1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,560 Emily Tisch Sussman: Hey, she Pivots listeners at Emily. Before we hop into 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:09,800 Emily Tisch Sussman: today's episode, I have some very exciting news. 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And before we jump into today's episode, 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:00,959 Emily Tisch Sussman: I want to just. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Say thank you. 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: You are what makes the show happen and why women 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Emily Tisch Sussman: feel compelled to share their stories. I'm beyond grateful for 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Emily Tisch Sussman: this honor and hope we can show the world just 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,560 Emily Tisch Sussman: how powerful these stories can be. It's all for now, 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:21,919 Emily Tisch Sussman: go vote. 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:32,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Welcome back to she Pivots. I'm Anastasia. 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,560 Emily Tisch Sussman: Welcome back to she Pivots, the podcast where we talk 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,240 Emily Tisch Sussman: with women who dare to pivot out of one career 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,880 Emily Tisch Sussman: and into something new and explore how their personal lives 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:55,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: impact these decisions. I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman. I 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,360 Emily Tisch Sussman: don't know about you, but I am ready for some 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: warm nights, fresh meals, quality time. And there's no better 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Emily Tisch Sussman: person to have on than Anastasia ganyas Gellen, the genius 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Emily Tisch Sussman: behind the household pantry staple, fancy Peasant. You may know 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Emily Tisch Sussman: her for her incredible recipes and cooking videos on Instagram 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,920 Emily Tisch Sussman: and beyond. 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I met Anastasia. 39 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,400 Emily Tisch Sussman: Dooring school drop off, and she immediately became one of 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Emily Tisch Sussman: my mom friends, and boy am I glad that our 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: kids brought us together. Her energy is infectious and I 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Emily Tisch Sussman: love how she puts her whole self into everything she does, 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,119 Emily Tisch Sussman: So you can imagine my delight when I found out 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Emily Tisch Sussman: she made a massive pivot from acting into entrepreneurship after 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Emily Tisch Sussman: a series of deeply personal choices and circumstances. She began 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,800 Emily Tisch Sussman: her career chasing a dream many of us have imagined 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,600 Emily Tisch Sussman: at some point acting. She spent years grinding to make 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Emily Tisch Sussman: it in Hollywood and landing iconic shows like Dexter, True Blood, 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,200 Emily Tisch Sussman: Desperate Housewives. 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And more. 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,399 Emily Tisch Sussman: But like so many women who join us on, she pivots. 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Emily Tisch Sussman: Her story took a powerful and personal turn when she 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Emily Tisch Sussman: decided to move back to New York City to intentionally 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Emily Tisch Sussman: build her family and be near her ailing father. Food 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Emily Tisch Sussman: had always been a love language in her Greek American household. 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,080 Emily Tisch Sussman: It was how her family gathered, how stories were passed down, 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:27,160 Emily Tisch Sussman: how culture was preserved, and when her father eventually passed cooking, 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Emily Tisch Sussman: the dishes she'd grown up with, dishes her father loved, 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Emily Tisch Sussman: became her way of healing. Soon it became something bigger, 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Emily Tisch Sussman: so she leaned into that. What started as a personal 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Emily Tisch Sussman: home cooked comfort grew into a full blown brand, Fancy 62 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Emily Tisch Sussman: Peasant that is now in thousands of stores, including Airwan 63 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Emily Tisch Sussman: and World Market. With Fancy Peasant, Anastasia is sharing the 64 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Emily Tisch Sussman: warmth and simplicity of Mediterranean home cooking, making it accessible, beautiful, 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: and rooted in heritage. From olive oil to pantry staples 66 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Emily Tisch Sussman: to recipes that feel like they've been passed down for generations. 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Emily Tisch Sussman: She's turning tradition into a brand that brings people together. 68 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,240 Emily Tisch Sussman: They're so simple that I was even able to make 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Emily Tisch Sussman: one on her instead. Be sure to check out that 70 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,600 Emily Tisch Sussman: for a duet of us singing. This episode is about 71 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Emily Tisch Sussman: so much more than a career change. It's about grief 72 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Emily Tisch Sussman: and resilience, identity and joy and the courage it takes 73 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Emily Tisch Sussman: to start over, not just for yourself, but for your 74 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Emily Tisch Sussman: kids and your friends and your community. 75 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Enjoy. My name is Anastagia Gania Skevin, and I am 76 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: an actor and an entrepreneur. I have a company called 77 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Fancy Peasant, so I make Greek clean pantry essentials. So 78 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,279 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we're gonna wind back, Sure, can you tell us about 79 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: little Anaesthesia? Like? What was she like? I, interestingly enough, 80 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: came from a family where everyone was like super linear, 81 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really good at sports, and really really smart, and I 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was a little bit of a wild card. My family 83 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,279 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was such an anomaly because all of my dad's fronts. 84 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: My dad was born in nineteen forty three years later 85 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the Greek Civil War broke out. He was sent to 86 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a concentration camp and separated from his entire family. And 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the fact that I'm even sitting here in this chair 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: talking to you is like a miracle, which I talked 89 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to the boys about this a lot, like do you 90 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: know where you came from? On both sides were Greek 91 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and Jewish, and the fact that we're even here is wild. 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,279 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: But Dad did something interesting because all of his friends 93 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: went into like the pizza business or just service write 94 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: more service industries, and my father got a full ride 95 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: through medical school, like washing dishes, and didn't even start 96 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: practicing until he was in his forties like my age now, 97 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and did things a little differently, And he was really 98 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really hard on us growing up because of that. He 99 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was kind of like the mentality was like you're standing 100 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: on the shoulders of a giant. You have every single 101 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: opportunity I never had, you better perform. And he was 102 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: not on us at all. But he brought back the culture, 103 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like all the good things. Like a lot of people 104 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that came back from Greece after the Greek Civil War, 105 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they never wanted to go back to Greece. It was 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just like so much atrocity, and he just brought back 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the food and the language and like the love of 108 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: everything being Greek. And my mother did the same. So 109 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like my grandparents came here when they were eighteen, didn't 110 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: speak a look of English, so I was, you know, 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: always around the language, and then I was around just 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,039 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: all my fairy godmothers cooking these beautiful meals from Greece, 113 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I was like, it was all Greek growing up. 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: We didn't really steer from that. It's wild. Like I 115 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: remember going to school on the first day and everyone 116 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was eating peanut butter and jelly, and I was like 117 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,119 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: whipping out a spinacopita. So were you in a Greek 118 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: community growing up or you guys were like the Greek family. Yes, 119 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so I'm first generation Greek American and most of my 120 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: best friends were besides the people I went to school with, 121 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and it was like we went to church every Sunday, 122 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and that family there was really the foundation of you know, 123 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my big fat Greek family. All around Worcester, Massachusetts. A 124 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: lot of people like came from Ellis Island and a 125 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: bunch of them went to Worcester, where I'm from, and 126 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: everything was Greek to me. And I look at that 127 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: now and think what a blessing, because it really it 128 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really defined everything for me. And I think when you're young, 129 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: these formative years, I remember it feeling crazy. When I 130 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was younger, I was like, why does everything have to 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: be so fucking Greek? And now it's like, especially because 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm in an inter faith marriage and all these things, 133 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it's like, it's cool to teach people where they come 134 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: from and then you let them fly and do what 135 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they want to do. But it is a very special thing, 136 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I do think we're like we live in a 137 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: melting pot and we're losing a lot of that. So 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to me now it feels even more precious to teach 139 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the boys the language and to go there every summer 140 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and to introduce them to their cousins and to tell 141 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: them the story about who they are and where they 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: come from. And I always tell people there was something 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that happened having this foundation for me where it really 144 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: alleviated peer pressure for me, because I remember asking people 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: would be like like what are you and I'd be like, 146 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm Greek. And there was something about like knowing who 147 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I was where it gave me confidence. Let's say anything 148 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like drug sex and rock and roll. I'd be like, no, 149 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I don't do that, but like I know who I am, 150 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I know where I come from. So I think whether 151 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it's a spore or religion, like whatever your foundation is, 152 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like it's like I know where I come from, and 153 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I remember meeting people being like I don't think they 154 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: know who they are and where they come from. And maybe, 155 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like in retrospect as an adult, I was like that 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really gave me something powerful. There was confidence in knowing 157 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like where I came from. 158 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,839 Emily Tisch Sussman: Anna Stasia joked about her life being like my big 159 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,679 Emily Tisch Sussman: fat Greek wedding throughout our conversation, and just like Tula, 160 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,680 Emily Tisch Sussman: Anastasia didn't always embrace her Greek heritage with open arms. 161 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Yeah, I mean my parents, and I'm doing the same 162 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to my children, like that line in the Breakfast Club, 163 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Oh my god, are you really going to be like 164 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: her parents? Like I am doing the same thing. My 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: parents ran a very tight ship. It was militant and 166 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: honestly it was like a little ridiculous. Like if I 167 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: wasn't home exactly on time, my mother would be like 168 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: waiting outside like in her robe, Like if I wasn't 169 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like didn't make curfew or something. It was like very 170 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: different than what I would call then my American friends. 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,559 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'd be like, it's they'd get to eat mac and 172 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: cheese and go to KFC. Nothing's Greek and why is 173 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: everything so Greek, and why can't you speak English when 174 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they're around? And now I'm like Grayson's friends will come over, 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my kids friends, they'll be like, that's so cool, you 176 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: guys speak another language. I guess I'm doing it in 177 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a little bit of a different way where it doesn't 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: feel so suffocating to my children, more like a celebration 179 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of where mom and dad are both from this beautiful 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Jewish culture and this beautiful Greek culture. Like what a 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: privilege that you get to be part of it and 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: learn so much from it and explore it. And so 183 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I think I don't hold on to it as tight, 184 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I just try to kind of show them the 185 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: cool stuff, you know that that surrounds the culture. Knowing 186 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: another language is really first of all, it's mandatory now, 187 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like everyone needs to know four languages in order to 188 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: be different. Also, another cool thing about like learning these 189 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: languages from young Like now languages, all this stuff comes 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: very easy to me because Greek is like Mandarin, it's 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: totally different alphabet. Like if you don't learn when you're younger, 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you're never learning it. Yeah, it's just impossible. That takes 193 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: discipline when the other parent doesn't speak the language. So 194 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like up until three, my kids barely spoke any English 195 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: because I was driving the whole Greek thing so hard. Yeah, okay, 196 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so you went to college for theater. I went to 197 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: college for theater. Did you know what kind of acting 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you wanted to do? Like were you always trying to 199 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: get to acting or where You're like, I'm in my 200 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: moment right now, and I'm just trying this out to 201 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: get to something else. So that was like my extra thing. 202 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Like everyone has their sport and their instrument, I was 203 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like part of it was musical theater for like six years, 204 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I remember, like seventh, seventh through twelve, like I really 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: focused on that. I was always in the fall show, 206 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: in the spring show, and then I was just doing 207 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it locally and thriving, which I was not used to 208 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: doing in my family unit like everyone else was like 209 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: thriving sports and thriving. And I started thriving and I 210 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: told Dad, you know, I want to go to like 211 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a phenomenal theater program. And he was like, I'm not 212 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: sending you to college for theater, Like you've got a 213 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: double major, You've got to pick something else, Like that 214 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: is not happening. It was always a huge struggle to 215 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: be an artist in my family. It was a struggle. 216 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: It was a full blown struggle. And I think even 217 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: saying that out loud right now, I don't think I've 218 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,959 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: even said that. But you can send this right to 219 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your therapist if you need to give a lot background. 220 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: But so I knew. I auditioned for a bunch of 221 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: theater programs and then I was told I had to 222 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: double major in order to go to any of them, 223 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I did, and I had a really phenomenal experience 224 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: in a it wasn't It was a musical theater program 225 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with like a concentration kind of in classical theater studies. 226 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So it was really fantastic. And I had no idea 227 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that I wanted to work in television and film at 228 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that point. I was like, I'm going to go to 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: New York City after this, and I'm going to audition 230 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: for like off Broadway and Broadway and you know, all 231 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that kind of jazz. But you ended up in La. 232 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I ended up in La. How did that happen? It's 233 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so funny, right, It was working at a bar at 234 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the time, going to more school. I was just studying 235 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my first two years in New York City after I 236 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: had graduated college with like all of the girl like 237 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: great people that I wanted to work with, and really 238 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: getting like a fringe New York City theater experience, which 239 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was so awesome when I think about how like juicy 240 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and invaluable it was to just really grind it out, 241 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like those hours in the theater, those one on ones 242 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with like these incredible professors and people that had worked 243 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: in Broadway forever. Anyway, I met my manager like at 244 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a bar that I was working at, a Greek restaurant 245 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of course, Milos the Athility, of course, truly, because I 246 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have to pick that restaurant to work at. And she 247 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I was like, you can't just be auditioning for theater. 248 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: You have to like audition for you know, TV shows 249 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and stuff like you want to make money. And I'm like, 250 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I never even thought about it. It never occurred to me, 251 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I did. I started putting myself on tape and 252 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: one of the first things I booked took me to Hollywood. 253 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: It was for a pilot that actually never got picked up, 254 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: but I went there to film that pilot thinking it 255 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: would be like a week and I stayed for seven years. 256 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Oh my god, because it's like that Hollywood's like that, 257 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I need it more really, once you get the bug, 258 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like you're like, I just thought that, like this is 259 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it and another huge thing, like my family was not 260 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: supportive of that move. Wow. My dad's a statistic person. 261 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So I remember before I got on the plane to 262 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: move to LA he was like, so you do understand statistically, 263 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: for you to even make a co star or guest 264 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: star or any type of recurring part, it's one in 265 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a million. And I looked at him and I said, 266 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you do understand. I don't believe a statistic. I was like, Dad, 267 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm a fucking actor. Do you think I believe in statistics? 268 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Like you have to be so crazy out of your 269 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: mind thinking about it in retrospect to get on a 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: plane and move to Hollywood to actually think you're going 271 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to become an actor. And I felt the same thing 272 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: going into the all of oil space. It was blind, 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: but there was no thought in my mind that it 274 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: wasn't going to happen. I knew I was going to go. 275 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And you get there and you're filled with confidence. It's 276 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: not until you're like testing against superstars and in chemistry 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: tests against like big names where like imposter syndrome starts 278 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to what am I doing here testing against like amberhard 279 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: right now? Like I faked everyone out and my dad everyone, 280 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and now I'm here this moment. But like at that 281 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: point when I went to Hollywood, I was thinking, oh 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I got this, Yeah what I do? So can you 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: tell us about that? I mean, it's such a hard industry, 284 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like it is by definition all rejection. It is not 285 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: for the week at heart. I remember I had a 286 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really good initial first run and I think that really 287 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: set like set up the foundation for me. I remember 288 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I had met this new agent. She's like, we'll hip 289 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: pocket you, which is a very common thing. They're like, 290 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we'll hippocket you for like a month. If you don't 291 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: produce for us, then like we drop you, right, and 292 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it's crazy like I had that kind of luck. I 293 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: remember my very first show was called The Game. It 294 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was on the CW and the breakdown was for like 295 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a Hawaiian girl named Asia. And I walked into the 296 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: room and it was like thirty girls that looked like 297 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they were like born in Honolulu, and I got the part, 298 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: but the part wasn't even the breakdown was like the 299 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: description was not me and that was such a big 300 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: thing in my head. I was like, they literally wrote 301 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a breakdown for some of that they didn't pick, and 302 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they picked me instead. There's no rhyme or reason as 303 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to how you work in this career or what happens. 304 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Producers just kind of like fall in love with Emily 305 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: or you know, Anastasia for the part. And so I 306 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: had a really good first run. I started booking Kose Stars, 307 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: which is like where you start, and those are like 308 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: two to ten lines, right, but you've got like you're 309 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: auditioning hundreds of people for those lines, and you're getting 310 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: used to the studios and navigating, and you're reading your 311 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: scripts and you're making fans and casting, which is really 312 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: important because you see the same person you know twice 313 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a month, and you show up for them and you 314 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: show them good work every time, and eventually they do 315 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: give you a part. Okay, So at this same time, 316 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: let's bring your personal life into this. Sure you were 317 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: dating someone in New York? Yeah, my husband. So I 318 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: met my husband my thirty year in college. I was 319 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a junior. We broke up very quickly after we started 320 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: dating because I was in a show and I saved 321 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a seat for him in the front row and he 322 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: never showed up, and I was I was Electra. Do 323 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you remember what show was that? Oh that was Gipsy. Yeah, 324 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so I was Electra and I remember being he never 325 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: showed up. It was in a big theater in Boston 326 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I was graduating. It was a big deal for me, 327 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I was like, that's garbage. I can't believe you 328 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just stood me up. And I didn't speak to him 329 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: actually until senior year, like mid midway senior year, we 330 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: reconnected again. I was in New York for like a 331 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: year or two before I went to LA, and he 332 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: stayed and came to LA to visit me like twice 333 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a month for seven years until I was like career peaking, 334 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,119 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and he was like, you need to say, this is 335 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your dream come true. We can no longer do this 336 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: relationship long distance. It's like getting so weird. It's been 337 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: seven years and he had started dipping into his side 338 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: side hustle, which is he's in a hotel business now. 339 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: But like, we really pushed all the limits, but we 340 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,159 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: let each other really grow. And I think that's so 341 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: important even now because I think I've been with Hunter 342 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: now longer than I haven't been with him, and I 343 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: think two people really do need to grow on their 344 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: own in order to like, they need to be thriving 345 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: individually before they can really come together, I think, and 346 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I think we're both like experts in that. 347 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,679 Emily Tisch Sussman: Something we've touched on and various other conversations is the 348 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Emily Tisch Sussman: conscious decision to start a family. I think for so 349 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,560 Emily Tisch Sussman: many driven women it can feel like this big question 350 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Emily Tisch Sussman: mark that is looming over you until one day you 351 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,359 Emily Tisch Sussman: wake up and suddenly things have changed and what you 352 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Emily Tisch Sussman: want has changed. 353 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And for Anastasia it was no different. But I do 354 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: remember one of the last shows that I did when 355 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I was there, I had a recurring part on True Blood, 356 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I remember talking to someone who was like one 357 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of my heroes and I was like, oh my god, 358 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: show me some pictures of your kids, and she was like, 359 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: oh no, I missed the boat on that, but I 360 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have like fifteen cats, and she like whipped out the pictures. 361 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: There's nothing wrong with that. But I remember thinking, coming 362 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: from this Greek family where I have hundreds of first cousins, 363 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I was like, I'm about to miss the boat on 364 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like the most important thing in my entire life, Like 365 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the work will come, and I've already proved that to myself, 366 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: but like I need to like start to hone in 367 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: on the family because now I'm like in my late 368 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: twice about to turn thirty, and I remember turning a 369 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: corner thinking, I really want this too, I really want 370 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this too. I'm a huge gut person. Always go with 371 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your gut, and I knew when I had to leave. 372 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I actually picked up and moved out of LA within 373 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like twenty four hours. I alwaysay, I committed like career suicide. Wow, okay, 374 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So did you know that you were committing career suicide 375 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: when you did it? Yes? Because of what I'm doing. 376 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: It took me seven years to make really strong relationships 377 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and casting. I had worked on every single network, every 378 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: network I had worked on it. But I knew if 379 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you go back to New York City, You're going to 380 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have to start from the beginning. Even though you've worked 381 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: on all these great shows and you've done all this 382 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: great stuff. It was ballsy for me to get on 383 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a plane and leave. 384 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Emily Tisch Sussman: Life intervened, the personal took over the professional, and she pivoted. 385 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,719 Emily Tisch Sussman: When we returned, Anastasia opens up about how this pivot 386 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Emily Tisch Sussman: and ultimately the death of her father had a profound 387 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Emily Tisch Sussman: impact on what she decided to do next. 388 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:10,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Stay tuned. Shortly after moving. 389 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,920 Emily Tisch Sussman: Back, Anastasia's dad, who had dealt with the chronic illness 390 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Emily Tisch Sussman: for years, started to take a turn for the worst. 391 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So my dad had gotten sick. And that's why I 392 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: actually always talk about divine timing that whatever happened with 393 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Hunter made me get back because I got to spend 394 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the last like two years with my father when he 395 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was going through the worst part of his disease. He 396 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,119 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was diagnosed I think fifteen years before he passed away, 397 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and he had non Hodgkinson foma, and which you know, 398 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my dad was like the healthiest man I've ever still 399 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: probably to this day. Like he was just he was 400 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a real like naturalist, and he really still lived his 401 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: life like he lived in like a blue zone in 402 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the mountains of Greece. He walked every day. He wanted 403 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to walk everywhere. He didn't want to use a vehicle 404 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a lot. He like ate everything from the earth. He 405 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: didn't eat too much meat, like all these blue zone rolls. 406 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: He was like that. So when he got sick, and 407 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,159 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: he was a physician, we were like, what the fuck, 408 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: what do you mean? You have cancer, Like, you know, 409 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we just didn't have We were so lucky. We didn't 410 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have anyone in the family that had dealt with it, 411 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and for him to have it was really confusing because 412 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: he was just the doctor and like our whole Greek community, 413 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and interestingly enough, he was like always really excited about 414 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the evolution of medicine. So no matter what happened, he 415 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was like, yeah, I've had like three or four treatments 416 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so far, like they're going to come out with like 417 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: three more by the end of next year. He always 418 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: had this like really great attitude about his sickness. But anyway, 419 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I came home, I got to spend a lot of 420 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: time with him, and I got to get married, you know, 421 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and have both of our families kind of witness that 422 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and be part of my first child's birth. So Dad 423 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: got to have the experience of having two grandchildren. But 424 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it was pretty devastating for all of us. You know. 425 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: He died too young, which you know, comparatively to some 426 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: friends that I have that are even struggling with disease 427 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: right now at you know, seventy eight feels old. But 428 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my dad was the type of person that would have 429 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: lived to like easy be a centenary and if like 430 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this shit hadn't destroyed him. 431 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Emily Tisch Sussman: So I struggle a lot with that. And so you 432 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: said that after he passed, you went on this eat, 433 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,560 Emily Tisch Sussman: pray love journey. 434 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I feel actually a lot of like entrepreneur stories come 435 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: from this, like you. It's kind of like the classic 436 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: hero story, like person comes up with crazy idea, everyone 437 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: thinks they're nuts for the idea. Then they like go 438 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: away on this journey to get what they want and 439 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they've run into every single like obstacle ever and then 440 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they fall into the abyss and come out on the 441 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: other end. That that's kind of where we are now, 442 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: at fancy peasant, like where in a really special place. 443 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: But initially I had been talking to my dad about 444 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: writing a Greek cookbook when he was dying, and I 445 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was like, I want to make a cookbook that's for 446 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: someone like me, because Greek cooking is very overwhelming, like 447 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: if you're going to make a Spina copy doar a 448 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: black la vah, you think there's like a hundred steps. 449 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,639 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And I never liked to read things and cooking. I 450 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: always wanted a visual So I told my dad, I'm 451 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: coming out with a cookbook. I thought that was going 452 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to be the first thing, and still I haven't made 453 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the cookbook yet. That's coming, but it's going to be called, 454 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,639 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you know, Fancy Peasant, and it's going to be named 455 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: off of you know me and you kind of I'm 456 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like the fancy version of you. Never had any of 457 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: these things that I had, but they all come from 458 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like this peasant village where we're from. And so I 459 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: started cooking online as a way to stay like I 460 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,199 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: couldn't relate to anybody when my dad died. I was like, 461 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my husband doesn't know what it's like to lose a parent. 462 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: My friends have no idea what it's like to lose 463 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a parent. I don't want to fucking talk to anyone 464 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: right now. But I was cooking online and I was 465 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: meeting strangers that were like, meal time is the hardest 466 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,639 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: for me. I lost my son. I'm a chef, and 467 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,199 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: now I'm meeting frozen food because it's too painful to 468 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,159 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: cook because like I'm thinking about his favorite meals. And 469 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: there was this like good grief community forming around me, 470 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like cooking these recipes and just talking about dad, And 471 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,159 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: eventually that kind of morphed into the cornerstone of all 472 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: these Greek recipes that you're cooking is olive oil, like, 473 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and it's Greek, and you always just talk about all 474 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,199 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this great Greek food, like can we get some? And 475 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so I called my two best friends that are also 476 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: green olviously, and I said, guys, do you want to 477 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: go to Avoodio with me and like find I'm looking 478 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: for like some olive oil to give some of my 479 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: followers that are asking for And my supply had died 480 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: when dad died, and so I knew what I wanted. 481 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I went to a bunch of like trusted family firms 482 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that I knew, and I knew I had a little 483 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: bit like of a mommy audience following me. So I 484 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: needed it to be like stuff that I felt really 485 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: good about, saying, give this to your child three times 486 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a day. You can cook with it. And we found 487 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this product that just it was so perfect because you know, 488 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: in Greek cooking, there is no other cooking fat we do. 489 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Our eggs are avocado toast, me mariny are salads. It's 490 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: not a fancy, peppery, over powery product. So I found 491 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this liquid gold that I fell in love with. I 492 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: came back I it had this vision board of kind 493 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of my whole Like for a decade before I came 494 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: out with the product, I had this really amazing vision 495 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: board and on Pinterest, and I came back and started 496 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: putting it together and came up with the packaging for 497 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a fancy and then the pandemic hit and I was like, 498 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: oh my god, I've got hundreds of bottles of olive 499 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: oil in my garage and the country just shut down. 500 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I mean, I'm going through a whole change at this point. 501 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Why did I even get the olive oil? And now 502 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the country shuts down? And the magic and that was 503 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that it was when everyone was cooking online and so 504 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I was so lucky to have this network of celebrity nutritionists, actors, models, doctors, athletes. 505 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,119 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I said, would you mind getting on line with me 506 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,639 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: cooking a fancy peasant recipe and like pumping out the 507 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: product with me? Just then have fun talk about your 508 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Achilles heel, like to keep this in line with how 509 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we started. I was talking about grieving and dad making 510 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: people feel a little less lonely, like Jamie Sigler, can 511 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you talk about what it's like having multiple sclerosis while 512 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we cook this fita and like just help people a 513 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: little bit. It was really weird. It took on a 514 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: life of its own, really Fancy Peasant. The way it started, 515 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,679 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it started by accident. I didn't come into this business 516 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: because I wanted to. It found me, right, and so 517 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we did. And then slowly different people like buyers I 518 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: didn't even know, like Blooming Gills and Sex and all 519 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: these places. They have these people that scour Instagram. Can 520 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we sell it? We have a fancy food department, can 521 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we You know? That's how we started kind of gaining 522 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: traction at brick and mortars, and that is how we started. 523 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: We started up by accident. 524 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,679 Archival: I am stating on this government there filming the first 525 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,400 Archival: episode for The Fancy Peasant at a dollop of Fancy 526 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Archival: Peasant Greek extra virgin olive oil book that beat us 527 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,880 Archival: two to three minutes on both sides until they turned 528 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,679 Archival: golden brown. 529 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,639 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And you stop them. Whatever vegetable with whatever meat, with whatever, 530 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: dippy moors. 531 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Archival: They are all made with our liquid gold our ganic 532 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,919 Archival: extra virgin olive oil. 533 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,199 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: But I started the business totally by accident when my 534 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: dad died, mourning over food, right and really missing him, 535 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,119 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I think staying connected because I was like making 536 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a meal that him and I used to share together, 537 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so I'd be making like a corn meal beta and 538 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it made me feel closer to him. The food made 539 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: me feel closer to him. He was no longer here, 540 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: but I could eat something that felt like, you know, 541 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm connected to Dad right now. And so many people 542 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have that experience over food, And of course the grief 543 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: evolved into just this wonderful audience that really wanted olive 544 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: oil and cooking again is also is just such a 545 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: natural expression of like of who I am, where I 546 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: came from, what I like to do, how I lose myself. 547 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I think cooking is very like transformative. It's been a 548 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: very transformative part of my healing process. I think whenever, 549 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: whether it's like running or cooking or putting all your 550 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: energy into something, it really helped me through the grief process. 551 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And cooking with the kids and telling them about the 552 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: recipes and where the recipes came from. And I used 553 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to cook these with ma Ya yan Babu and now 554 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you're cooking them with me, and you're going to teach 555 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your kids how to make them. I mean, it's tradition 556 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: is so awesome like that and keeping it alive is 557 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so much a part of what we're doing, I think 558 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: at fancy, but we are doing something a little different. 559 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: We're like a lot of these recipes. We've taken these 560 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: old school recipes that are like a real beat that 561 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,959 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: is made with like pounds of butter. We're making them 562 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with like all of that. We've kind of like modernized 563 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: all these Greek recipes and made them a little bit 564 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: more like I hate to sit lighter and figure friendly, 565 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: but you know, we're making them a lot more nutritious 566 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: because we're kind of like we're using all clean goods 567 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and we're super heavy on the vege and the whole 568 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: foods and there's nothing processed. And we all know what's 569 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: happening with the longevity movement. I mean we're seeing it, 570 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and it's a really exciting thing that I hope we 571 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: can actually figure out how to educate people much younger 572 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and make it part of a school curriculum. How do 573 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I eat? What do I do with cale? What do 574 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I do with all this waste? How do I use it? 575 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: You know, I think we're really starting to gain an 576 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: education on like food and wellness and health. It's so important. 577 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: No one knows how to cook and it's cheaper to 578 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: get like really shitty food. So I love what we're 579 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: doing with teaching people how to bring people back to 580 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like whole foods very simply. It's super simple. 581 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,560 Emily Tisch Sussman: After the break, Anastasia gets into the nuts and bolts 582 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,800 Emily Tisch Sussman: of the business. How do you source olives and get 583 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,360 Emily Tisch Sussman: them shipped to the United States? Did she take outside funding? 584 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,000 Emily Tisch Sussman: Who helped her on this massive task? 585 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:52,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: More soon? So how did you build a business? 586 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Emily Tisch Sussman: I mean, importing of food feels very complicated to me 587 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Emily Tisch Sussman: and selling food? 588 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Was it just you? 589 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,920 Emily Tisch Sussman: This was also during the pandemic, right, I know your 590 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,080 Emily Tisch Sussman: sister moved in with you. So my sister was living 591 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Emily Tisch Sussman: with me at the time. She had just had her 592 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Emily Tisch Sussman: first baby, and she had worked for a few startups, 593 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,080 Emily Tisch Sussman: and she logistically helped me get everything over here, her and. 594 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I and No, we were it was the blind leading 595 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the blind. I mean we were working with different graphic 596 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: designers to send the templates to Greece, and this family 597 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I was working with really had this great attitude and 598 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they were pretty educated. So like communication, Like right now 599 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm dealing with like our honey producers, which like don't 600 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: speak a lick of English, And I think about like 601 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: if it had been vice versa and never would have 602 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: worked that way. Like our olive oil producers, the family 603 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that we work with, they just they had been like 604 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: educated in the States and in London, and it really 605 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: made the process really special and seamless. And there's so 606 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: many logistics emulata that are such a navy. You're right, 607 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I mean, importing stuff is a wild a specially right 608 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: now with everything going on in the ocean and delays 609 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and the economy and you know, importings. I've learned a 610 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: lot from it. But so you guys, is during the pandemic, 611 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your sister and her new baby, everyone is living with you. 612 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: There's nine of us, nine of you. We're cooking three 613 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: meal and I don't know why I did this, but 614 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we were cooking like three meals a day for like 615 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: ten people, as if we were a restaurant. But I 616 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was pounding the I had a Greek I call her 617 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my fairy godmother woman living with me, helping me, and 618 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: she was trapped with us on nfortunately for her, yes, 619 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: so like fifteen babies running around. My mom had just 620 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: lost her husband, so she was there, thank God. But 621 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like Maria and me got into this, my fairy Godmother 622 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: got into this rhythm of just waking up and recipe 623 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: testing every day, using Fancy Peasant and pumping out recipes. 624 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I still do not have any marketing. I still do 625 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: not have any pr Everything we've done is organic like marketing, 626 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we're just hopping on the badwagon with like meta and 627 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: all that stuff. But like the only reason I have 628 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a business is because of Instagram. I started cooking. I 629 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: started using my acting skills to pump out my product. 630 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So the way Fancy Peasant works is Anastagia teaches people 631 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: how to make longevity recipes using her products, and then 632 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: people buy them, and whether you ken or cannot buy 633 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: them doesn't. The cool thing about what we're doing is 634 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like we're teaching people how to cook really delicious, beautiful 635 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: food that's really nourishing, whether you can afford our product 636 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: or not buy it somewhere else or use another oil. 637 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: But like what's really cool about it is I never 638 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: felt this in my acting life. I don't want to 639 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: say there's like a service part involved, but like when 640 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: people are like, no, you don't understand, Like I cooked 641 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with my daughter and it's our favorite recipe tonight, and 642 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like it's a tradition now, Like that is amazing. Yeah, 643 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that is such an amazing thing for me because it's 644 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like my roots, right, it's culture building based off of 645 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your great experiences. You're helping them replicate it and build 646 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: their culture. It's phenomenal. So what do you think your 647 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: versions of success have been as you've gone through these 648 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: different phases? Like you went through like three pretty extreme 649 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: different phases, you know, from the acting to building a 650 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: family while still acting in there and now creating the business. Like, 651 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: what is your version of successmen in each one? Your 652 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: definition of success for yourself. I never worked as a 653 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: full time person until I had my third child. I 654 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: struggle with that a lot because I feel like I 655 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: kind of missed out on my on my third guy, 656 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: who's like turns out to be like the easiest out 657 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of all of them. It's fine, but like if I 658 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: stopped the business today, just this new skill set that 659 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I have learned and gained, entrepreneurship for me has been 660 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just as hard as being a mom. I struggle a lot. 661 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I don't like managing five people at my company and 662 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: then five people at my house, and I don't think 663 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: anyone can do all of it and I think being 664 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a woman is really difficult because we are literally like 665 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: supposed to hold it all together. And for me, as 666 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: we grow and as we scale our business, it's become 667 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: very obvious to me, just like I think my children 668 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: need two parents that like fancy Peasant needs more than 669 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just like me, right, And to be fair to like 670 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: how much the business is growing and all that, you 671 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: need a lot of support. You need to have a 672 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really good team behind you. I struggle a lot with 673 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you know, we're at a tipping point in our business, 674 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I struggle a lot with like I have such 675 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a big vision and I wish I was okay with 676 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like just being where we're at, Like we could very 677 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,319 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: much survive in the space that we're in. We're in 678 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like you know, three hundred brick and mortars, But I 679 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just know the potential. And when you know the potential 680 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of something, you've got to like push all the way. 681 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So I'm at that really scary phase in my business 682 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: where I know it's like now or never, and it's 683 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: critical for me to find like probably the number one 684 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: strategic partner that wants to play with me. And I'm 685 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: become this very like cutthrow animal at work. Because you know, 686 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I only have so much time and I'm giving so 687 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: much away, and I don't know. Sometimes I don't feel 688 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm being successful in any of it. I think that, 689 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you know, I think it's really hard to be a wife, 690 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a mom, a daughter, a sister, and then to own 691 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: your own business. My business is my fourth child. I 692 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: didn't want four fucking children. It's so hard, Like it's 693 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really hard to do all of it, and then to 694 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: try to maintain friendships. And by the way, I think 695 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm at the point of my life where like my 696 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: friendships possibly mean more to me than anything, Like I 697 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really feel the need to be like, wow, I really 698 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: need to unload to like another woman right now and 699 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: talk to them about how I'm feeling. And I'm getting 700 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: older too in this business, and how much do I 701 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: want to give to the business because my kids are 702 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: going to be out of the house in ten years, 703 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,439 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So should I give to the business in five years 704 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: from now? Or should I just give it all I've 705 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: got now so I can enjoy them in three years. 706 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,279 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I just go back and forth about a lot. But 707 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: then I look at my family and I know I'm 708 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: succeeding because they are citizens of the world. They're not 709 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just like living in this little bubble. And I do 710 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: think we're doing a really good job at being parents, 711 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and that, to me really is success, just setting up 712 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: these these birds to fly and be successful in what 713 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,919 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: they want to do. I feel like when I hear 714 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you articulate this and like your version of success right now, 715 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: it's more than just building a business. It's the underlying 716 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: culture piece of it. It's educating the public on the recipes, 717 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: on the dinner table, conversation, on the experiences, on the 718 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: nutritional aspect of it. Like, I feel like that's a 719 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: part of your success metric right now too. It is. 720 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: It is. I would not be in doing this anymore 721 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: if it wasn't. It's too hard, this entrepreneur thing. It's 722 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with you. It's the idea is with you. You sleep 723 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,640 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with it, you wake up. I'm at the gym. I 724 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have a notebook at the gym because all the ideas 725 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: come when I'm at the gym or in the middle 726 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of the night, and I write them all down. Oh 727 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my god, spicy chili oil. Where am I going to 728 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: import the chili is from? They need to be from grease? 729 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: What part of grease if I'm coming out with the 730 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: chili oil desamming. The balsama glaze has to follow up next. 731 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Like these are the thoughts going around. That's how I 732 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: know I'm supposed to still be doing it. I'm obsessed 733 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: with it. Yeah, I'm obsessed with this idea of like 734 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just creating more amazing things that like food. Like food, 735 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: clean products are something people are always going to need, 736 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and I just I love expressing myself through food right now. 737 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: That relaxes me too. 738 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,840 Archival: Tonight we will be making a tried and true recipe 739 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,800 Archival: that I am obsessed with. My children and their friends 740 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560 Archival: are obsessed with. You will not find somebody that doesn't 741 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,560 Archival: like it, and that's they're off poultry or bird. 742 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,760 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: It's fabulous. It's less than sixteen gredis. 743 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Archival: We're making butter or not squash bee that with feta, 744 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,640 Archival: something salty, something sweet. 745 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: So get on your happy dance and feet. You've talked 746 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: about the art of living slowly, which is the opposite 747 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: of what you are doing right now because you're throwing 748 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: yourself into everything. But what does that mean to you? 749 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: And how are you incorporating living slowly into your life? 750 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Meal time for me is everything right? So my dad 751 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: did this too. He came home late hours. He was 752 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a doctor on call all the time. We eat dinner 753 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: together almost every night. I do have two shifts three 754 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: days a week because my eldest son plays soccer and 755 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: doesn't get home until very late Tuesday Wednesday. Thursday. Meal 756 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: time is when we sit down, there's no devices at 757 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: the table, and we get to connect. We cook a 758 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: lot together, and we kind of travel a lot together, 759 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and we do things as like a clam and that 760 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really keeps us connected. And a lot of it is 761 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like reminding each other to slow down. Hunter and I, 762 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I mean, my husband is working too, like a few 763 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: different jobs as well, and so I don't know, we're 764 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: in the thick of it. You're in the thick of it. 765 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: You're never going to be as busy as you are 766 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: right now. My one on one experience is on them, 767 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: right with them, right now. They take me out. Nothing 768 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: takes me out of the busyness I'm in than being 769 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: present with my children. I want to get back to 770 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like I'm like, I want to be you. I come 771 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,200 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: back they're so free, like even as an actor or 772 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: as an entrepreneur, we always try to get back to 773 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that place that free space of like nothing's affecting me. 774 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'm not jaded. I'm just free and I'm playing and 775 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I can be myself and like, that's what I love 776 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: about being a mom that I know I'm going to 777 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: miss so much because they're going to get to a 778 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: point where they're conscious of themselves and their actions, and 779 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: right now it's all just like this love hormone of 780 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: just it's so wonderful to be around. When my dad 781 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: was sick, we would put the baby in his arms 782 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and all of his vitals would change. It's real when 783 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you're around children and they're like flooding you with dopamine. 784 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: That is like a gift, you know, and it's really important. 785 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: You have to make an effort to be like, slow 786 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: down and enjoy it. I feel it slipping away and 787 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I have like I'm almost in double digits. In August, 788 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I'll be in double digits with my oldest and I'm like, wow, 789 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I better, like I better become present. So I asked 790 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this question of all my guests, But what is something 791 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: that at the time you saw is a low point 792 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: and now you see it as having really changed your 793 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,319 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: perspective and launch you to who you are hmm. I 794 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: guess I would have to say a low point for 795 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: me was when I was career peaking in Los Angeles, 796 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: doing really well as an actor, probably on my way 797 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to like some huge success, having to pick up and 798 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: leave it all to come and be home with my 799 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: father who was on his way out and starting my family. 800 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: It was the biggest gift. There's no greater gift than 801 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: what that transition was for me, and it was as low. 802 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I had never been more angry or felt more like displaced. 803 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: When I got back to the East Coast, I had 804 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,280 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really been in a Hollywood state of mind, and coming 805 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,720 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: back to New York was it was a rough shift. Yeah. 806 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I feel like specifically your version of success around your 807 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: relationship to your acting has changed a lot. Like when 808 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,240 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you were in LA it was traditional Hollywood success, big 809 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: parts being called, and now your version of success in 810 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: acting is being able to do something that fits your 811 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: timeline and having a small block and then being able 812 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,399 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to check in, check out. Like I feel like that's 813 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,840 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: changed too totally, something really different from my acting career 814 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to this career that I'm really proud of. I never 815 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: thought I was good enough to make a lot of 816 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: money as an actor, and I am going to sell 817 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,880 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: this business that I have on day for like I 818 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,239 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: want to sell it like I want I want to 819 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,600 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: make money from it. And I never thought. I don't 820 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,279 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: know what happened to me in my childhood, but I 821 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,960 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: never thought I'm going to make so much of my 822 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,480 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: own money. And that's not to sound like an asshole. 823 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,360 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: That's because like I'm proud of myself or finally being 824 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: like your worth is you're working to make money. It's 825 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,759 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: okay that you're working to make money, Like you know, 826 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,400 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you get really confused in Hollywood. You're like living paycheck 827 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to paycheck, like I want to, like I want to 828 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: do something really big with this company. And I never 829 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I don't know why. I never thought I was worthy 830 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,279 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: enough to like make as much money that I want 831 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,080 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: to make on my own, without anyone else's help, without 832 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: my father's help, without my husband's help, like they help 833 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: emotionally and all that, but like this is mine. I 834 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,359 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: created it from the ground up on my own. I 835 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: put in a blood, sweat and tears. I gave up 836 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: a lot, I gained a lot, but it's mine. It's 837 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: on my own, and like it's so special to be 838 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,040 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: able to share it with with the world because it's 839 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,800 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: been really hard to build. You'll know, like you'll be 840 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: able to really own that success, can be able to 841 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,440 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: see I don't think I've ever felt that way before. 842 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,000 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I feel that way about being a mom, and I 843 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: feel that way about Fancy Peasant. I'm like, I did 844 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,719 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: these two things pretty well on my own, and they're 845 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,520 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: really fucking hard. Yeah, which is like the best feeling. 846 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Do you think you'll pivot again? I hope so. Of course. 847 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,560 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I had told you my favorite people in the world 848 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,879 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: have had two, three, four, four different careers. I want, 849 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: you know, I want I see a cooking TV show, 850 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,320 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I see a really great book. I see so many things. 851 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,799 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I see brick and mortars. I see so much, and 852 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,160 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: I hope I don't even know yet what the next 853 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,680 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: thing is. Oh, thank you, Anastasia. Yeah, you're so wonderful. 854 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,839 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: This is so awesome, This is so great. Thank you. 855 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,520 Emily Tisch Sussman: Anastasia is still growing Fancy Peasant and sharing her incredible 856 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,480 Emily Tisch Sussman: recipes on Instagram on her account at fancy Peasant. I 857 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,759 Emily Tisch Sussman: cannot recommend her product or her recipes enough, so be 858 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480 Emily Tisch Sussman: sure to go follow and buy and hey, maybe host 859 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,839 Emily Tisch Sussman: a dinner party with you and your loved ones, just 860 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,360 Emily Tisch Sussman: like she does with her community. 861 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,920 Anastasia Ganias-Gellen: Thanks for listening. 862 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,880 Emily Tisch Sussman: Thanks for listening to this episode of she Pivots. 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