1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: This is Buck's first thoughts, the news you need to 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: get for your day in forty five minutes. Make sure 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: you subscribe on the iHeart app or wherever you get 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: your podcasts. It has been one year since the killing 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: of George Floyd. We have a police officer who has 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: been convicted of murder in that incident, and today the 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: White House is meeting Joe Biden, the President of the 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: United States, is meeting with the Floyd family. And we 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: are told, and there are countless editorials, articles, commentaries, we're 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: told that this is a moment that we're supposed to 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: take a step back and think about how we could 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: reform policing and the defund the police movement. We should 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: consider that. That's where we are right. We're one year 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: into this, and the narrative at the left, the Democrats 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: want you to believe is that George Floyd's George Floyd's 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: memory led to the BLM movement, which brought about greater justice. 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: That's what they want you to think. That's the story. 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: That's the dominant narrative. That there's racist policing in America 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: where in a systemically racist society, and the BLM movement 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: is addressing that and has for the last year, and 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: there are things to point two to say we're successful 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: in that regard. Unfortunately, the reality of the BLM movement 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: and its usage of the George Floyd incident as an 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: inciting moment to go for BLM two point zero is 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: that Black Lives Matter has made everything worse for everyone, 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: which I was saying almost exactly a year ago, just 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: a few weeks from now, if you were to go 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: back and listen to this show, that was my assessment 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: then as the riots tour through cities as police or 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: being assaulted and mobbed and pelted and ridiculed spat on, 31 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: this was going to be bad for America, and it 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: would be bad for the black and black, black and 33 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: brown communities that we are told are the whole reason 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: for the defund the police movement, right, that it would 35 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: actually make things worse for everyone, including in predominantly minority 36 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: areas of the country where there is a high crime 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: where there is sometimes a high crime rate. Right, That's 38 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: what we are looking at right now. What has been 39 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: the reality of the last year. And I have to 40 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: point now as we are in this martyrdom worship of 41 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: the Floyd memory, which is really what's going on here. 42 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: They have elevated George Floyd as a symbol, a global symbol. 43 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: In fact, this was a man who, yes, our courts 44 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: found was the victim of police police excessive force and murder. 45 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: That is where the process stands right now. There was 46 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: a murder conviction, as we know. There may be an 47 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: appeal we shall see. But that individual, George Floyd, was 48 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: also somebody who pointed a loaded gun at the belly 49 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: of a pregnant woman during a home invasion, had a 50 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: long criminal history, and was someone used to resisting arrest. 51 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: So that's not to say that what happened to him 52 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: is in any way justified in that incident, but it 53 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: is to say that picking this individual as a martyr 54 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: for a movement is worthy of scrutiny, And I would 55 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: say criticism. I would say, why is it that it 56 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: is in these instances, these cases that we see, whether 57 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: it's Mike Brown or George Floyd, where law enforcement interaction 58 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: with somebody who was engaged in criminal activity and then 59 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: there's a dispute over the level of force use. That's 60 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: always the choice. It's not incidents where there actually is 61 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: what seems to be a clear it's not always, at 62 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: least focused on instance where there's a clear murder by police, 63 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: which does happen, although very very rarely, which if we're 64 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: going to have a serious and honest conversation about this, 65 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: you have to look at the numbers, the facts, the figures. 66 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: It is incredibly rare for anyone to be murdered by 67 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: a police officer in this country. There are, and I'm 68 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: telling you the truth, this is serious. There are more 69 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: people killed every year by beastings. Then there are people 70 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: who are unarmed and murdered by police in an incident 71 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: where the police officer is not using forcer appropriately. I 72 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: think there were unarmed black men in the last year 73 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: for which we have statistics, which would be twenty nineteen. 74 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: At this point, there were about nine or was it 75 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: fourteen that were killed that entire year by police in 76 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: an incident that may still have been lawful. But you 77 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: can't look at the numbers and come away from the 78 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: saying anything other than why so much exaggeration of this 79 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: as a concern in society. Why is that we can't 80 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: just treat each of those individual cases as worthy of 81 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: due process and the legal system and let the facts 82 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: bear out and any officer who exceeds exceeds the lawful 83 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: use of force should be held to full account. No, 84 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a narrative, you see. The narrative is that cops 85 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: are racist, cops are bad, and if only we would 86 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: defund police, we would have a better society, a better country. 87 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: That's madness, and we now see what's going on as 88 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: a result of it all across the country. A really 89 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: powerful editorial in the Wall Street Journal today from Heather McDonald, 90 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: the author of The War on Cops, and she writes 91 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: that nineteen children in Minneapolis have been shot this year. 92 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: Remember Minneapolis is where the George Floyd incident happened, an 93 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: increase of one hundred and seventy one percent over the 94 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: same period in twenty twenty. Their relatives wonder where the 95 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: protesters are. Quote, why ain't nobody mad about a ten 96 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: year old my grandson fighting for his life, asked Sherry Jennings, 97 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Ladavian's grandmother at a May seventeenth mayoral event. Because a 98 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: cop didn't shoot him? Is that why? Miss Jennings warned 99 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: of a deadly summer for kids if the mayor and 100 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the police police chief don't step up. Later that day, 101 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: Anniah Allen, six, was caught in a shootout between rival 102 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: gangs while in her mother's car. Annia died on May nineteenth. 103 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Minneapolis homicides Heather McDonald writes between January first and last 104 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: week were up one hundred and eight percent with the 105 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: same period in twenty twenty. Shootings were up one hundred 106 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: and fifty three percent and carjackings two hundred and twenty 107 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: two percent. The crime increase began after Floyd's death and 108 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: has never let up, nor has the assault on law 109 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: enforcement that began with the arson destruction of the third 110 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: Precinct building on May twenty eighth, twenty twenty. Officers are 111 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: routinely punched, kicked, and hit with projectiles. There was a 112 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: near riot in downtown Minneapolis in the early hours of 113 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: May twenty second, following a shootout among club patrons. Two 114 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: people were killed in that shootout and eight wounded. Responding 115 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: officers called for backup across the Twin Cities at what 116 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: the department called an exceptionally chaotic scene. The previous weekend, 117 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: officers were mas im pelted with rocks and debris while 118 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: trying to disperse orderly crowds, so there was a movement 119 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: for justice that started in Minneapolis a year ago. Today, 120 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: has it achieved any justice? Has it done anything to 121 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: the system? George Floyd had a trial where there was 122 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: a trial because of the killing of George Floyd. The 123 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: officer was found guilty of his murder on all accounts. 124 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: That was what happened. Why did we need riots, Why 125 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: did we need mass destruction of property, arson and violence 126 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: across the country as part of a movement. What did 127 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: the movement achieve? Well, we're seeing what the movement achieved 128 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: is more dead people are, more people raped, more people assaulted. 129 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: This is just based on the data and numbers all 130 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: across the country. And the Democrats use this for mobilization 131 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: in an election year. The Democrats used this entire incident 132 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: for the purposes of trying to win power, and it worked. 133 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: All the pandering, all the nonsense from people like Pelosi, 134 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, she's really all about the struggle. She 135 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: really cares a lot about what's going on in minority communities. 136 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: No one believes that all the pandering about how cops 137 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: are bad, cops are evil. Senior Democrats all across their apparatus, 138 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: they don't actually think that stuff is true. But they 139 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: say it, why because it helps mobilize the Democrat base, 140 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: activists and left wing voters. That there were people who 141 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: suffered as a result, innocent people all across the country. 142 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter that good cops, which people like Joe Biden 143 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: will say in passing, you know, most of our cops 144 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: are good. That good cops were defamed with all of 145 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: this and assaulted and attacked and undermining their jobs never 146 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: enters into the calculations of the left. They don't care. 147 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: They simply don't care. What you see all across the 148 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: country is what exactly what happened the last time after 149 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: the Ferguson effect, which was coined by Heather McDonald as 150 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: a phrase and who wrote this excellent p in the 151 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. There's more violence, more death, more despair, 152 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: and it is disproportionately in minority communities. And that is 153 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: what has happened as a result of this movement. So 154 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: as we sit here on the one year anniversary of 155 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: George Floyd, and you've a bunch of frauds and liars, 156 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: the activists claiming that this led to a movement that 157 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: did anything other than make things worse. I just want 158 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: you to know, right away. They're lying to you. They 159 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: are lying. Here's what Heather rights. As lawless as Minneapolis 160 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: has become, it is hardly atypical a drive by shooting. 161 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Our drive by shootings and homicides jump nationwide during and 162 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: after the Floyd riots. Homicides rose fifty percent in Chicago 163 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, forty six percent in New York City, 164 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: and thirty eight percent in Los Angeles. The US are 165 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: the largest annual percentage increase in homicides in recorded history 166 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. That increase has continued in twenty two 167 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: twenty one. The number of shooting victims in Chicago is 168 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: up forty three percent in the first three months of 169 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one compared with the same period in twenty twenty. 170 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Through May sixteenth, the number of shooting victims in New 171 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: York City is up seventy eight point six percent over 172 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: a year ago. In the Bronx, the number is up 173 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and seven one hundred and sixty five point 174 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: seven percent. We are at the one year mark of 175 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: George Floyd's killing and the movement that it spawned, and 176 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: we look at that movement and the data is clear. 177 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: It is a disaster. Built on misrepresentations and lies. What 178 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: does the White House? What do the Democrats offer as 179 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: the reason behind the huge spike? I mean, no one 180 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: can hide this data anymore. They can't argue about it nationwide. 181 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:58,479 Speaker 1: What caused the nationwide increase in violence in homicides, home invasions, 182 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: armed lobberies, rapes, Well, what caused all of that? Oh, 183 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: they'll they'll come up with something, I'm sure. And Jensaki 184 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: among the most obviously inept members of this Biden White House. 185 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: This is her explanation, the White House Press secretary for 186 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: what caused the rise in crime? Plate too? Is there 187 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: a crime problem in this country? Well, I would say, 188 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: certainly there is a guns problem, and that's something the 189 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: President would say. And there are communities where local violence 190 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: and community violence is an issue, and that's one of 191 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: the reasons that we have proposed and have now are 192 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: implementing funding for community violence prevention programs across the country. 193 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: I will say that we don't often highlight and you 194 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: just gave me the opportunity to the fact that between 195 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: mass shootings, mass shootings that get a lot of attention, 196 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: that we lower the flags. There are hundreds thousands of 197 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: people who lose their lives, and that's one of the 198 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: reasons the President will continue to advocate for the Senate 199 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: passing back universal background checks, but also advocate for actions 200 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: and states where we have seen the greatest level of 201 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: activism over the past of early years is community violence prevention. 202 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: She sounds like a moron. Well, there's a reason for that. 203 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: This is blather. This is the White House Press secretary 204 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: saying that there's a there's not a crime problem, there's 205 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: a gun problem. No, there's a crime problem. A lot 206 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: of the crime Saki don't even involve guns. There is 207 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: a crime problem in this country right now. It is 208 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: all heading in the wrong direction. And the reason for 209 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: that is Democrat pandering. It's Democrat pandering to victimology, identity politics, 210 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: anti cop animus. That's why this is happening. We know 211 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: why it's happening, but they won't say it. No, they'd 212 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: rather live in this fantasy land of if only we 213 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: had more social workers, if only the community violence was 214 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: addressed differently, I got news for SAKI and all the 215 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: rest of the lunatic libs. Violence that occurs in the 216 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: context of crimes, it's not it's not a problem of 217 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: the community. It's a problem for the community, as in 218 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: it is done to people who aren't committing crimes. But 219 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: there's no sympathy expressed here. There's no desire for immediate change, 220 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: and that would mean change in policy to make the 221 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: over ninety nine percent of people who live in even 222 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the most high crime neighborhoods, who aren't engaged in violence 223 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: against the innocent. There's no consideration given for their plight, 224 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: no more important. Let's just paint some George Floyd murals 225 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: in places, put up some BLM hashtags, put up some 226 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: BLM black squares on our instagrams or whatever. Let's do 227 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: some virtue signaling. Let's put let's put Black Lives Matter 228 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: flags at US embassies. I saw that report from what 229 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: was it, the National Pulse. Right, let's tell the whole 230 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: world that BLM is a movement that the United States 231 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: government stands by. It's just propaganda. That's what really is 232 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: going on with the government. They won't address the real 233 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: problem here, which is that their undermining law enforcement because 234 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: there is a narrative that is very apparent on the left. 235 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you see and hear it all the time 236 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: that America is a systemically racist country that our police 237 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: are in fact just the continuation of slave patrols. This 238 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: is what is said that the historical precursor for police today, 239 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: this is written about the New York Times, is slave 240 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: patrols from the anti bellam era. It's a lie, it's 241 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: historically ignorant, but they still say this, what do we 242 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: want dead cops? That was a chant that I heard. 243 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: Pigs in a blanket, fry him like bacon. That was 244 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: a chant that I heard from BLM protesters. And I've 245 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: seen the posters, the placards that they hold up at 246 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: these at these protests, and I'm not even talking about 247 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: the riots. There is no honesty. The lib elites are 248 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: total frauds on this issue. They know, they know that 249 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: making it harder for cops to do their job, making 250 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: sure that people aren't signing up to beat cops. That 251 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: the ferguson effect of law enforcement officers unwilling to get 252 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: involved to intervene because they don't want to risk their 253 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: livelihoods and their freedom perhaps means that innocent, good people 254 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: all across the country, black, brown, white, everybody, innocent people 255 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: all across the country suffer as a result of this lie. 256 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: We saw this all last year. It's appalling that there 257 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: was such an un willingness people were running scared from 258 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: the notion that BLM wasn't actually working out well. That 259 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: defund the police is the dumbest slogan of any political 260 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: movement in modern American history. Okay, I can't think of 261 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: anything as stupid in my lifetime as defund the police. 262 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: But this is said by people who think that they're astute, 263 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: think that they're wise on this issue. Really, what would 264 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: happen if we really defunded police? Oh well, then they 265 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: get into it. We don't really know what defund means 266 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: yet we're still figuring it out. Well, while they're figuring 267 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: it out, kids are catching stray bullets. 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We 310 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: keep getting told by the media when we push back 311 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: on some of this stuff, it's not about hating cops. 312 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: We're not saying that the cops are the problem, but 313 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: that is what they're saying. This is just gaslighting. That's 314 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: what the BLM movement claims. That is at central premise 315 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: that law enforcement is racist, that people have to be 316 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: scared if they are black or brown because of law enforcement. 317 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: This is not rooted in fact, it's not rooted in reason. 318 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: It's an exaggeration of what is what are outlier events 319 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: with the millions and millions of police law police civilian 320 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: interactions that are happening every year, but get rid of 321 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: qualified immunity. This is what we're you know, because because 322 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I actually do want to focus on, Okay, what does 323 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: the BLM movement want? A lot of this is just 324 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: people that are looking for a cause. You know that 325 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: everything you've got, you know, white liberal nineteen year old 326 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: girls driving around in you know, Daddy's range rover who 327 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: are all BLM and you know, marching over there. There 328 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: are a joke. I know people like this. You've got 329 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: thirty year old trust fund kids living in Connecticut who 330 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: were putting BLM on their Instagram page or BLM on 331 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: their Facebook. It's virtue signaling, it's it's cool, it's a 332 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: social We see that. That's obvious, right. This is unfortunately, 333 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: a very effective tactic of the modern left that they 334 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: just create because they control so many the institutions of 335 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: our culture, cheap virtue out there for anyone. All you 336 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: have to do is go along. All you have to 337 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: do is be a mouthpiece for whatever the preferred slogan 338 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: of the moment may be. And you're showing everybody you're 339 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: one of the good people. Cost you nothing, you do nothing. Okay, 340 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: So that's obvious, right, we know that that. You know, 341 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: college students or people in their twenties and thirties, gen 342 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: Z millennials who risk nothing and do nothing and live 343 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: in safe neighborhoods and put out on social media how 344 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: much they care about BLM and George Floyd and in 345 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: memory of George Floyd. We know they're a joke. They 346 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: don't care, They don't deal with the reality. This is 347 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: all about them. This is all self indulgence under the 348 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: cover of altruism. But it's self indulgence. So let's look 349 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: at what the actual policies are. Let's look at what 350 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: people who are involved in the movement are actually saying 351 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: should happen. Here here's Floyd family attorney Chris Stewart on 352 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: qualified Immunity Play twenty three. This is a phenomenal bill. 353 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: Anybody that knows about policing, about civil rights, about how 354 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: these actually work in court, they know that qualified immunity. 355 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Getting rid of that, it's not going to make a 356 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: bunch of lawyers like myself sue more cops. It's not. 357 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous because what really happens is in these cases 358 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: in court, cities toss the officers away so they don't 359 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: have any coverage anyway. So it's not going to make 360 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: lawyers go out and sue more cops. It's semantics. It's 361 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: because some people are just saying, I don't want to 362 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: look like I'm allowing cops to be sued, when in 363 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: reality it's not going to affect it at all of 364 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: getting more officers sued. So getting rid of it will 365 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: change the mentality of policing. It makes officer no, I 366 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: can't go out there and do whatever I want, which 367 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: is all the change that needs to happen. So getting 368 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: rid of it has to happen. It's not going to 369 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: hurt police officers. That's semantics. Oh sure, sure, it's semantics. 370 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: This is not true. What he's saying is, yeah, sure, 371 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: the law would then make it so that you could 372 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: sue a cop personally for doing his job at any 373 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: point in time. But that's not going to result in 374 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of lawyers suing cops unnecessarily unfairly. I mean, 375 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: this is honestly, this this guy is, he's this is 376 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: a joke. This is a joke. Qualify. Why does qualified 377 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: immunity exist if it does not grant qualified immunity to 378 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: the officers. The law is the law. But what he's 379 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: saying is, well, sometimes they'll say that you went outside 380 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: the scope of your employment and that you know you 381 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: because of your misconduct. Yeah, that's because they've decided that 382 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: there are limitations to qualified immunity. But the baseline standard 383 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: is you can't just sue a cop directly for doing 384 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: his job as a person in the course of his duties. 385 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: There's a reason exists. It creates an additional barrier to 386 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: frivolous bs. But notice he says, yeah, it's just going 387 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: to create a difference in perception law enforcement. Oh sure, 388 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: this is the Floyd family attorney, So take you know, 389 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: you know what's going on here. Sure, Now, cops will 390 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: say I'm not going to use successive force and murder 391 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: somebody because I don't have qualified immunity anymore. So, yeah, 392 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: that's really going to change the thought process. This is 393 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: just stupid. I mean, this is a stupid comment from 394 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: a lawyer who's not very good at the law, but 395 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: good at getting people upset, good at the narrative, good 396 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: at making it seem like there's some intellectual merit to 397 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: any any of these defund the police storylines or these 398 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: ideas that we're gonna make everything better by getting rid 399 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: of qualified immunity. It's stunning as this continues to play out, 400 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: that they're so little honest in the press about this. 401 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: But that's where we are as a country, as a society, 402 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: and people suffer as a result. This is not just 403 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: something that's rhetorical. This is not just some intellectual argument. 404 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: There's been a huge surgeon crime in America, and it 405 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: started right when the BLM movement got going, right when 406 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: the winds of political change came through police precincts all 407 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: across the country. As in the Democrats are ascendant, they're 408 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: calling the shots, and they're going to feed you to 409 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: the mob the moment that it is inconvenient for them 410 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: to defend you as a law enforcement officer. That's what happened. 411 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: They say, Oh, it's the pandemic that caused the surgeon violence. 412 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't stand up to a moment's scrutiny. The 413 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: numbers all start to change dramatically right around now a 414 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: year ago. It was the ascendency of the BLM movement 415 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: and then narrative of BLM that led to the change 416 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: policing that led to the huge increase in murders shootings. Remember, 417 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: for every person who's shot, there's a family that's devastated, 418 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: there's a community that's devastated, there's a neighborhood that's terrified. 419 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: Every time that happens, there's a person who loses his 420 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: or her life, and then there's also all the other victims, 421 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: all the other people that have that loss. So when 422 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about thousands of additional homicides compared to what 423 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: would have been a normal year in America, that's tens 424 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people directly affected and 425 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: connected to that incident of violence. So the second order 426 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: effects are much greater, and that we're much broader, and 427 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: that's something that you have to remember. So the other 428 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: part of this, and Heather McDonald actually points this out 429 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: in her excellent Wall Street Journal piece is that no 430 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: other country in the world saw a huge surge in violence, 431 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: no other industrialized nation and saw a huge surgeon violence 432 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: because of the pandemic. In fact, if you just think 433 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: about this for a second, it should be what you 434 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: saw in Canada and the UK and relative to their 435 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: normal crime rates, big drops in crime, far fewer people 436 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: interacting with each other, far fewer people in the streets, 437 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: more people at home, right, And so yeah, there can 438 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: be home invasions, but that's a that's a riskier proposition 439 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: for criminals, especially in countries where anybody may be armed. Right, 440 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: There's there's a whole less less drug dealing disputes going 441 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: on all of that because you have people interacting with 442 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: each other, less people are locked at home. But the numbers, 443 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: the data, the facts that don't that don't matter. In 444 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: all this, there's a storyline. The Democrats stick to it. 445 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: The Democrats are the party of elevating victims. The Democrats 446 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: are the party of helping the oppressed. The fact that 447 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: they are creating more victims by adhering to this false 448 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: narrative doesn't matter. And that's just the cost of Democrats 449 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: doing business. That's just what we see happening. And pretending 450 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: that police retraining or federal government oversight of police stations 451 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: looking for racism in every police department that comes up 452 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: on their radar, that that's going to make anything better 453 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: for anybody is a fantasy. We know it is absurd, 454 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: but people are scared of being called racist, They are 455 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: scared of falling on the wrong side of BLM, and 456 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: so so many, out of either just self advancement or cowardice, 457 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: bend to knee at the altar of Saint George Floyd. Look, 458 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: George Floyd was somebody who suffered from police excessive force, 459 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: and an officer is now going to spend decades of 460 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: his life in prison for that. I also know that 461 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: there's plenty of real legal analysis out there that George Floyd, 462 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: the George Floyd case against Eric choven the incident of 463 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: George Floyd's killing, his murder, is going to be appealed, 464 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: and that we will see what ends up happening. But 465 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: as of right now, we have a police officer convicted 466 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: of murder, and that is the system has spoken. Yet 467 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: look at all the rest of what has happened from BLM, 468 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: what has the movement actually done all right. There was 469 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: a trial, and if you believe that George Floyd was murdered, 470 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: there was justice, at least as much justice as our 471 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: system can give anyone. What then, for all the rest 472 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: of it, Heather macdonaldoll just give you a little more 473 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: from her Wall Street Journal piece here. Of the one 474 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: hundred homicide victims in Minneapolis since May twenty five, twenty twenty, 475 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: only one was killed by a cop. The victim was 476 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: a suspected gun runner who had tried to run over 477 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: officers before shooting at them through his car window, causing 478 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: them to turn fire. There is little evidence that the 479 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: Minneapolis police department systemically violates black civil rights, but Attorney 480 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: General Merrick Garland has opened a civil rights investigation into 481 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis police department. Anyway, if history is any guide, 482 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: the resulting descent descent decree will cause crime to increase 483 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: in the city as officers back off further proactive policing. 484 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: The victims of that additional crime increase will, as always, 485 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: be disproportionately black. At least three quarters of Minneapolis's homicide 486 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: and shooting victims are black, though the city is less 487 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: than a fifth black. Sharpton and Crump have no answers 488 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: to that dilemma, so they ignore it. The reality of 489 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: BLM policing in America and the epidemic of violence that 490 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: we are seeing. Governor Hi, I want to ask you 491 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: about the bill that you're signing here today. Here, a 492 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: loyal supporter former President Donald Trump, Nentrept is now a 493 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: resident in Florida, and he was the platform. Is the 494 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: bill for him? Bills for everyday Floridians. This is what 495 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: we said, and it would allow any Floridians to be 496 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: able to provide what they're doing. So but I think, 497 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that's another issue that has 498 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: been brought to bear when you de platform the President 499 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: United States. But you let I a toll of Homema 500 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: need to talk about killing years. That is Ron Decantis 501 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: just just racking up those wins down in Florida, the 502 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: governor of Florida. He's he's not tired of winning. He's 503 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: not tired of winning. And I think we all need 504 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: to understand that this is a guy who's showing us 505 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: what can be done at the state level. He signed 506 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: a bill prohibiting tech platforms from suspending or banning political 507 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: candidates in the state with possible finds about the two 508 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars per day if the candidate 509 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: is seeking statewide office twenty five thousand dollars per day 510 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: at the candidate is seeking a non statewide office. This, 511 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so important to understand the implications 512 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: of this. We already have all kinds of restrictions on 513 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: the First Amendment that Democrats love. They want restrictions on 514 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: money and politics. They want restrictions on it was. It 515 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: was the position of the Obama administration in Citizens United 516 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court, the Solicitor General for the Obama 517 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: administration wanted the right to be able to ban books 518 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: about political candidates before an election. That was the official 519 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: position of the Democrat Party under Barack Obama's time in office. 520 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: Citizens United. All the dark money in politics, Oh my gosh, 521 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? Absurd? I work in radio. 522 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: They are all kinds of restrictions on radio. You know, 523 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: the FCC, what I can say, who I can talk to, 524 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: equal time. There's all kinds of things there that are 525 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: already regulated. But see, the Democrats want no regulation, no 526 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: touch allowed on the shoulder of big tech. Because Big 527 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: Tech is almost entirely a left wing pack. That's what 528 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: we know, that's what we see happening all the time, 529 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: and they don't want that to change. They don't want 530 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: that to be any different because it is an enormous 531 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: advantage for them, and look what they've been able to do. Meanwhile, 532 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: you've got you know, Joe Scarborough, who's the ratings are 533 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: down on that show. He's just not a very smart 534 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: or a good or ethical person. That's very apparent from 535 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: what he says and does on TV all the time. 536 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: But he also doesn't understand the law or the constitution. 537 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: But this is the kind of crap you'll hear from 538 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: leftists or whatever whatever. Scarborough is a whatever whatever my 539 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: paymasters at MSNBC, whatever, whatever coins they throw at me, 540 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: that's what he'll do. And whatever they tell him to do, 541 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: that's what he'll say. Play nineteen. That's what's so cute 542 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: about this political stunt, this political gesture. First of all, 543 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: it's most likely unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment and 544 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: how a private company chooses to moderate content on their 545 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: platform they've been Secondly, the hypocrisy of people like Run 546 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: De Santis and Josh Hawley saying they're small government conservatives 547 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: who believe in free market and free enterprise and believe 548 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: in the power of companies to run things away they 549 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: want to run, deciding they are going to be used 550 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: the power of the state to tell Facebook or to 551 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: tell Twitter how to run their First Amendment policies. It's 552 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: just that's a bizarre thing for a small an alleged 553 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: small government Republican to do. You know, yeah, we're just 554 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: we're all of a sudden, he's a market absolutist, you know. Yeah, 555 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: the free bar iss to do whatever they want. First 556 00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: Amendment rights. Yeah yeah, sure, Oh okay, he's on a 557 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: cable channel. There's all kinds of regulations out there about 558 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: what you can do, indecency, there are all kinds of 559 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: restrictions on transparency and political advertising. I mean to say, 560 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: just the First Amendment means when when it comes to 561 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter, for obvious reasons, the left takes the 562 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: position they can do whatever they want, they can do 563 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: anything they want, no regularly. Oh okay, So these those 564 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: are the companies that have no regulation all of a sudden, 565 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: according to Left, which Joe Scarborough is a part of. 566 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just a paid hack will do whatever 567 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: they want him to do. And this is so interesting. 568 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: It's like I always tell you, it's just about power. 569 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: There's no principle behind any of this. They'll say, what 570 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: do they have to say to get what they want. 571 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: That's the attitude of the left, that's the attitude of 572 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: social justice warriors, that's the attitude of the commies that 573 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: are increasingly obviously ascendant in American public and private life. 574 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: We have people that want totalitarian left wing control of 575 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: the government. They think that would be a better thing. 576 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we're there and that's what the 577 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: country is in, but that's what they desire, and whatever 578 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: they have to say to push in that direction they 579 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: will say. And people like Joe Scarborough will say it too, 580 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: because you know they're paying him. We don't have enough 581 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: data on information to jump to a conclusion at this 582 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: point in time. We have repeatedly called for the WHO 583 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: to support an expert driven evaluation of the pandemic's origins 584 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: that is free from interference or politicization, and now we're 585 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: hopeful that WHO can move into a more transparent, independent 586 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: phase to investigation. I would say, in terms of the 587 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: report which was specifically about individuals being hospitalized. We have 588 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: no means of confirming that or denying that. I mean, 589 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: it's not a report from the United States. Thank the 590 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: journalis side of a US intelligence report, so that would 591 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: have been a US repeat. Well, I don't have any 592 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't have anything more on a US intelligence report. Now, 593 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and it's not clear. Now, of 594 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's not obvious that the Wuhan coronavirus came from, oh, 595 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, a cave somewhere. Now, all of a sudden, 596 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: it may it may in fact be the case that 597 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: those who were saying all along that this could have 598 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: been the result of an error in a lab that 599 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: was studying it. That's not crazy, gosh. I know this 600 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: is not surprising to you and me. But it is interesting, 601 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: isn't it. How much changes and how much they the 602 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: consensus fauci I had left, how much they've gotten wrong 603 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: over and over again. Here's the former Secretary of State 604 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: Mike Pompeo on this play twenty Someone somebody will have 605 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: worked in that laboratory and will decide they can stick 606 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: out of China. I'll come tell the truth. I'm convinced 607 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: but sadly, I don't think that will happen in a 608 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: timely fashion. And so what's the world do? How can 609 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: we hold China accountable? There are many for them, and 610 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: that we could do this, And why on earth would 611 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: you join the World Health Organization, which were rewards of 612 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: the Chinese for the exact partner that they joined in 613 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: the cover up with right, it was doctor Tedros and 614 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: Chi Chingping that colluded to keep this information out of 615 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: the hands of the world. And so there are many 616 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: things the United States government could do to impose real 617 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: cost on the Chinese Communist Party until they come clean 618 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: about what they know and what they did. We know 619 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: for sure they covered up this virus. I am confident 620 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: that we will find that the evidence that we have 621 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: seen to data is consistent with a lab leak, and 622 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm convinced that's what we'll see. If I'm wrong, I 623 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: hope the Chinese Communist Party will come forward and make 624 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: a full oil. If they're going to hold back data, 625 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: they're never going to give us full transparency. We all 626 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: know that China won't even allow its own people basic freedoms. 627 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: You think that they're really going to respond to a 628 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: good faith of a good faith ask for data and 629 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: information from the World Health Organization or the US for 630 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: that matter. Now, I think that Mike Pompeo, I will 631 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: tell you, is overstating the leverage that the US has 632 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: to get answers here. The reality is that there is 633 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: nothing that we are going to do. There's nothing we 634 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: can do to force China to tell us things that 635 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: would lead us to believe that they were that the 636 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, that the regime was reckless in the 637 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: original or in the outbreak of COVID nineteen and covered 638 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: it up that effectively their negligence caused a global pandemic 639 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: that has killed millions of people and cost trillions of dollars. 640 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: They're never going to admit that. They're never going to 641 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: give us the data to prove that or see that. 642 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: They will always, always, always tell us that this was 643 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: from bats or we don't know, or you know, whatever 644 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: it was. That's the way this will go. So I 645 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: think that we need to understand that, yes, it is 646 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: worth pressuring China on this, but you know, there's only 647 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: so much you can do for a situation like this, 648 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: where China used this as not existential for its future, 649 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: but certainly a high enough priority to cover this up 650 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: that nobody is going to get them to do anything 651 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: on this that they don't want to do. That's I 652 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: think that much of it is obvious at this point. 653 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: But I remember when this was for conspiracy theorists and 654 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: all the different news stories and all the people who 655 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: were so quick to either fake certainty or to just 656 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: why about this? You know, it's been pretty good. And 657 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say Governor rom DeSantis once again desantists he's 658 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: not tired of winning Play twenty two. Now we have 659 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: information that this very well may have emanated from the 660 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: wu Han Lab. That it was it was a leak 661 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: from the lab. But you remember when people last year 662 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: were raising that as something that needed to be investigated. 663 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: They were de platformed for talking about the lab league, 664 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 1: they were censored for having said that. And now even 665 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: Fauci admits that this may be something that very well 666 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: is the case. Are they going to now censor Fauci 667 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: and pull him down off social media? That's one of 668 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: the things that I will not forgive or forget that 669 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: big tech shut down people for wrong think. But they 670 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: said it was for you know, factual and accuracies. They 671 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: brought these little, these little idiot sensor stormtroopers. Oh, the 672 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: fact checkers from places like PolitiFact an embarrassment of an 673 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: organization and PolitiFact Media matters. These are places where only 674 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: the the lamest, slimiest human beings would ever want to 675 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: spend time or draw paycheck. But that's that's what end 676 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: up happening. They outsourced their sense ship to these so 677 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: called fact checkers, and that was it. Right if you 678 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: were on the wrong side of them, Sorry, the fact 679 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: checkers have spoken. That's the way it went. And now 680 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: they're wrong. We see they're wrong on a lot of things. 681 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: They weren't actually facts. They were just opinions with the 682 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: veneer of scientific consensus, and that was all that was 683 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: necessary to push the whole thing through and to shut 684 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: you down, to shut me down. I still have it. 685 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: I still have PolitiFact writing an article, Oh outdoor, I said, 686 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: outdoor masking is stupid. Yeah, it is stupid. I was right. 687 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: You know, it looks like the CDC. I saw some 688 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: rumor reporting the CDC may change its outdoor mask guidance 689 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: for kids at summer camps because it is so stupid 690 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: and so unscientific and so idiotic. On every level that 691 00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: the CDC is embarrassed enough to reconsider its position on that. 692 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: But going back to the COVID origins fight, because you 693 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: know that's getting a lot of attention this week, and 694 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: we talked about it in detail yesterday in the show. 695 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: What is the preferred the preferred rationale now for why 696 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: they all turned on the lab league theory and believed 697 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: the came from a cave theory or the wet market, right, 698 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: came from the wet market. If that were the case, 699 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: why weren't all the cases that they initially established having 700 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: some connection to that wet market. They didn't. Some of 701 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: them had no connection. That doesn't make sense. But Maggie Haberman, 702 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: Democrat at the Democrat New York Times, wants you to 703 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: know that it's really Trump's fault play eleven. I do 704 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: think it's important to remember that part of the issue 705 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: when this was first being reported on and discussed back 706 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: a few months after the pandemic had begun, was that 707 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: then President Trump and Mike Pompey, the Secretary of State, 708 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: both suggested they had seen evidence that this was formed 709 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: in a lab and they also suggested it was not 710 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: released on purpose, but they refused to release the evidence 711 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: showing what it was, and so because of that that 712 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: made this instantly political. I think that was you example 713 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: one thousand, when the Trump administration learned that when you 714 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 1: have burned your own credibility over and over again, people 715 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: are not immediately going to believe you, especially in an 716 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: election year. However, that does not mean it's not worth discussing. 717 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: There has been a sort of persistent, albeit relatively quiet 718 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 1: focus on whether that was the origin of the virus, 719 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: and it is compounded by the fact that there have 720 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: not been clear answers from Chinese officials about it, and 721 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: that investigators trying to find out the origin have been stymied. 722 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: So I do think we're in a different period of this, John, 723 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: But I also think it's important to remember because I 724 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: think it's getting reframed in a way that's just not 725 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: true to what happened. I don't mean here, I mean 726 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: in this broader debate by Trump supporters about what happened 727 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: when this was originally raised. Okay, let's let's unpack this 728 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: for a second. Maggie Harman in in convincing and pretty 729 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: you know, pretty fluid fashion here is really just making 730 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: the case for yeah, we got it wrong. The media 731 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: got this wrong by and large, but we had to 732 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: get it wrong because Trump's such a liar that the 733 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: fact that Trump said that it came from a lab 734 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: justified us going against him, which was the media's attitude 735 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: about everything. If Trump said it, it must be wrong. 736 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: But they believe it. That's actually a sound rationale. They 737 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: believe that's actually a reasonable justification for being wrong. If 738 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: Trump said it, it has to be incorrect. Doesn't that 739 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: tell you a lot about where they really were on this? 740 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't that tell you a lot about what the media? Well, 741 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: you already know this. I mean the media was psychotically 742 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: opposed to Donald Trump. But even on something where there 743 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: were other voices all along, there were experts who were saying, now, 744 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: this actually looked like it probably came from a lab. 745 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: They insisted on opposing that theory and discrediting And I'm 746 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,919 Speaker 1: not just saying we don't think this is right, it's 747 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. You're a kup, you're a nut. Don't 748 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: believe it. They insisted on that because it was politically expedient. 749 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: This is just another data point to show you why 750 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: you cannot trust the corporate media. You cannot trust them. 751 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: They are not about honesty and truth and transparency. They 752 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: are propagandists. They are pushing a narrative, and they are 753 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: seeking power for their side. The most important thing this 754 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: is if you read between the lines what you are 755 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: being told here, even by a celebrated New York Times journal, 756 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: The most important thing here was opposing what Donald Trump 757 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: said at the time, not getting it right because in 758 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: an election year, having Trump look like one he's correct, 759 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: but also pointing to China as the origin of this, 760 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: a country that Donald Trump was much more willing to 761 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: confront and deal with in a forceful way than his 762 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: predecessors of either party. That wasn't a narrative they wanted 763 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: to tell. It was Trump's a buffoon. He's an idiot. 764 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: He can't even he's making up things. Oh, he's making 765 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: up things about the origins of the virus, like he 766 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: makes up the injecting bleach into his veins. You are 767 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: these other stupid things you hear from the journals all 768 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: the time. And so they got this wrong. But they're 769 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: not remorseful about getting it wrong. They just wished they 770 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: hadn't gotten so blatantly caught because what was important to 771 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: get this right, to understand the truth of this virus 772 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: early on, because you can't stop the next pandemic, really 773 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: if you don't know how this one started. Right, that 774 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: didn't matter as much. Bash Trump, that was always on everything. 775 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: That was mission number one for the journos. Don't ever 776 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 1: forget it.