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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Well, it is now the official

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Speaker 1: time to not only say welcome to the almost Famous podcast,

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Speaker 1: but welcome back to my wonderful co host, Ashley I Connettie,

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Speaker 1: the mother, the podcast host. And you're back earlier than

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Speaker 1: I thought you'd be, Ashley, how you holding up? I'm

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Speaker 1: back earlier than anyone would probably think i'd be because

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Speaker 1: it's just been kind of easy, like I is. That's

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Speaker 1: so weird to say. Yeah, Um, he has been the

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Speaker 1: easiest baby, and I had probably the easiest delivery you

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Speaker 1: could have, so it was the whole opposite of what

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Speaker 1: the nine months were for me. And of course it's

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Speaker 1: easy now because I'm at my parents so there's always

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Speaker 1: somebody to hold him. Jared has been pretty much home

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Speaker 1: full time, so we trade off. We're a good team.

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Speaker 1: But he only cries when he's hungry or when we're

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Speaker 1: changing his diaper. He doesn't really like diaper changes, but

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Speaker 1: like it's all regimented too, Like we know his schedule.

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Speaker 1: It's like every two to three hours he eats during

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Speaker 1: the day, that's when we change his diaper too. And

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Speaker 1: he's such a good sleeper that like, yeah, we're a

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Speaker 1: little tired because like we're waking up in the middle

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Speaker 1: of night, so it's not a solid night's sleep, but

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Speaker 1: he's sleeping incredibly. Uh. He like like the other night

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Speaker 1: he woke up, I went to bed, We went to

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Speaker 1: bed at eleven dirty, and he woke up at five

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Speaker 1: and then didn't wake up again until ten thirty. So

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Speaker 1: it's like I'm waking up once in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the night. It's not bad. Is there anything so far

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Speaker 1: that you haven't been prepared? Prepared for? Only good things?

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Speaker 1: Like I thought that it was not going to come

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Speaker 1: as naturally in an distinctively I thought, like it took

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Speaker 1: me like okay, so Jared, like he was just incredibly

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Speaker 1: comfortable right off the bat, changing diapers, like comforting him

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Speaker 1: and all of that, and maybe it took me like

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Speaker 1: three days to get in the swing of that because

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Speaker 1: the first couple of days, like I am like healing

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Speaker 1: and like recovering, So he took like all diaper duty

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Speaker 1: and like all feeding, and I'm like, oh great, and

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Speaker 1: am I gonna be just like the worst mom totally

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Speaker 1: dependent on my husband for this? But then like I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: show me how to do this, show me how to

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Speaker 1: do that, and before you know it's Yeah, it just

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Speaker 1: felt very natural. And it's so funny that your kids

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Speaker 1: poop doesn't gross you out all you know, all other

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Speaker 1: kids poop would gross me out babysitting or whatnot. But

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Speaker 1: like now you just like wipe his button and if

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Speaker 1: little poop gets on your finger, nobody deal. Is that true? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of honestly, it's kind of like your dog,

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Speaker 1: because like I don't know about you. You may not,

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Speaker 1: you may not be there yet, but I'm grossed out

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Speaker 1: by every other dog's poop. But I could still pick

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Speaker 1: up lois Is and not dry heave. Yeah, right now,

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, it sounds like having a puppy

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Speaker 1: is harder than having gone. I told you you guys

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Speaker 1: just like, everything is being chewed. We have to keep

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Speaker 1: Doston has been so far. I was gonna say, because

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Speaker 1: Everything has picked up all the floor. I'm watching at

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Speaker 1: all times. Um, But back to you, So, Ashley, you

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Speaker 1: just said mentioned that your delivery was about as easy

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Speaker 1: So if you guys have like followed me on Instagram

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Speaker 1: or even just listen to this podcast, you kind of

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Speaker 1: know how terrified I've been of labor and deliberate delivering

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Speaker 1: my whole life. It's been something that like I knew

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Speaker 1: I was just like watching TV in bed. Jared usually

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Speaker 1: and um, yeah, so we head out at like two am.

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Speaker 1: isn't an immediate be honest, like, did you immediately feel

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Speaker 1: something different towards Dawson than what you expected? Okay? So

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Speaker 1: I was fully warned and Jared kind of talked about

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Speaker 1: She likes to lick his feet and like kiss him,

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Speaker 1: But it's very sweet. Ah, this is this is wonderful.

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Speaker 1: You guys are parents, Ashley. Is there anything else you

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Speaker 1: have been kind of writing this journey out with you

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Speaker 1: and Jared and now you're entering into this whole new season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is your moment, you are a brand

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Speaker 1: new mother talking about the birth of your son. Anything

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Speaker 1: I just kind of want to tell everybody at every

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Speaker 1: experience is totally different, Like my pregnancy was awful, but

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Speaker 1: your pregnancy may not be awful. Your postpartum experience maybe horrible,

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Speaker 1: one to like rush into something and like start posting

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00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: them immediately on Graham after we were so public and

427
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: I was like everyone was like, Okay, he was cheating

428
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: on her, and I was like, you know what, he

429
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: was cheating on me, Like whatever. He's a skaking liar,

430
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: he's a paking fraud, he's a cheater, and he's honestly disgusting,

431
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: like disgusting. Has it changed your perspective ale on what

432
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: you're looking for? Like did that lighting you up a

433
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: little bit? Absolutely? It did, And I feel like it

434
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: changed me a lot, like I feel like before this.

435
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I was always like when I was single, I was

436
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: always like I need a boyfriend, and a boyfriend like

437
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: I on a date, on a date, like always onto

438
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: the next, onto the next. This is the first time

439
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: in my entire life that I've been single and been like,

440
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: I really don't feel like dating. I really don't feel

441
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: like finding someone. Wow, I'm happy with myself today. And

442
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: it's cool to notice that as like a person being like, Wow,

443
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: this is like a mindset I've never had yet in

444
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: my life. So this is cool to realize that I'm

445
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: like at this place in my life right now. That

446
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: is That's a that's a win. Typically, I mean, I

447
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: feel like the more and more people we talked to

448
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: you have gone through breakups that typically happens when something

449
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: bad happens in a relationship, but it hurts, and so

450
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: we're sorry about that because I think last time you

451
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: were on the podcast, you were talking about how great

452
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: the relationship was, and obviously that did take a big turn.

453
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: But it also is exciting because you know it didn't

454
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: stop you. You're gonna get back out there in the

455
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: world and you're gonna be touring soon. Outside of this tour,

456
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: what other things are you excited about that's going on

457
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: in your life? Is it your sister doing reality show? Yes?

458
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: So Taylor made her debut onto reality TV. She's on

459
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Awesomeness TVs, UM Next Influencer. UM. She definitely takes off

460
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: for her big sister, stirring up the drama and all

461
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: the fun stuff. She was amazing. I'm so proud of her. Um.

462
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: My dream is to really do something reality with me

463
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: and her because I think that that would be incredible. Uh. Um.

464
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: Other stuff that's going on with me right now, I

465
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: mean I have my podcast, I'm still like doing all

466
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: like the fun Korean stuff. Um. There is some exciting

467
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: stuff TV wise in the works which I'm excited about,

468
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: but I don't want to talk about because I don't

469
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: want to drink. Say, you know, this business like it

470
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: could be going on one day and then the next

471
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: day it could be nothing. So, but there is exciting stuff.

472
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: The tour has really taken over my life because stand

473
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: up is not easy. It's very hard and very scary.

474
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I've worked really hard on it and

475
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be just a big giant party. We're

476
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: having a bunch of really fun people. People are going

477
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: to flip out when they hear who the guests are

478
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: and like when they come out. I don't even think

479
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: my team really wants me to announce who the guests

480
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: are before, but I really don't want to. I kind

481
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: of want to surprise the audience, um, because I think

482
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: people are just gonna flip. So I'm really really excited. Um. Yeah.

483
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: So the tour has just been taking over my life

484
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: right now, and everything else is kind of on pause until,

485
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: like I just get this first show over with. Totally

486
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: understand that that was, Like, I can't think about parenthood

487
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: until I go through labor and delivery because That's what

488
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm scared about currently. We'll deal with the rest later. Uh.

489
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: Just oh my god, congratulate. Thank you. I didn't even

490
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: get to tell you thank you. My last question for you, Karin,

491
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: is you mentioned doing reality TV again. Would you ever

492
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: go back on the franchise. I haven't been getting this

493
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: question a lot lately. I absolutely would. I I like

494
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting I like, I mean I love the franchise.

495
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: It's like like, of course, I don't even know what

496
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: to say, Like, of course I would, I would love

497
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if they'll have me, I'm there you've gone

498
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: on Clayton season. If they would have asked this, he

499
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: seemed like somebody you you'd be into. Um, I think

500
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: I would have. I mean, I'm I think he's really

501
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: cute and really sweet and like, I'm like totally in

502
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: a place where like I like could and should be

503
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: like just putting myself out there again like that. So

504
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: I definitely would have gone if they had asked me.

505
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: I wish they would have. That would have been some

506
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: great TV. You would have fit in real nice. You

507
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: would have really really done well this season. I think

508
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: this Chaney girl thinks she's like all that I would

509
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: have like between you and yeah, yeah, everyone thinks they

510
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: could be the next Current. It's hilarious to me. I

511
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: just laugh. So as we close up here Current. Obviously,

512
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: this tour is a big deal to you for people

513
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: that are really excited about it and want to see

514
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: you live. I know the dates will be announced. Where

515
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: will they be announced? Where can people find out more information? Uh,

516
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: if you're coming to a city year them, Um, the

517
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: best place to find out all the tour information will

518
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: be my Instagram, which is at ce Olympius, my last

519
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: name and my first letter of my first name, see Olympius.

520
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that made sense, but um, yeah,

521
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: what was the other part of the question. Just if

522
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: they were hoping to see see you and if you're

523
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: going to be in a sitting near them, where could

524
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: they find it? So it sounds like your Instagram is

525
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: the best way. Yeah, it is. It is definitely keep

526
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: an eye out. Aw, we'll best of luck with this.

527
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: We're wishing the best, have a blast. We hope to

528
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: see in our TVs again at some point. Uh, and

529
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: we hope it's like the most successful thing ever with

530
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: this tour, and that you come back in a few

531
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: months and you just tell us how everything went so well.

532
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Wishing the best. Current, thanks for taken some time. I

533
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: know you're busy, so thanks for taking some time to

534
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: join us, Yes, Boil, thank you so much. Guys. All right, bye,

535
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: thank you bye. All right, Well let's get into this

536
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Greek cap um. This episode was actually like pretty chock full.

537
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: This is a very eventful episode. So we start out

538
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: with the two on one. This is the weirdest two

539
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: on one ever because well, I guess all the girls

540
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: collectively had an issue with China, right. There wasn't one

541
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: particular one who was after her at this point because

542
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Elizabeth has been gone. Maybe Sierra was the most vocal

543
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: about not liking her, but like in general, it was

544
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: just like all the girls couldn't stand her, so it

545
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: didn't really matter who was paired with her. I thought,

546
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: with them going to Niagara Falls for this day, it

547
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: was going to be like a little bit more geographically intense,

548
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: Like I imagine them on like a boat getting totally

549
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: rained on. It's like, you know, them getting close to

550
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: the falls. But we didn't get anything like that. And

551
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: then so we get Genevieve sitting there and she's just

552
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: talking of out. She's talking about like, honestly, how rattled

553
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: she was by getting the two on one. That was

554
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: their discussion. Then he sits over with Nay and she

555
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: says that she's surprised that Genevieve have been made it

556
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: on the dike because she was talking about packing her

557
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: bags and being ready to leave and she expected her

558
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: to be gone in the morning and that they were

559
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: going to actually have a one on one. Now that

560
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: was completely untrue, right, Like, we don't have any evidence that,

561
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: we don't have any footage, Yeah, we don't. We don't

562
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: actually know whether she said that maybe, you know, like

563
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: she could have like in passing, been like I'm so

564
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: like emotional, like I should just leave, I should just leave,

565
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: but not like in the sense that she really meant it.

566
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: And then she starts saying that like she's an actress,

567
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: which is the most ironic because in the last episode

568
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: she said, Um, I am Meryl Streep. Where is my oscar?

569
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: You know, I am above Meryl Streep. So she was

570
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: self admittedly being the biggest actress in the house. So

571
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: she's just kind of like using her own like what

572
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: she was doing herself and flipping it on the other girl. Um.

573
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: What I found bizarre about this one on one then

574
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: let me know if you feel the same, is after

575
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: that conversation where it was like she's an actress, Um,

576
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: I we have like this connection. He's making out with

577
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: a He's not making out with Genevieve. He sits down

578
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: with the two of them says point blank, Genevieve, are

579
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: you an actress? Which is kind of funny, right, yeah,

580
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean at least he cuts to the point. Yeah,

581
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: And then she's like totally taking it back. She goes,

582
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: I can't I'm so weird it out like why you'd

583
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: say something like that. Then he walks away, says he

584
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: needs a moment, comes back and everything is different like

585
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: what happened when he walked away, because then he goes,

586
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: I can't give you this Rose Genevievel you accept which

587
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: he didn't. I don't feel like he has anything with Genevieve. No, no,

588
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't see the chemistry there. I think it was

589
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's long term. So you know, I

590
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: have three theories actually what happened in this moment. One

591
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: is Clayton already knew she wasn't an actress, and so

592
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: he was asking this just to fill the space or

593
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: just to validate, say a little bit, by being like, hey,

594
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: I asked her the question, and like you have you know?

595
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: She said no, And so you either lied to me

596
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: or she's lying to me. But I'm gonna believe her.

597
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: So that's one is I don't think he ever thought that,

598
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: like after the weeks and weeks and weeks of Sney

599
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: causing this stuff, that he could trust say for for

600
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: this insight. Um. The second is this does happen where

601
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: like maybe he was concerned and he walked the way

602
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: and he talked to one of his producers. No, I

603
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's a bad thing. It's not. That's not manipulation,

604
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: it's not. But like sometimes you need yeah, sometimes you

605
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: need that like confidante, just like you would a friend.

606
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: Like you walk away and you say, okay, I'm confused.

607
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: Here's what's being said. You've seen it. Can you help

608
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: me out at all? Like, can you give me some

609
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: insight into what's going on? I wouldn't be shocked if

610
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: that's what he did. I did it. Often it just

611
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: helps they they know they see and sometimes the producers

612
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: look at and be like, hey, I can't help you here,

613
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, gosh, dang it, Like what are

614
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: you good for then? Um? And sometimes they'll say, you

615
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: know what, this has gone on long enough, here's what's happening.

616
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: You've asked us the question. We want to help you.

617
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Yet Genevieve is not an actress. San's you know, not

618
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: telling the truth. And so he comes back and he says, goodbye,

619
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I bet that's what happened. Um. So you think that

620
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, it's time. Yeah, you've seen it.

621
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Now you're you're questioning it. You finally realize that like Hey,

622
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: this isn't what you thought it was, and so let's

623
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: just give you the break and let you see in

624
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: full what's going on. That's what I've been happen. That's

625
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: nice little inside scoop there. And I think, like even

626
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: watching the show, like that's fine, right. You would do

627
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: that with your friends if you had a red flag

628
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: about a guy you were dating and you didn't know

629
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: where to turn and maybe they knew this guy, like,

630
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: it would be totally cool for you to, you know,

631
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 1: ask them, hey, what do you think is going on here?

632
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: And then then for them to give you their real insight.

633
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what the producers have to do

634
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: during the show when you're the lead, because you don't

635
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: have any other girls, any other guys to talk to.

636
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: It's it's them and you. And so finally I think

637
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: Clayton saw it and they said let's help you out. Okay.

638
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: They were like, we're done with her, Yeah, we didn't.

639
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: We didn't tell you this before because we really needed

640
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: her around. We didn't tell you this before, and you

641
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: never asked us before. That's another thing is like typically

642
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: when I would ask a direct question like hey, this

643
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking is happening. Am I wrong or right?

644
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: They would always tell me. But if I wouldn't ask them,

645
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: then they wouldn't come out and just be like, hey, Ben,

646
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: by the way, like you have a you know, somebody

647
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: acting a fool, Like they wouldn't just come out and

648
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: tell you have to ask them directly. And I bet

649
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: this is one of the first times Clayton had asked

650
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: did you do agree with me? And the fact that

651
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: I thought that this is gonna be a very dramatic

652
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: two on one and it really wasn't. I just didn't

653
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: know how she was. I thought the drama would only

654
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: exist if she stuck around. And so as soon as

655
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: she kind of said I guess going into it without

656
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: knowing how the date was gonna go, yeah, you figure

657
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: it is. And it had out all the makings to be.

658
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: But kudos to Clayton for like not believing some of

659
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: those things and stepping in front of it and saying, hey,

660
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: we're done with this, like this is no longer fun

661
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: or healthy or funny. You've done this one too many times.

662
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: It's time for you to go home. So, as we've

663
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: said before in this podcast, the best leads are the

664
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: ones that step into controversy and drama and chaos and

665
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: settle it and handle it well. I think this is

666
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: a great moment for Clayton as a bachelor. I think

667
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: he handled it really well. I thought he'd eliminated the

668
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: drama that could have been a lot of drama. And

669
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: will you have more drama to come? Yes, I don't

670
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: think this. He's gonna have a perfect slate here coming

671
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: through the finishing couple episodes. But I now, in this

672
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: moment he really did a good job. Maybe a week

673
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: or two too late, but he did a good job. Okay,

674
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Definitely a week too late, a

675
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: week or two too late. Alright, So after the two

676
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: on one um there is a cocktail party rose ceremony,

677
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: and I think like the standout right here was actually

678
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: very annoying for me. It was his chemistry with Rachel.

679
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Rachel just seems to be far and beyond

680
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: his favorite at this point, which is great and fine,

681
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: and like I feel it between them. I get so

682
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: annoyed at her whispering Oh do you notice that? I didn't,

683
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: but I have to pay attention now. It's uh so

684
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: great for those people who like that, what's that like?

685
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: Sexual turn on with whispering. Yeah, you can listen to it,

686
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: like it. And they also have the same thing with

687
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: like eating. Yeah, I'm like, I hate the sound of

688
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: eating and I hate the sound of whispering. Oh it's

689
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: called a SMR. Yeah smr. Yeah, yeah, I didn't notice that.

690
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: I will look now, I will listen more now, But

691
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: I uh yeah, I mean we could go through and

692
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: we will, you know, touch on that on Rachel and

693
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Clayton again later on the episode. I'm sure, but it

694
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: is pretty obvious to me who is front runner is

695
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: at this point even above Teddy because we haven't seen

696
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: a lot of Teddy and I mean, yeah, we got

697
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: to see her this episode and it was a great day.

698
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I think she's definitely still in

699
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: the mix, but I think Rachel has really stepped above

700
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: the group. Yeah. If I had to narrow it down

701
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: right now, I'd say it was Susie, Rachel, and then Teddy.

702
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: The other storyline that comes up during this cocktail party

703
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: is is Mara and her insecurity because she's like not

704
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: getting enough time with him. Um, she starts to like

705
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: talk about being uncomfortable about like what's ahead and like

706
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: who is getting the attention and if they're like worthy

707
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: of the attention. She's she's the oldest in the house, right,

708
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: she's thirty three, and she's showing a lot of insecurity

709
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: towards Sarah, who's twenty three. And I mean a decade

710
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: of difference is a is a big age gap. And

711
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: I remember being the same way in the house, even

712
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: though it was ridiculous because I was twenty six, but

713
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: my friend Mackenzie, who was one of like the well

714
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: one of she was one of my best friends in

715
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: the house, but she was also twenty two. So when

716
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: she got a one on one and I didn't, it

717
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: made me very insecure and I was like, she has

718
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: all the time in the world and I don't. So

719
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: I kind of understand where Mara is coming from, but

720
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: I also think she's villainizing Sarah for mm hmm, possibly

721
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: no reason besides age. We see later in the episode

722
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: that she claims that Sarah said something along the lines

723
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: of not being retty to get engaged, um, saying, isn't

724
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: it wild to imagine that we would be engaged after

725
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: two months? Like, I don't know if I could ever

726
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: do that. Well, during the scenes to the next episode,

727
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: we kind of see, we can't really figure out what's

728
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: going on, but there's definitely going to be something, some

729
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: heavy storyline with Sarah, whether or not Mara's instincts are

730
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: true or not. Did you get that vibe? I mean,

731
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't. The age thing, I know is tough, and

732
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: it typically does come from the older person, Like I

733
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: feel that today I'm thirty two years old. I'm not old,

734
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: but I'm not young. I'm not a kid anymore. And

735
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: so there's things that you feel as a kid, like

736
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: the world's in front of you and there's so much

737
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: opportunity that exists in front of you, and that stuff

738
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: is still true at some level, but it's it's not

739
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: like it was the euphoria. The dream has not died,

740
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: but it just is more realistic than it was ten

741
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: years ago. I kind of know now where what's in

742
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: front of me. So when you go on this show,

743
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: insecurity already exists for everybody. Everybody's good looking, everybody has

744
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: something going on, everybody's making a connection. And so I mean,

745
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: at least in my experience, there was are there was

746
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: insecurity just from being there. Then add on the fact

747
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: that you are the oldest person in the house, and

748
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: the youngest person in the house is getting the most attention.

749
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: I I would say, I mean, I would assume it's

750
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: more jealousy than it is insecurity. It's just this feeling

751
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, here we go again. The world is

752
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: passing me by and somebody else is getting the opportunity

753
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: that I was hoping to have here because I thought

754
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: this was a show for people like me. And now

755
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: do I know anything about Sarah? We don't really yet.

756
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: We've seen two one on ones. We haven't you know,

757
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: learned a ton about if she's ready or not. She

758
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: says she is, she reacts like she is. So and

759
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: if this is being said, we haven't seen it, and

760
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: so I can't even speak to that. I would Uh.

761
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm just always a fan on this show of if

762
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: you're a contestant and you're struggling with insecurity and you're

763
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: struggling with jealousy or whatever it is, instead of pushing

764
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: that away from you, focus on yourself a little bit.

765
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: Speak to yourself to Clayton, Hey, I'm feeling a little

766
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: insecure about being the oldest person in the house and

767
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: not knowing where this is go this goes, you know,

768
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: don't start blaming everybody else. It's not a healthy way

769
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: to live life. It's also not a healthy way to

770
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: build a relationship because now all he remembers from their

771
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: conversation is how she, you know, pretty much tried to

772
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: get Sarah eliminated. Yeah, and just for one last comment

773
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: on this, my gut tells me that Sarah said something

774
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: casually like, man, isn't it crazy that somebody is actually

775
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: going to get engaged after two months? It's a very

776
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: fair comment. Yeah, it's very fair comment. All right, Well,

777
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we will get into Teddy's

778
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: one on one when we return. So they go to Croatia.

779
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: Looks beautiful there, and uh, Clayton says, Okay, we're gonna

780
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: do a one on one right now, And he asked Teddy,

781
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: who besides Amra I think is the last girl to

782
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: get a one on one in this group. And they

783
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: have a great time, just like roaming the streets. I

784
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: like this casual kind of day. And then she she

785
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: previews the fact that later that night she's going to

786
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: tell him about her virginity. She ends up saying that

787
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: her mom had a baby in high school and she

788
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: had the pressure to not make the same mistake. Um.

789
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Growing up, she felt like she had pressure to wait,

790
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: but she's very much comfortable in her decision that like

791
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: she's waiting for love, she's not waiting for marriage. UM,

792
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: She's just looking for that emotional connection. She also says

793
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: that she has never been in love before, and Clayton

794
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: takes all this like really well, I mean, I think

795
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: he's surprised that she's never been in love before. UM,

796
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: but he's definitely not freaked out by the virginity thing

797
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: at all. He isn't. He does handle it well and

798
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: takes it in stride. And I thought she I mean,

799
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: I've always been impressed with Teddy. I thought she did

800
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: a great job at kind of walking into the conversation too,

801
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: by saying, here, here's where I'm actually at, like, you know,

802
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: this is where my life story is. This is why

803
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: I've made this decision. She didn't try to make it this, um,

804
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm a virgin thing, and if she wasn't me Basically,

805
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: I wish I was able to explain what I forget

806
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: how you presented it. But I felt like she didn't

807
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: make it like the topic that was to be focused on. Instead,

808
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: she made about it. Yeah, she made the story and

809
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: the reasoning behind her decision the thing to be focused on,

810
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it has to be a wild

811
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: thing to talk about on national television. You would know, Ashley.

812
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: It's just usually such such an intimate conversation but important.

813
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: She had the right time, you know, like she was

814
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: on a nice casual one on one It was the

815
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: right timing to do so. And obviously I'm not sorry.

816
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: I maybe I am a little surprised. I thought this

817
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: would be a bigger storyline than I feel like it's

818
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: going to be for the rest of the season like

819
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 1: every other but I think they've burnt out that whole

820
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: hum a virgin storyline. It's like totally so it's not

821
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: really a thing that can be focused on anymore because

822
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, cool, like this is dec as you made.

823
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Ben. The one thing that they haven't

824
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: done with the virgin, which there has been so many

825
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: of the past seven years, is somebody losing that v

826
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: card in the fantasy sleep, and I really just feel

827
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: like that is what they're teeing up with with them

828
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: constantly saying I was intimate with both of you, is

829
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: intimate with both of you? I mean like that just

830
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: would normally kind of be something that you is that

831
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: I think that people assume, like we said a zillion

832
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: times in this podcast, I don't think most leads sleep

833
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: with all three people or and I think a lot

834
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: of them only sleep with one person. And who knows,

835
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, who knows like the actual stats on that,

836
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like the fact that they keep saying

837
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: both of you makes it has to be it has

838
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: to be here. I would say this, I'll give my prejudgment.

839
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: If Clayton sleeps with Teddy after she clearly said hey,

840
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm waiting, not necessarily towards marriage, but I'm waiting for

841
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: the right guy, and then he doesn't end up with her,

842
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that was a very poor decision from him,

843
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: one that I don't think I could support. Yes, I

844
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: agree completely. So the group date they like have this

845
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: medieval festival basically, uh, This is where Mara continues to

846
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: get more insecure about like her status there. She ends

847
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: up telling Clayton at the evening portion that she feels

848
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: like somebody, somebody alluding very strongly towards Sarah is not there. Seriously,

849
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: she's not wife material like she is. She's too young.

850
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: She said things that make her raise a brow. Um,

851
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: and this is all going to play a role in

852
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: sarah state. Um. The other thing that comes up here

853
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: is just more time Rachel. He she says she's falling

854
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: in love with him. He's obsessed with hearing this again,

855
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: another moment that's showing that Rachel is a serious front runner.

856
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that happens before Sarah's date

857
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: is Susie surprises him by writing him a little note,

858
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: which he receives when he gets back to his room

859
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: that night, says, meet me at the clock tower. It's

860
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: little like well, kind of like a Titanic reference there,

861
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: you meet me at the clock I wonder if she

862
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: thought that or if that's just my Titanic brain here

863
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: thinking it. Um. But he is so nervous going to

864
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: the clock not knowing like whether he's going to kind

865
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: of get dumped, what's coming at him, if he's going

866
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: to like the person. Then he sees waiting there and

867
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: he is very excited, so so happy to see Susie,

868
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: which again is making me feel like the pecking order

869
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: here is Rachel Susie Teddy. They go up in the

870
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: clock tower to the roof and Susie says that she

871
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: basically feels like she's starting to fall for him, and

872
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: he says, like that is like the most exhilarating thing.

873
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: He's so happy to hear about that. So then we

874
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: fast forward to the next day, which is kind of

875
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: confusing because it was like nighttime, and then we went

876
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: directly again into nighttime. I feel like they may have

877
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: cut out the part where Sarah like Sarah's daytime portion

878
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: of the date. I really do think that they did

879
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: for timing wise. Maybe there wasn't anything super interesting that

880
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: went down there. But we get fast forwarded, supposedly in

881
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: my head, to them going to dinner, and this is

882
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: when Clayton brings up the fact that Mara. I don't

883
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: know that he never mentions Mara by name, um, but

884
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: he's says that somebody in the house told him about

885
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: their concerns about her, her age, um things that she said.

886
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: She gets super emotional, She is very shocked. She says

887
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: it's the opposite of what she said. She says that

888
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: she can see a future with him. She says that

889
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: there's nothing to gain. Um, she has nothing to gain

890
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: from lying to him. Is totally there for him, and

891
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: she says that she feels like she could she she

892
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: feels like she could be engaged to him after their dates,

893
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: and um, basically he steps away for a minute. She's

894
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: like breaking down. She says, it's clear that somebody is

895
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: like upset with you know, like she's upset with anybody

896
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: talking behind her back. Um, kind of like making things up.

897
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: She says she doesn't want to lose him over a lie.

898
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: And then he comes back and gives her a rose. Uh,

899
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: says he believes her and doesn't believe the accusations are true.

900
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: And then we get this nice little tease of her

901
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of walking into the suite with the girls again,

902
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: and it says to be continued, and uh, I guess

903
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: next week we will see the show down between Mara

904
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: and Sarah and we'll see if other girls can back

905
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: up what Mara has said about Sarah. Well, what a

906
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: great rundown with you, Ashley. But we did get the

907
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: scenes in the next episode. It looks like to me,

908
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: the big question is this Sarah going to be the

909
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: next villain, Like, is there gonna be something that comes

910
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: out as we watch where maybe she did say something,

911
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: maybe she's not ready, maybe she's not there for the

912
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: right reasons, and it may be causes more drama than

913
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: expected within the house or around Sarah. Ashley, what's your guess. Mmm,

914
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm kind of torn. I'm kind of torn for drama's sake.

915
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: I kind of want Sarah to have said something and

916
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: the other girls to be like, yeah, she did. I

917
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: think it would make for an interesting end of the

918
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: season because it sounds like we got a lot to

919
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: look forward to, and I think it will be our

920
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: last bit of drama before hometowns where everything just gets

921
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: romantic and then well, and then they'll be the whole

922
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: I slept with all of you and then extra romantic

923
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that. Hey, Ashley, what

924
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: a great rundown Again. We'll be back into a second

925
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: with our resident expert who's been gone for a bit.

926
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to have that's me, that's still me,

927
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: that's actually doing bachelor headlines. It's time for bachelor headlines.

928
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: Ashley's back to break them down. So here's the first

929
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: headline of today, and we got a couple of good.

930
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: One says was about to be announced as the bachelorette

931
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: until Ellen the Generous advocated for the Anna Pappus. Wow,

932
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: what a story. Okay, so you guys probably know Coshell

933
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: from UM selling Sunset, which is super popular Netflix Netflix show.

934
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: She also was married to Justin Hartley from This Is

935
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: Us for four years. They got divorced I think in

936
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: not But anyway, back in the two thousands, two thousand

937
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: eight ish, she was supposedly signed on to be the

938
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: next Bachelorette. She said that like ABC had contracted her,

939
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: they were ready to announce her as the Bachelorette. And

940
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: at the time she was a soap star. She was

941
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: on All My Children, so she wasn't totally random, and

942
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: she actually was in the ABC family because All My

943
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: Children back then was on ABC. But then she blames

944
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: in sort of a way in her new memoir called

945
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: Under Construction, because living My Best Life took a little

946
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: work um, which comes out Tuesday. She she yeah, she

947
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: kind of blames Ellen de Generous for being a proponent

948
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: and advocate for Deanna Pappas to be the Bachelorette after

949
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: she was dumped by UM by Brad Walmack in his

950
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: first season when it came between her and Jenny Croft.

951
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. She She says that it was because Ellen

952
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: was such an advocate for Deanna being the bachelorette. She

953
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: said she was kicked off her spot was taken over

954
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: by Dianna because the fans are really rallying around her.

955
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: The network was listening, her announcement was pulled. This is

956
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: what she says verbatim in her book. She said she

957
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: never got a chance to have to hand out that

958
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: fateful rose. I was in my mid twenties at the time,

959
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: and I was definitely bummed. That is that is some

960
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: shocking news. I definitely don't think it was just Ellen

961
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: backing Deanna that made her the bachelorette. I think that

962
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: she was probably an obvious choice. I think Krischelle was

963
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: definitely less of an obvious choice, being that she wasn't

964
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: even part of the Bachelor franchise at that point, and

965
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: and and at that point, we were only taking bachelorette's.

966
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: You were only making people who were on the Bachelor bachelorettes.

967
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: So I know, Deanna seems like the obvious answer and

968
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: Krischelle seems a little less obvious. But but there you go. Guys,

969
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: um you could have had Krischell Stouse be a bachelorette

970
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: at one point. You know, maybe they should stuntcast her

971
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: now for the next season. It's not too late. She's forty.

972
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: I believe she is newly single, and maybe we need

973
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: somebody with more of a celebrity status to be the

974
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: lead next season to get these writings up. Interesting to here,

975
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: but we know how I played out now, and who

976
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: knows how would have played out if Chris Shaw was

977
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: the bachelorette. Well, next headline is this bachelor lum Hannah

978
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: and cheers on boyfriend Jake Funk recently announced as Rams

979
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: play in Super Bowl. Yesterday was the first time Hannah

980
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: and posted anything about her and Jake. She posted the

981
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: two of them kissing. It looked like in um a

982
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 1: hotel room before he took the field in the Super Bowl,

983
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: which is pretty good. She said, good luck kiss uh.

984
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: There have been rumors over the past couple of weeks

985
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: that they have been dating, and then today she posted

986
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: um a real on Instagram of the two of them

987
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: celebrating on the field after the game during the trophy ceremony.

988
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. Congrats to Jake for winning the

989
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Hannah and for being in what seems

990
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: like a very loving, happy relationship. She seems super happy well, Uh,

991
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: next headline is Bachelor's Matt James. I was here for

992
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: this drills photog with her terrific t shot at pro

993
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: am golf event in Phoenix. It's the Waste Management Open.

994
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: If you were there, tell us what happens. I mean,

995
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: he just drilled him, like I mean Matt, Matt's not

996
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: a golfer. Uh, he was doing like a celebrity shot.

997
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: When you mean drill, does that mean you did hit?

998
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: He hit him? Oh? Hit him hard? Oh yeah. He

999
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: says that he nearly hit the guy in the balls.

1000
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: He did know he so first swing he chunk, He

1001
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: totally whips it, hits about two ft behind the ball,

1002
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: gets up again, swings again toes it right into the

1003
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: photographer sitting in front of him. Like these photographers had

1004
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: no fear that they were going to get hit because

1005
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: they're like five yards in front and ten yards to

1006
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: the right of the guy's teeing off and Matt found

1007
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: a way and drilled him. Uh. It kind of went viral.

1008
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if Matt will be playing much golf

1009
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: publicly anymore after this moment, but he didn't feel bad,

1010
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: ran over and apologize to the guy after hitting him.

1011
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: He did. He felt bad, he said, this is a

1012
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: little strange. He I'm going to sign this ball for him,

1013
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to take him to dinner. I

1014
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: don't know if guy cares about you signing a ball. Yeah,

1015
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how much he does. He also said,

1016
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: I felt bad. I felt it. Next year, I'm wearing

1017
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: a cup. That's what the photox said. He felt bad.

1018
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 1: He did, he got he got hit. You can watch

1019
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: the video. I don't how much a bachelor's signature sells

1020
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: for I'm doubting it's enough to make up for getting

1021
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: hit by a golf ball. But at dinner would be nice.

1022
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: Maybe just give him a gift card, let him take

1023
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: his wife out. I don't know. Um, Well, the Bachelor

1024
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: in Paradise is Marissa Gunns says she's feeling better than

1025
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: ever the comment after Riley Christian split. Yeah, she goes,

1026
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm back, baby, feeling better than ever. I know we're

1027
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: already in the month of February, but this year I've

1028
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: decided to focus on me put me first. Says that

1029
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: the past three months haven't been easy. Um, but let

1030
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: me tell you today, I feel amazing. She's taking time

1031
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: to heal at her own pace. It's the best thing

1032
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: she could do. She said, she would not be anywhere

1033
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: without the amazing support system that she has. Um, and

1034
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: she's thinking everybody who helped her through. Well a headline

1035
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: that happened about I don't know a month ago. It's

1036
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: kind of perpetuated by the media. Amanda Clutes, who was

1037
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: in one of America's favorites right now, addresses those Michael

1038
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: A rumors from The Bachelor. Obviously they're seen like taking

1039
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: a picture together, looked really cute. Well, she now speaks

1040
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: out on it. She said, if they were dating, Um,

1041
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: she told you news this, we wouldn't be like snapping

1042
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: pictures and posing it, Okay, she said, But she isn't

1043
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: mad about the rumors. She goes, I know it comes

1044
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: from all from a good place. UM, but you know

1045
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not happening. She hasn't. You know, she's

1046
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: been He's been a great support system online. Um, and

1047
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: all the fans just want to see them like succeed

1048
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: in life and find love again. So it's been really

1049
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: sweet to like kind of have the fans want them

1050
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: be together. But again, UM, that they wouldn't be posting

1051
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: the love if it was romantic. I was kind of

1052
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: hoping they maybe they give it a shot. Yeah, yeah,

1053
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: like this is disappointing. Yeah, I mean it's been nice.

1054
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: They look cute together, but also nice people. Nice people

1055
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: should get together. Well, Ashley, it has been great having

1056
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: you back. This has been the first episode of the

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast with Ashley as a co host as

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Speaker 1: a mother. Thank you for telling us all about your

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Speaker 1: journey and experience. We'll talk a ton about Dawson coming up, um,

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Speaker 1: but it is nice to have you here. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to be back. Well with that, this time,

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks, I've had to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: just follow my lead, but this time actually knows how

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Speaker 1: to do this. She won't mess it up. But this

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Speaker 1: has been another episode of Almost Famous podcast. We've been

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Speaker 1: breaking down Clayton's season of the Bachelor and what a

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Speaker 1: season it is. Ratings are way down, way down, but

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Speaker 1: we're gonna still be here to break it down every week.

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Speaker 1: You guys for listening to us. Yeah, that's a big

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Speaker 1: deal and and we appreciate it. Well, anyways, I've been been,

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Speaker 1: I've been Ashley Tutulou follow the Benn and Ashley I

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast on Ihurt Radio, or subscribe wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to podcasts.