings Up kat's Cousin lily
Speaker 1: from this episode the only way out is through and, like,
Speaker 1: hey does your cousin still hang out with this? Guy
Speaker 1: And kat's, LIKE i haven't talked to her since she
Speaker 1: refused to testify against, him And finn's, like, well.
Speaker 3: This looks like a party.
Speaker 1: Overdose the guy's tied to the, bed naked and spread,
Speaker 1: eagle And finn calls the guy That i've been calling
Speaker 1: the manager of the, House, dick WHICH i did google
Speaker 1: and it's. Security so he's actually the security guy and
Speaker 1: he is a former cop and lives, like, well why
Speaker 1: don't you go play cops with? Him make him feel
Speaker 1: like he's in on it and get what you can
Speaker 1: out of. Him and Then, kat bring your cousin. In
Speaker 1: so this, guy the security guy's name Is molehall and he's, like,
Speaker 1: look we saw this guy check in that night with
Speaker 1: a couple working girls. Before i've never seen him, before
Speaker 1: but the girls were high. End the guy was twenty
Speaker 1: sheets to the. Wind And cat's, like you just like
Speaker 1: let that. Go and he's, like, yeah unless they're doing
Speaker 1: something super fucking, illegal like hitting a pipe on the way,
Speaker 1: In i'm encouraged to look the other. WAY i don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw the. Sign we're at The Hotel
Speaker 1: bordeaux on Fortieth, Street like this is.
Speaker 3: Not a nice.
Speaker 1: One, YEAH i think it's like they're trying to make
Speaker 1: the like Because mulan is like Is french And bordeaux Is.
Speaker 1: FRENCH i think they're trying to make it see like
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of like wanna Be french, names like
Speaker 1: hotels that are trying to seem nice but are like
Speaker 1: pay by the, hour kind of like sketchy, places you,
Speaker 1: know and the guys, like, listen, YEAH i don't really
Speaker 1: look at fucking wasted guys coming in with two. Girls you,
Speaker 1: know that's not really my line of. Work and he's,
Speaker 1: like this is the first time Of john's been found,
Speaker 1: dead But i've had to call the paramedics four times
Speaker 1: in the past couple. MONTHS i think there's a bad
Speaker 1: batch of something going, around, which, like you, know this
Speaker 1: was like kind of timely because what's happening then and
Speaker 1: still is like there's like all these bad drugs with
Speaker 1: like too much fentanyl going around and people, overdosing and
Speaker 1: that's been happening in the last like five. Years so
Speaker 1: these guys never want to call the. Cops these parent
Speaker 1: guys that the paramedics have, rescued they don't want to
Speaker 1: call the cops.
Speaker 3: Because they're, married they're. Prominent that's why they're.
Speaker 1: Targeted So finn picks up this kind of like harness
Speaker 1: thing off the bed and, goes you can't find this
Speaker 1: at home, depot AND i, just you, KNOW i got
Speaker 1: to call out a fin. Line cat checks his pockets
Speaker 1: and finds a receipt from The Silver fleece and that's
Speaker 1: the name of the like cool bar they were. At
Speaker 1: it just seems like a weird name for a, while
Speaker 1: like want to meet me at The Silver. FLEECE i don't,
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't get. It at the, bar the bartender
Speaker 1: is telling them That hobby's tab was the biggest one
Speaker 1: in nine. Months she tells them it's the same bartender
Speaker 1: that we saw like grinning about her. Tip and she's, like,
Speaker 1: Yeah hobby was here with like a blonde and a
Speaker 1: hot black.
Speaker 3: Chick and they was, like she, goes it was like A.
Speaker 1: Benetton ad in, Here and it was like they really
Speaker 1: gave that joke like a, moment and it's just funny
Speaker 1: because it's just like the oldest, joke like the people
Speaker 1: have been saying that joke for twenty years and it
Speaker 1: was just like funny that they all stopped and were.
Speaker 2: Like huh but It but they didn't even look like
Speaker 2: it was just like one black, person you know WHAT i?
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah WELL i Guess Hobby.
Speaker 1: Latino. Okay so they were, like, yeah it's a Real
Speaker 1: United nations, here like kind.
Speaker 3: Of one my hack crowd work.
Speaker 2: Things IF i see a real mixedtep, TABLE i, go
Speaker 2: what is this a college?
Speaker 1: Brochure but that's like more that's more like the that's
Speaker 1: way less hacky Than BENETON i, feel So, finn the
Speaker 1: blonde is, like, yeah the girls knew each.
Speaker 3: Other the blonde was here earlier waiting On.
Speaker 1: Hobby they got him wasted on all top shelf, shit
Speaker 1: then wants security cam.
Speaker 3: Footage bartender's, like no.
Speaker 1: Problem lily gets back To kat that she's too upset to,
Speaker 1: talk And finn, says we have tissues at the squad,
Speaker 1: room WHICH i.
Speaker 3: Love it's, like get her ass in. THERE i don't
Speaker 3: really fucking.
Speaker 1: Care she's too sad that her rapist has just been,
Speaker 1: like you, Know. Odeed so now we're in woodroom lines
Speaker 1: And kat's Cousin lily is very broken up about her Rapist.
Speaker 1: Odeing she's, like this makes no. Sense hovey was a health.
Speaker 1: Freak he doesn't do. Drugs he doesn't even drink that.
Speaker 1: Much and they're, like, yeah, girl you probably didn't know
Speaker 1: him that. Well like And she's, LIKE i don't recognize these.
Speaker 1: Girls And kat's, like, WELL i think he was dming
Speaker 1: one of them On. Instagram and she's, Like hobvey doesn't
Speaker 1: Date insta girls, anymore he promised. Me it's, like none
Speaker 1: of your relationship with him is. Real she spoke to
Speaker 1: him a few days. Ago she said they had a,
Speaker 1: blowout but they were about to make. Up she, GOES
Speaker 1: i called him last night and he declined the. Call i'm,
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know if you're about to make. UP
Speaker 1: i don't, KNOW i don't. KNOW i think that feels
Speaker 1: very one. Sided but she left him a message because
Speaker 1: he declined the call going off on, him and you,
Speaker 1: know now she kind of feels guilty because he Odd
Speaker 1: live AND cariesi are watching through the. Glass live is
Speaker 1: like kind of glassy eyed being, LIKE i feel bad For,
Speaker 1: lily like there's some things you can never take, back
Speaker 1: and you. Don't we don't really LIKE i think she's
Speaker 1: talking about An elliott, thing BUT i don't know for.
Speaker 1: Sure and Then finn walks in with some sketchy footage
Speaker 1: from the.
Speaker 3: Hotel it's not much obviously at this.
Speaker 1: Hotel the cameras are all directed into like corners where
Speaker 1: no one's gonna get. Seen but they do see a
Speaker 1: third girl. Arriving tarru is still working on facial wreck
Speaker 1: and they Sent he said he sent the picks To,
Speaker 1: phoebe his girl In.
Speaker 3: Vice But vice doesn't know these bitches at.
Speaker 1: All so now we're talking To melinda and she's asking,
Speaker 1: them you guys get your second, Vaccine so we're they're
Speaker 1: placing us definitely right into the pandemic And finn's, like,
Speaker 1: yeah it feels LIKE i won parole and lives LIKE
Speaker 1: i slept for twelve. Hours it's like just. Funny they're
Speaker 1: just doing like different reactions to getting the. Vaccine and
Speaker 1: Then melinda's, Like i'm so relieved for all of.
Speaker 3: Us, anyway that's the end of this week's.
Speaker 1: Update the squad will no longer have to sporadically wear
Speaker 1: masks whenever they feel like, it cause about the.
Speaker 2: PEOPLE i feel, LIKE i remember there was like a
Speaker 2: landlord was wearing. One i'm, like, anyone he's not gonna be.
Speaker 1: And it's like pulled down like above his upper, lip you.
Speaker 1: Know but cause of death On Javier garcia was a cute.
Speaker 3: Intoxication she.
Speaker 1: Said besides his sky high blood, alcohol he was also
Speaker 1: on a mix of oxy fentanyl and M DNA mdma
Speaker 1: and they're like ANY dna and she's like, nope and
Speaker 1: then she goes he went he didn't come and we
Speaker 1: talked about. THIS i feel like when it first, aired
Speaker 1: we talked about it on the. Podcast i'm, like you're
Speaker 1: never gonna believe What melinda, said because there's been another
Speaker 1: time that she said something like that, Before like she
Speaker 1: said a joke before about somebody not coming in a sexual,
Speaker 1: way like as a double, turn AND i can't remember,
Speaker 1: it but it's not the first. Time melinda's dabbled in
Speaker 1: some wordplay And finn, Realizes, okay so they rolled this.
Speaker 1: Guy they just like wanted his, wallet that's all they
Speaker 1: wanted him. For melinda can't rule the manner of. Death she,
Speaker 1: goes it's a, cuppy and a cuppy is circumstances undetermined
Speaker 1: pending police. Investigation SO i THINK i talked about this
Speaker 1: In Lost, traveler where when they first found not the
Speaker 1: body of the kid but in a different like a different,
Speaker 1: crime they didn't know for, sure like what it was,
Speaker 1: yet and so it was like this kind of, thing
Speaker 1: a circumstance is undetermined pending police. Investigation it's like a
Speaker 1: she can't rule anything until she sees the police report
Speaker 1: and then like connects the dots Before live. Leaves warner's, like, hey,
Speaker 1: so How's stabler. DOING i wrote him a condolence's note
Speaker 1: AND i never heard, back And lives, like, yeah he's
Speaker 1: going through a, lot And melinda's, like looks. UPSET i
Speaker 1: guess WHAT i read on the wiki was that episodes
Speaker 1: later ON oc he apologizes To melinda for not responding
Speaker 1: to her, condolences so they're. Good in case you're, worried
Speaker 1: goes out to the parking garage And elliott is waiting
Speaker 1: by her car and they're talking about this, Guy Sasha.
Speaker 1: Lensky that's who he was talking about on the. Voicemail
Speaker 1: Sasha lensky was in the. Window he Watched kathy as
Speaker 1: she got, killed and he is a mobster that they
Speaker 1: Think Richard wheatley hired to plant the bomb and do
Speaker 1: the whole. Job And elliott is spiraling, right he cannot
Speaker 1: figure out why anyone would want to Kill, kathy And
Speaker 1: live is, like, dude you got a. Chill this isn't your.
Speaker 1: Case like he doesn't even know where they are with the,
Speaker 1: case like they're hiding things from me and it's obviously killing.
Speaker 1: Him and he's, Like, live could you reach out to
Speaker 1: your connections over? There and she's like, NO i. Can't
Speaker 1: like she's like everyone in my life is telling me
Speaker 1: to stay away from this case and to stay away from.
Speaker 3: You and he's, like, oho who's telling you? That who's saying?
Speaker 1: That and she's, like did anything at the intervention we
Speaker 1: did with you make it through that thick bald, skull
Speaker 1: like did anything? Register and he's, LIKE i don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about that. Night it's, like of course you
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about a night that like people
Speaker 1: that care about you came together to talk to you
Speaker 1: about your disruptive. Behaviors and she's, like you need to,
Speaker 1: rest you need to eat, something you need to back
Speaker 1: off of this whole. Thing let the intel squad or
Speaker 1: whatever do their, job and.
Speaker 3: Like do this for, you ain't for your.
Speaker 1: Kids and he's, LIKE i hear, you you, know but
Speaker 1: it is, Stabler SO i don't think he really does hear.
Speaker 3: Anything but he's, like are we? Good and she, GOES
Speaker 3: i hope.
Speaker 1: So and the music in this whole episode is very,
Speaker 1: dramatic like we're getting a lot of swelling. Violins like
Speaker 1: it's very very very dramatic in a in a new
Speaker 1: episode type of WAY i. Feel, Now cat And finn
Speaker 1: are at the Hotel mulan On west fourteenth where they
Speaker 1: found another Guy. Odeed, okay another Like richie rich white
Speaker 1: man is dead and the manager of the hotel has
Speaker 1: idd the white girl and An asian. Girl the night
Speaker 1: manager there found the Guy odeed naked cash Gone. No
Speaker 1: atm Cards, live shows up and is. Shocked the prescott
Speaker 1: here so quick it's it's like just an. Od she's,
Speaker 1: like what the hell And cat's, like, yeah it'd Hit
Speaker 1: twitter a half an hour.
Speaker 3: Ago it's like Rip. Twitter but his name Is Paul.
Speaker 1: Landry he's what they call the people call him a
Speaker 1: financial robin. Hood he like squeezes hedge fun guys until
Speaker 1: they lose their. Shorts BUT i mean does he give
Speaker 1: the money to poor? PEOPLE i don't really, know But
Speaker 1: samemo is it the same women As finn is Giving
Speaker 1: live some of the. Details she stops in her tracks
Speaker 1: and she realizes this is the hotel where her half
Speaker 1: Brother simon. Died oh my.
Speaker 2: God the other collector like this, episode it's it's a
Speaker 2: lot of.
Speaker 1: Connections, Yes So dundune off to commercial top OF ac.
Speaker 1: Two at The Morgue live is staring at the dead
Speaker 1: body Of Paul, landry, who, honestly lying there looks Like
Speaker 1: Harry dubin From Real housewives Of New. YORK i don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw, that BUT i did see him
Speaker 1: in person at The regency once and he looked like
Speaker 1: this man dead on a slab and liv is having
Speaker 1: flashbacks to Seeing simon's body in that same, position and
Speaker 1: basically she's Asking melinda like what's up and is, like,
Speaker 1: well both of these guys odd on oxy fentonel AND
Speaker 1: Mdma And she's, like But simon's ode was heroin in.
Speaker 1: Fenttional plus he had a history of drug use and
Speaker 1: lives like, yeah but street drugs. Changed there's new batches every.
Speaker 1: MONTH i Think simon was. ROLLED i think he was,
Speaker 1: murdered because, like up until, then they all kind of
Speaker 1: think that he just relapsed and odeed and this was
Speaker 1: kind of his own, doing like either kind of a
Speaker 1: suicide or just an accidental. Od finn's like, maybe But
Speaker 1: live like this cru is going after rich dudes Like
Speaker 1: simon was, broke to put it, mildly And she's, like,
Speaker 1: well maybe they didn't know. That simon talked a good,
Speaker 1: game And live is getting testy With melinda like, well
Speaker 1: how much investigation did you? Do And melinda, goes that's
Speaker 1: not my. Job based on the police, report it was
Speaker 1: the correct conclusion at the. TIME i do love, how
Speaker 1: even though they're, Friends melinda always stands up for herself
Speaker 1: and lives LIKE i got to talk to the rest
Speaker 1: of Because.
Speaker 2: Live it's, LIKE i don't know your brother was, Poor
Speaker 2: LIKE i just don't see. This so it is it's
Speaker 2: like it's hard For melinda or anyone probably to take
Speaker 2: her seriously in this moment of, like, YEAH i, investigated
Speaker 2: your brother's.
Speaker 3: Not involved in.
Speaker 1: This, yeah it's like a different drug. Cocktail and it's,
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, Know I'M i think a lot of
Speaker 1: bad shit's going down at this kind at this. Hotel you,
Speaker 1: know it's not, like oh my, god the same hotel
Speaker 1: and it's like a year. Ago But, melinda you, know
Speaker 1: is like this was the correct conclusion and lives LIKE
Speaker 1: i want to talk to the responding. Officer they missed,
Speaker 1: Something so now we're talking To Detective Ray, fernandez the responding.
Speaker 1: Officer and this guy As Detective Ray. Fernandez he actually
Speaker 1: appears in three more episodes after this, one so they
Speaker 1: liked him and he comes back in other. Episodes he
Speaker 1: can't believe there's a task force for guys getting trick,
Speaker 1: rolled And live brings Up, simon and it's really wild
Speaker 1: that she's getting this involved right after she Told stabler
Speaker 1: like stand down in his own wife's, case you, know, like.
Speaker 2: Well this is they always convince each other to take
Speaker 2: special protections but never want it for themselves, exactly exactly totally,
Speaker 2: so So fernandez is, like, dog it was pretty cut and,
Speaker 2: dry like the guy came in From New jersey to
Speaker 2: use and eodeed And live keeps questioning, him like and
Speaker 2: the guy's, like, yeah but he had cash in his,
Speaker 2: wallet he had his, phone he had his.
Speaker 1: Watch like that's that's all evidence that somebody's not getting,
Speaker 1: rolled you. Know And fernandez doesn't, understand, like why are
Speaker 1: we fussing over this? Guy like WHEN i call this
Speaker 1: ex to notify, her she didn't even call me, back
Speaker 1: like nobody cared about this.
Speaker 3: Dude And lives, like WELL i. Did he was my.
Speaker 1: Brother and he. Apologizes he's, like oh, Shit i'm, sorry
Speaker 1: BUT i SWEAR i did this all by the. Book
Speaker 1: and Then, live you, know she's out of. There she
Speaker 1: goes and Gets simon's effects okay because his ex never
Speaker 1: picked them, up and it's his, watch his, phone his,
Speaker 1: wallet all in these evidence. Bags she takes the phone
Speaker 1: out and, WOW i need to find out what model
Speaker 1: phone this is because it does turn on after one
Speaker 1: year that it's been sitting in evidence, locker and it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool that that. Worked and the background is him
Speaker 1: holding his cute little, daughter and it's, weird Like olivia
Speaker 1: doesn't stay in touch with like her, Niece like this
Speaker 1: is like kind of an innocent little girl that.
Speaker 2: How MANY i wonder if the the like his girl
Speaker 2: his ext and.
Speaker 1: Care, yeah maybe she didn't want, to but like it's
Speaker 1: Like olivia has like no. FAMILY i would assume like
Speaker 1: she'd be Like, noah you and your cousin you and
Speaker 1: like your she would Be olivia's, niece so they would
Speaker 1: sort of be like a second cousin type of. Thing
Speaker 1: and she's having a flashback to when they ran into
Speaker 1: each other on the street and she was With noah
Speaker 1: and they set up a lunch date and he never
Speaker 1: showed up because he. Died and then she looks at
Speaker 1: his phone and she checks this unheard voicemail that's from
Speaker 1: her on his, phone and it's her responding to getting
Speaker 1: stood up at lunch and being, LIKE i knew this
Speaker 1: was a bad. Idea don't even bother calling me, back
Speaker 1: and you know, what don't ever call me, again like
Speaker 1: and it's a really harsh. Message so like liv listens
Speaker 1: to this message from herself and you, know it's like
Speaker 1: hard to, hear But finn walks in and lives LIKE
Speaker 1: i had.
Speaker 3: Been So i've spent like a.
Speaker 1: Year you're being so worried about him getting that, voicemail
Speaker 1: but it turns out he never got. It like So
Speaker 1: live like had to call his ex to get his
Speaker 1: password on the phone and she's, like, YEAH i talked
Speaker 1: After simon, passed and she asked me to handle the.
Speaker 1: Remains we were going to do a celebration of life
Speaker 1: scatter his, ashes but a few months went by and
Speaker 1: it never, happened and THEN covid. Hit and you, KNOW
Speaker 1: i think it's just like another thing about HOW covid
Speaker 1: just sort of like paused a lot of people's plans
Speaker 1: for random. Stuff and you, Know live didn't know that
Speaker 1: the that THE x never picked up his. Stuff so
Speaker 1: now luckily it's all sitting right there and she can
Speaker 1: investigate his final day on the.
Speaker 3: Planet and she tracked his last.
Speaker 1: Call you would think that the cops would at least
Speaker 1: look at who last called him or like, it you
Speaker 1: know WHAT i, Mean, like but, well, yeah you're right,
Speaker 1: maybe and it seems like they did and this, whatever
Speaker 1: so they tracked the LAST i, mean it's like.
Speaker 2: You're going to Some bordeaux, hotel some. Dude it is
Speaker 2: just like on the, bed there's drugs that, like what are? You,
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't THINK i think it was pretty open and. Shut,
Speaker 2: yeah you're, right you're.
Speaker 1: Right so they tracked the last call to this guy
Speaker 1: Named Edward, boduski and he's like a finance dude and lives, like,
Speaker 1: Girl i'm going to give you the same advice that
Speaker 1: you Gave, stabler like this is, Family, like you cannot
Speaker 1: interrogate This bodusky.
Speaker 3: Guy and she's, like, OH i know a fucked up.
Speaker 3: NAME i don't want to be talking About. BADUSKI i
Speaker 3: know it's.
Speaker 1: WEIRD i don't really get their. Names i've never seen
Speaker 1: this name before in my, Life. Bodusky but we cut
Speaker 1: To finn And kat Obviously live sent them to do
Speaker 1: the work talking to this Guy baduski at his like
Speaker 1: finance bro.
Speaker 3: Office say his name one more, Time, OKAY i wadcast this.
Speaker 1: Over, okay we're, quitting, okay he tells. Them he tells, Them,
Speaker 1: YEAH i Was simon's na. Sponsor simon called me depressed
Speaker 1: thinking about USING i looked up a meeting for. Him
Speaker 1: LAST i heard he was headed back To New jersey
Speaker 1: and then they show him the girls on the that
Speaker 1: they've got photos of from the security, footage and he's, like,
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't know these. Girls And finn has gotten
Speaker 1: a text during this whole exchange and is kind of
Speaker 1: rushing them. Out And, mulhall the, guy the security guy
Speaker 1: from the very first hotel Where hobby was, found he's
Speaker 1: got a buddy at another dive hotel that said a
Speaker 1: guy was just found odeing and he was partying with
Speaker 1: three sex, workers, white black And.
Speaker 3: Asian but this guy is.
Speaker 1: Alive So kat asks, like you, know should we call
Speaker 1: live And finn, goes let's hold off and. Okay now
Speaker 1: at the, hotel the security guy's, like this has never.
Speaker 1: HAPPENED i run a good hotel that's by the, hour you.
Speaker 1: Know and then he's like it's Doctor, linderman wonderful. Man
Speaker 1: ladies love. Him it's not that weird that he's there
Speaker 1: with these three. Ladies and so when they get to the,
Speaker 1: room the EMTs say that the doc was giving himself
Speaker 1: narcan when they got, there and the doctor is kind of, annoyed, like,
Speaker 1: buddy you called the. Security like the security, guard he's,
Speaker 1: like why'd you call the cops, like and they're, LIKE
Speaker 1: i thought you Were he's, LIKE i thought you were.
Speaker 1: Dying so they got to get the doctor to the.
Speaker 1: Hospital And finn's, Like finn, goes, okay now we call.
Speaker 1: LIVE i don't really get why now we call but
Speaker 1: you know, Whatever but Doctor Walter underman is a renowned pediatric.
Speaker 2: Neurosurg suspicious to be, like why would you call the?
Speaker 2: Cops maybe that's what does?
Speaker 3: It, WELL.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Know it's like domian, NO i just.
Speaker 1: Mean like They kat was, like should we call live
Speaker 1: and tell her what we found out at that guy's,
Speaker 1: office that guy whose NAME i can't. Say and Then
Speaker 1: finn's like hold. Off and then they find the pediatrician
Speaker 1: And finn's, like, okay now let's call. IT i don't
Speaker 1: really get, Why like like what why? Now Now it's
Speaker 1: like the pediatrician is three makes a, pattern the rule
Speaker 1: of threes in. COMEDY i don't really. Know but Doctor
Speaker 1: Walter linderman is a renowned pediatric neurosurgeon At, mercy teaches
Speaker 1: At hudson Look out And cariese's, like why the fuck
Speaker 1: is this dude at a drug? Hotel and he fits the.
Speaker 1: Profile he's got a lot to, lose you. Know and
Speaker 1: now we're in a meeting With linderman and his, lawyer
Speaker 1: AND i sort of love his. Lawyer she's like, very
Speaker 1: very confident and no, bullshit and she's, like JUST fyi my.
Speaker 1: Cut my client is a, victim and he will cooperate
Speaker 1: in exchange for full.
Speaker 3: Immunity like she. Knows she's not there to fuck.
Speaker 1: Around and they told they show him the girls and tell, him,
Speaker 1: well these are they're wanted for three drug facilitated. Murders
Speaker 1: and he's, like there's no, way not those precious. Angels
Speaker 1: you've got them all. Wrong he, goes those are friends of,
Speaker 1: mine they're good. People he's, like my job is. STRESSFUL
Speaker 1: i needed to blow off. Steam we were just. Partying
Speaker 1: they didn't slip me. Anything it was just stronger stuff
Speaker 1: than What i'm used. To and the lawyer is like
Speaker 1: but the lawyer goes and they were not his, drugs
Speaker 1: and then everybody that's everybody's favorite line in this. Episode
Speaker 1: these were not my, drugs AND i did not supply the,
Speaker 1: drugs so who got?
Speaker 3: Them and the.
Speaker 1: Lawyer, goes this is starting to feel, adversarial and they're, like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna maybe leak the story to the, press
Speaker 1: And linderman's, like no one will believe, it and Then live,
Speaker 1: goes your wife, might and now he's. Listening, Okay they're,
Speaker 1: like we need you to id these, girls and he,
Speaker 1: GOES i might have a contact for one of. Them
Speaker 1: so we cut to the blonde girl running out to
Speaker 1: a car to a quick ride again And Louis vuitton.
Speaker 1: Baggage she's Got Louis vuitton bags on her as. Well
Speaker 1: It's piper And finn And cat are there to arrest
Speaker 1: her ass and she tries to make a run for
Speaker 1: it and, Goes, felix let's, go but the driver, GOES
Speaker 1: i don't even know this, girl LIKE i just drive
Speaker 1: for quick. Ride and it's, like, yeah that should have
Speaker 1: been a huge sign right away because nobody knows their uber.
Speaker 1: Driver nobody's gonna say to the uber Driver, felix let's,
Speaker 1: go you, know AND i don't buy.
Speaker 2: IT i saw a clip From Amie poehler's podcast With Seth,
Speaker 2: myers and he told a story that has happened to
Speaker 2: me where you get into a car and you.
Speaker 3: Go oh my, GOD i had you, Yesterday like.
Speaker 2: How cool and he, goes this driver could not care
Speaker 2: less at, all AND i was, like that's happening before
Speaker 2: WHERE i got in a.
Speaker 3: CAR i, go oh my, god, dude it's. You of
Speaker 3: course we're. NOTHING i don't.
Speaker 1: Care, yeah you're a Fair so this, GUY i don't buy.
Speaker 1: That this guy's just a quick ride. Driver AND i don't
Speaker 1: Think finn does. Either but you, know flag that for follow.
Speaker 1: Up in the holding room, Now piper has written lawyer
Speaker 1: in lipstick in huge letters on the two way glass
Speaker 1: and then sealed it with a little. Kiss she's looking
Speaker 1: really cocky for somebody who's been involved in three drug facilitated. Murders,
Speaker 1: okay she's a former club dancer From. Montreal she's got
Speaker 1: priors for, possessions soliciting an unlawful use of a credit.
Speaker 1: Card in her bag they found six men's, watches four college,
Speaker 1: rings ten k and, cash three burner, cells and a
Speaker 1: couple of little baggies of drugs That warner is.
Speaker 3: Testing so it's wild that she's like a, lawyer please, babies.
Speaker 1: Because, like you definitely have priors and you've got a
Speaker 1: lot of sketchy shit in your. Bag her tablet has
Speaker 1: a file on it Called insurance and in it is
Speaker 1: selfies With Landry Hovey linderman and others Including Lisa Plug Your,
Speaker 1: Ears Edward bodski In october of twenty nineteen And Done.
Speaker 1: Done simon is in the picture with the. Girls he's
Speaker 1: right in the, back AND i knew that that little
Speaker 1: freak was lying when he's, like, YEAH i just looked
Speaker 1: up a meeting For simon and let him. GO i
Speaker 1: kind OF i could sense so at his. Office, yeah
Speaker 1: but also we're all, like, Oh olivia's. Nuts she's in,
Speaker 1: mourning but she was onto.
Speaker 3: Something.
Speaker 1: Yeah they kind of never Let olivia just be straight.
Speaker 1: Nuts she's always kind of she might be like two
Speaker 1: nuts in her, methods but she's always onto, something you.
Speaker 1: Know so at his, office this guy's still trying to play.
Speaker 1: Innocent they go back to the guy that's in the
Speaker 1: picture With simon and they're still trying to play he's playing,
Speaker 1: innocent and then they flash him the photo and he's,
Speaker 1: Like i'm a Good. SAMARITAN i called nine one. One
Speaker 1: they were their, drugs not. Mine and then he admits
Speaker 1: that him And simon knew each other in high. School
Speaker 1: they had coffee that day and he felt bad For.
Speaker 1: Simon he's, LIKE i was going to loan in some,
Speaker 1: money and Like simon kept being, like why do you
Speaker 1: have so? Much AND i have? Nothing and like he,
Speaker 1: goes it's not you, Know simon is just as smart as.
Speaker 1: Me he just made some bad. Decisions And i'm, like,
Speaker 1: Yeah simon's made a lot of dumb, decisions like kidnapping
Speaker 1: his own child when like there was a custody thing going. On,
Speaker 1: Like he's done a lot of stupid shit That olivia's
Speaker 1: had to bail him out.
Speaker 2: Of so, NO i have never Liked simon as a.
Speaker 2: CHARACTER i don't. THINK i don't like that he you,
Speaker 2: know dead in a motel. Room but, YEAH i don't
Speaker 2: think he was any. Good he should have Left levella
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah so he's having lunch with his friend being
Speaker 1: like you get everything AND i have. Nothing there was
Speaker 1: that episode where oh there was the framing from the
Speaker 1: woman In New. Jersey that's, true that's, true there was the,
Speaker 1: Framing but this guy. GOES i knew IF i couldn't Help,
Speaker 1: SIMON i could at least lift his.
Speaker 2: MOOD i Had benson do in her life to be
Speaker 2: to be just haunted by these her son's. Annoying her
Speaker 2: brother's a, problem you, know her mom's a. Mess it's
Speaker 2: just like there's no one solid in. Her stabler ditched
Speaker 2: her for twelve years without speaking to. Her cassidy tried
Speaker 2: to fuck her over with the custody of her bad.
Speaker 1: Size, yes they can't let her be. HAPPY i think
Speaker 1: if the only thing that is given.
Speaker 2: Him by That Anthony, quinn it's just, like, yeah the
Speaker 2: Fuck Aiden.
Speaker 1: Quinn the only thing that they've given her is like
Speaker 1: a friendship With, rollins and then they took that away
Speaker 1: and are now giving it. Back like the only thing
Speaker 1: they gave her was like a solid female friend she
Speaker 1: could kind of rely.
Speaker 2: On she Loved, barbara and then he had to kill a,
Speaker 2: baby you, know yeah who had a low quality of.
Speaker 1: Life yeah, yeah she was buddies With. Stone he's out of. There,
Speaker 1: yeah like Every you're, right they cannot let her be.
Speaker 1: Happy they can't let her fuck like nothing.
Speaker 2: Can her journalist boyfriend ended up going to jail forever
Speaker 2: for not revealing.
Speaker 3: Sources you, know it's just, fuck they're all. Bad, yeah
Speaker 3: and we're not even.
Speaker 1: Talking her ex died. HER i think the love of
Speaker 1: her life died by you, know taking his own.
Speaker 2: Life and the thing that's wild is like we haven't
Speaker 2: even covered the criminals who have wronged. Her we're not
Speaker 2: talking about the, framings the full, rapes the, Cult, yeah
Speaker 2: Prison Mayam. Lewis the guys talk about the Good pete like.
Speaker 2: Her her support circle is who we're talking. ABOUT i,
Speaker 2: KNOW i. Know it's fucking. CRAZY theo had to kill unarmed.
Speaker 2: Teens it's like she can't just be blessed with one solid.
Speaker 6: Human no no her thinking who's just to? Pay, yeah
Speaker 6: they think It's, noah but it's he's. Annoying but, okay so.
Speaker 1: This guy's, like, LOOK i FIGURED i could just at
Speaker 1: least try to change the guy's. MOOD i Knew piper
Speaker 1: from a strip. Club she and her friend met us
Speaker 1: at a. BAR i think her name Was. Daspina she
Speaker 1: was flirting With, simon making him feel. Good we end
Speaker 1: up at a. Motel they had party. Favors it was
Speaker 1: like NOTHING i had ever done. Before we both pass.
Speaker 1: Out WHEN i wake, up the girls are, gone and
Speaker 1: WHEN i go to wake Up, simon he's ice cold
Speaker 1: on the. BED i put his clothes back on him
Speaker 1: AND i cleaned up the room and then lives like
Speaker 1: you just left him, there and she's, LIKE i called
Speaker 1: nine one, one but he was, Dead LIKE i have
Speaker 1: a wife and, kids and he, GOES i know this sounds,
Speaker 1: bad but ALL i could tell myself is That simon died.
Speaker 1: Happy he had one last good time and that does
Speaker 1: not make live feel.
Speaker 2: Better as she walks out, office kids don't have a,
Speaker 2: father just but he got to.
Speaker 3: Party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're at the top Of act four, now
Speaker 1: and if you think this episode's wrapping up cleanly anytime,
Speaker 1: soon you're.
Speaker 3: INCORRECT i can't believe.
Speaker 2: We're An act four because, truly so much still has to.
Speaker 3: Happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they're doing a lineup of girls and our
Speaker 1: Guy bodusky. Easily Id's, daspina the manager from The, Mulan Id's,
Speaker 1: jade The asian, girl the manager who loves the pediatric.
Speaker 3: Surgeon He Id's.
Speaker 1: Piper so that's all three girls getting id'd like they
Speaker 1: were all involved in the big bang three of these
Speaker 1: big bang. Bong, yeah we got three of, THEM caresi,
Speaker 1: says time to. Play let's make a. Deal so Now
Speaker 1: finn's talking To, piper who's, like these guys were my.
Speaker 1: FRIENDS i wouldn't hurt. Them they gave me their and
Speaker 1: like the wings and the, watches they gave me those,
Speaker 1: things like do you what would you do with a
Speaker 1: men's college, ring? Ma'am And finn's, like you're gonna go
Speaker 1: away for three counts of man two And piper's lawyer is,
Speaker 1: like it's time to give. Up who gave you the?
Speaker 1: Drugs so Now kat is talking To daspina and she's,
Speaker 1: like those guys got plenty for their.
Speaker 3: MONEY i, Mean i'm sorry they, died but that's not my.
Speaker 3: Fault it's like.
Speaker 1: Wild she's, like, listen we gave them a great. Time
Speaker 1: if that's how you go, out good for, them you.
Speaker 1: Know and they're, like you're looking at forty five years in.
Speaker 1: Jail who brought the? Drugs and now we cut To
Speaker 1: jade and they've clearly both the other girls have Named,
Speaker 1: jade and she Says piper And despina are lying. Whores
Speaker 1: they got these guys. Wasted i'm just along for the.
Speaker 1: PARTY i have no clue where the drugs came. From
Speaker 1: and they're, like, well we have texts to, you to
Speaker 1: somebody that say this batch IS.
Speaker 3: NG i tried to google what that, means you, KNOW.
Speaker 1: Ng, yeah no. Good maybe oh MAYBE i don't. Know
Speaker 1: this batch is. Ng people are dropping And she's just like, deny, deny.
Speaker 1: Deny she's like, no LIKE i never, WROTE i never
Speaker 1: said that. Whatever And kat's, like, listen one death is one,
Speaker 1: thing two deaths and now like three cases. Total come,
Speaker 1: on help. YOURSELF pipera And despina are gonna roll on.
Speaker 1: You and there's got to be someone you can kick
Speaker 1: this back. To and this girl is like super. Tough
Speaker 1: she's like. Badass she's, LIKE i don't kick back to
Speaker 1: or depend on. Anyone my, mind my, body my. Daughter
Speaker 1: that's ALL i got in this. World and that's ALL
Speaker 1: i have to. Say and you know they're watching her
Speaker 1: through the glass and they, like, wow, yeah this girl's
Speaker 1: tough and she must be covering for like a dealer
Speaker 1: or a.
Speaker 3: Pimp melinda pops in just like the.
Speaker 1: Good old, days when the days where she likes to
Speaker 1: get a little breather from the morgue and she's got
Speaker 1: some old fashioned talk screen results that could have easily been.
Speaker 1: Texted she goes all three of these guys were dosed
Speaker 1: with the same bad. Batch one Of piper's bags was
Speaker 1: a match to, it And vice is very familiar with
Speaker 1: this drug called Purple, magic which is like oxy fent
Speaker 1: AND mdma mixed, together but this batch had a higher
Speaker 1: dose of. Fentanyl so someone is clearly out there making
Speaker 1: their own shit and trying to pass it off as purple.
Speaker 1: Magic melinda points out that THE oc has been Tracking
Speaker 1: Purple magic for a. While you should check with anyone
Speaker 1: you know over, there, live you know anyone over, there
Speaker 1: like Obviously stabler is over. There so now at The,
Speaker 1: Mulan Stabler live And finn are at the room Where Simon.
Speaker 1: Odd stabler explains That, wheatlet who is played By dylan,
Speaker 1: McDermott he's the main bad guy in seasons one and
Speaker 1: two OF oc and the guy who is responsible for Killing,
Speaker 1: kathy like whether like you, know he's the guy That
Speaker 1: stabler's almost positive ordered the hit On. Kathy whoever placed
Speaker 1: the bomb or, not it doesn't. Matter it was At
Speaker 1: richard's Like wheatley's. Orders and he does have a legit
Speaker 1: business making oxy like he has companies that make, pharmaceuticals
Speaker 1: but his side business is to add fedicinel to it
Speaker 1: and pedal it as purple. Magic he is a very
Speaker 1: sketchy businessman like he's that's why they follow him in o.
Speaker 1: S it's like he has legitimate businesses and he probably
Speaker 1: makes a shit ton of money on legitimate, businesses but
Speaker 1: he's like an evil guy that just like. That he does,
Speaker 1: trafficking he murders. People he's just very. Mobby and they're, like,
Speaker 1: Well wheatley wouldn't want dead, bodies so maybe this is
Speaker 1: a rival gang or. Something then gets a call From
Speaker 1: taru they got something off piper snapchat and it's fucking. Insane,
Speaker 1: okay it's literally all the girls in the room with
Speaker 1: the dusky guy And simon lying face down on the.
Speaker 1: Bed they're all talking about stashes and shit like. That
Speaker 1: and just As i'm, thinking how stupid is this bitch
Speaker 1: to be snapping her literal, crimes a guy in the video, Goes,
Speaker 1: piper how stupid are? You delete that? Now and then
Speaker 1: the last the last shot of the video is a
Speaker 1: shot Of Done Done, felix the Quick ride. Driver he's
Speaker 1: not the driver, obviously he's a dealer and he drives
Speaker 1: the girls, around but.
Speaker 2: He's also like one of the hottest men we've ever
Speaker 2: seen on the. Show, yeah you know WHAT i, Mean he's,
Speaker 2: cute not that they aren't sexy uber. Drivers i'm, sure
Speaker 2: but like this, guy YEAH i don't. Know, yeah, YEAH
Speaker 2: i didn't buy.
Speaker 1: It it definitely stuck out and we better find, him they,
Speaker 1: think Before wheatley. Does, Okay so now they're in lock
Speaker 1: up talking To. JADE i, mean she's in an orange.
Speaker 1: JUMPSUIT i don't know if she's like in holding before
Speaker 1: cort or, whatever but she's there with her lawyer and
Speaker 1: she really starts spilling when they show her this little.
Speaker 3: Snapchat, okay like she's, like, ugh dumb, Bitch.
Speaker 1: LIKE i knew she was gonna like fuck it all,
Speaker 1: up and the lawyer is, like and then she goes
Speaker 1: save it legal. Aids so she's really not respecting her
Speaker 1: lawyer in any. Way she's not afraid of, feelings she.
Speaker 3: SAYS i MEAN i think she's a bad, person but,
Speaker 3: yeah but SHE'S I, Sam, yeah she's not afraid Of.
Speaker 1: Felix she knows. Things and they're, like so why protect?
Speaker 1: Him and Then live figures it all out because he
Speaker 1: is her daughter's. Father your baby daddy has been ripping
Speaker 1: off the wrong, guys and he's safer with us than
Speaker 1: he is on the. Street And jade's like does anybody
Speaker 1: buy that? Bullshit like she's really like not here for the,
Speaker 1: cops like you, know trying to quote unquote help, her
Speaker 1: and lives, LIKE i get, it you're, tough And jade
Speaker 1: goes started from the bottom And live, goes but you're here,
Speaker 1: now like you're Not drake singing the. Song you're in,
Speaker 1: jail so it's not, good like liv, Goes, Listen, jady
Speaker 1: you're not getting out of here anytime. Soon and why
Speaker 1: are you looking out For felix when he's not looking
Speaker 1: out for, you, Babe and she, Goes, No felix Loves.
Speaker 1: Gianna Loves, gianna that's their. Daughter he would never hurt. Her,
Speaker 1: sure but the crew that he's been screwing, over Meaning
Speaker 1: wheatley's like whole. Crew they're big, time like their, traffickers
Speaker 1: they're murderers like they kill. Whoever like we may not
Speaker 1: be able to help, you but we can help your,
Speaker 1: daughter you.
Speaker 3: Know great, manipulation, RIGHT i was.
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah so next thing we See felix is, in,
Speaker 1: right she led them right To. Felix he's getting hauled.
Speaker 1: In they lay it all out for. Him they're, like
Speaker 1: tell us you supply who supplies? You and he, goes
Speaker 1: why don't you just shoot me right? Here Like i'm
Speaker 1: not fucking doing, that and they're, like, well you're dead
Speaker 1: on the, street you're dead in prison, Too so you
Speaker 1: basically have one, option and the option is work for
Speaker 1: us and wear a wire and like go undercover. Essentially
Speaker 1: so we cut To felix wearing a wire talking to
Speaker 1: this main guy from his.
Speaker 3: Cartel do you wear a?
Speaker 2: Wire like of everything we've watched on this, show like
Speaker 2: would you? Risk would you do? IT i mean if
Speaker 2: it was they wouldn't give you a. Chance not with
Speaker 2: these type.
Speaker 1: Of, people like these kind of Guy LIKE i would
Speaker 1: like in some other, circumstances like remember there was like
Speaker 1: the guy that like they had to wear a wire
Speaker 1: to be, like hey tell us how you use hypnosis
Speaker 1: to rape? Girls like how'd you do?
Speaker 3: That or?
Speaker 1: Whatever Like i'd wear a kind of fact finding, wire but,
Speaker 1: like like not with these guys like loose, rapists, yes
Speaker 1: rapists that are like cowards and, assholes not like mob
Speaker 1: guys that will fucking kill you in a second and
Speaker 1: probably pat you down when they meet with. You you,
Speaker 1: Know like they're also trusting these guys to do a
Speaker 1: lot of heavy, acting Like felix is in there talking
Speaker 1: to the main, guy and like he can obviously Tell felix's.
Speaker 1: Wired he, goes, oh so you're here to warn me
Speaker 1: about a, problem but the cops just let you, Go, okay,
Speaker 1: bye see you. Later and then they just Like he's,
Speaker 1: like you don't want any more, info and then they're, like,
Speaker 1: nope you can go, now and like obviously they know
Speaker 1: he's working with the. Cops so he starts walking out
Speaker 1: and they're like under.
Speaker 3: Scaffolding there's guy they're walking.
Speaker 1: On a street THAT i know is real In New
Speaker 1: york called Like Les, bernard but it's like seems like
Speaker 1: a weird.
Speaker 3: Name it's not a popular name of a.
Speaker 1: Street and there's guys with Like matt semi masked faces
Speaker 1: on bikes kind of coming towards. Him Like felix is
Speaker 1: starting to know what's. Up he doubles. Back the cops
Speaker 1: in the car can tell something's going. On they're all
Speaker 1: watching this. Happen they are not making any moves to
Speaker 1: stop anything from. Happening and then a masked guy on
Speaker 1: a bike just ten minutes with it. By within minutes
Speaker 1: of him walking, OUT i would say ninety seconds max
Speaker 1: of him walking out and just Shoots felix straight up
Speaker 1: right in the, head like he's. Dead, uh this guy
Speaker 1: shot a. Guy this This these guys were like shoot
Speaker 1: this guy in the middle of the day in front
Speaker 1: of cops that are probably watching. Him and the guy was,
Speaker 1: like no, problem, sir and did? It, well that's my.
Speaker 1: Thing where are these guys hiding? Out are they just
Speaker 1: on bikes ready to? Go like they were ready to?
Speaker 1: Go like are they just in a garage or when
Speaker 1: do they get the okay to like come?
Speaker 3: Gallop like where are? They?
Speaker 2: No are they living in the crime? House are they
Speaker 2: around the? Block are they like fake delivery? Guys like
Speaker 2: it's just it's all, yeah.
Speaker 1: They were ready for the signal because this guy was
Speaker 1: dead within like he took three breaths after leaving.
Speaker 3: The place and was.
Speaker 1: Dead and then these guys all on the street start
Speaker 1: everybody starts shooting and they're shooting at the cop cars
Speaker 1: and the episode ends with the back Of stabler's bald.
Speaker 1: Head he's slumped over with a huge ass bullet hole
Speaker 1: in the. Windshield spoiler, Alert stabler. Lives, EVERYBODY i, know
Speaker 1: we don't think that that's actually going to kill, Him
Speaker 1: but then we get to a we get it to
Speaker 1: be continued into A Dick Wolf, Baby and this is
Speaker 1: part one of a crossover episode WITH. Oc LIKE i said,
Speaker 1: this the second, part if you're, interested is on THE.
Speaker 1: Oc it's called An Inferior. Product the episode in An
Speaker 1: Inferior product is directed By Eric. Lacel and essentially this
Speaker 1: EPISODE i read a recap of it BECAUSE i did
Speaker 1: watch it but years, ago AND i just recently read a.
Speaker 1: Recap they, bring you, know they Get, Jaden gianna has
Speaker 1: to be like extricated from an uncle who's like also
Speaker 1: involved in this, crime all kinds of, stuff BUT i
Speaker 1: Think gianna ends up. Okay but essentially the purple magic
Speaker 1: stuff all leads back to this other. Crew and what
Speaker 1: we find out at the end of this episode that's
Speaker 1: actually huge is if you were watching oh see that,
Speaker 1: Season Richard wheatley's ex, Wife, angela who's like a college
Speaker 1: professor or. Something she And stabler kiss in this. Episode
Speaker 1: they've got something going, on so they. Kiss i'm Sure
Speaker 1: bensler fans are, kissed because what the Fuck he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be Kissing. Olivia he kisses this. Woman then at
Speaker 1: the end of this, episode he finds out that this
Speaker 1: woman is the one that issued the hit On. Kathy
Speaker 1: angela is the one that issued the hit On. Kathy
Speaker 1: that's a sick. Bench you find out later that it's
Speaker 1: because she Thought stabler killed her son and she wanted
Speaker 1: him to suffer the way she.
Speaker 3: Suffered But staler didn't kill her.
Speaker 1: Son so This kathy died for fucking no reason and except,
Speaker 1: to you, know give everybody the idea that maybe him
Speaker 1: And olivia are going.
Speaker 3: To end up. Together but that's. It that's the end
Speaker 3: of Trick roll at The.
Speaker 1: Milan and if you want the second half of what
Speaker 1: happens with all the purple magic and, whatever it's in
Speaker 1: this episode of THE. Oc but you, Know.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you did that BECAUSE i Started Born psychopath
Speaker 2: is the next, episode because THEN i was, like why
Speaker 2: would they skip an?
Speaker 3: Episode what's going?
Speaker 2: On and it took me like thirty seconds to be
Speaker 2: like the fucking, Ocean oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah SO i
Speaker 2: was waiting for you to tell me what.
Speaker 3: Happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it's like and it has to do all
Speaker 1: like it was basically the drug thing is all just
Speaker 1: tying it Into Richard wheatley's, Shit AND i think in
Speaker 1: the end it's like he might be making the shit
Speaker 1: that's killing PEOPLE i don't even. Remember but it's all
Speaker 1: involved in that episode and not that.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Honestly the twist at the end of that episode is
Speaker 1: really kind of the big meat but thank. You, well,
Speaker 1: listen we can roll right into. This let's roll right
Speaker 1: into some, crime.
Speaker 2: Baby so obviously or obviously it's based On, hustlers the,
Speaker 2: movie which is based on A New york magazine, article
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of stories to. That this, one
Speaker 2: this crime was really hard to. Research everything was behind a,
Speaker 2: paywall tiny, whatever BUT i put stuff.
Speaker 3: Together it's not some of my best.
Speaker 2: Work but, anyways there's a smaller crime before the meaty,
Speaker 2: crime but it is pretty on the money in terms of,
Speaker 2: stuff just even more. Violent, okay so there's three dead. Men, okay,
Speaker 2: here this is my log line for the. Crime three dead,
Speaker 2: men Two john's and a boyfriend and another random couple women.
Speaker 3: Shot okay is that? Exciting tell me? More all?
Speaker 2: Right, so The Ashanti, Dorsey Kiara, williams And kiera's Boyfriend Cameron.
Speaker 2: Jones they're the main kind of crew and they were
Speaker 2: setting up robberies through an online escort service and then
Speaker 2: there's a lot of robberies that didn't end up in.
Speaker 2: Death you, know like men were trying to play, games
Speaker 2: but like the men were kept being, like, No i've
Speaker 2: just been, carjacked and they're, like, well it seems like
Speaker 2: this escort phone numbers in your, phone and so they
Speaker 2: all these, guys you, know you play stupid, games you
Speaker 2: win stupid. Prizes you don't know what these guys. Want
Speaker 2: but maybe that's why everything should be. Legal so, yeah like.
Speaker 3: You, know they were doing a.
Speaker 2: Scam you, know Like december, thirteenth twenty, eighteen there was
Speaker 2: a man Named Abrahim degaga and he reported a carjacking
Speaker 2: and so then he like admitted to, everything and he
Speaker 2: said that he was brought to this abandoned apartment and
Speaker 2: That jones And williams so Like kiera and her, boyfriend
Speaker 2: robbed an assaulted him at, gunpoint took his, wallet, phone
Speaker 2: and two unique.
Speaker 3: Watches, okay like the.
Speaker 2: Episode they tried to put him in the trunk of HIS,
Speaker 2: bmw but there were too many speakers in there and
Speaker 2: so he was not able to. Fit so he was
Speaker 2: able to, escape which was really. Exciting and then THE
Speaker 2: bmw was eventually found With williams And jones fingerprints all over,
Speaker 2: it and in the trunk they found AN id for
Speaker 2: another man Named Mario, edwards who happened to be their next.
Speaker 2: Victim he was A FedEx employee and was reported missing
Speaker 2: In Newton. County so they Lured Mario edwards into the
Speaker 2: same apartment as. Before and this Isn't Clayton county In.
Speaker 2: Georgia and two of the women were sex, workers so
Speaker 2: it was both the, Women ashanti And, kira and you
Speaker 2: know This cameron. Guy they all began assaulting him, immediately
Speaker 2: and that's according to the COUNTY'S da. Office and then
Speaker 2: so Then kiara beats this dude with a, gun and
Speaker 2: then her boyfriend starts like beating him with a. Taser
Speaker 2: but that's so funny to like beat people with a
Speaker 2: taser and not just tase. Them but, okay so they're
Speaker 2: beating them with these. Items and then they took this guy's, wallet, phone,
Speaker 2: cash and car. Keys and so after they robbed him
Speaker 2: for some, Reason Ashanti dorsey shot him in the stomach
Speaker 2: and he had internal bleeding and he died slowly as
Speaker 2: they ran. Away so that shooting Of mario Happened december,
Speaker 2: nineteenth twenty, eighteen and he was found two days. Later
Speaker 2: On december twenty, first Both williams And dorsey were charged
Speaker 2: with the murder Of Mario. Edwards dorsey also got charged
Speaker 2: with the murder of her, boyfriend and that actually Happened january.
Speaker 2: Second his name Is Dontavius Maurice morrison and she killed
Speaker 2: him during an. Argument and then On january, third a
Speaker 2: man who is forty six years, Old Roderic, crawford who
Speaker 2: was From, barnesville he was shot to death And williams
Speaker 2: And jones are charged for that. Murder so you can
Speaker 2: see how there's just like all of these things happening
Speaker 2: in two months that are all NOT i don't know
Speaker 2: what was up with these. People like the carjackings, happened
Speaker 2: but then they're shooting, boyfriends they're killing random other, people
Speaker 2: they're being, salapi their fingerprints are.
Speaker 3: Everywhere it's, like what the fuck are you guys.
Speaker 1: Doing maybe they're, high because it's, like, yeah you're not
Speaker 1: even trying to cover your tracks that.
Speaker 3: Much, No and so you know they were charged with.
Speaker 2: That like the boyfriend and girlfriend were charged with aggravated, assault,
Speaker 2: kidnapping and possession of a Firearm on top of the.
Speaker 2: Murder so, now so, Now roderick was a father of
Speaker 2: four and he was killed in an suv and then
Speaker 2: they found him behind a mobile home In Upsoon county
Speaker 2: after his family like reported him.
Speaker 3: Missing but the thing is, like this is what's.
Speaker 2: Fucked So crawford's forty six years, old he has you,
Speaker 2: know four, children he's, married his family's looking for. Him
Speaker 2: he contacted an eighteen year old to escort through a.
Speaker 2: Website so it's, LIKE i don't, know obviously, sad you
Speaker 2: don't deserve to, die but you're close to fifty and
Speaker 2: you're meeting up with an eighteen year.
Speaker 1: OLD i don't.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah it sucks you were shot to, death but
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you doing? NOW i feel like
Speaker 2: victim blaming like a lot of the gender like what
Speaker 2: ifs or swaps are?
Speaker 3: Real are? Real? Here Because i'm just, like what did you, want? Sir?
Speaker 3: Yeah BUT i would never blame like a teen who
Speaker 3: met a man off the. Internet i'd be, like you
Speaker 3: know WHAT i, mean BUT i guess that's a.
Speaker 2: Teen, yeah you're gonna go hire an eighteen year old sex.
Speaker 2: Worker so basically like they're in the car and then
Speaker 2: he is, like, Wait i'm getting. Carjacked there's a, fight
Speaker 2: and that's how he got. Shot he was shot in
Speaker 2: the back of the.
Speaker 1: Head oh my.
Speaker 2: God and so his family reported missing and he was
Speaker 2: found in this. Car so Then williams was charged with
Speaker 2: The crawford crimes and The edward crimes as. Well and
Speaker 2: then Both williams and her boyfriend pled guilty to the
Speaker 2: murder of the forty six year Olds. Crawford so Both
Speaker 2: williams and her boyfriend pled guilty to the murder Of.
Speaker 2: CRAWFORD i wrote something rude. Here that's Why i'm like.
Speaker 2: STUTTERING i was like to the old man that was
Speaker 2: soliciting teens for.
Speaker 3: Sex BUT.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe they lied about their, age like maybe
Speaker 1: he thought he was, me like a twenty. SOMETHING i don't.
Speaker 1: Know Now i'm giving a benefit of the doubt to
Speaker 1: a guy that probably was truly trying to meet a.
Speaker 3: TEEN i don't but, eighteen because it's, like how old
Speaker 3: are your four, kids? Sir, YEAH i don't.
Speaker 2: Know kira was nineteen And cameron was twenty, one by the,
Speaker 2: way and they were sentenced to life in. Prison and
Speaker 2: Then ashanti was on the lamb and she ended up
Speaker 2: being the first woman on the most wanted list In Clayton,
Speaker 2: County so you, know cool boss. Bitch besides the two,
Speaker 2: men she also shot two women that did survive, Also
Speaker 2: like so WHAT i, mean like they all went? Crazy,
Speaker 2: Yeah and this was In june twenty, eighteen before all
Speaker 2: the murders and stuff In, december and that actually led
Speaker 2: to a high speed chase and like they couldn't get.
Speaker 2: Her and So november twenty twenty, Four shanty was finally
Speaker 2: found guilty of all these twenty eighteen murders and crazy,
Speaker 2: things and she was sentenced to life in, prison but
Speaker 2: with the possibility of, parole but then also a consecutive
Speaker 2: five years after the life in. Prison So i'm not really.
Speaker 2: Sure there's just so many crimes and not that many.
Speaker 2: Answers maybe you, know it's this was all local. News
Speaker 2: there wasn't like and a lot of these websites looked
Speaker 2: shady as, Fuck i'll be, Honest, yeah like weird. Sources i'm,
Speaker 2: LIKE i guess you're a, newspaper BUT i don't know
Speaker 2: why your, form what's formed like? THIS i don't, know
Speaker 2: but it just seems like these young sex workers it
Speaker 2: started out robbing and then ended up in a lot
Speaker 2: of murders and now in prison. Forever so that was really.
Speaker 2: Upsetting and then, so LIKE i, said, so in twenty,
Speaker 2: nineteen this Movie hustlers came. OUT i was actually In
Speaker 2: london when it came, out AND i saw it there
Speaker 2: In london with a group of, friends AND i remember enjoying.
Speaker 2: Myself and it's based on this twenty Fifteen New york magazine.
Speaker 2: Article the article is Called The hustlers At scores and
Speaker 2: it was written By Jessica, presler and they call it
Speaker 2: a modern Robin hood. Story but it's like the strippers
Speaker 2: stole for mostly rich men and gross men and then
Speaker 2: gave it to, themselves so like not Really robinhood in any.
Speaker 1: Capacity but it is interesting that they talk about this
Speaker 1: one of the victims in this episode as a Robin hood,
Speaker 1: Too like they bring that, up you, know like this
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a Modern robinhood. Story they call
Speaker 1: this guy a Modern robinhood because he steals from hedge
Speaker 1: fund guys and gives to we never find, Out LIKE
Speaker 1: i don't, know but they stealing for, themselves but they.
Speaker 1: Are they're, like you, know at least in the, movie they're,
Speaker 1: like we're just. Hustling you, know we're just trying to
Speaker 1: move our way.
Speaker 2: Up, well, yeah because that's the, thing and they talk
Speaker 2: about it through this. Article but they're like as, strippers
Speaker 2: they know who these men really, are so they don't
Speaker 2: respect these. Men they think they're. Trash they're disgusting and
Speaker 2: they deserve. It they're, evil bad men and they know
Speaker 2: it firsthand and so. That but then of course there's
Speaker 2: people that like end up having children with special needs
Speaker 2: and losing mortgages and like getting to you, know like
Speaker 2: people do have real life consequences to what happened to
Speaker 2: them and having their money stolen from. Them but at
Speaker 2: the end of the, day these women really didn't see
Speaker 2: these men with full humanity because they were traded so
Speaker 2: poorly by, them and they're all lying to their, wives
Speaker 2: they're all spending all this, money like they're all doing
Speaker 2: drugs every night there so.
Speaker 3: And probably treating these women like, property you. Know, yes so.
Speaker 2: Yeah so the main Person Rosalind, keo and she likes
Speaker 2: to be known As.
Speaker 3: Rosie she grew. UP i love a strong woman Named. Rosie,
Speaker 3: yeah this woman's a.
Speaker 2: Psychopath, okay so she grew.
Speaker 1: Up, Okay i'm listening In Rockland.
Speaker 2: County she was always a wild, child ran with a tough.
Speaker 2: Crowd she was raised By cambodian, refugees And The cut
Speaker 2: does mention her family did not comment on the article at.
Speaker 2: All and Then The cut also wrote she is an
Speaker 2: admitted liar with multiple pending felony.
Speaker 3: Charges so but they, wrote but she is the center
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 2: Story so like this is from her, perspective like the.
Speaker 2: Girl the writer spending a lot of time with, her
Speaker 2: but she no one else really commented on the, story
Speaker 2: and she she's a.
Speaker 3: Psycho, okay you'll.
Speaker 1: SEE i feel like this sort of kicked off a
Speaker 1: lot of movies coming from, articles you, know like a
Speaker 1: lot of, That Like hustlers was, like oh, yeah it
Speaker 1: came from This cut article Or New York magazine, article
Speaker 1: and Like.
Speaker 2: Nana, DELVI i actually had a general meeting like last
Speaker 2: year with A Conde nast person and that's their job
Speaker 2: actually is to like find the articles and A Condy
Speaker 2: nast stuff and develop for t which is, yeah, yeah
Speaker 2: so it's definitely a. Heyday, yeah the, ARTICLES i wonder
Speaker 2: When i'm so curious about the journey of.
Speaker 1: Like The, gypsy Like gypsy's whole STORY i feel like
Speaker 1: came from an article Like Gypsy rose because now people are,
Speaker 1: like the joke is it's easier to write a book
Speaker 1: and then buy THE ip and then make A tv
Speaker 1: show from this.
Speaker 2: Book that even if you don't want to write a,
Speaker 2: book then just having an original, thing even if the
Speaker 2: book doesn't do, good like it gets.
Speaker 3: OPTIONED i don't, know it's IT'S i don't.
Speaker 2: Know i'm glad writers are making money because it's hard
Speaker 2: to do, it but it seems, weird but people aren't
Speaker 2: just BUYING tv. Shows, yeah but we have really good
Speaker 2: magazines with such good right like.
Speaker 3: Articles it's like.
Speaker 1: Impressive every TIME i read like a big article in
Speaker 1: Like The atlantic Or The New, Yorker i'm, like they're
Speaker 1: going to make a movie out of. That like you,
Speaker 1: know WHEN i write one of these long like continue
Speaker 1: on page, one d and thirty, eight you know, Articles i'm,
Speaker 1: like this is.
Speaker 3: Going to be a. Movie you, know one hundred.
Speaker 1: Percent we've got some great journalists out there hustling for the.
Speaker 1: Story the.
Speaker 2: Story so her parents kind they did leave her to
Speaker 2: go To Atlantic, city it's not and they left her
Speaker 2: and her brother to be raised by her. Grandparents so at,
Speaker 2: seventeen she drops out of school and becomes in a
Speaker 2: like starts waiting at a diner and then all these
Speaker 2: like employees From Lace Gentleman's club would come in and
Speaker 2: they would tip so much and they all had. Money
Speaker 2: and then the manager looked her up and down and,
Speaker 2: said you should come buy the.
Speaker 3: Club you can make way more money. There and she Loved.
Speaker 2: Lace she was making five hundred dollars to one thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a, night and so then she's, like screw, This,
Speaker 2: Like i'm going Into.
Speaker 3: Manhattan that's where the real money.
Speaker 2: Is so she started going to all these clubs In
Speaker 2: manhattan making money fun strip times and she meets this
Speaker 2: woman Named Samantha fox Born Samantha, barbash and she's a
Speaker 2: single mother from The bronx who started dancing at nineteen
Speaker 2: and is now in her. Thirties and this Is Jennifer
Speaker 2: lopez in the Movie If You're, wondering And rosie Is Constance,
Speaker 2: Woo and so maybe you would, assume, like, oh maybe
Speaker 2: strippers are competitive with each, other but she said it's
Speaker 2: actually better to work. Together these guys like having lots
Speaker 2: of girls at a time and like you have to
Speaker 2: protect each other and, so and everyone wanted to work
Speaker 2: With samanna because she's been in the game for a long,
Speaker 2: time so she had a lot of she had a
Speaker 2: rolodex of. Clients she had a lot of, clients and
Speaker 2: she just knew the game really. Well so people wanted
Speaker 2: to be in her. Circles and LIKE i, said so
Speaker 2: these men are. Assholes they're, rich and they're happy to
Speaker 2: cheat on their. Wives and So rosie is, LIKE i
Speaker 2: grew to have contempt for these. MEN i stopped believing
Speaker 2: men were real and that they were just there to
Speaker 2: manipulate and take money from and.
Speaker 3: That's the whole.
Speaker 2: Thing, like so when the dude is an, asshole it's actually,
Speaker 2: better she, says like a man who thinks you're trash
Speaker 2: and then you make him want to spend his time
Speaker 2: and money on.
Speaker 3: You so is this like a lot of power.
Speaker 2: Games are happening where these men are like, truly LIKE
Speaker 2: i have power over you BECAUSE i have money and
Speaker 2: you're a dumb. Bitch and then the women are, LIKE
Speaker 2: i am truly manipulating you with my pussy and you're
Speaker 2: not gonna you're gonna lose your.
Speaker 3: Family, actually so it's.
Speaker 2: Interesting but then she of course has a you, know
Speaker 2: a baby with her on, again off again, boyfriend and
Speaker 2: so that sucks for, her and she's home for a
Speaker 2: couple of, years and then she hates the boyfriend and she's,
Speaker 2: LIKE i need to make money. Again LIKE i can't
Speaker 2: just be here with the baby with this shitty. BOYFRIEND
Speaker 2: i need to make my own money and get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of. Here so she starts stripping again because
Speaker 2: that is a lot of. Money but uh, oh now
Speaker 2: it's post two thousand and, eight you, know financial stuffs.
Speaker 2: Different a lot of people lost their, money so what
Speaker 2: are we gonna? Do and then she goes new girls
Speaker 2: came in and they were giving blowjobs for three hundred
Speaker 2: dollars and she's, Like i'm not fucking doing. That but
Speaker 2: she Noticed samantha was still there and like she had
Speaker 2: a bunch of women around her And, Lily Ryan hurt
Speaker 2: And Keiki palmer are these other women in the.
Speaker 1: Movie and they were making still a.
Speaker 2: Ton of, money but they weren't working very hard and
Speaker 2: they did they weren't having sex with these. Guys so she's,
Speaker 2: like what's going? ON i want In so what the
Speaker 2: gig was Was samantha and her. Girls Karina pascucci that's too.
Speaker 2: CHI i, mean like the respect we do have for
Speaker 2: like crimes and victim and, research and then the DISRESPECT
Speaker 2: i have for anyone's, Name LIKE i will not pronounce your,
Speaker 2: name like you could be a true veteran win AND
Speaker 2: i will not learn how to say your.
Speaker 3: NAME i can't do. IT i don't know what it.
Speaker 2: Is But Karina pascucci And Marc rosen and so they
Speaker 2: would message people On samantha's client lists and like invite them,
Speaker 2: out let's have, dinners let's, drink and then they would
Speaker 2: steer them towards the clubs where they got a percentage
Speaker 2: of the men's, spending so they would max the cards,
Speaker 2: out like that was the whole. Thing and they had
Speaker 2: one spot In queen's Called, roadhouse and it was managed
Speaker 2: by a Woman Carmine, vitola who eventually did plead guilty
Speaker 2: to unlawfully charging the credit cards of two. Customers but
Speaker 2: so like they would bring them to The roadhouse and
Speaker 2: all these other clubs and then take the credit cards
Speaker 2: like let's, Party, daddy and charge charge, charge and then
Speaker 2: like earn money off of that without having a strip
Speaker 2: dance or fuck these.
Speaker 3: Dudes and so that's like that is a pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Thing but sometimes the men are tired or they're, losers
Speaker 3: so to keep them spending, money they did start drugging the.
Speaker 3: Men so that's kind of what.
Speaker 2: Happens oh, wait are you not gonna Do, wait we're
Speaker 2: gonna drug.
Speaker 1: You this would be a lot easier if you were.
Speaker 3: On the edge of. Consciousness, Yeah So.
Speaker 2: Samantha's innovation was spiking drinks WITH mdma and. Ketamine she
Speaker 2: SAID mdma made them happy and ketamine fucked up their.
Speaker 2: Memory so, yeah per. Perfect rosie treated it like a real.
Speaker 2: Job and you, know she she was a spreadsheet girl like.
Speaker 2: You she had business saclement is that florid? Aclament, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: You got it's a that's a good.
Speaker 2: Word, yeah it's, so you, know she made lists of
Speaker 2: clients and what she had been taking from, them who wanted,
Speaker 2: sex who did?
Speaker 3: It and a lot of them wanted.
Speaker 2: Sex so they started outsourcing to sex workers that they
Speaker 2: found on backpage And.
Speaker 3: Craigslist so now they're kind of.
Speaker 2: Pimps they're, madams their, accountants their, clients they're like they're
Speaker 2: working on. Commission there's just like a lot going. On
Speaker 2: and so they Said rosie's Business samantha's people skills business was,
Speaker 2: booming but the other dancers caught onto the. Market the
Speaker 2: market got, saturated so the girls had to. Pivot they
Speaker 2: realized men just wanted to be around. Strippers they didn't
Speaker 2: have to be in a strip. Club so the next
Speaker 2: thing was like you know so, yeah so it was
Speaker 2: a lot of hanging out and it, grew it, grew
Speaker 2: and then you can go lots of different, places especially
Speaker 2: if you're outsourcing to all these sex. Workers but this
Speaker 2: is where the women started, arguing Because samantha's, Like i'll
Speaker 2: hire whatever girl and this this is like a part
Speaker 2: of the. Movie and Then rosie's, like we can't trust these.
Speaker 2: Addicts so, Yeah rosie's like we can't just have these ransom,
Speaker 2: girls like we need people we can trust, too have.
Speaker 2: Loyalty and then she goes people who have morals and,
Speaker 2: principles which is like very, funny and that's something that
Speaker 2: you see throughout the article where she thinks she's like
Speaker 2: different than, them better than, them morally, Superior like what
Speaker 2: do you mean people with morals and principles that are
Speaker 2: willing to rob in drug?
Speaker 3: Men, yeah just if you do drugs, yourself you're like.
Speaker 2: Bad, Yeah so her big thing is, like we stop
Speaker 2: hiring people we can't, trust like chill the fuck.
Speaker 3: Out but that's.
Speaker 2: It so now a lot of the regular, clients they've
Speaker 2: already been charged so, much tens of thousands of, dollars
Speaker 2: hundred thousands of, dollars like they were tapped out with those.
Speaker 2: People so now they don't even have their usual. Clients
Speaker 2: they have a bunch of random sex. Workers and then
Speaker 2: now they also just have a lot of random, men
Speaker 2: not client, men and so that means they're more unpredictable
Speaker 2: and you don't know them as.
Speaker 3: Well and the money was just never. Enough it was never.
Speaker 2: Enough so then they became increasingly reckless and, cruel which
Speaker 2: would be kind of like a fun name for two, hamsters.
Speaker 1: Reckless and.
Speaker 3: Cruel, yeah and they were fucking up people's lives who
Speaker 3: weren't rich financed cheating, losers but guys that are like
Speaker 3: down on their luck and just like, depressed but like
Speaker 3: do have mortgages and so and then they would wake
Speaker 3: up in their mortgage like, no it it was kind of.
Speaker 3: Wild but the cops of course never.
Speaker 2: Investigated they're, like, yeah sure you were drugged and spent
Speaker 2: too much at the strip. Club, okay, Dude, yeah but
Speaker 2: then one guy called and he, goes, NO i have,
Speaker 2: EVIDENCE i have, evidence done.
Speaker 3: Done there's a. Tape there's a.
Speaker 2: Tape so he taped a conversation he had with one
Speaker 2: of the perpetrators and he begged for answers and he
Speaker 2: got them on. Tape and when they got the girl
Speaker 2: from the, tape she confessed right away because she's not
Speaker 2: a loyal person and so then and, so, yeah she went,
Speaker 2: undercover and the girls knew that something was off because
Speaker 2: they went to the gans of hotel and she was
Speaker 2: just like rushing the, drugging giving him too, much just
Speaker 2: like being too aggressive or they're, like girl like.
Speaker 3: Relaxed so, obviously knock.
Speaker 2: Knock two men came in claiming to be hotel security
Speaker 2: to search their, stuff and they actually did not find
Speaker 2: anything because she kept the drugs in a mite all
Speaker 2: bottle and the security guards didn't want to go into
Speaker 2: the mite all bottle and so.
Speaker 1: You don't want to touch any period. Medication, yeah so
Speaker 1: they Left.
Speaker 2: Rosie but then like she was driving and she's LIKE
Speaker 2: i feel Like i'm being. Followed what the? Fuck And samantha's,
Speaker 2: like shut, up you're being, paranoid so they're. Driving they
Speaker 2: did get, away but the problem, is like the men.
Speaker 3: Didn't want to.
Speaker 2: Talk they didn't want to be, victims like men don't
Speaker 2: want to admit to being, victimized especially by, women and
Speaker 2: so and then the men that did come forward were
Speaker 2: made fun of The New York posts and different media
Speaker 2: outlets called someone a, boob a boob, idiot and, so
Speaker 2: like no one Wanted so it's like no one wanted to.
Speaker 2: Talk those who did talk did get made fun of
Speaker 2: in the, media but indictments did come within two months
Speaker 2: of The New York post. Article so The New York
Speaker 2: post article comes out in spring twenty, fourteen and it's
Speaker 2: About scores suing a doctor who is refusing to pay
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars Tab Jesus, Christ
Speaker 2: AND i know that sounds a lot like to, Us
Speaker 2: but in this cut, thing they were saying like dudes
Speaker 2: would spend like twenty thirty grand and it didn't mean
Speaker 2: anything to.
Speaker 1: Them, yeah AND i can see that twenty, thirty but
Speaker 1: like one thirty five that's like a fucking lot for a.
Speaker 1: Tab it's, like how are you doing? That like just
Speaker 1: cause LIKE i, know bottles of vodka four hundred.
Speaker 3: Bucks what is? That like.
Speaker 1: Five hundred bottles of. VODKA i just don't get. It
Speaker 1: it's a lot of lap.
Speaker 2: Dances, well because they were also saying, that like there's
Speaker 2: no ATMs that like, SCORES i, think and you had
Speaker 2: to do it with the bar and it was twenty.
Speaker 2: Percent you got charged either, way like so maybe that
Speaker 2: like getting cash to. Tip, YEAH i really don't know
Speaker 2: how you spend that much in a. Night but they
Speaker 2: were saying how, like, dude spending tens of thousands of
Speaker 2: dollars wasn't a lot because they would do it all the,
Speaker 2: time it with clients and, LIKE i don't. Know So june,
Speaker 2: ninth twenty, fourteen the cops Cornered samantha at AN atm
Speaker 2: in her, neighborhood then Got, karina Then, marci and Then
Speaker 2: rosie was. Last but also, like, girl don't talk to the.
Speaker 2: Cops So rosie's in there and they took her in
Speaker 2: and the cop, goes you're way too smart and pretty
Speaker 2: like how'd you get wrapped up in? This and she
Speaker 2: laughed in the back of the car and, said when
Speaker 2: this is all, Done i'll take you out for a,
Speaker 2: drink and his demeanor changed, immediately and he, GOES i
Speaker 2: would never take a drink from, you and she, responded don't, Worry,
Speaker 2: hunt you don't have no money.
Speaker 3: For me to. Take why would you say that to the.
Speaker 2: Cops, yeah so they have these four, victims so then
Speaker 2: they had four victims ready to. Testify they also tried
Speaker 2: to let the women know during questioning how this affected the,
Speaker 2: men like one man got fired because it was his corporate,
Speaker 2: card and so his corporate card got maxed. Out and then,
Speaker 2: like you're put on a list that tracks white collar.
Speaker 2: Crimes so even when he got other, jobs he was
Speaker 2: fired really quickly because he's on these like do not
Speaker 2: work like with this person.
Speaker 3: List and then the women were. Unmoved, Fully.
Speaker 2: Samantha, goes we're four hard working, women and because one
Speaker 2: hot shot doctor came, forward like, suddenly you, know we're
Speaker 2: taking this. Seriously they're all, scumbags all these, regulars they're
Speaker 2: losers and they like to have girls around. Them so,
Speaker 2: anyways guess who turns on.
Speaker 3: Them rosie's, yeah waiting for.
Speaker 2: It she's, Like i'm not like. THEM i have a,
Speaker 2: brain a, child and a. Future so she turned and
Speaker 2: in quote she wrote like the want of wanting is
Speaker 2: what's killing. Me but she said but also, said you,
Speaker 2: know hurt, people hurt, people and so those are her.
Speaker 2: Reasonings she wanted too much and also hurt, people hurt,
Speaker 2: people so those are her. Excuses she's Very Jax, TAYLOR
Speaker 2: I like that was the other thing after. Rehab jax
Speaker 2: just kept being, like it's not it's not an alcohol.
Speaker 3: Thing it's a control. THING i have ConTroll. Ishit it's.
Speaker 3: Rage it's actually rage and, control not, yeah you have
Speaker 3: a rage.
Speaker 1: Problem but it's like, okay but you're still like taping
Speaker 1: Your like you're still taping your family and people with
Speaker 1: rage problems shouldn't, drink like, yeah so, yeah so she
Speaker 1: was this is the best. Part so after being interviewed
Speaker 1: for the, cut like she would just call the reporter
Speaker 1: all the time to talk shit About.
Speaker 3: Samantha she like just wanted to shit.
Speaker 2: Chat so like it wasn't even official meetings to, write
Speaker 2: like she just kept calling This jessica girl all the.
Speaker 2: Time but the girls were desperate to avoid, jails so
Speaker 2: all of them were down to make. Deals koreina And
Speaker 2: marcy pled guilty to, conspiracy, assault and grand Larceny samantha
Speaker 2: also pled guilty to those, charges and Then rosie called
Speaker 2: this Reporter jessica and, goes, oh by the, way EVERYTHING
Speaker 2: i told you is fake and a, lie and they, go, well,
Speaker 2: no it's been corroborated by evidence in fact and other,
Speaker 2: people and she, goes, oh, NO i was lying the whole.
Speaker 2: Time you can publish, this but you have to tell
Speaker 2: people it's a fictional. Story it's. Fictional i'm saving myself
Speaker 2: AND i am out for. Myself she pled. Guilty she
Speaker 2: got five years, probation and she was able to keep
Speaker 2: all the money like no. Restitution samantha also got five
Speaker 2: years probation, deal but Then rosen And pascucci were not
Speaker 2: the masterminds got four months of week ends.
Speaker 3: In jail and then five years. Probation.
Speaker 2: Huh then you Know hustlers comes. Out rosie was at
Speaker 2: The Toronto International Film. Festival she's also serves at her LOCAL.
Speaker 2: Pta she's a stay at home mom and lives in the. Suburbs,
Speaker 2: okay she married like her, girl her baby's.
Speaker 3: Father.
Speaker 2: Okay So Hunter harris wrote an article For vulture and
Speaker 2: they were saying in, quotes even if she ran up my,
Speaker 2: Cards i'd still respond to her, text she's just the
Speaker 2: kind of person you want to keep talking, to so, like,
Speaker 2: YEAH i guess she's like charismatic and yeahn and everyone's
Speaker 2: just kind of okay with. It samantha has An, instagram
Speaker 2: she's out and about, guys and her bio Says queen
Speaker 2: Of Wall.
Speaker 3: Street she's a party.
Speaker 2: Girl she did try to sue the J low production
Speaker 2: company for forty million.
Speaker 3: Dollars it was.
Speaker 1: Dismissed oh, wow, Okay samantha party girl Of Wall. Street.
Speaker 2: Damn, YEAH i said she opened a, medspot but THEN
Speaker 2: i couldn't really find any midspot.
Speaker 1: Information, yeah, yeah that's interesting a medspot. Damn oh my. Gosh, Yeah.
Speaker 1: God that movie was such a big deal when it came,
Speaker 1: out Remember.
Speaker 2: HUSTLERS i do remember, it AND i remember the big
Speaker 2: deal in, excitement AND i think people were like Thinking
Speaker 2: jlo was going to get her like dudes in, acting
Speaker 2: but then instead it spiraled her into a career low
Speaker 2: she couldn't have ever dreamt. Us, yeah Both jlo And
Speaker 2: Katy perry not having good years at, all but also still.
Speaker 3: Fine and it's like you both seem like shitty to.
Speaker 2: People you're fighting nuns like people are it DOESN'T i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, well thank you for doing this in depth
Speaker 1: research on these rings of party girls and also.
Speaker 2: Murderers so let's talk about this because obviously there's a
Speaker 2: lightness to the to the Way i'm talking about the,
Speaker 2: crimes to the way they're being reported, on written, about
Speaker 2: and well not really the ones In atlanta. Area obviously
Speaker 2: people are serving life and and they deserve. That they
Speaker 2: shot people and, yeah killed. Them we're talking about. Hustlers
Speaker 2: so no one. DIED i guess no one, died and
Speaker 2: no one.
Speaker 1: Died and a lot of people that got taken advantage
Speaker 1: of had a lot of. MONEY i, MEAN i hate
Speaker 1: to hear like. That you, know somebody loses their mortgage
Speaker 1: over stuff like. That that's. Tough but like it sounds
Speaker 1: like the majority of the quote unquote victims in these
Speaker 1: situations were like had money to, lose if you.
Speaker 2: KNOW i, Know but we have to as a sexual
Speaker 2: assault podcast be firmly against drugging people against their, will of,
Speaker 2: course and they didn't serve any time in, prison and
Speaker 2: like that's why crazy to, me that's really. WILD i
Speaker 2: wonder if there's but also the articles fought like you,
Speaker 2: know like they like A rosie can look at a
Speaker 2: credit card and know what the limit is of that
Speaker 2: card by, weight by, touch like she knows all about credit, cards,
Speaker 2: Watches like that's what they're looking. For so some girls
Speaker 2: like to go TO Tja fridays find. People some people
Speaker 2: are going to highend. Places but you're looking for these
Speaker 2: things and you're looking into people's wallets and, like, yeah
Speaker 2: they just said this intimate knowledge of plastic and credit.
Speaker 1: Cards that's really. INTERESTING i, Mean rosie seems like a
Speaker 1: cartoon character in a lot of, ways and that's Why
Speaker 1: i'm all the claughing a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, yeah all the comments are like sociopath, narcissists and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, noah you absolutely should never drug.
Speaker 1: ANYBODY i think it's like but at the same, time it's.
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't.
Speaker 1: Know we focus on this podcast about people that are
Speaker 1: like drugging women and then sexually assaulting, them and these
Speaker 1: guys are getting a little bit of, molly a little
Speaker 1: bit of k which are drugs people do, recreationally and
Speaker 1: then having their credit cards run. UP i, MEAN i
Speaker 1: take it. SERIOUSLY i do think they should have gotten
Speaker 1: like jail time for, Sure BUT i think it's Like
Speaker 1: the reason we're talking about it a little bit more
Speaker 1: flippantly is just because it's like it's it's not as BECAUSE.
Speaker 2: I also wonder because if all of these establishments knew
Speaker 2: what was, HAPPENING i wonder if they couldn't litigate this
Speaker 2: or like take it all the, way because then THESE
Speaker 2: cd like THESE cd places have deals.
Speaker 1: With the Cops i'm assuming, right and sometimes deals with the.
Speaker 1: MOB i mean like it's, yeah LIKE i you, know
Speaker 1: shouldn't all these places be held responsible?
Speaker 3: Too and is that why these girls?
Speaker 1: Could but the way that they had, it the way
Speaker 1: that they had it set up with these girlies is
Speaker 1: like nothing really illegal is happening yet like they basically.
Speaker 3: That's the whole.
Speaker 1: Thing they're, like we do. Marketing it's. Promoters, yeah it's
Speaker 1: the same way as like In New. YORK i would
Speaker 1: sometimes get on a promoter's list WHEN i live there
Speaker 1: so THAT i could get into a club for like
Speaker 1: a bachelorette party or whatever IF i was planning to do, that,
Speaker 1: Right and THEN i would get text from these guys
Speaker 1: like every weekend like.
Speaker 3: Come sit at my, table come drink the bottles or.
Speaker 1: Whatever and it's, like, yeah if you're getting a kickback
Speaker 1: from the. Business then you're essentially just working as a.
Speaker 1: Promoter then if you're throwing a little bit of drugs into, it,
Speaker 1: Sure i'm sure the place is just looking the way
Speaker 1: because that's just. Partying that's just having more fun and
Speaker 1: spending more.
Speaker 2: Money, ALSO i just feel like these girls should have been, like,
Speaker 2: oh tonight's a, Loss it's, Fine like that's the whole.
Speaker 2: Thing like enough of them wanted a, Party like why
Speaker 2: did you have to drug the others and ruin their
Speaker 2: lives instead of being, like, UGH i guess it's like,
Speaker 2: waitressing like tonight's a Bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Exactly but, no because they got so addicted
Speaker 1: to the, money like the money the want of wanting
Speaker 1: is what she, says, right, like, yeah just like addicted
Speaker 1: to that. LIFESTYLE i think that's like what happens they
Speaker 1: show in the, movie, right Like constance wo gets so
Speaker 1: used to like all the bling and all the fucking
Speaker 1: cool shit that they're, wearing and you, know the expensive,
Speaker 1: life a lot of.
Speaker 3: Gucci, YEAH i know you're, addicted but the drug It,
Speaker 3: yeah the drugging, people.
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think they probably just thought we're not drugging,
Speaker 1: People we're just giving them some drugs to have a
Speaker 1: Good it's.
Speaker 2: Also, like all, right let's say normally you go to
Speaker 2: a strip club and you spend twenty thirty. Grand this
Speaker 2: time you spent Eighty who would believe you, That yeah
Speaker 2: you didn't remember you party too much with the. Strippers you're, like, fuck,
Speaker 2: YEAH i.
Speaker 1: Gotta and THEN i could see why they were actually
Speaker 1: like juicing guys like, too because, yeah there's like super
Speaker 1: super rich people that are making more and more. Money
Speaker 1: but if you go out and you spend eighty, grand
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five, grand like that guy that wouldn't, Pay,
Speaker 1: like you're not going to the strip club for a little.
Speaker 1: Minute you're gonna need to take a, break you. KNOW i, think,
Speaker 1: yeah you won't have something that's too obvious for your,
Speaker 1: wife for your. BUSINESS i don't. KNOW i just feel
Speaker 1: like that's so that's so, wild and like people are where's?
Speaker 2: SCORES i don't know about the strip club locations in the.
Speaker 1: City, WELL i, know LIKE i used to work really
Speaker 1: close to The Hustler, club SO i knew we're.
Speaker 2: House, yeah there's LIKE i always passed some times. Scool
Speaker 2: i'm always passing, Them BUT i don't clock the names.
Speaker 1: Because they moved a lot of them out into like
Speaker 1: Uh Hell's. Kitchen, yeah but Also Queens scores, gentlemen Uh
Speaker 1: west twenty. Eighth, yeah it's like in meatpacking kind of
Speaker 1: or Like chelsea but like over but between you, know
Speaker 1: like between eleventh and. Tenth you know that's WHERE i
Speaker 1: used to.
Speaker 2: Live, well because a bunch of the guys used to
Speaker 2: love going To harlem or there was like one where
Speaker 2: that amateur night's On, thursday AND i really regret not,
Speaker 2: Going LIKE i want to go with someone who has a.
Speaker 2: TIME i, like, YEAH i was about to, SAY i
Speaker 2: like going with people who have a ton of.
Speaker 3: Money that's obvious what you want to do at at strip.
Speaker 1: CLUB i love hanging out with people with money At,
Speaker 1: yeah if they're giving you money to throw, it because
Speaker 1: that's the.
Speaker 2: Thing LIKE i do remember a TIME i JUST i kept,
Speaker 2: missing BUT i know people that had a lot of
Speaker 2: fun just getting stacks of money given to them to.
Speaker 3: Throw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah this IS i, mean Yeah, SCORES i mean
Speaker 1: this is like not far from LIKE ucb and stuff.
Speaker 3: Too, anyway thank you for doing all this.
Speaker 1: Research and we don't have a, guest so let's get
Speaker 1: right into.
Speaker 3: Our post obviously, Ethically i'm questioning.
Speaker 1: MYSELF i, MEAN i can't Believe olivia like just fully
Speaker 1: uncovered the truth but behind her half brother's murder casually
Speaker 1: in this episode while doing a crossover with about a
Speaker 1: full drug cartel involving another unit And.
Speaker 3: Stabler it's pretty wild she does at. All she does it.
Speaker 1: ALL i remember reading that article about The hustler girls
Speaker 1: like a while, ago BUT i completely forgot all of,
Speaker 1: it SO i was so happy to hear you recap
Speaker 1: it again for. Me and, UH i, mean we always
Speaker 1: talk about how we're in the golden age of the
Speaker 1: scammer and the girls you talk about in, this like
Speaker 1: the main girl in the, article The CONSTANCE wu character or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it's like. Classic it's like she's, like, oh by the,
Speaker 1: WAY i lied to you about all.
Speaker 3: This it's like not.
Speaker 1: Real it's, like, okay, Girl LIKE i don't. Know everybody's
Speaker 1: a fucking.
Speaker 2: Scammer, no there's just so many ways to Scare it's
Speaker 2: it's weird because there's so many more ways to get
Speaker 2: caught if you are a cheater, liar like the, internet digital,
Speaker 2: footprint like you're being, tracked all the, surveillance all of.
Speaker 2: That But also it's like the easiest time to scam as,
Speaker 2: well with all of the.
Speaker 1: Things so it's like but then also it's like you get,
Speaker 1: busted you go to, jail you get house, arrest you're,
Speaker 1: anadelvia you're On dancing with The, stars you're still like killing,
Speaker 1: it and you you've literally never had anything any any,
Speaker 1: wealth but now you're a person that people want to
Speaker 1: talk to and BE i don't, know people never enjoy.
Speaker 2: It like her Z way was uncomfortable Her dancing With.
Speaker 2: Stars she was voted out, First like she keeps doing these,
Speaker 2: things but she's just like like tolerated for camp or
Speaker 2: something like, That like it's like silly to be around.
Speaker 3: Her and THEN i guess if.
Speaker 1: You're a real like.
Speaker 2: Glabor, on Maybe i'll continue hanging out with, Her LIKE
Speaker 2: i don't, know, yeah but it is because Like Scam
Speaker 2: goddess was a fun. Show, yeah people will be Scamming, crypto.
Speaker 1: BUT i, guess like WHAT i away from this episode
Speaker 1: also is like if your friend comes to you and
Speaker 1: they're uh struggling with their, sobriety don't be, like let's
Speaker 1: party and just make you feel, better, buddy you, know
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think we would Still olivia would still have
Speaker 1: a half. Brother although you, KNOW i don't really love the.
Speaker 1: CHARACTER i can say that because these are not real.
Speaker 1: People but with the, guys it's like with the postmortem
Speaker 1: of the real life. Story it's like at least with
Speaker 1: the hustler is part of. It it's like watch. OUT i,
Speaker 1: mean don't get if you've got a credit card with
Speaker 1: that high of a limit on, it don't do DON'T
Speaker 1: i don't, know have somebody come with you and be
Speaker 1: your sober, companion because you should not be like getting
Speaker 1: so blocked. Out, yeah well maybe men cover their.
Speaker 2: Drinks cover your, drinks get a little, springy cover your,
Speaker 2: drink make, it don't take drinks from, others like you, know.
Speaker 3: It's make sure your drink doesn't look. Cloudy it's like.
Speaker 2: Hard because there are they are, victims and YET i
Speaker 2: still have contempt like these strippers do for, them like,
Speaker 2: HA i go watch your like we're everyone's, covering like
Speaker 2: we can't ryn so BUT i think switching the genders
Speaker 2: actually proves how ludicrous what they say to victims is, yeah,
Speaker 2: YEAH i, know, like well you were at a strip
Speaker 2: club and your credit carders at and you're, like why
Speaker 2: would you do, That, YEAH i have a.
Speaker 3: Wife where were? You you?
Speaker 1: Know it's like but like and also like you switch the,
Speaker 1: genders and it's like when a woman drogs a, man
Speaker 1: it's usually just to like grab some money and take,
Speaker 1: Off like obviously we're, we don't We in the, episode
Speaker 1: these men are dying because of a totally different. Thing
Speaker 1: but when men are doing, it it's also to like
Speaker 1: commit horrific crimes against the. Women, yeah drag them.
Speaker 2: Around yeah, yeah, no it's still always, worse but it
Speaker 2: is this thing of, like, yeah we're so on, edge
Speaker 2: but like like what are these guys gonna? Do, yeah
Speaker 2: fucking cover your? Drink yeah that's what that's the excuse
Speaker 2: you gave.
Speaker 3: Us we have like scrunchies that are you, know transforming
Speaker 3: them more.
Speaker 1: Like there used to be like a thing you put
Speaker 1: in your, drink like test strips to like it would
Speaker 1: change color if somebody put something in, it like.
Speaker 3: All but it's also again it's like you guys are
Speaker 3: going there to demean.
Speaker 2: Women you don't respect these strippers as, humans and then
Speaker 2: they get one on.
Speaker 3: You, yeah and they get to go shopping and they
Speaker 3: Get if they just didn't drug, people it would have been.
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah it's just the drugging that's fucked like everything,
Speaker 2: Else like if you're just like a stripper trying to charge,
Speaker 2: more Like i'm okay with.
Speaker 3: That that's the. Job it's the.
Speaker 1: Drugging, well in the real life, story it felt like
Speaker 1: they were trying to drug them to have a better
Speaker 1: time in The in the, episode it seemed like they
Speaker 1: were trying to drug them to pass out all the
Speaker 1: way so that they could like get their take THEIR
Speaker 1: atm cards and like do all this, shit you know
Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean like in the real life, EPISODE i
Speaker 1: think they were, like, oh a little, ketamine a LITTLE,
Speaker 1: mdma like let's have more. Fun then you'll spend more
Speaker 1: money in like da da da da, Da whereas in
Speaker 1: this one it was, like, oh they're supposed to pass us,
Speaker 1: out but not stop, breathing you, know like, yeah real
Speaker 1: playing it. Close yeah they really were. Edging these girls
Speaker 1: were edging it in terms of, uh. Drugging but but
Speaker 1: they but at the end of.
Speaker 3: The, day they didn't go to.
Speaker 2: JAIL i guess only the two lowly er, strippers which
Speaker 2: is crazier to me. Too, YEAH i can't believe how
Speaker 2: it worked out for all of. Them one's still In
Speaker 2: miami and one's a housewife like living her, dream not.
Speaker 3: WORKING i don't.
Speaker 1: Know did the ones go to jail that had to
Speaker 1: be the ones that were actually like doing the sex.
Speaker 3: Acts is that why they got?
Speaker 2: Maybe but it still was also like. Weekends it was,
Speaker 2: weekends months of. Weekends. Yeah BUT i have a friend
Speaker 2: who Did monday Through friday work release from.
Speaker 3: Jail oh, okay they would let him go to work
Speaker 3: and come. Back.
Speaker 1: YEAH i had a friend who had to go to
Speaker 1: jail just for the weekend, once and she was like
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people there that just do,
Speaker 1: weekends and but it was like the worst crime anybody
Speaker 1: really had. Committed there was prescription fraud and like duys and,
Speaker 1: stuff but like getting a prescription Path like writer will
Speaker 1: all be in The everglade croc, stamp she will all
Speaker 1: be In Alligator.
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