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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: So much to happen here, to get through Monday and

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Speaker 2: into a new Trump administration. She has provided leadership at

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Speaker 2: CBS in driving forward conversation. Margaret Brennan joins us now,

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Speaker 2: of course with Face the Nation seat on the CBS

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Speaker 2: television network Sunday morning and of course on Bloomberg Radio

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon. Margaret, I'm going to cut to the chase

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Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats thunderstruck by the caliber of the talent,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, with Secretary Treasury, I guess doing

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Speaker 2: a good job yesterday. Enter stage right, Michael Waltz of

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Speaker 2: the Virginia Military Institute. Who is Michael Waltz and why

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Speaker 2: are you going to speak to him? Sunday?

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Speaker 3: The Republican congressman from Florida, former Green Beret, is the

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Speaker 3: incoming National security advisor to Donald Trump. We want to

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Speaker 3: talk to him about the job he is about to

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Speaker 3: take on, because he will be the man in the

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Speaker 3: Oval Office providing that advice and really in many ways

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Speaker 3: curating what gets to his desk from the cabinet cabinet officials.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk to Walls about this really complex environment.

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Speaker 3: Most immediately you have the question of who's going to

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Speaker 3: implement and oversee this incredibly complex ceasefire and hostage deal

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Speaker 3: that could see some hostages coming out as soon as

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Speaker 3: Sunday into Monday, Which official diplomats with deep regional knowledge

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Speaker 3: will take over from Bradan Burk and the CIA director.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk to him about China. Why did

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Speaker 3: President Trump invite Shijinping, who just is now sending his

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Speaker 3: vice president to the inauguration, an inauguration at which the

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Speaker 3: CEO of TikTok will be an honored guest, at the

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Speaker 3: same time that TikTok is deemed a national security threat

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Speaker 3: and the Supreme Court's trying to decide whether or not

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Speaker 3: it goes dark. And immediately, I mean, there's just such

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Speaker 3: a list of things. It is such an important moment.

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Speaker 2: Margaret within the CBS reporting, how will the first weeks

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Speaker 2: forget about the one hundred day shtick? How will the

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Speaker 2: first four weeks of Trump to differ from Mattis, Kelly

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Speaker 2: McMaster and others in the first term. To me, there's

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Speaker 2: a radical set of different people, with Mike Waltz being

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Speaker 2: one of the few common features of what we saw

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Speaker 2: eight years ago.

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Speaker 3: It will be different, and we are already getting a

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Speaker 3: sense of that, in part because we don't have people

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Speaker 3: who are completely without clue as to how government works. Right,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is bringing with him stack Ye wait wait.

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Speaker 2: Margaret, stop, Damien, do you see how diplomatic Miss Brennan

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Speaker 2: is compared to Margaret? Please continue.

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Speaker 3: No, But so that's where the sort of learning the process.

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Speaker 3: Some of his advisors who don't require Senate information may

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Speaker 3: be able to offset some of those who do. We

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Speaker 3: know Mattis had such experience both on the battlefield in

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Speaker 3: terms of dust on his boots. Pete Hegseith, I think

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Speaker 3: tried to get people to forget that that Maddis was

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Speaker 3: actually a general and the first Secretary of Defense in

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Speaker 3: the in the Trump administration, when he claimed he'd be

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Speaker 3: a new set of set of blood with you know,

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Speaker 3: a completely different perspective. We will see a bunch of

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Speaker 3: cabinet officials who might not have ever been up for

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Speaker 3: a job like this had Donald Trump not president of

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Speaker 3: the United States.

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Speaker 2: Damiens jump in here and say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Margaret, you mentioned Mike Waltz, and I remember Mike

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Speaker 1: Waltz because he boycotted the twenty two Beijing Olympics, the

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Speaker 1: Winter Olympics. Right, So another notorious China hawk, and there's

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Speaker 1: so many of them in this administration. And you know

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Speaker 1: now we're hearing all this news about ten cents been

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Speaker 1: added to the list of China military firms expert controls

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Speaker 1: on rarers. China's preventing Applin and BYD from shipping production

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Speaker 1: across Asia this morning. So talk to us about this

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Speaker 1: cold war that's sort of lingering in the background here

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Speaker 1: in the minds of America and China. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do we get through this? What comes next?

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Speaker 3: It's the big question. I mean, you have Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 3: who could be the next Secretary of State, who's actually

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Speaker 3: like sanctioned in China. Does that mean he could ever

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Speaker 3: trouble there? You have, yes, China hawks, But this is

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Speaker 3: not a very hawkish first approach on day one to

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Speaker 3: be asking Shijin paying to send his best representative to

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Speaker 3: Washington and to be embracing TikTok the way Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: now is and reversing his past position. Perhaps that has

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Speaker 3: to do with the one hundred and seventy million users

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Speaker 3: who want to stream the Trump inauguration on social media.

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Speaker 3: But we will see how this actually translates into policy.

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Speaker 3: Is this the charm offensive by Beijing to try to

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Speaker 3: convince Trump not to go ahead with the tariffs that

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Speaker 3: he promised on the campaign trail? What is does this

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Speaker 3: actually mean? That's one of the things we want to

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Speaker 3: ask Mike Waltz, is makes sense of all these discordant

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Speaker 3: things for us? What's the strategy? What's the approach?

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fascinating in your line up here. You've

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Speaker 2: got somebody stuck in the middle, which is a Senator

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Speaker 2: from Carolinas, Lindsey Graham. I'm fascinated, Margaret, how you initiate

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Speaker 2: a conversation with a gentleman torn between a Trump GOP

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Speaker 2: and a mainstream GOP. How are you going to do that?

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Speaker 3: And Lindsay Graham has gone between them time and time again.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, at this moment in time

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Speaker 3: where he is in relation to the Trump orbit, We'll

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Speaker 3: ask him that we'll talk to him because he is,

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Speaker 3: for example, a staunch supporter of Ukraine, something that Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump is not, and we want to talk to him about. Okay,

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Speaker 3: by the way, what do we actually learn from that

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Speaker 3: hearing with Pete Heike Sith We didn't actually get a

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Speaker 3: lot on policy or vision for the Pentagon, or innovation

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Speaker 3: or changes. There was more about who he is as

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Speaker 3: a person. Yeah, and character is important, no doubt. Tim Kine,

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Speaker 3: one of my other guests, will be on with us,

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Speaker 3: and he was a Democrat with some of the sharpest

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Speaker 3: questions on that front of you know, why wouldn't oath

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Speaker 3: to the Constitution be different than breaking an oath to

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Speaker 3: your first and second wives. That was pretty sharp. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk to him about that.

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary, an amazing four or five days for Facination, Chris

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Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan, host of CBS Facination. Hear it on the

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Speaker 2: CBS Television network Sunday morning, and you can hear it

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Speaker 2: England and Boston. We thank Margaret Brennan for that time

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Speaker 2: here on a Friday morning