WEBVTT - Wild about Kitty Wilde with Becca Tobin 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.359 And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.280 And Kevin an iHeartRadio. 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:11.160 Podcast Welcome to You, and that's what you really miss 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.240 podcast Whoa Whoa, Whoa Whoa Woe. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.280 Kitty Wilde is in the house. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.840 We have the podcast Queen Herself Beca Tobin. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:23.280 Without Becca, we wouldn't be here right now. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.439 No, Beca is the reason why we started podcasting in 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.680 the first place, the reason why we started podcasting about 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.040 Glee in the first place. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:32.599 She's so here we are a. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.040 Brilliant, talented human being. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.080 Mogul. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.120 Uh yeah, just a little mini mogul. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.000 It's so funny to hear her talk about Glee though, 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:45.519 in the way that she does, because sometimes she's like 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.280 so averse to things, and then like all of a sudden, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.519 she's like, this is the most joyful thing I've everd on, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.760 and it's so it's it's just surprising to me. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.920 Sometimes she's a big old softy deep down in that. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:57.960 She really is. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.880 She's it's like that hard funge outside that you crack 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.080 and there's like gooey ice cream inside. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.320 She is just good people, and I think you have 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.960 to like earn to get into her inner circle. And 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.240 it is so worth it, but once you're in forget it. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.800 She is loyal to a fault. I mean, if you 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:18.080 haven't listened to her podcast with Kelsey and Jack called 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.280 The Lady Gang, go Do you live under a Rock? Yeah? 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.480 I mean it's been like nine years and now literally 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.640 this is back in tel Then enjoy. Hello. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.319 I just want to tell you it's wow having to 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:32.320 watch Glee again. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.360 Which one? Did you watch? The new Rachel You were 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.320 so good though, I know I also love it because 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:40.760 thank you. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.760 I don't want to tell your story, but I have 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.880 since found out that like you didn't even know what 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.240 like how to like hit your mark, no, any of that. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.480 Pushing that stroller was like the scariest thing of my 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.040 life because Joaquin just walked over to me and was like, hey, 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.040 this is your mark. And I was like, okay, I'm 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.880 using context, clue, I'm assuming my mark means I stand 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:02.160 on it. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.680 I don't know. It was a fucking namer. I'll talk 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:06.160 about it. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:12.280 We okay, Well we learned that together. Like, I didn't 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.040 know what that was. 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:13.959 Did you know what that was? 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:14.320 Kevin? 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.320 You had done some stuff that was okay, I didn't 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.400 really know what that was. He had done the office. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:26.399 Jenna's right, episode so famous, already was a pizza boy. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.040 But I we were, we were already like locked and 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.680 loaded by the time you started. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.800 Oh yeah, you were three seasons and you were like 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.440 such old hat, Like it was such old hat? Is 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.600 that the term? I don't even Yeah, I. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.480 Think you're gonna cause old hags, and you wouldn't you 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.760 were old hags, But I was the oldest hag. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.200 To be clear, you are the oldest you are. You 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:47.200 will always be the old. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:52.760 Wait, I think aside obviously, aside from Corey the girl of. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.520 The Marks of the Girls, you're the oldest. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.120 Yes, but like by a couple of months. Jenna stopped giggling. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.400 He bitch every time she says it. Jenna's just a 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:03.280 few months younger. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:03.919 Leah too. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:09.120 Lea's like no August, yeah, Lea's like less February in 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.920 August is a big jump. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.680 January, okay, January and. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.560 Okay, even worse. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:21.160 Diana too. Diana. Isn't Diana your age? Jenna? Yes, April, yeah, okay, 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.760 all rights, smug, look off your face. I actually think 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.760 that Amber is also February. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.880 February, so you are okay, all right, fair enough, still 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.080 still stand young. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.120 Thank God. Okay, tell him, tell us how you. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.920 Got What were you doing in your life? What was 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.560 happening on in your life when you got the call 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.080 to audition Berkeley. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.920 I was in the middle of my two hundred hours 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.720 yoga certification at Yoga to the People, which I think 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.040 since has been totally canceled in, like you know, there's 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.640 now going back now. No turns out it was not 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.480 a great It was not Yoga to the people. It 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.800 was like yoga yoga for fraud or something. There was 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.360 something sketchy happening there. But I was, yeah, something I 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.960 was in my course because I had just done Rock 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.640 of Ages on Broadway for a couple of years. I 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.120 did the Trans Siberian Orchestra, which I know Kevin is 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.000 a huge Mungus fan of my work. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:33.279 In the did the dance last It's Christmas Stripper. I 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.440 don't even know, like what you would call that show 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.680 back then with the flute, you really know it. I 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:41.720 know it better than I do. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.640 It's so satisfying because it is like if you could 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:49.200 sum up what is the gayest possible move, that's it. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.559 I've done gayer things, but I don't feel I feel 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.240 most gay when doing that dance. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.360 Same, so I was doing that. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.960 I did like a big Christmas tour where we toreed arenas, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.599 and then I was like, you know, fuck this business. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.039 It's really it's such a grind, and I just don't 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.200 know how long I can do like the hair flip 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:15.839 and the body rolls and all that. So I was 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.760 really trying to be responsible and like preparing myself for 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.840 what my future held. There's a slightly more longevity in 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.360 yoga teaching. I'm not sure by how much, but a 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.679 little bit, and you still didn't need a college degree, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:29.560 which I didn't have. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.040 So I was. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.760 Doing that and then I got this call from my 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.239 agent at the time, which was this like really small 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.120 dance agency in New York. She was like, hey, Glee 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.600 is casting for the next season and they're looking for 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:49.040 a couple new characters and they want to cast out 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.000 in New York and they wanted to be like actual, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:55.520 true musical theater people. And so I remember being like 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.480 huck Lee because to all the musical theater people when 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.560 that show came came out, we were all like posers, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.400 You're not a purist, you know. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.719 Wait, yes, hold on, what was the talk because I 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:09.440 know none of that. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:11.480 We hate watched it. 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.760 We watched it, but only because you were jealous. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.360 Of course. You know. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.360 It's like young, there's no caddier world than Broadway Theater 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.559 and Jenna, you know this well, like, yes, it's kind 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.000 of crazy, how truly we just couldn't celebrate anyone's wins 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.280 because we were all. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.840 Just so desperate, just fucking desperate. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.039 But even like you had people who have been on 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.440 Broadway on the show. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:41.080 They were traders, you know, Jenna and Leah and Matt, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.040 Matt and Matt. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.880 Oh yeah, yeah it sold out to TV. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.440 Yeah, I was like, oh god, and you know, so 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.920 everybody but you know, of course I everyone would drop 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.039 everything to be on the show if asked, because that's 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.880 how the world works, and that's how envy works, and 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.279 that's how you know, we all are. So I get 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.280 this call and I thought it it was for like 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.480 a holiday weekend where I was supposed to be going 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.120 on like some trip with my friends, and I was 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.440 just so inconvenience that I had to move my train 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.320 to day later to audition for Glee because I was like, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.480 at this point, I had auditioned for so many things 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.600 during the theater days that I knew a I had 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.920 never auditioned for anything on television, and I was like, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.320 no one's casting me in a TV show. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:25.680 This just isn't. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:29.960 First TV audition ever ever, you bitch. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.640 Yeah, And I don't worry. The horseshoe quickly fell out 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:42.360 of my ass. But I went to the audition, and 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.040 I think because I just didn't. I just thought it 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.720 was so far from reality, and you know, it was 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:50.640 the character. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.400 I really liked it. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.200 I had obviously I'm wonderful playing a bitch and life 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.080 was imitating art a little bit more than you know, 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.640 I wanted to admit. I just felt like it's fun 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.800 and I'll do it. And then I had to do 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.080 it was so weird. You had to do like sixteen 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.160 bars of a song, like a pop song, and I 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.440 sang I kissed a girl, not even knowing the show 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.480 that had been on the show, because I didn't watch the. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.000 Show after the first episode because I was just so 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.280 pissed that it existed. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.840 And I sang it, I kissed a girl, and then 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.120 I danced and you had to like do your own 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:23.320 choreography or something. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.360 It was like a no, yes, and. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:30.040 My dance audition made it onto some like DBD like 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.479 I swear I swear in the world, which is upsetting. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.640 Upset they they learned after casting all of us for 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.360 three years. They were like, we have to make sure 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.400 these kids. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.920 Yeah, So I did it and then I got a 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.080 call back and I still at that point felt like 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.920 this is so stupid. I'm not getting this job. And 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.800 then they were like, Okay, you're going to test for 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.800 the show. And I was like, well, didn't I just 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.000 go through a test? That are those tests? Is that 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.760 not a test? And they said a. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.720 Screen test where you have to fly to LA. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.520 They're going to fly you there then to put you 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:01.960 up and you're just going to do it in front 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:02.920 of all the executives. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.560 But we're going to do your deal. 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.000 And so they did our deal and everything was so foreign. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.120 It was like being in another country where I didn't 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.400 speak the language. And I just was moving forward and 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.040 tell doing what everybody told me to do. So I 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.360 went to my audition and I saw a girl there 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.040 that had been I knew her from New York. She 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.319 had been Her name was Natalie, but I can't remember 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.840 her last name. She had been on a soap opera. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.400 She went from like musical theater to soap opera world, 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:31.199 and I thought. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.120 Oh shit, she's going to get this because she just 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.920 was like already cool, already hot. Shit. So I did 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:38.520 my audition. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.880 I did not know who Ryan Murphy was when he 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.319 was in the room, and he asked me. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.280 So like, do you really dance? 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:49.480 And I said, yeah, I dandy, have you seen these moves? 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.760 And then I left, and I swear on my mother's life. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.360 I my agent called and said how to go, and 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:56.920 I said, I think it went really well. And the 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:05.800 choreographer asked me if I had really danced, and I 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.640 was like, he seemed really excited. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:08.480 I mean hopefully. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.679 I mean he's just the choreographers who knows like how 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.280 much input he. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:17.760 It was Ryan Murphy. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.200 And this is why things were easier before the Internet existed, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.640 or before it was truly accessible, or before I entered 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.640 into the world of television. I could not put a 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.360 face to a name I didn't and truthfully, if someone 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.040 had said to me that was Ryan Murphy, I don't 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.679 even know if I would have known how truly important 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.040 that man was to this show. Like I just was 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.760 so green, like green is an understatement. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.160 It was just yeah. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.480 So I fly home and I knew that if I 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.439 got the job that I would have like a week 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.000 to break my lease in New York and move to 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:55.640 LA which I'd never lived in LA before. And I 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.920 got the call and I was just shocked. My agent 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.839 was like, it was the best day of her life. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:06.200 I mean, she's. 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:08.800 Salary a couple. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.000 She was like, this is crazy. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.360 You're going to be on a TV show and kind 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.320 of like a big character on a TV show. So 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.400 I packed up all my shit and I left and 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.080 went to LA and then, like we were saying, I 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.040 got to a set and I had no idea what 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.320 I was doing again, and I was. It was the 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.720 most intimidating experience of my life. And actually watching the 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.520 episode today, I hadn't watched Glee. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:38.840 I don't ten years. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.800 It's probably been ten years, and that episode I probably 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.079 haven't watched since. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:44.800 It came out. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.800 That year was twenty twelve, I think was season four 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.280 or at least when we filmed it. But watching it back, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:56.679 I actually have to say that I can't believe how 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.000 I was able to keep my shit together because I 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:04.040 wasn't horrible and I looked like but I'd done it before, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.839 kind of I forgot some of the lines I said 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:13.480 were so incredibly inappropriate, and this is zero recollection of that. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.920 But I yeah, it was so scary, it was so terrifying. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.080 Was your first scene with Jane? Uh huh? 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:21.400 Yep? 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:22.760 For television? 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:23.240 God? 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.199 No, Yeah, And. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.880 I'll never forget. I'll never forget. I was such a 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.240 massive Jane fan. I mean, all the Christopher guest movies 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.120 I was. I could quote them. So I just thought, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.439 this is so amazing. But I'm also the type of 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.720 person where I would rather not have those opportunities, do 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:46.400 you know what I mean. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.320 I think we're all kind of the same in that way. Yeah, 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.360 I'm like, I don't want to rise to the occasion. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.120 I don't want the occasion, Like, let me observe, don't 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:55.480 try me. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.200 So I just remember sitting there and they brought out 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.320 the cast chairs, so you know, between scenes, between setups 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.680 all that stuff, everybody goes and they sits in their chair, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.920 and there was a chair with Jane's name on it, 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.480 and there was a chair I think it was just Jane. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.200 Oh no, Chris was. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.760 In that scene too, And then they brought out another 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.760 chair and I just stood there for like thirty minutes, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.800 and Jane was like, hey, you can sit down, like 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.120 you can totally and I'm like, no, no, no, I'm totally fine. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.319 And I didn't realize the chair they brought out was 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.040 for me, like it said cast I didn't have like 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.200 my Becca Tobin chair yet, but I didn't sit until 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.280 like six hours in and I. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.880 Thought, okay, well, I guess this is why they have chairs. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.440 Like it's a long damn day. She just stood next 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:41.120 to the chair. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.559 I stood next to the chair like the most awkward 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.480 person you've ever seen in your life. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:46.640 But I will never forget. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.480 Jane was sitting there on her phone and they were like, okay, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:55.240 ready for ready for what do they say, Jesus Christ, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.880 We're ready for first Team and Jane goes, hang. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.760 On, I'm more in a ring a tankini. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.560 And I was just like this is so epic, Like 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.520 I wish I wasn't here because now I have to 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.760 go on set and like do a scene with her, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.720 and I don't want those stakes to be that high. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.400 But I also I am so grateful that I'm sitting 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.080 here just watching Jane Lynch order at. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.320 Tentertaining watching Jane Lynch just be is such a gift. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.280 It was so amazing, and I just and I didn't 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.360 know what I was doing at all. But it's so 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.000 weird because you know, by the time you're on a 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.920 TV show, one would hope that you've had some kind 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.680 of a lesson in acting in front of a camera. No, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.560 but there wasn't, and no one thought to look at 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.600 my resume and say, hmm, this is strange. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.960 She's only ever performed on the stage with. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.040 Live audiences and never in front of a camera unless 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:52.360 it was some like weird. I think I did, like 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.680 some dance commercials, you know, where I was like a 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.560 background dancer or something. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.520 But that was it. It was so scary. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:00.680 Wow. 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:14.880 Did you ever have aspirations of being like on camera 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.480 or was it just like you went to Amada right? Yeah, 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.480 so like you were always just like a theater girl. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:21.960 Just theater straight up. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.200 I just wanted to be in the chorus of every 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.480 musical and maybe understudy the lead role if it didn't 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.760 sing too high. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.280 Aspirations were high really for the start. 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.200 I never wanted, guys. I never wanted to be a star. Okay, 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.520 I know it's hard to believe, but I never. 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.640 Thought I want to sometimes if you got it, you 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.800 got it. You can't help it. 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.000 Yeah, you got it. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.040 A guess what the choreographer that day aka Ryan Murphy, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:49.680 he saw. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:50.920 Something, he saw something in me. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.160 Yeah. No, I never wanted to walk a red carpet. 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.120 I didn't want to do interviews. I'm not complaining. It 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.720 was I mean, I still hate walking red carpet. It's 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.080 like the worst thing ever of this whole job. But 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.400 like you know, it just was weird. It was so 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:06.800 it was the whole thing was so weird. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.880 This makes so much sense now, is why we got 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.160 along and get along. Yeah, it's because I think we 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.320 have a collective rejection of like this shit is stupid. Yeah, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:17.800 this is all so silly. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:18.720 Don't need it. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.960 I'm we're we like can't we couldn't buy in, And 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.200 you have to buy in. You have to buy in 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.680 at a certain point, you know, drink the kool aid. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.600 Drink your own kool aid. I don't think the three 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.160 of us have ever had a sip of our own 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:32.720 kool aid. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.200 Well, I mean maybe maybe a little. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:36.840 I mean I probably did at some point. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:41.120 We had like maybe half a cut yea possibly, yes, yes, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.280 never once on this show though, No, no, no, no, no, no, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.960 it was we never took ourselves seriously on the show. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.360 That's why it's hard to rewatch because I was like, Oh, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:50.840 she wasn't there that day. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:51.760 I'm talking about me. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.760 I wasn't you committed on this new Rachel episode. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.720 I was here. I was there for it. That's why 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:57.080 I said. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.080 You know, a lot of the fans have told this, 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.320 like season three was one of the best seasons. We 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.480 loved season three, but I was still very intimidated and 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.440 there was very much this kind of like rank and 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:12.160 so when I was technically like the upper classmen, when 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.440 you guys came in, it was like we were the 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.879 leaders and we were kind of the one setting the 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.760 tone and it was so fun and you guys came 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.080 in and like fit in right away, and we had 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.439 like we just had so much fun that it was. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.719 It was a different dynamic, not that the original like 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.160 the first three weren't that, but it was just different. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.560 Yeah, but we were still very much learning on the job, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.719 Like you said that, Yeah, when you came on, and 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.719 I think now having like people to like shepherd in 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.880 and show the ropes, it made us feel more secure 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.920 and like oh, we know what we're doing. Yeah, oh, 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.119 we got this. And I was just saying to Jenna 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.320 about the new racial episode where there's something in like 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:56.880 her performance that feels more mature or grown and more confident, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.640 like she has a presence that she did not have 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.520 the first three seasons. Yeah, and I think maybe part 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.320 of that is that there's new kids here and to 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:06.920 sort of be the leaders of this. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.440 Yeah, yeah, it's true. Yeah, Tina was very confident in 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.240 the new Rachel. I loved it. She's pretty different. She's 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:16.119 doing something. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.200 She has she's lived a little bit. Now, what what 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.639 was your contract? Like, uh, this is wild. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:29.440 So it was a guaranteed six episode guest star. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.960 So it was a recurring guest star. Wow. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.240 So it was like our trial. They wanted to make 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.800 sure that they didn't cast the wrong people. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.399 Right, Yeah, they did. They caught it later. 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.560 They caught it too late though, and they gave us 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:50.359 that And I remember my agent explaining to me that 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.919 if you know, like it could go on, because you know, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:58.440 you do the test deal, so like they say, potentially 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.600 you could be doing seven season this. So we're going 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.400 to set it up so that you that's what we're 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.400 prepared for so it was like this weird. We knew 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:10.160 we were auditioning for more, and I just thought, why 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.400