WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: No Más

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>No Cowboys This he's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas Cowboys World Horse at the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Touchdown six, Second's got ten six today touchdown and now

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<v Speaker 3>your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seven twenty on Monday Night Football, the Cowboys fall

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<v Speaker 2>to the Cincinnati Bengals and things just continue to snowball

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<v Speaker 2>in this season of horrors for the Cowboys. Five and

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<v Speaker 2>eight is now the record. But really it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>about the record as much as it is about everything

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<v Speaker 2>else that happened on Monday Night Football, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>dive into it here on Talking Cowboys, presented by Black

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<v Speaker 2>Rifle Coffee Company, Live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>in the SWBC podcast Studio alongside Patrick No C Walker,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Rodriguez, Josh by the way, great job hosting last week.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend cooked. I don't want to be around anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh don't say that. Turn that front upside down. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta go, you gotta go. I'll see you later. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was good seeing you again. It's funny, like we

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<v Speaker 2>joke about it, but that's kind of what the fan

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<v Speaker 2>base feels like right now. A lot of time, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're I know the so it's good to be

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<v Speaker 2>with you. The seven previous losses, there was always some

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<v Speaker 2>sense of frustration, there was some sense of anger, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody deals with a loss differently, so I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 2>are some Cowboys fans that are dealing with it in

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<v Speaker 2>a similar way for loss number eight as they did

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<v Speaker 2>for the first seven losses. And I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell anybody how to fan or how to feel whenever

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<v Speaker 2>it comes first loss. However, the general sense that I

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<v Speaker 2>have around what happened on Monday Night Football, it's everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>just bummed. The Cowboys nation is just dejected, and the

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<v Speaker 2>air whatever was left in the balloon, the era has

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<v Speaker 2>now left the balloon and it just feels like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how it ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not that there ever was a party happening in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, but there was a little bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a chance for a party.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a little bit of fun over that

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<v Speaker 1>four day span.

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<v Speaker 2>Positive positivity, Yeah, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>In how you beat the Commanders in Washington, and how

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<v Speaker 1>wild and crazy that game was. And then you circle

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<v Speaker 1>back four days later and you finally snap the losing

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<v Speaker 1>streak at home against you know, and then it was

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants on Thanksgiving with everybody watching, and you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy your turkey and the fixings and all that good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and nobody. I'm not gonna say nobody. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to generalize. Yeah, but understood that while we were

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying that, you weren't going to make the playoffs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you were still enjoying it because the team was

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<v Speaker 1>less than it was not great, but you were enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>it because the team was showing fight. The coaches hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>lost the locker room, and they still haven't lost the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room. But then when you look at yesterday's game

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<v Speaker 1>and against Cincinnati, the defense again stepped up. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>last week about where we ranking this defense as far

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<v Speaker 1>as are they good yet are they above average? And

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<v Speaker 1>we said they're more than They're more than solid. They're

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<v Speaker 1>piecing some things together for the most part. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you hold Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow and that

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<v Speaker 1>offense to only twenty points going into the final two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the game, and it's a tie ball game,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to feel good about it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>what happened immediately thereafter, it was quite literally the balloon

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<v Speaker 1>popping and you could hear all the air gets sucked

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<v Speaker 1>out of the stadium, could hear in the press box,

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<v Speaker 1>you could hear the air get sucked out of the

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<v Speaker 1>press box. So as soon as Nick Vigil blocked that punt,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about emotional whiplash. Everybody, including those in the

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<v Speaker 1>press box, they're like, holy crep. And before you could

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<v Speaker 1>finish that statement, everybody was turned to yell and don't

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<v Speaker 1>touch the ball, don't stay away from the ball. And

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<v Speaker 1>once he touched that ball and muffed it and they

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<v Speaker 1>recovered it, that's that, Yeah, turned lights out everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think Nick Eatman said this in the press box.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like everybody knew in their heart, like you could

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<v Speaker 4>just hear her when like, stay away from the ball,

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<v Speaker 4>stay away.

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<v Speaker 5>From the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as the pump was blocked, everybody except for

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<v Speaker 4>the one person that.

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<v Speaker 1>Needs to for the one person.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, And that's tough for Ao.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, he was activated just before the game, and

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<v Speaker 4>you look at the locker room, you know, like him

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<v Speaker 4>walking to the locker room with a towel over his head,

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<v Speaker 4>just absolutely bummed because he knows that he just lost

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<v Speaker 4>this game for the city of Dallas, for every Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>Cowboy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Right then they go to the media.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, you know, it's like, all right, well, we've

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<v Speaker 4>got to talk to him, right yeah, But C. J.

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<v Speaker 4>Goodwin does what a leader does, and he stepped in

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<v Speaker 4>for him and he said, well, you know, I understand

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<v Speaker 4>it's your job to ask him about this performance, ask

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<v Speaker 4>him about the play, but it's also my job to

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<v Speaker 4>lead the special teams and protect him basically from the

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<v Speaker 4>bombardment of of inquiries that you're going to have for

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a player that was just trying to do

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<v Speaker 4>the right thing and you know that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And what sucks about it is, well, even more so

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<v Speaker 1>that play is it's not the only reason the Cowboys lost,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is sure the defining moment.

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<v Speaker 2>He blocked the punt that put them in.

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<v Speaker 1>Of not only that game, but that will go down

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<v Speaker 1>as a microcosm of how the season has gone for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>Has there been so many of those plays though, But.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's going to go and I hate this for Ao,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's going to go down in infamy. That that's

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<v Speaker 1>up there with leon Lett, Terrence Williams not running out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds at least fair you will.

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<v Speaker 2>And that season was a little bit more high intensity,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the leon Lette situation, and Nate Newton talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it in post game. He said, leon Let hit

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<v Speaker 2>in the X X ray room after the game and

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<v Speaker 2>you had to pry them out of there, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the same kind of feeling from Ammonio will Warria. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's not get a twist. I mean, the Cowboys were

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<v Speaker 2>at five and seven. It goes back to what Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>was saying a moment ago. Cowboys were at five and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to win out to give yourself a shot

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<v Speaker 2>to even get into the postseason. Still have a minus

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<v Speaker 2>one percent chance to get there. Still, if you went

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<v Speaker 2>out and there's no room for error, zero room, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't lose again. So the the I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the same level, but they're going to be compared

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<v Speaker 2>because it was a special teams blunder on a similar

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<v Speaker 2>play that could have won the football game but instead

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<v Speaker 2>of lost the football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's it's a will be compared. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a football like you play that that cost the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys a game. So, whether it be Leon or like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, rather it be more recently Naseean Wright or

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<v Speaker 1>a little less recently Terrence Williams. Although that was an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive play. But for those of you who remember that game,

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<v Speaker 1>Dez Bryant is literally screaming and pointing at get out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds. Get out of bounds because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any timeouts. He didn't catch the ball goes out because

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to be a hero. He was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get a few more yards, and that few more

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<v Speaker 1>yards cost the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And that goes underguard this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>The AO was trying to be the hero, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys didn't need a hero, and in that moment, they

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<v Speaker 1>just needed you to get out of the way. And

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Vigil was already the hero on that p Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Vigil was the hero. So and there's just a

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<v Speaker 1>reason that that kind of play the ball is called poison.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get away from the poison, right, just leave

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<v Speaker 1>it be because and I know some people are like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a stupid rule. Well, whether it's you believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>a stupid rule or not, it's the rule. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>coached into the players, and this is a seven year

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<v Speaker 1>veteran and he's playing special teams. And then the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that crossed my mind was, Okay, well does Tyres

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<v Speaker 1>Weed touch that ball?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because Tyris we a good special teams guy. He was

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<v Speaker 1>made inactive yesterday, AO was up for depth things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But those are all things that can be second guests.

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<v Speaker 1>But what should not be second guests is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a seven year player who's being coached

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<v Speaker 1>up by arguably the best special teams coordinator in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and before that play happens, before you run onto the field,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to understand and let your coaching overrun your

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<v Speaker 1>instinct and know that, hey, if this ball is blocked,

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<v Speaker 1>no one else needs to touch it, including myself. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's more than tough. It is absolutely devastating. And then

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<v Speaker 1>what also sucks the remainder of whatever molecule of oxygen

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<v Speaker 1>was remaining in the room is the demarveion overshown. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so not only do you lose this game in the

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<v Speaker 1>fashion in which you lose this game, but you lose

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<v Speaker 1>a Pro Bowl caliber, all Pro caliber talent for not

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<v Speaker 1>just the rest of this season, as Jerry Jones told

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five three, the fan to Marion Overshown will

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<v Speaker 1>require surgery to repair the damage in his right knee.

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<v Speaker 1>His left knee is what was repaired his rookie season

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of his rookie season, but given the timing of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and although tests are still being run to get his cardinosis,

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<v Speaker 1>it's safe to say it. And I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong here, but it's safe to say that we

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<v Speaker 1>may not see to Marion Overshown until twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>That hurts no or the word fits it, but devastating, gutting,

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking pain. Bad things do happen to good people, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is an example of that. And all we can

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<v Speaker 1>say is prayers and positive energy to the Marion Overshown.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone can overcome it, he absolutely is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who can overcome it. But you just in a season

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<v Speaker 1>that we said this a few weeks ago, they're seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>just when you think you hit rock bottom, yep, a

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<v Speaker 1>new rock bottom appears, and here we are at a

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<v Speaker 1>new rock bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one was unfortunate because there's nothing you can

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<v Speaker 2>do about. I mean, he's playing hard, he's gonna he

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<v Speaker 2>was he always won the player.

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<v Speaker 1>Went into his leg and I saw someone on Twitter said, old,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should have the turf versus grass conversation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you should watch the game because this. While that's

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<v Speaker 1>a valid conversation in some aspects, that's not what happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the middle of a play and another

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<v Speaker 1>guy just got thrown into his list football. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a football of the injury.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing about Demarvi and overshown is there's two ways,

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<v Speaker 2>two paths that can happen now with his career. Either

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<v Speaker 2>because it was his right knee that got hurt last night,

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<v Speaker 2>it was his left knee previously that was hurt in

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<v Speaker 2>the preseason last year, last year, going into twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>so one of two things. Either one, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back, continue to play at a high level, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to overcome this adversity and it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the best resilient stories on the Cowboys roster,

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<v Speaker 2>franchise history, whatever, because he's come back from two severe

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<v Speaker 2>knee injuries to the point where he's playing at a

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<v Speaker 2>very high level. So boom, there's one road. The other

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<v Speaker 2>road is a realistic chance as well. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to count out to Marvin Overshown, but he would become

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest what ifs in Cowboys history. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, it's just even saying those words maybe

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<v Speaker 2>sick makes me sick. It absolutely does, because he's been

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, going into the preseason last year, he showed

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<v Speaker 2>all that fire, all that that intensity, all that aggressiveness,

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<v Speaker 2>got hurt and then it's like, Okay, okay, people have

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<v Speaker 2>come back from worse. We're gonna make this work. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get through rehab, get back on the field

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty twenty four. Sure enough, he did. Was playing

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<v Speaker 2>at a significantly high level. I don't know about All

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<v Speaker 2>Pro this year, but he was definitely in the Pro

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl in the conversation, and then the All Pro conversation

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<v Speaker 2>in the future was certainly there. Now you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>wait maybe not one but two full seasons to really

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<v Speaker 2>or not full seasons, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You get what I mean, more than one and a

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<v Speaker 1>half calendar years is basically what it would amount to.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you got to wait for that significant on

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<v Speaker 2>the other knee to rehab and get back to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Parson said it last night, and I couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 2>You would never wish that upon anybody. Nonetheless, somebody like

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<v Speaker 2>Demo who people love being around, love playing with, love

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<v Speaker 2>watching play.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, Marvin Overshown said on his ex account,

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't want this for anyone else, one of God's toughest

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<v Speaker 4>told soldiers, keep me in your prayers and regardless of

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<v Speaker 4>what you believe. I think just the pain kind of

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<v Speaker 4>comes through on that comment.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was just talking about the rehab back from

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<v Speaker 2>last year in the locker room on Wednesday. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to know exactly how much de

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<v Speaker 1>Marvion Overshown already means to this team, in this organization,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Michael Parsons postgame interview yesterday. Michael Parsons

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<v Speaker 1>was choked up, literally wiping tears away from his face,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about, you know what Demarvia the road Demarveon has

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of him. After the road he's already taken to

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<v Speaker 1>get to this point with the devastating twenty cl suffered

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<v Speaker 1>in preseason ahead of his rookie season. So if there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything positive to be taken away from it, again, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen evidence that the Marvion Overshown can come back from

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<v Speaker 1>from a tragic knee injury. And the other silver lining,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want to call it, is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the same knee as it was last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we talk about like John Stevens Junior, you're

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<v Speaker 1>concerned because he retore that acl which weakens it that

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<v Speaker 1>much more. So we're worried about what he looks like

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<v Speaker 1>when he gets back. But de Marveon it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of go have the surgery and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>the extent of it is. But I do get the

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<v Speaker 1>the implication that it is more than just a torn

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<v Speaker 1>a cl So.

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<v Speaker 2>You see these injuries happen all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>You see this like you're saying, Coyle, it couldn't happen

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<v Speaker 4>to a better person, And I don't know, at least

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<v Speaker 4>whenever you see these injuries happen, it's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, well, you know that sucks. See him next year, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this one is gonna hurt for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And not just.

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<v Speaker 4>Selfishly, I'm not just speaking for myself, but if you're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about the people that support this team and the defense,

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<v Speaker 4>the players on this defense, where you see Demarvin Overshown

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<v Speaker 4>being the heart of it, he is the energy. He

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<v Speaker 4>is the young buck that has come up to be

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, a star, a star in the making,

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<v Speaker 4>right playmaker just all over the field. To see that

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<v Speaker 4>happen to him is really devastating, and just like it

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<v Speaker 4>really does feel like, what did we do wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is the season is claiming souls?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even going to what did we do wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to my Twitter if you want the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>joke about that. I'm not going to make it here.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it because I don't feel like making it here.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, I mean, the list goes on and on,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately, it feels like nearly every week, which not

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<v Speaker 1>even it feels like it's true, nearly every week the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys lose someone for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Season and a tenth pole of your team.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's at the point where, well, like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>the balloon has popped, right, anybody who was holding on

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<v Speaker 1>to that minuscule hope for the playoffs throwed it out

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<v Speaker 1>the window. So now you want to finish these last

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<v Speaker 1>four games. You want to finish them strong, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have some fight, You want to do your evaluations

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<v Speaker 1>on some of these younger players, But you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a very real concern about who who might drop next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because again we're talking about twenty five at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>We're that late in the season where you are talking

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty twenty five, and we want to wish the

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<v Speaker 2>best to Demo in that recovery because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>injuries are awful no matter what happened, who they happened to,

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<v Speaker 2>and the rehabits started to back up no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't matter when it's someone like exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>way that he's gotten to this point and pushed through

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<v Speaker 2>adversity and was really the bright spot of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four season for the Cowboys, especially on the defensive side,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the reasons why they have been playing

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<v Speaker 2>so well as of late. Him and Micah Parsons, both

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<v Speaker 2>those guys have stepped up in a big way. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking to push this thing into a twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five season where the defense looked legitimate again and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get that, at least without Demo.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and he was who you were looking at along

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<v Speaker 4>with Michael Parsons to build off of Andrevon Diggs Andron

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<v Speaker 4>plan for next season. You know, it's like exactly a

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<v Speaker 4>cornerstone to say, this is what you build on for

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<v Speaker 4>next season. You put pieces around this guy and you

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be fine, and you don't have that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire this season into this seriously, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't do that. Unfortunately, we've got four more games left.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back on Talking Cowboys, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give a pass to Dallas for losing this game

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<v Speaker 2>at all. There were reasons for them and opportunities for

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<v Speaker 2>them to win the game. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the specific moment after the blocked punt and the punt fiasco,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals blunder as I called it last night on postgame.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about the moments after that there

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<v Speaker 2>was still a chance for you to win that game

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<v Speaker 2>I Like I said going into the break, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to give a pass to the Cowboys because there

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<v Speaker 2>were multiple chances. You intercept Joe Burrow twice, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of opportunities to go down and score. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd either pitter patter and end up with a field goal,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had another red zone turnover. Things just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>accumulate the way you wanted to. Despite playing well and

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<v Speaker 2>enough to win the game, which the Cowboys did. They

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<v Speaker 2>played well enough to win. They didn't go and take

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<v Speaker 2>it either, and they didn't win because of that. They

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<v Speaker 2>left the door open. And when you do so, the

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<v Speaker 2>margins are so very slim in these NFL games that

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<v Speaker 2>just one play can turn the tide. And we saw

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<v Speaker 2>it there. Even after the special teams blunder, Cincinnati got

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<v Speaker 2>the ball on their half of the fifty. Your defense

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<v Speaker 2>has a chance to bow up one more time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a tough ask it is a tough

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<v Speaker 2>ass to stop Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>offense not once but twice in the fourth quarter from

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<v Speaker 2>stopping a game winning drive. But what had happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was a, like you said, a microcosm of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. But also that was the first time that

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<v Speaker 2>I really said I felt like the effort took a dip.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't blame you because of the air leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the stadium and the situation at hand, but the forty

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<v Speaker 2>yard touchdown to Jamar Chase I thought was inexcusable as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you look at the film, it was atrocious. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the coverage was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>So and this I'm with you here. This all season

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<v Speaker 1>I fought against the wave of criticism about this team's effort. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was the other word. It was execution. Okay, absolutely, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first time I'm going to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm right there with you, cal The effort on

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<v Speaker 1>that play on the forty yard touchdown to Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>was absolutely not there. It was absent, completely devoid. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's because of what you said, deflation. They that defense

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<v Speaker 1>was still in shock after Ao muffed that punt. Camera

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<v Speaker 1>panned over to Michael Parsons. Michael was in tears. Yeah, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>he was completely beside himself. And this is the that's

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<v Speaker 1>the defense that had to retake the field immediately. They

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<v Speaker 1>were not mentally on that field for that play that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up in that forty yard touchdown to Jamar Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>They just were not. They were still in a state

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<v Speaker 1>of absolute shock mentally and emotionally, and that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see the effort on.

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<v Speaker 4>That play to hold them to twenty points and then

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<v Speaker 4>also for Jamar Chase to be that open. Every single

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<v Speaker 4>reception to me was he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was dicing up. It was he's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And because he's doing that to most defense, our.

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<v Speaker 4>Entire defense was in a blender of the entire game.

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<v Speaker 4>And granted we talked about this is the first time

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<v Speaker 4>you're seeing Trayvon Diggs, Deron Bland, and Jordan Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>On the field at the same time the first I

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<v Speaker 2>think it would have been worse if they weren't on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Still had the chemistry is not there obviously because that's

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<v Speaker 4>their first time ever playing together.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you said, after the money or a.

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<v Speaker 4>Situation blocked punt mistake all of that for them to

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<v Speaker 4>it's a self fulfilling prophecy to let that touchdown go

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<v Speaker 4>because at that point, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what else, I'm telling you, what else they do

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<v Speaker 2>we need to give?

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<v Speaker 1>They were having an out of body experience at that

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<v Speaker 1>point on that particular on that particular play. They couldn't

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>have told you if they were in Arlington, Texas or Arlington, Maine,

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:06.959
<v Speaker 1>assuming there's an Arlington, Maine. I mean, they were just

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out what the hell had just happened.

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>And before they could kind of reground themselves and get

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 1>their feedback onto the ground, Burrow, Joe Burrow had already

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>thrown that ball to Jamar Chase and Deron Bland missed

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the tackle because again, the defense just wasn't there for

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that play mentally, and then the rest was the rest.

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, you got to put it on

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the offense as well, because even after that play, the

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>offense did have time to try to come down and

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>do something. But then you know, Trey Henderson gets through

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>for another sack on Cooper Rush, which kind of pushed

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:39.959
<v Speaker 1>that drive back even worse. And then from there it

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was just you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What was what was one of the things we talked

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 4>about coming into this game, were I mean or any

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 4>game against the Dallas cow was the season words.

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a get right to get right game.

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>It's a get right game.

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 4>If you have the weakness on your team, it always

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 4>tends to look pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Great against the goals.

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Weakness was the offensive line.

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Not just that they couldn't win close games.

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<v Speaker 4>That too out there, you just got right, but the

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 4>offensive line for the Cincinnati Bengals, they were terrible. They're

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 4>they're awful, They're horrendous. Yeah, yet we gave Joe Burrow

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 4>all day well you know, I mean, he was getting

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 4>the ball out fast.

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Here's what was happening. What was happening.

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 2>There was no pressure.

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>He sat here on Talking Cowboys and said what happened? Yes,

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 1>we said, pressure will not be enough against Joe Burrow.

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I got to get home.

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Against a lot of other quarterbacks, pressure is enough to disrupt,

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 1>knock him off the spot, and you can make some

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 1>plays off of that. But if you don't get home

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>on him, you knock him off his spot. He sets

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>another spot, yes, somewhere else, and he did it time

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:41.880
<v Speaker 1>from anywhere.

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 2>His pocket presence is He's about as good as anybody

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen and in the NFL's history, out of

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 2>all the film that we've watched, and he showed a

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit of this at LSU. But he had an

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>incredible offensive line at LSU, so he didn't have to

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 2>play in a dirty pocket. The pocket was dirty. Even

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 2>on the forty touchdown play. I'm looking at it right now.

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 2>The pocket was collapsing. Os Digi Zua was working on

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.959
<v Speaker 2>the inside and Micah was pressuring off the left side.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the pressure numbers are even up yet,

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>but he had pressure throughout the night. The thing about

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow is he can escape it. And when he

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 2>escapes it, then it's just backyard football at that point.

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 2>And when it's backyard football, who do you look for?

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Whenever you're looking downfield? You look for your best friend,

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 2>number one, the one you got, the one guy you

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 2>know is going to be open at all times, that

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>knows you like the background, and knows exactly where you're

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>going to be and what you're going to be doing.

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 2>And guess what, he's got one of those. And his

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 2>name is Jamar Chase. They went to LSU together, won

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>this thing called a national championship, got drafted just a

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 2>year apart, and then now we're kicking button in the

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>NFL together, and just fourteen receptions seventy seven years is

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>No bigg was targeted like forty five times. Not really,

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>but I really do think that that's that's the Cincinnati

0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>plan right now is And Joe has said it before.

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not like he's trying to keep it a secret.

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>He says, when I get in trouble, I work out

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 2>of the pocket and then I look for Jamar and

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>somewhere downfield he will be open. And that's what they do.

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 2>And they did it over and over and over again,

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>including on the forty yard touchdown in the game.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 4>For the inquisitive fan, explain to me why you can't

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.919
<v Speaker 4>do that with Ceedee Lamb. Explain to me why Ceedee

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Lamb is an open on every single guitar right now,

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 4>right this second. Yes, you don't have the quarterback to

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 4>conduce that. You don't have the quarterback to give them

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 4>that opportunity. Remember, entering this game, Jamar Chase and Ceedee

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Lamb were both tied with seventy nine receptions this season.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 4>They're tied for second in the NFL in terms of reception.

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 4>So it's not like Ceedee Lamb. I saw somebody in

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 4>my mentions say.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Why can't we feed our number one receiver the ball?

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe there's a lack of creativity. Honest, the game,

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>they're going to give the ball to Ceede Lamb. He's

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>tied for second in the NFL in receptions with Jamar Chase.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>So yes, there was a discreption see last night. But

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 2>in general, they've gotten the ball to CD Lamb. But

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't have Cooper Rush who can build something out

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>of nothing from a mobility standpoint, and Dak doesn't really

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>do that a Tony either, But Dak's got a better

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>arm and a better wherewithal of pocket presence to be

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>able to do that. Cooper Rush is snapball, get ball

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>out quickly before the offensive line caves in in front

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>of you.

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>So but also, and keep in mind, when you're looking

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>at the film from last night to your point, cale,

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>there was several points during the game where Cooper Rush

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>had a clean pocket and still delivered a bad ball.

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he doesn't have to didn't.

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>See or didn't see CD Lamb being wide open.

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 4>And that goes to Isaiah's point from last our last

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 4>episode is that there's no velocity on Cooper Rush's ball.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 2>There were a couple of times where gamesman, it fell

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>off the table, and sometimes you want that kind of touch.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>There was one play I think of that was a completion.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember if it was a second or the

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 2>third quarter where he went over the top of a

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>linebacker and dropped it and it kind of at the

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>end and it went right to the receiver. It was

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>a great throw. You wanted it there. But there are

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times. The Cavante Turpin d ball right

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>sideline was one that I thought Turpin didn't necessarily have

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>any room or separation in his own right, but that

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>are under thrown. I mean it was if you're gonna

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>lead Cavante Turpin, lead Cavante Turpin, He's the fastest man

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, by God's sake, I mean, lead him.

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>They left a ten yard short and that's that's normal.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>That's normal to see from Cooper Rush. That's why he's

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a backup quarterback and he's limited, and that's why when

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>people decide to hate on on Deck and hate on

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>his mistakes and clamor that hey it's he's not the

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>franchise quarterback. They don't grow on trees, people, they really don't.

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And you've got a solid, solidified backup quarterback in Cooper Rush,

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and yet you can still see why there's a discrepancy

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 2>between him and the starter caliber.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And to answer your question, the Cowboys can do that

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>with Ceedee Lamb because they have done that with Ceedee Lamb.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It last year, for example, Dak and Ceedee Lamb were

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>firing on all cylinder records and the play calling was

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>firing on all cylinders, literally broke records. Ceedee Lamb literally

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>has a pair of gloves now in Canton because.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>He had a better year than Jamar Chase exactly.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Now it's chasing in coming into this season, it was

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Justin Jefferson and Ceede Lamb. And you could have the

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>argument one A, one B.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Chase up there too.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean as far as one two right, So

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Chase was like three right, he was he theft They're

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>all incredible, Well now, oh no, he's incredible. But based

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>off the season of the twenty twenty three season, it

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was Justin Jefferson versus Ceedee Lamb, and of course it

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>was that was also what few the who's going to

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>end up getting the bigger contract right now, Ceedee Lamb

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 1>has taken a step back, not because of Ceede Lamb,

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>but because of other factors. The play calling. You could

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>question that shoulder. His shoulder. Obviously you lose Dak, but

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>then things were still kind of shaky because he training

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>camp with the holdout, so he got off to a

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>slow start. All these things mattered. All these things are true,

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>But I say that to say this offense with Dak

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Prescott in the center and Micha McCarthy is a play caller,

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>have shown that they can do what Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor,

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and Jamar Chase are doing right now. But this is

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>just the season of Murphy's Law. Nothing's going right.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Well what you just said, you still have the same

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 4>play caller from last season. I just don't think the

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 4>plays are necessarily there for CD, and a big part

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 4>of that is the quarterback exactly.

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that the playbook goes from here to yeah.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's not a knock on Cooper Rush as a

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>person and as a preparator, preparator, preparer, prepartutur, I don't

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>even know what that word would be, but a studier

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and whenever it comes to the playbook, a studious Cooper Rush. No,

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 2>it what it does is it's it's just his limitations

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>as a quarterback. Yeah, that's all it is.

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 4>It's I mean, I don't know, there might be another

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>quarterback situation that would work a little better, depending on

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, the dual threat that they might give you

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 4>at some point.

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Oh and I mean, you know he's hitting

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you from five point one million dollars.

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jerry Jerry alluded to it on the fan

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>this morning. We're getting closer to Trey Lance. We're getting

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>closer to that. I and we talked about this a

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit of the break, But I don't think you'll

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>see Trey Lance until the Cowboys are mathematically eliminated, whether

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>that's next week or the week after, or whatever it

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 2>may be. It may be two game final, two games

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>of the year, if they're mathematically eliminated from postseason contention.

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that's when you'll see Trey Lance.

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 4>And I don't want to say that should be the

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 4>case or shouldn't be the case, just for you, for

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 4>your sake, you're in charge.

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Of the team. Would you be seeing him by now. No,

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't be seeing Lance.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I saw a lot during the preseason, and I get

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's an unknown factor of with twos and threes.

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>You're playing with twos and threes for the most part

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>right now too. Other than Seee Lamb and Brandon Cooks.

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're banged up up front, you don't have

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>a ton going on offensively, You're all enough from Trey

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Lance to say, Okay, I have enough here to say

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Cooper Rush is still gonna give me a great chance

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>to win games. With that being said, I don't think

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you need to shelf him for the rest of the year.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I still think you'll see him. I just don't think

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 2>right now is the right time for that. Yeah. Yeah,

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>you can still finish above five hundred, and then all

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, we're talking about I think I know

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Pat to answer, Yeah, Pat has seen him three weeks.

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, But honestly, at this point, it doesn't better.

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>You got four games left, just just uh. I would

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>say right it out, but the train isn't even on

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the rails right now. So yeah, you're just waiting for

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the sudden to finish going down at this point.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>You know what's gonna make us feel better. You know

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 2>what will make us feel better. Oats, spycraft for coffee, all

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 2>of those things, but taking phone calls. We're gonna take

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>some phone calls. Eight eight eight eight five five two

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>two nine seven. We want to get your thoughts on

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>how how you're feeling on this Tuesday after the Cowboys

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>fall to the Bengals twenty seven to twenty at ad

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>and t dating and first time the Bengals had beaten

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys at home since nineteen eighty eight.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>So, oh, don't you said we were going to feel better?

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, dude. Eight eight eight eight five two nine seven,

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>will be right back with more talking Cowboys.

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 6>Knife twisted Todd thought it would be secure to jog

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 6>in the cheetah Savannah. Todd believed the big cat repellent

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 6>he bought online was reliable. And now Todd is trying

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<v Speaker 6>to be faster than this cheetah that can run eighty

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<v Speaker 2>take some calls eight a eighty five to five. If anything,

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking about the Cowboys on a national they immediately

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<v Speaker 2>we walked in here. I looked up there and he

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<v Speaker 2>did a freeze frame with it. He was just talking

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<v Speaker 2>like about the game, and I was like, yeah, sorry dude,

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<v Speaker 2>that one. Thanks for everything. Appreciate you, all right, eight

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight five five. We're gonna talk to Cowboys Nation

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<v Speaker 2>here during this final segment. It is a Talking Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Champ in Nebraska. Champ, you're on Talking Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, Hey, Bud, how's it going. Good to talk to

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 5>you the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going Champ.

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<v Speaker 12>It's oh my gosh.

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 7>No see.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw your Twitter last night and comment on the

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 5>one guy that was complaining about blocking the tint and.

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<v Speaker 12>I was like, what is this guy?

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 5>He was from Cleveland?

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 12>Most makes sense anyway, nuts man, guys, I'll tell you

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 12>the last few weeks have been fun winning.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all fun to win. Yeah. My thoughts on the

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 5>season a few weeks back where it's probably not going

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 5>to go the way we'd like.

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<v Speaker 12>So let's just have some fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but last night was horrible for the fact that

0:36:54.640 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 5>we did defense, did everything great, even that last drive.

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 5>I don't put on him because, like you guys said earlier,

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 5>they were in shock of what had just happened. That

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 5>mistake by Ao. I was so angry with Tim because

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 5>he was trying to be a hero, and like Nosey

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 5>said earlier, we didn't need a hero in that moment.

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 5>People talk about the leon Let thing. Leon Lett was

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 5>trying to help.

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 12>The team because he thought, I need to recover.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 5>This ball so that we can win. Ao was saying,

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<v Speaker 5>I want to take this ball back and be the hero.

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<v Speaker 12>When we win.

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<v Speaker 5>Big difference, huge difference, And that's what was upsetting to

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 5>me about his mistake last night. Also, McCarthy's just not

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 5>sticking with the run. Rico is just running it down

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 5>these guys' throats. Rigo could have had close to a

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 5>two hundred yard game, agreed, and he went away from it.

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 5>Fourteen run on that driving the point quarter and then

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<v Speaker 5>a pass to the flat that he Cooper can't get

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<v Speaker 5>to fird and then two more passes and we're punning.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, what is wrong, Like, why are you

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 5>doing that? So I love the show, I love you guys,

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna listen. I'm gonna be a fan. But man,

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 5>was that frustrating? And then, like you said, dem ye,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, my heart breaks for that man.

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<v Speaker 12>No doubt everything he did to come back and be

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 12>what he was doing where he was at and I

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<v Speaker 12>had this happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, my heart and prayers go out to him. Thank

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 5>you so much, somebody else calling him, But guys, this

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 5>one was hard to swallow yesterday, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Doubt about it. Thanks for the call, Champ. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>So what he's speaking of is there? And I've seen

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people say it. Once said it directly

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.919
<v Speaker 1>to me, and then I've seen some other writers kind

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<v Speaker 1>of putting out there. They were blaming the decision to

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<v Speaker 1>block the punt. That's right, So let me let me

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>hold on, let me let me be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that make let me be they're saying, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying the problem.

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<v Speaker 13>They're blaming Fossil and and that Visil for actually blocking

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<v Speaker 13>the punt, not the gaff that AO orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 1>After they're after, here's.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got something on that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me just be clear, okay, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a fan that said it to me, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>effectively had to put that fan, unfortunately in a bag

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<v Speaker 1>and send him home with a tag on his toe.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are other writers saying this. I realize other

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 1>writers were colleagues. But let me be clear, and feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to call me, text me, email me, send me

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<v Speaker 1>a Western Union telegram, pony Express, want to I want

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you to understand, look at me in my eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>understand you have lost your damn mind. I don't want

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to hear any of that bs that you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That learn ball, that block feel oh sorry, that block

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<v Speaker 1>punt would have put the Cowboys immediately in field goal position.

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<v Speaker 1>We just spent most of the last segment talking about

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>how the offense was struggling. Cooper Rush wasn't making the

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>throws how and Chap so eloquently called in and reminded

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>everyone that they were getting away from running the ball

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>with Rico Daldles. There were problems with the offense moving

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the ball, which is why they only had twenty points

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to begin with. So you're to tell me that you

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.399
<v Speaker 1>are more confident in the offense and Cooper Rush being

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>able to drive that ball eighty seventy yards or fifty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you say, well, he can kick a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five yarder. Brandon Aubrey is a is an absolute monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Has he missed a couple?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Okay, So if we're talking guarantees, none of

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that's guaranteed, no more guaranteed then the block, the pump

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>block would have been. But the pump block worked. All

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you had to do thereafter was not touch the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you do that, you get the ball in

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.319
<v Speaker 1>field goal position and then you can run the ball,

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>run the ball, run less, kick the ball with less

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>than without giving Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow more time.

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<v Speaker 1>So anybody who is blaming the actual block and not

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened after that, feel free to never talk ball

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to me again.

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Ever. Yeah, I don't even know where that comes from.

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:21.479
<v Speaker 1>I really don't.

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.479
<v Speaker 2>That makes absolutely no sense. If you're blaming the block, yeah,

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Man, go with them. If you're If

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>you're so concerned about the the scenario of a slater gift, stupid,

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it is done. If you're talking about Brandon Aubrey kicking

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>a sixty five yard field goal, right, sixty five yard er.

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I get it. He's a great weapon for you. Whatever

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it may be. You go back and drive in the

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 2>field goal range. If that block punt does not get

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>touched by Ammanio Wi Warier. We're talking about that as

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 2>one of the plays of the season, of the year.

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Nick Vigual tho the game if it wins you the

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>game with just over a couple of minutes left. Yeah, dude,

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where that is. And we're praising John

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 2>Fossil here today.

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and as we still should, probably because it was

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 4>a great call and it worked, and you put your

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 4>your players in the.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Best station to call, and Nick vigil deserves praise for

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>what he did, not to be looked upon as the

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>person to blame. Are you kidding me?

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 2>I hate that that guy forced a fumble, Like I

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.240
<v Speaker 2>hate that. What are you talking about?

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 5>Ball?

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I hear cricket is hiring fans go over there.

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 2>They probably are when when cricket's pretty bad, we're talking

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 2>about Ammonio Will Warrier and and that whole scenario. I

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>thought Jordan Lewis put it really well yesterday. Yes it's

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a mistake. Yes, the ball was passed the line of scrimmage.

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 2>That's a live football. It acts as a punt. Get

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 2>away from it, and everybody, and like you said, everybody

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.919
<v Speaker 2>should have gotten away from it. We all a champ there.

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 2>He brought up the point and said he was trying

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 2>to pick up the ball and he was leaning forward.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>He was trying to recover that ball. He wasn't trying

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to get up and run. He was trying to recover it.

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 2>That guy, in terms of Amani, he was diving for

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the football to recover the football. He wasn't diving on

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it to take it back to the house and be

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a hero. Was wiry. It was very much so. What

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 2>leon Lett was trying to do. He thought it was

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a live ball as in a fumble. Didn't know the rules,

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 2>which is a mistake in its own right. But I'm

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:28.439
<v Speaker 2>not going to sit here and say he was trying

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 2>to play the ultimate hero and it was a selfish move.

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Whatever he was doing he felt like was best at

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 2>the time. You just got to know the rules.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Those guyn't wondering and they're saying, oh, well, the rule

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>is stupid. Just so you understand, a block punt is

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>still a punt.

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Still a punt because it leaves it's just kickers are right.

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>The only difference is it didn't go fifty yards. It

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>went fourteen yards. Yeah, So just like if it went

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty yards and the kicking team recovered it, it's their ball.

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>If it's blocked and it goes fourteen yards and the

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>kicking team return recovers it, it's their ball.

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, and if you were to, if you were to

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 2>treat it as a live football way that Amani thought

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it would, then that just turns every blocked punt into

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 2>a crapshoot, is what it would turn it into. So

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>that's why it's the rule. You can block a punt

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 2>and it still acts as a punt if it crosses

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 2>a line of scrimmage. That's the key word. It has

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>to cross hate the.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Rule to love the rule. The fact is the rule

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 1>is the rule, and it is the rule. I gotta

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>especially situational football.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Last call, let's go to Larry out in South Carolina. Larry,

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you're on talking Cowboys. What's going on?

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 5>All right? I said my call It was down over

0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 5>the bummer last night. But my wife was telling me

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 5>to be quiet because I can't take it reco for gosh. Yeah, man,

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 5>my wife was quiet. You want to wait the neighbors.

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Good for you.

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now my question it's no seed. Put your jacket on.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's ear too early in the week, but go

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<v Speaker 5>be in Charlotte Sunday. Can we at least win that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate the cal Larry.

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<v Speaker 5>You'd be good science.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, find it. Find it. It's the NFL,

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>so you can win. You can win because it's the NFL.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Odds are against you, though, especially with Bryce Young getting confident,

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and you're also going to likely we'll see how the

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>week goes, but you're likely going to be without Cooper

0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>b B. You're starting center on top of losing to

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<v Speaker 1>Marvey on overshewn because Cooper BB left the game with

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<v Speaker 1>a concussion on last night and he's moving into a

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>short week. So if you recall what happened with Jake Ferguson,

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>he was moving into short week and he missed not

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>one but two games. So we'll see if Cooper BB

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is available. But there's another shakeup on the offensive line.

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>The umpteenth won this season. As you saw, brock Hoffman

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 1>went to center, TJ. Bass went to right guard, So

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that lineup, we'll see if Tyler Guidan is healthy, but

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance to be chill with idoga. Tyler Smith,

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Brock Kaufman, TJ. Bass, and Terrence steelere.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like we all thought at the start.

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.439
<v Speaker 1>So the adversity continues to stack. But again, never say

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>never in the NFL. Just ask the Browns versus the Steelers.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 1>But you're up against it as far as walking in

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the airline and trying to leave with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Win, when I think a way that you win that

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<v Speaker 2>game is those guys continue to play well. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you would have told me at the start of

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<v Speaker 2>the year in training camp that by week fifteen it

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 2>was going to be that starting five, I'd be like,

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I have zero confidence whatsoever in this offense.

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:18.959
<v Speaker 1>And it's not.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm super confident anyways, but I think this offensive

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.280
<v Speaker 2>line has done a tremendous job of filling in the holes.

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 2>You still have zero confidence, but it's not because of

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>the offense, not because of the offensive line. There's a

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 2>couple other things that are playing there and not Rico either.

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Rico was phenomenal you and I even I looked over

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 2>at you the press box leaning back and I was like,

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I can just feel eyes on me.

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that's what you do. So back to back

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yard rushing games for the first time in

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 1>his career and set a new career high last night

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>over the week prior. So Rico is is firing on

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>all cylinders. It just got to stop getting away from him.

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's that shouts out to not only what Rico

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is being able to do and showing his It was

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times that she was a bit more patient.

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a particular play where he cut back inside, but

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the lane had opened wide on the right between the

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>guard and Terrence Steele, and he just didn't wait that

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 1>split second for it to developing to turn into like

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.839
<v Speaker 1>a three yard game versus maybe like a nine yard game.

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, Rico was balling. Cowboys just

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.439
<v Speaker 1>got to keep handing him the ball off in Again,

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that's also created to the offensive line because even with

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the shuffling going on, guys like brock Hoffman, TJ. Bass,

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>obviously Tyler Smith continues to play at a high level.

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Terrence Steele, he's playing some good football too.

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:31.919
<v Speaker 1>So that old line is doing some things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are definitely doing some things, and they're doing

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:40.240
<v Speaker 2>it while rotating and maneuvering and revolving door and musical chairs,

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:45.959
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of stuff, maneuvering, maneuvering, maneuvering. I like, yeah,

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I liked it. Last night, I said on the pregame show,

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about decimals, like I was emphasizing a

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 2>number of one of the stats or whatever, and I

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>was like, normally we don't use decimals, and I was,

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>and immediately Jerry Madelon texted me it was like, it's decimals.

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, I'm dealing with decibels with its

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 2>echo on the plaza because there's like a two second delay.

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I was, yeah, it was just mistakes happened. I also

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 2>ripped my pants all the way down last night too.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, yeah, I need to find the picture. I

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>should have brought the pants in there. There's still in

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 2>my truck, my suit pants that I wore for pregame live.

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>As soon as I sat down in the press box.

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking from like belt down to the crotch area,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way down.

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<v Speaker 1>Even even Kyle's pants have to go on season indiing

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>torn Ye, torn torn seems, torn seems all the way unbelievable.

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 9>I had to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked like I did the walk of shame, like

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<v Speaker 2>out of the press box as sneakily as I could,

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 2>went all the way down that's a good way to

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.720
<v Speaker 2>in talking cowboys. Went all the way down to my truck,

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 2>went all the way out to the parking lot, had

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:52.919
<v Speaker 2>a pair of jeans in the truck, changed into those,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 2>and then walked to Walmart across the street. So I

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>went from the truck to Walmart, bought a pair of

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 2>the only slacks, black slacks. I was where or I

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>could find put those on. It was funny. I didn't

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 2>even have my credit card with me, it was in

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the press box. I had to zell the person in

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>front of me and then check out line, and then

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 2>walked back to my truck, changed into my my suit pants,

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 2>walked back up to the press box, and acted like nothing.

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Ever happens the twenty twenty four season.

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's one hundred microcosm.

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Of how this walking to Walmart, feeling the draft.

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Before I walked on walk, I felt the briskness, the

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>little brisk in God's places. Let me just say this,

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 2>get you a friend like Barry Church, because Barry was

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting right next to me whenever it happened because I

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.399
<v Speaker 2>sat down, we just got back in from the pregame show.

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Sat down. I felt it and then I looked at Barry.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, I need you to do me

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a favorite. I was like, you need to tell me

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>how bad this is, and he's like, what happened? I

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, I tore my pants. I was like, I

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 2>got to see how bad it is. I'm going to

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 2>stand up, but you're going to just take a look

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:00.279
<v Speaker 2>at it, and you're gonna tell me I it is.

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>He was like, all right, I got you. I stood up.

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 2>He goes, goh and sit back down. Goh and sit

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 2>back down. It was bad, So good little laugh for

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you and for me and for everybody to end what

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 2>was otherwise a sad night at at and T Stadium,

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven to twenty the final. We'll be back tomorrow.

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 2>We're already turned to the page. Like Patrick said, it

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>is a short week. The Carolina Panthers are coming up.

0:50:20.440 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do the Cowboys defensive preview against Bryce Young Company,

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>who are starting to pick up some steam on their

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.359
<v Speaker 2>offensive side of the ball. How can the Cowboys, without

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow being overshown, help slow things down? From Carolina. We'll

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.240
<v Speaker 2>talk about it tomorrow. Tommy Yarish will join the show

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>as well for Patrick Nocy, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 2>in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long from

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<v Speaker 2>Talking Cowboys. We'll see you for Wednesday. This has been

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<v Speaker 2>a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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