WEBVTT - Stewart Hagestad 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.400 All right, we are back for another episode of the 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.240 Frida Egg Podcast, and we are excited today to have 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:11.520 Stuart Hagastad as our guests. Stuart won this year's US 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.880 Midam and that earned him an invitation into next year's Masters, 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.120 and he's also likely candidate for the twenty seventeen Walker 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:22.000 Cup team. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:23.880 Stuart, thanks for coming on. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.160 Thanks for having me. I'm excited to get this thing going. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:33.760 Yeah, yeah, So would love if you could tell us 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.400 a little bit about yourself, give everybody a little background 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.440 on how you got into golf, and and we'll kind 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:43.120 of go from there. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.240 Sure. So, I was watching up to grow up in 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.440 Orange County, California, and I grew up on a golf 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.400 course called Big Canyon. Don's a great guy. He loves 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:59.520 to play, as I laughed him about like a fourteen 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.320 th SE's of five and played like a twenty. My 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.800 mom's the closet athletic one in the family. She you know, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.480 she'll never admit it, but every time I see it 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.400 throw footballor hit a golf ball, it's right up the 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.119 middle or with a perfect spiral. So I think between 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.120 the two of them, you know, I between those two 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:17.880 things and growing up on a golf course. I kind 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.080 of just I just really gravitated towards the game. It 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.759 was this kid. It was pretty good when he was young. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.600 He would always play by himself, and I'm sure he 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.800 was playing worst ball or playing two balls or something, 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.839 but I don't remember this, but I guess in ninety seven, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.319 when I was watching The Masters on TV, I told 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.280 my parents that that was Tiger and that's the that's 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.959 the story that that they like to kind of, you know, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.160 refer back to. You know, they knew pretty early that 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.520 I was, you know, pretty interested in the game. So 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.280 my dad went to at Sea and I've been doing 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.240 the football game since I was young. My middle school 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.640 in early high school years were the Reggie Bush and 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.520 Liner and Pete Carroll days. So I don't think I had, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.840 you know, much of a choice of where I was 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.480 gonna end up going. So I went to see. I 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.480 was a busney major. Loved playing golf, but I realized 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.000 pretty quickly that there was a lot of talent out there. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.440 So I have the opportunity to work a couple of 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.280 spots when I was in college over the summer, and 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.800 I knew once I graduated at wanted to stay competitive, 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.640 but I wasn't quite sure how I would do that. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.560 Now aggressively, I would pursue you know, Amber golf, and 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.760 I think just after college it really made me realize 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.280 just how much I love the game and I'm lucky 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.680 enough to still be in love with it now. So 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.160 it's it's been a lot of fun. It's been a 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.919 great couple of years. But excited for the next chapter 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.280 kind of going forward for sure. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.519 Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.360 It's a lot of ams that don't have the game 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.520 to turn pro. It's a you know, me being one 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.440 of them. Just being able to get the competitive juices 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.840 flowing while you're working, while you have a job. It 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.320 just is it is great to you know, get out 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:04.839 and enjoy competition and uh, you know you've got You've 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.360 had quite the career. So tell us a little bit about, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.320 you know, playing at USC and what that was like. 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.880 Sure, yeah, you know, we we had a great team 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.200 when I was there. Coach Samary and I have a 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.079 great relationship. When I came in. I don't know what 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:25.519 we were ranked, but it was it was kind of 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.800 there with the teams of the Tonals, like the Oklahoma 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.120 States and the Georgia had a really good team. I 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.120 think if the keris English from Russell Henley, think Hudson 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.640 was there Oklahoma State. The team was littered with good players. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.240 It was like the Leon brothers and Trent White Killer 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.280 and Shinea iron House and Peter u Line and I 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.040 think Ricky was there my freshman year. Morgan Hoffman was there. 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.280 It was just was crazy. So the expectation was high 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.280 on the kids on the SC team. I think the 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.560 year before I got there they had bib All Americans 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.160 or something close to it. They had Matt Giles, Tom Glesmeyer, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:05.160 Jimmy Lovemark, Tim Sluter. I think Rory he left the 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.920 year before. One of your guys. I think Ryan Linton 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.600 was on the team, I think the year before. But yeah, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.000 the standard was high, so it was it was great, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.000 and it was just it was a great opportunity to 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.640 kind of figure out just how good I really was 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.520 compared to the best guys out there. And I love 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.560 coach Sambry and funny how as you get older, you 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.719 began that kind of appreciate, you know what he told 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.560 you a lot more and he was kind of like 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.840 ste like, you're good but you need to get a 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.480 lot better, and you need to do it in hurry. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:43.320 It's uh, it's interesting. I hear from our earlier podcast. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.880 Justin Silverstein was on USC's assistant coach. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.839 He says that you are one. 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.920 Of the best iron players statistically they've ever had there. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.680 That's probably because of how short I hit it. I 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.400 think in afford to miss, you know, miss my numbers 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.400 very often. But I think he's giving me a lot 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.960 more credit than I deserve with that one. I've seen 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.120 some of the boys, and I love coach and I 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.880 love Justin. But I guess I'll just take that compliment 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:14.800 and can run with it. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.560 Yeah, hey, you know you mentioned Tom. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.120 I'll take what I can get. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.040 You mentioned Tom Glismeyer. That's the name I haven't heard 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.240 in forever. Do you know what he's up to nowadays? 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.919 I think he I think he is either working to 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.159 get his amateur status back. I know he's he's kind 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.720 of moved on from professional golf. I haven't really talked 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.560 to him. I can find out. I know a few 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.240 of the boys he's close with. Last I remember, I 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.720 thought he was either I want to say, like in 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:45.920 Texas or maybe back home in Colorado. But Tom was 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.599 really really bright, and he was kind of one of 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.280 the guys I remember when I was being recruited that 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.080 you know, he always and I said, hey, you know, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.480 there's life beyond golf. I'm not gonna do the communication 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.080 major thing. I'm gonna be an econe major. I'm gonna 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.040 set myself up to the feature. And I've always had 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.400 a ton of respect for Tom. He's he's he's just done. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.480 And he was even he was even more stubly in college. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.159 He was. He was definitely one of the guys that 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.440 I kind of looked up to, both from my golf 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.360 and from a from a character standpoint. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:16.280 Yeah. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.640 Yeah, it's one of those guys that's you wonder how 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.040 how it didn't get how it didn't work out, But 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.560 that's golf, you know, happens all the time. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.480 It's so you know, when you won the US mid m. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.360 You know there there's the infamous video of Justin Thomas 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.800 celebrating going nuts. You know her Jordan Speeth and you 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.760 guys are are great, great buddies. What would you say? 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.520 You know the difference in your game and their game 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:53.680 is and you know how you know how evident is it. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.200 Yeah, I mean I would say a few things. You know, 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.640 I've been working up and know all those kids since 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.599 we've put juniored off together, and first of all, touch 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.800 on Jordan because that's that's the more obvious one to me. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.800 Jordan's been the the best clutter I've ever seen since 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.840 he was fifteen. I like to here's a quick fun 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.600 story for you. So I don't know why they had 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.480 a playoff for fourth place in this Texas Union Golf 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.320 Tour event that we played in a long time ago, 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.440 but basically they wanted to give away the trophy, so 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.920 they threw this fourteen year old kid out with me 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.520 and google it. I'm sure the pictures still up. I 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.440 was wearing black shoes and a white belts, just a 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.120 rookie of stick all around. I had this big surfer 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.160 atro thing that I thought was cool back in the day. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.800 But we end up going out to this hole. I 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.559 make it great up and down. He you know, doesn't 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.720 get up and down. I end up beating it, and 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.680 I like to continually remind him just how you know, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.760 indicative that was of both of our careers. You know. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.480 Now I'm sitting here working and he's on tour, you know, 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.960 doing whatever he wants. But now Jordan is the best 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:09.840 putter I've ever seen. And when you make twenty five 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.040 putters on a somewhat regular basis, it makes your mid 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.200 and long irons seem I think a lot better than 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.280 they are. I mean, it's not like he's had by 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.240 any stretch, but you know, when you hit it to 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.840 the middle of the green, it makes it pretty stress 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.200 for you when you're as good of a putter's ears. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.800 And the other thing too, is he has this innate 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:32.560 ability from what I've seen ultimately played together and on TV, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.840 but his short game only gets better under pressure. A 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.120 lot of the better players have it where you know 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.040 when the chips are down and when you know it's 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.960 coming down to the fourteenth, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen hole. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:47.840 He saw it a few years ago at the Masters. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.400 I mean that up and down on eighteen in the 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:54.640 third round is impossibly hard, and as a better player, 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.959 you understand just how good that is that he's in 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.520 a he's just so so efficient around greens, and then 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.120 as far as JT goes, he just has so much 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:09.840 speed and it's he's just very, very efficient. And I've 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.560 always kind of said for a while, he's just as 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.440 good as Jordan, just maybe a couple of years behind 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.880 in terms of kind of growth on the golf course, 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.160 but he'll be right there. And I it would shock 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.360 me if he wasn't sewn inside the top five eight 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.560 town in the world. And then the last thing is 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:26.840 just between the two of them and a lot of 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.720 the guys out there is just believe in themselves. You know, 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.120 they're like the idea of of not being the top 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.280 player in the world just isn't a thing. You know, 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.880 we go out and you know you're you're a good player, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.840 and you get you know, three four, five hundred power 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.440 after the winter months, and you know it's kind of like, oh, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.320 you know, this is it okay to be this low? 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.400 I mean, those guys, shoot, they get it to seven, eight, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.200 nine and PGA Tour events and they get their pedal 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.520 to the floor. So I think it's kind of a 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:56.480 combo of those things. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.560 For sure, I like get scared once I hit like 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.640 four under par. It's like, WHOA don't want don't want 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:03.559 to screw this up. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.120 I'm good for about six or seven, and then it's 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.400 kind of like, oh, who do you love to keep 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:13.199 it going. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:14.920 It is. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.920 It is quite ironic, how like you get there and 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.960 then for some reason your brain like, oh, just don't 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.800 mess this up and rather than being like, oh, just 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:28.360 keep doing what you're doing, you know, it's yeah, it's it's. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.000 The more times you do it. You know, I've gotten 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:31.880 better over the years, but you can always get better. 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.920 But it's wild to me just to get those boys 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.000 on a tour when they're just you know, casually eight 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.600 or nine under par on like fourteen or fifteen. And 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.360 you know, every every golf blog out there, including myself, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.800 is just like, oh, boys, you're taking it low. See 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:49.520 all love it can go. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.040 Yeah, So you know they were Are you a little 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:58.440 you know, upset you didn't get an invite to spring 0:10:58.520 --> 0:10:59.960 Break twenty sixteen? 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.480 And do you think you could have added some. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:08.560 Valuable you know, you know, a value add to the 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:14.200 experience if you could get a call for twenty seventeen, Hey. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.560 I think I could add value. But you know, it's funny. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.160 I've thought about this before, and you know, buddies that 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.920 have kind of kind of asked me about it. And 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:30.719 I love having my life be very private and I 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.640 try and for the most part kind of stay off 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.960 social media. So at first I was kind of like, yeah, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.280 it looks fun and you know, that sounds amazing. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:39.599 And then the more I kind of think about it, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.160 after you sleep on it, it's kind of like, you know, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.120 probably not the worst idea that that you didn't. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.680 Get the advice to do. No one needs to see 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:54.680 with your shirt off anyways. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:57.160 So hey, I look, I you know, I'll leave it 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.560 up to them. But yeah, that's that's where we're gonna 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:01.839 go with that. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.640 I can definitely say that if I get. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.000 An INN for twenty seventeen, it'll be the second you know, 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.240 I think it's good. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:09.800 Mine I'm receiving in the spring. 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:16.080 Yeah, perfect segue. So, you know, one would say that 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.440 the next nine months of your life outside of like 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.640 you know, having a kid or it could possibly be 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:27.960 the best nine months of your life, assuming you get 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.200 onto that Walker Cup team. So what's it like knowing 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.520 with the Masters and potentially the Walker Cup coming up 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.199 like that, this is the best nine months of your 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.160 life had you know, first Masters, first Walker Cup? 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.280 Sure? Well, real quick, I mean in regards to the 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.440 Walker Cup, I mean what God's and Scott and I 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.200 have discussed this before. You know, we put ourselves in 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.560 a position where we're on the radar, but you know, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.480 there's a lot of work to be done, and you 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.240 definitely have to earn your way, you know, to even 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.160 be considered. I mean, it's it's an honor to event 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.240 at the practice session, but there's there's a lot of 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.680 things that need to be done there, I mean, from 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.480 a lot of different standpoints. But yeah, the next nine 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.839 months are a're gonna be pretty cool, you know, as 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:17.320 I've joke to you before, and like he just alluded to, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.199 you know, instid of having a kid or getting married. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.120 It's it's a good spot to be in. But at 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.720 the same time, there's also a lot of expectation that 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.960 I've put on myself, and you know, there's a lot 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.880 of people that are making the trip down and I 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.360 don't want to I don't want to make it seem 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.760 like I'm putting, you know, other pressure on me. But 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.320 I think I've gotten past that stage and now I'm 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.640 just really trying to use his motivation. How efficient can 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.160 I be with the time that I have before that. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.000 You know, I've got a few events that I'm playing 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.600 kind of leading up to the Masters, to prepare, and 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.200 I really just I want to go with what the 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.840 old adage says. I want to take it one day 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.760 at a time. I want to focus on the little things, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:03.240 be very detail oriented, be goal oriented. And and one 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.520 great thing about this thing that happened last week aftert 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.600 LA is you got an opportunity to to really kind of, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.120 you know, see how good some of the best guys 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:15.400 in college golf are. And you know it'll be it'll 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.839 be really neat to kind of see how to test 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.600 your game and to really see how you are against 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.520 the best in the world. Into learning experience. Well, I'd 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.560 be upset if I don't play the big down there. Yeah, sure, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.760 but you know it's it's something I've dreamed about ever 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.240 since I was a kid. And as I just said, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.360 you know it'll be it'll be a great opportunity to 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.040 test my game against the world's best. And I think 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.960 if I prepare the right way and I have the 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.600 right attitude going into it, I think I can. You know, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.720 I have the game and the mentality to hopefully surprise 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.240 a couple of boys to do it for a living. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.920 But either way, I mean just the week and really 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.440 even after that that I kind of play some of 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.560 the by parameter events throughout the summer. It'll just be 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.520 a really cool special time to focus on something I 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.840 really love to do. And you know, after that's over, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.720 I'm sure I'll get to reflect with friends and family 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.720 over over how that time was from a learning experience 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.280 and also from a golf standpoint. So it'll be it's 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.120 pretty cool, and I'm very very blessed and very lucky 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.920 and really just kind of humbled to be in a 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.720 position that I have, and I'm gonna try and make 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:19.280 most of it. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.480 Yeah, I think just soak it all in, as uh, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.560 that's probably the best, you know thing, Just you know, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.600 enjoy it because you never know, you know, I think 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.640 about the speech that they gave at the mid Am. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.520 It's like, you know, you never know when you're going 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.080 to be back, and you know that it's just got 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.480 to enjoy every every aspect of it. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.640 Cool, yeah, for sure, And a lot of guys have 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.880 kind of echoed the same thing. You know. I talked 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.440 to Maxim about his experience at the the US Open 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.200 or a couple of weeks ago, was with Kim Hogarth 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.240 and he was talking about his time after he won 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:55.800 the pub links and kind of the chance to go 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.920 down there, and both of them kind of said the 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.160 same thing. They were both you know, kind of said, hey, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.720 you know, obviously, go and play great and have the 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.560 mentality that you want to go down there and you 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.800 play to win. You know, it doesn't really matter the 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.240 scale of the event, whether it's an event or literally 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.880 a major. But at the same time, also appreciate the 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.800 opportunity while you're there to kind of look around and 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.640 to look at, you know, how gorgeous the flowers are 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.960 on the side of their team, or to see friends 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.640 and family that made the trip to be there and 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.560 to support you. It's it's a really neat deal and 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.920 you know, as I said, I absolutely want to make 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.160 the most of it. But as an old college coach 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.520 who's now at Taylor coach mcgrosst, Big golf Ball has 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.120 no idea who you are, so you know, just just 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.480 go down there and and do the best you can. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.480 And that's all you can do is focus on what 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.280 we can control. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.040 That's that's good advice. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.800 So we'll get more into the Masters and you know 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.160 kind of what you're doing. You know, I want to 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.360 first touch on your win at the US mid Am. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.560 So sure, for those that didn't see it on TV, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.600 one of the most you know, thrilling finishes of any 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.840 golf tournament of the year. You were four down with 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.280 five to go, right, or four down with five to go, 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.760 and made, you know, four birdies in the last five 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.280 holes to pull even with Scott Harvey. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:20.080 Uh. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:25.840 One of the best midm players in the world. And yeah, 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.360 I mean he's been the medalist at the mid Am 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.320 four times and I think like the last six years 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.040 or something like that, something like that. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.040 I mean, it's it's pretty it's pretty safe to it's 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.479 going to schedule him in there over here. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.840 Yeah, and be a high seed. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:52.040 So yeah, yeah, sure, walk us through kind of the week, like, 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.000 did you have a feeling going in, like did your 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.240 game feel really good? 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.840 You know, was it something that you know, you felt 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.360 like you had a really great chance to win when 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:03.440 you got there. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.920 Yeah, I mean, and forgiving me, I have a tendency 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:15.320 to kind a ramble, and but yeah, I earlier this 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:20.080 summer I played really great at the Metropolitan Ameterar. I 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.920 played great and stroke play and then after that I 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.320 ended up winning the thing. So it cuts from a 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.400 field of call. It eighty to sixteen and then it's 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.639 kind of match play from then on end. So I 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.919 had some matchplay experience, and you know, there was a 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.679 few times in a few of those matches where I 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.160 was medalist in stroke play, and you know, everyone kind 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.080 of had I had a target on my back, so 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.239 I felt like I really kind of had to bring it, 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.200 you know, for every match. So I was down, you 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:50.920 know the times kind of going into the back nine, 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.159 and I was able to grind it back and I 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.000 actually went to thirty eight poles in that one in 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.000 the finals. So I was comfortable in match play. But 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.480 that being said, going into the week two months later 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.119 at the mid am, I wasn't hitting it as great 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:11.359 as I would have liked. In the practice round, I 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:16.360 literally I played eighteen holes in a practice round on 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.040 the big course where we had you know, that second eighteen, 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.440 and then I actually only played nine for the bat 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.320 nine on the other course and went in together nine 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.159 blind because I was so annoyed with how I was 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:26.960 hitting it. So I went to the range and I 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.920 worked some stuff out and my caddy was totally fine 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:32.560 with it. He wasn't feeling his best. He was like, shoot, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.440 I've done here before. You can I can coach you around. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.560 We've done this before, so okay, great. But I went 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.159 to the range, I worked some stuff out and Sammy 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.760 Schmidt's I was sitting ball next to Sam earlier in 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.679 the week and he won the Midham last year, and 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.600 one of the things he kind of said to me was, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.879 as the week goes on in match play, you don't 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:57.000 really get tired because you're you're adrenaline just keeps hitting 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.720 me through. And that was one of the things that 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.480 kind of stuck with me the whole week. So I 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.120 knew that if I could start getting it a little 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.320 bit better and kind of get into a rhythm and 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.639 get into a you know, a feel where I was 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.439 kind of comfortable with my game, you know, maybe we 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.680 could uh we could we could make we could reach 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.400 some havoc and match play. And then the other side 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.239 of it too, is because I am twenty five and 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.840 technically a midium. I turned twenty five earlier this year. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.000 I spent a lot of time in the offseason last 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.639 winter in New York kind of trying to put on 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.200 some weight and working out again. Bit so I felt 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.879 like in terms of physical fitness, I was in pretty 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.080 good shape and kind of like I said, you know, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:39.040 I really, you know, enjoyed playing the second leg of 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.119 those thirty six whole days out there. Those for me 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.480 were fun, and you know, that's one of the things 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.000 I'm going to look forward to do in the next 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.879 few months. But I really think, you know, that extra 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.120 work in the gym was was huge as it kind 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:53.680 of came down throughout that week. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:55.160 Yeah, I bet. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.560 I mean it's a big advantage being younger in the 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.120 you know, especially when you know some of those guys, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.159 you know, some of the guys are you know, forty 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.000 forty two playing And it was so hot that week. 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.680 I mean, it was so hot that week. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.960 I had the last tea time the first round of 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.040 the tournament, and I remember it. 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:17.320 Was just. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.600 It was one of the hottest, you know, te off 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:28.240 times I've ever had. It was nuts, but it was Yeah, 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.160 they had to be tough playing that North course blind 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.600 with those greens. What do you think overall about the 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:35.240 golf course? 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.800 I played the I played the back nun so I 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:43.119 didn't see the front, so one one was tricky. I 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.080 think I brokeied one and I also played it in 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.399 the second day in the stroke play when it was 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:52.480 really mid afternoon. Yeah, so I don't know. I look, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.560 I played. I played better that day. I joked with 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:58.560 my caddie as I mentioned it, I usually had faded 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:00.800 and I was sitting draws the whole week. On my 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:04.720 seventeenth hole of the second day on the North Course, 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.520 I get it cut into this two part three on seventeen, 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:11.879 like the ball kind of went up into the falling 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.760 left until right. I turned around in JD my cat, 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.040 you know, I was like, yes, this is it. It went, 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.760 It went went left to right. So I vividly remember 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.280 that shot. I feel like that was kind of the 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:26.320 turning point in my week of kind of going from 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.040 not hitting it so great. It's like kind of getting 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:29.200 back to where I was comfortable. 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.400 Yeah, It's funny how just one shot can do it. 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.760 It's uh, golf is such a goofy game. 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.520 It's crazy. It's crazy. So there's there's always, you know, 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.359 value to be taken from everything, So no doubt. 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:48.040 Yeah, so you know, I know, we got a bunch 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.280 of Twitter questions and I kind of broke them up. So, 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:55.120 you know, in regards to the Midham uh deplorable Mick 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:59.240 five cent, who his family member. 0:22:59.000 --> 0:22:59.960 Faced you in the sound. 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.480 He wants to he wants to know you know what 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.320 you were thinking in that match. So you were three 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.080 down after six to Mike McDermott, and uh, you know 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:12.359 kind of what changed? 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.200 What happened? What you know? How does that momentum flip? 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.880 Sure? So Mike's for those that don't know Mike, he's 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:22.920 a heck of a player. I think he had the 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:29.280 course record at the competitive course record at that's done well. 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:31.399 Again according to Mike Caddy, you spend a lot of 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.600 time in that area. But I mean I knew he's 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:37.520 a tall guy. He hits it great. I think he 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.760 played basketball in college and then and then an excuse 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:42.199 me season play that from in high school and then 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:43.680 he picked up golf and he was like a junior 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.639 or senior and uh ended up going to get a 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.879 small school to play for them. But no, Mike's Mike's 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.879 really really good. And I knew that match was going 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.520 to be top. He knew the course, he was comfortable 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.000 out there. He burdied the first two and then I 0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.240 made a silly treeplay on the third. I think I 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:03.199 probably got a little aggressive, but kind of like I mentioned, earlier. 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.920 I just mass play is so momentum driven, and I 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.760 knew that if I could grind it back and you know, 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.840 he pick a couple of good ones. You know, maybe 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:13.520 he made a bad swing and I was able to 0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.680 take advantage of it, or maybe I could get a 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.000 couple of shots at twelve, fifteen, eighteen feet and make 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.399 a plot or two. I just try I took it 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.000 one shot at a time. I tried to focus on 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:28.200 what I can control. But that was tough, no doubt, 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:32.879 because he's he was comfortable as anyone out there, and 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:36.280 that was I think in the quarters, so I was 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.400 I was definitely I was kind of going up against 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.960 the hometown here. There are probably forty or fifty guys 0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.199 out there supporting him. So Mike's a great guy and 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:46.880 it was a ton of fun to go up against him. 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.879 And even though I got the best, H'm'm sure, I mean, 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.760 I'm sure we'll go up against each other, you know, 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.480 at some point in the future. But you know, he's 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:59.000 a stud. So that was I'm lucky enough to walk 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:00.400 away with the death you here. 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.160 Yeah, I've heard from a buddy who used to play 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:07.720 in the Philly section that he's just unbelievable player. I 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.720 think he won their Philly Am this year, which. 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.440 Is he did. That's exactly right, he did. 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.800 So what were some of your favorite holes out there? 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.840 It's a for those of you guys that don't know Stonewall, 0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:27.480 it's a thirty six hole Tom Doak facility. Really cool place, 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:32.840 cool vibe, very cool club and uh, you know, great 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:33.720 piece of property. 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.240 Well I thought the flap five would pretty solid. 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:43.159 Yeah, yeah, those things are hard. I mean what you 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.080 did in that last match was incredible. 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.640 No, so let's run through it. Four was a great hole, 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:53.840 you know where you can get three litter hybrid, and 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:58.840 then it was a really tough, narrow green like six 0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.520 kind of set up. All to my I were there 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.960 was a kind of a creek kind of running down 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.920 the right side. In the middle of it, it was 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:10.480 a greatful water left junk right, and then just a 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:16.120 tough screen playing back into the wind. You obviously I'm 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.199 a huge fan at number nine. As we kind of 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.360 go towards the back nine, I thought fifteen, even though 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.800 it's only one hundred and call it seventy five yards, it's. 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.920 Just so hard possibly awkward. 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:27.880 Part three, it was. 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.520 So hard I don't know, you know, I, how do 0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:33.399 you even like? 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.800 That? Is so hard to hit that green? 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:41.480 So I went back and I've only watched the telecast once, 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.119 and to be totally honest, it was basically to make 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.239 sure I didn't embarrass myself on national TV, to make 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.400 sure like I didn't do anything stupid. But I don't 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.040 know if you can hear it in the telecast, but 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.640 I remember the conversation with my caddie and we were 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.080 kind of going back and forth between nine or eight 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.000 iron and seven iron, you know, because you basically had 0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:02.560 to land it at the front of the green and literally, 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:04.000 so call it. You had to land it at like 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.879 sixty four, which is like four yards more than I 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:11.440 hit eighty and seven goes one seventy five. So Jade 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.240 and I are going back and forth and we're like, well, 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.720 we can't miss left, and you can't miss long, and 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.280 you can't miss short, and you can't miss so there's 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:24.120 nowhere to miss. Yeah, it's it's just it's such a 0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:27.320 tough part three, but it's also so fare Yeah, and 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.520 you know, if you hit a good shot there, it 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:29.920 was great. 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:30.639 You know. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.919 The other tricky thing about that hole was that it 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:38.440 was really hard to feel the wind because of it 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:39.240 was it's. 0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.840 Back in that little in that little corner. 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:45.480 Uh huh, it's I mean I remember distinctly like having 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:46.880 no clue what was going. 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.520 On with the wind when I was playing that hole. 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.280 Yeah, I mean, it's it's just it's so awkward, but 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.680 in such a fair way. 0:27:56.760 --> 0:28:01.040 It's I think that fourth hole that you brought up, 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.240 it's got to be one of the hardest par. 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.840 Fours under four hundred yards I've ever played. 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.720 I mean, the t is hard enough, and then that's 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.600 not even a hard part of the whole year long. 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.240 You're looking at five at best or six. Yeah, if 0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:20.480 you're looking at it impossibly awkward pot if you missed right, 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.639 it's just it's just it's just top. Just there's no 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:24.720 way about it. It's just top. 0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.480 I think that golf course in general is a perfect example. 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.200 People always are like it's got to be seven thousand yards, 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.199 Like that course at sixty eight hundred yards was like 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:41.000 everything you can you know, handle, Oh. 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.600 Yeah, I mean, and I didn't even mention, you know, 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.800 seventeen and eighteen. I think eighteen was probably my favorite 0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.080 hole on our golf course. But it was just it 0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:50.720 was a great mix of kind of mixing with the 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.280 t's and you know, hitting drivers in three wood and 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:54.800 then you know there are a couple of three yrons there. 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.400 It's not like it forced you to hit free wood 0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.760 or driver anywhere. I saw twenty of guys on number 0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.440 three the part five you know hit hybrid just because 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.000 of how Walkward had gone, you know, but it's also 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.680 a few bus driver and bus three that you can 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.080 get up there. But no, it was It's it's a 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.400 really neat spot and I really enjoyed being out there. 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.200 I thought it was. I enjoyed the was it the 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.840 new but it's the only played the match play mm 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.600 hmm a little more. I could just hit my eye 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.040 a little bit better, but just really just a unique 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:26.920 you know from the clips. 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:32.040 Yeah, so with that match with Scott, you know, a 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.120 quick question, have you ever seen him hit a wedge 0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.880 not inside of ten feet? 0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.440 He's the best. He's the best cameur player under pressure 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.160 I've ever seen. He doesn't he just when the chips 0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:46.760 are down. And we and we've gone off each other 0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.800 a few times this summer. We played each other and 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.040 he played the funnel round at the Thomas together and 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.520 then we went to an aggregate playoff and I end 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.320 up losing on this first sudden dep playoff. We went 0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.240 to a twenty three for eight playoff at the us 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:04.280 Ameter this year and not even one shots just around 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:09.080 the green bunker, shots chips. You know. I he's just 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.040 he's so good under pressure with the with the lowbleedge 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:13.960 of his hand, and I was going to, you know, 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.480 get him. I'll sacrifice three or four years of my 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.760 youth to you to have your wedge game inside eighty 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.320 five yards. It's it's it's it's as good as Simps 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:23.960 were players. 0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.320 Yeah, it just seems like every time he's got a 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.360 wedge in his hand, it's like four or five feet away. 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.600 So with the with with the final kind of five, 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.880 like you know, what was going through your head? You 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.520 know you're hanging in there, and you know he's just 0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.320 such a tough competitor. Did you know it just seemed 0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:48.080 like you just started to hit shots a lot really close. Yeah. 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.640 Well, I feel like I was sitting it pretty good 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.960 all day. It's me anything to the fall. And what 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:56.920 I kept telling myself really throughout the day was, you know, 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.680 not to play again. It's just so and I'm driven, 0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.840 and if I can turn that four down lead for 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.560 four down deficit, I guess and do a two down deficit. 0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.040 Being two downs still brutal, but it's the hecking a 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.280 lot better than being four down, and that momentum it 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.400 scares you a little bit. And you know, we've all 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.120 played match play, we all know what it's like. And again, 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.720 the difference between one down and three down is a lot. 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:23.400 I just, you know, I figured if I could give 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.120 myself a chance, I had a feeling all day that 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:26.960 the match was going to go the distance, even though 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.480 it didn't particularly look like it. Both my parents gave 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.960 up on me, not once, but twice. They give up 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.080 to me. They gave up on me, you know, after 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.240 twenty seven, and then when I missed that plot on thirteen, 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:44.040 they were like, yeah, he's done. So it was, as 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:48.000 I said, I just I really wanted to leave everything 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.120 I had out there, so I had a feeling it 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.239 might go the distance. But again, if I could just 0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:53.960 scare them, I thought I had a change. So kind 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:59.480 of after I breaded fourteen and fifteen, I made a 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.440 couple of goods the whole they started getting a little 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.880 bit bigger and I guess you could just say I 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.080 kind of got hot at the right moment, and the 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.440 chips were down and the pressure kind of came up. 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.200 As people talk about at the zone. I don't know. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.880 The reality is, I really don't remember a whole lot 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:25.080 of the last forty five minutes. I wish I could 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.600 give you more yea for putting a shot on seventeen. 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.480 I just what I mean, I really don't remember a 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.800 whole lot of it. I remember everything being very simple. 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.240 I remember JD would get me a yardage and I'd 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.320 be like, okay, you know, how do you like that 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.080 tree in the distance, and get it looks good? Okay, 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:52.360 Like everything became very very easy. I guess you could 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:56.920 say I don't know, but it was. It was a 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.240 crazy afternoon. And the only other thing I'll say about 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.640 that is it's it's probably the most memorable phone call 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.440 I've ever made in my mom and dad afterwards, it 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.880 was it was pretty cool. So I wish I could 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.560 give you more, but I swear to you, I just 0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:14.160 don't really remember a whole lot of it. 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.960 Yeah, it's I can imagine. 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.720 I mean, it probably just feels like everything bunds together, 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.600 and I mean so much, so much pressure and so 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.720 much you know, adrenaline that it probably you know it, 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:29.640 I couldn't even imagine. 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.520 So I just I remember, like one of the few 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:35.280 things that I that I do remember is I just 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.120 really tried to work on my breathing. It's just you know, 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.160 just try didn't slow down everything I did. But I 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.880 don't know, it was it was crazy. 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:50.720 So yeah, so you win on the thirty seventh hole 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.960 with a birdie, and you know, winning the US Midam 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:57.920 gets you a bunch of exemptions into you know, USGA 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:02.320 events for years to come, but obviously the big one 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.760 of them all is you know, the invitation to the Masters. 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:09.000 So like, how long did it take for to you know, 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:13.239 set in where you you know, before you know where, Wow, 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:14.880 I'm I'm playing in the Masters. 0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:23.239 After after I made the putt and Hug Scott and 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.359 my caddie and I had a bunch of friends kind 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.640 of come down, there's a point where I kind of 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.600 snapped out of it and I looked up the hill 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:35.400 where a lot of the crowd were right before, you know, 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.959 the little Chilphy presentation on it on the ninth green, 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:40.239 and it kind of hit me that it was like, 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:45.600 oh wow, like what just happened? What it was? It 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.560 was like I had woken up, and it definitely, it 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.440 definitely took some time to kind of later, you know, 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.719 kind of figured out. But you know, I had a 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.160 bunch of buddies that were kind of text me like, hey, 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.360 what are you doing tonight? You're going out up on 0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.480 I told all of them, you know, the only thing 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.359 I want to do. And I told him the next 0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:09.000 day because that night was just you know, talking to 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.680 my family members. But I was just like, you know, 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.200 all I want to do is stay on a couch 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:19.880 and you know, just revel in what this feels like. 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:25.960 And it was I still think myself, it's it's us 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.640 the dream come true. It's something that you know, you 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:33.240 think about as a kid, and it's it's pretty special. 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:41.080 So have you gotten the invitation yet for Augusta and 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:41.880 the Masters. 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.520 Yeah, I haven't perceived, and I have been told that 0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:50.200 it comes around Christmas. But basically I talked to a 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.320 few you know, out of the numbers and UH and 0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.120 and committee guys down Canada Agusta and basically what they 0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.560 sent me a couple of weeks after the mid Aam 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:02.920 was an invitation to receive the invitation. Just in terms 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:06.400 of dates and stuff, we got four. But I've spoken 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.840 to a few of those guys and you know, I 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.720 you know, I'm as I said, I'm I'm looking forward 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:18.200 to April. So we're in the clear. And I didn't 0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:19.680 put my foot in my mouth too much so. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.839 That so Silverstein told me that you've got to play 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:29.040 Augusta when you were at USC So, uh, you know 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.399 you've seen the course before, is that the only time 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:31.920 you've played it? 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:33.520 And what do you what do you think about the 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:35.879 golf course and how it fits your game? 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.719 So you'll like this. I don't think I've told you 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.680 this before, but the first time I actually played Augusta, 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.879 my senior year, art director Pat Hayden took us down there. 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.920 And the first time I actually played Augusta was with 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.080 another senior on the team, our assistant coach at the time, 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.120 and a guy who gets to play Augusta every year 0:36:57.160 --> 0:37:03.360 as a marker, Jump Knox. That was pretty cool and 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:08.239 it's it's it's by far the most narous I've ever 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:13.720 been over first tea shot, the guys from the clubhouse 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.520 kind of came out and they watched us and it's 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:22.680 just it's it's I think the lock or what I 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:24.919 remember is the walk from to up at your t shop, 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.200 the kind of door around the corner, and the golf 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.640 course kind of opens up to me. That's what I 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.760 imagine for an avid golfer and someone who plays competitive, 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:39.800 that's what I imagine. Haven't looking like, Yeah, it's I 0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.160 don't know what I kind of can can't say, but 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:48.399 it's I again, like I said, I pinched myself every 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.719 every time I think about the opportunity to go down there. 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.280 And as far as the way that I liked it vades, 0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.319 you know, it's it's going to come out or people 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.839 have made big deal out of how the golf course 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.799 allegedly favors guy who moved the goall from right to left. 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.719 I mean, I agree with it in practicality, and you 0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:10.799 know the way that the golf course kind of sets up. 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.879 But last my check, there's a guy who won there 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:19.560 six times that pretty exclusively hit all right. Yeah, so yeah, 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.040 I look, I I've got a little bit of speed. 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:23.759 I'd like to put on a few more pounds and 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.080 a few more yards because I think it'll turn some 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.880 spots where having eight irons that a seven iron in 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.960 your hand, you know, it lands a little softer, allow 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:35.879 you to go after a couple more pains. But when 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.440 I played the golf course, I understand it's it's probably 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:41.680 very different than the golf course to All Sea in April. 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:46.239 But you know, if their ways are good ties, and 0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.160 I feel like I'm a pretty decent iron player, so 0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:50.640 I'm not going to change a whole lot. And it 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.360 kind of goes forward. If I have to lay up 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.080 on their team, well, then I have to lay up 0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.960 on their team, or you know I can't get to 0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.440 do well, then I'll just play up to a good 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:06.200 web yardage. You give yourself eighteen fifteen putters a prty. 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.920 You know, it's theory you should play all right. 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.160 Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's a it's an interesting 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.799 golf course. I think it's such a great tournament golf 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:20.760 course because you know, it's tremendously fair in the sense 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.799 of it's got a lot of width off the tee 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.000 and you know, you can play any shot off the 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.840 tee and the thing it does that, you know, I 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:33.080 think it does better than almost any other tournament golf courses. 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.719 The shot is out in front of you, and it says, 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.439 you know, hit this shot and if you pull it off, 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.279 you receive the greatest reward. You can make eagles, you know, 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.719 you can just really score, but if you don't really 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.560 it just kills you. If you if you try and 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.000 pull that shot off and you you miss it, you 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:53.080 know you're gonna make a double. 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.880 Yeah. No, there's definitely a lot of a lot of 0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.960 focus and commitment, you know, that's required on a lot 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:05.040 of those shots. And I'm sure, like you know, anyone 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.960 listening to this on my birthday's April ten, so it's 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.320 always right around the gotta and what I want to 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.200 do during that week is nothing to sit on the 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:18.160 couch and watch, you know, both friends try and compete. 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:23.160 So I'm excited to kind of see, you know, after 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.320 all those times. But then I'm sure quarterback so to speak, 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.000 you know, how how we can can it go and 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:33.480 deliver and focus over some of those shots. And I'm 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:35.839 sure that you know, it's easy for me to sit 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.719 here now and say it, but you know, I'm sure 0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.800 that when I played twelve in the event, it'll be 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.719 it'll be a little different than be sitting there and saying, oh, 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.040 it's just a smooth aida I a little green. So yeah, 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:54.160 we'll be a couple buddies and they're just like, yeah, 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:59.040 that's that's not exactly how it goes to Peo would know. 0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:03.480 I I you right, Yeah, I bet it's a lot 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.400 like what we were talking about with fifteen at Stonewall, 0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.000 where it's just very very very hard. 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.200 I mean you sit there and you're like, oh, it's 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.399 just an inn and of the front of the green, 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.319 it's like, well, you know, throw eastern side crowd boond 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.440 you that's that's judging every movie you make and then 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.000 can talk. So I'm sure the ones is swirling in 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.960 six different trips. I don't know. I'm just I guess 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.320 that's small targets, focused ones you can control. Trying to 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.360 give yourself a bunch of fifteen eighteen flitters. 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:35.120 Yeah, we got a bunch of Twitter questions around the masters, 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.480 so it would just kind of go through some of 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:42.680 these quick Here Andy Roderick wants to know, what does 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.759 your master's prep look like. I know you've hit on 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.040 kind of putting on some pounds and getting some. 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.400 More speed in the swing. What else are you planning 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:51.360 to really work on? 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.240 Well, no, secret that bag cutting is at an absolute 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:04.239 premium out there, So a lot of speed work and 0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.680 not just you know, like your ten fifteen twenty footers. 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.600 It's I I fend a plot a little bit from 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.759 around the greens. You know, I'm like just off. So 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.360 it'll be a lot of longer one you know, forty 0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.600 forty five fifty putters that I'd really like to Can 0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:21.399 they get some good working, you know, judging lives around 0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.759 the green and stuff like that. There's going to be 0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.719 times where I have to you know, probably pitch out 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:32.040 or play safe or you know, not hit my best shot, 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.160 or maybe on a part our plot. You know, right up, 0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.879 So I really want to get my web game shark, 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:42.240 you know, controlling it'spend controlling the trajectory, fitting specific yardages, 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:45.439 knowing the difference between what eighty three eighty five yards 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.040 fields like. I know that's not rapidly specific, but the 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.560 level that these guys are. You know, one of the 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.480 reasons that Dustin Johnson's had such a great year is 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.600 because he would go out. He would tell himself to 0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.960 register in the artages and he would look on trappings 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.160 as exactly as it gets, and you know, he was 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.000 kind of figure out what those things felt like. And 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.560 those are the kind of things that ties both on 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.560 tour and the theameter in college level kind of becomes 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:16.839 so elite at and if I can kind of lock 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:18.960 in on some of those numbers and play to my strength, 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:20.880 I'm not going to try and figure out how to 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.440 hit a control drawn thirteen because there's just no point. 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.400 You know, does it does it help? Could it give 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:28.879 me an extra ten or fifteen yards? 0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:29.160 Yeah? 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.759 Sure, but how many times can you hit that shot 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:35.680 under pressure versus gitting a five or four iron and 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.400 versus like a six or seven iron. It's just the 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.200 risk of war doesn't make a ton of sense. So 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.840 I'm going to try and really focus on the strength 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.920 that I already have, improving the things that need improvements 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.400 that are really just works, such as wedges and speed, 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.560 and then beyond that, one of the things that I 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:56.239 haven't really touched on is pretty couples. Listen to the 0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:58.520 California you know, when Phil gets healthy, listens to the 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.239 California Bollhoffler, who was up a couple of years ago, 0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:05.239 box home up. You know, can't wagh. There's guys who 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.920 are in the area that I can surround myself with 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.920 them beginnings, are comfortable with them and have the opportunity 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.279 to kind of pick their brain of what's important. Those 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.200 types of things are absolutely invaluable, and I'm convinced that 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.400 being comfortable around those guys is going to play a 0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:25.800 huge part in allowing yourself to move beyond what the 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.080 situation is and to focus on what you can control 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.279 and really give you the opportunity to really walk in 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:36.000 on yourself and to play the best golf that you can't. 0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:38.359 Yeah, I think that's a great point. 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.360 I think a comfort level and golf is so important 0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.560 because it, you know, it has such an impact on 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.200 you know, how you're thinking, how you're feeling, you know, 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.239 how you're swinging and that. I think that's a great 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.000 you know called just you know, surrounding yourself playing a 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:59.680 lot of rounds with with the world class players, so 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.040 they you you know, you feel like you belong and 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.960 you're not. There's no wow, you know shock factor. 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.200 Yeah, Like, I mean, I'm not going to sit here 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.719 and pretend but you know, I'm I'm as good as 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.600 still because it's just not true. He's got a trophy 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.439 case to prove it, and a couple of sports coats 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.440 to prove it so that, But am I capable of 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.120 going out and competing with those guys for four days? 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.200 If I'm sharp? I mean I feel like I can. 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.759 You know, everyone's everyone has stretches where they where they 0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.480 play great. And like I said, I'm not going to 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:34.640 sit here and pretend I'm as good as tour players 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.239 because I'm not like stats. It's true. You can look 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.440 at my world ranking and it's just not true. But 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.160 you know, as I mentioned before, the golf well doesn't 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:45.719 know who you are. And if you give yourself the 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:50.080 opportunity to put yourself out there and to play great 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.160 and to prepare the way that you feel comfortable doing. 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.960 Maybe you know, on Thursday on the range and you're 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.200 hitting balls next to it, you know Jason Day or 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:02.279 a Rory or Big or Tiger, you know, someone that 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.640 everyone in my generation has looked up to at the 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:08.120 time they first started playing. You know, if you feel 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:12.200 comfortable in a situation and you can focus on your routine, 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.640 that's what I really think will give you the best 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:15.879 opportunity to play great. 0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:23.320 Yeah, I agree, so Ed Lure Tracker, the you know, 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.840 wants to know if you're going to be doing a 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:28.360 gofund me campaign. 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:35.120 Nope, I think that one backfired. I'm Sammy, Yeah. 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:42.520 I h no, I won't be doing that. Yeah, I 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.440 love I'll altern my dad into the beuts on this one. 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.320 I love my dad, and my dad's going to be 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.160 on the bag for me for the three contests. This 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.359 is the only time in twenty five years that I've 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:54.879 ever held a Trump card over again. 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:03.480 I short answer is no, No, So your dad's doing 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:04.719 the Part three? 0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:07.160 Who you know? 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.640 Powell Arms is wondering what time he shows up to Caddy, 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.279 and I think, you know, if if you're not going 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.120 with Powell, who will be on the bag? 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.440 I'm gonna use Mike Caddy John Doherty, who have used 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.719 a good bit in the in the metropolitan area over 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.719 the course of the last couple of years. He's got 0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:31.160 even fifteen nine USGA events, And you know, it's obviously 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:32.919 a dream of mine to be able to go down 0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:37.040 there and to play. But you know, as a longtime guy, 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.880 he's he's a pretty seasoned you know, Caddie. You know 0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.040 it's also the dream of his and I think it'll 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.839 be really neat to kind of share the experience with him, 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.239 to go down there and see if we can, you know, 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.560 kind of do the less we can. And there's there's 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.280 no one else I even considered. 0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.759 M h Yeah. 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.920 I think having someamiliarity with your game and everything is 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:06.840 huge too. So you know, how how many you know, 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.759 you get to play down there as much, you know, 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.319 as as you can. How many trips do you plan 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.520 on making or hoping to make in the next few months. 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:22.239 Well, I'm gonna you know, I've got two on the 0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.399 books right now, maybe a good family friend who's who's 0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:29.680 down there, so it'll be one. But you know, I'm 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.279 gonna try and get down there as much as I 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.399 can without without stuff on on anyone's toes. I get 0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:40.759 a very sacred place, and I absolutely respect and and 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:44.960 respect your rules. So you know, the last thing I 0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.279 would ever want to do is overstand my welcome, which 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.239 I don't plan on doing. But I'm gonna try and 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.279 get down there a little bit. And you know, like 0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:55.480 I said, you know, we've all we've all fat on 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:59.400 the couch and watched all, you know, twenty two hours 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:04.919 of pre you know, turned in Postmasters coverage. So going 0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:07.200 down there essentially being in a museum of something that 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:12.160 we've all idolized for so long. You know, I'd like 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.360 to kind of get over the the hump of you know, 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.359 this is where field at that shot on thirteen, That's 0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.360 where Tiger chips on sixteen, and that's where probably hit 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:21.040 the you know, one shot on ten. And you know, 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:23.719 I'd like to go down there and focus on the 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:28.960 golf course and as I said, you know, focus on 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:31.600 where I want to hit it, on my game and 0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.440 what it takes to play great. But I'm sure I'll 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:35.840 get down there a little bit, you know, here in 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.120 the spring and the kind of gets closer to peopm. 0:49:39.719 --> 0:49:44.880 So last week you were in you were at the 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:49.320 Walker Cup practices and I would love to talk a 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:53.440 little bit about that. So the Walker Cup is in 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.719 twenty seventeen, and that's at the course you grew up 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:01.680 playing La Country Club. So you know, where does kind 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.359 of the Walker Cup rank on like bucket list things 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.920 to do? Say if you get the nod uh and 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:10.160 get one of the spots on the ten person team. 0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:16.840 Sure, well, you know, as I mentioned earlier, you got 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.239 to earn your way on. So to even be considered 0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:22.719 and to be in the discussion is it is a 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.440 very very high honor and dream in and of itself. 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:31.680 But I would rank it. I mean, is it possible 0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:35.120 to have two one a's in terms of well, I 0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:38.480 mean and be Augustine and you know, and having the 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:42.320 opportunity to represent your country for the Walker Cup. So 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:47.200 I I've had two goals for the last year, and 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.400 I'll continue up two goals for the next nine months. 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.400 And we've just we've just talked about them. It's to go. 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.200 I'll do Augustin to play great and to do the 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.600 best I can and to do everything I can, you know, 0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:03.080 on and off the course to try and have the 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:06.000 opportunity to remotely on that team to represent you know, 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.759 to dates and to represent you know, the U. S g. A, 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:14.560 and to to try and bring back the Walker back 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:15.440 to what it belongs. 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:21.000 Yeah, they got kind of drubbed the last uh we 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.760 could have got drubbed the last time out. So hopefully 0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:28.839 we can bring the cup back here with with an 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.560 up up close uh in person. You know, look at 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.359 all these college kids. I mean, it seems like every 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.320 year they're just getting better and better. What were some 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.839 guys who were some guys that just you know, really 0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.800 impressed you that we're invited to the practice. 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.080 Yeah, I think you just hit the nail on the head. 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:56.760 They're all so incredibly talented, and it's it's very humbling 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.880 and very eye opening to see their games but close 0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.279 and the fact that they constantly reminded me that this 0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:08.160 is offseason is even more scary. They're just they're all 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.320 super talented. I mean I could I could go and 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:12.160 talk to all of them or talk about each and 0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:16.360 every one of them, but I mean Mad and John 0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.600 john Hood are so efficient around the greens, like how 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:23.360 well Sean and Jimmy staying and Gavin I'll drive it. 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:28.440 I mean, IOK, IOK, just elite. You know legge players 0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.680 Doug Gammon and Joan Layer, are Xalatorius and Dalkey, how 0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:34.640 well they get it. How the way that you know, 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.680 like Colin and Hardy can have the feel of the 0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:40.000 tour player, and the way they compose and conduct themselves. 0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.200 I mean, you can just go go on and on, 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:44.560 you know that all these guys and I won't, I 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.120 won't touch on all of them, but I have the 0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:49.320 opportunity to play with all of them, and it's just 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.400 so impressive and more than any of that, they're just 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.400 great kids. I mean, they're there's so much fun to 0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.120 be around. They're great guys. That's it's a great group. 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.600 You know, a lot of a lot of personalities from 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.280 around the country and you know these guys from Texas 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:10.759 and Chicago and you know Florida Northern. It's just it's 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:14.040 a really special, cool group. And the way that that 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:18.040 Mad and Scott you know, and talk about the event 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.840 and the level of respect that importance the past walker 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:24.480 covers kind of coming out to support. It's just it's 0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:28.879 a really special thing and you can feel and really 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:33.200 get a sense of just how amazing, you know, the 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.200 opportunity to try and earn your way onto that team 0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.480 really is. So you know, hopefully I did okay out there, 0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:46.279 and obviously it's it's you know, there's a lot of 0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:48.400 time between now and when the selection is made. But 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.480 as I mentioned, you know, I uh, I'm gonna do 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.840 everything in my power that I can to have the 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.120 opportunity to represent the club and the other players in 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.440 the U s g A and you know, can ultimately 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:05.399 be at Yeah, it makes me, it makes me come 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.520 a step back. It's it's a it's a special thing. 0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:11.319 And night I have nothing but respect for anyone that's 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:14.040 ever represented the US on one of those teams. 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.960 So we we got a request from one of your 0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:26.680 fellow Walker Cup hopefuls, Dylan Meyer, wants us to have 0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:32.680 you do You're two hours later and rock Bottom impersonations 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:34.640 from SpongeBob. 0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:44.759 Two alas, we welcome Dylan. Dylan and I figured out 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.239 within about a matter of fifteen minutes that we have 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:51.920 the exact same sense of humor, and we played alternate 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:56.320 shot together and since I think the entire dis I 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.600 just making fun of each other, you know, we would 0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:03.960 just sit there and be know she now is at. 0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:08.200 It's uh, he seems like a great kid. 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:14.120 Yeah, that and that, and then then Hardy's you know, 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.080 I'm a huge fan of the boys. Over being in 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.359 New York for two a half years, you know, your 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.480 your sarcasm changes a little bit and you understand just 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:25.480 how big of a deal you know, Pat football is 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.920 in hockey and all that, and Hardy and I, you know, 0:55:29.000 --> 0:55:32.600 a big book, big end of the blog Barstool Sports, 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.480 and they came out with a funny little video you 0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:41.359 know of Canadian tourism or whatever. We played each other 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.040 and I mean, we're high fiving and slapping each other 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:47.640 on the backs and all good shot the brdle get 0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:48.960 yourself the bull today. 0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.200 That that video is great. 0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:57.360 Well look what you got on underneath your jacket more jeans? 0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:04.000 Sorry, yeah, you might have a future. And uh like 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.799 that Frank Callendo guy and some with some impersonation. 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:11.920 I will never touch Frank. I could watch those videos 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:14.479 time and time again. That guy is such a talent. 0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:19.120 It's unbelievable. No, we just got it's everyone. I put 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.719 it inside jokes and that's anyways we got to kick 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:23.839 out of it. Was it was cool. 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.960 I'll put a video of the the Gordo video in 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:32.120 there for everybody in the in the podcast link, so 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.040 anybody that hasn't seen it can see it. It's uh, 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:41.400 it's pretty funny and pretty ship. Yeah, sportsmanship is the 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:49.400 key theme. So so if you were gonna bet the 0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:54.600 house on one of the guys from the practices winning 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:56.440 a major, who would it be? 0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:58.839 You know, you you only get to pick one guy, 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:02.680 and you know, to win a major, who is it? 0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:13.000 M M, I don't know. 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:15.000 Man, I'm gonna give you such a non answer with 0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:20.400 this one. I mean, I mean, obviously MAVs, you know, 0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:23.920 number one world ranking is is obviously pretty strong. But 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:27.400 I just like I look back to playing with each 0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.520 one of those guys, and all of them just brings 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:34.280 something different to it. And like I said, if that's 0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:37.320 them an off season when they're quote unquote not sharp, 0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:40.480 oh boy, we're in a world of hurt. You know, 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:44.480 as we look forward to the summer. I don't know. 0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:51.160 I mean, I guess just based off his ranking, I 0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.600 honestly can't even answer that because I still follow them 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:58.560 in college and I mean, any given a week, one 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:03.840 of those guys, they're all so good. You know, we've 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:06.400 we've kind of talked about it before, and it's follow 0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:08.040 some of the stuff that you and the guys over 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.400 no laying up to, and I mean, it's it's amazing 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:14.120 how guys can break onto the scene and get confidence 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:19.240 in themselves and start playing great. So I mean, I 0:58:19.320 --> 0:58:22.160 can tell you if not scatter I because we're fromit 0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.400 ams and we're pretty comfortable where we're at, but that 0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:27.920 all those guys are so talented and it'll be super 0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.520 fun just to kind of watch the progression as they 0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:31.000 get older. 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:37.280 So I wanted to talk a little bit about golf 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:41.960 courses and want to be mindful of your time here. 0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:46.360 So you know, obviously l a CC has got a 0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:48.880 new course. Not a lot of people have seen it. 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.720 I think it's only open to member play. Now, tell 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.400 audience a little bit about that South course. 0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:55.040 How do you like it? 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.640 Oh, it's awesome. I've only played it a couple of times, 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:03.200 but a piece of land it's on between Woolsure and 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:07.360 Santa Monica Boulevard is it's pretty spectacular, don't ants kind 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.680 live in and changed around a few things and you know, 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:14.720 made some different adjustments to certain holes in the layout. 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.560 He took out a ton of trees and it has 0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:20.280 a really similar feel to the North course, but it's 0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:26.760 much more adjusted towards member play. It's just really fun 0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:30.120 and it's got some great vistas, you know, that kind 0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:35.520 of wools Santa Monica corridor. The dreams aren't nearly as 0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:37.800 severe as the North. That doesn't have near the length 0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:41.360 of the North. But you know, if I had a chance, 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.200 you know, to play all the courses in LA and 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:48.000 I could sneak out there. Anyone I've ever taken out 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:50.560 to go check it out. I mean it took Scott 0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:54.880 out there, you know, from before the practice session started. 0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.120 He loved it, and he kind of said that, He's like, 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:00.520 why you ad you ever leave? This is is amazing. 1:00:00.680 --> 1:00:03.760 So I've got nothing but the great reviews on the 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:08.560 South and I think it's a really sneaky, really solid course. 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:16.080 So having now lived in uh, New York and you 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:19.120 know you also have lived in l A, those are 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.280 two of the greatest, you know, golf cities in America. 1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:26.800 What do you think is the best city of golf. 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:31.080 It's not even close. It's a week including Long Island. 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:37.120 I always say our hour within metro Center, so we. 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:39.680 Throw it within an hour and a half. It's not 1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:43.120 even close within it within an hour. I still think 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:44.360 it's really hard to beat New York. 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:47.400 Yeah, I think now that. 1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:53.320 Now, Now that being said, Chicago is is a very 1:00:53.640 --> 1:01:04.160 close second. I would say Atlanta's got some good ones. 1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:05.400 I'd have to think about this. 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.600 But I think Philly, Yeah. 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:12.360 The discussion, for sure. Boston's in the discussion. For sure. 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:15.320 There's a lot of ones in Boston you don't really 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:18.240 think about, to be honest, but I think it's New 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:20.920 York and I don't really even think it's negotiable. 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:25.440 Yeah, it's if you if you include all of Long Island. 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:29.240 It's it's a it's game over. I think if it's 1:01:29.680 --> 1:01:31.920 if it's an hour there, there can be discussion. But 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:37.760 you know that that Long Island UH list is is unbelievable. 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.680 So what are your I'll throw you a sneaky one 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:44.680 that you don't think of of the world if you 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:47.160 take out you know, Great Britain and Ireland. Obviously, there's 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:49.920 so many that are so close over there, but I 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:51.800 would throw Sydney or Melbourne in there. 1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:57.320 Oh yeah, you get the sand Belt courses. Yeah, you 1:01:57.440 --> 1:02:01.560 got Melbourne. That Kingston Heath place that had the World 1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:03.959 Cup looks absolutely spectacular. 1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:08.240 Yeah. I just go over there, and I mean I 1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:13.080 just I've never heard anything but just overwhelmingly raising her views. 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:14.280 Mm hmmm. 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:14.800 Yeah. 1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:18.400 One of my one of my one of our subscribers 1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:21.080 to the newsletter wrote up he went on an eight 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:21.960 day trip there. 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:23.520 I think he played ten courses. 1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:25.120 He did a big write up that we're going to 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:28.240 put up later this week on UH on just his 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:32.600 experience and the pictures he shared just looks so spectacular. 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:34.920 It's definitely high on my bucket list. 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:35.840 Have you been over there? 1:02:37.200 --> 1:02:43.480 I haven't. I I haven't I'd love to go to 1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:46.600 my shortlist of things. I'm a big surfer. I'd loved it, 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:50.240 stop and Fiji and check out you know, some of 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:53.360 the breaks you're going over there. But I can pretty 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:55.360 confidently tell you it's not gonna happen in the next 1:02:55.480 --> 1:02:58.040 nine months. But as I look forward, I loved it. 1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:00.200 I loved it. You know, make that a real you 1:03:00.240 --> 1:03:01.080 want to be really cool. 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:04.160 Well, the beauty of Australia is it's summer when it's 1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:08.240 winter here. So you know, maybe, uh, maybe next year 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.600 this time it would be a good good time to go. 1:03:12.440 --> 1:03:15.560 Absolutely, we'll see if we can see if we get 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:17.520 something on the books to be a kick to get 1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:18.440 down there and check it out. 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:21.320 But yeah, so. 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:26.480 Let's just do some real quick rapid fire and then 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:29.080 uh and then I'll let you go. You know, you've 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:32.480 been been on for an hour now, so we'll do 1:03:32.640 --> 1:03:36.240 some rapid fire questions and uh and get you out 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:36.520 of here. 1:03:38.320 --> 1:03:43.240 So who is your favorite player on tour? To watch. 1:03:46.400 --> 1:03:51.040 Sugar when he's playing, well, I mean shoot the whole 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:54.080 golf roll. When he was down at Albany, I was 1:03:54.160 --> 1:03:57.520 involved four or five different group text of you know 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:00.600 what was going on I mean everyone was watching. If 1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:02.920 you were working that there's day Farne, you wing yourself, 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:04.920 because you were if you're an avocult and we all 1:04:05.000 --> 1:04:06.600 know you were streaming it at the office on some 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:07.280 kind of device. 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.120 Yea. But yeah, But. 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:15.440 I've always really enjoyed watching watching Adam Scott. I love 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:17.960 his demeanor out there. I love the way he gets it. Obviously, 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:23.720 love his swing. You know, if you want to include 1:04:23.760 --> 1:04:25.160 by you that I always love to watch, you know, 1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:28.120 kind of Jordan and Justin and send it. You know 1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:31.640 it's gonna watch Smiley, but I'll play it. It's a 1:04:31.680 --> 1:04:34.240 lot of fun to watch guys who I kind of 1:04:34.600 --> 1:04:37.960 grew up with as they're making their way kind of 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:40.920 through the tours, you know, whether it's mini tours of 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:43.240 the way when they received sponsors, exemptions, they're going to 1:04:43.280 --> 1:04:46.280 see how they do out there and the big guys 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:48.680 and now they handled themselves and it was really cool 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:50.600 to watch, like Michael Johnson last year, and you know 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:53.800 how well he played, you know, I think he took 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:56.640 like T three or T four, and but but you know, 1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:58.680 events like that or like a Bobby Wyant. He made 1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:01.560 a noise at some point. But as far as favorite players. Go, 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:05.640 I'm always gonna be a Tiger guy, but I love 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:07.520 that of Scott's game. He needs to be fun to watch. 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:10.400 Yeah, it's uh Scott is. 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:13.800 I mean, man, if that guy made a couple more putts, 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:15.680 he'd have so many wins. 1:05:17.000 --> 1:05:17.560 It's crazy. 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:21.120 Finish in Florida earlier this year when he was on it, 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:23.400 you know, I mean, the guy's a Scott in the 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:24.120 total state. 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:28.600 Yeah, it's so. You've been been to Midam for a year. 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:32.760 What's your favorite midam tournament outside the US Midam? 1:05:34.120 --> 1:05:38.320 Sure, Yeah, you beat me to that one. I had 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:40.840 a chance to playing the George Thomas earlier this year 1:05:40.960 --> 1:05:42.960 at Eli Country Club and play with a few of 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:47.520 the guys Chris Minicholson, Mike McCloy, Barbee and just the 1:05:47.640 --> 1:05:50.520 camaraderie of the whole. You know, I guess you could 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:53.680 take tour scene which is really special and it's a 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:56.120 lot of guys with up kind of growing up looking 1:05:56.240 --> 1:06:00.280 up to, and it's a really unique opportunity to uh 1:06:00.680 --> 1:06:02.040 to kind of get to know some of those guys 1:06:02.080 --> 1:06:04.800 and pick their brains and how they really balance, you know, 1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:08.760 playing at a high ameter level, but also you know, 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:12.360 their their time professionally, and it's a really kind of unique, 1:06:12.600 --> 1:06:15.960 you know tour and I just feel just feel very 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:19.720 very you know, blasting and kind of its honored to be, 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:22.440 you know, a younger guy on that scene and to 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:25.080 try and live up to the standard that they've set 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:28.360 before me. Yeah, forget the fact that they're all just 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.680 great cats, they're just fun to be around. 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:35.920 Yeah, it's it's good, good time. Midam golf is it's fun. 1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:39.480 It's I think the vibe of of Midam tournaments as 1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:42.000 good as I guess. You know, everybody wants, everybody wants 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:45.959 to play well, everybody's really competitive, but after the round, 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:48.960 everybody's laid back, you know, just there to have a 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:50.000 good time and hang out. 1:06:51.520 --> 1:06:54.680 Oh no doubt. I mean I swear having having a 1:06:54.760 --> 1:06:56.360 beer or two, you know with some of the guys. 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.680 You know, after it's all sitting down with the sun 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:01.160 goes down, this stories that kind of come out and 1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:04.320 you know, hearing about them and their families or where 1:07:04.320 --> 1:07:07.280 they're from and talking like well, it's it's a tific 1:07:07.400 --> 1:07:08.520 my group. It's super fun. 1:07:09.200 --> 1:07:15.080 So outside of of Harvey, who we've talked about which 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:20.680 which Midham has the most game, Like who who kind 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:23.720 of was like you. You may may have heard of him, 1:07:23.760 --> 1:07:25.959 but you're like, wow, this guy can really play. 1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:33.120 I'm gonna give you a few guys, your boyd or 1:07:33.360 --> 1:07:36.960 you know, our good friend to Mitchell carries himself like 1:07:37.040 --> 1:07:39.720 a through player and he's just just a great athlete. 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:42.960 And I think as I get older, from a physical standpoint, 1:07:43.000 --> 1:07:47.400 I'd love to, you know, kind of be as as 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:49.000 physically as haptics as he is. 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:53.320 He hits his driver so well, he hits a driver 1:07:53.800 --> 1:07:54.280 so well. 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:58.880 He just looks like a tour pro, you know him 1:07:58.880 --> 1:08:00.760 and him and Brad Wilder, Like you look at those 1:08:00.800 --> 1:08:03.480 guys on the range and you're just like you definitely 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:08.840 played the cash cans. So those two guys for sure. 1:08:10.600 --> 1:08:13.720 I'll put Mike McCloy's short game up against the majority 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:17.519 of the PGA tour. It fascinates me how well he 1:08:18.560 --> 1:08:21.400 he ships in his bunker play and how well he 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:27.880 pitches it. I mean, Mike, I have so much respect 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:29.640 for Mike. I mean, he missed playing. He was in 1:08:29.720 --> 1:08:31.320 a playoffs to go to the US Open this year 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:33.680 for an altern shot which ended up getting in. But 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:37.439 I mean he played in the Senior Open this year. 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:39.360 But he nearly played in the US Open. It's just 1:08:40.000 --> 1:08:44.240 it's so much game and it's just it's super fun 1:08:44.280 --> 1:08:47.280 to watch a guy that I've gotten pretty close to 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:52.439 on the East Coast being betting back there in the 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:54.800 city is an old if. He's an older guy named 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:58.559 George Sanranger. And George works so hard on this game. 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:04.320 Is he has a great just great tempo, a great rhythm. 1:09:05.040 --> 1:09:07.960 It's a great plutter. But I've always been ask him, like, George, 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:13.040 how how are you competitive? For so long? He is 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:15.320 response about missine beat was like you get it up 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:18.680 and down from the garbage camp. He just ships and 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:21.160 pitches it so well. And whenever I see him, I 1:09:21.160 --> 1:09:22.800 always try and kind of pick his brain. You know, 1:09:22.800 --> 1:09:26.040 a lot different shots around the greens, and it's just 1:09:26.200 --> 1:09:27.880 just fun to be around and like to see how 1:09:27.920 --> 1:09:29.560 some of these guys get it in the hole. And 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.559 I'm trying to think Gene Elliott uses a long clutter 1:09:34.640 --> 1:09:37.640 and he's a long cutter, so I you know, like 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:40.120 to I mean jeans just best in every way. He's 1:09:40.200 --> 1:09:43.320 like so much fun to be around. But yeah, it's 1:09:43.400 --> 1:09:46.439 it's it's a great group. But I would definitely those 1:09:46.439 --> 1:09:48.000 are kind of the first guys to come to mind 1:09:48.080 --> 1:09:51.439 and in some of the some of the ways that 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:55.040 their games are kind of geared towards for sure. 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:59.720 Yeah, I feel like Mike McCoy would be just the 1:09:59.800 --> 1:10:02.400 word guy to see in match play just be like, 1:10:02.560 --> 1:10:05.680 oh God, just grind it, grind it out. 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:09.679 We played together at the Thomas, and I'll never forget 1:10:09.720 --> 1:10:12.040 there was beside the fact to put every bunker shot 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:15.320 to like and I was just like, wow, amazing. But 1:10:16.560 --> 1:10:18.320 he was behind the green on one. I don't ever 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:21.400 played la to a that left pin me and the 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:25.000 shots impossible. You need to just have the ball, fight 1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:26.840 that base and pick up as much as you can. 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:29.120 And he hit this little ship shot where he just 1:10:29.160 --> 1:10:31.680 took the legs from under the ball and this thing 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.200 bounce once and stop on a dime, and then it 1:10:34.400 --> 1:10:36.760 rolled the next six feet like it literally stopped. The 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:39.280 ball stops because the slip was supposed to be rolled 1:10:39.280 --> 1:10:41.639 another six feet to it. But and I just kind 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:43.840 of shook my head and I'm just like, oh my gosh, 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:48.080 that's I don't have that shot. That's so impressive. 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:52.680 Yeah, that's uh, that's a guy I played with at 1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:55.040 the mid aam He was. He was hitting it everywhere, 1:10:55.840 --> 1:10:57.800 and like we get off it and he was. He 1:10:57.960 --> 1:11:00.760 hit some of the like probably like four or five 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:04.840 of the most incredible flap shots I've ever seen, like 1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:11.640 Darren Overson who's from Utah, and you could tell he 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:12.679 was fighting a swing. 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:16.120 But like he put he didn't he didn't make match play. 1:11:16.240 --> 1:11:18.920 But like you know, if I if you put me 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:21.200 where his ball was, I would have probably shot ninety 1:11:21.320 --> 1:11:24.519 ball days. And this guy just was getting up and 1:11:24.600 --> 1:11:28.920 down from everywhere. I mean, it's it's incredible how some 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:30.800 of these guys get it done. And it it just 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:33.839 his short game saves you so many shots. 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:36.560 You know, you can hit it. You can hit it 1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:37.479 pretty much everywhere. 1:11:38.760 --> 1:11:42.160 So if you had to play one course every day 1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:45.040 for the rest of your life, what course would it be? 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:52.760 M I guess his tough to be Cyprus is really fun. 1:11:53.920 --> 1:11:56.760 I love going out there. What a neat spot. I 1:11:56.840 --> 1:12:01.360 played National Ball blanks out on Long Island. It's got 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:05.040 such a unique kind of cool vibe to it. It's 1:12:05.120 --> 1:12:07.320 just it's really fun. It's a great match play course 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:10.160 also a great stroke play course, and you've got to 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:13.760 go out and post a number the vistas and the 1:12:13.880 --> 1:12:19.360 finishing holes are are absolutely amazing, you know, having a 1:12:19.720 --> 1:12:22.320 having a south had on the porch, as as anyone 1:12:22.400 --> 1:12:25.120 that's settlement out there, you know, as has done. I mean, 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:27.840 as the sun goes down over there, you know, come 1:12:27.920 --> 1:12:31.200 over the sound, you gotta take a step back and 1:12:31.360 --> 1:12:34.439 just realize how how lucky you are to be there. 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:37.960 But one that one that I guess is kind off 1:12:38.000 --> 1:12:40.360 the beaten pat that I'll throw you is this place 1:12:40.520 --> 1:12:44.080 up in Montana called Rock Creek. It's it's a really 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:47.920 really neat spot and it's just a really fun golf course. 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:50.640 It's not super demanding off the tee, but especially you 1:12:50.680 --> 1:12:53.519 can make a bunch of birdies, but there also has 1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:55.400 plenty of teeth and plenty of length things. It's twenty 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.920 tea boxes you can play for or play from. Just 1:12:58.000 --> 1:13:02.519 a really just a fun golf course and a really 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:04.599 great kind of finishing stretch. 1:13:05.360 --> 1:13:10.880 That's a that's a good little sleeper there. National National 1:13:10.960 --> 1:13:13.280 Golf Links is like number one on my bucket list. 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:16.519 I'm a huge seth rain er CB McDonald fan. So 1:13:16.960 --> 1:13:18.080 it's kind of like the Mecca. 1:13:19.560 --> 1:13:23.080 It's it's a special place and I've got the opportunity 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:25.280 to play out there a couple of times, and it's 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:27.800 just when you get there, and you will, it's just 1:13:27.920 --> 1:13:31.920 a just a really neat, cool golf course, just a 1:13:31.960 --> 1:13:32.679 special place. 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.000 So I think you know, I want to get you 1:13:38.120 --> 1:13:41.160 out of here. We've been talking for an hour fifteen. 1:13:41.439 --> 1:13:46.479 I really appreciate the time, and we'll look forward to 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:49.920 kind of tracking your progress as we get closer to 1:13:50.000 --> 1:13:50.640 the Masters. 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:55.599 And thanks so much for coming on. Anybody that doesn't 1:13:55.640 --> 1:14:00.960 follow Stewart on Twitter and Instagram, give a follow. 1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:03.599 I know, I know we'll probably be seeing something from 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:06.679 you when you get your get the best Christmas gift 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:07.639 you're going to get this year. 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:11.679 Yeah, I love my mom with goad that that one's 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:12.639 awfully tough to beat. 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:18.040 So thanks, thanks so much for coming on. I really 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:19.080 appreciate the time. 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:22.519 Oh well, thank you very much for having me. And 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.200 you know I look forward to seeing you down the 1:14:25.280 --> 1:14:29.639 road and can't wait to follow from your content as 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:31.519 it goes on. So thank you very very much. 1:14:31.960 --> 1:14:33.840 Hey, I have a good one and I have a 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:34.920 great holiday season. 1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:38.479 La