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Welcome to the Therapy 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly conversation about mental health, 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: personal development, and all the small decisions we can make 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: to become the best possible versions of ourselves. I'm your host, 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Dr Joy hard and Bradford, a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: For more information or to find a therapist in your area, 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: visit our website at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: While I hope you love listening to and learning from 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: the podcast, it is not meant to be a substitute 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: for a relationship with a licensed mental health professional. Hey y'all, 18 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me for session one of 19 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. For many of us 20 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: with kids in the home. The decision around schooling may 21 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: be looking very different this year. Many of you have 22 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: shared interest in homeschooling, but have been uncertain about where 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: to start. So I wanted to create some space here 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast for us at least start the conversation. Today, 25 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: we're joined again by Dr Christie Christopher Holloway, who you 26 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: may remember from session seventy six when she joined us 27 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: to chat about pregnancy and postpartum concerns. Well, he's back 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: this time to talk about her journey homeschooling her twins 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: and sharing some information for you to consider. Dr Christopher 30 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Holloway is an adjunct professor and the founder and director 31 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: of New Vision Counseling Center, a group private practice in Douglasville, 32 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: Georgia that offers affordable outpatient mental health counseling. She's a 33 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: licensed professional counselor in Georgia, a National Certified Counselor, a 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Distance credential counselor, and an approved clinical supervisor. She has 35 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: worked in settings that include private practice, in home, outpatient 36 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: and residential treatment. She and I discussed how her family 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: made the decision to homeschool. Where to start when thinking 38 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: about a curriculum for your kids misconceptions about home schooling 39 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: and socialization, and she shared all of her favorite resources 40 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: for those wanting to learn more. If something resonates with 41 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: you while enjoying our conversation, please be sure to share 42 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: with us on social media using the hashtag tb G 43 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: in Session. Here's our conversation. Thank you so much for 44 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: joining us again. Dr Christopher Halloween. Thank you so much 45 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: for having me again. This is like the honor. The 46 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: honors of the honors created a word. I'm just thrilled 47 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: that you could join us again. You are also ENJOYGIA. 48 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: So I know you kind of through Facebook, and I 49 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: don't think we've had the chance to actually meet in 50 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: person yet, but I feel like I knew you and 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about your family just from being friends 52 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: on Facebook. And I want to hear a little bit 53 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: about your homeschooling journey because you were homeschooling even before 54 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the pandemic. I was homeschooling for the pandem And I 55 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: will say we've met at I think a C A 56 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: or something. Yes, because you're right years ago. Uh, we're 57 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: right to connect. Absolutely, You're right. So my homeschool journey though, 58 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: as you know, I have twin boys that will that 59 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: are almost six and they will tell you their birthday 60 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: if they were any here, but almost six years old. 61 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: So we are now in our third year of home schooling, 62 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: So that means we were doing this way before COVID 63 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: decided to come in here and be real disrespectful so 64 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: take over. So we are in our third year. The 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: boys are in first grade just because of their level 66 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: their knowledge, you know, the skills and things like that 67 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: that they have, so they are actually in first grade 68 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: and not kindergarten. And I can talk about that more 69 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: if you want me to, as we kind of go 70 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: along and how we made that decision. But we started 71 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: with them pre kish and then all the way up 72 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: to where we are now. We had a short turn 73 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: where we did try like outside and did like part 74 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: time Monto story school outside of the home. But we 75 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: decided to bring them back into the home probably about 76 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: six to eight months into that, probably about six months actually, 77 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: so for the most part they have been home kicking 78 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: it with me. Yeah, and I think you have always 79 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: been working at least part time, correct, while you've been 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: homeschooling actually full time. Yeah. Yeah. I have a private 81 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: practice located in Douglasville, Georgia. And so although I do 82 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: not see clients every day of the week, you know 83 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: how it is like managing a practice clients. It's a 84 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: group private practice. So just making sure the ins and 85 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: outs of the practice are good, and going making sure 86 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: my staff are good, the clinicians who are also making 87 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: sure they're good as well, and handling all of that 88 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: day to day stuff that goes on with that. And 89 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: then what is this now almost two years into if 90 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: I've also been an assistant professor in an online department 91 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: for a college. Yeah, it's a lot going on. Yes, 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: So did you know, and if you feel comfortable sharing, 93 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: did you know that you were going to homeschool even 94 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: before your twins got here? So it's always been a 95 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: desire of mine. Wasn't too sure what that would look like. 96 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: My husband's an educator, and as we both say, look 97 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: we came up through the public school systems and we're 98 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: great look at us type, and so it was something 99 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: that he and I talked about what we wanted the 100 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: education for our children to look like and if that 101 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: could happen in the various settings that were made available 102 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: to them outside of our home. At the beginning. I 103 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: didn't know what that would look like, how long we 104 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: would be doing it. I just knew I kind of 105 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't want them in like the daycare or preschool setting 106 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: at that time, and so we just really started doing 107 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: everything at home with them. And then we said, you know, 108 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: let's do kindergarten. Let's take it through that, and that's 109 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: what we did and not like I said there in 110 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: the first grade, and so we just say we're gonna 111 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: do it as long as it works for our family. 112 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: The boys have never really expressed an interest or asked 113 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: to go to outside school. I don't want to say 114 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: real school, because all of it is real school when 115 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: you're teaching, regardless of you decide to do public, private, 116 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: home or whatever world schooling. But they haven't expressed the desire. 117 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: The most that they did, probably about two years ago, 118 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: is they wanted to ride a school bus. Most kids 119 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: are like, oh, bus, but yeah, So we didn't know 120 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: what that was going to look like in the beginning. 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: But we've been very, very pleased with the decision to 122 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: start it and to still be sticking with it. Got it. 123 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: And so now that we are in the midst of 124 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I do think that this is something that 125 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: other parents are maybe considering even more than maybe they 126 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: were before. And so I'm wondering if you can just 127 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: share like where someone might even start to home school, 128 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: because I know that there are still things you have 129 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: to do, like with the state, and I'm thinking it's 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: probably different for each state. But where would someone even 131 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: get started in, you know, making sure that they're taking 132 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the right steps to home school their kids. Actually, that 133 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: is going to be the first step, looking to see 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: what the requirements are for their states. Some states are 135 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: very relaxed, some states are kind of very strenuous and 136 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of requirements, and some states are kind 137 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: of in between of what they require. So, for example, 138 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: here in Georgia, all you need to do is just 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: submit your declaration of intent, letting the Department of Education 140 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: know that you have your child, you are educating them, 141 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: and that's really it. They don't ask what my education 142 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: level is, they don't ask what's my curriculum or what 143 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: will be learning. They do ask like the start and 144 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: end of my school term or semester of things like that, 145 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and just the age of the kids. So the first 146 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: place that you want to start is really going to 147 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: your state's department of Education and seeing what the requirements 148 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: are to home school, because you don't want to put 149 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: yourself in a situation where you have not filed the 150 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: correct paperwork or you did not know, you know, for 151 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: a particular degree or you know particular education level was needed, 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and so then you don't want if you ever do 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: decide to put your children in a public or private 154 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: or outside school setting, you don't want them to be 155 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: behind because maybe it was something that you did not follow. 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: So that's going to be the first place to start. 157 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: And then from there, look, I am all about free 158 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: and low cost resources, So I say, you know, start 159 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: looking at you know, Google, free home school deals or 160 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: free homeschooling forms or papers or what does a first 161 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: grader or a kindergartener, a second grader need to know? 162 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: World school because world school dot com is another great 163 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: place to look, because that literally tells you based on 164 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: um certain standards that are typically general across states. You know, 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: it's telling you kind of what needs to be taught 166 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: at that level and what needs to be focused on. 167 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: So that way, it kind of gives you a starting 168 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: point or a guiding point. And then I always encourage folks. 169 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: From there you can start looking into me maybe you 170 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: want a particular curriculum or things like that, or you 171 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: may want to piece something together and pull from here 172 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: and there using your library. That is a great, great 173 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: resource and again a free resource. And then definitely if 174 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: you can getting someone that can kind of mentor you 175 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: or at least that's been homeschooling and kind of answer 176 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: some questions for you as you're kind of going along 177 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: this journey, don't do it by yourself because there's gonna 178 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: be a lot of things that you may just not know. 179 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Or again, why reinvent the will of someone has already 180 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: kind of started that will for you in that process 181 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: for you, and people are a lot of times bearing 182 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: open to sharing what's worked, what has not worked, or 183 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: at least consulting with you. So those are my starting 184 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: points that I would recommend someone that is interested in 185 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: getting into homeschooling to do. And are there particular curriculums 186 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: that you can follow or and I know you've done 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,359 Speaker 1: a lot of kind of just developing your own curriculum 188 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: for your boys, but are there other curriculums that people 189 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: can either buy or you know, kind of get help 190 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: with If they're looking for something kind of ready built. 191 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, Oh my gosh. There are so many and 192 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,359 Speaker 1: this is why it can become overwhelming for folks because 193 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: they don't really know where to begin. There's like do 194 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: I do Rebecca? Do I do Charlotte Mason? Do I 195 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: do World schooling? You know? Like what do I do 196 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: in this? And so sometimes people will say like this 197 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: is just too much. I don't want to do this. 198 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to sit here and learn all about 199 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: the months of story method. I don't want to learn 200 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: about classical conversations, you know, and all of this and that. 201 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: So there are ones that people can use. And again 202 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: they can google homeschool Curriculu for you know, science or 203 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: from math, and they can do it based on grade level. 204 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Some curricula come with where it will literally have the 205 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: full curriculum for every subject. So for instance, a Becca 206 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: has a Beck of math, science, language, arts, geography, history, 207 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: depending on what your child, their ages, their grade level, 208 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and what it is that they're learning. Some people like 209 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: that because they feel like it's the one stop shop. 210 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: Everything is here. I can get this book and I 211 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: can keep it moving. Other people like myself and others 212 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: that I know For instance, they may like a beck 213 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: of science, but they may not like a beck of math, 214 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: and so they may choose to do a different math curriculum. 215 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Or they may like it for kindergarten in first grade, 216 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: but they may not like it for second and third grade. 217 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: They may choose to do math, you see, or what 218 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: are we doing horizons math? You know? So it's so 219 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: many different options. Before a person decides to choose and 220 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: get a full set curriculum, I encourage them to kind 221 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: of look over it and see if it's going to 222 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: teach your children that mastery skill that they need. So 223 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: you may be starting math and you have a particular 224 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: curriculum and you like it, but it may not be 225 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: setting them up for second grade math. Right, So, like 226 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: what we're doing now, although my boys are five almost six, 227 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: some of the things that they're doing in math is 228 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: already setting them up for multiplication. And you're thinking like, 229 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: huh already And the answer is yes. So if you 230 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: have something that you're going by and it does not 231 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: give your child that standard and that knowledge that they 232 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: need for their current grade level as well as getting 233 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: ready to prepare them for that next grade or silver grades, 234 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: then you may kind of want to look at that. 235 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: But if you bought this whole curriculum, now you're like 236 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: stuck with it, right, doesn't mean that you have to 237 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: use it, Which is why I love the flexibility of 238 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: homeschool because I can say this doesn't really work for us, 239 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: or the boys have kind of went through that so quickly, 240 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: let me buff it up a little. And I'd like 241 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: to be able to do that and to challenge them. 242 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: So I just again tell people, look around, you know, 243 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: ask someone, hey, you were doing kindergarten, what did you like, 244 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: what did you did not like in this curriculum? And 245 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: then also giving the assessments that they may have in 246 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: certain books to say, you know what, yep, your child 247 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: is ready to move to the next level if they 248 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: can do this, or let's keep them right here, maybe 249 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: like on this primer level instead of moving up, so 250 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: that we can make sure that they have the knowledge 251 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: that's going to prepare them and help them feel successful 252 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: as they're learning that information. So that was my next 253 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: question because I find myself getting overwhelmed just listening to 254 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: you talk about all these resources, right, and so I'm wondering, 255 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you're not an educator and even if 256 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: you are an educator, and we know this even a therapist, right, 257 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Like if even if you're an educator, doesn't mean you 258 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: can necessarily educate your own children. So how do you know, 259 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: like if they are meeting certain academic milestones, like how 260 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: do you know to even make a decision about whether 261 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: I need to switch to a new curriculum? Like what 262 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: are the resources or what are you looking for to 263 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: be able to do something? Right? So going back to 264 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: remember I was talking about like the department, So Georgia 265 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: has or whatever state your state will have those standards, right, 266 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: What I specifically do is I'll get the Georgia standards 267 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: and then I will look to and say, for instance, 268 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: math or science, most curriculum are going to come with 269 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the different standards that are being taught right in the book, 270 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: and so I will look and say, Okay, this is 271 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: what we're supposed to know in science. Okay, does this 272 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: curriculum right here address this? And as long as it's 273 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: meeting those animum, then that may be one that's good 274 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: for you. Okay if it's not addressing it, because again, 275 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: you may decide to put your child in school later 276 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: and you want to make sure that it has addressed that. 277 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: So if it's not addressing it, then it's probably one 278 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: that either I'm not going to do or I'm going 279 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: to look at a grade level above to see if 280 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: it's captured there. Because of my boys age technically Georgia 281 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: in many states, I think it's what if your birthday 282 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: is after September one or whatever, they put you in 283 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the grade prior. Age wise, my boys should be in kindergarten. However, 284 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: skill wise and what they know, I was not going 285 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: to keep them in kindergarten because it was going to 286 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: move too slow. We have already done kindergarten work, honestly 287 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: with thin pre K, and so we did some kindergarten 288 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of starting into first grade work last year, which 289 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: was technically should have based on age, been pre K 290 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: for them. So this is how my children are in 291 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: first grade because they have met the standards and the milestones, 292 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: okay for kindergarten. Also, what I tell people to most places, 293 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: don't require your child to have to be in pre 294 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: K before they can go in kindergarten, kindergarten before they 295 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: can go in first Now, once you start going higher 296 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: than that, than yes, need to be in second grade 297 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: before you can go to third grade type thing. So anyway, 298 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: this is how I was kind of able to like 299 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: pull in peace and see what they needed. And to me, 300 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: it was not fair to still have them in first 301 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: grade instruction when they had already done that and mastered 302 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: that and completed that, and just because of their birthday. Right, 303 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: So this is how they are in first grade. The 304 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: last year we used Matthew See and I really really 305 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: love Matthew See because it is literally that it is 306 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: math that they can see, right, Because you have to 307 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: know your learning style of your child as well as 308 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: your own learning and teaching style, especially if you're not 309 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: already like a K through twelve educator, you need to 310 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: know your teaching style, your learning style is guess what 311 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: you're learning this with your child too. None of us 312 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: have been in kindergarten like forever. We've learned that stuff 313 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: and kept it moving or first grade or whatever grade 314 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: it is that you're teaching but also learning your child's 315 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: learning style. So anyway, math you see was definitely one 316 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: that they were able to see. It came with different 317 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: manipulatives and stuff that they can use. I loved how 318 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: it taught them how to tell time. I would watch 319 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: the learning videos that one comes with the video, and 320 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the boys would sometimes watch it with me, and so 321 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: now they know what I'm getting ready to teach them, 322 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: so they had me teaching it. They have a nanny still, 323 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: and so their nanny would sometimes teaching and supplemented, and 324 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: then they would watch the little video with the little 325 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: man and they love him, you know, watching him. So anyway, 326 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: we move forward to first grade, and although I still 327 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: have a first grade Matthew See book and curriculum, right now, 328 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: we're doing Horizons math because it's moving them along for 329 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: their next set of math. Like I said, multiplying, dividing, 330 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: breaking down, deconstructing numbers, all of that good stuff. Could 331 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: I still use Matthew See Yeah? Are they advancing faster 332 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: with Matthew See than Horizon? Yes? So that lets me 333 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: know I needed a little more challenge, right, So that's 334 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: why we switched. I recommend that if you're going to 335 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: get a curriculum at least see again, where's your child 336 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: going to place in this? How are they going to 337 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: understand it? Another kid they may have found Matthew See 338 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: to be too boring or too basic, and so the 339 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: parent may have had to do something else, or maybe 340 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: horizon math was to advance and they needed to move 341 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: to a different type of math. So you know this 342 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: basically by looking at your child assessing them. Many of 343 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: the books come with an assessment and it says if 344 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: your child can do these basic things and this is 345 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: where they are. If they cannot, then maybe you need 346 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: to go down a level. And that's okay, too, right. 347 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that, oh my gosh, my kid is 348 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: a first grader and there you know, they don't get X, 349 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: Y and z. It just means that maybe they need 350 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: a little refresher. It also may mean that instead of 351 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: teaching one concept today, you need to teach it one 352 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: concept every two or three days and focus a little 353 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: more on those edition facts or a little more on 354 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, lower case and upper case letters or something 355 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: like that. So, Dr Christopher Holloway, you mentioned one thing 356 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: that I want to dig into a little bit more 357 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: right about learning your own teaching style as a parent 358 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: or as an educator. But I'm wondering what other kinds 359 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: of things you might need to know about yourself before 360 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: you embark upon this journey of homeschool thing. Listen, you 361 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: need to learn if you have be patients for it, right, 362 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: And so I hear a lot of people say, oh 363 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't teach my kids, And the thing is, 364 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: can you not or do you not want to? In 365 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: my opinion, are two different things, right at least for me, 366 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: I can't teach means I literally don't of X, Y 367 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: and Z or these things that I need to teach them. 368 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to or I won't just means I don't. Hey, 369 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to teach them. It's not and that's 370 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: not my ministry. So one, do you have the tolerance? 371 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: Do you have the patients? Maybe you may say I 372 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: don't really have the patients to do this, okay? Is 373 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: that something that you feel can develop? Is it that 374 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: you don't have the patients because maybe you think your 375 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: child is gonna be flipping all around not listening to you. 376 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: Do you think you're gonna get too frustrated because maybe 377 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: it's something that you don't understand and you can't help 378 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: them understand it, right, And so being able to kind 379 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: of assess all of that. So do you have the patients? 380 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Do you have? And I'm not gonna say the time 381 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: because I think that sometimes gets people caught up because 382 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: we are socialized in condition to think that school is 383 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: from seven to three four whatever time. You know. I 384 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: always say it's no coincidence that work hours are aligned 385 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: with in school hours, which is why a lot of 386 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: people are struggling right now with the pandemic and struggling 387 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: with do I keep my kid home or do I 388 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: go to work? Right, that's a whole another social issue 389 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: for another podcast. But do you have the resources right? 390 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Do you have the time? Do you have the patience? 391 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Not necessarily do you have the space, because that can 392 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: be right there at your kitchen table, it can be 393 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of the floor, it can be anywhere 394 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: you're learning. Space can be anywhere. So the first thing 395 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: again is being able to like think outside of the box. 396 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: How would I want to be educated if I were 397 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: this age? What way would I want to be taught? 398 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Can I teach it in a style that my child 399 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: is going to love and to learn? So, for example, 400 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: the boys, we made a room in our home that 401 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: that is their classroom, and you may have seen pictures 402 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: of it on Facebook, but it's set up in a 403 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: way that is developmental, so they'll it'll grow with them 404 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: or they'll grow with it, I guess, but also very fun. 405 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: It's still five six year old age appropriate. They have 406 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: an affirmation that they say every day before we start 407 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: our school day, and I also say it too. I 408 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: have my little notes written that says, patients, you know 409 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: what it is that I am going to be working 410 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: on as I'm teaching it, because I have to have 411 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: patients with myself too. I by nature am a higher educator. 412 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Like I teach master's level students, I am a trainer, 413 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: and so I have to be patient and say like, hey, 414 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: this is something that they're learning, this is what they're 415 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: going to get on their level. I literally have to 416 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: turn off hey, Dr Professor Holloway to teach your Mommy Holloway. 417 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: And being able to shift, because sometimes that's happening within 418 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: hours or very simultaneously of each other. I may teach 419 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: the boys and literally go and run and record a lecture, right, 420 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: So I have to shift these things very quickly. So 421 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: being able to just kind of say like, Okay, what 422 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: is it that I have, what is it that I need, 423 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: and what is it that I am going to be 424 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: working on with me also working on with my children. 425 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: And it's also okay to use other supplemental So maybe 426 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: I don't understand a science concept, but I tell you 427 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: who does, and that's Generation Genius because my boys love it, 428 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: and so we may pull up that, or we may 429 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: pull up Brain Pop Junior, you know, or something like these, 430 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: like YouTube channels, different websites. So at Generation Genius is 431 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: and they know Dr Jeff Brain Pop. So I may 432 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: use some of that to supplement or reinforce something I 433 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: don't even know about or may not know as much about. 434 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: But now it's teaching it to them in a very fun, 435 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: kid friendly way. And yes, there are tons of things 436 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: on YouTube as well, got it? So I think it 437 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: really is, like you mentioned, having patience with yourself and 438 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: also understanding that you don't have to have all of 439 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: the answers, because I think again that's where people may 440 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: get overwhelmed with, like how am I going to teach 441 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: them science? Like I didn't even get this myself in school, right, 442 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: but understanding that there are other resources that you can 443 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: put into teach as well. Yes, absolutely, the curriculums that 444 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: I love the most are ones that come with a 445 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: very hands on, step by step teachers guy. So unless 446 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: you really know it, and this is just something that's 447 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: your strength area. I recommend that folks get one that 448 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: has a teacher's guy because it literally says we're doing 449 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: daily reading comprehension and reading fundamentals, right, and it literally 450 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: says day one point to this, tell students this, show this, 451 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, now say this, stand at the board and 452 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: write that. So for those who really need those instructions 453 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: like that to kind of help them know how to 454 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: move on, I like any curriculum that is going to 455 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: have a well guided teachers manual or instructors manual. So 456 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned that you don't necessarily need a whole classroom 457 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: space like you have. You could just use the kitchen table. 458 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: Are there other resources that you would suggest people have 459 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: or of supplies and they might need to get started 460 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: with homeschooling? Absolutely, so you know your basic again depending 461 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: on their age as well. So again my kids are younger, 462 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: so you're basic supplies, crafts, anything you can turn into 463 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: like a craft activity as well. They were learning sequence, 464 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: like telling a story in sequence that was talking about 465 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: plants or something, so it's like, oh great, now this 466 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: can be science as well as we're talking about life cycle. 467 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh guess what we can make this as a craft 468 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: as well. Here's some crayons as some construction paper. Make 469 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: a flower, make a plant, and let's label the stem 470 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: and the pedals, you know, and all of that. So 471 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: you want to have like your basic things that are 472 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: going to be around the home. If you have access 473 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: to a library right now, again with COVID, is just 474 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: so much going on. Some libraries are open, some or not. 475 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: But if your library is open, take advantage of that. 476 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: God use the library. You have all of these books 477 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: at your disposal. You can also do audio books. Many 478 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: libraries have can log in and still check out audio 479 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: books and you can start using those. And so here's 480 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: my thing. I am very fond of interest lad and 481 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: child lad learning. So if I say to the boys, 482 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: where do y'all want to learn? They may say, Mommy, 483 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: can we learn about dinosaurs? Or can we learn about 484 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: how an engine works? Or something like that, and being 485 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: able to kind of incorporate that in whatever your structured 486 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: learning is. So if y'all were already talking about reading 487 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: comprehension and putting you know, a story and sequence, all 488 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: I have to do now is go and find a 489 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: story online about how a car runs first you know, 490 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: open the door, put the key in. Next you do 491 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: X Y and z. Then you do x, y and z. 492 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: So you're still teaching them that basic skill that you're 493 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: trying to do and reinforce, which is sequence and in 494 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: order and reading comprehension, but you're doing it in a 495 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: manner of something that they stated that they want to 496 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: learn and want to do. So really again, allowing yourself 497 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: to be creative and not sucking like a certain kind 498 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: of a box. Please don't get stuck in a box, honestly, 499 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: because it's gonna make it so hard for you. It's 500 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: to feel very frustrating. And I even did that. Another 501 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: resource and the I'm gonna come back to the box. 502 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: But another resource is having a mentor. If you can 503 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: find a mentor someone that has been doing this that 504 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: can kind of walk you through it. Is so many 505 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram, so many social media sites that you 506 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: can join and hear other people's stories or you know, 507 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: read the questions that they may ask. So that's definitely 508 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: your resource because you need something for you too. As usual, 509 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: when we get caught up making sure everybody else is okay. 510 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make sure the kids got this and 511 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: they can learn that, and I'm setting my room up 512 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: and I'm teaching that, and I'm like, okay, well what 513 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: about you. Where's your outlet? Do you have another homeschool 514 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: mom or dad or homeschool parents? Right, So making sure 515 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: you have that as a resource, whether it's someone that 516 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, or if it's a group that you're in 517 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: or something like that. But going back to being boxed in, 518 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: I did that like maybe our first year year and 519 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: a half. I was just like, wait, this doesn't allow 520 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: for flexibility because today it says we're supposed to be 521 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: moving on to this, but we weren't in the classroom yesterday, 522 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: So well, how do I get back to that? You know? 523 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: And it made me feel very boxed in. Although I 524 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: like that site that I was using to just kind 525 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: of keep up with what we were doing, I didn't 526 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: like how again it made me feel boxed in. So 527 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: I went back to their old school planner that you 528 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: write down and you know, a color code and highlight 529 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: and things like that. So the more you're in a 530 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 1: box or the more you're trying to teach, that's not 531 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: a style that is complementary to your teaching style and 532 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: your children's learning style, it will be overwhelming as well. Yeah, 533 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: and I know that one of the main criticisms are 534 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: one of the larger criticisms I hear from people related 535 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: to homeschooling and socialization, right, and so these concerns about like, 536 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: how are they gonna learn all this other stuff if 537 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: they're not interacting. Now there are two of your little ones, right, 538 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: so they're kind of have this built in socialization. But 539 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm curious to hear what kinds of things you were 540 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: doing in terms of socialization before cope, Nat, and maybe 541 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: how you're thinking about socialization now. Right. So the first 542 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: thing I usually tell people, if your mama, their mama 543 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: dad was anything like mine, what they would say, I 544 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't send you that school out there to talk lear right, Yes, 545 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: I like your mama kept saying that dot. But the 546 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: first thing they say, I did not send you that 547 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: school how to talk to be making friends and socialized. 548 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: I said, you got to learn. You're getting in trouble 549 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: because you talked too much. But no, so, but yes, 550 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: do they need to socialize? Absolutely? Are my kids at 551 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: advantage because they have each other? Absolutely? I had a 552 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: client asked me this one day, and he said, well, 553 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: what about their socialization and I can you know, I said, 554 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: tell me, he's like sixties. And I said, well, tell 555 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: me about your grandma. Do you think you know she 556 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: went to formal you know, like, oh no, she did 557 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: X Y Z. And I said, your grandma's probably smarter 558 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: than all of us combined, right, and was never set 559 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: foot in a formal educational setting. Right. So that tells 560 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: you that, yes, socialization is key. It is very important. 561 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: But there are so many ways that children can socialize 562 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: and not just you know, with adults, because that's the 563 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: next thing. You're like, well, they're always around you are 564 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: always around adults, and so that's not always the case. 565 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: So things that we did prior to COVID. We have 566 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: a great family friend that has twins also that lives 567 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes from us, and her family has a 568 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: homestead and a little farm and things like that. So 569 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: we would do forest school. And forest school is simply 570 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: learning in a woodland environment, but it's teaching against social skills, 571 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: sur viable skills, all types of things. So the kids 572 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: have my boys and and the kids that we're in 573 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: our forest school have learned you know, hell baby chickens 574 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: and learned life cycles of that. But they also been 575 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: able to suit up and put on a b suit 576 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: and harvest honey from bees, so many things that we 577 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: do at Forest School. But that's what we would do 578 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: every Wednesday from ten to two rain shine, sleep or snow. 579 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: So if it was cold, guess what they have on 580 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: their bib suit there, their snow boots, everything, And of 581 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: course we would keep the children comfortable, but that's what 582 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: it is. If it was raining, we had on rain suits. 583 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: If it was hot, we just made sure they were 584 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: dressed appropriately and had tons and tons of good cold water. 585 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: And so they got a lot of outdoor learning time 586 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: every Wednesday with other black and brown kids and kids 587 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: that look like them, because that was also very important 588 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: for us in their social and emotional development and learning too. 589 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: But that would happen every Wednesday. We do play dates 590 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: where we would meet up at the park with friends. 591 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: They were taking swim lessons, they take music lessons, they 592 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: were doing what is it t ball premall, whatever it's 593 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: called at that and so they were making friends through that. 594 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: We would go to the library several times a week. 595 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: The boys are very interested in science and space, so 596 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: we had memberships at the Space museum here in Georgia, 597 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: we've gone to the Children's museum, So we were out 598 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: quite a bit and doing things, and they go to 599 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: the park. They would go to the park at least 600 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: what four or five days out of the week. Now 601 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: that COVID has come in and as I said earlier, 602 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: been real disrespectful, you have to be very creative and 603 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: how you're going to still allow them to connect with 604 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: their friends. So I don't think any of us, well 605 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: any of us on miscalling probably listening, did not know 606 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: in the beginning how bad COVID was. Word on the 607 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: street is they knew how it was, but none of 608 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: us knew that we were gonna still be sitting in 609 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: our house being virtual and doing all these Zoom meetings 610 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: six months later. I think most of us, at least 611 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, this will be two weeks. We literally 612 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: were like, we'll see y'all back and for us school 613 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: in April, and then April and we're like, uh, let's 614 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: just call it. We're not gonna do it. So now 615 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: some of the things that we've done is we've done 616 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: Zoom play dates with their friends. But honestly, dr joy 617 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: and into your listeners. It was very hard for them 618 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: because they got tired of playing with each other. Right. 619 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: They were just like, Okay, I see my brother and 620 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: then so we would go outside and play and they 621 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: see a neighbor down the street playing and another neighbor 622 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: on this and they're like, oh, can I go play? 623 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: And we'd say no, baby, you can't right now. And 624 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: so they would say because of the COVID and we'd 625 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: say yes, and they got it, but they didn't get 626 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: it right. And so I remember maybe around May or so, 627 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: all the kids and they just naturally inclined to do it. 628 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: We're riding their bikes, and they started riding their bikes 629 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: in the cold to sect but they were literally about 630 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: four to six feet apart from each other. Was nothing 631 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: that we said you gotta stay away or don't get 632 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: too close. They just kind of organically at it. So 633 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: that made me happy to see that they were playing, 634 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: but it also made me sad as a parents, like, man, 635 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: is this is what it is now? But they got it, 636 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: and they did it so they get to see their 637 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: little friends in the neighborhood. We started back taking them 638 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: to the park and a lot of times the park 639 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: is empty or maybe it's only two or three other 640 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: kids there, and so we started out with you know, 641 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: wear your mask at the part it's hot, or at 642 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: least it was super hot, and so that was a 643 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: little difficult for them to do. So if it would 644 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: get more than five kids, they knew, you know, they 645 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: would get out there and counting. If it's more, we're 646 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: gonna go play on the other side, or we would 647 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: go find another part. It's a lot of parks around 648 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: where we live, so we would go find another park 649 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: that may have not had as many kids. And they 650 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: got to see some of their friends from Fort School 651 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: for the first time last month, so that was exciting 652 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: and again sad as well, but they got to play 653 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: and hug and you know, see their friends. So it 654 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: is a little different now with COVID, and we have 655 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: to as a family think outside of the box on 656 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: again what socialization looks like, what interacting outside of just 657 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: our four walls and our four family members, what that 658 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: looks like, and doing it in the safest way possible. 659 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: So they know we can't go to museums right now. 660 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: They know we're not going to any big places and 661 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: stuff like that. We've spent a lot of family time. 662 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: We've done you know, let's go get ice cream and 663 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: sit just on the field and eat or sit back 664 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: in the car and eat it. But it's been different. 665 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: It's definitely been different. All the things that you listed 666 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: off that y'all were doing before. It sounds so much fun, right, 667 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: like all the different activities they could participate in, and 668 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: thinking about how you can really make any kind of 669 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: thing a learning experience. So I definitely want to hear 670 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: them more about like scheduling and boundaries and like how 671 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: you kind of keep all of their straight being of course, 672 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: you know, like a full time business owner and professor 673 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: and you know homeschooling as well. What does that look like? 674 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: So full disclosure, I will tell y'all. Like I said, 675 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: they have a nanny there. Nanny has been in their 676 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: life since they were two months old, so they are 677 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: five and a half years old, so you know, over 678 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: five years she's been with us, and so she still 679 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: comes with us part time. And so I remember when 680 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: COVID hit and we realized we were going to be 681 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: home everything was going to be virtual, and I remember saying, 682 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: like I got this. You know, my clients were virtual, 683 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: So I was like I already do that. I already 684 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: teach online and I've already been home schooling. So hey, 685 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I got this, Well, guess what happens. Everybody wants to 686 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: have a meeting. And then we got hit with the 687 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: double pandemic of social injustices and racial issues that were 688 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: happening in America. So that was the next thing that 689 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: happened in the midst of COVID, and so that pulled 690 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: me into more meetings, to more conversations on diversity and inclusion, 691 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: to more conversations even within my family and with my 692 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: boys on social justice and things like that, and so 693 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: probably about me April to early May, it became very overwhelming, 694 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of times where the boys 695 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't even get into the classroom because it 696 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: was literally back to back meeting see clients, make sure 697 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: they're okay, take care of my own self, you know, 698 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: and things like that. And so I had to really 699 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: take a step back and say, where is the priority 700 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: here and what needs to happen and how can I 701 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: make that happen. And so as far as scheduling, the 702 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: boys and their nanny and I would talk and say, Okay, 703 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: this is what this looks like, and hey, I'll come 704 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: in and teach, but I have a meeting at this time. 705 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: Can you take over or you know whatever that may 706 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: mean to look like. So I changed my schedule all 707 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: the way around. And I typically try to do meetings 708 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: or things like that during their lunch or their quiet time, 709 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: and then you know she's here with them, and so 710 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: we get the bulk of our learning done in the morning, 711 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: and then by the time she kind of takes over 712 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: with them, at least they're learning is done, and so 713 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: maybe they go outside and play or go to the park, 714 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: or do puzzles. They love doing puzzles. And then I 715 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: will go and sell CA I'm gonna record my lecture, 716 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: or I'm gonna attend this meeting. I've got to see 717 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: a client, because that does still have to happen. But 718 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: as far as scheduling, again, you have to do what 719 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: works for your family. This morning, one of the boys 720 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: got up and he was ready to go, and the 721 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: other one got up, looked at me and I said, 722 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 1: you read and he said, no, I'm gonna lay back down. 723 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm still tired, and that's fine with me. One of 724 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: the things that I want to promote and instill in 725 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: them is the need for rest and if your body 726 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: is telling you that you need to rest, then go 727 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: and rest it. Because again, we're in a society where 728 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: it's go, go, go go, and it's hustle and bustle, 729 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: and here we are even talking about boundaries around our time, right, 730 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: So I want to teach them like, if you need 731 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: to rest, rest, um, then we'll get up and get started. 732 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a struggle if I'm trying to teach 733 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: them math and he's still tired, and then we're all 734 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: gonna be frustrated and overwhelmed in tears and things like that. 735 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: So why even set us up for that? So anyway, 736 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: I've changed my edule around. They know, like those moments 737 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be quiet time because maybe mommy 738 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: has to do a meeting or has to make a 739 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: phone call, and so they know what that time looks like. 740 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: But again they're also five and a half. And there 741 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: have been times where I am doing a webinar and 742 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: then you come in and be like, hey, can we 743 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: do it? Or I'm recording in a lecture and they 744 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: busted the door dinners ready, you know, but guess what, 745 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: that's life. And I preft many of my meetings, telling 746 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: people this is the sign of our times, and this 747 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: is where we are, and this is life. And I 748 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: give that same to my students, to my clients, like, 749 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: this is that same grace that you will need from 750 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: me and that you need to give to yourself too. 751 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: M So we schedule we do on Wednesdays, we do 752 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: out Wednesdays and Fridays typically we do outdoor learning time 753 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: where I will literally take whatever it is that we 754 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: are working on and learning and we go to the 755 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: park and we sit under the covered pavilion and we'll 756 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: do our work. And then when it's their brain break time, 757 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: guess what the parts right there, they can go run 758 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: across and play. Then they come back and we eat lunch, 759 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: and then go back and play, and then we'll do 760 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: some more work. So again that learning space can look 761 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: like any place, but your time can be moved around 762 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: and flexed as well if possible. And I understand that 763 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: everybody doesn't have that opportunity and privilege, but I think 764 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: when you're able to put it in context, that learning 765 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: can happen at any time of the day. So if 766 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: you work from eight to five, you're learning may not 767 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: start till six or seven. You know, depending on the 768 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: age of your child, you're learning may not start till 769 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: the weekends. You may really teach your children on Saturdays 770 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,479 Speaker 1: and Sundays and you know throughout, you know, an hour 771 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: here and there throughout the week because again, depending on 772 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: their age, they don't need to be sitting and they're 773 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: not going to sit at a desk for seven hours, 774 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: six hours, and they don't need to be If we 775 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: did our instruction without taking any breaks whatsoever, we could 776 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: literally be done in two and a half maybe three hours, 777 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm teaching some type of new concept. 778 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,479 Speaker 1: So you have to figure out kind of what your 779 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: life looks like and how you can kind of maneuver 780 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: that in Is there anything that you can flex you 781 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: can move around if you're working from home, you know, 782 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: do you have a parent or a grandparent or a 783 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: friend or someone that can kind of watch them for 784 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: you during that time when you may have to do 785 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: a meeting that cannot be interrupted, right, and then you 786 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: have this other time where you can kind of do 787 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: that instruction with them. So that's just kind of how 788 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: we do it. There are days that we get started 789 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: in our classroom right at nine o'clock on the dot. 790 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: There are days we don't go in there until three o'clock. 791 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: There are days we may not go at all, but 792 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: I already know that we're going to supplement it and 793 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: catch it up, and if it's something that they didn't get, 794 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: we could do it for an hour or two on 795 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: a Saturday. You know, I really appreciate you sharing, like 796 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,479 Speaker 1: the flexibility that comes with it and the idea that 797 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: really if you think about like the hours that are 798 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: actually spent an instruction, it is only like two and 799 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: a half to three hours. But again, because we are 800 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: so used to the traditional model of school, right, we 801 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: think that we have to be kind of doing something 802 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: from like seven to three o'clock, when the truth is 803 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: that a lot of that could be done in a 804 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: like two to three hour block. Absolutely, most definitely, most definitely, 805 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: And so don't stress yourself out, don't stress your children 806 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: now trying to do for five plus hours of instruction. 807 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: And that's another thing. Even with me being in year 808 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: three when we started some of our first grade work, 809 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: there were some things that I was like, Okay, we're 810 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: gonna do our reading comprehension and then I'm gonna supplement 811 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: it with this language arts comprehension, and then I'm like, 812 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: it's right here, and I'm like, girl, if you don't 813 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: fall back, no, Like they're getting it. And then you 814 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: can use this like as a worksheet or something you 815 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: want to reinforce later, you know, like we're doing comparing contrast. 816 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: That's what we started on today, So that's what we did. 817 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: But then I just turned it and said, well, tell 818 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: me something that's the same you know about you and 819 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: your brother, and tell me something that's different. Tell me 820 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: something that's different about us. So we're supplementing that throughout. 821 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: But you're going to have to be compassionate and flexible 822 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: and even forgiving of yourself because this is a journey 823 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: and you were learning too, and whether you've been homeschooling 824 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: for zero time of your life or ten years of 825 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: your life, you're still going to be learning as you 826 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: go because guess what, your child is growing and changing 827 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: and learning, so it's going to be a changing process. 828 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: But worked for you six months ago probably may still 829 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 1: work this time now, but it also may not because 830 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: your child, their brain is constantly developing and growing and 831 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: you have to adapt to that. So don't get caught 832 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: up if something is not working don't think that you 833 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't do it right. It just may mean it's time 834 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: to flex it, which again is for me and our 835 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: family the beauty of homeschooling because we get to flex it. 836 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So you've kind of mentioned throughout the conversation, 837 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: Dr Christopher Halloway these kind of mental health checkens you 838 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: do with the boys, right, even very early on you 839 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that they've not expressed a desire 840 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: to do something different, which leads me to think like 841 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: that that's an open conversation around like maybe they might 842 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: decide they want to do something and then the family 843 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: has a conversation around it. And so I'm curious to 844 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: hear if you can share something about um doing these 845 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of mental health check ins with your kids in 846 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: a whole school in situation to make sure that that 847 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: conversation does stay open. Right. Absolutely, So, of course, I 848 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: think it's just natural because we are counselors. Everything you're 849 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: doing is traumatizing your child, and like, oh my gosh, right, 850 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: I rolled my neck and now they trumatized. So that's 851 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: that piece about forgiveness, y'all, because again, you may have 852 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: a rough day and that tone may go up in 853 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: your voice. But then you come back and you apologize, 854 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: or you reassess, you reevaluate, you talk about what could 855 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: have been done differently. And a lot of times I'll 856 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: have that conversation with the boys here. They know if 857 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: you need space and you need time to say that 858 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: I need time. Can I take a step out? Can 859 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: I go to my room and get it together and 860 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: come back? Sure? Absolutely. So we've created a feeling, identification, 861 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: and expression. We've been doing that forever, but they actually 862 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: have visuals of it. And so that's another thing that 863 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: we try to do to tell me how you're feeling 864 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: right now before we even get the day started. Because 865 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: if someone tells me they're feeling sad, if they're feeling nervous, 866 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: they're feeling confused, I need to check in and figure 867 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: out what's going on, because again, it may make our 868 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: instruction hard. And so now I'm frustrated because you acting 869 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: like you don't know B from D and y'all can 870 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: tell that's that's that's truly happened to our household. So 871 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: you don't know that's a B right there, you know? 872 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: But then I need to step back because then now 873 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm frustrated they're frustrated, and if I would have just 874 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: done a simple check in on Mommy, I'm tired or 875 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm still hungry. You you didn't give me that extra 876 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: piece of bacon that I asked, whatever, can I have 877 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: some over? Like I cannot focus? So they have that 878 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: I made feeling magnets and they can go and take 879 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: it off. They can tell me why they're feeling that way. 880 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: We have tons of feeling cards even throughout our instruction. Hey, 881 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: how you doing? Did you get it? And you know 882 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: the same thing you're doing regular school. Here is a sticker. 883 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: We'll stop in the middle and dance and have a 884 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: little party because, oh my gosh, you just counted by threes. 885 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: You skill counted by fours and I hadn't even taught 886 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: you that yet. So yeah, we're gonna celebrate that because 887 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 1: now it's setting them up to feel very good about 888 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: themselves and what they're learning. So once we sit back 889 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: down at that desk and they don't get some concept, 890 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: they can just remember how we just celebrate it, right, 891 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: and how much we did to honor that learning. And 892 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: so we do a lot of check ins on that. 893 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: With COVID, we've been doing a lot of check ins, 894 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: because they don't say, man, I'm tired of this, or 895 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: we can't go nowhere. People don't put their mask on 896 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: walking around here with no mask, you know, or something 897 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: like that. And so we'll say, you know, what are 898 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts about it? Tell me what's going on. So 899 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: we try to stay constant with that, and I'll be honest, 900 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: it's something that I'm having to make sure I'm being 901 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: more intentional with with myself, because again, as we do, 902 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: we get in that hustle and bustle and we go 903 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: and we try to make sure everybody else is okay. 904 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: So I even have to step back and say, like, 905 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: how am I feeling? Am I still tired? Did I 906 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: get enough for us? Am I overwhelm? Am I unfocused? 907 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: Because I know I got a meeting coming up, you know, 908 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: or something like that. And so being able to kind 909 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: of have those conversations and process that within internally within myself, 910 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: but then also letting them know they can do that. 911 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: This is going to be the safest place for them 912 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: to talk because I need you at some point leave 913 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: our house to be able to express yourself, to be 914 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: able to know how you're feeling and what's going on. 915 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: So that is daily, daily, daily for us, sometimes several 916 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: times a day. Mm hmmm, yeah, I think I remember 917 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: seeing pictures of your feelings. Magnet's like, oh, those are 918 00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: so cute. So you've already given us tons of resources, 919 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: but I do want to make sure that we get 920 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: any additional ones that you want to share that you 921 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: think might be helpful for people as they may be 922 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 1: considering a home school option. Yes, if you're thinking about 923 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: homeschooling and you and your child have been in your 924 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: traditional school settings for whatever length of time, you're gonna 925 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: have to count almost d school D program or unschool yourself. Okay, 926 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: So keeping that in mind, because again we get caught 927 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: up seven or three, or they got to be up 928 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: super early this, and and don't do this, and and no, 929 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: you can't eat right now because we're you know whatever. 930 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: That maybe if the boys say they're hungry, okay, well 931 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: let's finish this and we'll take a snack, right, Like, 932 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: why am I gonna tell you can't have a great 933 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: because you're adding like since that, right, so you may 934 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: have to like count almost deep program what we have 935 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: in condition to think certain settings look like. And I'm 936 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: not saying this is all you know, public, private school settings. 937 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: But let them be that freethinker, letting them be able 938 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: to if you're hungry, what's wrong with stopping and having 939 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: a snack right now? Does life always do that? Sometimes 940 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: it does, depending on your job, and sometimes it doesn't. 941 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: But I know, if I'm sitting here and I'm hungry 942 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: and i have a client, what am I gonna do. 943 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: I gonna take a break before my client comes, and 944 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna drink some water in that session. 945 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: So why would I not allow a child to do that? 946 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: So being able to do that, there are several free resources, 947 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: and if they're not free, they're very low costs. I 948 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: love teachers, pay teachers. You can search for free resources 949 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: on there, and then they do have some you know 950 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: that you can pay for. We use a lot of 951 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: Generation Genius, a lot of brain pop, ABC Mouse flocabulary 952 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: is it flocabulary? Ocabulary? So it's all music, so children's style. Right. 953 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: He can hear a song right now, he will be 954 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: singing it before it's off the radio. He is a 955 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: very what auditory learner because he gonna get it through music. 956 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 1: The other one is very hands on, want to touch everything, 957 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: see everything, smell everything, and you're crossing your eyes like, 958 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Locabulary is good. So I said a mentor. 959 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: All the Facebook groups whatever area you are in, but 960 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: you put in the search for our home school, you 961 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: will see homeschool groups maybe for your area. I'm in 962 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: a lot of African American homeschool groups, home schooling for 963 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 1: the culture. Free resource I think it's free Resource deals 964 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: or something like that on Facebook that gives a whole 965 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: lot of free things every day, every single day, that 966 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: you can click on. And it may not be anything 967 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: that you need at that moment, but I always tell 968 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 1: people like create you like a Google drive or a 969 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: folder on your computer, and just still go ahead and 970 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: download it and save it for later when you will 971 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: need it, especially if it's something that you think is 972 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: going to be very beneficial to you and what you 973 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 1: and your child may be learning down the line. And 974 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: then as much as possible, still having that mentor or 975 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: that person that you can consult with and just someone 976 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: else that you can kind of bounce ideas off. I 977 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: ended up in one of our clinician groups. She was like, 978 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: I pulling my kids and I'm home schooling, and next thing. 979 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: I know. It's like, oh, you live like ten minutes 980 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: from me, and our kids met up at the park 981 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: and it was just our five kids and so now 982 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: they have that social interaction right with other people. And 983 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: then I also got a mimmy break two and got 984 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: to talk to another adult. So being able to use 985 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: whatever resources that are around, whether they are digital resources 986 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: for other people. Perfect. Thank you so much for all 987 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: of the dictors for Hollywey. We will definitely be including 988 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: all of that in this show notes. So remind people 989 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: where they can connect with you again, your website as 990 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: well as any social media handles you want to share. 991 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely so. My counseling website is www dot New Vision 992 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: Counseling Center dot com. Um you can also find New 993 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: Vision Counseling Center on Facebook where you're located in Douglas Kill, Georgia. 994 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: And then my speaking and consultation and training website is 995 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: Christie C. Holloway dot com and you can also follow 996 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: me on Facebook at doctor Christie Christopher Holloway and then 997 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram at dr dot Christie C. Halloway. Perfect. We 998 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: appreciate you so much for sharing all of this. I'm 999 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: so glad that Dr Christopher Holloway was able to share 1000 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: her expertise and experience with us again today. 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