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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to a special edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: It's our first.

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Speaker 2: Mini camp wrap up show. I'm Fred Evans here do

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Speaker 2: so we'll be bye later. Paul's out golfing, but we'll

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Speaker 2: be here for about the next hour or so talk

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Speaker 2: about what we saw. And uh, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: throw it to Drake when he starts talking.

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Speaker 1: Drake, may, are we gonna do that?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Matt. No, we're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you'll catch that later on Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 1: But I would say high energy. Would you agree?

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Speaker 6: It's a fun practice. Yeah, it's a fun practice for

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Speaker 6: this time of year. And I was saying to you earlier,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what it all means. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if it means anything about, you know, how many games

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Speaker 6: they're gonna win or anything like that. But fun and

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Speaker 6: competitive are the two words I would use. There's an

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Speaker 6: energy of offense makes a play, defense makes a play,

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Speaker 6: and iron sharpening iron and all that good stuff that

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Speaker 6: I don't know if we had that in the last

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Speaker 6: couple of years. It's like more like the defense made

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Speaker 6: five good plays to every one offensive play, right, and

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Speaker 6: now it's a little bit more. Even so, it's it's

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Speaker 6: good to see another really sharp day. I thought for

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Speaker 6: Drake may I thought he looks better and better with

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Speaker 6: each practice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what I saw on eleven on eleven's

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Speaker 2: things look smooth. They looked in rhythm, and we're not

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Speaker 2: just talking about little dump off passes. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, ten twelve yard passes down the

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Speaker 2: middle of the field, a lot of in cuts and

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Speaker 2: you know I saw Hunter Henry caught a nice ball

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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams might have had the play of the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that was That was the best one of

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Speaker 6: the day. It was from Josh Dobbs and just ran

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Speaker 6: right up the the middle of the field between the

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Speaker 6: two safeties and looked like ye had the linebacker is

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Speaker 6: and he just ran right through the entire defense for

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Speaker 6: about a forty yard bomb, So that's what you want

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Speaker 6: to see from him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just definitely beat the coverage and I was like,

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Speaker 1: who's eighteen u s. Kyle went yeah, good, yeah, good, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And then Treyvon Henderson had a touchdown in the

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Speaker 6: low red zone work that they were doing towards the

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Speaker 6: So both rookies. We were looking the part today, so

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Speaker 6: that was good to see. And I thought Will Campbell

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Speaker 6: So just in general, a good day for the offense.

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Speaker 6: And there haven't been a lot of times that we

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Speaker 6: good day for the offense. So we're moving in the

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Speaker 6: right direction on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So they were out there for what about ninety minutes

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Speaker 2: or so? Yeah, yeah, and like we said, I sense,

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Speaker 2: you know, really positive energy. Rabel was out there like

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is his usual self.

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Speaker 2: So just a lot of good energy out there a

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Speaker 2: lot of positive plays and you know the defense did

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they had some moments as well, and Carlon Davis

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Speaker 6: had a pass breakup. I thought early on in practice

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Speaker 6: They seem to clean that up a little bit offensively

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Speaker 6: it looked like an assignment issue. Jabrill Peppers just came

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're wondering, you know, with Stefan Diggs there, Yes,

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Speaker 2: he was taking part in positional drills, not taking part

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think the encouraging part from a mental

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Speaker 6: last couple of practices that he's been there, whether it's

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Speaker 7: Large media contingent today, I would say, nice media contention.

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Speaker 1: It was a cool day.

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Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't particularly warm, so perfect day for

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Speaker 6: As you would say, it kind of felt like that, honestly,

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Speaker 6: like that that had some juice and there had some

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Speaker 6: to see. I think. You know, the sequence land larising

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Speaker 1: Juice, I mean, what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Not much practice is great.

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Speaker 4: I'm in a weird position because I haven't talked to

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Speaker 4: bit weird, like watching the competitive piers for its probably

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Speaker 4: just jump in without I thought it was a good

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a good day for Drake May.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone else has said that yet.

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Speaker 1: Ye completed a lot of passes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Some of the periods to me just didn't seem as

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Speaker 4: thought for him, great day overall. He just looked brilliant command.

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Speaker 4: It looked like a continuation of of OTAs UH continues

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Speaker 4: to progress, and that was a big thing we talked

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Speaker 4: it was a great day for him. Throughout the day, though,

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Speaker 4: I think was was it was Josh Dobbs to Kyle

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Speaker 4: How far was I like fifty yards forty?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a bomb. It was a really nice throw.

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Speaker 2: The good thing about it, he's just split the d

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Speaker 2: and just beat them. It was he just flat out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was pretty.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty play.

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Speaker 3: That probably play of the day overall. But you know,

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Speaker 3: just a lot of consistency from Drake.

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Speaker 4: One other question I had for you have is, uh,

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Speaker 4: it was his last red zone period. I think somebody

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Speaker 6: Is Kendrick Borne was born again? Yeah, that's who it was.

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't quite.

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Speaker 6: See that was an incomplete in mind.

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Speaker 6: It was also late, so I just thought it was

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Speaker 4: Otherwise, I mean the you know, they were in the

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Speaker 1: Again, good day, good day for Drake.

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Speaker 4: I think it was encouraging to see him continue to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a throw early on in practice to

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Speaker 6: Kaishan Booty is a nine stop you know, run down

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Speaker 6: of you know, the timing anticipation of the throws that

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Speaker 6: that we have seen from him. So I love anticipatory

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Speaker 6: breaking And that's another one of those we were talking

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Speaker 6: about on the show before you know, where it adjusts

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Speaker 6: based off the coverage, so both guys got to be

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Speaker 6: And that was a good looking throw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean on time, that's what I sens like.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of you know, bringing the ball

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Speaker 5: Appreciate all.

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Speaker 1: So how was today for you?

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Speaker 9: Today was cool man? Good practice? You know, the offense

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Speaker 9: We also work hard, man, and everything we do we

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Speaker 5: Man, it's a good room.

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Speaker 9: We're all we all embrace each other, man, and we

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Speaker 9: And it's just good to have, man, because every day

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Speaker 5: And uh, coach book is doing this thing.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's that's what I feel like we're doing.

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Speaker 2: All right, forget about football for a second. Tell our

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Speaker 1: Know about you. About Jalen Hawkins, I.

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Speaker 4: Could tell you something after last summer, right right, Well, well,

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Speaker 3: And then I look, I'm like, it's freaking jaling luck.

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Speaker 1: It's walking intout Like if all the spots.

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Speaker 3: In Cape cod he found.

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Speaker 5: I I'm not seeing my dude. I'm like.

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Speaker 1: King, like the spot, like the Cape.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I drive up from the Cape every day.

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Speaker 2: What something that fans you want fans to know about

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Speaker 1: From you know, maybe reading the media guide.

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Speaker 1: If you got together with Marcus, I ain't with Marcus.

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Speaker 9: I love Japan just of just you know, if I

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Speaker 5: If I want to go to the beach or something

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Speaker 6: Maybe playing a game in Brazil someday.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: I know that we have Patriots Brazil my correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of our home markets. Nice.

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Speaker 9: Actually wednesday, I'm going for a few days on my

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's right, we just got married.

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Speaker 1: Still saw that on I g Yeah, So go down there.

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Speaker 1: All right, you're racking up those miles.

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Speaker 9: Man, I'm racking up my mom's my points there you go.

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Speaker 1: This is where we are.

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Speaker 5: Okay, sure, I appreciate you, guys, man coming by.

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Speaker 2: And if you need any Cape Cod recommendation the guys, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 6: There you go. Yeah, that's your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know Peppers was into music too. They

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Speaker 5: I don't know, a.

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Speaker 2: All right, right now, uh May is talking, So you'll

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Speaker 2: you won't you won't miss anything. We'll have the full

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Speaker 2: soon as it's over all. Right, eight five to five

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Speaker 2: past five hundred is the hotline, Mike. We were before

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Speaker 7: It's similar with Jack Westover again, it's just some opportunity reps.

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Speaker 1: You never know, like.

445
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Speaker 4: Sometimes they think the coaches just throw guys in there

446
00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,760
Speaker 4: to see, you know, if they can swim with the

447
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,919
Speaker 4: big guys and look, don't look out of place. But

448
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Speaker 4: it just catches your eye when all of a sudden

449
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Speaker 4: there are guys like Jack Westover, brock Lampy, you know,

450
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Speaker 4: with all guys you've been seeing out there. So doesn't

451
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Speaker 4: mean that they're making a roster push or anything, but

452
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Speaker 4: at least they're on the radar and clearly the coaches

453
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Speaker 4: are taking notice of them and giving them some opportunities.

454
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Speaker 4: But interesting with all the receivers coming back Kendrick Bourne.

455
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Speaker 1: Nice day, you know, a bunch of catches stuff.

456
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Speaker 4: For that one.

457
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Speaker 3: I guess he was out of bounds.

458
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Speaker 4: It was tough for Michael because you know, the defensive

459
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Speaker 4: guys on the dline are all going, nope, nob he's out,

460
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Speaker 4: he's out.

461
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,120
Speaker 3: And the offensive guys are spreading celebrating. So hard to tell.

462
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Speaker 4: But with those guys back in the mix a little bit.

463
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Speaker 4: Good to see him make some plays. Pop Douglass made

464
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Speaker 4: some plays, Hunter Henry made some plays. So it's just

465
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Speaker 4: you're starting to see the offenses starting to come together

466
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Speaker 4: a little bit, and it's just it's reassuring. I know

467
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Speaker 4: it was coming to this point, but anytime you get

468
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Speaker 4: out to that first ota and you saw some interceptions

469
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Speaker 4: from Drake, it's easy to overreact.

470
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Speaker 1: And be like, oh God, what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: We blow up the offense.

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Speaker 4: It kind of worked last year and this but I

473
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Speaker 4: think the signs are all pointed in the right direction

474
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Speaker 4: with Josh.

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Speaker 2: So we will be doing this again tomorrow practice. We'll

476
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Speaker 2: be out there at noon. Does Rabel have a press.

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Speaker 6: Conference again tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: I think okay, So he'll talk again at twelve fifteen.

479
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Speaker 2: Then we'll turn our cameras to the field and we'll

480
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Speaker 2: be up there until they tell us to turn our

481
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Speaker 2: cameras off. Then we'll watch practice and we'll come back

482
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Speaker 2: here in the studio at around two thirty and do another.

483
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Speaker 1: Wrap up show.

484
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Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty fun today, from which is

485
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Speaker 4: our perspective of doing the show this way. Sometimes it's

486
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Speaker 4: hard to talk and take things in at this same

487
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Speaker 4: time we talked through some of the early individual periods

488
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Speaker 4: and so it wasn't you were messing up. But then

489
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Speaker 4: for the team periods, we were able to get down

490
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Speaker 4: there and really take that stuff in, which I think

491
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Speaker 4: is we'll have to.

492
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Speaker 2: Come up with some storylines because we can't repeat what

493
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Speaker 2: we said today, so we'll come up with I wish

494
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Speaker 2: we could do the eleven on eleven, but I understand.

495
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they don't want all that on film.

496
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Speaker 6: They don't want people like me seeing that on film.

497
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Speaker 3: You're breaking it down twenty five times now.

498
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Speaker 4: It's but yeah, I think as you watch more of

499
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Speaker 4: these Rabel practices, you start to see a little to

500
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Speaker 4: a little bit of the method to the madness. I

501
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Speaker 4: don't know, maybe if it's just me getting you know,

502
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: six or seventh year now actually watching every practice, but

503
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Speaker 4: you start to see, all right, they practice it in

504
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Speaker 4: the red zone, then they get together and they play

505
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Speaker 4: it in the red zone, and they practice in the midfield,

506
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Speaker 4: and then they get to you know, so you see

507
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Speaker 4: how everything fits together.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's no different from a Belichick. Yeah

509
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Speaker 2: that's something you said. Maybe it's just me starting.

510
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Speaker 6: This is getting back to more I would say what

511
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Speaker 6: the rhythm of practice is similar to a Belichick practice,

512
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Speaker 6: whereas last year they had the West Coast coaches on

513
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 6: the offensive side and those guys just slow everything down

514
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 6: right where it's like play talk about it, play talk

515
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Speaker 6: about it, and like, you know, this practice is really

516
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Speaker 6: like everybody to the side. The coordinators are relaying the

517
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,719
Speaker 6: plays through the headset and it's like a game and

518
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Speaker 6: we're just running plays.

519
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Speaker 1: And just keeping the speed up.

520
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not to say that there's that's the wrong

521
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Speaker 6: way to do it where you know last year, because

522
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Speaker 6: that's what a lot of those coaches do from that tree.

523
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Speaker 6: So it's not like it hasn't been successful, but there's

524
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Speaker 6: definitely a more volume and more pace to this type

525
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Speaker 6: of practice and what we saw last year.

526
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Speaker 2: It's like we'll talk about it after in the classroom.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, let's.

528
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Speaker 1: Go to the phone. Sean'son Vancouver. What's up, Sean, Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: let me just pick up.

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Speaker 10: I just wanted to clarify the whole Wings thing of

531
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Speaker 10: the wings actually don't use drumsticks, those are really big.

532
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Speaker 10: They use drummet which are straight, so they get the

533
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Speaker 10: bunch get confused with the drumpsticks. Right, that's the thing.

534
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Speaker 10: It's not it's not actually leg it's it's part of

535
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Speaker 10: the wing, is.

536
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Speaker 1: The drum man, right, and they're attacked, right, they get separated.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, exactly one session I have about practice and

538
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Speaker 10: maybe he said I didn't hear. Did Carlton Davis participate today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: He did a pass break up?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yep, he did o great, okay, terrific.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think on Patriots dot com we had a nice

544
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Speaker 2: picture of he and Gonzo running down the field.

545
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Speaker 1: Together, so, uh cool. Yeah, that's going to be a

546
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Speaker 1: good duo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they had Hunter Henry tried to do one of

548
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Speaker 6: those sit on the goal line and just kind of

549
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Speaker 6: be big, and carl Davis got those long arms in

550
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Speaker 6: there and broke up the pass.

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Speaker 4: The length stands out to me seeing him in person,

552
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Speaker 4: once he gets you know, the pads on until you

553
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Speaker 4: get to this point a little bit of a sense

554
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Speaker 4: of the size of these guys.

555
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just he's a long dude. He's gonna make

556
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Speaker 1: a compliment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Polk didn't participate all in eleven eleven,

558
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Speaker 2: but he looks like you put on some good weight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There are quite a few guys, I think they're looking

561
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Speaker 3: good shape.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Polk, it seems like he is maybe in

563
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Speaker 4: the middle of the rehab process because he's not quite

564
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Speaker 4: there for the live periods, but in the in like

565
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Speaker 4: the walk through stuff, he'll put it on a yellow

566
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Speaker 4: opinion and go. So he's not as far as way

567
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Speaker 4: as some of the guys like on when you he's

568
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: not really doing much. Kyle Duggar not doing much yet,

569
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Speaker 4: the rookie Jared Wilson, He's not really doing much right now.

570
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Speaker 4: So there's definitely some guys that are still working their

571
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Speaker 4: way back and that maybe exkews some of the reps

572
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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Barton Poland writes in should we be worried about the

574
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Speaker 2: DC situation with Terrell Williams having a health scare, being

575
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Speaker 2: absent from the team activities and only working remotely so far?

576
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Speaker 2: Do you think this is something we should be more

577
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Speaker 2: concerned about? It feels like the topic isn't getting much attention,

578
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Speaker 2: but a formation coordinator not being there for the first

579
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Speaker 2: few months seems pretty important to me.

580
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Speaker 6: It's a fair point. I mean, I don't know, the

581
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Speaker 6: word concern has a lot is heavy, but he has

582
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Speaker 6: a health thing and you never want to like be

583
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Speaker 6: alarmist about that, like he's got to take care of

584
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Speaker 6: his health, right, you know, that's some important thing, but

585
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Speaker 6: it's not nothing. You know, certainly that's not the setup

586
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Speaker 6: that they had in mind. And Zach Kerr's mostly qualified.

587
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Speaker 6: He has had some interviews in the past for defensive

588
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Speaker 6: coordinator positions, so it's not like he's totally unqualified to

589
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Speaker 6: be in that role. But everyone I think we're waiting

590
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Speaker 6: and seeing if Terrell Williams is going to come back. Yeah,

591
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Speaker 6: I think.

592
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Speaker 4: It's it's a little reassuring to know that he's coach

593
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Speaker 4: with at Kerr.

594
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Speaker 3: I think he's coach with cletmc millan.

595
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Speaker 4: As well, Scott Booker stuff, so they have experienced together.

596
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Speaker 3: So and I also you know that Terrell.

597
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Speaker 4: Williams is said he's been around, he's been on Zoom,

598
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Speaker 4: so I think the team is familiar with him.

599
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Speaker 3: I think it's good that.

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Speaker 4: They have guys that are experienced with him though, because

601
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Speaker 4: if this was a little bit of a Frankenstein staff

602
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Speaker 4: like it was last year, where you had a mix

603
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Speaker 4: of new and old, then if you wonder are they

604
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Speaker 4: delivering the same message. I still have confidence that they

605
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Speaker 4: are and I also just wonder if maybe a positive

606
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Speaker 4: for this is that the team's going to rally around

607
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Speaker 4: and when he does get here, there you know, they

608
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Speaker 4: know he's been dealing with something.

609
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Speaker 1: I wonder if he's going to come here having lost

610
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Speaker 1: a lot of weight.

611
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah. I think the one big thing

612
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Speaker 6: to me with Williams isn't necessarily about them installing the

613
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Speaker 6: system and all that, because, like due said, all these

614
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Speaker 6: coaches have been in the system rables here, so he's

615
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Speaker 6: going to make sure the system gets installed properly. But

616
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Speaker 6: to my knowledge, Joe Williams doesn't have a ton of

617
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Speaker 6: play calling experience, and you know that he's going to

618
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Speaker 6: be the play caller that's the plan or the setup,

619
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Speaker 6: and so these practices kind of serve as practice for

620
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Speaker 6: the coaches too, and he gets in there and it's

621
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Speaker 6: a live practice. And Josh McDaniels is one of the

622
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Speaker 6: best play callers in the league. On the other side, like,

623
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Speaker 6: that's really good practice against McDaniels. To go up against

624
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Speaker 6: him and try to out you know, chess match and

625
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 6: out smart Josh McDaniels in some of these calls. That

626
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Speaker 6: is valuable. So in that respect, I think that's probably

627
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Speaker 6: the most important thing is you know, relaying the calls,

628
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Speaker 6: the communication and knowing how to you know, go up

629
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Speaker 6: against the coordinator like Josh, who's gonna mix it up

630
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Speaker 6: and give you different looks and things like that. So

631
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Speaker 6: it's tough. You can't really replicate that in any other way.

632
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Speaker 2: I would assume like he's getting the tape of practice

633
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Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, he's keeping up to speed at

634
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Speaker 2: least with what's going on for sure.

635
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Speaker 4: I think Evans is that that's probably the best point

636
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Speaker 4: of what you should be concerned about.

637
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Speaker 1: And small seat concerned.

638
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Speaker 4: Still plenty of time to catch up a couple of

639
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Speaker 4: sets of joint practices.

640
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Speaker 1: He'll get some experience.

641
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Speaker 4: But you know, even expanding upon that, it's hearing the

642
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: voice in your aid for the defenders and you know,

643
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Speaker 4: knowing the cadence of how they want things done. So

644
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Speaker 4: it's I'm not too worried about it. I think it's

645
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: things that can all be ironed out. It's just it's

646
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: just not ideal.

647
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and calling defense is different than calling offense, Like

648
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 6: calling defense is a lot I know easier. Honestly, frankly,

649
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 6: it's easy man, Like, Yeah, that's not there's only so

650
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 6: many defenses you can play, and it's very situational, like

651
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 6: we kind of play our base stuff on first and

652
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Speaker 6: second down, then you get after it on third down.

653
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Speaker 6: So like it's not like offense where you could be

654
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Speaker 6: having these like ten word calls and things like that.

655
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Speaker 6: It's it's much more streamlined than that.

656
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the more complicated thing on defense is

657
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: getting your groupings right, getting your subs right.

658
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that too, And I'm sure that Terrell Williams,

659
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Speaker 4: like I said, you know, it's hard to really get

660
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Speaker 4: a sense of these guys to see him in person.

661
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Speaker 1: It's probably killing him not to be able.

662
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Speaker 3: To see these guys on field and really get a.

663
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Speaker 1: Sense for how they're moving. You can watch the film.

664
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, there's something special.

665
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 4: About being there, feeling the vibe that these guys give

666
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: off when they play together.

667
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 6: Was it was it Boyer, one of the assistant coaches

668
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 6: the Patriots had over the years, was apparently the best

669
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 6: spotter of what the personnel the offense was running on

670
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 6: the field.

671
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Maddy p said that, and it.

672
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 6: Was like he was automatic to get the defense in

673
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 6: the right personnel package, and usually that guy sits up

674
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 6: top in the in the sky booth and radios.

675
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: There's a skill to that. Yeah, there really is.

676
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Robert who was in Henderson, Nevada.

677
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: What's up, Robert?

678
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 8: Hello? So I was calling because listening to Jalen Hawkins

679
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 8: and Bred talking about Cape cod and it don the

680
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 8: question because I want to visit the Cape sometime in

681
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 8: the near future, and recommendations on where to go getting

682
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 8: there and if it's like a thing of you do

683
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 8: the Cape, Martha's Vineyard and Nantuck or is it just

684
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 8: kind of you do want it? What's kind of like?

685
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it all just depends on how much time

686
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: you have.

687
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a lot of time, you know,

688
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: like two weeks, you know, you spend some time on

689
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: the Cape and then take the ferry over to Nantucket

690
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: and then visit Martha.

691
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: If you can do the whole thing, but you need

692
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: some time to do that, you know.

693
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say Nantucket's a day trip. You could

694
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 6: do Nantucket in the day. It's not as big as

695
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 6: Martha's Vineyard if you want to hit like all the

696
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: different little towns in Martha's Vineyard, you know, ob and

697
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 6: you know, like all those different places, and you probably

698
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 6: would need more time than one day, but Nantucket you

699
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: could definitely which.

700
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: One's the best. What do you like to do? Like, like,

701
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: you know.

702
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 8: I like the water, I like to be on the water.

703
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 8: I like to visit shops like Relax.

704
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so so Martha's viny and I think it's it's bigger.

705
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: But if you stay on the.

706
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Cape, you know, if you if you like waves and

707
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you want to go on the south

708
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: side of the Cape.

709
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Uh for those types of Uh.

710
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: If you don't care, then the north side is probably

711
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: more scenic, it's more historic. And if you like shopping

712
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: and eating, I would take a day where you go

713
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: all the way to the end of the Cape to

714
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: a place called Provincetown And there's a street there called

715
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Commercial Street, and all it is is stores and restaurants

716
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: and the people watching is second to none.

717
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: It's it's a really cool place.

718
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: I would do that during the week not on a weekend, yeah,

719
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: because it'll get packed. But Province Town, not Providence Provincetown. Yeah,

720
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: it's all the way at the end of the Cape

721
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: and it's a really really cool place.

722
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 6: Yeah. You can definitely do the vineyard in the day

723
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 6: two and the ferry, we'll take you right into Oak Bluffs,

724
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 6: which has beach shop restaurant exactly what you're talking about.

725
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 6: But you know, Nantucket has like one town center, whereas

726
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: the Vineyard had like three or four different little pockets

727
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 6: of centers. And so it just depends on what you're

728
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 6: looking for.

729
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: Nantucket you can probably do without. I mean, it's kind

730
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 4: of a very special thing. And I mean, personally I

731
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: love the cape. I found like Martha's Vineyard is Martha's Vineyard.

732
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you're still like

733
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: looking at saltwater taffy shops and little you know, it's

734
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: very similar no matter where you go.

735
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: But Fred's right Province Town.

736
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: And then I just throw on Main Street Hyghennas if

737
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: you don't want to drive all the way to the

738
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: tip of the cape. Hyennas right in the middle of

739
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: the cape and they've got similar lot of stuff shop.

740
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Robert, Well, enjoy your trip to the Cape.

741
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, some good advice there.

742
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: You come to the right place for this advice.

743
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we didn't even get into like what restaurants

744
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: to but that's a whole other show. Yeah, Brandon and

745
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Main write sin as a distinction the resident curmudgeon Paul

746
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: will appreciate.

747
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of hype.

748
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: And excitement for Diggs as wide receiver one, including you, Evan.

749
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: Do you all think he really is a wide receiver

750
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: one or is he just our number one? He just

751
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: screamed volume guy to me the last couple of years.

752
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: And while he's better than what we have, I'm not

753
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: expecting him to be a key for unlocking mace potential

754
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: or that of the offense.

755
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: I think you agree with his premise.

756
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, And that's like what I've been saying the

757
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 6: whole time. Like he's in now at this point of

758
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 6: his career, he's a chain mover. He is not the explosive,

759
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 6: big play over the top receiver that maybe he was

760
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 6: a little bit in Buffalo and at the end of Minnesota,

761
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 6: like he is turned into at this stage of his career.

762
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 6: He's kind of turned into that we're oute running technician

763
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 6: that on third down he's going to be a guy

764
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: that's going to get past the sticks and move the chain.

765
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 6: So in that sense, if that's like sort of what

766
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 6: he's then I hear that. I don't know. I'm I

767
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 6: think Doozy might be on the same page with me.

768
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 6: The whole wide receiver one thing's starting to bug me,

769
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 6: like it just like I don't know what that means.

770
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 6: Like yeah, like I get what you're trying to say,

771
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 6: but like I just I don't know, like is he

772
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 6: a wide receiver? I don't know, Like maybe like I

773
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: will see.

774
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: Like like well, he mentions, is he just our wide

775
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: receiver one?

776
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Like yeah, so can a wide receiver one look different

777
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: on different teams? Like you know in your mind, like

778
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: the obvious one is justin Jefferson Jamar Chase. Those are

779
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: like wide receiver, right, you know, but like if Stefan

780
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: Diggs and our team has one hundred and ten catches, yeah,

781
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: what's wrong with that?

782
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 5: Right?

783
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: But they're chain moving catches and not like bomb bomb.

784
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, I hear. I get what it is.

785
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: I just think there's like a handful and you named

786
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: a couple of them from of guys that everybody wants,

787
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: like the superstar wide receivers.

788
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Stefon Diggs still a superstar wide receiver.

789
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still so he has a

790
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: couple of would you rathers?

791
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to pick on him you know me

792
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Gigs at.

793
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 7: This point, Yeah, Young, same thing with Wilson, right, yeah,

794
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 7: Young Jerry, Judy Diggs, Ye Flowers.

795
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: I do love to save Flowers. I don't know, there's

796
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 6: such different players, Like I think this is the hard

797
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 6: part with me with the receiver, like what like that's

798
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: they're just differult I wouldn't.

799
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: Tell you that Flowers is number one receiver right now.

800
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 6: They keep searching for him.

801
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, Courtland Sutton, who.

802
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 6: I mean, Courtland Sutton is like a jump ball outside,

803
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 6: big bodied receiver and we're comparing.

804
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: Him to it.

805
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 6: It's hard.

806
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: It's like I think on our team, I take Diggs

807
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: me too.

808
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 6: I know what I'm saying. I just think that's the

809
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 6: thing for me is like if Diggs is going to

810
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: fill into that role that we've seen and maybe it's

811
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 6: a little bit more outside than it than like Edelman

812
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 6: and Welker and like those types of guys, but if

813
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 6: he's going to be the engine of the offense, then

814
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: he then he's a wide receiver one like he he's

815
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 6: the engine like and to me, you know, I think

816
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 6: this is where like Paul always will say, well, you

817
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 6: know it's why like catch for eight yards. It's like, well,

818
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 6: if it's third and seven, then I'll take the eight yards.

819
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 6: And that's gonna be the type of guy that he's

820
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 6: gonna be. He's not going to be Courtland Sutton. He's

821
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: not going to be a six foot four outside receiver

822
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 6: that's gonna like catch jump balls fifty yards down the field.

823
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 6: It's not gonna be his game.

824
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 4: I just I just don't get the premise though, that

825
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: somehow that that receiver would be better for Drake May's

826
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: development than a route technician who's gonna get open on

827
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 4: third down.

828
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: Like, to me, the way you're keeping confidence building.

829
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: Right, Like Diggs is kind of, like I said on

830
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 4: the pregame show, like he just is going to get

831
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: you out of that rut and give you somebody you

832
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: always say, Fred they're easy to defend, Like Diggs is

833
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 4: somebody that on third down you probably are gonna have

834
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: to figure out where he is and have a plan

835
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: to cover him and stop him. I know we've watched

836
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: plenty of Patriots games against when he was with the

837
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: Bills and even.

838
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: Last year when he was in the Texans.

839
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: Where you're like, third down, make sure you cover digs,

840
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 4: and then it's like Yeah, this little, you know, quick

841
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: route that's perfectly executed and the ball's right on him

842
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: and it's first down.

843
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: That to me seems like it's it's gonna be a

844
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: great bonus for Drake.

845
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: There's no doubt that there's a question about the overall,

846
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 6: like the explosiveness still of this offense. Like they they

847
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 6: have guys like Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs that within

848
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 6: that twenty yard box of the line of scrimmage can

849
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 6: make plays. Is there anybody that's going to break out

850
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 6: of that twenty yard box? And maybe it's Kyle will it's.

851
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Going to bring that up.

852
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: We saw that today.

853
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: So if that's an element that Kyle Wims is going

854
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: to bring and Drake may ain't afraid to throw those

855
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: deep balls.

856
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 3: That might come together the way that people want. Now

857
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: who's the one, who's the two?

858
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it could be a very hard offense.

859
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Audrey said on the show that we did it looked

860
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: like we were at a morgue.

861
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: She said, is that a covered body in front of

862
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: you guys? So I don't know what it looked like.

863
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 6: The black criticism that's okay, said Sor Right, Okay, Sor right,

864
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 6: let's get back to the phones.

865
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: We'll go to Kendall in North Carolina. I hate Kendall.

866
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on, guys doing all right?

867
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 11: Yeah?

868
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 10: Well, and will y'all impressed with the cal Williams his

869
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 10: day today and just overall, what y'all spring and I

870
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 10: take it up there.

871
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Okay, thanks Kendall. I mean, we saw

872
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: him make the catch of the day today.

873
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: The juice is real, Like, there's definitely burst and speed

874
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 6: to his game. I'm sure that there's a lot of

875
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 6: little details that he's still getting, you know, caught up

876
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 6: on and learning at this you know level of football.

877
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 6: I mean, but there's no doubt that he moves well,

878
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: like I mean, we saw it today, ran right through

879
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 6: the middle of the defense and nobody touched him, you know,

880
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 6: so that that's definitely encouraging. I would say the same

881
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 6: thing about Trevon Henderson. Now, is he grasping it? You know,

882
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: is he running the right routes and is he doing

883
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: the right things at all the time? Like I don't know,

884
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: you know, Josh McDaniels would have to tell you that,

885
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 6: but I think you're encouraged by the way he moves.

886
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a.

887
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: Big joint practice guy. Like, how's he get off the line?

888
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 11: Like?

889
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 4: Does that release pass translate to physical press corners?

890
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 6: It's a great point. That's the number one thing is

891
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 6: you know when they get into the pads and they

892
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 6: start pressing him. He's a smaller guy, He's one hundred

893
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 6: and ninety pounds, Like, is he gonna be able to

894
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 6: get off press at this level? If not, then he's

895
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 6: you know, you're gonna have to maybe play him inside

896
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 6: and off the line of scrimmage a little bit more.

897
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's next go to Colin in Connecticut. What's

898
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: up Colin?

899
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Colin? Hello, Yeah, Hello.

900
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 11: A couple of questions. I'll make it click. What's your

901
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 11: biggest worry with the defense? I know you've mentioned big

902
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 11: plays being a possible worry, but anything else. And then

903
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 11: you guys mentioned Jared Wilson and Mike and Winu hooking

904
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 11: about an injury.

905
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're just rehabbing. Yeah, they're they're rehabbing right now.

906
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: They're limited there, yeah, limited, you know, we're working through stuff.

907
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: They're in some drills, they're not others. I would say

908
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: my two biggest concerns are speed off the edge and

909
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: rangey free safety like coverage on.

910
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: The back end.

911
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say pass rush off the edge. Yeah,

912
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 6: I think that's right.

913
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: Now.

914
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 6: I'm pretty confident that Harold Andry is going to be solid.

915
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: He seems very excited in the post game post practice interviews.

916
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: He seems like he's re energizing it.

917
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure he's going to be solid. He's been

918
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 6: a solid run defender even last year, throughout his entire career.

919
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 6: Are they going to have enough juice off the edge?

920
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 6: You know, they're gonna get the pressure up the middle

921
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 6: from the two guys, you know, Barmore and Williams. But

922
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 6: who's going to clean up? Who's going to get the

923
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 6: edge rush? You know that's going to be.

924
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: You can expect both those edge guys to get one

925
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: on one matchups, probably because Barmore and Williams are probably

926
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: gonna draw some double teams in attention, and those guys

927
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: have to be able to take advantage of those of

928
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 4: those one on one.

929
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean, my my fear is like we brought all

930
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: these free agents in and they look good, they seem

931
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: to fit. It's the right guys, but rarely when you

932
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: bring in that many like do they all hit?

933
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

934
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: And I think for this team, we need them kind

935
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: of all to hit, you know, the higher ones. You know,

936
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: we need Spelane to be good, we need Judie would

937
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: be good, We need you know, obviously Williams to be good.

938
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, they all have to hit for this defense

939
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: to be good this year.

940
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 6: It's a great point, like you get teams. You know,

941
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 6: last year, the Tennessee Titans spent a bunch of money

942
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 6: in free agency, and they won as many games as

943
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 6: the Patriots. Right now, the Washington Commander spent a bunch

944
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 6: of money in free agency, went to the NFC Championship game. Yeah,

945
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 6: and when you when you have this model, there doesn't

946
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: seem to be a middle ground there where it's like

947
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 6: we won eight games right right, It's like you're either

948
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 6: a playoff team because of it or it didn't work

949
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 6: and it blew up in your face and there's really

950
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 6: no in between.

951
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: You know, throw Carlton Davison there too, Like sure, I

952
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: mean these are all good players that you brought in,

953
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: but that doesn't always mean that every free agent that

954
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: you bring in, you know, hits.

955
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're putting a lot on a lot

956
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 4: of these guys. It's remarkable to me. I mean, you guys,

957
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 4: have you guys, Fred and Paul had some experience watching

958
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 4: coaching changes and wholesale changes on defense. You know last

959
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: year there wasn't wholesale changes on defense. It was in

960
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: large part the same defense. So that's it's a new

961
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: experience for me now looking out there and seeing just

962
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: so many new faces on the defensive side of the ball,

963
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: not only in.

964
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Support roles, but really calling the defense.

965
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: And like the key guys are like Robert Splaine and

966
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: Milton Williams and Harold Landry, Like, yeah, these are the

967
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: key pieces to the defense this year that we have

968
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: no real experience watching it.

969
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 6: I mean Roberts, yeah, Robert Splain is like probably gonna

970
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 6: be your green dot.

971
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

972
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 6: And he's never played a game in the Patriot uniform before.

973
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 6: Now he's been in this defense before, so he has

974
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 6: some experience with it. But like he's your starting Mike linebacker,

975
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 6: so you think he's the one calling the defense.

976
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 4: I just I have more confidence too, because I think

977
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: we've washed away the feeling of like Bill Belichick's defenses

978
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: are so complex and there's gonna be week to week,

979
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: we're gonna change and we can be anything. They don't

980
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: really seem interested in that. They're just like, we are

981
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: going to get after you really fast and be aggressive.

982
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 4: You might land a couple punches on us, but I promise.

983
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: You we're going to lay some on you. It all

984
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: starts with Gonzo and Davis. If they can do their jobs,

985
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: if they can truly be.

986
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: True one on one cornerbacks, and obviously they've shown that

987
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: they can in this league, that frees up everything. Then

988
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: you don't have to be so you know, game plan specific,

989
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: because we're going to take out two of your guys

990
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: and we're going to free up the rest so that

991
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: you know, we don't have to double you know, certain

992
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: players and that that is so freeing for a defense

993
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: to have two shutdown corners on your team.

994
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it buy it buys time for the

995
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 4: edge rush you know that we're talking about. It also

996
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: means that they don't have to run as many games,

997
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: and I think that's you know, when defenses start to

998
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 4: get in trouble and can't get pressure conventionally, when guys

999
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: can't win one on one matchups, that's when you start

1000
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: going to you know, stunts and loops and all that

1001
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: stuff that I'm sure they're going to do anyway. I mean,

1002
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: that's you know what verybol and Williams did in Tennessee.

1003
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 4: But you just don't want to have to be overly

1004
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 4: relying on it. You don't want to have to be

1005
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: able to have to scheme up pressure. You want to

1006
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: be able to produce pressure. The interior guys should not

1007
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: have a problem doing that, But you just don't want

1008
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 4: defense or offenses to be able to say, protect the middle,

1009
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: make sure he can step up. They don't have the

1010
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: juice to get around the edge on us or just

1011
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: step up in the pocket. As long as we hold

1012
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 4: with those two guys, we're gonna have enough on the pockets.

1013
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: But you know, you talk about complimentary defense, and you know,

1014
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: the pass rush compliments the coverage. The coverage compliments the

1015
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: pass rush. And I think we're from the from the

1016
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: get go. We've got two guys that can really set

1017
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: the tone now and juries are going to happen, you know,

1018
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: so you always have to be concerned with depth. That's

1019
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: a concern for every team. So you know, if one

1020
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: of those guys goes down, you know that that's an issue,

1021
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 2: and I'll look at linebacker. I think I'm a little

1022
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: bit worried about depth at linebackers as well.

1023
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 6: I would say, really at all three levels of the defense.

1024
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 6: Like I feel like they've made a lot of progress

1025
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 6: on both sides of the ball with the starting eleven

1026
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: on both sides, and you start to put the you know,

1027
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: the projections together and you're like, all right, this is

1028
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 6: a pretty good starting defense. But in pretty much all

1029
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 6: areas they have questions about depth. You know, they really

1030
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 6: don't have much, you know, into your defensive line depth.

1031
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 6: You're going to start to get into you know, the

1032
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 6: Jeremiah Farms is and you know, maybe the Joshua Farmer

1033
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 6: and like, yeah, you know, rookies playing and things like that.

1034
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 6: But I'm sure that's true for a lot of teams.

1035
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 6: And we're just we are hyper focused on this team,

1036
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 6: but on on offense too, Like if Will Campbell gets hurt,

1037
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 6: god forbid, Like who's playing its Madarian Lowe back out

1038
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 6: there left tackle, right, Like they don't necessarily have that

1039
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 6: layer built up yet, And you start looking at like

1040
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 6: the two deeps and stuff.

1041
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I just you take Landry out, he take

1042
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: splane out.

1043
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: He taken Zalis out, like.

1044
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of key threads and every like

1045
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: you said, every team has those things. But that's why

1046
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: you look at a guy like Jack Gibbons maybe or

1047
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: one of the young guys would would get a chance.

1048
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: But you can only rebuild so much. In what I mean,

1049
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: it is.

1050
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: Hard to have quality depth in the NFL throughout. I

1051
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: think where teams really get hurt is when you get

1052
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: that slew of injuries at one in one area. Then

1053
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: it's like almost possible. But on a good team, well coached,

1054
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: everybody knows what they're doing, so you can weather that

1055
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: storm if they're sprinkled in different places, you know. So

1056
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: if it's just a farm's coming in, you know, and

1057
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: it's not two guys having to come in, then you

1058
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: know a lot of times good teams will they'll be

1059
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: able to handle that, you know.

1060
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 6: But my favorites is the Djenga theory. It's like you

1061
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 6: know Jenga, Yeah, and it's like every piece isn't the same, right,

1062
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 6: every Like they're all different spots and stuff like that.

1063
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 6: So each team has like, you know, pieces that if

1064
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 6: you pull it out, the tower is gonna come down.

1065
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: Like Drake May gets pulled out the tower it goes to.

1066
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 6: But like the are certain players that like it will

1067
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 6: be wobbly, but you can probably like get away with it,

1068
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 6: you know, I think, you know, Drake may Gonzo, I

1069
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 6: would say at this point, Will Campbell, just because of

1070
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 6: what they have behind him at left tackle is a

1071
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 6: very you know, important piece, and you know, maybe a

1072
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 6: couple of.

1073
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: Why they call them pillars, pillar falls, the house falls,

1074
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: Destiny writes in I was having a discussion with some

1075
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: friends about the GPS tra that the athletes use, the

1076
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: ones that look like they're wearing a bra. What do

1077
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: you guys think about the look of it? Well, I

1078
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: mean it's underneath, you know, like the soccer players more

1079
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: before the football player. It's kind of got a sports

1080
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: bra vibe.

1081
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: It does, you know, it certainly does.

1082
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 6: It's not something I considered myself with too often, but

1083
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 6: I do. Like he was asked again, verybel was asked

1084
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 6: again today about the role of analytics. And we often

1085
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 6: think about analytics in terms of like fourth down decision

1086
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 6: making and stuff like that, but the sports sciences is

1087
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 6: maybe analytics adjacent that we don't bring up as much,

1088
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: And that type of stuff has come a long way

1089
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 6: in terms of like almost being able to be predictive

1090
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 6: about certain injuries, like especially like soft tissue and stuff

1091
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: like that, where it's like this guy's had a few

1092
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 6: too many live practice reps and like we're worried that

1093
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 6: he's starting to get some wear and tear, so let's

1094
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 6: pull him out of practice, you know a little bit

1095
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 6: this week and or something along those lines. It's kind

1096
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 6: of cool, like they're able to really almost guess, you know,

1097
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 6: be predictive about anticipating injuries. You know, you obviously can't

1098
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 6: anticipate all of them, but some of them, which is

1099
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 6: kind of cool. That's what that thing does. Sports problem.

1100
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: But I think Destiny was just worried about what the

1101
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: look it does.

1102
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: It could probably improve a little bit. It could probably

1103
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: be like a necklace or something.

1104
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 6: Well there's sensors on it, right, Like it's a hard

1105
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 6: monitor and like stuff like that.

1106
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeaheah.

1107
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: You got to have something that's very tightly fit and

1108
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: doesn't you know, impede any of the other equipment.

1109
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: So I guess it makes sense that it's style that way.

1110
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: It is pretty remarkable that, I mean, we look at

1111
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: the portal or what she's a blanket on the name

1112
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: the next gen stats that we watch and like the

1113
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: next day when those that stuff comes out, all the

1114
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 4: stats and everything that they they're able to tabulate max speed,

1115
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: you're not even you don't even see all of them.

1116
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: I even imagined.

1117
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 4: But it's it's, you know, it's just really interesting sometimes,

1118
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: like who ran the fastest yesterday?

1119
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: And like there is you know, it's cool.

1120
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: Yep, let's see who was this? This is Ram? Yeah,

1121
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Ram is writing in he was, he said, listening to

1122
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: your podcast and your references to the great seventies team,

1123
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: I thought about a player who I rooted against but

1124
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: wish was ours as a comparison for Drake May.

1125
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: And that's Baltimore's Burt Jones.

1126
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, Burt Jocks.

1127
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: He threw for over three thousand yards in a fourteen

1128
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: game schedule, twenty four tds, nine interceptions, logged over one

1129
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: hundred season passer rating only one of three in the seventies,

1130
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 2: and won an MVP in seventy six. So he goes

1131
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: down the line as to you know why he did.

1132
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: But I hope he's not just Burt Jones, because Burt

1133
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: Jones really wasn't that mobile. You know, he was a

1134
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: pocket passer, but he says, these days, I think we

1135
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: want to see a contemporary icon in our own players.

1136
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: Drake May can't be Mahomes, Rogers, Alan or Jackson. He

1137
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: has to craft his own identity. But in the past

1138
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 2: there have been players who have had very similar skill

1139
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: sets to May that have excelled in the most competitive eras.

1140
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: If May can grow into what Burt Jones at his peak,

1141
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: I think we should all be a static.

1142
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: We'll take it, I know.

1143
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: I mean, he's no Burt Jones.

1144
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: We'll throw that a policy if he can pick that

1145
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 4: one up. But yeah, no, I mean I like it.

1146
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 4: I mean it's just Drake. Drake May's got a car of.

1147
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: His own way, no question.

1148
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 4: There's a lot of focus on him this year and

1149
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: his development and how does he do when the game's

1150
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: hanging in the balance, in the clutch? You know, those

1151
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 4: are those to me, are are the biggest questions that

1152
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: want to see him him answer this year to get

1153
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: the opportunity. Heard Abel bring it up again today in

1154
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: his press conference, seeing a clip of of being good

1155
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: enough to.

1156
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: Take advantage of bad football.

1157
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: That's the bar right now for this team, and I

1158
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: think if they can get to that point though they'll

1159
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 4: win some games.

1160
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 6: I hate like looking ahead to the schedule because things

1161
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: change drastically, and like teams come out of nowhere and

1162
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 6: they're good when you think they're going to be bad.

1163
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 6: But if they can do the bare minim of taking

1164
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 6: advantage of bad football, like Rabel keeps bringing up, the schedule,

1165
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 6: sets up that they can win a lot a lot

1166
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 6: of that. But do it now right right, and it

1167
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 6: might not. It might be like the twenty twenty two

1168
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 6: season where there's some rock fights in there and it's

1169
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 6: not pretty. But like if they do that at the bottom,

1170
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 6: you know, that's their their bottom, you know their their floor.

1171
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 6: That's probably good enough for seven or eight wins with

1172
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 6: this schedule, Like I mean.

1173
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 4: I think you need to too, Like I just I'm

1174
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: like looking at the players out there and remembering some

1175
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 4: of the training camp practices that I watched in twenty

1176
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: twenty and twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two and

1177
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. You know, they're building a little better here now.

1178
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: Like it just it feels like there's something going on

1179
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 4: where it's not just like, oh please God save us

1180
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: from Ander Stevens, and it's Travion Henderson is in back

1181
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: of him now, and you know it's not Oh God,

1182
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne, please save us, like Stefan diggsists here now.

1183
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're starting.

1184
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 6: A number one.

1185
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: That's one ben't see. But it's there's a lot more excitement.

1186
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: There's a lot more reason to believe. I think in

1187
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 4: the past you were kind of counting on the coaching

1188
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: staff Bill Belichick specifically, would pull this together and somehow

1189
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 4: make a winner out of these guys. It's not as

1190
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: much of a lift. It feels like there's more talent

1191
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 4: on this team across the board, and then there's more speed.

1192
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: Frankly too, I think you just you feel that kind

1193
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 4: of coming off the practice field.

1194
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: Again.

1195
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: We'll see if it's translated, but I just I think

1196
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: there's a lot of reasons to be more optimistic right

1197
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: now than you might have been in years past, just

1198
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 4: based on the personnel.

1199
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 6: Well, the good news about going four and thirteen back

1200
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 6: to back years as you pick up the top of

1201
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 6: the round to get down right, right right, So you

1202
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 6: picked Drake May, you pick Will Campbell, and then you're

1203
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 6: in the top of the round every round. So you're

1204
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 6: picking you know, hot players that like Travon Henderson and

1205
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: Kyle Williams, Like these are guys we talked about and

1206
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 6: guys that were on everybody's boards and everybody was excited about.

1207
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 6: And when you're picking in the thirties and then you're

1208
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 6: picking again in the sixties and you have that high

1209
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 6: pick every single round that if you hit, and theory

1210
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 6: you should start to hit on some of these guys.

1211
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I didn't hear any you know, reaches this

1212
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: year during the draft, you know, like.

1213
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: Now that was a reach.

1214
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, Woodson probably the first one and

1215
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 6: really the only one.

1216
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only one that was.

1217
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: But I mean as we watch him a little bit,

1218
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 4: you understand what they were looking at. And he again

1219
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 4: was involved today. And just to echo what I said

1220
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: in the in the first part, you know, still looking

1221
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 4: at Swinson and ponder like can one of those guys

1222
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 4: be one of the answers to the thing we're talking

1223
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: about with concerns about age.

1224
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: So, like I said at the top of the show, tomorrow,

1225
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: we're going to be doing it again. Twelve fifteen is

1226
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: when Rabel starts his press conference. We'll start our cameras

1227
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: at noon, so we'll you know, hit up the field

1228
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: and see guys arriving.

1229
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: Then we'll go to Rabel.

1230
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: Then we'll go to practice, and we'll keep the cameras

1231
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: on and we'll be on until they tell us to

1232
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: turn the cameras off, and then we'll be back in

1233
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: the studio tomorrow at two thirty.

1234
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: To wrap it up again.

1235
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: So I guess it's public knowledge now that they're not

1236
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: going to practice on Wednesday.

1237
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they emailed media. Yeah okay, it sounds like

1238
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 6: they're going to be working on the field doing some

1239
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 6: conditioning and stuff, but not an actual practice.

1240
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so and we're not invited. We are not, Okay,

1241
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: all right, So.

1242
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: It'll be two days of this.

1243
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: Uh. You know, you wonder like what's going to be

1244
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: a good camp in Rabel's mind, Like, you know, what

1245
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: will they do today and tomorrow that afterwards he'll say, Okay,

1246
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: that was good, We're on the right foot.

1247
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: What are the things he's looking?

1248
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I would just highlight one small thing, which

1249
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: was I think we had one defensive off sides today

1250
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: that was a penalty. But we haven't seen a lot

1251
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: of false starts, mental errors. The sprints happened, I know,

1252
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 4: Mike Reese, I think wrote about it in his notes

1253
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: this weekend, like it's Drake May calling out the cadence,

1254
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 4: then it's Rabel calling out the cadence working on starting

1255
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 4: on time.

1256
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: We'll see if that stuff translates.

1257
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: But I think when Rabel talked at the beginning of

1258
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: these camps and again he said today, these are really

1259
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: extension of OTA's, it's just about being on the same page,

1260
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 4: not making mental mistakes, not making the same mistakes twice.

1261
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: And from what I've seen, it seems like they're progressing.

1262
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: Okay. You'd like to hope that when you end this

1263
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 6: that you have the foundation set of the playbooks on

1264
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 6: both sides, so that when you get into training camp

1265
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 6: you can have some fun, right, Like, that's when you

1266
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: can really start scheming stuff up and really start putting

1267
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 6: in the fun stuff into the especially on the offense,

1268
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 6: so can you get your basic install installed. And then

1269
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 6: usually the first couple of days of training camp is

1270
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 6: a refresher of what you did during OTA's. But at

1271
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 6: that point there, once we get into the joint practices,

1272
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 6: they're really starting to scheme stuff up, and it's not

1273
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 6: just you know, Frankly, a lot of the plays they

1274
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 6: run are like high school teams run a lot of

1275
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 6: the same plays, right, so once you get to that level,

1276
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 6: you know, hopefully you're you're at a different level coming

1277
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 6: training camp, where As I think the last couple of

1278
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 6: years they were kind of stuck on basic install for

1279
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 6: maybe a little bit longer than they wanted to be.

1280
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're going to wrap it up. Thank

1281
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: you for listening. Remember we're going to be back at

1282
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: noon tomorrow live at noon tomorrow.

1283
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,960
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1284
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:54,799
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1285
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,480
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1287
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1288
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,480
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1289
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1290
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