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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in and today to tell

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Speaker 1: them what today is? Well, today is of special bonus

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Speaker 1: episode of Scrubbing In because it is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by the new HBO Max Gossip Girl reboot. And can

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Speaker 1: I tell you what I love most about this? What?

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Speaker 1: It's something probably that I love the most and Becca

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Speaker 1: does not like the most about this. But I get

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Speaker 1: to see Becca in real life, touch her, nuzzle her

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Speaker 1: three days in a row. Okay, I don't think she

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Speaker 1: agre Yeah, like I did not give a consent to

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Speaker 1: good Um. I don't like when you act like I'm

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Speaker 1: not excited to see like this is a two way friendship.

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Speaker 1: I know, but I I could see you every day

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Speaker 1: all day. That's not true. That's true. Okay, Well on

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Speaker 1: that one. Now she's seeing in a different tune. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's true. What that she could see me

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Speaker 1: every day? No, she couldn't. She needs Robbie times, she

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Speaker 1: needs other friends time. I think she just means at

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Speaker 1: which I could probably do that, just not like hours

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Speaker 1: upon hours together. Um, I'll say my little notes that

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Speaker 1: you wrote on my birthday and just read those inever.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect. Um. Yeah, so we're doing this special episode

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Speaker 1: today and we I just watched they have released the

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Speaker 1: two first two episodes. Yes, so they're doing it kind

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Speaker 1: of like I would say retro at this point where

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Speaker 1: But you know, I've I've said this before. I love

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Speaker 1: only like I really don't enjoy that because people can

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Speaker 1: like actively, proactively avoid clicking on those stories. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I remember, I mean there's much work I just don't

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Speaker 1: So I am actually very appreciative of this, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that it continues this way because I as an

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Speaker 1: happen next week? And then you like hypothesize it builds

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Speaker 1: of very fine HBO Max programming, Mayor of East Town,

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Speaker 1: that were released weekly and you could like the your

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Speaker 1: And you know, I will say this, this podcast is

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Speaker 1: however non sponsored aside. I was having this conversation I

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Speaker 1: and it says, how is Gossip Girls similar or different

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Speaker 1: over that trusting Well, you know what I did want

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00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: to ask you though, because I always find this to

425
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: be very interesting because I always say I don't think

426
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: I could ever date an actor because A you have

427
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: to have like all these intimate scenes on set like

428
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: with other people, and I just don't think I could

429
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: watch that. Is it hard for you, Like do you

430
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: find yourself like in real life wanting to date and

431
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: other actors so they get it, like they understand what

432
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: you do? Or is it better do you prefer not? Um?

433
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: So he's really thinking about this. It's a hard question.

434
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: It's a hard person. I don't really know. I just

435
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: not really I don't really care to be honest. I think.

436
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like people that have been with thus far,

437
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: they've all like they have all got it, they've all

438
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: been in this industry in some capacities they do like

439
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: understand it. So I don't actually know what it's like

440
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: for someone not to get it, but I think, yeah,

441
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: it would be hard for to be with some it

442
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't understand, it doesn't get it because it's

443
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: a really really weird job. I mean, yeah, I'm based

444
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: in the Ark right now, but then I mean I'm

445
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: going to the d R for like a month in

446
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: a bit to shoot in September straight off to that

447
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: from this, and then I don't know where I'm gonna go,

448
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: right And yeah, I mean like being on set that

449
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: hours are weird. You finished really late, and then also

450
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: you have to like do all this stupid socializing and

451
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: networking as all. So yeah, I don't know, it's been socializing.

452
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I like socializing hard man. Jesus Christ, what's your sign? Yes?

453
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: I think I know it. Have you have you seen that?

454
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: Have you seen that meme where there's a text message

455
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: and there's a guy text and his mom and he says, mom, mom,

456
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: what time was I born? And she says She's not

457
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: the one for you. That's me. That mean is for me.

458
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Guess who I am? What do you think I would be?

459
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: If you say gemin I am hanging up right now.

460
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Everyone feels the same way about the Gemini. Yeah, Aquarius, No,

461
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess. Yeah, Taurus nailed it, Taurus, because I

462
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: looked you up to see all yours. I really I

463
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: could have gone on with that, but I was like,

464
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: Tanya is gonna be upset. It's gonna be upset for

465
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: the rest of the interview. If he said Gemini, gon,

466
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: hang up right now, that's funny thing. That's like a

467
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: thing and stuff. Oh yeah, I'm super seperate. Yeah to

468
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Actually you're really you're signed in My sign blend really

469
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: well together. And my sign and her sign blend really

470
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: well together. And she's my best friend. And you said

471
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: you can't do an actor. She has a boyfriend. You

472
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: have a boyfriend. But I also couldn't dan an actor. No, No,

473
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: I could never watch. I could never honestly, like, I

474
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: could not watch scenes of my significant other. Just like

475
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: sucking face with somebody else, even if it was like

476
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: his job, I don't think I could do it, even

477
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: like I leave, It would not be like, oh, what's

478
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna would be like I want you to suck my

479
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: face and my face only that's it. I have a

480
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: question because there are several scenes that are definitely I

481
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: mean I was saying before you got here, like it's

482
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: definitely not cable television anymore. Like we have definitely moved

483
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: past that in the reboot, um and you have. In

484
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: the first two episodes, there's been like multiple scenes with you.

485
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Are you do you do anything to prep like are

486
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: you like breath man, um, CBD anything? Oh, yeah, you've

487
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: got it, You've got it. Well, brush my teeth and

488
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: then I'll have like, god, I have actually these listening

489
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: stress Remember they used to be like a thing, like

490
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: a big thing, and well it's like come back now,

491
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: So I have them and just like be respectful and

492
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this show, Yeah, you're really

493
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: has anyone has Has everyone else been respectful of their breath? Yeah? Yeah,

494
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: everyone's been chilled, everyone's they've been okay. Yeah. Could you

495
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: imagine having a kissing scene like platosis. No, that's I'm

496
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: saying because it's so distracted, It would distracted some It

497
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: really takes you out of the scene, out of the

498
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: moment to be respectful. You don't like, I don't know,

499
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: like a salmon big yeah, and now I'm gonna get

500
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: it Like Tanya would just eat like a raw onion.

501
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: And then be like what giving your boyfriend raw? And

502
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: totally totally where do you see like do you see

503
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: yourself becoming a character because you're kind of like the

504
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: bad boy right now? Max is the bad boy so

505
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: far in the first two episodes. Do we get to

506
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: see like a softer side that you know, like you

507
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: start rooting for that character or does that not come

508
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: in this the episodes that you've filmed so far. Well,

509
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: the thing that I love so much about Max was like,

510
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: on face value, I always feel like Max is playing Max.

511
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, He's almost like playing a

512
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: character himself, which I kind of like got when I

513
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: was reading it, And so I definitely do try and

514
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: find those moments where he is himself. And I definitely

515
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: can find that when I'm with my dads and like

516
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: at home that can for sad. Can it comes down?

517
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: It's not for Sad, but he definitely just like play

518
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: into that and identity that he's kind of cultivated to himselves.

519
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, there are like softer moments, a lot of

520
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: softer moments, I will say, though, I do feel like

521
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: the whole kind of concept though, is that everyone in

522
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: that school and in that like circle is playing someone

523
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: else because that's like keeping up the images the whole.

524
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I feel like like teenagers do that though anyway. Yeah

525
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: there like yeah, but they're like they don't know themselves. Yeah,

526
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: and they're like very insecure. And this is like pure

527
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: fresh and especially now like thinking about like Instagram and

528
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: like imagine like growing up just having a constant comparison.

529
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, I feel like you can do that.

530
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: My teenagers do that anyway, but no, it's definitely a

531
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: lot more heightened in this world with money all that,

532
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So yeah, and it's interesting

533
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: in that it's fun and it makes fally sad to see,

534
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: Like I feel so sad for kids that are like

535
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: can and they have Instagram. I know because I was

536
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: I was actually saying earlier. I feel like when you're

537
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: in high school, even if you're like a good person,

538
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: you still are kind of you're not confident enough in

539
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: yourself to really stand up for what you believe in essentially,

540
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, if if stuff's going down,

541
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: like you're kind of you, you succumb to peer pressure more.

542
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: And I feel like I just can't even imagine what

543
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: it's like now with the bullying and all the stuff

544
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: they can go on. I had a friend, a friend's

545
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: little sister who's thirteen, asked her mom for lit filler

546
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I mean that's what they

547
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: they're on TikTok, like that's all they're seeing their want,

548
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: you know. It's like that's just kind of this world

549
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: of peer pressure and social media. I mean, I had

550
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: my Space, and I my main focus was getting my

551
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: background looking good and my plan, like the right song

552
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: for my mood. It was dramatic, like life House or something. Um.

553
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: I just I think the show kind of brings to

554
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: reality in a dramatic sized way kind of what teenagers

555
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: are dealing with in this generation and this time. Yeah,

556
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: and it's rough. Yeah God, I would never I could.

557
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean I'm tunny six, and I still find it

558
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: hard to like juggle social media and stuff because it's

559
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: just such it's like a it's like the wild West,

560
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Like Twitter is like an opening or a sylum, Like

561
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: it's just mental. People are just saying anything they want,

562
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's hard for you to be like

563
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: expressed and without backlash. And now you have to really

564
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: like be conscious of every possible feeling that you could

565
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: hurt because they've they might, they'll take out of context

566
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and put in their own, you know, and it's still

567
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: like and so it makes you like smaller and smaller

568
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: until you get to a point where like I only

569
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: go on Instagram like once a week, maybe when you

570
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: come out with a new episode, when like you know,

571
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: or are you going to do you go on social

572
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: media and look and see what people are saying or

573
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: do you try and avoid it? I avoid it, okay,

574
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: And I never read any reviews either, because like it's done.

575
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: I had an amazing time filming it. I hope people

576
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: enjoy it. If they don't, as you don't have to,

577
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to watch it, honestly, the promised guys

578
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: like if you don't like it to start off, you

579
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: don't have to watch it. And I think it's yeah,

580
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of productive. I think it's redundant.

581
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I will listen to like what the

582
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: notes or like even friends like giving me tips or

583
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: like not what they thought about this in terms of character.

584
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: But apart from that, I mean, hundreds of thousands of

585
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: people can jumping in giving your two science. I mean

586
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: it's it's confusing, and I can see it's point one.

587
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: It's so true. People feel very excited and entitled to

588
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: share their judgment and criticism. And well, did you see

589
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: what indress in dress Elba posted this week about social media?

590
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: He was like, um, celebrities all have to be Um,

591
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: what's the word they all get, you know, the what's

592
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: the word verified? Verified? With the blue check. Every user

593
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: on social media should have to be verified, like they

594
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: should have to have and they're like name or whatever

595
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: associated with an account, so that everybody's held accountable and

596
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: people can't be just spewing whatever they want anymore. And

597
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I was like, what a great idea. That is really

598
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: good idea, right, Yeah, so that the people with no

599
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: profile photo like flower Girl on Instagram is going to

600
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: be traced back to somebody that actually has an identity

601
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: and a driver's license. And then if you start trolling

602
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: people on your meme, guess what you get? Hell accountable,

603
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: a ticket for whatever flower girl is the Apple thrower. Alright,

604
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Thomas Doherty, Doherty, we are gonna let you go. We

605
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: really enjoyed having you in the o R. Truly, this

606
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: was a treat and you're so fun. Yeah, we are

607
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: rooting for you. I'm so. I was just saying before

608
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: you got on the before you came in, I was saying,

609
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: I love how they're releasing episode like episodes weekly because

610
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: I kind of missed that time of like waiting for

611
00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: new episodes. So I'm looking forward to the suspense. Thank you, guys.

612
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: This has been so fun. He's gonna get off and

613
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: be like what just happened? And I hope you guys

614
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: enjoying the rest of the show. Thank you. I mean,

615
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm very much hooked and into it, and I'm so

616
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: happy for you and happy that you're continuing your work

617
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: even after you finished Gossip Girl. Um, and thanks for

618
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: taking the time to hang out with this today. Yeah,

619
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: it was nice to rekindle. I know. I'll see you

620
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: again soon. Yeah, yeah, sounds good. I'll tell the girls

621
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: you said hi. Yeah, please do it. I will. All right, bye, Thomas,

622
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: all right. Are you surprised he remembered you? I am,

623
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: but you know what, I appreciate it. Good. Yeah, I

624
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: didn't mean a lot of people. It's been a couple

625
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: of years, you know. Yeah, I told you you're memorable.

626
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: He is to me, like, I get why he's able

627
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: to play mac so well, he definitely has the traits. Yeah, yeah,

628
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: all right, you guys. So we have someone very exciting

629
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: to talk to who basically revived the show for us.

630
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: We have Josh Saffron, who is the executive producer. He's

631
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: a writer, kind of does it all. Thank you for

632
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: being here, Thank you for having me, um so doing

633
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: my research. You were part of the original series, yes,

634
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like, was it your idea,

635
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: Like what was the process of being like, let's reboot this.

636
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Um Josh and Stephanie, who created the original came to

637
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: me and they had been they had been sort of

638
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: working on a way to redo it. They didn't have

639
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: an idea. They had just like sort of tried a

640
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: variety of things, and then they finally kind of hit

641
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: a wall and they said, if you have any ideas,

642
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: let's do this, and if you don't, we can all

643
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: sort of go our, you know, separate ways and not

644
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: do it. And I had an idea and I couldn't

645
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: like of the idea, and it just grew and grew

646
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: over the course of a weekend, and I told Stephanie

647
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: about and she's like, yeah, that's the idea. And then

648
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: that was that. So how like when at one point

649
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: after the original series finale did that, Like, did y'all

650
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: even start talking about that? So she they came. I

651
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: think they approached me the very end of twenty eighteen,

652
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: which was six years after the end of the original Um,

653
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: it might have it might have actually been trying to

654
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: remember it might have actually been the beginning of twenty nineteen.

655
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: But I was in the middle of doing another show

656
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: at the time, so my brain wasn't even in this.

657
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm not gonna do this' And then

658
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: I just couldn't let it go. And and frankly, even

659
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: if they had come to me three years after, I

660
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: probably would have been, like, there's some more we can

661
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: tell here. It's like it is a show you could

662
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: return to over and over again. There's a lot to

663
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: mine in this world. Um, and I just think it's

664
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: really fun. The idea that there might be many future Gospels. Also,

665
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: wasn't a dynamic like different on set with this cast

666
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: versus the original cast? Like does it feel different? I

667
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: mean it does. I think the primary reason that it

668
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: does is because the old show we did twenty five

669
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: episodes a year, is a full time year around we

670
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: also only had eight days to shoot those episodes in

671
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: and here we have twelve so episodes here they were

672
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: like a week and a half and here it's two

673
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: and a half weeks. So there's a little bit of

674
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: a more relaxed vibe on set for everybody because we

675
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: have more time. Whereas the old show they were getting

676
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: new scripts every five days they had to learn, and

677
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: the episodes were the same length. I mean, they're like

678
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: ten minutes longer, but it's not that marked of a difference.

679
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: So the back then, those actors were being thrown things

680
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: all the time, and like Serena killed somebody and choke

681
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Da develop a building, Like there were crazy things that

682
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: happened all the time and they only had eight days

683
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: to do them, and here not so many crazy things happened,

684
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: and they have a more leisurely time with it. So

685
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the real different. Um, it's just the workload.

686
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: And those were twelve hour days which often extended to

687
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: fortune how days, and on on the show we get ten

688
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: hour days, So there's just a little bit more of

689
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: a just a relaxed vibe just in the nature of production.

690
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Did you feel like, um when you like when you

691
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: say you had a story idea that felt like worth

692
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: reviving it. What was it the sister dynamic? What was that?

693
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: Do we not know that part yet? No, it was

694
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: the teachers. It was it was it was the of

695
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: us knowing who Gossip Girl was and that it's the teachers.

696
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Those two things were like, if we do it this way,

697
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: then then we're not retreading the old show. You are

698
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: there because you know, in the first one it was

699
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: the whole the whole time, we were trying to guess

700
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: who is Gossip Girl, and then at the end it

701
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: was revealed. And now it's kind of like we have

702
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: this heads up on who it is, But are there

703
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: twists around that again? Or is it straightforward? It's well,

704
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: it's straightforward excepting the twists that are around it. Is

705
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: that first time, you know, you didn't get to watch

706
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Dan do these terrible things. You didn't get to sit

707
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and watch him sit next to Serena as she opened

708
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 1: up her soul to him and secretly he was writing

709
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: everything down to post later and like destroy her life

710
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: and that's the girl that he's in love with. So

711
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: here the twists are watching Kate and the teachers gain information,

712
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: sometimes in a very precarious way, like the twists are.

713
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: For instance, Kate gets closer to Zoia once you're very

714
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: close to body and you are actually having to use

715
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: their information and destroy them, how does that weigh on you?

716
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: So it's there are the twists, but it's not like

717
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: who is gossip Girl? You know who gossipel is? That

718
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: brill is It's it's now The twists are what does

719
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: being gossip will do to you? Like? That's really the

720
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: big thing? Yeah? And was it more fun for you too?

721
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: Because since this is on HBO Max, you can be

722
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: a little more risky than the original when it was

723
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: on the c w W. Yeah. Well, weirdly, I think

724
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: in an odd way, I think we might have been

725
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: more risk in the c W. I mean, we can

726
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: show more here, but there we couldn't show anything, so

727
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: you'd have to intimate it all so like you, you

728
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: would write around it, like Chuck and Blair would be

729
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: having sex. You just could only show their faces. And

730
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: some of that made it feel even worse. You know,

731
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: we herder Now you show everything, and I think that

732
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: what we are doing this time around is you know,

733
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: so nothing is gratuitous, we really are. It's always a

734
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: character moment. There's always something really going on there, you know,

735
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: like the idea of you know, if if Emily plays

736
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Gree and Avenue was playing Ocy, if they have a

737
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: love scene after they've both cheated on each other, and

738
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: you're watching that love scene, the love they do things

739
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: in that love scene that revealed to each other they

740
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: cheated on each other, Like that's that's the story point

741
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: happen as opposed to just a sex scene for sex scene.

742
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: Have you heard from any of the o G cast

743
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: members about this new the new reboot, Like, have you

744
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: gotten any feedback or have they reached out to you

745
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: the I think Josh and Stephanie you know, probably have

746
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: been in touch with them. I mean I'm not. I've

747
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: gone on to do several other shows and time has passed,

748
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: and like if I bump into somebody, like I'll say

749
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: hi to them, but I'm I would say there are

750
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: supporting cast members who I am in touch with more um,

751
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: some of who may or may not make appearances on

752
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: this version of the show very soon. In fact, tomorrow

753
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: we are shooting a scene with many supporting characters from

754
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: the original show, which is really fascinating. Uh, And I

755
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: can't tell you who they are, but so I think

756
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: that I think it's more of that. For me, it's

757
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: not this series writuls. Did you find like when you

758
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: were casting for this one? Did you? Because as I

759
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: was watching, even though there's differences and all the characters,

760
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: I found myself going, well, that's the comparing bass of

761
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of feeling the same, uh, the

762
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: same feeling watching these characters that I did in the original,

763
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: But there's always this difference, like we we just talked

764
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: to Thomas and you know, he's pant sexual in the show,

765
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: and so it's very he has a very chuck bass energy,

766
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: but there's this twist to him. And did you intentionally

767
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: do that with the characters? I did. I actually did

768
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: it unintentionally and I started writing them. I was like,

769
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that they're not like the

770
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: original because it shouldn't be the same show because those

771
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: characters are so beloved and Blair is Blair. Don't try

772
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: to make a new Blair. Chuck is Truck. Don't trying

773
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: to make a new Truck. As I was writing it,

774
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, why are these Why does Audrey

775
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 1: feel a little like Blair ride? Why back a little

776
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: like Chuck and Stephanie, and Stephanie was like because Cecily,

777
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: who wrote the books, did her research and the archetypes

778
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: that exist in these schools, and I went to private

779
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: school on the Upper East Side, I also know these people,

780
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: those types of this, and so there would be a

781
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: version of a Chuck at any time that you would

782
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: check in on the story. So Max is a version

783
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: of a Chuck, just like Chuck is a version of

784
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: an Oscar Wild character from the twenties. You know, that's

785
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: just the DNA is there. So the differences are, like

786
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: you said, his sexuality is different. Chuck didn't the boundaries

787
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: that was part of Chuck's issues, and Max has very

788
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: clearly defined boundaries. You know, there's just like little changes.

789
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's also like Thomas plays, you know, I

790
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: think Max maybe enjoys. I think Chucking a lot of

791
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: darkness and was resting with a lot of demons. I

792
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: don't think Max is a lot of demons. So like

793
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: it's still the same sort of like fun guy who's

794
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: up for anything, but he's a little lighter this time around.

795
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: I guess, Okay, I'm really fascinated by the fact that

796
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: you went to private school and Upper Upper West Side

797
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: because in my mind, I watched the show and I

798
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: can't be real and obviously it's a TV show, so

799
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: there's added elements format size. Good job we've talked about

800
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: we just taught her that word just excited New Order earlier.

801
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: But like, was it is that kind of how it was?

802
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: Like did you experience those types of things? I mean,

803
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm so old, we're talking about so long ago, but

804
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: I uh, I mean, I mean yeah, kind of like

805
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look, did like I said, did anyone killing

806
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: youone to anyone's father fall out of the building, Did

807
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: anyone like Mary, you know, the Prince of Monica. No,

808
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: But I went to when I was at high school,

809
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: when I was a freshman, like Grouper Murdock's Son's word,

810
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: seniors like they went to school like I. So I

811
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: was around the world of wealth and privilege and I

812
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: was not a part of that world. I was one

813
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: of the damn sort of uh and the first time

814
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: around and gossip girl like that's who identified with right

815
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: um and where I was sort of identified with Zoia

816
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: the most at identified with all of them obviously because

817
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I created them, But I mean, it was it was

818
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: a crazy world to be in. But I mean New York.

819
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: Growing up in New York is a crazy place. It

820
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: still is now. It doesn't make a difference of when

821
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: it is. It's just you are in the biggest city

822
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: in America that it has the closest routes to other countries,

823
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: and so you're just feel half in and half out.

824
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's a very weird thing. I think

825
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: that hasn't changed. I watched my friends with kids, and

826
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: I watched their kids navigating this world. Like, for instance,

827
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: when I reached out to when my close friends as

828
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: daughters went to chapin and she, I was like, what's

829
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: happening now, because I like right and everything she told

830
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: me it was pretty much the same. So yeah, but

831
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: it was glad to get it from her. But yeah,

832
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty much. Well that's what we're talking about to

833
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: Thomas about like it's although it is so dramatic, there

834
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: is like there's this new added level of pressure peer

835
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: pressure with social media and trying to keep up and

836
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: be cool and like fit in. And I feel like

837
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: more than ever, it's this like insane world of reality verse,

838
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: this idea of what's supposed to be like and it's scary. Yeah,

839
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: it really is. I mean, like I love about that

840
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: in the writer's room. That Like even then, the first show,

841
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: gossip Girl was just exposing you walked Serena walked through

842
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: the world and was Serena, and Gossip Girl was like,

843
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: let me actually show everybody who you really are. The

844
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: new layer is Julian walks the world as a constructive

845
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Julian because she's an influencer. So gossip Girl is like,

846
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: let me show you how the construct isn't real, and

847
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: then also let me show you how the real you

848
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: isn't real. There's like two layers we are. We are

849
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: on social there is our social media selves and there

850
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: are there's ourselves. And the first there was not that

851
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: second layer. And so it's really interesting to watch that now,

852
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: like that's an extra thing to play with and for

853
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: gossip Girl because it's not enough just to puncture the

854
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: social media bubble. She's coming after who you really are

855
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: as well. So that's I think of coming up maybe

856
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: so well, speaking of social media, and I'm asking you

857
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: this as like a creative because you're you're creative person.

858
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: You're creating characters, you're creating storyline constantly and then you

859
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: you make it and then it goes out to the world.

860
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: Do you go on social media to see what people

861
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: are saying or do you not want to see it

862
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: because it doesn't you don't want it to mess with

863
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: your creativity. Oh no, I need to see it. I

864
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: know I shouldn't it burns me all the time, hasn't

865
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: kno gonna what. It hasn't burned me on this show

866
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: yet because the audience really is accepting the show and

867
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: having really great conversations. But I think it's very important,

868
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: especially on a show like this that deals with social media,

869
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: but be with younger people to actually see where what

870
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: is how is this affecting them? How is this being

871
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: taken if I was doing When I was doing Quantico,

872
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: I didn't care so much about what people on social

873
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: media were saying, meaning I want to see what they

874
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: thought of the show, But I wasn't looking about whether

875
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: they thought it was reflecting their lives, because how many

876
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: people are on Twitter who are people of color and

877
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: the FBI that's just not I wasn't seeing bad I

878
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: was seeing their enjoyment of the show. But here the

879
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: show is representing a sect of the population that is

880
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: on social media and that does see themselves as these characters,

881
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: and I am curious if they feel that it's accurate

882
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: and if it's reflecting them properly. There there was a

883
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: scene where they Julian is talking about how she's losing

884
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: followers and her friends go, well, Olivia Jade's mom went

885
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: to pay the game followers, and Olivia Jade actually posted

886
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: a TikTok and she goes and she like showed the

887
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: scene and goes, no, I didn't, and is that your line?

888
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: I have my My experience when I wrote that was

889
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: I remember doing research and seeing that somewhere. But I

890
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: will believe Olivia Jade over whatever research I read in

891
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: Hello magazine what I wrote it on Hello Magazine. So

892
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: I apologize online to Olivia Jade. I said it was

893
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: my fault you couldn't thrive, you know, Yeah, it was

894
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: meant to lovely mentioned not a bad mention. Yeah. When

895
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: I because I saw I actually saw her TikTok before

896
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: I watched the first two episodes, and I was like

897
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: laughing out loud because she didn't. It seemed like she

898
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, there's there's there's some jokes about

899
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: targets that people might be sensitive about because the character.

900
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: My whole thing is what will the character, what would

901
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: the character say? I mean, not every character is to

902
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: be good money says stuff that, like other people would

903
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: never say. That's what Monai does, and so there's some

904
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: target she goes after that. Who knows. I don't know

905
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but I'm just saying it's it's

906
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: not me. That's so fun. I love, like it would

907
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: be so fun to be a writer and just kind

908
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: of be able to do whatever you want and be like,

909
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: it was a character, not me. I did. I did.

910
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: There was a joke at one point that I put

911
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: in about Prianka, who's a friend of mine, but it

912
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: was not it was it was a positive mention because

913
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, because of course I love Prianka, and then

914
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: I was and then I was watching it in the

915
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: day and I was like, somebody could misconstrue this and

916
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: not think it's positive. So I cut it. And the

917
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: thing that caught me a lesson because obviously there are

918
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: probably other people I don't know where the jokes are meant,

919
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: like Olivi j and the jokes meant positively, but maybe

920
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: they could take it negatively. So it's a. It has

921
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: reshaped my brain a little because thinking about a friend

922
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: of mine, I'm like, oh, that could be misconstrued, And

923
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: then like when I should think about all of these

924
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: as if they were friends of mine, and it could

925
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: be misconstrued, but then you missed the fun. So like balance,

926
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: It is a tricky balance, I think, especially right now

927
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: because everybody's super like hyper sensitive to like everything. So

928
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes you can make a joke and

929
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: it's really innocent and then it, yeah, it gets misconstrued

930
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: and then like m it's got some girl they have

931
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, yeah, I mean it would like the

932
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: kind of like the nuance is nuance the right word? Well,

933
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean the rest of the sentence that

934
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: like how you make it very like making very current,

935
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: like it feels very much in the now, like everything

936
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: that we're dealing with we're going through, it just feels

937
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, that was I mean, thank you, and

938
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: that's the hope. I mean, it's really especially since most

939
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: of the script are written like a year and a

940
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: half ago. It's crazy to me that they're still like

941
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: in the moment and back today. They just shot a joke.

942
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: There was a joke about a scandal that was like

943
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: eight months ago. When the script is written, I was like,

944
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: oh no, so quickly myself and the writer that's on set,

945
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: like one, are the scandals right now that they can

946
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: be referencing. We're like, we're like, okay, this, this, this,

947
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: and we changed it. But it's like sometimes you have

948
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: to do that just to stay in the moment. And

949
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: the cast is so on social media and they know everything,

950
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: so I could just really easily turn to like Zion

951
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: and be like is this in the moment and she'll

952
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: be like no, and I'm like, okay, Well, I was

953
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: gonna say. Also, it's it's cool to see like such

954
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: a diverse cast too, and not only because I remember

955
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: on the original when Eric was gay and that whole

956
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: storyline was coming, it was a big deal. It is

957
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: like this, like oh my gosh, like they're including this,

958
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: and it felt like very almost like ahead of our

959
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: times at the at the time. And it's cool now

960
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: to see like so many different personalities, so many people

961
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: from different backgrounds, and um, it was that, I mean

962
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: obviously a very important aspect of casting, I imagine totally.

963
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I I kind of felt like the first show,

964
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, which I didn't create, but but it was

965
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: based on a book series and those characters were in

966
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: the book. So all of those characters existed in those

967
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: books and how they were described in the books as

968
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: who they were like. Even the cover of the books

969
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: looks like sort of the actors, even they can't see

970
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: their faces, it kind of looks like the actors that

971
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: you see on the show. These characters are all new,

972
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: and so because they are on the books and they

973
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: were fully invented, it allowed me to sort of look

974
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: at the world to reflect the world that exists, and

975
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: that was really important to me. I've I've never you know,

976
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: created a show without sort of people of color is

977
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: the leads. And that's again, I grew up in New

978
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: York City. I'm New York City, I live in Brooklyn.

979
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: I live in this world. I got. My friends go

980
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: to private school, their kids go to private school. And

981
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that we are always

982
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: putting forward the world as we see it and not

983
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: a world that's been sort of things are raised. So

984
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: it's not a very delicate, it's an indelicate way of

985
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: saying it, but it's very important to me. And so

986
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: in terms of casting you know all of the characters,

987
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're who they were was designed on

988
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: the page, and then Cassandra, my casting director, just went

989
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: out and found the best gass that I could have

990
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: ever imagined, every single one of them. I mean, like,

991
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: Thomas is funny. You just talked to Thomas. It's like

992
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: every day when Thomas shows up, I'm like, what's gonna

993
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: happen today? Thomas is so I love Thomas so much.

994
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: He's so you just he surprises me constantly and it's

995
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: always right. So it's it's weird. It's like that weird

996
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: thing where like you write the character and you hope

997
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: for the best he hopes to get into and then

998
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: he comes in and he puts a spin on it.

999
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: It's like left of what I thought and totally correct.

1000
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: So it's like, sorry, I'm glad you guys got to stuck. Well, no,

1001
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's just he was. We we giggled a lot.

1002
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: But I'm like rooting for the Sister Dynamic, and I

1003
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: just I find the character so um like, I'm very

1004
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: interested in what's happening, and I'm so glad that these

1005
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: episodes are being released week by week instead of all

1006
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: at once because I like the excitement of having to wait,

1007
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: I mean too was very They asked me what I wanted,

1008
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: and I really wanted that because the original show really

1009
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: worked in those seven days in between where the audience

1010
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: could talk and engage. It's built to actually carry you

1011
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: to the next one. Mr Dynamic goes to some crazy places.

1012
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: In fact, the episode airing tomorrow, really there's a big

1013
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: there's a big thing that happens at the end of

1014
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: the episode, and then there's a lot of stuff that

1015
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: happened in the next episode. It's it's probably one of

1016
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: my I said, it's like the second favorite of mine

1017
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: in the first six going aeron Borrow, especially because of

1018
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: what happens to the sisters at the end of it.

1019
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: So that's it's you said, it's one of your vords

1020
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: that you have done. Really, Yeah, it feels the most,

1021
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: I'd say, of the first six, it feels the most. No,

1022
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the next episodes three and four feel the most like

1023
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: the old show. Yeah, and you are right, because I

1024
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: feel like we we definitely don't have that anymore in

1025
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: terms of television, where it's like you can hypothesize and

1026
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: like guess with your friends, like what's going on, whereas

1027
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: like now when you binge stuff, it's just like the

1028
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: answers there, you just have to google it totally totally.

1029
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: And I and for me with some of some shows,

1030
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: I want to binge like it's a murder mystery, like

1031
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: I want to find out for this I want to

1032
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: like I just want to like wonder what's gonna happen.

1033
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: And that's at least for me, So like I'm not

1034
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: against binging, but I think also this show so much

1035
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: happens every episode, and it's so fast. If you were

1036
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: you just wouldn't even catch at all because you have

1037
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: to you know, it's every week. You can be like, Okay,

1038
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really pay attention to Max right now and

1039
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: see what's gonna happen to the Max. That's what at

1040
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode I was saying, like, I

1041
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: I feel like when there's a lot happening in a show,

1042
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: I need to be locked in. And sometimes when I'm binging,

1043
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: I like check out and I'll get on my phone,

1044
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: and it's like sometimes you just can't do that with

1045
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: certain shows. So I feel that way. Um, so, how

1046
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: many episodes do you all have left? It? Like your

1047
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: film is that what you're filming right now. We're filming.

1048
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: We're filmiling episodes ten out of twelve right now. Almost there.

1049
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's so crazy. I mean because especially as

1050
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: we started doing the last October, so it feels like

1051
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: it's just been a year. Um. The show is very big,

1052
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: and we're like I said, all these original cast members

1053
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: supporting cast members are coming back tomorrow, so it's gonna

1054
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: be fun. We have like four returning gast members tomorrow,

1055
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: all the one scene, and I'm very excited for that

1056
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen them. Can you tell us what

1057
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Speaker 1: their names rhyme with? What I can tell you is

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Speaker 1: they all know each other, so I thought, meaning meaning

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Speaker 1: it's a group of people that travel as a group.

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Speaker 1: That's the best way I can put You want people

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Speaker 1: to guess it. That was a conclude that you can guess,

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Speaker 1: but you actually couldn't get through. That almost threw me

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Speaker 1: off more because I of the idea of how this

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Speaker 1: cast will interact with that, Like I'm very excited. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: episode five, there's a returning cast member. It's the first

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Speaker 1: returning cast member from the original show. We shot that already,

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Speaker 1: and watching them interact with our cast, was it was

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Speaker 1: only one person, but still it was like this interesting

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Speaker 1: sliding doors, right, because it's like where this person is

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Speaker 1: now and so so now we're upping the enemy tomorrow

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Speaker 1: be four of them. So maybe in season two, if

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Speaker 1: there's a season two, they'll be twelve of them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love the I love all the little nods to

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Speaker 1: the old cast. I love that Kristen Bell is the

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Speaker 1: voice still. I guess she's pretty iconic. Yeah, yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: the best, and without her there would be no show.

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Speaker 1: You just you hear that voice, and yeah, it takes

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Speaker 1: you back, It really does. Chilled. She's back. Well, you're awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love your energy. So congratulations on everything and continued success.

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Speaker 1: You can definitely come back and let us know when

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Speaker 1: the old cast members returned. Definitely definitely what you know,

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Speaker 1: go enjoy your snacks, right. I liked he was very

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Speaker 1: just like he was very scrubbing in like energy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: scrubbing in energy for sure, excited to talk about it, funny, yeah, passionate, exhilarated.

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Speaker 1: I I just I'm so fat like people who are. Um.

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Speaker 1: I love that he was part of the original show

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Speaker 1: because I think even though it's different and then there's

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Speaker 1: like this new element to it, you still feel kind

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Speaker 1: of that same, uh nostalgia. Yeah, and it's it's like

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Speaker 1: kind of restored in this new one. So it's cool.

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Speaker 1: I like that he's a part of the new one too,

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Speaker 1: and I just like him do. Yeah, we could have

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Speaker 1: him as a Mantel guest. I hadn't said it. He

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Speaker 1: sounds really busy. He was like like, shoot some more shows. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's like a film gona hang out Frianca. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: a busy, busy man. It is funny though, because all

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Speaker 1: this time I think it would be so cool to

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Speaker 1: talk to someone who grew up on the Upper Upper

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Speaker 1: east Side, Upper west Side, but he said he went

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Speaker 1: Upper west Side. I think, oh, I don't know, you're

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Speaker 1: talking to a California native. So anyways, I thought like

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Speaker 1: it would be so cool to talk to someone who

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Speaker 1: experienced that to ask. Obviously it's not like that, but

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Speaker 1: but it is to see kind of with the group,

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Speaker 1: the class levels and all that stuff too. But um,

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Speaker 1: thank you all for hanging out with us and listening

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Speaker 1: to today's special podcast. I hope that you immediately go

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Speaker 1: and watch the first two episodes of Gossip Girl on

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Speaker 1: HBO Max and don't forget, gossip Girl has brand new

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Speaker 1: episodes on HBO Max every Thursday, so mark your calendars.

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Speaker 1: Thursday Blurs Day with gossip Girl. What is Blursday like?

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Speaker 1: You know, have a little cocktail, get a little blur.

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Speaker 1: You pulled that out of her. Thank you all for

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Speaker 1: listening and we'll talk to you next week. XO XO