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Speaker 1: the sausage is made. Nobody wants to see your sausage.

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Speaker 1: But that puts the sausage away. I think Joe Cardona

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Speaker 1: was the gippers, and then that's its scenarios. One for

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Speaker 1: Joe akers away boys like you can watch Red Zone

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Speaker 1: and then recap each game into video. He's taken. Sure

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Speaker 1: he's complimenting me, but you know what he's really doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that personally. I did not see any

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Speaker 1: limping today, but I will say this and the guy

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Speaker 1: that replaced you at Plus, I'm sorry yet that again, Lazar,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want any of Lazar Colin. Colin

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Speaker 1: you know, people are like, what a bunch of pussies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we could say that back then. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you could say that, Fireman. I've maintained that one game

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Speaker 1: lead for like three weeks in a row. That's because

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Speaker 1: Mike picks everything you pay. I go. First friend is

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, in a real Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and it's deuce. It's me. Paul will be here eventually. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he found a camera, so he's delayed. Evan will be

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Speaker 1: here for the second hour. So big show here Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Matt's in the booth making it all happen. And uh,

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Speaker 1: we thought that the Patriots had found, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: heartwrenching way to lose the game in Vegas, and they

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Speaker 1: certainly did. But they found another way to do it

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Ye fumble on Saturday, I should say a

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Speaker 1: little more conventional method. It wasn't everyone to their minds

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Speaker 1: start trying to lateral it. But he was involved in

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Speaker 1: both of those endings. I know, well, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna Coaches aren't giving them any flak for it,

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Speaker 1: and he's trying to fight for extra yards. They're okay

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Speaker 1: with it. So at this point, what can you really do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been everything for you. It's right now

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Speaker 1: rogue against the Raiders, and then yeah, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just the game is in your hands. You got you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody I think thought, she's the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: somehow going to escape with a win after looking as

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Speaker 1: bad as they ever have them. And they were, they were,

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Speaker 1: you know, they were in perfect situation. Yeah, the clock

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Speaker 1: the game, to win the game, and they could tell.

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Speaker 1: They were just I mean, they're selling their own heads

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Speaker 1: in the red zone regardless. But it was just run it,

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Speaker 1: But another frustrating ending to a team. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the offense wasn't this bad, which I

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Speaker 1: and we're going to get into Miami probably a lot tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But you know two is on concussion protocol. Um So,

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Speaker 1: So it always the Patriots, right, Yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 1: Romondre Stevenson fumbled out was forward progress up? You know? Right,

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Speaker 1: a game the Vikings should have won, right, right, right,

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Speaker 1: just think of like the litany of errors by the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: Like individually those players would cost a team a game. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have trouble getting past the design of the offense.

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Speaker 1: did he? Okay, so when did that happen? This morning?

423
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Speaker 1: This morning there's eleven k so Mac had to play

424
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: on the return where he came from behind and then

425
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: cut down one of the defenders, and uh, Florio I

426
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: think was the first to come out and said, you know,

427
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get fine for this, and he did.

428
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: He's he got I mean, he got was killed yesterday.

429
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: But I mean there were a lot of people he did.

430
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I thought he did get killed. I

431
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: think I think that's I mean, every show and you

432
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: know Sterling Sharp talking about or Shannon Sharp sorry, you know,

433
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 1: saying all he's gonna have to watch out that our

434
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: guy Dove cleman if he's a real person. UM put

435
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: out that video with like you know, the Mac Jones

436
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: play the Greatest Hits, which was funny because then somebody

437
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: uh tagged Andy saying, oh, Duce had a good rand

438
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 1: about Mac and I was like, well that was was

439
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: just when I was mad with it flopping. That was

440
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: and when he was trying to put cleats and guys

441
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: balls and you know, cut guys out from under. The

442
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: funny thing too yesterday was Mac was on EI. Yeah,

443
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh no, no, I wasn't. I

444
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to do anything. There's no hard feelings. I'm like,

445
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it's for you to write if there's

446
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: no hard feelings. Mag like they might have hard feeling

447
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: because they felt like they tried to take out their knees. Um,

448
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't need to reiterate it. Well, I think I

449
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: think he's got a problem, and in that he lashes out.

450
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: He does, whether it's just physically or emotionally, he lashes out.

451
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: And I think you know Saban talked about it, um

452
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: that it was something that they had worked on even

453
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: in college. You know, he he lashes out. I mean

454
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: it was the the I mean, the stuff for me

455
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: was just like faking you he got a concussion or

456
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: going down extra hard, which I just thought was dangerous

457
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: because they're gonna pull you. But yeah, he's got to

458
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: he's got to stop this stuff. I don't I mean,

459
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't know so much about the reprieve from other

460
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: defensive players. I mean, that's the last year with Brian

461
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: Burns was like, you know, happy things saying that kind

462
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: of stuff. Kind of a similar thing. But I just

463
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: wish you'd cool with this stuff. I wish you would

464
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: just get up and play the next play and stop

465
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: with all the histrionics and and overemotional reactions to I

466
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: think they're related, but there are different things. I agree

467
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: with what you guys just said about I think that

468
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: part of this mentality is why he ends up doing

469
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: these things. But I think these things are different, and

470
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: I you know, I always try to give guys the

471
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Like the dirty thing to me

472
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: is kind of a label that's hard to go past.

473
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: It's like when someone calls you a racist. You know,

474
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: how do you defend yourself when someone calls you a racist? Um,

475
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: don't be a racist? No, no, I know, but there's

476
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: no like like I'm not racist. Oh yeah, I didn't

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: mean it too. Yeah, you definitely sound like you're not. Um.

478
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, when I saw the Brian Burns play, I

479
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: didn't like it, but I didn't think to myself, I

480
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: was trying to hurt him there and I and I don't.

481
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: But when there's like four now all kind of in

482
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: similar patterns, and I think Fred's right when he says

483
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: how they come about. It's like when he gets to

484
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: that state, he lashes out. He lashes out, and I

485
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: think at that time he's thinking like Grayson Allen. I

486
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: think that's a perfect comparison for the former Duke basketball

487
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: player for the Bucks. Now, well, he was with the Bucks.

488
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still with the Bucks. I

489
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to like tear someone's ecl but

490
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: like he might run by and stick a foot out

491
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: and trip a guy on the court. He did it

492
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: all the time. And I don't think Mac was trying

493
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: to hurt at Eli Apple, but he was frustrated as hell.

494
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: Ye and that was who was in front of him,

495
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: and that was the guy who was there. Now, the

496
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: fact that he's coming from behind has nothing to do

497
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: with the dirtiness. You can't go low on a guy

498
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: who's trying to block. It's just like a defensive player

499
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: on a regular play, on a screen pass, they throw

500
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: a screen pass out there, two linemen there, and here

501
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: comes the little safety. You can't dive at the guard

502
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: the guard's legs. That's a penalty. That's a cheap dirty play,

503
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: and that's I'm like, even if he was coming from

504
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: the front side and Apple knew he was there, he

505
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: get bailed out a little bit because it doesn't really

506
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: make a lot of contact. Eli was athletic enough to

507
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: sort of jump it and it was kind of a

508
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: nothing burger. Yeah, but I didn't see it turn the game.

509
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: I think he fell though, didn't he Apple? Yeah, but

510
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: I think he started coming and he didn't get like

511
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: this knees taken out right like, and I said, like,

512
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: I just said, this is Steve Burton. I was like,

513
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, you played football. How did you feel when

514
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: guys went at your legs, went at your knees? And

515
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's a good point. That was like

516
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the cardinal sin, Like you never unnecessarily went into guy's knees.

517
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: That was the only time in hockey. Different but playing

518
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: at bats in summer league going into college, can't wait

519
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: to start my college career. This kid went on my

520
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: knees like coming around the net, and I lost my mind,

521
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: I mean same, flashed out. I took my stick and

522
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: I too handed him, oh yeah, and went after him.

523
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: He turtled. Never seen my dad so proud in his life.

524
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: It was just like alright, Michael, and then we had

525
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: to like get in the car. Then we had dropped

526
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: to Melrose for like another summer league hockey game, you know,

527
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: but it's it's true. And there was one thing I

528
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: just want to clarify, Like he got called for a

529
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: personal foul at the end of the game on the fumble. Yeah,

530
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: same thing, but that didn't that wasn't related to this.

531
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: I think people, you know, like he after the game

532
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm just trying to get you know,

533
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: the balls on the games on the line, I'm trying

534
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: to get the fumble. Yeah, anything you did in a

535
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: fumble pile I don't put in the same category as this, right,

536
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: you know, I think he got called for like pulling

537
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: guys off the pile and stuff, right, you know, And yeah,

538
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, but like unless he grabbed

539
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: someone in the grapes or something, and that's what the

540
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: referee saw. But you're not allowed to pull guys. I mean, right,

541
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: that's a penalty, and that's what And that was, by

542
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: the way, a sneaky important penalty. Yeah right, and it

543
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: allows them to punt, and and there was a good

544
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: punt and it you know, it backed him up. I

545
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: would connect those. I mean, it's just I think it's

546
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: the same thing as Paul said. He's frustrated. Vermandri just

547
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: fumbled it. He's losing his mind. You know, I don't

548
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: know what exactly happens, Grace under pressure, Grace under pressure.

549
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: So I just think now there's enough. And you know,

550
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: no one really talked about that slide against Chicago. I

551
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: said it to you, what had happened while I go.

552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: He absolutely tried to hit him in the nuts. He

553
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: did a slide and his foot was up, you know,

554
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: waist high, and the guy jumped over him for the

555
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: Chicago like that was clearly an attempt to me to

556
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: get the guy in the nuts, well, or get the

557
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: guy I don't know necessarily in the nuts was right

558
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: the grape s Brady used to do the same thing. Hey, yeah,

559
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: we getting food, he already ordered. I don't think so

560
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: what what'd you get me? Pot luck? Right, a surprise.

561
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would have got garlic bre but that's okay.

562
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, go ahead of that, right, go ahead,

563
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: go ahead. No, I I like I said, I had

564
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: some fun with our old friend Jerry Thornton yesterday. Jerry

565
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: was doing Jerry chimed in on Twitter, is like, now

566
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: all these people that you know called Mac, you know,

567
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: like a whiney little now that now he's the second

568
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: coming to Jack Tatum and I just aren't nice to

569
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: have you back. Jerrybody, I missed you. I don't think

570
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: people are looking at at it that way. Yeah, it's

571
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: not like that. This is not it's it's not like

572
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: this guy is out there like Vontez. Perfect is the

573
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: guy I think that he used. He's not trying to

574
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: maim people. It's cheap, chippy, little dirty stuff. It's Danny Ainge, Yes,

575
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: it's Dan Perfect stuff perfect. I just said no, I

576
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: got no, I got no tolerance for all stuff. Mike.

577
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: Mike is way worse about this than you and I.

578
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: We both we both were like, yeah, well that I

579
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: was kind of it really bugs Mike. You should see

580
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: Mike when these plays first happen, he gets really off.

581
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: And my hope is that this fine will be like, hey,

582
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: cool it. You know, it's just it's not hard, Like

583
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you know, it's not hard

584
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: to I just there's so much about his demeanor in

585
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: these situations where maybe he just needs a little bit

586
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: of success. I think that's probably like this whole season

587
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: is probably weighing on him too. Um, but it's a big,

588
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: big thing for me, Like the offense I'm I'm upset about.

589
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: But when we get to Mac, that's like the first

590
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: thing on my mind is just like your demeanor getting

591
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: past this stuff, like be an NFL quarterback, be a

592
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: leader that these guys can look to calm under pressure,

593
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: something bad happens. We know you're not going to lose

594
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: your mind and dive at somebody's legs, but hopefully, hopefully

595
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: the fine maybe changes his attitude a little bit. Okay,

596
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, like you said, success is the

597
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: best thing, you know, like like I can't imagine the

598
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: pressure he's under because every second of every day while

599
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: he's in this facility, he's got to be it's I

600
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: got to prove myself. I gotta prove myself as a leader,

601
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: as a winner, as a quarterback, as this, as that,

602
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: and it must be really tough, you know, like he's

603
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: on he hears the zappy chance he I'm sure people

604
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: tell him about what people are saying about a good point.

605
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: You know, like every second of every day he's here,

606
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: he's under you know, intense scrutiny, and even if it's

607
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: not real, it's in his head, it's it is, you know. Yeah,

608
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I just I think with Mac for me too, there's

609
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: just an element that he's trying so hard to be

610
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: everything to everyone. That's sorry, I just quoted an ever

611
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: ever sort something there, but you know, like it's just

612
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: like he immediately came in and it felt like he

613
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: had read you know, Bill Belichi's guy to dealing with

614
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: the media, things to do and not to do, Like

615
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: he memorized that and we still get it now. He

616
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: doesn't really say anything. He gives you a word salad um,

617
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, and it's and it seems almost like it's

618
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: is it more energy expent making sure that you're doing

619
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: saying everything right? And can you just relax and can

620
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: you get you know, I maybe this is more a

621
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: question for the coaching staff, like, well I just relax

622
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: and play the game without having to worry about checking

623
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: every box. I think he was done, but I think

624
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: that he had more to give. And I'm talking about

625
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: chad Ocho Sinko. He was so bottled up when he

626
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: was here. He couldn't be himself and like, like I said,

627
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that he would, but I think he

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: could have been a little bit better if he was

629
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: a little bit more relaxed because like he would have

630
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: this bad play and he knows I'm not going to

631
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: see the ball again, maybe for the rest of the day,

632
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Whereas in Cincinnati you drop a pass, so I'm going

633
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: to get a pass. He was gonna get ten targets

634
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: every right, no matter what. And to Freddie's point, he

635
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: was the like the the poster child for that guy

636
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: that you could actually see thinking as he was running

637
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: his routes, Yeah, like am I doing this right? Am

638
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: I cutting at the right spot? And saying right, it's

639
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: a hard way, and he wasn't himself, you know, and

640
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: like you said, being that bottled up, it's hard to perform, Yeah,

641
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, isn't it crazy just to tie

642
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: it to this whole offensive shift and we want to

643
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: be able to play faster? I mean has anything been

644
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: less true than that? Like, I mean, like playing fast

645
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: like you guys can't even get on the same page

646
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: and run the right plays it much less all beat

647
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: together and go quickly with pace. It's just yeah, I'm

648
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: not sure. Yeah, it's there's a lot of dynamics to

649
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: this season, which you know, maybe we'll find out more

650
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: once the season's over, but it's it's it's a complicated season.

651
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: The thing is just like frustrating this event for a

652
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: second too, is like you gotta come on Sunday Monday

653
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: morning and you got to hear Darren Orlovski again, go

654
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: on a whole video, you know, diagramming just how completely

655
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: dysfunction of the offense is. You got Kurt Warner posting

656
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: a screenshot of like, guess who this team is, and

657
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: it's clearly the Patriots because what's at the top third

658
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: and four, you know, like you can easily discern that.

659
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: You know, then you've got the mac Jones videos going

660
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: around of him sticking his foot out and trying to

661
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: take people's knees out, like it just sucks, Like I

662
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: just like, I just hate this whole thing. That the

663
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: way this season is gone and that these are the

664
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: things that you're dealing with. Is listening to the rest

665
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: of the NFL basically just dunk on you that you

666
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: have a completely dysfunctional off and listen, I was wrong.

667
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: I thought Patricia could do the job. I was wrong

668
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: at least this season. He's not doing it well. But

669
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not taking any shots to you. Yeah,

670
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick up for him when people

671
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: get it on the radio and call him this, you know,

672
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: fat buffoon and more, that's that's BS man, you know, Like, Okay,

673
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: so he got put into a position where he wasn't

674
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: cut out for and he's not doing well. But man, like,

675
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, like he's not a moron, He's not a

676
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, like the things that people are saying about

677
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: him are just completely ridiculous, and you know, I kind

678
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: of feel bad for him right now. He's in a

679
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: position where he was asked to do something he said, Okay,

680
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do it, and you know, I don't.

681
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I think I think neither the person who asked him

682
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: nor him realized how difficult it is. You know. Yeah,

683
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: it could be true too, Yeah, it could be could

684
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: be like that. I mean, clearly those are cheap shots

685
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: on the radio from you know, mostly from from blowhards.

686
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: But but it's it's not just fans. It comes yeah,

687
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: the analysts, It just comes from. It comes up the territory.

688
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I've heard I hear that from about

689
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: people around the league, and I don't get my back

690
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: up and defend it. Man, how many people tell you

691
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is a moron? Yeah, well they hear that

692
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: all the time. Just moron, just gonna go for it

693
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: on fourth down and right, yeah, like that he invites

694
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: on his own. I just think that that's part of it.

695
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: When you don't think the guy's very good, you call

696
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: him names and stuff like that. I agree. I mean

697
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, Fred, I just that doesn't

698
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: bug me as much, like like you can criticize his

699
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: work without getting like down in the gutter like that.

700
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, it just bothers me. You know,

701
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: luck goes into it. But I'm not even gonna give

702
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: you a hard time for thinking that it would work,

703
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: because I don't know how much you really thought it

704
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: was gonna work. I think you were hopeful. I was hopeful.

705
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: I think you were hopeful, and you you you approached

706
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: it I think with a little bit more of an

707
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: open mind than most of the rest of us. Yeah,

708
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: most of the rest of us decided it wasn't going

709
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: to work before it started. You said, I don't know

710
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: if Bill wants to do this. I got faith in Bill,

711
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think that that's a stupid take you

712
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: even though it was wrong, I still say having been

713
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL is worth something. It's like,

714
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: you see, from that total vantage point, it's an incredibly

715
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: difficult job, and you know, then having having that experience

716
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: and then going back, I think it's beneficial. But it

717
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: doesn't always work. You know, it doesn't always work. Yeah,

718
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: and in this case, it didn't. All right, And I

719
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: mean I still think that they had it hasn't better talent.

720
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, how could they not. I mean this just

721
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: looks like an not an NFL offense. I mean they

722
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: have NFL players on the team. It shouldn't look like this. No,

723
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the makings of a very

724
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: good offense, but it shouldn't look like that. It's not

725
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: the thirty second ranked offense. Yeah, I still which I

726
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: still contend that they are underperforming. I agree, Yeah, yeah,

727
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: I think we all know that. Yeah, could I get

728
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: them to like eighteenth? Like you know what I mean,

729
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: what's the ceiling? Can you just make me a middle

730
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: of the pack offense? Yeah, like a black offense as

731
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: opposed to a dismal one. Right, And if you did that,

732
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give it better as the defense situationally,

733
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: because they feel like, you know, you're gonna give them

734
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: a little something from time, I'll give you like just

735
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: what speaks volumes like son Saturday. The game's I mean,

736
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: it's first in goal from the five. And I said

737
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: to Mike and Davin at the time, if I were Cincinnati,

738
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: I'd let them score and then I would have no

739
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: I would have had no fear whatsoever. The worst that's

740
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen is we're going over time. Provided he makes

741
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: the field, they might have missed it. There was a

742
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: lot of miskicks a lot of miskicks that day, but

743
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: they were going to get into field goal range. At

744
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: at worst, I think they may have scored a touchdown

745
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: and won the game. But so I'm talking about this

746
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: with some people and they were like, dude, what makes

747
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: you think they were going to score from the five

748
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: yard line? I was like, what, he goes. I mean,

749
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: it's the worst red zone offense in football. More often

750
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: than not, when they get down there, they don't score.

751
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I've heard that. So I was like, wow, I'm like,

752
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: I thought they would. I thought it was inevitable they

753
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: were going to score. Yeah, you know, and that, and

754
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: so much so that I would have invited Cincinnati to

755
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: let them score to preserved time. But there's no guarantee.

756
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: But you know, the guy said that to me, and

757
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: I had no response, like when yeah, but no, you're right.

758
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: They more often than not when they get down there,

759
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: they don't score. Somebody, you idiot. They suck you to you.

760
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the listeners on this Tuesday. UM,

761
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: we'll start with Eduardo in La. What's up? Eduardo? What's up? Guys? Um,

762
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: very emotional roller coaster last game. I don't know. Every

763
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: time you see Mac Jones play. I just get discouraged

764
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: every game, you know, Um, but with the playoffs almost here,

765
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: with us having a shot to get there, if he

766
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: screws up big time versus a Dolphins, does he get benched? No?

767
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Do we see that be coming? No? I don't think

768
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: there's any gain to doing that, you know. I well,

769
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: you know what, let's put it this way. If it's

770
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: clearly him and there's just still a chance to win,

771
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: maybe they do it because playoffs are still a possibility.

772
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: But I just don't know how it would have to be,

773
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: like it would have to be so all about Mac

774
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: to bench him, you know, like there's no other explanation

775
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: why we're not playing well today. I don't see that

776
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: happening though. I mean, to Paul's point, the lack of

777
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: turnovers lately is probably what has at least solidified him.

778
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what it would be to get him out.

779
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: He's just he's just like the goalie in hockey giving

780
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 1: up goals. We gotta get we gotta make a change. Yeah, yeah,

781
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: I mean I think if you were gonna do it,

782
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: if if there was an inkling, I think he would

783
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: have done it on Saturday because the offense as bad

784
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: as it can get. And I think he was part

785
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: of the bad Like I'm sorry he was part of

786
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: the bad. Um. You know, aside from the ball that

787
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Thornton dropped, which I thought was was a good enough

788
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: throw to make a big play on, I didn't see

789
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: a whole lot of good out of the quarterback. And

790
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: to you a point, Fred Boat, when things are going bad,

791
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: he hasn't really turned it around with his mentality. Um.

792
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: I thought he did a better job of not you know,

793
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: complete and let it, letting everybody know that the coaches

794
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: just messed up. Yea, he didn't do any of that

795
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: in this game. I didn't, at least not that I saw, um.

796
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: But there was just no answers. And if Bill didn't

797
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: make a like I was really watching at halftime, I

798
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: saw it like Mac really sprinted to the steps to

799
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: get out at half. At half. Yeah, And I think

800
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: they mean he may have been in retrospect, maybe been

801
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: a little irked with the whole we're gonna go out,

802
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna throw a pass on first down then call

803
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: the time out. But I don't really trust you. I'm

804
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: just gonna take a knee hearing right go like I

805
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: think that might have been bugging him, and I was like,

806
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: this is something to keep an eye on. But when

807
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: he came out to start the second half, he was

808
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: throwing and running on the sideline like he was helmet on.

809
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: Going back in the game. I had my eye on Zappy. Yeah,

810
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: and I think if we didn't get him there, I

811
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna get him all right, Eduardo, thanks

812
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: for the call. Let's go to Spi and Fresno. What's up? Speed?

813
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Danny Angel is a good one. Spread. Another one is

814
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Bowen. He always used to find a way just

815
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: to kind of stick his foot under somebody else's like

816
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: an offensive player right when they're shooting, like Bruce Bowen,

817
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Yeah, there's a lot of basketball players that

818
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: I like that. It's a it's a good sport for

819
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: that for just kind of like cumulatively like subtle yeah,

820
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Yeah. You can't really get back at him.

821
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I was hoping I could try and

822
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: start a Paul and Fred fight. Um, what do you got?

823
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: So don't last? Don't give up yet? What do you

824
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: got guys? Last week, you guys had to kind of

825
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: it was it was a really interesting back and forth

826
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: about how Bill maybe how Bill would react, uh if

827
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: and when Craft approaches him about Patricia in the off season,

828
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: and Fred was just basically like, Bill's gonna see what

829
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: we're all seeing, but the offense, and he'll be on

830
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: board to shake things up. But Paul was, and I

831
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: think I might be more with Paul and this pop

832
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: up Bill would be more like hesitant theraist and kind

833
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: of like, well, make the change. But I don't want

834
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: to make the change. That's the fear. And and um,

835
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: I guess I wonder if you're trying to do the

836
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: dangerous thing of reading Bill's mind. Um, do you think

837
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: that he's all of you guys? What do you think

838
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: is he putting? Is he putting too much of this

839
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: stuff what's going wrong on the players kind of at

840
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: the expense of really clearly seeing what's wrong with the

841
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: coaching stuff with his coaches. I think that's as word about, well,

842
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: that's that's like if they would just do the system

843
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: the way me and Matt and Joe are telling him.

844
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Do you think that that'sibilities? No, I don't. Do you

845
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: think that that's what I'm asking I'm not trying. This

846
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: is not an argument starter. I'm asking, do you think

847
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: there's a chance that Bill thinks it's them not us? Well,

848
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I'll here's what I'll say. I guarantee he's hearing that

849
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: it's them not us. And you know that's what coaches

850
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: are telling him because they're sticking up for themselves. So

851
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: he's hearing that from the coaches. No, but he's hearing

852
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: from the players that it's them not us. And coaches,

853
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: But what do you think do you think there's a

854
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: chance that he thinks, yes, if they just exactly what

855
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: Mike said, just did what we told him to do.

856
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: We just executed the plays are there to be executed well.

857
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: And every week everybody has seventeen plays where I see

858
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: a guy. You know, I think it's all deceptive. But

859
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: here's here's the thing that maybe we all need to

860
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: worry about. Let's let's go back to practice. Right, So

861
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna go back. Bill hasn't stopped coaching in practice.

862
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: Like it's not like he always has coached in practice.

863
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: Even though there's an OC and a wide receivers coach

864
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: and a defensive line coach, he still goes in and

865
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, walks in and coaches during practice, So it's

866
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: him telling guys what to do too. So what we

867
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: have to worry about is that he does feel like

868
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: it's the players. That's my concern, and that's kind of

869
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: the concern about if Robert approaches him, well, I mean,

870
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: if I don't want to leave, I want to stay,

871
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: and if this is what you're telling me I need

872
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: to do, then I'm going to do it. But you're

873
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: kind of going along to get along, and that's not

874
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: the best environment in my opinion. It would be much

875
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: better environment if he says, I took a shot, it

876
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: didn't work right. We need to make chances. Yeah, doesn't

877
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: Robert always have like an end just to be like,

878
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, Billy, You've always said when things are going right,

879
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: it's because the players, and then going right, it's probably

880
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: because of the coaches. I mean, isn't that what am

881
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I wrong? That's what he says publicly after games. I

882
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: don't know what he says to Robert. Yeah, I just

883
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: think that's hisses. Why didn't it work with Mac? Like

884
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: then then you turn to the players, all right, Well,

885
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: if it's on the players, why can't you pick these players?

886
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean Mac was pretty good last year. So do

887
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: we have to get all new players now because these

888
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: players can't execute what you guys are trying to sell. Now,

889
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: that's my question. But I think everybody's hoping what Paul

890
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: said that they'll acknowledge how bad, and I don't. I

891
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: don't rule that out. Like I think that he's a

892
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: smart guy and he sees he sees the ineptitude of

893
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: the offense. Imagine more than just it's more than just personnel.

894
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: And you can do it in a way that you're

895
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: not killing your your friend Matt Patrician just but you

896
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 1: have to admit something. You have to admit that, Yeah,

897
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: I put him in a bad position. And you know

898
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: what else, Fred, he could also admit it and say, like,

899
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily because they didn't know what they were doing.

900
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: It's because they wouldn't embrace it. They wouldn't accept it. Yeah,

901
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, and if they had just been willing to

902
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: accept it, But like that ship has sailed, it's not

903
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: they're not going to accept it, right, Yeah, So you

904
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: can blame Mac and the guys that he has following him,

905
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: or you can blame Patricia for not you know, getting

906
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Mac on board. Whoever you want to blame. That's fine, Yeah,

907
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: but but Bill has to step back and look and

908
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: say it's not going to work because it's dysfunctional, right,

909
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: and you know, like the way it would work would

910
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: they would have had to have had immediate success. And

911
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: then the players are like, oh, okay, this is okay.

912
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: But remember, you know, we keep harping on it. This

913
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: hasn't looked right since training camp. Didn't even look right

914
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: in practice, like you know in seven on seven, same

915
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: exact thing, you know, it's the same exact thing. I mean,

916
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. In some ways, it's almost like

917
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: just fascinating to me because I remember having the conversation

918
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: during camp of is it possible that we're gonna get

919
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: to the season and all of a sudden, this is

920
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: just going to come. Remember we kept saying okay, and

921
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: remember Paul being like, yeah. The first day, the first

922
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: day of practice in short still, I remember it was

923
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker with fifty fifty balls and Kendrick Bourne just

924
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: running all over the place, making plays and jacking up

925
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: the crowd with energy. That's the only day the offense

926
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: looked passable the entirety of camp. Yea, and yeah, I

927
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: did in the back of my mind saying, well, you know,

928
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: I that they might. Yeah, but once the once the

929
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: offense looked equally inept in the preseason games, when you're

930
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: playing against vanilla coverages, like a lot of ways, going

931
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: against your own defense and training camp is harder than

932
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: going against the an opponent who's just you know, doing

933
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: whatever six four six two stack monster. In the preseason games,

934
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: they're just calling the defensive signals. They're not adjusting, they're

935
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: not game planning. And when it didn't look good there either,

936
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: I was like a couple of shots. You know, there

937
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: are a couple of like deep plays mac. Oh, that's

938
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: a nice deep throw, right, Yeah, you know I had

939
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: a deep one to a Galore I think in the

940
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: first Eagles Yeah, I don't know. And Vegas and who

941
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: was the first preseason game Carolina Giants was the first Giants,

942
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Carolinas Giants. I remember one deep ball to Aggalo the

943
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: preseason and everybody was like, I was like, no, I know,

944
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: I know, orff those were I mean, that was a

945
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: huge piece of the offense there. Early on, it was

946
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: like every play, remember, I was losing my mind. Well,

947
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: spe we got it's gonna be an interesting offseason, we'll see. Yeah.

948
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: I like Paul stop point earlier also about how the

949
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Indie game coming out of the by last season, that

950
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: was a real inflection point. Um, so I just think

951
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, I don't know how you take the sum

952
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: total of Max's body of work coming to the end

953
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: of the season, how you kind of weigh in his

954
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: sophomore or the rookie wall thing against what you've seen

955
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: in this season. But just still trying to figure that

956
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: guy out is just disappointing this later but in the

957
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: game in the season that I still don't really know. Yeah,

958
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: that guy. Yea, all right, thanks Be, I think you know. Yeah,

959
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: Chad's in Atlanta. What's up, Chad? Hey, Phyllis good. Good

960
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: to talk to you again, a long time listener, first

961
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: time calling in a very long time. I got two points.

962
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I'll get through him really quick. Um. First one's about Mac.

963
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: Seconds about Bill. With Mac, I just I don't think

964
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: he's the guy. I don't. I don't personally think Dappy

965
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: is either. But I don't really know what the what

966
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: we can do with the quarterback position with what we have.

967
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: I kind of think Bill was I don't know if

968
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Suckers the right word into drafting Mac. But maybe he

969
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: was infatuated with him due to his relationship with Saban.

970
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, um, but I definitely do think Mac

971
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have the intangibles. He has slow reads and he's

972
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: just the ball is slow getting there. Um. I just

973
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a laser. So I think that calls

974
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: us problems. But on to the second point, I think

975
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: it all starts and ends with Bill. Um. I think

976
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: he made things worse this season when he pulled Mac

977
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: after he threw that interception and put Dappy in. I

978
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: think that got in his head and I think that

979
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: caused the problem. And we can criticize Patricia and Judge

980
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: all we want to, but Bill ultimately is the one

981
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: that made the decisions to put them there. Um. His

982
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: smug like non answers with the media is getting very

983
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: old to me. And as far as just like an

984
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: overall coach's concerned, I just don't think Bill got it anymore.

985
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he has it. He had a call

986
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: yesterday when I was on chat on the sports Aide

987
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: that took took me and us to task for not

988
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: calling out Bill for his sour answers. I go, I

989
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: don't really think it's the media's responsibility that tell the

990
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 1: coach he needs to answer the more. Yeah, I could

991
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: see where that's more annoying when you're not like he

992
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: didn't when you were winning and you didn't care about it.

993
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you care about it. Yeah.

994
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean for me, it bothered me, then it bothers

995
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: me now. But there's nothing's going to change about it, right,

996
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's like I said, it's it's

997
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: not my like. I'd be way out of line if

998
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: I went into a press conference said Bill, don't you

999
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: think you should answer these questions a little bit nicer? Yeah?

1000
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Us go away? Yeah, go away? Old man Uh. On

1001
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: the phone right now is mister Lyff. We haven't heard

1002
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: from you in a long time. What's up, mister Lyff? Hey,

1003
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: it's so good to reconnect with you guys. I hope

1004
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: you're all doing well and having a great holiday season.

1005
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,959
Speaker 1: Are you been touring the world or what are you doing.

1006
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: I've been I've been touring the world, just wrapped up

1007
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: a well. Actually we did a Northeast tour um which

1008
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the smartest thing to do in

1009
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: the winter. But we luckily got through the whole Northeast

1010
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: tour without getting hit by snow until the very end

1011
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: when everyone wanted to fly home to be with their families.

1012
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: Right yeah, so that that that caused them problems for

1013
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: just about everybody in the band. But uh, but no thing.

1014
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: Things have been good, good, good, So people don't know.

1015
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: Mister Lyff is one of our local music producers here, Um,

1016
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: friend of the show, accomplished musician and producer. We're just

1017
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: all around good guy. Yeah, great guy. One of the

1018
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: created the original theme song for PFW. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

1019
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: We got a bit of a history, fellas, and it's

1020
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: been enjoyable the whole ride. And as you know, I've

1021
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: maintained my silence for a while here, but I had

1022
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: to call in because I just I'm just fed up,

1023
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: you know, I'm fed up and I'm and I'm disappointed

1024
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: in so many regards of what's going on with this team,

1025
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: particularly this season. Um, I'm not a believer in Mac

1026
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Jones at all. I just I just think he's a

1027
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: bad quarterback. I personally believe that he makes everyone around

1028
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: him worse. I think he's goofy everything from his his

1029
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: his overall antics, whether it be on the spidelines, you know,

1030
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: when he's you know, got injured in Baltimore, tried to

1031
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: hop up. I think most things that he does just

1032
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: look goofy to me and don't embody the character that

1033
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking to see in a in the leader of

1034
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots at a quarterback position. As far

1035
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: as Bill's decision making, you know, for me, the only

1036
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: fun part of this season was when Zappy was playing period.

1037
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: That is when I felt like I was watching Patriots

1038
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: football watching his ascension. I know people will make the

1039
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: argument that the Browns are a week team, and you know,

1040
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: the Lions, particularly at that point in the season, were

1041
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: a week team and Dappy did beat them. But I

1042
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: think that it was evident to the entire fan base

1043
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: when Zappy took the helm in the Green Bay Packers

1044
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: game on the road, that the kid had poised. He

1045
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 1: embodied a lot of those elements that I think people

1046
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: wanted to see, and that's why there was Dappy Fever.

1047
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand why Bill Belichick felt that it was

1048
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: necessary to at that time prematurely we inject Mac Jones

1049
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: into the lineup. When Zappy was rolling in the whole

1050
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: fan base wanted Dappy to play, and that bears game

1051
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: to me. At that point, Bill broke the spell of

1052
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: the magic that had been casted, and since then, since

1053
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: Maca's returned, Patriots Football for me has been virtually unwatchable. Um,

1054
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: I just think that he is. There's nothing I like

1055
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: about what I'm seeing at all. Um, Once I saw

1056
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: a Zappy get into the game, I honestly I never

1057
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: I didn't care if I ever saw Mac Jones play

1058
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: another Donald football. To be real with you, guys, I've

1059
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: been done. I've been done for a long time. I

1060
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: feel like we wasted this season. I feel like this

1061
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: this this roster, as presently constituted, could would be a

1062
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: playoff team and would win at least one playoff game

1063
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: under Zappy's leadership. I just think that Mac is a

1064
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: complete stiff and I'm done. Wow. Okay, mister Left hard words,

1065
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: don't be a stranger, don't be a strange. All right, Yeah,

1066
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: come by if you want to luck Bud, all right,

1067
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: thanks for hearing in front of you. All right, mister Left,

1068
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: who is he? He's a localst rapper, um and producer

1069
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: and uh you know called in one day, said he's

1070
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: a big fan of the show, sent us his CDs

1071
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: and everything, and then he created one of our first

1072
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: theme songs. Do you have that? Yeah, let's let's play that.

1073
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: Let's play This is a mister Lyft creation. All right,

1074
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: let me let me know when you have. Yeah. So

1075
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: he's been in um, he's he's he's been a guest

1076
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: on the show. But he he travels the world. Um,

1077
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: and he and his uh, his band and you know

1078
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: they put on shows all over the place. Yeah. Yeah,

1079
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: so he's out on the Patriots, I guess. Yeah. But

1080
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: he's a big fan. I mean no, I mean, like

1081
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: not the only one, like like that's a good I

1082
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: mean he's a he's a real fan. You know, he's

1083
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: not just like you know, uh Johnny come lately. He's

1084
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: been a fan for a long time and this this

1085
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: is really bothering him. You know, I understand. M Evans here, Yes, sir,

1086
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: how you doing? Okay? I was I was giving you props.

1087
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: You know at some point though, we do need to

1088
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: go over your list of grievances, because I know that, yes,

1089
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: you made a list, but the team or with with us,

1090
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: with us, But I was giving you props because a

1091
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: lot of analysts in twenty two guys are on the

1092
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: spacing layering bandwagon, but you were on that like weeks ago. Yes, uh,

1093
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: I have come to terms and I'm not going to

1094
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: be triggered by the mister lyft is that lift flif flift.

1095
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be triggered by his call because

1096
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: I have come to terms with the fact that Mac

1097
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Jones is just unlikable. He's just an unlikable dude, right,

1098
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: And that's I can't listening. Didn't like Tom Brady either.

1099
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I can't change people's minds about that, right, Like, if

1100
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: you don't like his his attitude and the quote unquote

1101
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: dirty plays that have been have been circling, and like,

1102
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: if you don't like those elements, I can't. I can't

1103
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: change your mind and I'm not going to argue with

1104
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: you because that's personally your feeling towards the quarterback. If

1105
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: you put this film, especially from the second half, on Saturday,

1106
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: and you just changed the jersey, changed the name on

1107
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: the back of it and just said that this was

1108
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: quarterback X and here was his second half, people would

1109
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: be saying he played great, okay, right, but they don't

1110
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: like them. So I can't you know? I posted on

1111
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: Twitter before I got here the whole shot that he

1112
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: hit the Kendrick Bourne on the right sideline, an absolute

1113
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: seed right like it. The throw was an absolute dime

1114
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: far hash whole shot into cover two. And if Justin

1115
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 1: Herbert makes that throw, it's on ESPN. It's, oh my god,

1116
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: what a throw, right, And then I post the throw

1117
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: of Mac Jones making it. It should have been intercepted.

1118
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: It was the wrong read. It was this. It was

1119
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: that negatives. Right. You're not going to change people's minds

1120
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: at this point, so it's it is what it is.

1121
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to change people's minds. And I think,

1122
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, I can kind of already speak for you, Paul,

1123
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: because I think you're gonna say. I ain't saying nothing, Paul.

1124
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: If you win, all of this goes away, right. I

1125
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: think that that that that's a big thing about it too. No,

1126
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: I think if his play is the same and they win,

1127
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a much more positive outlook on him.

1128
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I think if they scored thirty

1129
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: five points every week and one, that's different. But when

1130
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: you score a touchdown every game, people are upset. People

1131
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: are like you, Fred, this isn't normal passing offense, right.

1132
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, no one said they didn't make any good throws,

1133
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: but not enough. They don't make enough good They don't

1134
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: make enough plays like the one Evan just talked about.

1135
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: That was a good play. I know the play he's

1136
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, but they don't make enough of those.

1137
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: And I mentioned the one that he put on Thornton's hands.

1138
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: Thornton has to catch it, right, certainly a good enough

1139
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: throw for a big chunk play, and he didn't catch it.

1140
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: But that's not on match. It sounds like to me,

1141
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: Evan from your film study, the body of work in

1142
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: the second half was good for him. No, the body

1143
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: of work for him, for him, for him, for him. Yes.

1144
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: So here's the biggest thing from the first of all,

1145
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: the first half and sprinklings in the second half as well.

1146
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: I think one of the notions is that the second

1147
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: half was a well oiled machine and the first half

1148
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: was a dumpster It was a dumpster fire for four quarters.

1149
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: It was bad for four quarters. What happened in the

1150
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: second half was that Mac and Kendrick Bourne made some

1151
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: plays right, and that I think mass the fact that

1152
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the same issues came up in the

1153
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: second half that came up in the first half. It

1154
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: just luckily they made some plays. Individuals made some place.

1155
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: So I thought that this tape on the whole was

1156
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: actually pretty was fine. From back, I thought it was

1157
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: pretty good. Their offense, their passing offense, is making mistakes

1158
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: that I can't even explain in words of English high

1159
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: school college Like, it's just the spacing is terrible, the

1160
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: communication is terrible. The routes themselves, if you just look

1161
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: at the breakdown the technique of the routes that these

1162
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: receivers are running terrible across the board. I mean, Mac

1163
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: is sitting there and they're showing all out pressure and

1164
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: he's tapping his wrist to send a signal to everybody

1165
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: that it's just that he's gonna check to his screen

1166
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: because they're gonna send a pressure and nobody, nobody looks

1167
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: for the ball. They all just run up field like,

1168
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: and maybe that's on him that they didn't get the

1169
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: signal right, and maybe he's got to bark at them

1170
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: and say, hey, right right, hello to side with the

1171
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: revers to the right, yes, And then they didn't even

1172
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: blitz right and then they didn't even blitz, which that happens.

1173
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Burrow, The same thing happened to Joe

1174
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: Burrow right where they they showed blitz and then they

1175
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: backed off and he checked into his screen and the

1176
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: same exact thing. So that piece of it happens. But

1177
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: you have guys that are just not even looking for

1178
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: the football. You're calling a screen. Nobody's running the screen. Yeah,

1179
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: you Telly like pull it up. And he was like,

1180
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: like you could literally talk for an hour. And I

1181
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,479
Speaker 1: know that Evans watched all these plays a million times

1182
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: and he knows all the different things that did wrong,

1183
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: like all the different things like during the course of

1184
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: the game. Unfortunately, the very last play of the game, Okay,

1185
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: I know you have no shot, Okay, but you're gonna

1186
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: go out there on fourth down and you're gonna throw

1187
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: the ball as far as you can do you know

1188
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: what happened on that play They had alignment called for

1189
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: being illegally downfield. Ye. Like, it just to me totally

1190
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: encapsulates the ineptitude on that side of the ball that

1191
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: we've seen for fifteen games. Yeah, one thing I wanted

1192
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: you brought up born making plays and of course the

1193
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: theme is where's he been? Why have they playing? Bill

1194
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: hadj every rice he's been in Mothball, Bill an answer,

1195
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, why haven't you been using him? And he

1196
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: had he said no particular reason, and everybody was gonna

1197
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: say he had an answer, and everybody, everybody was all

1198
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: over him. But you know what I was thinking about that,

1199
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: It's like he could be just blowing you off, but

1200
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: he could also be saying no particular reason. It's a

1201
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: whole bunch of reasons why he hasn't been playing. You know,

1202
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: maybe he meant that. Maybe he meant there's no particular reason,

1203
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: but there's a million reasons why he hasn't been. Maybe,

1204
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that maybe he that was his prepared

1205
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: answer for anyone that I'm just gonna that's not the real,

1206
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: the real thing that he meant, because that, to me

1207
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: is even worse. If he's like a litany of things

1208
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: that he's done wrong and he's out there, that makes

1209
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: me feel he had to be out there because he

1210
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: didn't not. If he's done a litany of things wrong,

1211
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be active, that shouldn't be on the team.

1212
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about agree, I'm just talking about reasons

1213
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: why other guys are playing ahead of him, you know,

1214
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: and at that point you had to get him out there, right,

1215
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, um, because but that what that could have been,

1216
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: what he meant. There's no particular reason, but there's a

1217
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. Yeah. I hate to Kendrick Bourne because

1218
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: he was the only guy that actually played well on

1219
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: offense in this game. But at the same time, Scott

1220
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Johnny Smith killed right like he So they're running, you know,

1221
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: a stick to Johnny Smith and then Kendrick Bourne runs

1222
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: an under in this to the same spot that Johnny

1223
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: Smith is running the stick, and so he gets sandwiched

1224
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: between two defenders and and gets and gets put into

1225
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: concussion protocol right there. There's no there's no level of

1226
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: football that tells you to run those two routes next

1227
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: to each other. And that could be. One of the

1228
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: reasons is that he's just not playing smart. He's not

1229
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: using his head out there, you know, as talented as

1230
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: he is. That's I think what we don't know. And

1231
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: that's right, you know, I don't know. I don't think

1232
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: up this way, and so you know, it's just where's

1233
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: the communication. I mean, certainly it's not being coach properly

1234
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: or relate to the players. But it also seems like

1235
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: they're not locked in multiple senses of pre snap calls,

1236
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: changes to the play. They're they're not all on the

1237
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: same page. And I mean, Paul, you know, it's like

1238
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: you keep pulling out perfect examples of like they're just

1239
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: so many because they keep doing it. There's like if

1240
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: you could just say, you know what, we have X,

1241
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: Y and Z that's really going well, but A is

1242
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: really hurting us, then you could fix it. But every

1243
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: time you fix A, X, Y and Z go hey wire. Right,

1244
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: that's the problem the Patriots this year exactly one day

1245
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: because we stink. One day, you're driving it right down

1246
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: the middle, but you can't hit an iron to save

1247
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: your life. Right the next day, you can't chip or put.

1248
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: The next day you're all and you're in the woods

1249
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: off off of every t like because we stink, right,

1250
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: I think that I'll leave the last part out. If

1251
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: they got everybody mentally on the same page. I'm not

1252
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: saying they'd be some elite offense, but I think that

1253
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: they would at least be representable. Yes, the issue that

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Speaker 1: they the biggest issue that they have right now is

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Speaker 1: before we get to scheming and play designing and secret

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: in all the details of running a good offense. The

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: biggest issue that they have right now is that guys

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01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: are not running the right routes right, Like they just

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01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: aren't on the same page. Some guys are running one play,

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01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: another guy's running another. Like on the play that Hunter

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: Henry gets hurt on, Johnny Smith is just crossing over

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: the field and he's looking for the ball the whole

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Speaker 1: time because he doesn't expect that Hunter Henry is going

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Speaker 1: to be there right right. And you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the things I was saying earlier, Evan, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree with me, but there's

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01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: no way that this is just rearing its head in

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01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: the games. It has to be happening in practice, yeah,

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01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: you know. And so like that's that's my problem is,

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Speaker 1: Like you could say, well, it's the players they're not executing. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that it's just in the game that

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Speaker 1: they're not executing. Yeah, you know, it must be happening

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: in practice. Well, I do think that there is some

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01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: element espec because I've asked that question privately and because

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Speaker 1: I have had the same exact reaction as you like,

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Speaker 1: if it's this bad and practice, how are we not

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01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: coaching it up? Right? Like? How are we not correcting this?

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01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: And I look at everybody wants to point out Patricia,

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01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: But Bill's watching the same practices too, right, right, so

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Speaker 1: right if he's seeing this and Bill Belichick is not

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01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: correcting it. And I think the best explanation that that

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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: I got was that the practices that they have right

1283
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: now are not truly live bullets, right, Like, they're not

1284
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: truly live and you can't simulate what it's going to

1285
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: be in a game and a practice, especially list late

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: in the year with all the rules and stuff like

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: that and pads and everything. But we're talking about spacing.

1288
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: But in a walkthrough, yeah, it's very easy to jog

1289
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: to the right place that you're supposed to be in

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01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 1: and and and make the cut and whatever. But when

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01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you have to go and

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01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: do it in a game. And now you're adjusting the

1293
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: play at the line of scrimmage, and now stop stop

1294
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: right this, stop right there, because you know, here's the play,

1295
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: here's the play. Here's the part of the play sequence

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01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: that applies to me. I know the route I'm supposed

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: to to run, right, that's don't overthink it. But like

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01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: you said, okay, line of scrimmage adjustments, pre snap adjustments,

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01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: that's the part that maybe you can't simulate in practice.

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: So somehow like even that, like there has to be

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01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: a way to address that, like early on realizing Max's

1302
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: not getting everybody's not on the same page, there's there

1303
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: has to be a way to overcome that mid season, right,

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: And then you also get you know, you know, what

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01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: coverage is the defense running and how does it adjust

1306
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: based off the coverage in this But I think in

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: this in the second half or what I think, and

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: I try not to fall into the trap of the

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01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota game with the second half because I didn't want

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: to overhype it and be like this is replicable and

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: this was a turning point for this offense, like some

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: of us did against Minnesota. And I think the problem

1313
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: that you have with the replicable piece of it is

1314
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: that they basically just stripped it down to bare bones

1315
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: in the second half and they were running four verticals

1316
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: and like you know, just basic basic passing concepts, remedial offense. Yeah,

1317
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: just like literally day one install like mini camp stuff,

1318
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: because all the checks and this and that and everything

1319
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: was in the first half was an abject disaster. So

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01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: they just ran four verticals like, they just ran guys

1321
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: up the field and Mac made you know, the throw

1322
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: to where it was best. Yeah, I thought this was

1323
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. This is a quote from Matt Patricia

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: this morning on that first third down. We've talked so

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: much about a little insight I think into what we're

1326
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: talking Maybe when we went into that play, we had

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01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: a really good play that we practiced and thought we

1328
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: had a couple good options on it. I think we

1329
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: saw the play a little bit different on the field

1330
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: and got to just clean that up. From that standpoint,

1331
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: we saw the play a little bit different on the

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: field because of the defense that they were. We thought

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: they'd be in covered. But I think that maybe that

1334
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: is a big problem that if that's what he's saying,

1335
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: that happens to every team. How do you know what

1336
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get? Right? Don't you don't know what you're

1337
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna get. But I think it's an example of what

1338
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: we talked about before Everon joined us, with the fear

1339
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: of the coaches think it's on the players, the players

1340
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: think it's on the coaches, right, coaches telling you there,

1341
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: we thought we had a good play. They saw it

1342
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: a little bit differently on the field, right, that we

1343
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: did right, Like, that's how I interpret that. I don't

1344
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: know how you went to hell like in other words,

1345
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: like the play was there, they didn't run the right roads.

1346
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: But it's which I agree with news because I'm with Evan.

1347
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: There's no design, nobody ever designed to play to have

1348
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: your tight ends run crosses and smash into each other.

1349
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: News flash, though the other team's trying too, like they're

1350
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: trying to did someone bump bump someone off the road

1351
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: a little bit? You know? I don't know. The worst

1352
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: part about the first third down is, at least the

1353
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: way I see it on the film, the Bengals bust

1354
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: the coverage and there's nobody on Johnny Smith. And if

1355
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: he just doesn't collide with Hunter Henry, then there's a

1356
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: completion there on the film. But like I said earlier

1357
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: about the play, he never looks to where Hunter Henry

1358
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: is going, which if there there is a play, no, no,

1359
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: John Smith is looking for the ball the whole time. Okay,

1360
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: And and there is a play that's called you know,

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: I call it usually mesh and they do cross right

1362
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: like that? Is there a mesh point, right? There is

1363
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: a design that they intersect like that. But when they

1364
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: run that play, the receivers don't look back for the

1365
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: football until they clear each other, right like, they run

1366
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: it and then they clear each other, and then we

1367
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: look for the football because we have to make sure

1368
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: we don't run into each other. That's a good explanation. Yeah,

1369
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: he's not the mesh point. He's talking about something a

1370
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: little bit. In other words, he wants them to cross.

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01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be looking to make sure that they

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01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: don't bang into each other, and they don't look for

1373
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: the ball until after you've cleared right right. I think

1374
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: that's what you explain. And most teams like to get

1375
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: it down to bare bones on that play. A lot

1376
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: of coaches will teach the players to actually high five

1377
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: on the field in live action and not like that.

1378
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: But the point of doing it's the point of the

1379
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: high five. The point of the high five is to

1380
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: get the spacing down right is to you, because you

1381
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: really do, you're creating a rub against man coverage. You're

1382
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: trying to pick off the man coverage defenders, so you

1383
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: give the high five as a way to make sure

1384
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: that you're close enough but you're not on top of

1385
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: each other and you're not colliding. So if that was

1386
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: the design, Johnny Smith didn't know that was the design

1387
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: because he doesn't do that. He just keeps running right

1388
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: and he runs right into Hunter Henry. Plus Hunter Henry's

1389
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: running a square in and John who's running acrosser. Like

1390
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: I just I can't, for the life of me figure

1391
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: out how square in and a crosser are on the

1392
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: same on the same diagram like that. That's just not

1393
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: a play design that exists. And I know we're getting

1394
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: ready to take a break, but real quick, did did

1395
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: you you feel like these issues? These spacing issue has

1396
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: been a problem all year right, all year right, So

1397
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: Troy Bryant was asked about it and he doesn't don't

1398
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: think it's been a big problem. I asked him, did

1399
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: you hear that I asked him about it? I asked

1400
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: him about it a few weeks ago, and he was

1401
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: a lot harsher about it than he was today. So

1402
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: maybe he's getting a little sick and tired of the question,

1403
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: or maybe it's like he's starting to hear people say,

1404
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: what's the wide receiver coach to him because that has

1405
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: started to happen. Maybe, yeah, it's just circle. But just

1406
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: like concepts in the passing game. There was another one

1407
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: with kenry Bourne, like it's yeah, I agree with Evan,

1408
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: like they have too many plays where it seems like

1409
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: there's multiple guy. There was a play that they they

1410
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: made a big play against the Raiders that I thought

1411
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: was going to get knocked down by another receiver, like

1412
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: because I thought the guy in now wisely they let

1413
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: it go, but I thought there was a chance that

1414
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: he was going to go for it and it is

1415
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: going to prevent the I think it was Myers. I

1416
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Forget. I think it was against the Raiders,

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01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,759
Speaker 1: and I think it was Myers, But you know, me Cte,

1418
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: I forget, forget the little things. Yeah, it's it's been

1419
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: a problem all the year. I mean a good example

1420
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: of it was the overthrow to Johnny Smith in the

1421
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: end zone against the Raiders. It was not not Mac's

1422
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: best throw by any means, but Tai Kwon is running

1423
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: an under and john is running the corner and Taikon

1424
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: just takes ten hours to get out of the break right,

1425
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: Like he's just standing there trying to like throw fakes

1426
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: and like whatever. And the under route that Tai Kwon

1427
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: is running is to declare where the corner is on

1428
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: the outside is going. Is he gonna drop or is

1429
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: he gonna match the under? Because if he matches the under,

1430
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: it creates the separation for Johnny Smith and Mac has

1431
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: to throw it to the back pylon and basically make

1432
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 1: a perfect throw because Taikwon never gets into the route,

1433
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: so he doesn't know what the corner on the outside

1434
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: is doing. So these little spacing things. It's not just colliding, right,

1435
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 1: it's also just the way that the play unfolds. It

1436
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: makes it impossible for the quarterback to read the coverage

1437
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: because they're the defensive backs are not declared. Doesn't look

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: the same way, right, I don't know. All right, we're

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,839
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1655
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1657
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1658
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1659
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1661
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1663
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Speaker 1: We'll start with Darnell and Florida. What's up? Darnell? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Can you hear me? Okay, we can. So,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you guys for getting us through

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Speaker 1: these typicult times like you guys always do for the

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Speaker 1: last few years. Huh yeah. But I'm wondering. I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: if we're going to um do anything at all about

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Speaker 1: um Matt Patricia. First of all, like everybody else, UM,

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Speaker 1: I think that not. We're going to asked for another change,

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01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: and we've seen how um back is. We change, first

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Speaker 1: of all, UM, and that's what excuse me now, So

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01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna go into this next season, we

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01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: want to change maybe you know, a different coordinatle and

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Speaker 1: are we gonna ask for Matt input at this point?

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Speaker 1: But where we go from here? I think that you know,

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01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: the organization is we're at a really suck point, you

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: know what I mean as fans and as a team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to know what you guys thought.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, I mean, like what does Bill think?

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Speaker 1: What does Bill think about a quarterback? You know why

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01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: we know what our fans think and people are kind

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Speaker 1: of split or maybe it's you know, more against him

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01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: in form at this point, but like what does Bill think?

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01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: And that's what we're all trying to figure out. Does

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Speaker 1: he think it's the players, does he think it's Mac,

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Speaker 1: Does he think it's the coaches? We don't know. We

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01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: have no idea really, you know, I mean, he can't

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Speaker 1: be happy with it. The way the press conference on

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Speaker 1: Thursday made me feel like it seems like he just

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: came off watching them do what they do on the

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Speaker 1: practice field because he was not not happy, not in

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Speaker 1: any kind of mood to do anything. Came in with

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Speaker 1: you know, winner coat on. But I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just what we're all hoping that he sees what's

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: been going on and says we got to make some

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01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: significant changes to to rejigger how this is working. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I would be you know, maybe if like

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Speaker 1: somebody like Mayo left or you know, something, that could

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01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: kind of be the catalyst to like, all right, let's

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01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: kind of restructure a little bit, let's move some guys

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01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: around and and really maybe bring in some some new minds.

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01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 1: But the thing is, like, if Bill thinks, you know,

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: Max's just not on board, he's not getting a bub

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01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: He's not going to ask his input on a new

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01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. If Bill thinks he needs a new offensive cording,

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01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, like a second year quarterback, I'm

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01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 1: not saying that like he is intentionally kept out of

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01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: the loop, but I'm not really all that interested in

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01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: his input on the offensive coordinator. True, Like Aaron Rodgers,

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01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, yeah, Peyton Man, guys that have been in

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01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: the league for ten plus years. Yeah, you want to

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01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, what, what do you know about this guy?

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Speaker 1: You know you're comfortable with this guy, Mac Jones two

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Speaker 1: years in right, right, I don't know, Like, again, I'm

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01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 1: not intentionally shutting him out of the process either, like, I, oh,

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Speaker 1: if you know we got an offensive quiting it, don't

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01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: let Mac know who that is. No, that's not what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, this is a guy with thinking about Mac.

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Speaker 1: You know, why don't you guys talk to you know,

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01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: let me know what you think or whatever. You know? No, no,

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Speaker 1: do better. But you know by helping, I don't. He

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01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: doesn't help. He does. He's one of them. Like I'm snarky.

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Speaker 1: He's flat out me Like, I don't know. Like again,

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01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: like Paul said, you know, Deuce didn't like Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what, like, what's not the opposite?

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01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,799
Speaker 1: I like all the quarterball? What's gonna make you happy?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We gotta get back to thirteen win seasons,

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Speaker 1: Fred twelve, he's I need fourteen wins. Actually it's seventeen. Ah,

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Speaker 1: let's go to John and Maine. What's up John? Oh? Job?

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Speaker 1: Party on the hell with you guys? Does that mean

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Speaker 1: a strong option? Does that mean strong option? That's a

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Speaker 1: crap sheet speak. That's what you're talking about, Bill O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: is a strong option for patriots. That was the report

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: over the weekend that lifted the report from Burt Brere

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: and you know, like a month or later. What is

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Speaker 1: like really? What does that mean? He's a strong option?

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01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: I agree, like like you think he is? Is he really? Are?

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01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: They think like that could mean anything? I agree, I

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01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: know exactly who thinks it is m But like what

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Speaker 1: what's kind of been for the what the catch twent?

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01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:41,839
Speaker 1: He's only dropping on him Brook today? Yeah? Yeah, unless

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01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: but like what that's ridiculous? Well that's I mean, there's

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01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: just so much of it. And of course, of course

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01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: he's a good fit. I don't think anybody I say,

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01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know anything, but he's a good fit.

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01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: Of course, he was here, he knows how it works,

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Speaker 1: He's been around. He's an offensive you know his mac

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01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: a little bit of course. But oh that's so desperate

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01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: to make a headline. I don't think it's them who's

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01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: desperate to make it Mac, I don't think. No. Together,

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Speaker 1: thank higher and keep your mouth shut up. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Sean and Vancouver. What's up, Sean. I'm here, Eavan,

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Speaker 1: I speaking, Hey Sean, thanks for not hanging up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome. No, I understand where Mossillis is coming from.

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Speaker 1: Was zappy and I don't I don't I think there's

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Speaker 1: more to it than that, because when they brought in Zappy,

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Speaker 1: they simplified things. They said, we're gonna go with the

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Speaker 1: run game. They were fortunate to have six strong offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen where it was working or weren't able to run

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Speaker 1: the ball and youth play action and Zappy showed success

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Speaker 1: with that. And when they went back to Mac against

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Speaker 1: the Bears that he couldn't do that, and then they

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Speaker 1: brought Zappy and he couldn't do it either. When they're

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Speaker 1: coming from behind, you can't you can't like have that

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Speaker 1: same play action success. So it wasn't so much that

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Speaker 1: Zappy is necessarily better this season than Mac. It's it's

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Speaker 1: just nothing's working. And I saw Mac play well last

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Speaker 1: year and I still remember that, and I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 1: Izz he broken. Can Can we fix it? If we

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Speaker 1: bring in better players on the offensive line, we bring

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Speaker 1: in a top receiver M and we bring in a coach,

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Speaker 1: we bring in coaches that can can we put him

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Speaker 1: back on track to be a possible solid starting quarterback. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good question. So, I I mean, I don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know if he's going

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01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: to be what you need to get to take on

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01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen consistently and and go toe

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Speaker 1: to toe with those guys. But I just think with

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01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: a competent offensive system coordinator, everybody's on the same page that.

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01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he showed it last year. He was he

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01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: was an average quarterback, which at this point I'm sure

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01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: we would all take. But yeah, I think I think

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01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: he can definitely be better. I don't know how good

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01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: he can be. I don't know if he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: going to take the Patriots to their seventh Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: But I think that he can be a serviceable starter

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01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: and as we've seen the last couple of years, keep

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01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 1: them in the mix and around the middle of the

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01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: league and those those kind of rankings that stuff. Oh hey,

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Speaker 1: name doesn't get brought up a lot? No, I mean

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01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about Bill and Matt, but no one's talking

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01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: about Joe Judge a lot. Dude, like as the quarterback coach. Now,

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01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: you know, like you wonder what input what Rolie has

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01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: in this whole thing. He's kind of he kind of

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01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 1: drew the lucky straw. I think this year of you're

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01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit out of a spot.

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Speaker 1: Like Yeah, but I mean I'd put him right in

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Speaker 1: the mix with everybody. And I mean I think just

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01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,719
Speaker 1: go down the list of issues we've been talking about.

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01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: Everything's an issue. I mean you can point at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback coach for some of this stuff too, of Mac

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01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, Russian to change the play, not making sure

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01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page, those kind of things like

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where the overlap is for

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01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: each individual responsibility, right, I just I look at Bills

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01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: responsible and Maddie p and Joe Judges accomplishes who were

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Speaker 1: kind of thrust into this position. Yeah. Carla is in Florida.

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01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: She says, love the show. Paul was discussing the Heaven

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01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: Can Wait movie. It's so funny. Anyone that loves football

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01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: has to see it. I looked it up. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a bomb that didn't flop. He had like

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01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Oscar nominations and wins and stuff. Oh well, then I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of a Warren Baity that movie that flopped it Washtar,

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Speaker 1: that's the one that's like a famously terrible movie. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: sorry huge. As for the Patriots, hoping the twenty twenty

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01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: three season will bring some positive changes. Not a big

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01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 1: fan of Mac, but maybe he needs another chance with

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01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: a real creative offensive coordinator. I feel for the defense

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01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: who seemed to be always keeping us in the game,

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01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: only to see the offense screw up those opportunities. But

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Speaker 1: you know, like, but that's the thing, Like, okay, so

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Speaker 1: now you bring in this really creative offensive person, how

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Speaker 1: is that going to make anything better if guys can't

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Speaker 1: run routes or community you know, like, well that's what

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01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: he's got to that's what this part of coordinating the offense.

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Speaker 1: You know, the question is is they having a hard

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01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 1: time running the routes because they're not being properly explained

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01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, right learned or whatever, or they're not.

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01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: They have flawed designs to them that are you know,

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01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: more susceptible to you know, bad spacing and whatnot. I

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01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: don't there's a lot of things that we don't know,

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01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying there's a I just think at

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01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: least you can see there's a lot of factors that

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01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 1: the players don't have a big picture of what they're

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01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish. And I think a lot of times

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Speaker 1: what the Patriots are trying to do on both sides

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01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: of the ball is to have players who aren't just

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01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: learning a position, but are understanding the whole concept of

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Speaker 1: how they fit into that. And so if they have

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01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: to move like a guy like you know, Dugger, who

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01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: you're playing in multiple kind of positions, is that you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he only knows one position. He knows

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Speaker 1: the concept. It doesn't seem like any of these guys

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01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: know the concept and how they're It seems like they

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Speaker 1: kind of have a sense of what they think they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to do maybe and they're doing that and not.

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Speaker 1: Evan's point on that play in the end zone with

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Speaker 1: Jono Smith the one that Mac made the throw wide

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Speaker 1: to the back corner and it took Thornton forever to

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Speaker 1: sort of clear out of the way. Do you understand

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Speaker 1: that what you're doing is important on play? Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: it affects everybody right right right, how you fit into it,

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Speaker 1: even though the ball is probably not coming to you.

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Speaker 1: What you're doing is vital and do your job and

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Speaker 1: you're one of eleven is they like to say. And

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Speaker 1: that's such a big part of it to me as well,

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Speaker 1: which is why when we talk about potentially next coordinators,

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01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill O'Brien's the most creative offensive genius,

1872
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's one of these wizard schemers

1873
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But it's just a level of

1874
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: professionalism that I think that this group needs to get

1875
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: back to, of everybody being on the same page, having

1876
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: a concrete plan that everyone understands, and like he's a

1877
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: professional offensive coach and that's what he brings to the

1878
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: table help And I think the biggest thing, you know,

1879
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: you guys are pointing to all these good examples. They

1880
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: had multiple dropbacks on Saturday with unblocked blitzers coming off

1881
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: the edge just guys unblocked, unobated to the quarterback, just

1882
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: completely untouched to the QB. And that point comes back

1883
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: to what's the plan? Like when we get to the

1884
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and we see that they're showing pressure,

1885
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: what's the answer? And so much of quarterbacking offense in

1886
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 1: general when it comes to pre snap is is problem solved? Right?

1887
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Like you have a blitz that they're showing, and a

1888
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: couple of times the Bengals didn't even disguise it. They

1889
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 1: just came all up at the line of scrimmage and

1890
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: we're like, we're coming, and they just don't seem like

1891
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: they have the tools to then go ahead and say,

1892
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna move the running back over here.

1893
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move the tight over there. This guy's my hot.

1894
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: Like they don't have a plan for what's going to happen.

1895
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: So what ends up happening is they you know, they

1896
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 1: slide to protection one way, it leaves the backside completely unblocked.

1897
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: He comes in on blocked. Then everybody's running vertical rounde.

1898
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: So it's like, even if he wants to throw hot,

1899
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: there's nobody to even throw hot too. So there's just

1900
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 1: no plan in place to be like, when we get

1901
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: this look, this is what we're going to do for it.

1902
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 1: And that to me comes back to the week at practice.

1903
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 1: It comes back to game planning and preparation and coaching

1904
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, because we never it

1905
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: wasn't that they never missed a blitz or never you know,

1906
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: got pressure on a blitz against them or anything like that,

1907
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: but you could always explain on the film, this is

1908
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: what they were trying to do to pick up this

1909
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: blitz or beat this blitz. And now you just never

1910
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: can understand how is he supposed to survive that play? Like,

1911
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: how is he supposed to get the ball out here?

1912
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 1: How are they supposed to get it blocked? You know,

1913
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 1: they're sliding the protection into the left hand side and

1914
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Trent Brown and Kevin Harris are blocking the same guy.

1915
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 1: But then the backside at rusher is unblocked. So you

1916
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: had two you had two on one, so you had

1917
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: the numbers, so you had the numbers to block it,

1918
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: but you just didn't configure the guys the correct way.

1919
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: And if I had to downgrade Mac anything in this

1920
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: game significantly, I would say that that is partially on

1921
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback right like it's his job to get the

1922
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: protection set and to get everybody in order pre snap

1923
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: and make sure that everything gets picked up. And the

1924
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 1: one on the goal line, they catch them right, so

1925
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: he does a little hut hut right and they all

1926
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 1: like show it and then he's like, oh wait a second,

1927
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: here they're coming. So now we got to make adjustments.

1928
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: And you see him alert alert. You know this is

1929
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 1: the mic. You go and it's still unblocked, so you know,

1930
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: where's the where's the disconnected? Yeah, it's Matt in Ohio

1931
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: writes in Hello, mister Jake Steel and the Boys the

1932
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: most hated filling for Tony. Ask mister Paul Perilla what

1933
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,759
Speaker 1: I loved angry Paul yesterday and listening to him treat

1934
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: these Boston fans that the idiots they are. Were you

1935
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 1: hard in the fans yesterday? Paul? We had three different

1936
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: guys that legitimately called in and I think they were joking,

1937
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 1: but they didn't let on they were joking that said

1938
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: it was a jinx. It's a Tom Brady jinks it's

1939
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: been a jinx because we wear red uniforms like the

1940
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: British like. And these were legit calls that Tim mccon,

1941
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: let go. He got to the point where me and

1942
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 1: the producer were on Tim McCone to let him go

1943
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: on too long? It was tough. And then there was

1944
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: the ten and five guy, the guy called into the

1945
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: Patriot should be ten and five? Okay? One anyway, please

1946
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: put me out of my misery and end this awful season.

1947
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: All these garbage teams other than the top ten teams

1948
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: need to stop playing the rest of the year. This

1949
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: year has been ridiculous for terrible football play and coaching.

1950
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,759
Speaker 1: After watching these coaches continue to lose games for their teams,

1951
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: I can't get on board with firing Bill and starting over.

1952
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: Bill is stubborn, but I feel he's a smart coach

1953
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: and will make the changes he needs for next season. Also,

1954
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: please eat John O. Smith's deadcap money and move on.

1955
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: So let's play a game. You just tell me yes. No,

1956
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to think about it, you don't have

1957
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: to qualify it. Yes, No, can win the Super Bowl? Oh,

1958
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 1: the game was a foot Thanks back, Buffalo. Can they

1959
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: win the Super bowl sre? Yes? Buffalo, Kansas City yes,

1960
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: Cincinnati yes, yes, Baltimore no No, Los Angeles Chargers No,

1961
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans Jacksonville Jaguars yes, yes, Patriots no, Dolphins, Jets. Okay,

1962
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: so that's it. So yeah, I mentioned San Francisco. That's

1963
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: the other conference I haven't started. So we had definitive

1964
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: yes for three teams and one person said yes with

1965
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, Fred Jason, Okay, so we'll call that

1966
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 1: a three and a half and the NFC Philadelphia yes,

1967
01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: Dallas yes, wow, Um, San Francisco yes, yeah, Minnesota yes,

1968
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: I know if we're not if we're not going to

1969
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: be intellectually honest, um, they're they're ten and o one

1970
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: and they were eleven and on one score, which is

1971
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: not a good indication. Okay, but they have moxie yeah, okay,

1972
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: they have Giants no no, um, Commanders, no Packers, No Bucks,

1973
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: I say Packers, yes, Bucks, not the way, No that offense,

1974
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: no way they got it this year. Yah. Packers. Yes.

1975
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 1: I think that's insane. I think that's I's not equally

1976
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 1: as insane as your Jags. Not nowhere. They have Aaron

1977
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers yeah, and they could be coming on at right now.

1978
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't care a lick and he's never been good

1979
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: in the play. Yeah. When he made that throw to

1980
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis off his back foot with the three dudes

1981
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 1: in his face, it looked like he didn't care. Wow,

1982
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: just like all you have to do is make one

1983
01:41:57,880 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: thrown in an NFL game, and Nevin just wants to

1984
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: marry Aaron Rodgers. I'd married. Yeah. I think you're making

1985
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 1: the point that there's only a handful of teams that

1986
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: can even compete for Yeah, I would have I would

1987
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: have it at five. Yeah. Well, you think the league stinks,

1988
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: you always have? No, I haven't always you and Andy.

1989
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 1: I did not think the league stuck in two thousand

1990
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: and three and four two years when they were playing No,

1991
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying like in the Heart of the Dynasty, when

1992
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots were playing like back to back MVPs in

1993
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs, I did not think the Titans stunk when

1994
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: they were when they were beating the Titans in the

1995
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: playoffs and oh three, I didn't think the Colts stunk

1996
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: when they were beating the Colts in the playoffs in

1997
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,879
Speaker 1: OH three and Old four. In sixteen when they played Broncos,

1998
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: Widler and the Texans, Yeah, I thought they stunk even

1999
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: though they were a playoff team. I didn't think they

2000
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 1: were any good tim Tebow and the Broncos double by.

2001
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: That's when I coined that for Yeah, those teams double by, right,

2002
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: So I didn't all. I don't always think the league stinks.

2003
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: Sometimes it does. This is one of those. Yeah, this

2004
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: is a down season. So you just got Philly in

2005
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: the NFC in San Francisco. Dallas can't win the Super Bowl?

2006
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: Why because they're not good enough? And then I well

2007
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: coached enough. Wow. The reason why I said yes to

2008
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: the Packers was because I just feel like that's gonna

2009
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna hot me. Dallas is gonna win the Super Bowl.

2010
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 1: They could very well be an eighteen Patriots thing where

2011
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: they just get hot at the end of the year

2012
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: and Roger Packers plays out of his mind. Yeah, I know,

2013
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 1: I know why said. And their defense is actually pretty solid.

2014
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be, but it hasn't really looked

2015
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 1: very good. It's been better as of late. I mean,

2016
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: they obviously did what they did to two in Miami,

2017
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: and I just liked the I like the first half

2018
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: of it. I like the players that they have on defense. Gary, Yeah,

2019
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: I love I love that Gary. Uh. I just I

2020
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,440
Speaker 1: just this quarterback for San Francisco. You know can they Yeah,

2021
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 1: that's a that's a concern. Um. Remember we're talking about impossible.

2022
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 1: Then I guess you can have a one. Uh, you

2023
01:43:53,840 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: can score one. Um. Kennon Poughkeepsie says six one is possible,

2024
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: but it never happened. Team scores a touchdown, goes for

2025
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: the two point conversion, offense somehow backtracks ninety eight yards

2026
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: and takes a safety in their own end zone on

2027
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: the two point conversion, resulting in one point for the defense. Yeah.

2028
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: I have heard that that that's remember the other day

2029
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 1: when I was when you said that, and I should

2030
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I think there's some kind of obscure thing that never happened. Yeah,

2031
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 1: that's I think someone had written in about that. I

2032
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: think it's a safety on a pat as opposed to

2033
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 1: the defense returning a pat is two points. Yeah, but

2034
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: I don't really know why the difference in the scoring.

2035
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: A couple of interesting things here, just to point out

2036
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 1: Philip Perry. We've we talked about it though, Phil Perry

2037
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: saying here on Sports Hub realistic job Mayo could be

2038
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: gone next season. That's following a report as well from

2039
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: h Andrew Callahan who said something similar. So some Jim

2040
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: McBride asked Mayo directly top of the top of the

2041
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: question and an answer session today, you know, would you

2042
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 1: still be interested you interview with the Broncos last year

2043
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: and said, yeah, he thinks he's he's ready to be

2044
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL. So I think the

2045
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: underlying factor there with the Phil Perry stuff because I think,

2046
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Cummeron immediately when Hackett got fired yesterday

2047
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: immediately said you know, yes, But to me, the way

2048
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: that Phil Perry talked about this, he's looking to spread

2049
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: his wings. I believe that Gerardmeyer will be a coach

2050
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: somewhere in the NFL next year, not in New England,

2051
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 1: and it might not be a head coach. I think

2052
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: he's out of here. I think he's out of here

2053
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 1: because he knows there's no upward movement here. Correct right,

2054
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: because I actually think, you know, we've bashed the offense,

2055
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, but defensively, and I know people are

2056
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 1: going to push back on the first half and whatever.

2057
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: But as poorly coached as they are offensively, they are

2058
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: very well coached for the most I don't think. I

2059
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: don't think they're very good and we're not going to

2060
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: argue about this because I think we kind of think

2061
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, I don't think they're very good defensively,

2062
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: but I do agree with Evan that they get absolutely

2063
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 1: everything out of the out what they have defensively. That's

2064
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: a sign of good coaching. I got. I gotta hand

2065
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: it to them. They that's a sign of good coach.

2066
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: You're getting the most out of what they have. And

2067
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: they spin the dial, They run everything in the book.

2068
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 1: They they do pretty much everything that you possibly can.

2069
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: They're running five eight corners out there against six foot

2070
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: four receivers and I know he beat Marcus Jones twice

2071
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: for big plays down the field, but it could have

2072
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: been five times and it wasn't, you know, because they're

2073
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: running different coverages to get the ball away from te

2074
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Higgins in those one on one matchups, the pressure schemes

2075
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: like they time up that zero blitz at the absolute

2076
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 1: perfect time and get the pick six. Yeah, it's just

2077
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: they are a very very well orchestrated defense. I agree

2078
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: with you. I guess where I'm at though, is just

2079
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: trying to I don't think that there was good at

2080
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco's defense. I just wonder what's an acceptable like

2081
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: like it's really hard to play defense in the league

2082
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 1: right now, and so like that's why that's that are

2083
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: truly good. It's like, with a competent offense, I feel

2084
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: like this defense it would be good enough. I don't

2085
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: think they were very vetty, very many defenses that are

2086
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: capable of shutting down good offenses. This was a good offense.

2087
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: And they fifteen ned points, right if you count the

2088
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: pick six in their favor, three takeaways from a top

2089
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 1: five defense, what they gave up twenty two they scored

2090
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: seven of their own. Oh okay, so that's how we

2091
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: so were subtracting seven they allowed because they scored seven.

2092
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give the seven to the offense. I'm

2093
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: gonna give it. I'm not giving it to the offense.

2094
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 1: But I mean scored twenty two legitimate points, right, and

2095
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: they missed a field In other words, like six of

2096
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: the points weren't from the defense. No, no, no, yeah,

2097
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: that's how we made it sound like they only really

2098
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: allowed fifty Patriots. They didn't. They allowed twenty two. Patriots

2099
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 1: should have allowed thirty. The Patriots only scored twelve points

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01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: on offense. Right, that's that's fair, right, because the Patriots

2101
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 1: defense scored the other six exactly. But I'll say this,

2102
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 1: but having said that, I think giving up twenty two

2103
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 1: points against the Bengals is good. I give them. I

2104
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: give them credit for finding a way to keep them

2105
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: in a game. They absolutely found a way while everything

2106
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: was like Rome was burning all around them, and they

2107
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: found a way to pitch a shut out in side.

2108
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 1: Now I'm dead serious. I give them all the credit

2109
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,600
Speaker 1: in the world for that, and they deserve it. But

2110
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 1: teen points. But let's well, let's not like say that

2111
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: they didn't allow points that they allowed like they allowed.

2112
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: They allowed twenty two points, but they did nothing. They

2113
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: did nothing to keep five other points. I just want

2114
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 1: to understand Evans reasoning. He's take cordered, what do you

2115
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: mean my reasoning. My reasoning is is that they gave

2116
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: up twenty two points. Yeah, they scored seven of their

2117
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: own defensively on Marcus Jones's pick six six. So when

2118
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: it comes to net differential, there you go, oh, okay,

2119
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 1: but they gave up twenty two points. Yeah, of course

2120
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: they gave up twenty two points, because which is still

2121
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 1: good too. Yeah, it's okay. They gave up four hundred

2122
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: plush yards. I have a team missed a field goal

2123
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: and two extra points like it was okay, yeah, like

2124
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: they competed. I give them. Like I said, I there's

2125
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: certainly not the reason while you lost. The offense is

2126
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: the reason why you lose every week, right, not the defense.

2127
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: I would I would agree with that, but I just

2128
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: don't want to get carried away like what Mike said,

2129
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: with what San Francisco does, right and just pound you

2130
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: into submission. Yeah, okay, you know, like there's a difference

2131
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: between the other team is like converting fifty percent of

2132
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: their third downs and moving the ball up and down

2133
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: the field. That will you know, And if the Patriots offense,

2134
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 1: like ever, had a miscommunication like happened on the two picks,

2135
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: it would be all over the Mac and Patricia. It

2136
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 1: wouldn't be because they dialed up a zero blitz. Jamar

2137
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 1: Chase kept running, Joe Burrow read the hot route and

2138
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 1: threw it right to Marcus Jones because that's where Jamar

2139
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: Chase is supposed to be. Right. It's a good play

2140
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 1: by the defense, and with a really good play comes

2141
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 1: is Marcus Jones is electric and runs it back sixty

2142
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: nine yards. So instead of you just getting the ball,

2143
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 1: you score because he's electric with the ball in his hands. Absolutely,

2144
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: Malcus Jones didn't quit in that game. I'll tell you that.

2145
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 1: I think a lot of other guys should be looking

2146
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: in the mirror. He's not one. By the way, the yes,

2147
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: full disclosure, Jones, I have a crush on Marcus Jones.

2148
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 1: That's fine, full disclosure because Marcus Jones since the Bills

2149
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 1: game been the best player on the team. And by

2150
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 1: the way, the broadcast was wrong saying that the last

2151
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 1: player to score in all three phases was Edelman. That

2152
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: never happened. He never scored on defense. I said that

2153
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: to you in the press box live. I said, do

2154
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: you ever remember Edelman scoring a defensive touchdown? Never did,

2155
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: We didn't. The last time it happened was nineteen forty six,

2156
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: and it happened three times in that day. But I'm

2157
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: not even talking about the same season. I don't ever

2158
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: remember Edelman scoring good defensive down. And it turns out

2159
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: that he didn't. He never did a couple of specialties,

2160
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 1: so they were wrong. So he had a fumble return

2161
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, yeah, in in twelve, but it was

2162
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 1: on specialty. So what Marcus fumble game? What Marcus Jones

2163
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: did this year hasn't been done in the NFL's world

2164
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: since pro football, No, since the forties, I owe in

2165
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: one season, yeah, and once Seaon did it throughout his career.

2166
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, he's been the best player on

2167
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah. I'd say Marcus Jones one. That's worth

2168
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: looking up John that you just said that in his career. No,

2169
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: in in a season. I want to think he might

2170
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: have done it in a season, like I could see

2171
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 1: him scoring a defense with touchdown every year he played.

2172
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know and special teams yeah yeah, yeah.

2173
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones one, Joshing two. Those have been the two

2174
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: best players for the Patriots over the last month. Again,

2175
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:22,799
Speaker 1: he's awesome on offense, totally on defense, awesome returner. You know,

2176
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 1: how much can we get him on the field. It's

2177
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 1: unfortunate that I think all his workload is I think

2178
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: starting to have an effect on the return because they

2179
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: need the returns and he hasn't really shaken loose lately.

2180
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: I think Evans flirted with this. I think get him

2181
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: in the slot over Miles Bryant next year, um, where

2182
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: I think he can take a little bit more advantage

2183
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, um My thought on Uche though, is

2184
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 1: that it's great. I think next year you just need

2185
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins to kind of step up and then you

2186
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 1: can let Ucha walk and you'll have Ronnie Perkins in

2187
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: that third down. Well what if we bring back camera groan.

2188
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 1: I think with with Marcus too, that there's a lot

2189
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 1: of conversation about is he a better offensive player than

2190
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: you know, where's his ceiling? I think he's good either way,

2191
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 1: Like I think he is honestly great either way. I mean,

2192
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 1: of course he gainst Moss by t Higgins, who's eight

2193
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,719
Speaker 1: inches taller than him. It's just a bad matchup. So

2194
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: this week though against Miami, like this is they have

2195
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 1: John Jones and Marcus Jones that can cover hill and

2196
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 1: waddle like I don't think any other team has two

2197
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 1: four three guys that can cover and stick with those

2198
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:25,799
Speaker 1: two guys consistently. So I'm really hyped up to watch

2199
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 1: how they match up against those two guys because that's

2200
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: a great matchup. I just hope they keep playing Marcus

2201
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: Jones on offense and going forward to which he's going

2202
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 1: to have to play and like you said, get him

2203
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 1: back in the slot. That's offense. Benn and Brooklyn. He

2204
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 1: ain't going to get the ball like tool was like

2205
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. He'll do what too has been

2206
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 1: doing lately. Benn and Brooklyn went to the game and

2207
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: came away with several observations, but chief among them is

2208
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: that losing in that fashion was the best possible outcome

2209
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: this one. This team was never going anywhere, even if

2210
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: they should squeak into the playoffs. Two they showed fight.

2211
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: Three they entered the fact that they hit on the

2212
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones pick. Four, the offensive line actually played relatively well.

2213
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 1: Five No sense worsening our draft pick with a win.

2214
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: Six lack of speed and getting the play in hugely

2215
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: benefits the opposing d time to react, catch their breath substitution,

2216
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: if not outright delay of the game. The first and

2217
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:23,440
Speaker 1: second half disparity was revealing one hundred percent conservative predictable

2218
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 1: in the first half run on first and second, pass

2219
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: on third, but to clearly open up more in the

2220
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: second jet sweet long passes, use of Marcus Jones tremendous rally,

2221
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 1: but came up short. Microcos him of the season, You guys,

2222
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: Paul absolutely nailed the prediction that Burrow would exploit our

2223
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: cornerback's lack of height. And I commend John Rook for

2224
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,720
Speaker 1: being really early one and a half years ago on

2225
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 1: McDaniel's impending departure and its impact. Okay, okay, I'm not

2226
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,759
Speaker 1: a big fan of like, it's good that they lost

2227
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Now, if they had actually won

2228
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 1: these last two games like they should have, Oh, they'd

2229
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 1: be sitting pretty. They would maybe in. Yeah, they'd be in.

2230
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: They'd be sitting pretty. It's crazy now, I think we're

2231
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,680
Speaker 1: all kind of just expecting this is Patriots formula. We

2232
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 1: got a back up quarterback. What does it say though

2233
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: about this team if they can't beat Teddy Bridgewater here

2234
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 1: in a game. I don't understand that Teddy's just as good.

2235
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: This is not a good like this is not They've

2236
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: never beaten Tuah. Yeah, they've never been Even when Tua

2237
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 1: was not good, they couldn't beat Tuah. So I don't

2238
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 1: know why he's four and oh against them. And the

2239
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: games haven't really been competitive except that one game. I

2240
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 1: think when Damon Harris fumbled, right, kind of similar situation

2241
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: is as the Ramondre fumble. Yeah, but in all in all,

2242
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: they've gotten blown out. Well, I was looking too back

2243
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: at him. I mean, they would fell in a seventeen

2244
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: nothing hole in week one here. They fell into a

2245
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing hole at the end of last year as well.

2246
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's just an interesting dynamic. I mean,

2247
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: I think everybody's just kind of like, oh, we got

2248
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 1: it now. But I also think that it's kind of

2249
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: an indictment. If you can't beat Teddy Bridgewater with you know,

2250
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: really playoffs kind of on the lives, it's going to

2251
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: need him. Matt and Santan Valley, Arizona. Santan Valley just

2252
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: wanted to make a take a minute to scrunch up

2253
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 1: my nerd glasses and correct the caller Dwayne from Thursday

2254
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 1: when the Patriots drafted mac Bill wasn't asking Matt Patricia

2255
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: if he was good with the pick. He was asking Matt.

2256
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: Grow just wanted to throw it out there since it

2257
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 1: was bugging me all weekend. Oh yeah, that's probably right,

2258
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, like Macro really had to say, I

2259
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: just think it's crazy when we have to ride the

2260
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 1: press elevator down with Macro and Macro has to sit

2261
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: in there and there's not usually too much chatting going on.

2262
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 1: But it's just an awkward situation where somebody who put

2263
01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: the team together us to ride down with a bunch

2264
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: of us snarky a holes who are like whoa do?

2265
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean? That's why I try to keep it button.

2266
01:55:53,320 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: But it's just a weird situation. Yeah, um, let's see names. Pettigrew,

2267
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 1: the most interesting Patriots fan of the world, says, excuse me,

2268
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,800
Speaker 1: the British were to blame for the red uniforms and

2269
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: the losses. Yes, the British who he happens to be British? Yeah, whetish?

2270
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: That coming. Um, a couple more minutes here, so I'll

2271
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 1: take a couple of Well, let's take a phone call. Uh.

2272
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Craig from Richmond, California has been holding on. What's up, Craig? Hey,

2273
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: how you doing, guys? Time first time? Thanks for calling. Hey,

2274
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 1: So you guys talked a little bit earlier about the

2275
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,880
Speaker 1: Joe judge and so I'm curious. I'm a little bit

2276
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: more curious about the blame pie. Um, so like, do

2277
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: we know exactly what he was doing when he's with

2278
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 1: the giants around the offense? And I can take my

2279
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 1: I could take I could take well. Originally he had

2280
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: a coordinator which was Jason Garrett, and he fired him

2281
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: and took over basically the offense. Right, Well, am I

2282
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: getting that right? Freddy Kitchens took over the Freddy Kitchen

2283
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,320
Speaker 1: who was with Cleveland, who was also an actual But

2284
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: I thought I thought that Joe Judge was calling plays

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Speaker 1: for a while. I know that Freddy Kitchens was calling plays.

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Speaker 1: I think Judge had a pretty good hand in what

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Speaker 1: they were doing. Okay conceptually, but okay, yeah it was

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Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens. It was Garrett and Kitchens. But yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So does that answer your question? Did you want to

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Speaker 1: build off of that? I guess I just I want

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, I guess it does. I just want to know.

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Speaker 1: I just was curious about how much of the blame

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Speaker 1: we give to Joe Judge. I know, with Matt Patricia

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Speaker 1: calling all the plays, we get to see him on

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Speaker 1: TV and all that. But yeah, I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of times and thanks for the call, Craig.

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Speaker 1: Like after the play, Mack will sit down and he'll

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Speaker 1: sit be, He'll be sitting next to Judge. Judge will

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Speaker 1: have the tablet, right because Patricia has to be with

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, right, double duty? Right? What does he ignore? More?

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Speaker 1: But then like on a time out when he comes

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Speaker 1: to the sideline, he's talking to Patricia. Occasionally Judge will

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01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: come over and the three of them will talk, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes even Bill as well. But it's weird, like who

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Speaker 1: does he talk to when you know, like you would

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Speaker 1: think that he would talk to the guy call him

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Speaker 1: the place after each series as well, But like everyone said,

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Speaker 1: he's he's got other things. You know, it's just not

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Speaker 1: a good setup. Yeah, it's not a good setup. I

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Speaker 1: agree it's got a change. Um. Like I said earlier

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Speaker 1: in the show, I just hope that it's a change

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Speaker 1: that Bill thinks needs to be made. Right. You want

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Speaker 1: it to be his decision so that he's on board. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, but I don't know. It's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting. Are you excited about the offseason, Duce, because

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Speaker 1: I know you get excited about these things. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I can't work right, A lot of work to be done. Success.

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Speaker 1: I want to be excited with you, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I'll get there at some point. But I think it

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Speaker 1: comes back to do they see the issues right? Like

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Speaker 1: do they see the albums? Because somebody asked me in

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Speaker 1: the mail bag this week, what's like your five step

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01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: plan and it to me it's so obvious, like what

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Speaker 1: like especially the boxes that absolutely need to be checked.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't know if they think it's as

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Speaker 1: obvious and that until I hear Adam Schefter report the

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Speaker 1: Patriots of hire Bill O'Brien as their offensive coordinator. None

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Speaker 1: of it else, who they draft and who they signed,

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Speaker 1: They none of it else, None of it matters. All right,

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Speaker 1: we have a special treat today because the playbook with

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Speaker 1: John Rook got moved to a Tuesday, so special Tuesday edition.

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