Speaker 1: Good afternoon from Indianapolis, America. Allen here joined alongside by
Speaker 1: the New York Post Brian Costello. The two thousand seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Combine is officially underway. Because what do you think
Speaker 1: about this new environment because we are at the convention center. Uh.
Speaker 1: In years past, we were packed like sardines over at
Speaker 1: Lucas Oil. It just keeps getting bigger. It feels like
Speaker 1: every year there's more and more media covering this. It's amazing,
Speaker 1: you know. And now they've gotten as a bigger room
Speaker 1: and bigger you know, more space a little bit and
Speaker 1: moved us out of the stadium, which I think is better.
Speaker 1: But it's just amazing how many people cover this thing
Speaker 1: every year and how many more there are every year
Speaker 1: covering it. And the thing that's going to change this
Speaker 1: year is that the fans are gonna be making their
Speaker 1: way through here uh tomorrow, actually workouts beginning and this
Speaker 1: is the NFL's fan experience here in Indianapolis. And you
Speaker 1: folks can't see this at home, but you'll be able
Speaker 1: to check this out later on New York dot Com
Speaker 1: and all our social media platforms. Is that fans can
Speaker 1: go to the bench. proNTs area. Take a look at that.
Speaker 1: They can run the forty yard dash, they can test
Speaker 1: their verticals, um in the vertical jump area. This is
Speaker 1: a massive, massive undertaking here in India. Will you be
Speaker 1: doing the bench dresser? You go for the fans. I'd
Speaker 1: like to for jets dot com. Right, let's do about
Speaker 1: four or five times. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: You look get a good shape. Now you do some
Speaker 1: cross fit yourself. So I don't think I could do
Speaker 1: it now, I don't think I could do it. Um. Obviously, Uh,
Speaker 1: nin jetson was very busy off season, as we expected,
Speaker 1: uh Todd Bowls and like Macagnum, we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: at the podium here at the convention Convention Center today.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that's not taking place, so uh they will act
Speaker 1: talk to the reporters probably tomorrow, hopefully tomorrow tom all
Speaker 1: and then we'll carry that live. But first things first,
Speaker 1: cause the jets number of prominent offseason moves here, uh
Speaker 1: and most recently releasing the roll rivas. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think every winter your kind of condition and used
Speaker 1: to this. Now that there's gonna be cuts for the
Speaker 1: salary cap reasons. But these are some big names, you know,
Speaker 1: you talk about the Roll revis, talking about Nick Mangold.
Speaker 1: These are guys who are probably having the Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor someday. You know. Rivas is twenty four, I think
Speaker 1: could be retired someday. And you see those names getting caught.
Speaker 1: It's still startling, even though we kind of have been
Speaker 1: talking about it for a little while that it might happen.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing to think about it, and amazing to
Speaker 1: think about how much transition has happened with this team
Speaker 1: in the last few years and to see those guys go.
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's just startling to see the
Speaker 1: names and see it actually happened. And you know, the
Speaker 1: Jets are clearly turning the roster over like mccagney is,
Speaker 1: you know, turning the page on the last two years
Speaker 1: of what he's done. And I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: this is the signal that the times are changing. We're
Speaker 1: on the Jets right now. Revus Scots last year just
Speaker 1: the one takeaway, But in two thousand fifteen, after he
Speaker 1: came back to the Jets, they actually had a career
Speaker 1: high nine takeaways. And when you look at the Jets
Speaker 1: defensively in two thousand sixteen, that was the one thing
Speaker 1: that Todd Bolts continued to say that that was the
Speaker 1: biggest difference yet our unit year to year was the
Speaker 1: lack of take week. Yeah, they just couldn't get the
Speaker 1: takeaways in two thousand sixteen. I think when you look
Speaker 1: at the signing of Reevus and two thousand fifteen, it's
Speaker 1: easy to say it was a mistake. But in my eyes,
Speaker 1: I understand what the Jets were thinking. They were coming
Speaker 1: off a top season in two thousand fourteen, they had
Speaker 1: regime change. It was a way to get a big
Speaker 1: name in here and to give the fans something to
Speaker 1: feel good about. And he was coming off a good season,
Speaker 1: and he had a good season in two thousand and
Speaker 1: fifteen for the most part. So I understand it, And
Speaker 1: you know, I think ultimately, you know, when we get
Speaker 1: five years away or ten years away and the Jets
Speaker 1: are honoring throughout vous, no one's gonna remember two thousand sixteen.
Speaker 1: They're gonna remember two thousand nine. They're gonna remember the
Speaker 1: interception in San Diego. They're gonna remember the interception in
Speaker 1: September eleven, two thousand eleven against Dallas. They're gonna remember
Speaker 1: all those great memories of Revis and not necessarily some
Speaker 1: of the struggles he had last year. Woody Johnson said
Speaker 1: in a statement that, hey, listen, Darrell Revis home is
Speaker 1: always going to be here with the Jets. You also
Speaker 1: mentioned Nick Mangold, a guy who the Jets draft had
Speaker 1: played eleven seasons here with the Green and White, seven
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, um a number of All Pro appearances or honors.
Speaker 1: I should say as well, uh, an elite center, and
Speaker 1: that's a tough one too. And then Mike mckangnon said,
Speaker 1: with that decision, tough business decision, Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think with Mangold, it's funny. As a center, it's
Speaker 1: hard to appreciate that they're not in the highlights. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of film on them on TV.
Speaker 1: You don't know what's going on necessarily, you know, in
Speaker 1: the trenches. To me, the moment I realized what Mangol
Speaker 1: meant this team was when he wasn't on the field.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember in two thousand eleven he missed
Speaker 1: two games and it was the first time he had
Speaker 1: missed games, and things just weren't operating well for the offense,
Speaker 1: and there were Blitzer blitzers coming from everywhere, and Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez was ducking and diving in Baltimore remember a night game,
Speaker 1: and you know it was like wow, you know, Mangol
Speaker 1: might be the m v P the way they couldn't
Speaker 1: handle it without him. And so you know, he talked
Speaker 1: to his teammates and he talked to the quarterbacks he's
Speaker 1: played with. He can't overstate the importance he had to
Speaker 1: this team. He really was the brains of the offense
Speaker 1: on the field, and he had some young quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: work with through the years with Sanchez coming in Gino Smith,
Speaker 1: and you know he was kind of a guy who
Speaker 1: guided them when they were in their early days and
Speaker 1: helped them through it. So you know, I think, um,
Speaker 1: the time had come clearly. You know, they had to
Speaker 1: make this decision, was a business decision. But Mango is
Speaker 1: another one who's going to be clearly honored by the
Speaker 1: Jets someday and you know will always be I think
Speaker 1: a favorite for the Jets. Yeah too, future ring honor
Speaker 1: and ductees, no doubt about it. In Mangold and Reeth
Speaker 1: this uh two thousand six, the Jets drafted the Brickshaw
Speaker 1: Ferguson out of Virginia number four overall that came back
Speaker 1: picks later in the first round, took a center at
Speaker 1: Ohio State by the name of Nick Mangold, and uh wow,
Speaker 1: those two had a hell of a run. We know
Speaker 1: the Brickshaw Ferguson obviously retired before the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen campaign and Nick Mangold becomes a free agent, and
Speaker 1: opinion he said very clearly that we'll see where the
Speaker 1: future holds. It looks like we'll be playing against Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he'll play somewhere. And if you look at it,
Speaker 1: you know, in two thousand and six they take the
Speaker 1: Britishaw and Mangold. Two thousand and seven they take Durell
Speaker 1: and David and that was really the foundation of then
Speaker 1: that run to the playoffs in two thousand nine, two
Speaker 1: thousand ten, and those really good teams. And I think
Speaker 1: you know the Jets, you always hear people saw built
Speaker 1: through the draft. Build that was truly building through the draft,
Speaker 1: and then you supplement around it. You know, I think
Speaker 1: from Mike McCadney, now when you're looking at it, turning
Speaker 1: the page, now, that's what you want to duplicate. You
Speaker 1: want to try to get two guys two years back
Speaker 1: back to back that are gonna be you know, ten
Speaker 1: year players for you. That's the way it works. You know.
Speaker 1: Now we can take the questions. Uh, we're live here
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis at the Convention Center, Eric Ellen joined alongside
Speaker 1: by the New York Post Briant Costello, the two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Combine underway. In addition to uh Reeve the Mangold,
Speaker 1: the Jets also let the number two score in their
Speaker 1: franchises history go and Nick Folk, who had a tremendous
Speaker 1: run himself. Don't underestimate his importance, not only on the field,
Speaker 1: his game winning kicks and uh, he had a tremendous
Speaker 1: year last year, but the guy, it was just like
Speaker 1: Nick and Durrell have done some good things in the
Speaker 1: community as well during the time here. Yeah, that one
Speaker 1: surprised me a little more than Mangold and Reeves. I
Speaker 1: kind of saw those coming. Folk. I didn't see coming
Speaker 1: as much as cap number wasn't as large, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the game winning kicks, you go through them.
Speaker 1: And he started thinking about you know, in hearing you
Speaker 1: know right down the road, um is the biggest one probably,
Speaker 1: But then against Dallas. We talked about Darrell's interception set up. Folks.
Speaker 1: You know, crazy night at MetLife and you know, one
Speaker 1: of the loudest nights I think I remember at MetLife Stadium.
Speaker 1: So you know, Folk had a really good run for
Speaker 1: the Jets. You don't see kickers have runs like this often.
Speaker 1: So I think the Jets will miss him, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe fans, you know, I don't understand how important he was.
Speaker 1: And you right, he was a good guy in locker
Speaker 1: room to Bruno Jackomani another good guy in the locker room.
Speaker 1: The first two years here with the Jets. He started
Speaker 1: thirty two games. A back ailment, uh really set him back.
Speaker 1: Last year's limited five games and he couldn't over come
Speaker 1: at the Jets let him go. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: Brenda I thought brought some toughness to the line. He
Speaker 1: was always a good guy in the locker room. He
Speaker 1: was fun to talk to, funny guy. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: he go a little too much toughness with the penalties
Speaker 1: from time to time. But you know, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the writing was on the wall this year with Brenta's
Speaker 1: back that that's a tough injury to come back from.
Speaker 1: When you're three pound offensive time and back injury. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think, um, you know, he did some
Speaker 1: good things for the Jets at the time he was there,
Speaker 1: but you know, it was clearly time to move on
Speaker 1: for them. So what do these releases mean for a
Speaker 1: number of the young guys on this roster? And we
Speaker 1: just talked about Branald jack Amenia. How about a guy
Speaker 1: like Brandon Shell. Could he be in line to be
Speaker 1: the starting right teckle? The Jets release the roll read this,
Speaker 1: does that mean, Hey, we're gonna be expecting more out
Speaker 1: of a guy like Justin Burrs next year? And then
Speaker 1: Nick Mangold went out last year. I thought West Johnson
Speaker 1: came in and played pretty warm song. Yeah. I thought
Speaker 1: West did a good job to last year, and I
Speaker 1: thought I could see kind of as the season was
Speaker 1: going on, I felt like the Jets were seeing what
Speaker 1: he could do, and that factored into the Mangold decision, like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we can live with West at center. So I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get a good crack at that and
Speaker 1: the other guys. I think now two seventeen is about
Speaker 1: let's see what these young guys can do that they've drafted.
Speaker 1: You know they've Mike mccagnell's hob Bowls and Wedy Johnson
Speaker 1: repeatedly we're gonna build through the draft, built the draft.
Speaker 1: It gets tedious when the press conference and hear it
Speaker 1: over and over again, but it's truly what you know
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. Well. Now it's time to see
Speaker 1: what they've built I think in these last two years,
Speaker 1: and then this year what they can get in the draft.
Speaker 1: So Ken Brandon shall slip in there and be the
Speaker 1: right tackle. Can Justin Burrs be the quarnerback, Is Lorenzo
Speaker 1: Maldy gonna take that next step and kind of solidify
Speaker 1: himself as that pass rusher on the outside. Of course,
Speaker 1: they have the quarterbacks, Bryce Petty, Christian Hackenburg. Can one
Speaker 1: of them emerge? You know? Uh? So I think now
Speaker 1: is the time to see. Let's let's see what mccagnet
Speaker 1: has done in these first two drafts, and then I
Speaker 1: think this year they're gonna be looking to add to
Speaker 1: that with you know, at least two or three guys
Speaker 1: I think in those first few picks that I can
Speaker 1: play right away. What are you most interested to hear
Speaker 1: from both Mike mcagnet and Todd Bowls when they go
Speaker 1: to vodingum uh tomorrow. I'm interested to hear, you know, philosophically,
Speaker 1: what they're thinking, how honest they'll be if they think,
Speaker 1: you know, we've heard competitive rebuild for the last two years, Well,
Speaker 1: is now a true rebuild? Is now they're really going
Speaker 1: at it? Um, you know they The most interesting thing
Speaker 1: to me right now is the two tracks long term
Speaker 1: and short term. For Todd this is year three. Traditionally
Speaker 1: in the NFL, that's you know, coaches gotta gotta get
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Coaches have to do big things in
Speaker 1: year three? Will he be able to do that? If
Speaker 1: the Jets are so focused on going young and starting
Speaker 1: to turn the page towards you know, the next wave here,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting balance, and so I'm kind of curious
Speaker 1: to hear that. Um. You know, they've had some time
Speaker 1: to reflect on the season and now it's time to
Speaker 1: start looking aheads to two thousand and seventeen. I'm always
Speaker 1: interested to hear about quarterbacks. What's the planet quarterback? I
Speaker 1: think that's probably the biggest question on everyone's minds. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, which was is it? Which isn't unusual with
Speaker 1: this team? Every year it feels like there's some kind
Speaker 1: of question with quarterback. Last year was could they get
Speaker 1: a deal done with Fits? And now this here is
Speaker 1: who's going to be the next quarterback? Yeah, you mentioned
Speaker 1: Hackenburg red short season. I think that was the plan
Speaker 1: all along, if you're listening to those guys even before
Speaker 1: the season started. And then Petty got his feet when don't. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: uh suffered the torn laborer and it's a left shoulder,
Speaker 1: non throwing shoulder, so he should be back. So you
Speaker 1: got two young guys on the roster and then uh
Speaker 1: Ryning Fitzpantri and Gino Smith both on restrict to free agents. Actually,
Speaker 1: Genal spoke DOWNFL Network this week and he said he's
Speaker 1: keeping all options on the table. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: with Gino, I think that's a situation where I don't
Speaker 1: think that's kind of probably the first choice for either side.
Speaker 1: But I do think if the Jets look around and
Speaker 1: um don't see what, don't see anything they really like,
Speaker 1: And I think if Gino looks around and isn't getting
Speaker 1: the offers he likes, they might come back together and
Speaker 1: make a deal. So I can see that happening. Uh,
Speaker 1: for sure, they're with Gino because there's a couple of
Speaker 1: Twitter questions here. Um Curtis asked, what does the camp
Speaker 1: like right now for the Jet Well, after the Revas
Speaker 1: release becomes official, I think they're gonna be about twenty
Speaker 1: seven millions under the cap um, you know, and they
Speaker 1: can still create some more space if they make a
Speaker 1: few more moves. So I think, you know, they'll have
Speaker 1: enough room to to make it moves in free agency here,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And Daniel asked specifically how much the
Speaker 1: Putney release of Revas. How much money did that free up?
Speaker 1: For that free up nine point three million dollars, Drew
Speaker 1: was scheduled to make fifteen point three in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen, six of its guaranteed so nine point three
Speaker 1: gets cleared up by that one. Um. I and to
Speaker 1: ask you about the coaching changes year. Obviously, Kevin Green
Speaker 1: comes in the coach outside linebackers, le Roy Glover assistant
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Jets have a new offensive coordinator and
Speaker 1: John Morton and uh new quarterbacks coach, and Jeremy Bates
Speaker 1: is having back for a second stint uh here with
Speaker 1: the Jets. Yeah, a lot of turnover on the staff,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what John Morton does. I don't think one really knows.
Speaker 1: You know, he's never been a coordinator before. He comes
Speaker 1: from New Orleans. He's been with Shawan Paynton, been with
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh in San Francisco. So those are obviously good
Speaker 1: offensive minds, and we'll see what he brings. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, defensively, I'm interested in what Kevin Green does.
Speaker 1: I've heard good things. Actually talked to a j Hawk
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and he said, you know, wait
Speaker 1: to see this guy in the field and the energy
Speaker 1: he brings. I think the Jets could use that. They
Speaker 1: were kind of a mellow group last year, and I
Speaker 1: think they could use somebody that's kind of a little
Speaker 1: bit crazy out in the practice field and bring some energy.
Speaker 1: That's uh, the New York Posts. Bryan Costello, you can
Speaker 1: follow him obviously at the post and it'll be uh
Speaker 1: covering the combine wire to wire tomorrow top bowls and
Speaker 1: Mike mccagnan at the podium here we're gonna bring in
Speaker 1: a Monday morning quarterbacks. Albert Brier here momentarily. Thanks guys
Speaker 1: so much for joining us, and uh listen, um, the
Speaker 1: player workouts in Indianapolis begin tomorrow. Like I said, Bowls
Speaker 1: and mccagnan will speak to the media Friday, a Thursday,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and then the quarterbacks here in Indy uh
Speaker 1: will uh talk as well. Um. We're here at the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Convention Center at the two thousand seventeen NFL combine underway.
Speaker 1: He just heard from the New York Post. Brian Costello
Speaker 1: momentarily will be joined by Albert Brier of Monday Morning
Speaker 1: quarterback dot Com. Of course, Albert, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us. How are you enjoying the new game? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's good, It's good. It's good. You know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of an opportunity to, you know, work on building something.
Speaker 1: And I think that the model, uh, you know for
Speaker 1: what what we have is something it's effective. I think
Speaker 1: we've seen it work. You know, there are places I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, in essence, Barston was a vertical, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like in uh, you know, obviously Bill
Speaker 1: Simmons has had some success with it, both the ESPN
Speaker 1: and now on his own with the Ringer. Um, you
Speaker 1: know what's done a great job with the vertical, Yahoo
Speaker 1: and so um it's been a great opportunity to kind
Speaker 1: of get in and try to help build something where
Speaker 1: you know, I think that the it's in a place
Speaker 1: where the business is going. How long has it been now,
Speaker 1: and what are some of the what are some of
Speaker 1: the projects that you're currently working on? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I like right now. I mean we've got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff going on. But I you know, I'll have
Speaker 1: a story up tomorrow. And Joe Mixon and um, you
Speaker 1: know what the who who he is? You know? And
Speaker 1: I think that if he had been they hadn't put
Speaker 1: the rule and to prevent him from coming. And obviously
Speaker 1: Chad Kelly and to Mario uh string Fellow were also
Speaker 1: affected by that. Uh, this would be Joe Mixon week
Speaker 1: because the video that came out in December and so, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I I talked to Joe last week. I've
Speaker 1: talked to a couple of people at Oklahoma, talked a
Speaker 1: couple of people around the league, and um, just trying
Speaker 1: to get an assessment on on on who he is
Speaker 1: and what teams think of him, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think once we get out of here, you know,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's Pro Days next week and so that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a very very big story and so that that's the
Speaker 1: next thing that's uh, that's gonna go up from a
Speaker 1: power teams approaching to Joe Mixing. Like you said, three
Speaker 1: in the top college prospects are here, and Mixing is
Speaker 1: one of the better players there was one of the
Speaker 1: better players in college football. But uh, obviously, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's situation there Uh hit a woman. It was on
Speaker 1: tape that was released and Uma, he was not invited
Speaker 1: here to the combin. Yeah, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: that a big part of it from the week's perspective.
Speaker 1: I mean, they they've turned this into a TV show,
Speaker 1: and so they didn't want the TV show this week
Speaker 1: to be Joe Mixing Week, which you know we've seen
Speaker 1: that in the past with guys like Cam Newton and
Speaker 1: man Tito and Johnny Manzel were one personality kind of
Speaker 1: like that that becomes what the week's all about. And so, um,
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to and they actively wanted to
Speaker 1: avoid that, and that's I think the real reason why
Speaker 1: he's not here. Um, look what he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no question it's horrific. You know, in that video
Speaker 1: is absolutely positively revolting to watch and so jarring anytime
Speaker 1: you actually see it. And that's the issue. You know,
Speaker 1: it's because they had you know, in July of two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen that happened, and you know, I you know,
Speaker 1: I talk him to people around him like, um, Now,
Speaker 1: he stayed there in Oklahoma and it was a very
Speaker 1: tough environment obviously, and um, you know it would have
Speaker 1: been easy for him because his losses and leave. I
Speaker 1: think the teams like the fact that he stuck it
Speaker 1: out there. Um, you can question whether or not Oklahoma
Speaker 1: should kept him, but that's not a kid, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so there's um, there's just I
Speaker 1: think when you look at it, there's a he he
Speaker 1: had kind of moved past it, you know, as a
Speaker 1: college player, and he'd gotten to the point where he
Speaker 1: was well beyond where um you know where that was,
Speaker 1: where that was affecting him all that much. And then
Speaker 1: the video kind of gave it new life. And it's
Speaker 1: a good example of how video changes everything. We certainly
Speaker 1: saw it in the Ray Rice case. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: there have been other cases like Tyree Kale where you
Speaker 1: didn't see the same level of attention um on an
Speaker 1: incident because there was right and so I think the
Speaker 1: question becomes, I mean, they're gonna be certain teams that
Speaker 1: can't touch him, you know, with the Giants and the
Speaker 1: in the you know, the Ravens, teams that have been
Speaker 1: through that probably can't touch him. But I think a
Speaker 1: lot of teams look at and say, we think he's
Speaker 1: learned his lesson. Um, what he did horrible, Um, But
Speaker 1: you know, he did all the right things for the
Speaker 1: last three years. And that happened on the day after
Speaker 1: his eighteenth birthday, and we think he deserves a second chance.
Speaker 1: And I look, here's the bottom line. In the NFL.
Speaker 1: The second chances are a function of talent, and if
Speaker 1: this is an average player, he may not get a
Speaker 1: shot in the NFL. This is not an average player.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like a first round type of back.
Speaker 1: And so somebody I think is gonna be sitting there
Speaker 1: on the third, fourth round. Besides, we're Sports Takes a
Speaker 1: ask Overt Brier from Monday Morning Quarterback joining us right
Speaker 1: now on New York Just dot com and Facebook Live
Speaker 1: teams Facebook a page. We're taking the live questions right now.
Speaker 1: And Andy asked what positions Jets targeting in the draft.
Speaker 1: I gotta go through free agent yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the easiest I mean the easiest one. I think that
Speaker 1: that everybody would look at his offensive line based on
Speaker 1: the attrition there the last couple of years, um, with
Speaker 1: you know obviously Brick and then Claydy being gone now
Speaker 1: and Nick Mangold being gone. Um. The problem is that
Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy to address that in
Speaker 1: the draft, and so you have to look at free
Speaker 1: agency and because there are teams out there that need
Speaker 1: offensive line help, um, and know that this isn't a
Speaker 1: very good group of offensive linemen coming out. Um, they're
Speaker 1: going to be bidders and free agency on on on
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, and so uh, you know, I think that's
Speaker 1: an obvious area of concern where they need to find
Speaker 1: answers the flip side, and you know, another one of
Speaker 1: their their big needs to be corner, you know. And
Speaker 1: and there's a deep group of free agents and there's
Speaker 1: a deep group in the draft ten eleven corners that
Speaker 1: could go in the first couple of rounds. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, they they they're in a good spot at
Speaker 1: that position because you know, there's just there's there there's
Speaker 1: a there will be a lot of options for him
Speaker 1: out there. And then of course the big question is
Speaker 1: whosial quarterback of the future, and I think they're still
Speaker 1: sorting through that, like that part of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: part of why you bring in Jeremy Bates is to
Speaker 1: get a clearer read on Christian Hackenburgh and and and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if if he's flexible. And so
Speaker 1: they're going through that process now and you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see whether effectively do in April. Yeah, you've been uh
Speaker 1: covering the NFL for a long time now, so you've
Speaker 1: been around a number of these guys. When when you
Speaker 1: think about Todd Bowls edition at the offensive coordinator spot
Speaker 1: with John Morton, Yeah, you know, I think one of
Speaker 1: the things that made it tough for them to make
Speaker 1: a higher his perception that Todd could be in on
Speaker 1: jaking ground, which is tough, you know. I mean it's
Speaker 1: just if if if you're an offensive coordinator candidate, would
Speaker 1: you rather go with like Sitty Mike McCoy, would you
Speaker 1: rather go with fans Joseph it was gonna be a
Speaker 1: first year coach in Denver, Um, you know, you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a couple of years to build something,
Speaker 1: or would you go into would you want to go
Speaker 1: to a place where you know, a guy's job could
Speaker 1: potentially be in the line, and you know, the reality
Speaker 1: of it is that to be dealt with that to
Speaker 1: some degree. They also dealt with, you know, some bright
Speaker 1: young candidates being blocked, and so I know it wasn't
Speaker 1: an easy process, but uh, Morton. Morten's got a good reputation,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think bringing in Jeremy Bates to
Speaker 1: backstop and a guy who's got a lot of like
Speaker 1: calling experience helps. Um. You know, I I the really
Speaker 1: the way I look at it. You know, I think
Speaker 1: you're bringing a well respected coordinator, and I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some delegating of responsibility there. It would be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how all that shakes out. Yeah, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Free agency, but he's gonna come right
Speaker 1: after the combine this year, because we're sitting here in Indy.
Speaker 1: It's late, it's March first already. When we get back,
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about free agency moves. You talked about
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets addressing the cornerback position, and you said
Speaker 1: you like the depth and talent there um up at
Speaker 1: the top or some of the names in the chimp
Speaker 1: on chet Well. I mean in the draft, you've got
Speaker 1: the the Ohio State kids, Marshall and Lattimore and Gary
Speaker 1: and Conley. You've got the Florida kids Quincy Wilson and
Speaker 1: Tease taber. Uh. There's just I mean, there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of them. You know, there's just and and there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who feel like the eleventh
Speaker 1: or twelfth corner could wind up being as good as
Speaker 1: the third or the fourth quarner to go and so um,
Speaker 1: the good news is there's a lot of them. Most
Speaker 1: of them are very physically talented. You've got a lot
Speaker 1: of the Seattle type corners with you know, long arms
Speaker 1: and tall and all that. So you know, I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of good options. And if
Speaker 1: you want to take one sixth overall, there's a good
Speaker 1: chance there will be a player there at that position
Speaker 1: that's worth taking that high. Kevin from Facebook, Albert wants
Speaker 1: to no offense or defense at six for the Jets.
Speaker 1: You touched upon that a little bit. We know the
Speaker 1: Jets just looking back to the history, it's just the
Speaker 1: way everything is fallen. They're taking a lot of defense
Speaker 1: of players in the first round. You gotta go back
Speaker 1: to Mark Deanchise and Dusty Keller over the last ten
Speaker 1: first round picks for offensive players. Well, I think it's Hey,
Speaker 1: it sounds like a cop out, but I think it's
Speaker 1: quarterback or defense. Like like, if you see a quarterback there,
Speaker 1: you thinking me the future your franchise, and I know
Speaker 1: they'll go through that process. I think Mr Rbisky can
Speaker 1: be your quarterback for the next ten years. You take
Speaker 1: um if you don't, you know, I think it's strength
Speaker 1: of the classes of defense. And so whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: a corner like a Latta Moore, whether it's a safety
Speaker 1: like Amali Cooker or Jamal add Only, whether it's I mean,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen probably doesn't doesn't slipt here, and I don't
Speaker 1: know that he'd be a fit because you're okay in
Speaker 1: the interior the defensive line. But um, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of good defensive talent up towards the top end of
Speaker 1: the draft, and so if you're not going to take
Speaker 1: a quarterback there it six. Overall, I think the value
Speaker 1: is gonna be somewhere on the defensive side of the
Speaker 1: h And lastly, Albert, what are you most looking forward
Speaker 1: to from mcagnan amples when they actually do talk to
Speaker 1: the media here, and I'm interesting to see how they
Speaker 1: addressed the quarterback situation. I'm interested to see how, you know,
Speaker 1: now having John Morton and Jeremy Bates in the house
Speaker 1: for a few weeks, I'm curious to see how they
Speaker 1: talk about Christian Hackenburg now, talk about Bryce Petty now,
Speaker 1: because they've now had a fresh set of eyes and
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, and so I'd be interested in
Speaker 1: hearing how they discussed the quarterback situation. The other thing,
Speaker 1: of course, and I think this is kind of an
Speaker 1: overarching thing just talking about rebuilding, you know, because they
Speaker 1: and they they inherited a team in ten that was
Speaker 1: in desperate need of a rebuild, and you know, they
Speaker 1: the whole competitive rebuild thing that that that term was
Speaker 1: nice when you put that layer of veteran players on
Speaker 1: top of what you had um you know already on
Speaker 1: the team. You know. The problem is is that you
Speaker 1: get a few injuries and the thing you can fall
Speaker 1: apart pretty quickly. And so I think that's the difference
Speaker 1: between fifteen and sixteen. And fifteen they stayed relatively healthy,
Speaker 1: a lot of their older players performed, and then in
Speaker 1: sixteen more injuries. You know, some of the older players
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff, and you know that puts you
Speaker 1: in the position where you were two years ago, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, still in need of a rebuild and now
Speaker 1: probably without the resources to make yourself a playoff team.
Speaker 1: In the short show, that's Albert Breer from Monday Morning
Speaker 1: Cornerback dot Com. You're doing torontous work there, uh, and
Speaker 1: we'll be following you the next story, Albert is gonna
Speaker 1: be covering not Joe Mixon, who is not here, but
Speaker 1: three the top college prospects are here. Continue Albert. It's
Speaker 1: Albert Brier from Monday Morning Quarterback dot Com. Of course,
Speaker 1: we are here in indian the two thousand and seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Combine underway or at the convention Center. We've been
Speaker 1: joined both by the New York posts Brian Costello and
Speaker 1: Albert Breer. Kim Jones from NFL Network will be on
Speaker 1: set momentarily. UH fans will be rolling through here in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: UH tomorrow to take part in this experience. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of displays forty yr dash vertical jump. UH. Folks
Speaker 1: can go through here, UH, go to the bench press
Speaker 1: or watch the guys that take part in all that.
Speaker 1: As far as the Jets are concerned, their interviews are
Speaker 1: under way UM here in Indianapolis, so they're talking to
Speaker 1: prospects at night. They have an opportunity to speak to
Speaker 1: sixty three thirty prospects here in Indianapolis formal interviews, but
Speaker 1: informal interviews are taking place as well. UH. The interview
Speaker 1: the medicals are very important here. But this is an
Speaker 1: opportunity for each team scouting staff to get with the
Speaker 1: player sent him down and get a chance to know
Speaker 1: him on a one on one, one on one basis
Speaker 1: UH here and then after the combine rap stop, the
Speaker 1: free agency is gonna be starting. The Jets have been
Speaker 1: very busy this offseason. We know that most recently they
Speaker 1: released Darrelle Revis, uh, Nick Mangold, Nick Folk, and Breno
Speaker 1: jack Amini. Mike mccagnan has repeatedly stated UH since the
Speaker 1: off season began that he wants to build this team
Speaker 1: through the draft. With that being said, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how this team approaches free agency now
Speaker 1: because they've cleared some money up UH obviously with the cap,
Speaker 1: so they got close to the thirty million dollars that's
Speaker 1: what the New York Post Brian Costello was reporting, UH
Speaker 1: close to thirty million UM, and we'll have to see
Speaker 1: how the Jets go about their business. One thing mcagnan
Speaker 1: did before the offseason actually began was he struck UH
Speaker 1: keeping Brian Winners off the market, resigning that veteran guards.
Speaker 1: So you're keeping Winners and James Carpenter together. I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the finer UH guard tandems in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Nick Mangold let go center seven time
Speaker 1: Pro bowler, but the Jets didn't like what they saw
Speaker 1: out of West Johnson last year, and then UH at
Speaker 1: the cornerback position, Darrell Rivas released interceptions a hundred twelve
Speaker 1: p ds for Rivus in his eight seasons with the
Speaker 1: New York Jets, two separate stints. Woody Johnson said, listen, UH,
Speaker 1: Durrell's home will always be with the New York Jets. Momentarily,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be joined by Kim Jones of NFL Network.
Speaker 1: Once again. We thank Brian Costello of the New York
Speaker 1: Posts and Albert Bier of Monday Morning Quarterback for joining us.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some Twitter questions right now. Rick Flair
Speaker 1: like that handle. Are the Jets overlooking Watson at six?
Speaker 1: Sure his accuracy is shaky, but he steps up when
Speaker 1: it matters. Uh, Rick Flair, I would say that I
Speaker 1: don't think the Jets are underlooking any buddy right now.
Speaker 1: They're gonna take a thorough uh evaluation of each prospect
Speaker 1: who us here and even the prospects who are not here.
Speaker 1: Albert Brier just talked about a guy like Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: who was not invited to the combine. There are a
Speaker 1: few players this year not invited into the combine. Um,
Speaker 1: but the Jets are gonna do all the due diligence
Speaker 1: on all the top quarterbacks in the draft, whether it
Speaker 1: be Deshaun Watson, Mitch Drabinsky from North Carolina to Shaun
Speaker 1: Keiser from North Carolina, um from Notre Dame. Is gonna
Speaker 1: be fascinating to see how the quarterback domino's actually fall
Speaker 1: uh this year for the Jets and the rest of
Speaker 1: the National Football League. Right now, two quarterbacks on the
Speaker 1: roster for the Jets, that is Christian Hackenberg, who was
Speaker 1: a second round pick, had a red shirt season for
Speaker 1: the Jets, and then Bryce Petty got a feat Watton
Speaker 1: the National Football League last year unfortunately torn labor in
Speaker 1: his left shoulders non throwing his shoulder. Both Geno Smith
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick on restricted free agents, so they'll be
Speaker 1: out there on the market, uh free agency. UM quarterbacks
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins will not be on the market. You just
Speaker 1: got franchise tag. The uh Rudskins just placed the franchise
Speaker 1: tag on Cousins. Mike Lennon gonna be animal. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be joined right now by Kim Jones. Is good to
Speaker 1: see you. How are you in the jet? So we
Speaker 1: are doing well. So what do you think about this
Speaker 1: set up here? Uh, in Indianapolis the Convention Center, because
Speaker 1: typically over the years we've been across the street at
Speaker 1: Lucas well. Yeah, well, change is difficult. Change is hard
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, you have to get your bearings. I
Speaker 1: have to see. I have to sneak up on people
Speaker 1: here because I need stuff on the players, the guys
Speaker 1: who are going to go through the drills Friday through
Speaker 1: Monday on NFL network. So I need opinions from coaches,
Speaker 1: GM's personnel guys. And I used to know where to
Speaker 1: find them at the other place. Now I have to
Speaker 1: kind of track them down a little bit hallway in here,
Speaker 1: but it's working out. It's working out, okay, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be through here uh Friday, yes, through
Speaker 1: a through the weekend. Well, and the bench press will
Speaker 1: be here, not over the stadium, which is different. And
Speaker 1: and and people will watch like fans will watch, So
Speaker 1: go figure it, right, um, Kim, that's very busy, this office,
Speaker 1: very busy. Yes, what do you make us? Some of
Speaker 1: the moves here, releasing prominent veterans of the guys who
Speaker 1: were going to be in the ring honor for this team,
Speaker 1: Darrell Reeves and Nick Mangold and then letting go also
Speaker 1: the number two scoring the franchise's history, and Nick Folk
Speaker 1: and Brendo Jacomini as well, and the list goes on, right.
Speaker 1: I just um and may they may not be finished. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll hear from Mike and Todd. I guess tomorrow now.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a rebuild. You know, the band
Speaker 1: aid effect. A lot of people try it. They tried it.
Speaker 1: They were this close to make in the playoffs two
Speaker 1: years ago, as you guys know, but um, it didn't work.
Speaker 1: And at time, at one point or another, you have
Speaker 1: to rebuild and that's what I feel like they're doing.
Speaker 1: It's a tough thing to admit. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if micro Todd will use that kind of language or
Speaker 1: that word exactly with us, but it seems pretty apparent,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. Mccag that said at the end of the season,
Speaker 1: and what Dos was clear about it too, that they
Speaker 1: want to build the seed through the draft. Yes, and
Speaker 1: they'll have an opportunity to do that. They have a first,
Speaker 1: a second, and two thirds. UM I have said, and
Speaker 1: I think it's uh, you know, certainly the way to
Speaker 1: go or the way to think. Mike mccagnan has to
Speaker 1: hit on those four picks. In my opinion, opening day,
Speaker 1: your first, second, and both third round picks need to
Speaker 1: be on the field because I think this is a
Speaker 1: roster where young players can grow. UM. I would like
Speaker 1: to think that Todd uh and his coaching staff, who
Speaker 1: let's let's be honest and he rebuilds tough for the coach.
Speaker 1: The GM can can manage it. It's tough a coaching staff,
Speaker 1: but I think Todd is the kind of guy that
Speaker 1: that will not bother I've talked to people here today
Speaker 1: who know Todd bowl is better than I and They
Speaker 1: all say Todd can handle anything you throw at They
Speaker 1: have great confidence in Todd bawls the men who've worked
Speaker 1: with him before exactly that it's not going to phase him.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be a week to week up
Speaker 1: and down kind of guy. But coach up these young players,
Speaker 1: get him on the field and let them grow that.
Speaker 1: That's that's the way you're gonna eventually build. And you know,
Speaker 1: by the time you build, maybe Tom Brady will decide
Speaker 1: to retire. You never know, Well, you've spent to Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about the Jets quarterback land
Speaker 1: escape right now? Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick heading to
Speaker 1: a free agency, Christian Hackenberg upensity products second round pick
Speaker 1: at a red shirt season, and then Bryce Petty last
Speaker 1: year we saw him in the National Football League for
Speaker 1: the first time. Unfortunately went down with the torn labor
Speaker 1: so he's coming off offseason shoulders surgery and he'll be
Speaker 1: back at some point. Yeah, you get the feeling they're
Speaker 1: gonna add to that mix. Of course, I mean they're
Speaker 1: not going to just have the two, so you feel
Speaker 1: like you'll they'll add to the mix, like two more
Speaker 1: for the off season and everything I'd like to see
Speaker 1: a three man competition, uh, whether it goes through training
Speaker 1: camp or not, whether it goes through the entire preseason
Speaker 1: or not, and just see who wins it. Petty will
Speaker 1: be part of it, Hackenburgh will be part of it,
Speaker 1: and then the unknown of who else will be part
Speaker 1: of it. But that's what I would like to see
Speaker 1: them do, really a competition best man wins and go
Speaker 1: forward from there. Do you see anything out there in
Speaker 1: free agency at this point that might make sense for
Speaker 1: the job? I mean, Mike Glennon is probably the easy answer.
Speaker 1: You know, none of us have really seen him at length, um,
Speaker 1: But Mike Glennon would be in free agency the one
Speaker 1: that guys you can trade for. I think we know
Speaker 1: the names. It's do you really want to give up
Speaker 1: picks if you're going to rebuild? What do you want
Speaker 1: to really give up to bring in a bridge guy?
Speaker 1: I think that's the question. So you look at free agency,
Speaker 1: A lot of the same names are out there every
Speaker 1: year or two, right, Um, But I guess Glennon would
Speaker 1: be the one, And it obviously depends on this price
Speaker 1: tag that you could bring in maybe a four year deal.
Speaker 1: That's really one of those NFL two year deals and
Speaker 1: see if he helps you get through. But I'm not
Speaker 1: going to act like an expert on Mike Lennon because
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sure who is out of Tampa Bay. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a small sample signs about of mine thirty
Speaker 1: touchdown passes with the Buccaneers, fifteen interceptions, and then Jamis
Speaker 1: Winson came in and he began the backup quarterback there. Um,
Speaker 1: do you think Christian Hackenberg can you can look at
Speaker 1: this as a little bit of a reset because he
Speaker 1: now he's got to have new coaches and then John
Speaker 1: Morton and Jeremy Base. Yeah, I would think so another
Speaker 1: reset for him. He's had a bunch of them. He's
Speaker 1: only twenty he just turned twenty two on Valentine's Day,
Speaker 1: I believe, and he's had a bunch of systems, a
Speaker 1: bunch of quarterbacks, coach, there is a bunch of offensive
Speaker 1: coordinators and head coaches. So yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1: I think. I don't think mental toughness is an issue
Speaker 1: with Christian. I don't think toughness is an issue with Christian.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he's working very hard this offseason
Speaker 1: on mechanics and that kind of thing. But listen, there's
Speaker 1: no reason he can't come in and compete this season.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need another red shirt season, he doesn't need
Speaker 1: to sit again. Automatically, I think that there's no reason
Speaker 1: he can't come in compete, and I would hope win
Speaker 1: the job. When you draft someone in the second round,
Speaker 1: you want them to very much be part of your program,
Speaker 1: not essentially sitting out. What are you hearing about some
Speaker 1: of the top college of quarterback prospects who are going
Speaker 1: to speak to the media here in India on Friday,
Speaker 1: And we know the top three names that you know,
Speaker 1: the people who seem to have varying opinions about are
Speaker 1: obviously Clemson said Deshaun Watson, North Carolina's risky, and then
Speaker 1: at Deshaun Kaiser on another Dame. And then we got
Speaker 1: a fourth guy, maybe edited that it makes I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it seems like a hot name out here is
Speaker 1: Patrick Yep. He is definitely an ascending guy on that list.
Speaker 1: He'll be a little bit different mechanically. It'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see these guys throw. But what I'm getting from
Speaker 1: the people I'm talking to here is a lot of
Speaker 1: what what we've been hearing whisper wise and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. You don't want one of these guys to
Speaker 1: have to come in and start for you. So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that how many of these guys would be
Speaker 1: automatically a first round pick in this draft. Some of them,
Speaker 1: maybe all of them, will be first round picks. That's
Speaker 1: just the way of the NFL. But this is a
Speaker 1: good year. I mentioned to someone here who does not
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. I said, is it a good year
Speaker 1: not to need a quarterback? And he smiled and said, yes, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: we want to see how it all plays out, and
Speaker 1: things can change quickly. After these guys would meet with
Speaker 1: UH teams. This week, the Jets will meet with sixty
Speaker 1: prospects UH of formal interviews. UH Kim Jones is gonna
Speaker 1: be covering everything for ENF on that. We're thank you
Speaker 1: so much for stopping by. And tomorrow, eight folks, you're
Speaker 1: in luck because we'll be alive again at noon and
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls and Mike mcagnant will go to UH the
Speaker 1: vodium and Kim will be covering that round off on
Speaker 1: network and we'll have you covered here on all these
Speaker 1: Jets platform