Speaker 1: All right, we are back for another episode of the
Speaker 1: Frida Egg Podcast, and we are excited today to have
Speaker 1: Stuart Hagastad as our guests. Stuart won this year's US
Speaker 1: Midam and that earned him an invitation into next year's Masters,
Speaker 1: and he's also likely candidate for the twenty seventeen Walker
Speaker 1: Cup team.
Speaker 2: Stuart, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm excited to get this thing going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So would love if you could tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself, give everybody a little background
Speaker 1: on how you got into golf, and and we'll kind
Speaker 1: of go from there.
Speaker 3: Sure. So, I was watching up to grow up in
Speaker 3: Orange County, California, and I grew up on a golf
Speaker 3: course called Big Canyon. Don's a great guy. He loves
Speaker 3: to play, as I laughed him about like a fourteen
Speaker 3: th SE's of five and played like a twenty. My
Speaker 3: mom's the closet athletic one in the family. She you know,
Speaker 3: she'll never admit it, but every time I see it
Speaker 3: throw footballor hit a golf ball, it's right up the
Speaker 3: middle or with a perfect spiral. So I think between
Speaker 3: the two of them, you know, I between those two
Speaker 3: things and growing up on a golf course. I kind
Speaker 3: of just I just really gravitated towards the game. It
Speaker 3: was this kid. It was pretty good when he was young.
Speaker 3: He would always play by himself, and I'm sure he
Speaker 3: was playing worst ball or playing two balls or something,
Speaker 3: but I don't remember this, but I guess in ninety seven,
Speaker 3: when I was watching The Masters on TV, I told
Speaker 3: my parents that that was Tiger and that's the that's
Speaker 3: the story that that they like to kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: refer back to. You know, they knew pretty early that
Speaker 3: I was, you know, pretty interested in the game. So
Speaker 3: my dad went to at Sea and I've been doing
Speaker 3: the football game since I was young. My middle school
Speaker 3: in early high school years were the Reggie Bush and
Speaker 3: Liner and Pete Carroll days. So I don't think I had,
Speaker 3: you know, much of a choice of where I was
Speaker 3: gonna end up going. So I went to see. I
Speaker 3: was a busney major. Loved playing golf, but I realized
Speaker 3: pretty quickly that there was a lot of talent out there.
Speaker 3: So I have the opportunity to work a couple of
Speaker 3: spots when I was in college over the summer, and
Speaker 3: I knew once I graduated at wanted to stay competitive,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't quite sure how I would do that.
Speaker 3: Now aggressively, I would pursue you know, Amber golf, and
Speaker 3: I think just after college it really made me realize
Speaker 3: just how much I love the game and I'm lucky
Speaker 3: enough to still be in love with it now. So
Speaker 3: it's it's been a lot of fun. It's been a
Speaker 3: great couple of years. But excited for the next chapter
Speaker 3: kind of going forward for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of ams that don't have the game
Speaker 1: to turn pro. It's a you know, me being one
Speaker 1: of them. Just being able to get the competitive juices
Speaker 1: flowing while you're working, while you have a job. It
Speaker 1: just is it is great to you know, get out
Speaker 1: and enjoy competition and uh, you know you've got You've
Speaker 1: had quite the career. So tell us a little bit about,
Speaker 1: you know, playing at USC and what that was like.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, you know, we we had a great team
Speaker 3: when I was there. Coach Samary and I have a
Speaker 3: great relationship. When I came in. I don't know what
Speaker 3: we were ranked, but it was it was kind of
Speaker 3: there with the teams of the Tonals, like the Oklahoma
Speaker 3: States and the Georgia had a really good team. I
Speaker 3: think if the keris English from Russell Henley, think Hudson
Speaker 3: was there Oklahoma State. The team was littered with good players.
Speaker 3: It was like the Leon brothers and Trent White Killer
Speaker 3: and Shinea iron House and Peter u Line and I
Speaker 3: think Ricky was there my freshman year. Morgan Hoffman was there.
Speaker 3: It was just was crazy. So the expectation was high
Speaker 3: on the kids on the SC team. I think the
Speaker 3: year before I got there they had bib All Americans
Speaker 3: or something close to it. They had Matt Giles, Tom Glesmeyer,
Speaker 3: Jimmy Lovemark, Tim Sluter. I think Rory he left the
Speaker 3: year before. One of your guys. I think Ryan Linton
Speaker 3: was on the team, I think the year before. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the standard was high, so it was it was great,
Speaker 3: and it was just it was a great opportunity to
Speaker 3: kind of figure out just how good I really was
Speaker 3: compared to the best guys out there. And I love
Speaker 3: coach Sambry and funny how as you get older, you
Speaker 3: began that kind of appreciate, you know what he told
Speaker 3: you a lot more and he was kind of like
Speaker 3: ste like, you're good but you need to get a
Speaker 3: lot better, and you need to do it in hurry.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's interesting. I hear from our earlier podcast.
Speaker 1: Justin Silverstein was on USC's assistant coach.
Speaker 2: He says that you are one.
Speaker 1: Of the best iron players statistically they've ever had there.
Speaker 3: That's probably because of how short I hit it. I
Speaker 3: think in afford to miss, you know, miss my numbers
Speaker 3: very often. But I think he's giving me a lot
Speaker 3: more credit than I deserve with that one. I've seen
Speaker 3: some of the boys, and I love coach and I
Speaker 3: love Justin. But I guess I'll just take that compliment
Speaker 3: and can run with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you know you mentioned Tom.
Speaker 3: I'll take what I can get.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Tom Glismeyer. That's the name I haven't heard
Speaker 1: in forever. Do you know what he's up to nowadays?
Speaker 3: I think he I think he is either working to
Speaker 3: get his amateur status back. I know he's he's kind
Speaker 3: of moved on from professional golf. I haven't really talked
Speaker 3: to him. I can find out. I know a few
Speaker 3: of the boys he's close with. Last I remember, I
Speaker 3: thought he was either I want to say, like in
Speaker 3: Texas or maybe back home in Colorado. But Tom was
Speaker 3: really really bright, and he was kind of one of
Speaker 3: the guys I remember when I was being recruited that
Speaker 3: you know, he always and I said, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: there's life beyond golf. I'm not gonna do the communication
Speaker 3: major thing. I'm gonna be an econe major. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: set myself up to the feature. And I've always had
Speaker 3: a ton of respect for Tom. He's he's he's just done.
Speaker 3: And he was even he was even more stubly in college.
Speaker 3: He was. He was definitely one of the guys that
Speaker 3: I kind of looked up to, both from my golf
Speaker 3: and from a from a character standpoint.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those guys that's you wonder how
Speaker 1: how it didn't get how it didn't work out, But
Speaker 1: that's golf, you know, happens all the time.
Speaker 2: It's so you know, when you won the US mid m.
Speaker 1: You know there there's the infamous video of Justin Thomas
Speaker 1: celebrating going nuts. You know her Jordan Speeth and you
Speaker 1: guys are are great, great buddies. What would you say?
Speaker 1: You know the difference in your game and their game
Speaker 1: is and you know how you know how evident is it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say a few things. You know,
Speaker 3: I've been working up and know all those kids since
Speaker 3: we've put juniored off together, and first of all, touch
Speaker 3: on Jordan because that's that's the more obvious one to me.
Speaker 3: Jordan's been the the best clutter I've ever seen since
Speaker 3: he was fifteen. I like to here's a quick fun
Speaker 3: story for you. So I don't know why they had
Speaker 3: a playoff for fourth place in this Texas Union Golf
Speaker 3: Tour event that we played in a long time ago,
Speaker 3: but basically they wanted to give away the trophy, so
Speaker 3: they threw this fourteen year old kid out with me
Speaker 3: and google it. I'm sure the pictures still up. I
Speaker 3: was wearing black shoes and a white belts, just a
Speaker 3: rookie of stick all around. I had this big surfer
Speaker 3: atro thing that I thought was cool back in the day.
Speaker 3: But we end up going out to this hole. I
Speaker 3: make it great up and down. He you know, doesn't
Speaker 3: get up and down. I end up beating it, and
Speaker 3: I like to continually remind him just how you know,
Speaker 3: indicative that was of both of our careers. You know.
Speaker 3: Now I'm sitting here working and he's on tour, you know,
Speaker 3: doing whatever he wants. But now Jordan is the best
Speaker 3: putter I've ever seen. And when you make twenty five
Speaker 3: putters on a somewhat regular basis, it makes your mid
Speaker 3: and long irons seem I think a lot better than
Speaker 3: they are. I mean, it's not like he's had by
Speaker 3: any stretch, but you know, when you hit it to
Speaker 3: the middle of the green, it makes it pretty stress
Speaker 3: for you when you're as good of a putter's ears.
Speaker 3: And the other thing too, is he has this innate
Speaker 3: ability from what I've seen ultimately played together and on TV,
Speaker 3: but his short game only gets better under pressure. A
Speaker 3: lot of the better players have it where you know
Speaker 3: when the chips are down and when you know it's
Speaker 3: coming down to the fourteenth, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen hole.
Speaker 3: He saw it a few years ago at the Masters.
Speaker 3: I mean that up and down on eighteen in the
Speaker 3: third round is impossibly hard, and as a better player,
Speaker 3: you understand just how good that is that he's in
Speaker 3: a he's just so so efficient around greens, and then
Speaker 3: as far as JT goes, he just has so much
Speaker 3: speed and it's he's just very, very efficient. And I've
Speaker 3: always kind of said for a while, he's just as
Speaker 3: good as Jordan, just maybe a couple of years behind
Speaker 3: in terms of kind of growth on the golf course,
Speaker 3: but he'll be right there. And I it would shock
Speaker 3: me if he wasn't sewn inside the top five eight
Speaker 3: town in the world. And then the last thing is
Speaker 3: just between the two of them and a lot of
Speaker 3: the guys out there is just believe in themselves. You know,
Speaker 3: they're like the idea of of not being the top
Speaker 3: player in the world just isn't a thing. You know,
Speaker 3: we go out and you know you're you're a good player,
Speaker 3: and you get you know, three four, five hundred power
Speaker 3: after the winter months, and you know it's kind of like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, this is it okay to be this low?
Speaker 3: I mean, those guys, shoot, they get it to seven, eight,
Speaker 3: nine and PGA Tour events and they get their pedal
Speaker 3: to the floor. So I think it's kind of a
Speaker 3: combo of those things.
Speaker 1: For sure, I like get scared once I hit like
Speaker 1: four under par. It's like, WHOA don't want don't want
Speaker 1: to screw this up.
Speaker 4: I'm good for about six or seven, and then it's
Speaker 4: kind of like, oh, who do you love to keep
Speaker 4: it going.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is quite ironic, how like you get there and
Speaker 1: then for some reason your brain like, oh, just don't
Speaker 1: mess this up and rather than being like, oh, just
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing, you know, it's yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3: The more times you do it. You know, I've gotten
Speaker 3: better over the years, but you can always get better.
Speaker 3: But it's wild to me just to get those boys
Speaker 3: on a tour when they're just you know, casually eight
Speaker 3: or nine under par on like fourteen or fifteen. And
Speaker 3: you know, every every golf blog out there, including myself,
Speaker 3: is just like, oh, boys, you're taking it low. See
Speaker 3: all love it can go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know they were Are you a little
Speaker 1: you know, upset you didn't get an invite to spring
Speaker 1: Break twenty sixteen?
Speaker 2: And do you think you could have added some.
Speaker 1: Valuable you know, you know, a value add to the
Speaker 1: experience if you could get a call for twenty seventeen, Hey.
Speaker 3: I think I could add value. But you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I've thought about this before, and you know, buddies that
Speaker 3: have kind of kind of asked me about it. And
Speaker 3: I love having my life be very private and I
Speaker 3: try and for the most part kind of stay off
Speaker 3: social media. So at first I was kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it looks fun and you know, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 4: And then the more I kind of think about it,
Speaker 4: after you sleep on it, it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: probably not the worst idea that that you didn't.
Speaker 3: Get the advice to do. No one needs to see
Speaker 3: with your shirt off anyways.
Speaker 4: So hey, I look, I you know, I'll leave it
Speaker 4: up to them. But yeah, that's that's where we're gonna
Speaker 4: go with that.
Speaker 3: I can definitely say that if I get.
Speaker 4: An INN for twenty seventeen, it'll be the second you know,
Speaker 4: I think it's good.
Speaker 3: Mine I'm receiving in the spring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect segue. So, you know, one would say that
Speaker 1: the next nine months of your life outside of like
Speaker 1: you know, having a kid or it could possibly be
Speaker 1: the best nine months of your life, assuming you get
Speaker 1: onto that Walker Cup team. So what's it like knowing
Speaker 1: with the Masters and potentially the Walker Cup coming up
Speaker 1: like that, this is the best nine months of your
Speaker 1: life had you know, first Masters, first Walker Cup?
Speaker 3: Sure? Well, real quick, I mean in regards to the
Speaker 3: Walker Cup, I mean what God's and Scott and I
Speaker 3: have discussed this before. You know, we put ourselves in
Speaker 3: a position where we're on the radar, but you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of work to be done, and you
Speaker 3: definitely have to earn your way, you know, to even
Speaker 3: be considered. I mean, it's it's an honor to event
Speaker 3: at the practice session, but there's there's a lot of
Speaker 3: things that need to be done there, I mean, from
Speaker 3: a lot of different standpoints. But yeah, the next nine
Speaker 3: months are a're gonna be pretty cool, you know, as
Speaker 3: I've joke to you before, and like he just alluded to,
Speaker 3: you know, instid of having a kid or getting married.
Speaker 3: It's it's a good spot to be in. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, there's also a lot of expectation that
Speaker 3: I've put on myself, and you know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of people that are making the trip down and I
Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to make it seem
Speaker 3: like I'm putting, you know, other pressure on me. But
Speaker 3: I think I've gotten past that stage and now I'm
Speaker 3: just really trying to use his motivation. How efficient can
Speaker 3: I be with the time that I have before that.
Speaker 3: You know, I've got a few events that I'm playing
Speaker 3: kind of leading up to the Masters, to prepare, and
Speaker 3: I really just I want to go with what the
Speaker 3: old adage says. I want to take it one day
Speaker 3: at a time. I want to focus on the little things,
Speaker 3: be very detail oriented, be goal oriented. And and one
Speaker 3: great thing about this thing that happened last week aftert
Speaker 3: LA is you got an opportunity to to really kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, see how good some of the best guys
Speaker 3: in college golf are. And you know it'll be it'll
Speaker 3: be really neat to kind of see how to test
Speaker 3: your game and to really see how you are against
Speaker 3: the best in the world. Into learning experience. Well, I'd
Speaker 3: be upset if I don't play the big down there. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: but you know it's it's something I've dreamed about ever
Speaker 3: since I was a kid. And as I just said,
Speaker 3: you know it'll be it'll be a great opportunity to
Speaker 3: test my game against the world's best. And I think
Speaker 3: if I prepare the right way and I have the
Speaker 3: right attitude going into it, I think I can. You know,
Speaker 3: I have the game and the mentality to hopefully surprise
Speaker 3: a couple of boys to do it for a living.
Speaker 3: But either way, I mean just the week and really
Speaker 3: even after that that I kind of play some of
Speaker 3: the by parameter events throughout the summer. It'll just be
Speaker 3: a really cool special time to focus on something I
Speaker 3: really love to do. And you know, after that's over,
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll get to reflect with friends and family
Speaker 3: over over how that time was from a learning experience
Speaker 3: and also from a golf standpoint. So it'll be it's
Speaker 3: pretty cool, and I'm very very blessed and very lucky
Speaker 3: and really just kind of humbled to be in a
Speaker 3: position that I have, and I'm gonna try and make
Speaker 3: most of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just soak it all in, as uh,
Speaker 1: that's probably the best, you know thing, Just you know,
Speaker 1: enjoy it because you never know, you know, I think
Speaker 1: about the speech that they gave at the mid Am.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you never know when you're going
Speaker 1: to be back, and you know that it's just got
Speaker 1: to enjoy every every aspect of it.
Speaker 3: Cool, yeah, for sure, And a lot of guys have
Speaker 3: kind of echoed the same thing. You know. I talked
Speaker 3: to Maxim about his experience at the the US Open
Speaker 3: or a couple of weeks ago, was with Kim Hogarth
Speaker 3: and he was talking about his time after he won
Speaker 3: the pub links and kind of the chance to go
Speaker 3: down there, and both of them kind of said the
Speaker 3: same thing. They were both you know, kind of said, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously, go and play great and have the
Speaker 3: mentality that you want to go down there and you
Speaker 3: play to win. You know, it doesn't really matter the
Speaker 3: scale of the event, whether it's an event or literally
Speaker 3: a major. But at the same time, also appreciate the
Speaker 3: opportunity while you're there to kind of look around and
Speaker 3: to look at, you know, how gorgeous the flowers are
Speaker 3: on the side of their team, or to see friends
Speaker 3: and family that made the trip to be there and
Speaker 3: to support you. It's it's a really neat deal and
Speaker 3: you know, as I said, I absolutely want to make
Speaker 3: the most of it. But as an old college coach
Speaker 3: who's now at Taylor coach mcgrosst, Big golf Ball has
Speaker 3: no idea who you are, so you know, just just
Speaker 3: go down there and and do the best you can.
Speaker 3: And that's all you can do is focus on what
Speaker 3: we can control.
Speaker 2: That's that's good advice.
Speaker 1: So we'll get more into the Masters and you know
Speaker 1: kind of what you're doing. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: first touch on your win at the US mid Am.
Speaker 1: So sure, for those that didn't see it on TV,
Speaker 1: one of the most you know, thrilling finishes of any
Speaker 1: golf tournament of the year. You were four down with
Speaker 1: five to go, right, or four down with five to go,
Speaker 1: and made, you know, four birdies in the last five
Speaker 1: holes to pull even with Scott Harvey.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: One of the best midm players in the world. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's been the medalist at the mid Am
Speaker 1: four times and I think like the last six years
Speaker 1: or something like that, something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's pretty it's pretty safe to it's
Speaker 3: going to schedule him in there over here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and be a high seed.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, sure, walk us through kind of the week, like,
Speaker 5: did you have a feeling going in, like did your
Speaker 5: game feel really good?
Speaker 1: You know, was it something that you know, you felt
Speaker 1: like you had a really great chance to win when
Speaker 1: you got there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and forgiving me, I have a tendency
Speaker 3: to kind a ramble, and but yeah, I earlier this
Speaker 3: summer I played really great at the Metropolitan Ameterar. I
Speaker 3: played great and stroke play and then after that I
Speaker 3: ended up winning the thing. So it cuts from a
Speaker 3: field of call. It eighty to sixteen and then it's
Speaker 3: kind of match play from then on end. So I
Speaker 3: had some matchplay experience, and you know, there was a
Speaker 3: few times in a few of those matches where I
Speaker 3: was medalist in stroke play, and you know, everyone kind
Speaker 3: of had I had a target on my back, so
Speaker 3: I felt like I really kind of had to bring it,
Speaker 3: you know, for every match. So I was down, you
Speaker 3: know the times kind of going into the back nine,
Speaker 3: and I was able to grind it back and I
Speaker 3: actually went to thirty eight poles in that one in
Speaker 3: the finals. So I was comfortable in match play. But
Speaker 3: that being said, going into the week two months later
Speaker 3: at the mid am, I wasn't hitting it as great
Speaker 3: as I would have liked. In the practice round, I
Speaker 3: literally I played eighteen holes in a practice round on
Speaker 3: the big course where we had you know, that second eighteen,
Speaker 3: and then I actually only played nine for the bat
Speaker 3: nine on the other course and went in together nine
Speaker 3: blind because I was so annoyed with how I was
Speaker 3: hitting it. So I went to the range and I
Speaker 3: worked some stuff out and my caddy was totally fine
Speaker 3: with it. He wasn't feeling his best. He was like, shoot,
Speaker 3: I've done here before. You can I can coach you around.
Speaker 3: We've done this before, so okay, great. But I went
Speaker 3: to the range, I worked some stuff out and Sammy
Speaker 3: Schmidt's I was sitting ball next to Sam earlier in
Speaker 3: the week and he won the Midham last year, and
Speaker 3: one of the things he kind of said to me was,
Speaker 3: as the week goes on in match play, you don't
Speaker 3: really get tired because you're you're adrenaline just keeps hitting
Speaker 3: me through. And that was one of the things that
Speaker 3: kind of stuck with me the whole week. So I
Speaker 3: knew that if I could start getting it a little
Speaker 3: bit better and kind of get into a rhythm and
Speaker 3: get into a you know, a feel where I was
Speaker 3: kind of comfortable with my game, you know, maybe we
Speaker 3: could uh we could we could make we could reach
Speaker 3: some havoc and match play. And then the other side
Speaker 3: of it too, is because I am twenty five and
Speaker 3: technically a midium. I turned twenty five earlier this year.
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time in the offseason last
Speaker 3: winter in New York kind of trying to put on
Speaker 3: some weight and working out again. Bit so I felt
Speaker 3: like in terms of physical fitness, I was in pretty
Speaker 3: good shape and kind of like I said, you know,
Speaker 3: I really, you know, enjoyed playing the second leg of
Speaker 3: those thirty six whole days out there. Those for me
Speaker 3: were fun, and you know, that's one of the things
Speaker 3: I'm going to look forward to do in the next
Speaker 3: few months. But I really think, you know, that extra
Speaker 3: work in the gym was was huge as it kind
Speaker 3: of came down throughout that week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a big advantage being younger in the
Speaker 1: you know, especially when you know some of those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the guys are you know, forty
Speaker 1: forty two playing And it was so hot that week.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was so hot that week.
Speaker 1: I had the last tea time the first round of
Speaker 1: the tournament, and I remember it.
Speaker 3: Was just.
Speaker 1: It was one of the hottest, you know, te off
Speaker 1: times I've ever had. It was nuts, but it was Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had to be tough playing that North course blind
Speaker 1: with those greens. What do you think overall about the
Speaker 1: golf course?
Speaker 3: I played the I played the back nun so I
Speaker 3: didn't see the front, so one one was tricky. I
Speaker 3: think I brokeied one and I also played it in
Speaker 3: the second day in the stroke play when it was
Speaker 3: really mid afternoon. Yeah, so I don't know. I look,
Speaker 3: I played. I played better that day. I joked with
Speaker 3: my caddie as I mentioned it, I usually had faded
Speaker 3: and I was sitting draws the whole week. On my
Speaker 3: seventeenth hole of the second day on the North Course,
Speaker 3: I get it cut into this two part three on seventeen,
Speaker 3: like the ball kind of went up into the falling
Speaker 3: left until right. I turned around in JD my cat,
Speaker 3: you know, I was like, yes, this is it. It went,
Speaker 3: It went went left to right. So I vividly remember
Speaker 3: that shot. I feel like that was kind of the
Speaker 3: turning point in my week of kind of going from
Speaker 3: not hitting it so great. It's like kind of getting
Speaker 3: back to where I was comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's funny how just one shot can do it.
Speaker 1: It's uh, golf is such a goofy game.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy. So there's there's always, you know,
Speaker 3: value to be taken from everything, So no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I know, we got a bunch
Speaker 1: of Twitter questions and I kind of broke them up. So,
Speaker 1: you know, in regards to the Midham uh deplorable Mick
Speaker 1: five cent, who his family member.
Speaker 2: Faced you in the sound.
Speaker 1: He wants to he wants to know you know what
Speaker 1: you were thinking in that match. So you were three
Speaker 1: down after six to Mike McDermott, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: kind of what changed?
Speaker 2: What happened? What you know? How does that momentum flip?
Speaker 3: Sure? So Mike's for those that don't know Mike, he's
Speaker 3: a heck of a player. I think he had the
Speaker 3: course record at the competitive course record at that's done well.
Speaker 3: Again according to Mike Caddy, you spend a lot of
Speaker 3: time in that area. But I mean I knew he's
Speaker 3: a tall guy. He hits it great. I think he
Speaker 3: played basketball in college and then and then an excuse
Speaker 3: me season play that from in high school and then
Speaker 3: he picked up golf and he was like a junior
Speaker 3: or senior and uh ended up going to get a
Speaker 3: small school to play for them. But no, Mike's Mike's
Speaker 3: really really good. And I knew that match was going
Speaker 3: to be top. He knew the course, he was comfortable
Speaker 3: out there. He burdied the first two and then I
Speaker 3: made a silly treeplay on the third. I think I
Speaker 3: probably got a little aggressive, but kind of like I mentioned, earlier.
Speaker 3: I just mass play is so momentum driven, and I
Speaker 3: knew that if I could grind it back and you know,
Speaker 3: he pick a couple of good ones. You know, maybe
Speaker 3: he made a bad swing and I was able to
Speaker 3: take advantage of it, or maybe I could get a
Speaker 3: couple of shots at twelve, fifteen, eighteen feet and make
Speaker 3: a plot or two. I just try I took it
Speaker 3: one shot at a time. I tried to focus on
Speaker 3: what I can control. But that was tough, no doubt,
Speaker 3: because he's he was comfortable as anyone out there, and
Speaker 3: that was I think in the quarters, so I was
Speaker 3: I was definitely I was kind of going up against
Speaker 3: the hometown here. There are probably forty or fifty guys
Speaker 3: out there supporting him. So Mike's a great guy and
Speaker 3: it was a ton of fun to go up against him.
Speaker 3: And even though I got the best, H'm'm sure, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll go up against each other, you know,
Speaker 3: at some point in the future. But you know, he's
Speaker 3: a stud. So that was I'm lucky enough to walk
Speaker 3: away with the death you here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard from a buddy who used to play
Speaker 1: in the Philly section that he's just unbelievable player. I
Speaker 1: think he won their Philly Am this year, which.
Speaker 3: Is he did. That's exactly right, he did.
Speaker 2: So what were some of your favorite holes out there?
Speaker 1: It's a for those of you guys that don't know Stonewall,
Speaker 1: it's a thirty six hole Tom Doak facility. Really cool place,
Speaker 1: cool vibe, very cool club and uh, you know, great
Speaker 1: piece of property.
Speaker 3: Well I thought the flap five would pretty solid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, those things are hard. I mean what you
Speaker 1: did in that last match was incredible.
Speaker 3: No, so let's run through it. Four was a great hole,
Speaker 3: you know where you can get three litter hybrid, and
Speaker 3: then it was a really tough, narrow green like six
Speaker 3: kind of set up. All to my I were there
Speaker 3: was a kind of a creek kind of running down
Speaker 3: the right side. In the middle of it, it was
Speaker 3: a greatful water left junk right, and then just a
Speaker 3: tough screen playing back into the wind. You obviously I'm
Speaker 3: a huge fan at number nine. As we kind of
Speaker 3: go towards the back nine, I thought fifteen, even though
Speaker 3: it's only one hundred and call it seventy five yards, it's.
Speaker 2: Just so hard possibly awkward.
Speaker 3: Part three, it was.
Speaker 1: So hard I don't know, you know, I, how do
Speaker 1: you even like?
Speaker 2: That? Is so hard to hit that green?
Speaker 3: So I went back and I've only watched the telecast once,
Speaker 3: and to be totally honest, it was basically to make
Speaker 3: sure I didn't embarrass myself on national TV, to make
Speaker 3: sure like I didn't do anything stupid. But I don't
Speaker 3: know if you can hear it in the telecast, but
Speaker 3: I remember the conversation with my caddie and we were
Speaker 3: kind of going back and forth between nine or eight
Speaker 3: iron and seven iron, you know, because you basically had
Speaker 3: to land it at the front of the green and literally,
Speaker 3: so call it. You had to land it at like
Speaker 3: sixty four, which is like four yards more than I
Speaker 3: hit eighty and seven goes one seventy five. So Jade
Speaker 3: and I are going back and forth and we're like, well,
Speaker 3: we can't miss left, and you can't miss long, and
Speaker 3: you can't miss short, and you can't miss so there's
Speaker 3: nowhere to miss. Yeah, it's it's just it's such a
Speaker 3: tough part three, but it's also so fare Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know, if you hit a good shot there, it
Speaker 3: was great.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: The other tricky thing about that hole was that it
Speaker 1: was really hard to feel the wind because of it
Speaker 1: was it's.
Speaker 3: Back in that little in that little corner.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, it's I mean I remember distinctly like having
Speaker 1: no clue what was going.
Speaker 2: On with the wind when I was playing that hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's just it's so awkward, but
Speaker 3: in such a fair way.
Speaker 1: It's I think that fourth hole that you brought up,
Speaker 1: it's got to be one of the hardest par.
Speaker 2: Fours under four hundred yards I've ever played.
Speaker 3: I mean, the t is hard enough, and then that's
Speaker 3: not even a hard part of the whole year long.
Speaker 3: You're looking at five at best or six. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you're looking at it impossibly awkward pot if you missed right,
Speaker 3: it's just it's just it's just top. Just there's no
Speaker 3: way about it. It's just top.
Speaker 1: I think that golf course in general is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: People always are like it's got to be seven thousand yards,
Speaker 1: Like that course at sixty eight hundred yards was like
Speaker 1: everything you can you know, handle, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I didn't even mention, you know,
Speaker 3: seventeen and eighteen. I think eighteen was probably my favorite
Speaker 3: hole on our golf course. But it was just it
Speaker 3: was a great mix of kind of mixing with the
Speaker 3: t's and you know, hitting drivers in three wood and
Speaker 3: then you know there are a couple of three yrons there.
Speaker 3: It's not like it forced you to hit free wood
Speaker 3: or driver anywhere. I saw twenty of guys on number
Speaker 3: three the part five you know hit hybrid just because
Speaker 3: of how Walkward had gone, you know, but it's also
Speaker 3: a few bus driver and bus three that you can
Speaker 3: get up there. But no, it was It's it's a
Speaker 3: really neat spot and I really enjoyed being out there.
Speaker 3: I thought it was. I enjoyed the was it the
Speaker 3: new but it's the only played the match play mm
Speaker 3: hmm a little more. I could just hit my eye
Speaker 3: a little bit better, but just really just a unique
Speaker 3: you know from the clips.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so with that match with Scott, you know, a
Speaker 1: quick question, have you ever seen him hit a wedge
Speaker 1: not inside of ten feet?
Speaker 3: He's the best. He's the best cameur player under pressure
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. He doesn't he just when the chips
Speaker 3: are down. And we and we've gone off each other
Speaker 3: a few times this summer. We played each other and
Speaker 3: he played the funnel round at the Thomas together and
Speaker 3: then we went to an aggregate playoff and I end
Speaker 3: up losing on this first sudden dep playoff. We went
Speaker 3: to a twenty three for eight playoff at the us
Speaker 3: Ameter this year and not even one shots just around
Speaker 3: the green bunker, shots chips. You know. I he's just
Speaker 3: he's so good under pressure with the with the lowbleedge
Speaker 3: of his hand, and I was going to, you know,
Speaker 3: get him. I'll sacrifice three or four years of my
Speaker 3: youth to you to have your wedge game inside eighty
Speaker 3: five yards. It's it's it's it's as good as Simps
Speaker 3: were players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seems like every time he's got a
Speaker 1: wedge in his hand, it's like four or five feet away.
Speaker 1: So with the with with the final kind of five,
Speaker 1: like you know, what was going through your head? You
Speaker 1: know you're hanging in there, and you know he's just
Speaker 1: such a tough competitor. Did you know it just seemed
Speaker 1: like you just started to hit shots a lot really close. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like I was sitting it pretty good
Speaker 3: all day. It's me anything to the fall. And what
Speaker 3: I kept telling myself really throughout the day was, you know,
Speaker 3: not to play again. It's just so and I'm driven,
Speaker 3: and if I can turn that four down lead for
Speaker 3: four down deficit, I guess and do a two down deficit.
Speaker 3: Being two downs still brutal, but it's the hecking a
Speaker 3: lot better than being four down, and that momentum it
Speaker 3: scares you a little bit. And you know, we've all
Speaker 3: played match play, we all know what it's like. And again,
Speaker 3: the difference between one down and three down is a lot.
Speaker 3: I just, you know, I figured if I could give
Speaker 3: myself a chance, I had a feeling all day that
Speaker 3: the match was going to go the distance, even though
Speaker 3: it didn't particularly look like it. Both my parents gave
Speaker 3: up on me, not once, but twice. They give up
Speaker 3: to me. They gave up on me, you know, after
Speaker 3: twenty seven, and then when I missed that plot on thirteen,
Speaker 3: they were like, yeah, he's done. So it was, as
Speaker 3: I said, I just I really wanted to leave everything
Speaker 3: I had out there, so I had a feeling it
Speaker 3: might go the distance. But again, if I could just
Speaker 3: scare them, I thought I had a change. So kind
Speaker 3: of after I breaded fourteen and fifteen, I made a
Speaker 3: couple of goods the whole they started getting a little
Speaker 3: bit bigger and I guess you could just say I
Speaker 3: kind of got hot at the right moment, and the
Speaker 3: chips were down and the pressure kind of came up.
Speaker 3: As people talk about at the zone. I don't know.
Speaker 3: The reality is, I really don't remember a whole lot
Speaker 3: of the last forty five minutes. I wish I could
Speaker 3: give you more yea for putting a shot on seventeen.
Speaker 3: I just what I mean, I really don't remember a
Speaker 3: whole lot of it. I remember everything being very simple.
Speaker 3: I remember JD would get me a yardage and I'd
Speaker 3: be like, okay, you know, how do you like that
Speaker 3: tree in the distance, and get it looks good? Okay,
Speaker 3: Like everything became very very easy. I guess you could
Speaker 3: say I don't know, but it was. It was a
Speaker 3: crazy afternoon. And the only other thing I'll say about
Speaker 3: that is it's it's probably the most memorable phone call
Speaker 3: I've ever made in my mom and dad afterwards, it
Speaker 3: was it was pretty cool. So I wish I could
Speaker 3: give you more, but I swear to you, I just
Speaker 3: don't really remember a whole lot of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I can imagine.
Speaker 1: I mean, it probably just feels like everything bunds together,
Speaker 1: and I mean so much, so much pressure and so
Speaker 1: much you know, adrenaline that it probably you know it,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 3: So I just I remember, like one of the few
Speaker 3: things that I that I do remember is I just
Speaker 3: really tried to work on my breathing. It's just you know,
Speaker 3: just try didn't slow down everything I did. But I
Speaker 3: don't know, it was it was crazy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you win on the thirty seventh hole
Speaker 1: with a birdie, and you know, winning the US Midam
Speaker 1: gets you a bunch of exemptions into you know, USGA
Speaker 1: events for years to come, but obviously the big one
Speaker 1: of them all is you know, the invitation to the Masters.
Speaker 2: So like, how long did it take for to you know,
Speaker 2: set in where you you know, before you know where, Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm playing in the Masters.
Speaker 3: After after I made the putt and Hug Scott and
Speaker 3: my caddie and I had a bunch of friends kind
Speaker 3: of come down, there's a point where I kind of
Speaker 3: snapped out of it and I looked up the hill
Speaker 3: where a lot of the crowd were right before, you know,
Speaker 3: the little Chilphy presentation on it on the ninth green,
Speaker 3: and it kind of hit me that it was like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, like what just happened? What it was? It
Speaker 3: was like I had woken up, and it definitely, it
Speaker 3: definitely took some time to kind of later, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of figured out. But you know, I had a
Speaker 3: bunch of buddies that were kind of text me like, hey,
Speaker 3: what are you doing tonight? You're going out up on
Speaker 3: I told all of them, you know, the only thing
Speaker 3: I want to do. And I told him the next
Speaker 3: day because that night was just you know, talking to
Speaker 3: my family members. But I was just like, you know,
Speaker 3: all I want to do is stay on a couch
Speaker 3: and you know, just revel in what this feels like.
Speaker 3: And it was I still think myself, it's it's us
Speaker 3: the dream come true. It's something that you know, you
Speaker 3: think about as a kid, and it's it's pretty special.
Speaker 2: So have you gotten the invitation yet for Augusta and
Speaker 2: the Masters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't perceived, and I have been told that
Speaker 3: it comes around Christmas. But basically I talked to a
Speaker 3: few you know, out of the numbers and UH and
Speaker 3: and committee guys down Canada Agusta and basically what they
Speaker 3: sent me a couple of weeks after the mid Aam
Speaker 3: was an invitation to receive the invitation. Just in terms
Speaker 3: of dates and stuff, we got four. But I've spoken
Speaker 3: to a few of those guys and you know, I
Speaker 3: you know, I'm as I said, I'm I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to April. So we're in the clear. And I didn't
Speaker 3: put my foot in my mouth too much so.
Speaker 1: That so Silverstein told me that you've got to play
Speaker 1: Augusta when you were at USC So, uh, you know
Speaker 1: you've seen the course before, is that the only time
Speaker 1: you've played it?
Speaker 2: And what do you what do you think about the
Speaker 2: golf course and how it fits your game?
Speaker 3: So you'll like this. I don't think I've told you
Speaker 3: this before, but the first time I actually played Augusta,
Speaker 3: my senior year, art director Pat Hayden took us down there.
Speaker 3: And the first time I actually played Augusta was with
Speaker 3: another senior on the team, our assistant coach at the time,
Speaker 3: and a guy who gets to play Augusta every year
Speaker 3: as a marker, Jump Knox. That was pretty cool and
Speaker 3: it's it's it's by far the most narous I've ever
Speaker 3: been over first tea shot, the guys from the clubhouse
Speaker 3: kind of came out and they watched us and it's
Speaker 3: just it's it's I think the lock or what I
Speaker 3: remember is the walk from to up at your t shop,
Speaker 3: the kind of door around the corner, and the golf
Speaker 3: course kind of opens up to me. That's what I
Speaker 3: imagine for an avid golfer and someone who plays competitive,
Speaker 3: that's what I imagine. Haven't looking like, Yeah, it's I
Speaker 3: don't know what I kind of can can't say, but
Speaker 3: it's I again, like I said, I pinched myself every
Speaker 3: every time I think about the opportunity to go down there.
Speaker 3: And as far as the way that I liked it vades,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's going to come out or people
Speaker 3: have made big deal out of how the golf course
Speaker 3: allegedly favors guy who moved the goall from right to left.
Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with it in practicality, and you
Speaker 3: know the way that the golf course kind of sets up.
Speaker 3: But last my check, there's a guy who won there
Speaker 3: six times that pretty exclusively hit all right. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I look, I I've got a little bit of speed.
Speaker 3: I'd like to put on a few more pounds and
Speaker 3: a few more yards because I think it'll turn some
Speaker 3: spots where having eight irons that a seven iron in
Speaker 3: your hand, you know, it lands a little softer, allow
Speaker 3: you to go after a couple more pains. But when
Speaker 3: I played the golf course, I understand it's it's probably
Speaker 3: very different than the golf course to All Sea in April.
Speaker 3: But you know, if their ways are good ties, and
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a pretty decent iron player, so
Speaker 3: I'm not going to change a whole lot. And it
Speaker 3: kind of goes forward. If I have to lay up
Speaker 3: on their team, well, then I have to lay up
Speaker 3: on their team, or you know I can't get to
Speaker 3: do well, then I'll just play up to a good
Speaker 3: web yardage. You give yourself eighteen fifteen putters a prty.
Speaker 3: You know, it's theory you should play all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's a it's an interesting
Speaker 1: golf course. I think it's such a great tournament golf
Speaker 1: course because you know, it's tremendously fair in the sense
Speaker 1: of it's got a lot of width off the tee
Speaker 1: and you know, you can play any shot off the
Speaker 1: tee and the thing it does that, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it does better than almost any other tournament golf courses.
Speaker 1: The shot is out in front of you, and it says,
Speaker 1: you know, hit this shot and if you pull it off,
Speaker 1: you receive the greatest reward. You can make eagles, you know,
Speaker 1: you can just really score, but if you don't really
Speaker 1: it just kills you. If you if you try and
Speaker 1: pull that shot off and you you miss it, you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna make a double.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, there's definitely a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: focus and commitment, you know, that's required on a lot
Speaker 3: of those shots. And I'm sure, like you know, anyone
Speaker 3: listening to this on my birthday's April ten, so it's
Speaker 3: always right around the gotta and what I want to
Speaker 3: do during that week is nothing to sit on the
Speaker 3: couch and watch, you know, both friends try and compete.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to kind of see, you know, after
Speaker 3: all those times. But then I'm sure quarterback so to speak,
Speaker 3: you know, how how we can can it go and
Speaker 3: deliver and focus over some of those shots. And I'm
Speaker 3: sure that you know, it's easy for me to sit
Speaker 3: here now and say it, but you know, I'm sure
Speaker 3: that when I played twelve in the event, it'll be
Speaker 3: it'll be a little different than be sitting there and saying, oh,
Speaker 3: it's just a smooth aida I a little green. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll be a couple buddies and they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's not exactly how it goes to Peo would know.
Speaker 1: I I you right, Yeah, I bet it's a lot
Speaker 1: like what we were talking about with fifteen at Stonewall,
Speaker 1: where it's just very very very hard.
Speaker 3: I mean you sit there and you're like, oh, it's
Speaker 3: just an inn and of the front of the green,
Speaker 3: it's like, well, you know, throw eastern side crowd boond
Speaker 3: you that's that's judging every movie you make and then
Speaker 3: can talk. So I'm sure the ones is swirling in
Speaker 3: six different trips. I don't know. I'm just I guess
Speaker 3: that's small targets, focused ones you can control. Trying to
Speaker 3: give yourself a bunch of fifteen eighteen flitters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a bunch of Twitter questions around the masters,
Speaker 1: so it would just kind of go through some of
Speaker 1: these quick Here Andy Roderick wants to know, what does
Speaker 1: your master's prep look like. I know you've hit on
Speaker 1: kind of putting on some pounds and getting some.
Speaker 2: More speed in the swing. What else are you planning
Speaker 2: to really work on?
Speaker 3: Well, no, secret that bag cutting is at an absolute
Speaker 3: premium out there, So a lot of speed work and
Speaker 3: not just you know, like your ten fifteen twenty footers.
Speaker 3: It's I I fend a plot a little bit from
Speaker 3: around the greens. You know, I'm like just off. So
Speaker 3: it'll be a lot of longer one you know, forty
Speaker 3: forty five fifty putters that I'd really like to Can
Speaker 3: they get some good working, you know, judging lives around
Speaker 3: the green and stuff like that. There's going to be
Speaker 3: times where I have to you know, probably pitch out
Speaker 3: or play safe or you know, not hit my best shot,
Speaker 3: or maybe on a part our plot. You know, right up,
Speaker 3: So I really want to get my web game shark,
Speaker 3: you know, controlling it'spend controlling the trajectory, fitting specific yardages,
Speaker 3: knowing the difference between what eighty three eighty five yards
Speaker 3: fields like. I know that's not rapidly specific, but the
Speaker 3: level that these guys are. You know, one of the
Speaker 3: reasons that Dustin Johnson's had such a great year is
Speaker 3: because he would go out. He would tell himself to
Speaker 3: register in the artages and he would look on trappings
Speaker 3: as exactly as it gets, and you know, he was
Speaker 3: kind of figure out what those things felt like. And
Speaker 3: those are the kind of things that ties both on
Speaker 3: tour and the theameter in college level kind of becomes
Speaker 3: so elite at and if I can kind of lock
Speaker 3: in on some of those numbers and play to my strength,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to try and figure out how to
Speaker 3: hit a control drawn thirteen because there's just no point.
Speaker 3: You know, does it does it help? Could it give
Speaker 3: me an extra ten or fifteen yards?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, but how many times can you hit that shot
Speaker 3: under pressure versus gitting a five or four iron and
Speaker 3: versus like a six or seven iron. It's just the
Speaker 3: risk of war doesn't make a ton of sense. So
Speaker 3: I'm going to try and really focus on the strength
Speaker 3: that I already have, improving the things that need improvements
Speaker 3: that are really just works, such as wedges and speed,
Speaker 3: and then beyond that, one of the things that I
Speaker 3: haven't really touched on is pretty couples. Listen to the
Speaker 3: California you know, when Phil gets healthy, listens to the
Speaker 3: California Bollhoffler, who was up a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: box home up. You know, can't wagh. There's guys who
Speaker 3: are in the area that I can surround myself with
Speaker 3: them beginnings, are comfortable with them and have the opportunity
Speaker 3: to kind of pick their brain of what's important. Those
Speaker 3: types of things are absolutely invaluable, and I'm convinced that
Speaker 3: being comfortable around those guys is going to play a
Speaker 3: huge part in allowing yourself to move beyond what the
Speaker 3: situation is and to focus on what you can control
Speaker 3: and really give you the opportunity to really walk in
Speaker 3: on yourself and to play the best golf that you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point.
Speaker 1: I think a comfort level and golf is so important
Speaker 1: because it, you know, it has such an impact on
Speaker 1: you know, how you're thinking, how you're feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: how you're swinging and that. I think that's a great
Speaker 1: you know called just you know, surrounding yourself playing a
Speaker 1: lot of rounds with with the world class players, so
Speaker 1: they you you know, you feel like you belong and
Speaker 1: you're not. There's no wow, you know shock factor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I mean, I'm not going to sit here
Speaker 3: and pretend but you know, I'm I'm as good as
Speaker 3: still because it's just not true. He's got a trophy
Speaker 3: case to prove it, and a couple of sports coats
Speaker 3: to prove it so that, But am I capable of
Speaker 3: going out and competing with those guys for four days?
Speaker 3: If I'm sharp? I mean I feel like I can.
Speaker 3: You know, everyone's everyone has stretches where they where they
Speaker 3: play great. And like I said, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: sit here and pretend I'm as good as tour players
Speaker 3: because I'm not like stats. It's true. You can look
Speaker 3: at my world ranking and it's just not true. But
Speaker 3: you know, as I mentioned before, the golf well doesn't
Speaker 3: know who you are. And if you give yourself the
Speaker 3: opportunity to put yourself out there and to play great
Speaker 3: and to prepare the way that you feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, on Thursday on the range and you're
Speaker 3: hitting balls next to it, you know Jason Day or
Speaker 3: a Rory or Big or Tiger, you know, someone that
Speaker 3: everyone in my generation has looked up to at the
Speaker 3: time they first started playing. You know, if you feel
Speaker 3: comfortable in a situation and you can focus on your routine,
Speaker 3: that's what I really think will give you the best
Speaker 3: opportunity to play great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, so Ed Lure Tracker, the you know,
Speaker 1: wants to know if you're going to be doing a
Speaker 1: gofund me campaign.
Speaker 2: Nope, I think that one backfired. I'm Sammy, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I h no, I won't be doing that. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: love I'll altern my dad into the beuts on this one.
Speaker 3: I love my dad, and my dad's going to be
Speaker 3: on the bag for me for the three contests. This
Speaker 3: is the only time in twenty five years that I've
Speaker 3: ever held a Trump card over again.
Speaker 2: I short answer is no, No, So your dad's doing
Speaker 2: the Part three?
Speaker 3: Who you know?
Speaker 1: Powell Arms is wondering what time he shows up to Caddy,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, if if you're not going
Speaker 1: with Powell, who will be on the bag?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use Mike Caddy John Doherty, who have used
Speaker 3: a good bit in the in the metropolitan area over
Speaker 3: the course of the last couple of years. He's got
Speaker 3: even fifteen nine USGA events, And you know, it's obviously
Speaker 3: a dream of mine to be able to go down
Speaker 3: there and to play. But you know, as a longtime guy,
Speaker 3: he's he's a pretty seasoned you know, Caddie. You know
Speaker 3: it's also the dream of his and I think it'll
Speaker 3: be really neat to kind of share the experience with him,
Speaker 3: to go down there and see if we can, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of do the less we can. And there's there's
Speaker 3: no one else I even considered.
Speaker 2: M h Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think having someamiliarity with your game and everything is
Speaker 1: huge too. So you know, how how many you know,
Speaker 1: you get to play down there as much, you know,
Speaker 1: as as you can. How many trips do you plan
Speaker 1: on making or hoping to make in the next few months.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna you know, I've got two on the
Speaker 3: books right now, maybe a good family friend who's who's
Speaker 3: down there, so it'll be one. But you know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna try and get down there as much as I
Speaker 3: can without without stuff on on anyone's toes. I get
Speaker 3: a very sacred place, and I absolutely respect and and
Speaker 3: respect your rules. So you know, the last thing I
Speaker 3: would ever want to do is overstand my welcome, which
Speaker 3: I don't plan on doing. But I'm gonna try and
Speaker 3: get down there a little bit. And you know, like
Speaker 3: I said, you know, we've all we've all fat on
Speaker 3: the couch and watched all, you know, twenty two hours
Speaker 3: of pre you know, turned in Postmasters coverage. So going
Speaker 3: down there essentially being in a museum of something that
Speaker 3: we've all idolized for so long. You know, I'd like
Speaker 3: to kind of get over the the hump of you know,
Speaker 3: this is where field at that shot on thirteen, That's
Speaker 3: where Tiger chips on sixteen, and that's where probably hit
Speaker 3: the you know, one shot on ten. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'd like to go down there and focus on the
Speaker 3: golf course and as I said, you know, focus on
Speaker 3: where I want to hit it, on my game and
Speaker 3: what it takes to play great. But I'm sure I'll
Speaker 3: get down there a little bit, you know, here in
Speaker 3: the spring and the kind of gets closer to peopm.
Speaker 1: So last week you were in you were at the
Speaker 1: Walker Cup practices and I would love to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about that. So the Walker Cup is in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and that's at the course you grew up
Speaker 1: playing La Country Club. So you know, where does kind
Speaker 1: of the Walker Cup rank on like bucket list things
Speaker 1: to do? Say if you get the nod uh and
Speaker 1: get one of the spots on the ten person team.
Speaker 3: Sure, well, you know, as I mentioned earlier, you got
Speaker 3: to earn your way on. So to even be considered
Speaker 3: and to be in the discussion is it is a
Speaker 3: very very high honor and dream in and of itself.
Speaker 3: But I would rank it. I mean, is it possible
Speaker 3: to have two one a's in terms of well, I
Speaker 3: mean and be Augustine and you know, and having the
Speaker 3: opportunity to represent your country for the Walker Cup. So
Speaker 3: I I've had two goals for the last year, and
Speaker 3: I'll continue up two goals for the next nine months.
Speaker 3: And we've just we've just talked about them. It's to go.
Speaker 3: I'll do Augustin to play great and to do the
Speaker 3: best I can and to do everything I can, you know,
Speaker 3: on and off the course to try and have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to remotely on that team to represent you know,
Speaker 3: to dates and to represent you know, the U. S g. A,
Speaker 3: and to to try and bring back the Walker back
Speaker 3: to what it belongs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got kind of drubbed the last uh we
Speaker 1: could have got drubbed the last time out. So hopefully
Speaker 1: we can bring the cup back here with with an
Speaker 1: up up close uh in person. You know, look at
Speaker 1: all these college kids. I mean, it seems like every
Speaker 1: year they're just getting better and better. What were some
Speaker 1: guys who were some guys that just you know, really
Speaker 1: impressed you that we're invited to the practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you just hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 3: They're all so incredibly talented, and it's it's very humbling
Speaker 3: and very eye opening to see their games but close
Speaker 3: and the fact that they constantly reminded me that this
Speaker 3: is offseason is even more scary. They're just they're all
Speaker 3: super talented. I mean I could I could go and
Speaker 3: talk to all of them or talk about each and
Speaker 3: every one of them, but I mean Mad and John
Speaker 3: john Hood are so efficient around the greens, like how
Speaker 3: well Sean and Jimmy staying and Gavin I'll drive it.
Speaker 3: I mean, IOK, IOK, just elite. You know legge players
Speaker 3: Doug Gammon and Joan Layer, are Xalatorius and Dalkey, how
Speaker 3: well they get it. How the way that you know,
Speaker 3: like Colin and Hardy can have the feel of the
Speaker 3: tour player, and the way they compose and conduct themselves.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can just go go on and on,
Speaker 3: you know that all these guys and I won't, I
Speaker 3: won't touch on all of them, but I have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to play with all of them, and it's just
Speaker 3: so impressive and more than any of that, they're just
Speaker 3: great kids. I mean, they're there's so much fun to
Speaker 3: be around. They're great guys. That's it's a great group.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of a lot of personalities from
Speaker 3: around the country and you know these guys from Texas
Speaker 3: and Chicago and you know Florida Northern. It's just it's
Speaker 3: a really special, cool group. And the way that that
Speaker 3: Mad and Scott you know, and talk about the event
Speaker 3: and the level of respect that importance the past walker
Speaker 3: covers kind of coming out to support. It's just it's
Speaker 3: a really special thing and you can feel and really
Speaker 3: get a sense of just how amazing, you know, the
Speaker 3: opportunity to try and earn your way onto that team
Speaker 3: really is. So you know, hopefully I did okay out there,
Speaker 3: and obviously it's it's you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: time between now and when the selection is made. But
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, you know, I uh, I'm gonna do
Speaker 3: everything in my power that I can to have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to represent the club and the other players in
Speaker 3: the U s g A and you know, can ultimately
Speaker 3: be at Yeah, it makes me, it makes me come
Speaker 3: a step back. It's it's a it's a special thing.
Speaker 3: And night I have nothing but respect for anyone that's
Speaker 3: ever represented the US on one of those teams.
Speaker 1: So we we got a request from one of your
Speaker 1: fellow Walker Cup hopefuls, Dylan Meyer, wants us to have
Speaker 1: you do You're two hours later and rock Bottom impersonations
Speaker 1: from SpongeBob.
Speaker 3: Two alas, we welcome Dylan. Dylan and I figured out
Speaker 3: within about a matter of fifteen minutes that we have
Speaker 3: the exact same sense of humor, and we played alternate
Speaker 3: shot together and since I think the entire dis I
Speaker 3: just making fun of each other, you know, we would
Speaker 3: just sit there and be know she now is at.
Speaker 2: It's uh, he seems like a great kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that and that, and then then Hardy's you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of the boys. Over being in
Speaker 3: New York for two a half years, you know, your
Speaker 3: your sarcasm changes a little bit and you understand just
Speaker 3: how big of a deal you know, Pat football is
Speaker 3: in hockey and all that, and Hardy and I, you know,
Speaker 3: a big book, big end of the blog Barstool Sports,
Speaker 3: and they came out with a funny little video you
Speaker 3: know of Canadian tourism or whatever. We played each other
Speaker 3: and I mean, we're high fiving and slapping each other
Speaker 3: on the backs and all good shot the brdle get
Speaker 3: yourself the bull today.
Speaker 2: That that video is great.
Speaker 3: Well look what you got on underneath your jacket more jeans?
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, you might have a future. And uh like
Speaker 1: that Frank Callendo guy and some with some impersonation.
Speaker 3: I will never touch Frank. I could watch those videos
Speaker 3: time and time again. That guy is such a talent.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. No, we just got it's everyone. I put
Speaker 3: it inside jokes and that's anyways we got to kick
Speaker 3: out of it. Was it was cool.
Speaker 1: I'll put a video of the the Gordo video in
Speaker 1: there for everybody in the in the podcast link, so
Speaker 1: anybody that hasn't seen it can see it. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny and pretty ship. Yeah, sportsmanship is the
Speaker 1: key theme. So so if you were gonna bet the
Speaker 1: house on one of the guys from the practices winning
Speaker 1: a major, who would it be?
Speaker 2: You know, you you only get to pick one guy,
Speaker 2: and you know, to win a major, who is it?
Speaker 2: M M, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna give you such a non answer with
Speaker 3: this one. I mean, I mean, obviously MAVs, you know,
Speaker 3: number one world ranking is is obviously pretty strong. But
Speaker 3: I just like I look back to playing with each
Speaker 3: one of those guys, and all of them just brings
Speaker 3: something different to it. And like I said, if that's
Speaker 3: them an off season when they're quote unquote not sharp,
Speaker 3: oh boy, we're in a world of hurt. You know,
Speaker 3: as we look forward to the summer. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess just based off his ranking, I
Speaker 3: honestly can't even answer that because I still follow them
Speaker 3: in college and I mean, any given a week, one
Speaker 3: of those guys, they're all so good. You know, we've
Speaker 3: we've kind of talked about it before, and it's follow
Speaker 3: some of the stuff that you and the guys over
Speaker 3: no laying up to, and I mean, it's it's amazing
Speaker 3: how guys can break onto the scene and get confidence
Speaker 3: in themselves and start playing great. So I mean, I
Speaker 3: can tell you if not scatter I because we're fromit
Speaker 3: ams and we're pretty comfortable where we're at, but that
Speaker 3: all those guys are so talented and it'll be super
Speaker 3: fun just to kind of watch the progression as they
Speaker 3: get older.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk a little bit about golf
Speaker 1: courses and want to be mindful of your time here.
Speaker 1: So you know, obviously l a CC has got a
Speaker 1: new course. Not a lot of people have seen it.
Speaker 1: I think it's only open to member play. Now, tell
Speaker 1: audience a little bit about that South course.
Speaker 2: How do you like it?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's awesome. I've only played it a couple of times,
Speaker 3: but a piece of land it's on between Woolsure and
Speaker 3: Santa Monica Boulevard is it's pretty spectacular, don't ants kind
Speaker 3: live in and changed around a few things and you know,
Speaker 3: made some different adjustments to certain holes in the layout.
Speaker 3: He took out a ton of trees and it has
Speaker 3: a really similar feel to the North course, but it's
Speaker 3: much more adjusted towards member play. It's just really fun
Speaker 3: and it's got some great vistas, you know, that kind
Speaker 3: of wools Santa Monica corridor. The dreams aren't nearly as
Speaker 3: severe as the North. That doesn't have near the length
Speaker 3: of the North. But you know, if I had a chance,
Speaker 3: you know, to play all the courses in LA and
Speaker 3: I could sneak out there. Anyone I've ever taken out
Speaker 3: to go check it out. I mean it took Scott
Speaker 3: out there, you know, from before the practice session started.
Speaker 3: He loved it, and he kind of said that, He's like,
Speaker 3: why you ad you ever leave? This is is amazing.
Speaker 3: So I've got nothing but the great reviews on the
Speaker 3: South and I think it's a really sneaky, really solid course.
Speaker 1: So having now lived in uh, New York and you
Speaker 1: know you also have lived in l A, those are
Speaker 1: two of the greatest, you know, golf cities in America.
Speaker 2: What do you think is the best city of golf.
Speaker 3: It's not even close. It's a week including Long Island.
Speaker 2: I always say our hour within metro Center, so we.
Speaker 3: Throw it within an hour and a half. It's not
Speaker 3: even close within it within an hour. I still think
Speaker 3: it's really hard to beat New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think now that.
Speaker 3: Now, Now that being said, Chicago is is a very
Speaker 3: close second. I would say Atlanta's got some good ones.
Speaker 3: I'd have to think about this.
Speaker 2: But I think Philly, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The discussion, for sure. Boston's in the discussion. For sure.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ones in Boston you don't really
Speaker 3: think about, to be honest, but I think it's New
Speaker 3: York and I don't really even think it's negotiable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's if you if you include all of Long Island.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's game over. I think if it's
Speaker 1: if it's an hour there, there can be discussion. But
Speaker 1: you know that that Long Island UH list is is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: So what are your I'll throw you a sneaky one
Speaker 3: that you don't think of of the world if you
Speaker 3: take out you know, Great Britain and Ireland. Obviously, there's
Speaker 3: so many that are so close over there, but I
Speaker 3: would throw Sydney or Melbourne in there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you get the sand Belt courses. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got Melbourne. That Kingston Heath place that had the World
Speaker 1: Cup looks absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just go over there, and I mean I
Speaker 3: just I've never heard anything but just overwhelmingly raising her views.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of my one of my one of our subscribers
Speaker 1: to the newsletter wrote up he went on an eight
Speaker 1: day trip there.
Speaker 2: I think he played ten courses.
Speaker 1: He did a big write up that we're going to
Speaker 1: put up later this week on UH on just his
Speaker 1: experience and the pictures he shared just looks so spectacular.
Speaker 1: It's definitely high on my bucket list.
Speaker 2: Have you been over there?
Speaker 3: I haven't. I I haven't I'd love to go to
Speaker 3: my shortlist of things. I'm a big surfer. I'd loved it,
Speaker 3: stop and Fiji and check out you know, some of
Speaker 3: the breaks you're going over there. But I can pretty
Speaker 3: confidently tell you it's not gonna happen in the next
Speaker 3: nine months. But as I look forward, I loved it.
Speaker 3: I loved it. You know, make that a real you
Speaker 3: want to be really cool.
Speaker 1: Well, the beauty of Australia is it's summer when it's
Speaker 1: winter here. So you know, maybe, uh, maybe next year
Speaker 1: this time it would be a good good time to go.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'll see if we can see if we get
Speaker 3: something on the books to be a kick to get
Speaker 3: down there and check it out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Let's just do some real quick rapid fire and then
Speaker 1: uh and then I'll let you go. You know, you've
Speaker 1: been been on for an hour now, so we'll do
Speaker 1: some rapid fire questions and uh and get you out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: So who is your favorite player on tour? To watch.
Speaker 3: Sugar when he's playing, well, I mean shoot the whole
Speaker 3: golf roll. When he was down at Albany, I was
Speaker 3: involved four or five different group text of you know
Speaker 3: what was going on I mean everyone was watching. If
Speaker 3: you were working that there's day Farne, you wing yourself,
Speaker 3: because you were if you're an avocult and we all
Speaker 3: know you were streaming it at the office on some
Speaker 3: kind of device.
Speaker 1: Yea. But yeah, But.
Speaker 3: I've always really enjoyed watching watching Adam Scott. I love
Speaker 3: his demeanor out there. I love the way he gets it. Obviously,
Speaker 3: love his swing. You know, if you want to include
Speaker 3: by you that I always love to watch, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of Jordan and Justin and send it. You know
Speaker 3: it's gonna watch Smiley, but I'll play it. It's a
Speaker 3: lot of fun to watch guys who I kind of
Speaker 3: grew up with as they're making their way kind of
Speaker 3: through the tours, you know, whether it's mini tours of
Speaker 3: the way when they received sponsors, exemptions, they're going to
Speaker 3: see how they do out there and the big guys
Speaker 3: and now they handled themselves and it was really cool
Speaker 3: to watch, like Michael Johnson last year, and you know
Speaker 3: how well he played, you know, I think he took
Speaker 3: like T three or T four, and but but you know,
Speaker 3: events like that or like a Bobby Wyant. He made
Speaker 3: a noise at some point. But as far as favorite players. Go,
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna be a Tiger guy, but I love
Speaker 3: that of Scott's game. He needs to be fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh Scott is.
Speaker 1: I mean, man, if that guy made a couple more putts,
Speaker 1: he'd have so many wins.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Finish in Florida earlier this year when he was on it,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, the guy's a Scott in the
Speaker 3: total state.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so. You've been been to Midam for a year.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite midam tournament outside the US Midam?
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, you beat me to that one. I had
Speaker 3: a chance to playing the George Thomas earlier this year
Speaker 3: at Eli Country Club and play with a few of
Speaker 3: the guys Chris Minicholson, Mike McCloy, Barbee and just the
Speaker 3: camaraderie of the whole. You know, I guess you could
Speaker 3: take tour scene which is really special and it's a
Speaker 3: lot of guys with up kind of growing up looking
Speaker 3: up to, and it's a really unique opportunity to uh
Speaker 3: to kind of get to know some of those guys
Speaker 3: and pick their brains and how they really balance, you know,
Speaker 3: playing at a high ameter level, but also you know,
Speaker 3: their their time professionally, and it's a really kind of unique,
Speaker 3: you know tour and I just feel just feel very
Speaker 3: very you know, blasting and kind of its honored to be,
Speaker 3: you know, a younger guy on that scene and to
Speaker 3: try and live up to the standard that they've set
Speaker 3: before me. Yeah, forget the fact that they're all just
Speaker 3: great cats, they're just fun to be around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's good, good time. Midam golf is it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's I think the vibe of of Midam tournaments as
Speaker 1: good as I guess. You know, everybody wants, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to play well, everybody's really competitive, but after the round,
Speaker 1: everybody's laid back, you know, just there to have a
Speaker 1: good time and hang out.
Speaker 3: Oh no doubt. I mean I swear having having a
Speaker 3: beer or two, you know with some of the guys.
Speaker 3: You know, after it's all sitting down with the sun
Speaker 3: goes down, this stories that kind of come out and
Speaker 3: you know, hearing about them and their families or where
Speaker 3: they're from and talking like well, it's it's a tific
Speaker 3: my group. It's super fun.
Speaker 1: So outside of of Harvey, who we've talked about which
Speaker 1: which Midham has the most game, Like who who kind
Speaker 1: of was like you. You may may have heard of him,
Speaker 1: but you're like, wow, this guy can really play.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a few guys, your boyd or
Speaker 3: you know, our good friend to Mitchell carries himself like
Speaker 3: a through player and he's just just a great athlete.
Speaker 3: And I think as I get older, from a physical standpoint,
Speaker 3: I'd love to, you know, kind of be as as
Speaker 3: physically as haptics as he is.
Speaker 2: He hits his driver so well, he hits a driver
Speaker 2: so well.
Speaker 3: He just looks like a tour pro, you know him
Speaker 3: and him and Brad Wilder, Like you look at those
Speaker 3: guys on the range and you're just like you definitely
Speaker 3: played the cash cans. So those two guys for sure.
Speaker 3: I'll put Mike McCloy's short game up against the majority
Speaker 3: of the PGA tour. It fascinates me how well he
Speaker 3: he ships in his bunker play and how well he
Speaker 3: pitches it. I mean, Mike, I have so much respect
Speaker 3: for Mike. I mean, he missed playing. He was in
Speaker 3: a playoffs to go to the US Open this year
Speaker 3: for an altern shot which ended up getting in. But
Speaker 3: I mean he played in the Senior Open this year.
Speaker 3: But he nearly played in the US Open. It's just
Speaker 3: it's so much game and it's just it's super fun
Speaker 3: to watch a guy that I've gotten pretty close to
Speaker 3: on the East Coast being betting back there in the
Speaker 3: city is an old if. He's an older guy named
Speaker 3: George Sanranger. And George works so hard on this game.
Speaker 3: Is he has a great just great tempo, a great rhythm.
Speaker 3: It's a great plutter. But I've always been ask him, like, George,
Speaker 3: how how are you competitive? For so long? He is
Speaker 3: response about missine beat was like you get it up
Speaker 3: and down from the garbage camp. He just ships and
Speaker 3: pitches it so well. And whenever I see him, I
Speaker 3: always try and kind of pick his brain. You know,
Speaker 3: a lot different shots around the greens, and it's just
Speaker 3: just fun to be around and like to see how
Speaker 3: some of these guys get it in the hole. And
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think Gene Elliott uses a long clutter
Speaker 3: and he's a long cutter, so I you know, like
Speaker 3: to I mean jeans just best in every way. He's
Speaker 3: like so much fun to be around. But yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's a great group. But I would definitely those
Speaker 3: are kind of the first guys to come to mind
Speaker 3: and in some of the some of the ways that
Speaker 3: their games are kind of geared towards for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Mike McCoy would be just the
Speaker 1: word guy to see in match play just be like,
Speaker 1: oh God, just grind it, grind it out.
Speaker 3: We played together at the Thomas, and I'll never forget
Speaker 3: there was beside the fact to put every bunker shot
Speaker 3: to like and I was just like, wow, amazing. But
Speaker 3: he was behind the green on one. I don't ever
Speaker 3: played la to a that left pin me and the
Speaker 3: shots impossible. You need to just have the ball, fight
Speaker 3: that base and pick up as much as you can.
Speaker 3: And he hit this little ship shot where he just
Speaker 3: took the legs from under the ball and this thing
Speaker 3: bounce once and stop on a dime, and then it
Speaker 3: rolled the next six feet like it literally stopped. The
Speaker 3: ball stops because the slip was supposed to be rolled
Speaker 3: another six feet to it. But and I just kind
Speaker 3: of shook my head and I'm just like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: that's I don't have that shot. That's so impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's a guy I played with at
Speaker 1: the mid aam He was. He was hitting it everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like we get off it and he was. He
Speaker 1: hit some of the like probably like four or five
Speaker 1: of the most incredible flap shots I've ever seen, like
Speaker 1: Darren Overson who's from Utah, and you could tell he
Speaker 1: was fighting a swing.
Speaker 2: But like he put he didn't he didn't make match play.
Speaker 1: But like you know, if I if you put me
Speaker 1: where his ball was, I would have probably shot ninety
Speaker 1: ball days. And this guy just was getting up and
Speaker 1: down from everywhere. I mean, it's it's incredible how some
Speaker 1: of these guys get it done. And it it just
Speaker 1: his short game saves you so many shots.
Speaker 2: You know, you can hit it. You can hit it
Speaker 2: pretty much everywhere.
Speaker 1: So if you had to play one course every day
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, what course would it be?
Speaker 3: M I guess his tough to be Cyprus is really fun.
Speaker 3: I love going out there. What a neat spot. I
Speaker 3: played National Ball blanks out on Long Island. It's got
Speaker 3: such a unique kind of cool vibe to it. It's
Speaker 3: just it's really fun. It's a great match play course
Speaker 3: also a great stroke play course, and you've got to
Speaker 3: go out and post a number the vistas and the
Speaker 3: finishing holes are are absolutely amazing, you know, having a
Speaker 3: having a south had on the porch, as as anyone
Speaker 3: that's settlement out there, you know, as has done. I mean,
Speaker 3: as the sun goes down over there, you know, come
Speaker 3: over the sound, you gotta take a step back and
Speaker 3: just realize how how lucky you are to be there.
Speaker 3: But one that one that I guess is kind off
Speaker 3: the beaten pat that I'll throw you is this place
Speaker 3: up in Montana called Rock Creek. It's it's a really
Speaker 3: really neat spot and it's just a really fun golf course.
Speaker 3: It's not super demanding off the tee, but especially you
Speaker 3: can make a bunch of birdies, but there also has
Speaker 3: plenty of teeth and plenty of length things. It's twenty
Speaker 3: tea boxes you can play for or play from. Just
Speaker 3: a really just a fun golf course and a really
Speaker 3: great kind of finishing stretch.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good little sleeper there. National National
Speaker 1: Golf Links is like number one on my bucket list.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge seth rain er CB McDonald fan. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Mecca.
Speaker 3: It's it's a special place and I've got the opportunity
Speaker 3: to play out there a couple of times, and it's
Speaker 3: just when you get there, and you will, it's just
Speaker 3: a just a really neat, cool golf course, just a
Speaker 3: special place.
Speaker 1: So I think you know, I want to get you
Speaker 1: out of here. We've been talking for an hour fifteen.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate the time, and we'll look forward to
Speaker 1: kind of tracking your progress as we get closer to
Speaker 1: the Masters.
Speaker 2: And thanks so much for coming on. Anybody that doesn't
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Speaker 1: I know, I know we'll probably be seeing something from
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Speaker 1: you're going to get this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love my mom with goad that that one's
Speaker 3: awfully tough to beat.
Speaker 2: So thanks, thanks so much for coming on. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate the time.
Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you very much for having me. And
Speaker 3: you know I look forward to seeing you down the
Speaker 3: road and can't wait to follow from your content as
Speaker 3: it goes on. So thank you very very much.
Speaker 2: Hey, I have a good one and I have a
Speaker 2: great holiday season.
Speaker 3: La