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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning everybody. Welcome in huge day of college ball.

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Speaker 2: I know the guys are all fired up for the

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Speaker 2: Buckeyes today, Right, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 3: Got It's that email last night. I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Bucks.

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Speaker 2: It's like go box, am I right?

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Speaker 4: Did I get an amen?

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Speaker 3: That was the last thing I read before I went

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Speaker 2: That's breaking out replies. By the way, crazy, I didn't

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Speaker 2: get a reply from the Nitney Lions choir over here.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, fellas. What are you thinking. Let's cut to

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Speaker 2: the chase here. What are you thinking about your conservative

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Speaker 2: dink and dunk Nitney Lions against the Ohio State. Did

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Speaker 2: they open it up a little bit today?

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 2: I might have to.

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Speaker 6: It's possible they may have to be I would say

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Speaker 6: if they If they do have to, they're probably trailing.

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Speaker 2: By two scores.

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Speaker 6: That's the reason why they're opening it up. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the the best way to win games is to try

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Speaker 6: to play to your personality. If you're a front runner,

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Speaker 6: like say the Miami Dolphins this year, and you just whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 2: I'm catching strays already. Goodness, I say, what one little

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Speaker 2: joke about your Penn State Niitney Lions.

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Speaker 6: I'm raising for cup over here, fins, When when when

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Speaker 6: when you're front runner or I mean usc perfect example

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Speaker 6: of another team who's built to play with a lead.

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Speaker 6: You want to jump on a team early, You want

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Speaker 6: to score fast, and you want to keep scoring because

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Speaker 6: the fear is well, defensively, we'll get found out, you know.

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Speaker 6: And and so that's not a Penn State's game. Their

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Speaker 6: game is we want to rely on the run game.

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Speaker 6: We obviously want to keep the ball close to the

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Speaker 6: line of scrimmage in the past game, and we want

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Speaker 6: to rely on this tremendous defense we have. And and

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Speaker 6: if you can slow down Ohio State's offense. That game

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Speaker 6: plan works on the road in the horseshoes. So, like

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Speaker 6: I said, if you're gonna win this game, it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be because you're playing a characteristic football game, a very

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Speaker 6: Penn State looking football game. If this game starts opening

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Speaker 6: up and we start seeing, you know, the early signals

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Speaker 6: of a shootout, even if that's a game that Penn

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Speaker 6: State is in at the moment, I don't think they

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Speaker 6: very nervous as a Penn State fan.

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Speaker 4: If if that's what it looks like early on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just more about managing the emotions

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Speaker 3: of this game. This is the season, like the season

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Speaker 3: hasn't started yet, like it's been I know there's no

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Speaker 3: preseason in college football, but but Penn State hasn't played

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Speaker 3: anyone and you know, Ohio State has had one really

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Speaker 3: tough game, and you could say that they were outplayed

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Speaker 3: in that game and probably should have lost. And I

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Speaker 3: think when we look at this game, especially in the

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Speaker 3: first half, that's where we've seen a lot of money

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Speaker 3: come in on the under. And it's weird because the

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Speaker 3: total in the game is forty six, but the first

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Speaker 7: A half, which is less than half than the full

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Speaker 3: So it just kind of shows you what the smart

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Speaker 3: Rich just said. You start slow, you try to get

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Speaker 3: then you got to open things up. And that's that's

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Speaker 3: what happened in the second half of last year's game,

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Speaker 3: and that's why it went over. So I I just

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Speaker 3: whichever quarterback doesn't defecate down their leg in the second half,

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Speaker 3: I think that team probably wins the game. That's just

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Speaker 3: how I feel, because no quarterback in this game has

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Speaker 2: Well that's what I come back to. With Penn State

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Speaker 2: in particular, Like you said, Rich, their defense has been

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Speaker 2: lights out just awesome, leading the country in multiple categories.

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Speaker 2: But to Jared's point, what offense that Penn State has

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Speaker 2: We'll run down the list real fast. West Virginia, Delaware, No, Illinois,

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Speaker 2: New Iowa, Northwestern humss Yeah yeah. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: over the place. That's not what Ohio State is. But

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Speaker 2: they pose a much bigger threat than any of those

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Speaker 2: what Penn State's defense does on the road stepping up

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Speaker 2: in weight class a significant notch here, because that's not

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Speaker 2: quality what they face thus far. And when they face

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Speaker 6: And that's really really difficult to replicate at practice. Also,

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Speaker 6: when you don't have as quality of an offense, I mean,

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Speaker 6: what player or players on that team can show you

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Speaker 6: what Ohio State's going to do to you from a

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Speaker 6: standpoint of ross speed. And you have to remember, if

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Speaker 6: you don't play against quality offenses, well then that's your

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Speaker 6: to prepare.

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Speaker 2: So the past four.

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Speaker 6: Games, you name them, Illinois, Iowa, Northwestern, UMass, those teams

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Speaker 6: say below one hundred in terms of how poor their

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Speaker 6: offense play, only ranking them Ohio State's in the top twenty.

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Speaker 6: You know, in virtually every metric you look at. You

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Speaker 6: know so man Penn State's best chance is let the

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Speaker 6: this game, the Nitney Lions have to put.

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Speaker 4: Extreme pressure on Kyle McCord.

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Speaker 6: Get in his kitchen early, make him um comfortable, get

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Speaker 6: him off his spot. Even if you're not getting sacks

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Speaker 6: installing drives, you need to get him off his spot.

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Speaker 6: You need to hit him after he throws the football.

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Speaker 6: You need to get those pressures. Look, Max Crosby in

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Speaker 6: the NFL is one of the best pass rushers that

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Speaker 6: he's constantly affecting a quarterback's ability to throw on time,

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Speaker 4: That's what this needs to look like.

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Speaker 6: I don't care how many sacks you get, as long

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Speaker 6: because he's worried about getting his head ripped off. That's

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Speaker 6: how you play football at at at a rate that

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Speaker 3: I'm trying not to knock the teams that haven't played

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure coaches stretched this all the time. I

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Speaker 3: stress this in my personal life every day. Control what

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Speaker 3: you know, the idiot troll that's yelling at you on Twitter.

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Speaker 7: You can't control that.

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Speaker 3: Control the quality of your work, the quality of your day,

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Speaker 3: your mental your health, fitness, all that stuff. Penn State

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Speaker 3: has to be like, we can't knock them yet for

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Speaker 3: what they haven't done. Like they've passed every quiz, right,

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Speaker 3: it's only been the pop quizzes so far. They haven't

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Speaker 3: really had the midterm yet. Today is the midterm and

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Speaker 3: we'll find out how good they are. The talent's certainly there,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes when you push people to a higher level,

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Speaker 3: for us. And you could say saying about Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: I know that they've played the game against Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: be honest, it's been underwhelming. And I think if you

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Speaker 3: though the competition has been more subpar for Penn State,

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Speaker 3: I think their performances have been stronger.

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Speaker 7: Their defense is just I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, they have made those bad teams look really bad,

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Speaker 3: and that's encouraging because at least they're not letting these

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Speaker 3: you're playing a soft schedule and you're not dominating that schedule,

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Speaker 3: then the red flags pop up. But we can't control

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Speaker 3: who's on their schedule. Everyone they've faced, especially defensively, they

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Speaker 7: I think that's an encouraging sign.

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Speaker 3: And maybe it's just a fan in me, but I

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Speaker 3: together a performance today and you just hope that Drew

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Speaker 3: Aller makes a few throws. It's really the receiver group

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Speaker 3: that I think has been the struggle. They haven't had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's it reminds me of a college

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Speaker 2: because of the competition that they faced. So that's what

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Speaker 2: I think with Penn State. Penn State in particular, they

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Speaker 2: figure out how they're gonna fare against Ohio State today.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this is what I do know. James

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Speaker 2: Franklin is trying to pull a Jim Harbaugh. Not stealing

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Speaker 2: signs or anything. But if you look at Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: early on in his career against Ohio State, loss loss, loss, loss,

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Speaker 2: every year until the last two years, and you look

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Speaker 2: at James Franklin, he's what one in eight against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: So he's trying to channel his inner Harba here and

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Speaker 2: correct that because this is a hurdle that Penn State

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Another thing that I would like to point out

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Speaker 6: faced a better defense, at least one better defense than

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Speaker 6: Penn State has. Coal m Accord under pressure has a

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Speaker 6: has a horrible grade when he's facing pressure. He's close

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Speaker 6: to the bottom of the list in power among Power

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Speaker 2: So that's that's part of.

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Speaker 6: This conversation too, is you can't control what you what

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Speaker 6: that's a part of the puzzle for Ohio State is

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Speaker 6: how do we get this guy real game reps that

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Speaker 6: replicates what I was talking about, Getting hit, getting pressured,

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Speaker 7: So fun story. I was at the game in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 3: State's offensive line has not played as well as they

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Speaker 7: And Manny, die this is I think.

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Speaker 3: The two most experienced coordinators and the best coaches in

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Speaker 3: They need some kind of a play to get their

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Speaker 7: Which one will set the tone?

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Speaker 3: I think Penn State has more talent on defense, but

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Speaker 6: It could be your alma mater too. You could take

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Speaker 7: Okay, so do you notice that song it's playing by

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Speaker 2: Peak behind the curtain over here. He's a Nitney Lion

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Speaker 2: grads trying to bribe our technical producer, Chris. Yeah, not

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not even go not even trying to

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Speaker 4: Chris Purfett.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a Nitney Lion playlist on Spotify. Awesome.

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Speaker 3: I'll listen to it all day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jared like, hey, ten bucks a song throughout

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Speaker 3: It's like a jukebox. Just keep putting money in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is good. This is really good letter.

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Speaker 3: It's a good idea, right.

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Speaker 7: This is worth the money. This is worth the money, Bud.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this feels right?

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Speaker 7: Does now?

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Speaker 2: What did they say right there?

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Speaker 3: They don't ghost stay go see I know all the

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Speaker 6: Yea, Honestly, it's fun to hear things like this because

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Speaker 3: Did you ever see you guys did the Alma mater

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Speaker 2: Tell you what one of my favorite moments of the

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Speaker 6: No, No, it was on Instagram, right was a.

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Speaker 3: you know, two touchdown cliff before we get the official

438
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Speaker 3: news whenever we get it over the next few hours.

439
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Speaker 3: And my guess is, if Riley Leonard doesn't play, I

440
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Speaker 3: don't think he's going to play, then you're gonna see

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Speaker 3: this move to north of two touchdowns. I bet Florida

442
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Speaker 3: State minus fourteen earlier this week. I felt like it

443
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Speaker 3: was a number that wasn't going to be on the

444
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Speaker 3: wrong side of the market because I don't think Riley

445
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Speaker 3: Leonard is gonna play, And I think this closes north

446
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Speaker 3: of that. It was Florida State owns this matchup, but

447
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: twenty one to zero against Duke all time, forty plus

448
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: and eighteen of the last twenty one meetings, like this

449
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: is a matchup that they historically dominate.

450
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Speaker 7: And I really like the familiarity with the coaching staff.

451
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Speaker 3: So Mike Norvell, the head coach of Florida State, hired

452
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Speaker 3: Kevin Johns, the current offensive coordinator at Duke, when they

453
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 3: worked at Memphis together. They know each other very well.

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Speaker 3: How does that translate to this game? My guess is

455
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Speaker 3: Florida State's defense is going to have a step even

456
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Speaker 3: faster than usual against this Duke offense. And even if

457
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Speaker 3: they if they do have Riley Leonard out there, I

458
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Speaker 3: still think Florida State's defense has the edge. Florida State's defense,

459
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Speaker 3: we don't talk about it a lot. When that defensive

460
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Speaker 3: line gets going, they are legit. The problem is they've

461
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Speaker 3: only really played two games all year. They played Florida

462
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Speaker 3: State and they played Clemson, and they played those two

463
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Speaker 3: games really tough, and they put their tough guys out

464
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Speaker 3: there for most of that game the rest of the game.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of rotational people the rest of

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Speaker 3: the games this season against the BCS and the you know,

467
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Speaker 3: the the other you know, bad teams that have played

468
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Speaker 3: Florist State this year. So I think we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: their best people tonight, and I think we're gonna see

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Speaker 3: it really inspired after iland Forest State wins this game

471
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Speaker 3: pretty handling.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of tough where you say, hey, what's our

473
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Speaker 2: record historically against Florida State. We're oh and twenty one.

474
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Speaker 2: Do we have a Riley Leonard tonight? Probably not. You

475
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Speaker 2: just start there that It doesn't just make me spring

476
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Speaker 2: out of bed as a Jukie fan, like, all right,

477
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Speaker 2: here we come, baby, let's do this. But hey, man,

478
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 2: it's college football. Crazier things have happened. But man, they

479
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: are gonna have to do the equivalent of a hockey

480
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Speaker 2: goalie standing on their heads. That defense gonna have to

481
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Speaker 2: be lights freaking out for the Dukies to keep it

482
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Speaker 2: close and make it a fourth quarter game. All right,

483
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Speaker 2: somebody who stands on his head actually giving sports updates.

484
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this a little bit

485
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Speaker 2: of a trivia information that would be Isaac Loehenkrauz, trust

486
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Speaker 2: me right now doing a handstand. Multi talented. He's got

487
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Speaker 2: the latest. What's going on?

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Speaker 8: I low all the blood is rushing towards my had.

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Speaker 2: I feel.

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Speaker 4: He's down. Oh my god, we can fill do an update.

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Speaker 2: Just kidding.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm completely fine. You know who's not fine? You

493
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Speaker 8: know who's not fine? Folks as fans of the Texas Rangers,

494
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Speaker 8: because in Game five of the American League Championship Series

495
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Speaker 8: on Friday, they led the Houston Ashers four to two.

496
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Speaker 8: Nobody out top of the ninth inning, but two on

497
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Speaker 8: and Jose all two of A launched a three run

498
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Speaker 8: home run for a five to four wins of The

499
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Speaker 8: Astros lead the series three games to two. One went

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Speaker 8: away from their third consecutive American League pennant. In Game

501
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Speaker 8: four the National League Championship Series Friday night, the Arizona

502
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Speaker 8: Diamondbacks rallied from a five to two deficit in the

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Speaker 8: bottom of the seventh inning to beat the Philadelphia Phillies

504
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Speaker 8: six to five to tie that series at two games apiece.

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Speaker 8: In the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steelers this morning placed tight

506
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Speaker 8: end pat Freyermuth on injured reserve because of a hamstring

507
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Speaker 8: injury and activated receiver at Dionae Johnson from injured reserve

508
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Speaker 8: and a scary story here. TMZ reports that Los Angeles

509
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 8: Rams receiver DeMarcus Robinson is okay after he was robbed

510
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Speaker 8: at gunpoint early Friday morning of over one hundred thousand

511
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Speaker 8: dollars worth of jewelry outside of a Los Angeles area hotel.

512
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Speaker 8: Police are investigating. No one as of yet been arrested. Finally, fellas,

513
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Speaker 8: you remember the college football game that was played at

514
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Speaker 8: Sofi Stadium in Englewood that was known as the Jimmy

515
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Speaker 8: Kimmel LA Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You remember that? Yeah?

517
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Speaker 1: All right?

518
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: Well, the La Times reports.

519
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Speaker 8: That that bowl game will now be known as the

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Speaker 8: La Bowl, hosted by Gronk, as in former NFL tight

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Speaker 8: end Rob Gronkowski. The game will continue to fit a

522
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Speaker 8: Pack twelve team against the first place team from the

523
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Speaker 8: Mountain West. A bowl organizer told The Times the deal

524
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Speaker 8: was signed at a fancy restaurant in West Hollywood, where

525
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Speaker 8: Ronkowski became the first person that the restaurant ever allowed

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Speaker 8: to wear shorts. No dress code when Gronk is involved.

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Speaker 2: So the bo's getting wild tonight, That's what I'm talking about, Baby.

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Speaker 8: It will now be the La Bowl hosted by Gronk.

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Speaker 8: Getting wild back to you guys.

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Speaker 2: I love that it's a fiesta now yeah, yo, soy fiesta.

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Speaker 2: That's one of Gronk's famous drops right there.

532
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Speaker 6: And I cannot wait to see, like what okay? So

533
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 6: for anybody, for the uninitiated, when you are a bowl team,

534
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 6: you're invited to events along the way. You know the

535
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Speaker 6: Rose Bowl famously, you have the Lowry's State Challenge where

536
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Speaker 6: you sit down. When we were in it, Penn State

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Speaker 6: against USC back in you know, January first, two thousand

538
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 6: and nine, that Rose Bowl. I think Penn State won

539
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Speaker 6: the State Challenge. We lost the game, of course.

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Speaker 7: Lost the game. I had money on that game too.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of there's a lot of those those

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Speaker 6: those events that you have to go to. I remember

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 6: when we were in the Almo Bowle, you took a

544
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Speaker 6: boat ride down the river that passes through like you know,

545
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Speaker 6: there's all these different things. I'm so curious, what, Gronk,

546
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Speaker 6: what do you do with the Gronk Bowl like event?

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Speaker 3: You hang out with Gronk?

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Speaker 2: I hope so, I think, right, you gotta have glow sticks,

549
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: some sort of spiking contest theme. Yeah, definitely have to

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Speaker 2: have that. Hey, let's do this right here on on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios Camp Down to Kickoff, presented by BEDMGM.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive in.

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Speaker 3: Count.

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00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so we uh. One of the group texts we

555
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: got this week, it wasn't just bribing Christopher Fett to play.

556
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: That was niitney lyon music. There was a Jared saying, hey,

557
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: this this Heisman market here I got thought. So, Michael

558
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Penicks Junior, the Washington quarterback, he is the clear favorite

559
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: right now at minus one forty five. Next in line,

560
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: you've got Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy and Oklahoma quarterback Dylan

561
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: Gabriel at ten to one. So it's less than even

562
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: money for Michael Penick Junior next in line ten to one,

563
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: So Pennick Junior has a hugely You're not a fan

564
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: of this in terms of betting on Penick Junior though, Hun.

565
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: Jerrett, No, I think we should just rename this award

566
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Speaker 3: the best quarterback in the Pac twelve this year. I

567
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: think that's who deserves Dylan Eisman Trophy, and I think

568
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: Pennix right now is that guy. But the odds are

569
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: telling us that it's a sure thing almost. I mean,

570
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: the odds are saying that it's over almost a sixty

571
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: percent chance that Penix's gonna win the Award, and I

572
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: don't feel that confident that Washington's gonna run the table.

573
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they got some tough games, love, and I

574
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: actually think the guy that just beat him is the

575
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: best bet in this market because if you look at

576
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: Oregon's schedule down the stretch, they can run the table.

577
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: And if they do run the table, they will be

578
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: back in the PAC twelve Championship game. And if it

579
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: is Oregon and Washington in the PAC twelve Championship Game

580
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: and Oregon wins the second return matchup, bo Nicks is

581
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: gonna win the Heisman because Oregon's gonna go or Oregon

582
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: will win the PAC twelve. So I think that's how

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Speaker 3: I look at this market now. I don't discount what

584
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Pennix has done, guys, but the odds are telling us

585
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Speaker 3: that he's the Heisman, and I'm just we're halfway through

586
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Speaker 3: the year. I think there's a lot of runway left here.

587
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I really I don't know if there's value.

588
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 6: I'm still hung up on Jordan Travis, my preseason pick

589
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 6: but I just don't think he has the schedule that

590
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 6: can win him a Heisman. Unfortunately, for the Seminoles, outside

591
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 6: of this week where they'll be facing a duke team

592
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 6: who may or may not have their starting quarter back

593
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: in the game, it's their last game of any note

594
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 6: or any rank. You know, they finish out the season

595
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 6: with two big rivalry games against Florida and Miami. Miami

596
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 6: season obviously hit the skids with poor decision making at

597
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 6: the end of a football game for Mario Christobal and

598
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 6: Florida hasn't looked themselves in a long time. So yeah,

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00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 6: I just I think this is sort of one of

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00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 6: those those bets, those future bets, that doesn't feel like

601
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 6: it has a lot of value taking a long shot underdog,

602
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: because when you look at some of the underdogs that

603
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 6: you can take a long shot on, do they really

604
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Speaker 6: have a feasible route?

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Speaker 4: And the answer maybe no.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Shaduur Sanders, the Colorado quarterback, showcases how

607
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: long of a season it is. Yep, because Chadure he

608
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: had some tremendous performances and he was a trendy Heisman pick,

609
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: so much so that they're the most amount of tickets

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Speaker 2: on bet MGM up the close to the highest amount

611
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: of money. The second in line is barely behind Caleb Williams,

612
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: and he started off his odds were one twenty five

613
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: to one. They currently are two fifty to one. So

614
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: think about that. The most tickets on Shadeur Sanders, his

615
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: odds have doubled in the wrong way if you're betting

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Speaker 2: on him. So Pennix Junior has been extraordinary this year.

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Speaker 2: But to Jared's point, you look at the schedule at

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Speaker 2: usc Utah, at Oregon State, and then you get Washington

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Speaker 2: State to close it out. Those are four tricky games

620
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: in a row in conference, So if he doesn't stick

621
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Speaker 2: the dismount, it could open the door to somebody else,

622
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: And Shauduur Sanders shows how much things can change. But

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Speaker 2: right now Penix Junior's looking better than anybody else. That's

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Speaker 2: a candidate that's just subject to change going forward.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and again it's not the Penix.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't deserve to be the favorite, but he's favored

627
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: by too much because the market overreacted to what we

628
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 3: saw last week. So when you see that overreaction, your

629
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Speaker 3: first instinct should not be to buy bitcoin At sixty

630
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: thousand it should be to find another candidate that maybe

631
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: is undervalued right now, and look no further than the

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Speaker 3: guy who lost to Pennix Junior this week. And I

633
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: just think those odds are gonna come a lot tighter.

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00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: For example, let's say it is Washington and Oregon rematch

635
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve Championship game, and I think it's

636
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Speaker 3: obvious those are the two best teams in the PAC

637
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Speaker 3: twelve this year. Basically we saw on Saturday. So let's

638
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Speaker 3: just flash forward to a rematch between those teams in

639
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Speaker 3: the PAC twelve Championship game. Oregon probably is favored in

640
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: that game on a neutral So I think this is

641
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: a good bet to make right now where you're gonna

642
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: get some movement in your favor over the next few weeks,

643
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Speaker 3: and then you'll have a chance in that championship game

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00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: to come back and bet Penix Junior or just bet

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Speaker 3: Washington in the game, and then you can kind of

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Speaker 3: balance your action a little bit.

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Speaker 7: But I put a unit on bo Knicks this week

648
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Speaker 7: thirty to one to win.

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Speaker 6: I think that's smart money. You're not chasing anything there,

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Speaker 6: and I agree with the assessment. I forget which one

651
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 6: of you said, but about the PAC twelve. I think

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00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 6: you really have to sniff out when you're betting Heisman futures.

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Speaker 6: Where's the narrative this year and the narrative at the

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Speaker 6: quarterback position? There is no question it is the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 6: You can't look at any other conference and really discuss

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks outside the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 2: Hey Man fourteen to one. Drake May He's put up

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Speaker 2: a lot of numbers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, him and Travis I think, yeah, those guys has

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Speaker 3: a shot. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: North Carolina undefeated, only face one ranked team from here

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Speaker 2: on out. You know, if they have a great showing

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Speaker 2: in the ACC Championship game, maybe maybe that's.

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Speaker 3: A podium mixed penix and probably one of those ACC.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American.

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst on Brian no coming up next.

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Speaker 2: We had a little Midwest flavor for the Parlay Pladder

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Speaker 2: the finishing line. We'll see what Jared has cooked up

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Speaker 3: Last week? I thought we were home. I thought we

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Speaker 3: had it.

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Speaker 3: I thought we were gonna win two grand on that parlay.

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Speaker 3: Last week Michigan State Blue an eighteen point leading fourth

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Speaker 3: going with another not quite as as lengthy of odds.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm decreasing the riskiness of the parlay because we

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Speaker 3: gotta hit one of these. We gotta hit one this season,

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Speaker 3: and I really thought last week was it, but hopefully

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Speaker 3: it's this week.

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Speaker 7: We'll start out with.

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Speaker 3: Flarida Atlantic, my former employer, first year head coach Tom Herman,

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Speaker 3: I think is really starting to figure things out.

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Speaker 7: They've had a couple of really good performances in a row.

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Speaker 3: Go watch the game last week against Tulsa off the

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Speaker 3: buy six hundred yards of offense. I think they're starting

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Speaker 3: to figure out how to.

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Speaker 7: Move the ball effectively down in Boca Raton.

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Speaker 3: And they played a tougher schedule at Clemson, at Illinois,

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Speaker 3: and they get Utsa this week. Who second game or

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Speaker 3: third game back excuse me for Frank Harris the quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and this will be the toughest defense he's faced in

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Speaker 3: this return. Last two weeks against UAD and Temple not

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Speaker 3: a big test. I think they'll be tested today. FAU

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Speaker 3: a slight money line underdog. We will take them the

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Speaker 3: owls in the first leg. We'll go with Baylor on

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Speaker 3: the money line. This is a new Eastern start, so

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Speaker 3: get this in now. And we're fading Cincinnati. We're fading

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Speaker 3: all of the Big twelve teams that are new to

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Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. Cincinnati, USF, Houston and byu UCF excuse me,

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Speaker 3: are two and two and ten in Big Twelve plays

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Speaker 3: so far. And Cincinnati last week they were in the

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Speaker 3: parlay they lost to Iowa State. They're not a physical

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Speaker 3: enough team. I think to hang with Baylor coming off

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Speaker 3: the by getting healthy. I trust Dave Randa to get

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Speaker 3: this team right. Down the stretch. We'll take Baylor as

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Speaker 3: a short money line dog at Cincinnati. And finally, this

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Speaker 3: game is basically a pick them, but we get Yukon

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Speaker 3: at an evan odds flip, so it's still technically a

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Speaker 3: money line underdog here. But Yukon at home today against

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Speaker 3: USF Huskies also off the by after winning their first

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Speaker 3: game of the season at Rice two weeks ago. The

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Speaker 3: offense got rolling Taekwan Robson's former Penn State kids starting

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Speaker 3: to find a little bit of consistency there under center,

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Speaker 3: and USP's just been blasted fifty six points back to

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Speaker 3: back weeks against UAB and FAU defense trending down, cold,

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Speaker 3: rainy game in stores, don't light USF going up north.

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Speaker 3: So we'll take FAU, Yukon and Baylor on the money line.

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Speaker 3: This pays out about ten to one if you're parlaying together.

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Speaker 2: Ten to one, ten to one. Are you feeling okay, Jed.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a lot.

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Speaker 7: It's more mild than usual.

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Speaker 3: More no. I'm usually a spicy.

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Speaker 7: Sauce a guy in the morning. Now it's a little

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Speaker 7: more mild.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna say, yeah, these these used to be pekante, Yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 6: it's still good though.

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Speaker 2: I like where your head's at it is. It's crazy, man,

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Speaker 2: you talk about these four new schools in the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve collectively two and ten. Oh yeah, that is a

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Speaker 2: root awakening. When you go to a new conference, you

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Speaker 2: start getting your teeth kicked in. It's also a route awakening.

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Speaker 2: If another team joins your conference and is doing pretty well,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh gosh, Yeah, it's funny how it works

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Speaker 2: both ways. Right there, Which leg do you feel most

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Speaker 2: confident about here, Jared, that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Yukon's had the most movement. So Yukon opened at three

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Speaker 3: and now it's down to plus one. Baylor is kind

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Speaker 3: of hovering between three and a half and three. I

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Speaker 3: bet Baylor plus three and a half as well, and

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Speaker 3: I think it closes at three. And Fau has kind

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Speaker 3: of been hovering at three all week. I think Fau

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Speaker 3: at Home. I know for Clark's a star, but I

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Speaker 3: think Fau at Home.

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Speaker 7: Gets it done today. I like that spot for Tom Hermon.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, it was a disaster last week,

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Speaker 2: but how about this week?

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Speaker 2: Uh yes, what is going on? Getting set for a

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Speaker 2: huge day of college football action. Highlighted top ten matchup

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Speaker 2: as the Buckeyes host Penn State. Little Penn State money

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Speaker 2: coming in this morning. It's down to four. Ohio State

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Speaker 2: favored by four at some shops, some shops, not every shop,

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Speaker 2: some shops, so some Nitney Lyons money coming in. I

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Speaker 2: wonder how much USC money we'll see tonight. So this

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Speaker 2: is a night game. This is eight pm Eastern time

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Speaker 2: on Fox USC hosting Utah. So a disaster last week

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Speaker 2: for the Trojans. Just got crushed by Notre Dame, losing

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Speaker 2: by four touchdowns, and they're favored by seven tonight against Utah.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy what Utah has done without Cam Rising, their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Haven't had them all year. And they had a safety

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Speaker 2: playing running back last week against Cal They're like, hey, hey, safety,

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Speaker 2: go back there and rush for a buck fifty eight

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Speaker 2: and two scores. Huh how does that sound? Yeah? Sos

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Speaker 2: they how they rebound terrible performance against Notre Dame. They

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Speaker 2: could not protect Caleb Williams. The defense actually played pretty

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Speaker 2: well against Notre Dame, it was just the offense was

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Speaker 2: a wreck. Got to see what they're able to do

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Speaker 2: against Utah, who's known for their defense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, this Uh unfortunately for US defense. This is

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Speaker 6: a much different year than last year for Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 6: Look at them under pressure again. This is where the

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Speaker 6: cream rises to the in all levels of football, whether

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Speaker 6: you're looking at high school, whether you're looking at college,

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Speaker 6: whether you're looking at professional football. Which quarterbacks can handle pressure.

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Speaker 6: Last year, Caleb Williams won the Heisman because when he

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Speaker 6: was pressured, he was fantastic. He was first in the nation.

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Speaker 6: He was incredible when he was pressured. This year he's

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Speaker 6: almost in last place. He has two big time throws.

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Speaker 6: This is through the lens of Pro Football Focus. He

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Speaker 6: has two big time throws compared to thirteen turnover worthy

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Speaker 6: plays when under pressure this season. In twenty two, he

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Speaker 6: had fourteen big time throws to just four turnover worthy

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Speaker 6: throws when playing under pressure. He's a different guy this year.

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Speaker 6: He's trying to force things when he's pressured. He's not

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Speaker 6: getting rid of the ball. He's heaving the ball down field.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 6: I think he's feeling the weight of the world on

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Speaker 6: his shoulders. He feels like he's the only reason, and

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Speaker 6: he's kind of right that he has a chance to win,

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Speaker 6: and he's playing like that. He has to get outside

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Speaker 6: of that mentality that he needs to make the play

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Speaker 6: to win the game on every single play, and he

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Speaker 6: needs to play within the confines and the construction of

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Speaker 6: the offense. I understand those viral moments where he's extending

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Speaker 6: the play and he's outside the pocket and he's throwing

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Speaker 6: back across his body to an open receiver who scores

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Speaker 6: after taking two steps, and people are like, my god,

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Speaker 6: he's a magician. How does he do it? The painted nails?

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Speaker 6: But when you throw back across your body, oftentimes bad

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Speaker 6: things happen. And we're seeing those bad things rear their

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Speaker 6: head a lot more this year than they did last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a very different year for Caleb. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what you're seeing rich or Brian, but I'm

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Speaker 3: seeing a lot of lazy throws, back foot, off re

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Speaker 3: off balance, not reading the right key, does things that

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Speaker 3: are simple fundamentals and in.

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Speaker 7: The NFL that ain't gonna fly.

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Speaker 3: Like, you can't be Patrick Mahomes on every play, like

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Speaker 3: you've got to play within the offense. And here was

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Speaker 3: the quote from Lincoln Riley this week, and I think

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Speaker 3: this quote was a veiled shot at Caleb Williams. Have

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Speaker 3: to get back to playing eleven man ball, not one

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Speaker 3: man ball, eleven man ball, and I think that is

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Speaker 3: going to be important this week because you're facing a

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Speaker 3: Utah team that is kind of playing in a phone boot, right,

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Speaker 3: And this kind of sums up how Utah season has went.

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Speaker 3: The first play of the season against Florida Money Parks

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Speaker 3: a seventy yard touchdown catch the first.

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Speaker 7: Play of the season.

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Speaker 3: Since that play, Money Parks has had less than one

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Speaker 3: hundred yards in five games. It just there hasn't been

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Speaker 3: a lot of explosion for this Utah offense. Cameron Rising

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Speaker 3: is not going to play the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: I think that's blatantly obvious to everyone at this point,

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Speaker 3: and I think it makes.

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Speaker 7: Sense for him and his future.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't really make sense for Utah as a football team

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Speaker 3: their goals, but for Cam it makes sense. See on

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00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: Vaki Man ten and a half your hearts for Carrie

868
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: last week.

869
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 7: Two touchdowns, a bit of a change up.

870
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: More of a bruiser than what we're usually seeing in

871
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Utah's backfield. My guess is that number gets cut dramatically

872
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: in half or even less this week because the dude's

873
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: still playing safety like he's basically a Travis Hunter out

874
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: there right now, playing both ways, and that's just not sustainable,

875
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: I think for Utah's offense, and Richie hit the nail

876
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 3: on the head with Caleb Williams and the turnover worthy plays.

877
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I saw too when I was analyzing

878
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: his numbers last year. All thirteen of his turnover worthy

879
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: plays this season have come under pressure. Last year, he

880
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 3: committed only eleven turnover worthy plays in the whole season,

881
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: and four of the eleven came under pressure. So the

882
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: pressure is really aggravating the USC offense. You talk and

883
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: get pressure, But I have a feeling that this is

884
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: going to be a good performance across the board from

885
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: USC this week. The game script is key here too,

886
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: right guys. If USC jumps out to a lead, how

887
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: does you tell match what kind of offense do they

888
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: have to match? A fourteen or a seventeen point lead?

889
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: So I think this could be a good get right

890
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: spot for the Trojans today.

891
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: It could be. And that's the thing. If you go

892
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: back to Caleb Williams. The off structure type stuff. I

893
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: think of it like drinking. You know, if you want

894
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: to do some creative extend to play, do some wild stuff.

895
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: I think that it makes sense to be a social drinker,

896
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: maybe just a little buzzed. You don't want to be comatosed, right, Like, no,

897
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: doing too many things off script and unstructured. And that's

898
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: the thing with Caleb. I think he's the most creative

899
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: quarterback in college football by far. And while that's a strength,

900
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: if he overdes it, it becomes a weakness. And so

901
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 2: Mahomes is the best example. Mahomes does some stuff off

902
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: script and is incredibly creative and does stuff no other

903
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: quarterback can do. But he does a lot of on

904
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: script stuff. He does a lot of structured stuff. And

905
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: you gotta see more of that from Caleb Williams because

906
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: it can't just be hey, you know, run to the

907
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: telephone pole and if you're not open, just kind of

908
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: run around, kind of mimic which direction I run in,

909
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: I might zig back the other way, so kind of

910
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: be ready for just too it's too sand lot. Yeah,

911
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: and like Jared said, that's definitely not gonna work in

912
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: the NFL, and he's having a hard time in college.

913
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to overreact to one awful performance against

914
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, but it still holds true even beyond last

915
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: week's performance. Is there needs to be more structure, not

916
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Still be creative, Still razzle, dazzle, do

917
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: all that crazy stuff. It just can't be as much

918
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: as it is right now because it's working against USC.

919
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 6: Playing quarterback is similar to playing the game horse Haw's.

920
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 6: Everybody played that on a basketball court or in the driveway, right,

921
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 6: you know, hors Right, you shoot, you score. Somebody has

922
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 6: to match it. If they miss, they get a letter.

923
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 6: Whoever spells horse first loses. Well, it's usually the guys

924
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: who can sit at the free throw line or make

925
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 6: a jumper from twenty feet who win.

926
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Horse.

927
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 6: It's the guy who's like all right, guys off the roof,

928
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 6: over the backboard, right off the rim, and then in

929
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 6: this time, those are the guys who lose. They get

930
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 6: bounced immediately. Not every shot needs to be a trick shot.

931
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 6: Sometimes you just have to hit the mid range jumper

932
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 6: consistently in order to win the game. So if I

933
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 6: am Lincoln Riley talking to my quarterback Caleb Williams. I'm saying, hey, listen,

934
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 6: we're not going off the roof. We're not banking it

935
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: off of the backboard and then doing the under the

936
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: legs layup. We're just going to play football this week

937
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: and we're gonna try not to get five letters.

938
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: Thanks. Yeah.

939
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: Another thing too, is look at Utah schedule and go

940
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: look at the quarterbacks and the passing games they faced.

941
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: Florida non existent, Baylor not really existent data and at

942
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: Blake Shapen in that game weaber State throw that game away.

943
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: UCLA freshman quarterback Dante more not a great spot in

944
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City, obvious bad passing game at Oregon State

945
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: Silas Bolden at one hundred yards receiving in that game.

946
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: For Oregon State, I would say us, he's got like

947
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: seventeen Silas Boldens on their roster, and then Cal last

948
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 3: week it didn't really face much of a passing offense.

949
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: This is by far the best quarterback, the best offense

950
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: Utah has faced this year, and it's not even close.

951
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't even put any of those offenses even

952
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: in the realm Oregon State maybe with the running game,

953
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 3: but you want to talk about pressure on a secondary

954
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams forces you to cover for like ten seconds,

955
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: and I just don't.

956
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 7: Know if Utah is going to be able to hold

957
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 7: up today. So you got nice weather.

958
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what the weather is in La. I'm

959
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: assuming it's like what it is here in Vegas, which

960
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: is nice, flowery weather at the Rose Bowl today. Utah

961
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 3: facing a quarterback that is light years ahead of what

962
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: they faced all year. This is going to be a

963
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: rude awakening if and again, the game script is key here.

964
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: If you want to bet Utah in the first half,

965
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: I get it. But if USC gets out to a

966
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: lead here, I just don't see how Utah can can

967
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: can hold Serve. So I think at seven this is

968
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: a fair bet for the Trojans today.

969
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the crazy thing, Jared, is if USC

970
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: gets off to a decent lead, you don't only have

971
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: to hold SERF. You got to break the USC right

972
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 2: like when USC has the ball and when they're serving,

973
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: you got to find a way to stop them. And

974
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: that's not the easiest thing. It's not just playing catchup

975
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: and scoring like Utah's offense. It's well, you got to

976
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: stop USC's offense, which is probably flowing at that point

977
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: as well, so it becomes a double challenge. And I'm

978
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: just curious how USC rebounds. I really am. And we've

979
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: seen this before. We've seen some teams. Notre Dame's a

980
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: decent example, right their opponent last week, Notre Dame had

981
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: a really disappointing game on the road against Louisville, and

982
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: then they came back and they smacked around USC by

983
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: four touchdowns. So can USC pull a Notre Dame right

984
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: this week because they got smacked around last week?

985
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

986
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 6: I look at Utah and I see a team that

987
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 6: has all the capabilities that Notre Dame has to win

988
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 6: this football game. From this standpoint where you really nervous

989
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 6: about Notre Dame's offense entering that matchup, like really overpowering

990
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 6: USC's offense. No, you were talking about if you were

991
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 6: if you're angling toward or thinking Notre Dame had a

992
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 6: chance to win that game about their defense. And I

993
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 6: feel similarly to this Utah defense. They have a great

994
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 6: pass rush up front. They've got an edge guy and

995
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 6: by the name of Jonah Elis, who's got nine sacks

996
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 6: on the season. They win against one on one pass

997
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 6: blocking a bunch. I mean, they've got a fierce group

998
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 6: that USC has to contend with. Now, going back to

999
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 6: what we're just talking about with Caleb Williams, he's got

1000
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 6: to try to play more point.

1001
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 4: Guard than you know. And one mixtape, you know, I mean.

1002
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: One, yeah, why chop it?

1003
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: I love.

1004
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 6: The and one mixtape. But I mean it's but it's true.

1005
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 6: I mean, look, you gotta just go out there and

1006
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 6: be boring, just be a facilitator for one game, and

1007
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 6: I think and and frankly, he'll learn a lot from

1008
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 6: that experience because people will still be shouting your names

1009
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 6: from the rooftops if you're if you're throwing for three

1010
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns and it looks

1011
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 6: boring because like you guys just both alluded to with

1012
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 6: the Patrick Mahomes comparisons, Patrick Mahomes, Yes, he can make

1013
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 6: a five yard throw with his left hand running toward

1014
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 6: the sideline and it'll make Sports Center. But guess what

1015
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 6: those other twenty nine throws look like. They look like

1016
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 6: routine throws. So just remember that most of quarterback play

1017
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 6: is extremely boring. And you're a really good quarterback and

1018
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 6: you're gonna be just fine. But he's got to rein

1019
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 6: it in and Utah has to replicate what Notre Dame did.

1020
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 4: So, yeah, this.

1021
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: Feels like a fair spread.

1022
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 6: But you could make an argument for the US too,

1023
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 6: because their pass rush is fierce.

1024
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: Well, here's the here's the reason why I think they'll

1025
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: be margin in this game. Utah played USC twice last year. Brian,

1026
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: we watched one of the games. Yeah, that's right at

1027
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 3: the USC.

1028
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the hammy, he had the hamm.

1029
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, this feels like a game where if USC. Now,

1030
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: maybe the game script doesn't work out this way, maybe

1031
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams makes a mistake early, the pressure, the spotlight,

1032
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: he's starting to feel himself a little bit, and he's

1033
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: AH and he forces it and he makes some bad plays.

1034
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: But let's say it doesn't start that way. Let's say

1035
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: it starts average for both teams, and then later in

1036
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: the game USC is starting to lean on Utah a

1037
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: little bit and you can tell that they just don't

1038
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: have enough offense to keep up. Do you think they're

1039
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: gonna be on that sideline thinking themselves, Yeah, let's let's

1040
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 3: go easy on the Utes today. No, this is going

1041
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: to be a kill shot because of what happened lat year.

1042
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 3: They mae him twice last year, so and the first

1043
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: game was a thriller in Salt Lake City, back and forth,

1044
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: Utah needed a two point conversion late to win.

1045
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I think this game, if USC can.

1046
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: Create margin in this game, if their offense is back

1047
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: in sync today, and if their defense is holding a

1048
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: very pedestrian Utah offense to what we've seen this year,

1049
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: which is a very average output, I don't think USC

1050
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: is gonna hold back and off the loss off a

1051
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: blowout loss even makes it more okay. I think margin

1052
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: makes more sense to me in this game than back

1053
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: and forth. Utah keeps it close and then maybe USC

1054
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: wins it late. If the Trojans can create some distance here,

1055
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: they're gonna step on the huge throats.

1056
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: By the way super fast. It's amazing how quickly things

1057
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: changing college football. Think about last year at Utah, cam

1058
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: Rising playing he had the winning score, and also Dalton Kincaid,

1059
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: who went freaking crazy in that game, who's now with

1060
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. It's amazing that Utah's offense. I don't

1061
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: think they're gonna resemble that game in Utah last year,

1062
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: even against the USC's defense. But that's just the way

1063
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,680
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1074
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Speaker 2: very tasty. We've got Jared Smith, FSR, betting analyst. I

1075
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1076
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1077
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1078
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big Yeah it is, yeah, absolutely, I'm

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Speaker 1: Follow the money, real good money.

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00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: We are following the money and the advice of one

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00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,800
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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: morning to you, Seamus. Let's dive right on in here.

1102
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: Number seven Penn State against number three, Ohio State. What's

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: the which side is the money on? As we ramp

1104
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: up toward kickoff, and I don't know, you have a

1105
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: gut feeling about how this game might play out there?

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00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 10: Hey guys, gonna be back. Yeah, A lot of money

1107
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 10: coming in obviously on this game is the biggest game.

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: Of the weekend.

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 10: A lot of coming in, A lot more money coming

1110
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 10: in on a hot skin of the money line, probably

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00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 10: in a lot of parlays were looking at. But on

1112
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 10: the spread four and a half four. I mean, it

1113
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 10: took a little bit of sharp money today to move

1114
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 10: this from Ohio State minus four and a half to

1115
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 10: minus four. But it's pretty dead even on the spreads.

1116
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 10: Lots of different opinions on who's going to cover this one,

1117
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 10: and in terms of how I think the game is

1118
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 10: going to pay, I think it's gonna be a low

1119
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 10: scoring affair. It's two really really good defenses. I'm not

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 10: really sold on the Ohio States offense the past few

1121
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 10: weeks in Drew Aller hasn't been spectacular, anything notable in

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00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 10: my opinion this year, So I could see like a

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00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 10: low scoring slug fest here.

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Speaker 3: Seamus. It's interesting when we look at a full game

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: total of forty five and a half, and then you

1126
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: see the first half at twenty one and a half.

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00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: And I'm no math major, but that's less than half

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Speaker 3: of what the first half total is. When you see that,

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: it's obvious that the money is on the first half

1130
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: under right.

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00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely more so in this game than others. Yeah,

1132
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 10: I mean, just the way these two teams have started

1133
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 10: this year, That's what the money's been telling us this week,

1134
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 10: is that the first half is definitely going to be

1135
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 10: a tight affair.

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00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 6: Air Force heading on the road to Annapolis facing Navy.

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: How well do these legs of.

1138
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 6: The Commander in Chief trophy games Doe at the window?

1139
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 6: Does this force a lot of handle?

1140
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: Air Force?

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 6: By the way, favored by ten I'm just curious, are

1142
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 6: people interested in these games in terms of betting stakes

1143
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 6: or is this just more the majesty of the matchup.

1144
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 10: Of any military game that we offer. These Service Academy

1145
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 10: exclusive games definitely attract the most handled for each of

1146
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 10: the three schools, and for most of the reason is

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 10: everybody wants to bet the under. I mean, these all

1148
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 10: these go under. We opened this thirty four and a half,

1149
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 10: took some pros and Joe's money down to thirty three

1150
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 10: and a half. But literally, just now we've got some

1151
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 10: sharp money to push back to a flat thirty four.

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01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 10: So we'll see and it's pretty dead even split as

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01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 10: well and over under thirty three and a half.

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Speaker 2: Wow, how about I love giving you a blank canvas

1155
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: over here, Seamus. You know, instead of asking about one

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: particular game, what is the matchup or the line combination

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Speaker 2: of both that you find to be the most interesting.

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Speaker 10: While I was looking at today, just seeing a chick

1159
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 10: in the early slate, see with to what we're gonna

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Speaker 10: end up meeting at nude, everyone is spending Oklahoma today.

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 10: That right now looks like our biggest need for at

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01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 10: least for the early slate if we're any You see

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01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 10: FLUS seventeen and a half pretty big. The summer feels

1164
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 10: a little big for a team like UCF. But Oklahoma

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01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 10: coming off ofok By, I think a lot of people

1166
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 10: seem maybe they're sold on the Sooners after that big

1167
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 10: win over Texas. But everyone is spending Oklahoma today.

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01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because that that was one that

1169
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: popped up on my sheet. But the reason that I

1170
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: stayed off at Seamus, is because I don't trust these

1171
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: non Big twelve teams, teams you know, UCF BYU and

1172
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: Cincinnati on fading again today against the big boys in

1173
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: the Big twelve, because they've been pushed around so far.

1174
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: But maybe that number is big enough for the Golden Knights,

1175
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 3: not the Golden Knights, even though they wear gold. The

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 3: Golden Knights are here in town. All right, let's let's

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01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 3: move on to one of the bigger games of the day.

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: I kind of like Bama in this spot today. I

1179
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: think at home against this Joe Milton led Tennessee offense,

1180
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: which does not look like the offense of last year.

1181
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 7: It's a revenge game for Bama.

1182
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 3: They got I mean that game last year at Rocky

1183
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: Top was a thriller, and I think they're going to

1184
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 3: get some back this in this spot.

1185
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 7: What's the money saying with Bama and Tennessee.

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01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 10: Today, Lots of Bama money this week. We did open

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01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 10: this at nine and a half, It did get short

1188
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 10: money moved it down at eight and a half. But

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Speaker 10: right now we're gonna need the balls, which is a

1190
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 10: far cry from last year where Kinna See winning that

1191
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 10: game out right against him was one of our worst

1192
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 10: results of the season last season, Wow, what are.

1193
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Speaker 4: The hardest games to handicap in your opinion? You know?

1194
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 4: Is it? Is it?

1195
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 6: Like? I know that you like to feast on FCS

1196
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 6: matchups against Power five programs, But I mean when, when

1197
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 6: when Vegas or anybody who's involved in this needs to

1198
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 6: put a number on the game. What's the most challenging

1199
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 6: type of matchup to put a number on.

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01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 10: It's gotta be some of the lower Group of five games,

1201
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 10: So like matching really tough. Literally anything happens in those games,

1202
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 10: even the we're starting to see in the Conference USA

1203
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 10: mid week games. It's uh, those are definitely the hardest ones.

1204
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: So where are you going this week? Are you going Maction?

1205
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: Are you going Sunbelt? You going FCS? What's to play

1206
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Speaker 2: for you? Seamus?

1207
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Speaker 10: We had a huge, huge result last week with the

1208
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 10: marish Red Boxes, so I got it sick with the

1209
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 10: home dogs in the FCS. Sacred Heart is playing their

1210
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 10: third straight road game, one of the big Sacred Hearts,

1211
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 10: third straight road game. They've lost five straight stone Hills

1212
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 10: at home. Give me the stone Hill Skyhawks on the

1213
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 10: money line around one and a half. There's a rogue

1214
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 10: three out there. You can somehow find at in far

1215
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 10: away places. But yeah, these lines usually don't go up

1216
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 10: until like a couple hours, maybe two and a half

1217
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 10: hours before kickoffs, so they have to wait for a

1218
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 10: line to come up with whatever book you're betting on.

1219
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 10: So when that comes up, we're taking the Skyhawks money line.

1220
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 4: Wow.

1221
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: I just have to ask, what is it about these

1222
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: lower tiered games that's your specialty? You know what I mean? Like,

1223
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: if you have a high success rate with these random games,

1224
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: how does that happen? Seamus?

1225
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 10: Well, I usually pick a few games that like stand

1226
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 10: out and like this one, like two you know, worst

1227
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 10: games in the FCS. There's not a lot of information

1228
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 10: going right around about I don't think a single book

1229
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 10: maker can tell you three players on either.

1230
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: No shot a little bit.

1231
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't eve think the coaches can some weeks.

1232
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 10: And the other thing that you're leaving out is you

1233
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 10: have to be extremely lucky.

1234
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, hey man, you got that box checked for the

1235
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: most part.

1236
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: Better to be lucky than good is what.

1237
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: I always absolutely Well, hey, Seamus, hope you enjoy all

1238
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: the ball today. Man, thanks for the time. We'll catch

1239
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: you soon.

1240
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 10: Thanks guys.

1241
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: There he is Seamous McGee.

1242
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 3: Stone Hill baby Stone Hill.

1243
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: What do you call them, the sky Foxes? Sky Foxes,

1244
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: So it's the Red Foxes. Now the sky fox we're

1245
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: going to in the Fox group. Seamus McGee, team lead

1246
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: of sports trading at BETMGM. I don't think that the

1247
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: next person can take over until they have a high

1248
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: success rate betting, like Marist or something, you know what

1249
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean. It's just like, no, no, no, you can't. You

1250
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: can't take this role. You're not ready. Just yeah, you're

1251
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 2: still in the apprenticeship phase.

1252
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 4: All right.

1253
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: We've got Isaac lowen Kron. He's no apprentice. He has

1254
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: graduated to head hon show is actually his title. He's

1255
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: got the latest fourth what's going on?

1256
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 8: I low didn't Rick Smith's play his college basketball at

1257
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 8: Merist College?

1258
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: Probably?

1259
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, seven feet four inches tall. Rick Smith's

1260
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 8: back in the day. Let's go back in the day too. Yesterday,

1261
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 8: in Game five of the American League Championship Series, the

1262
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 8: Texas Rangers holding a four to two lead over the

1263
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 8: Houston Astros top of the ninthentic but nobody out to

1264
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 8: a board and Jose Altuove at the plate.

1265
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: The Astros down four to two the pitch and al

1266
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 5: two they hits it in the air pretty deep to left.

1267
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 4: Carteris is back at.

1268
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 11: The wall leaves and it is gone. It's gone. It's gone.

1269
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 3: It's gone.

1270
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 11: Ozil twove get the Astros a five to four.

1271
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 8: Lean that will be the final of the call on

1272
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 8: KBM SO Houston leads the three games to two. In

1273
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 8: Game four the National League Championship Series on Friday night,

1274
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 8: the Arizona Diamondbacks rallied from a five to two seventh

1275
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 8: inning deficit to defeat the Philadelphia Phillies six to five,

1276
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 8: tying that series at two games a piece. In the NFL,

1277
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Steelers today plays tight end pat Freyremouth on

1278
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 8: injured reserve with a hamstring injury and activated receiver Deontay

1279
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 8: Johnson from injured reserve. Scary story TMZ reporting the Los

1280
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 8: Angeles Rams receiver DeMarcus Robinson is okay after being robbed

1281
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 8: at gunpoint early Friday morning of over one hundred thousand

1282
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 8: dollars worth of jewelry outside of a Los Angeles area hotel.

1283
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 8: And finally, an NBA preseason action on Friday night, the

1284
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 8: San Antonio Spurs what at Golden State one twenty two

1285
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 8: to one seventeen victor Wembin Yama nineteen points and five

1286
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 8: block shots in only twenty one minutes. Fellas back to you, Thank.

1287
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Speaker 2: for DC, Maryland and Virginia when crossing state borders. Simply

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Speaker 2: simply log in to your existing account instead of creating

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Speaker 2: a new one. All right, how about this taste the

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Speaker 2: SEC matchup Tennessee at Alabama, And Jared, you touched on

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01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: this when we were talking to Seamus. You think about

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01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: last year's game, just a classic, but this Tennessee offense

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01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: so far cry from what Hendon Hooker and the guys

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01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: were doing last year and a just an unbelievable finish

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: against Alabama and they win last second field goal, the

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01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: whole thing, and this year, Joe Milton in company, it's

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Speaker 2: it's not the same vibe. Alabama survived last week against Arkansas,

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: so this is sure a revenge game, but man, the

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: results for Alabama's offense and going up against the Tennessee

1304
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: defense that has been way better than last year. It's

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01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: been role reversal for Tennessee. Their offense is at nearly

1306
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: is good, their defense is way better. So it's just

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01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: a completely flip flop scenario for Tennessee from this year

1308
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: compared to last year.

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Speaker 6: When you think about the Alabama Crimson Tide, what is

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01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 6: the first and most indelible picture that hits you, like

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 6: right in the head, like right off the top of

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 6: your head, like when you think about the Alabama Crimson defense.

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Speaker 4: Defense?

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, defense, And it's anonymous with Nick Sabin. And

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01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 6: I feel like one of the things that Saban does

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01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 6: is and I know because he fell off of the

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick coaching tree, and I know how you know

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 6: the similarities, especially when you watched that mashup that ESPN

1319
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 6: did where they're both being interviewed and discussing their time

1320
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 6: as coaching together and coaching apart from one another. These defenses,

1321
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 6: these teams that Nick Saban has put out, they're fueled

1322
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 6: by two things. Obviously playing mistake free football and elite

1323
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 6: level of defense, but also revenge.

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Speaker 4: Can't I can't explain to you.

1325
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 6: How perfectly Bill Belichick worked the psychology. When I was

1326
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 6: a Patriot player, we hated the Jets. We hated the Jets.

1327
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 6: The Jets were actually pretty good when I was there.

1328
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 6: Rex Ryan had that thing hum and Mark Sanchez was

1329
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 6: a good enough quarterback. Their run game was unstoppable with

1330
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 6: that great offensive line, and Sanchez just had to do

1331
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 6: enough every game right, He had to hit on a

1332
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 6: couple of big time play action throws for the Jets

1333
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 6: to have a chance. And he was the only quarterback

1334
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 6: I think in Jets' history to go to back to

1335
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 6: back AFC Championship games.

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:57,839
Speaker 4: If I have that stat right.

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01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: You are correct.

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Speaker 6: It was. It was a great time to be a

1339
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 6: Jets fan. It was an awful time to be an

1340
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 6: AFC East Division rival of the Jets because that defense

1341
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 6: was confusing and it was revved up to play, and

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 6: the only way that Bill Belichick could make it an

1343
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 6: even matchup for us was to make us angry. And

1344
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 6: so the bulletin board material and the ability to stir

1345
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 6: things up.

1346
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 6: He did it in a way very similar to the

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 6: dry sensibilities of Nick Saban, who I think shows a

1349
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 6: little bit more personality.

1350
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 2: He did it in a way where he.

1351
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 6: Made it incumbent upon you to even the score, like

1352
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 6: it wasn't about him.

1353
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 4: He's not in the fight.

1354
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 6: This is this is an embarrassment to you, the things

1355
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 6: that are being said by the Jets players.

1356
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 4: Trust me when I tell you this.

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 6: Nick Saban was surprised and upset by what happened against

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01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 6: Tennessee last year. If there's, if there's a sure bet

1359
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 6: than this Alabama team coming out pissed and angry and

1360
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 6: Tennessee balls entering a hornet's net more so than this

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 6: hornet's nest more so than this week, and I can't

1362
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 6: name one. I think this is going to be one

1363
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 6: of those classic college football beatdowns because I think emotion

1364
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 6: is going to rule the day here.

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01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 7: I bet Bama late eight and a half earlier this week.

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,879
Speaker 3: I gave it out as our social play on Friday

1368
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 3: for the Fox Sports radio feed.

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Speaker 7: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Just first glance at Tennessee schedule, They've played one road

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 3: game all year. They played five games in Knoxville, they've

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01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: won all five. They've gone on the road once to

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01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: Gainesville and they got spanked. They got run all over

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01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: in that game. And I don't think Alabama's offense is

1375
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: very sophisticated. I think it's Jalen Milroe on some deep throws,

1376
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe, mobility, Jalen Milroe trying not to make the

1377
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 3: big mistake. It's not like Alabama is gonna drop a

1378
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: fifty burger on Tennessee because their offense is really good.

1379
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 3: I think this is what Rich alluded to. This is

1380
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 3: a physical, angry football team that frankly has been the

1381
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: narrative on Alabama's down this year, and I don't know why.

1382
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean, they're six and one, They've got everything to

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01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 3: play for in front of them. If they went out,

1384
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 3: they'll be in the SEC Championship game. But yet the

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01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: narrative on Bama's kind of down, and it's because they

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01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 3: lost their big game against Texas. It's because they haven't

1387
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 3: looked overly dominant. They're not covering spreads, and I understand

1388
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: why that would frustrate a lot of players inside that

1389
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 3: locker room, because they hear it more than any other team,

1390
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 3: because they are Alabama and now they get a chance

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01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 3: to exercise some demons. And if you want to talk

1392
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 3: about how Tennessee's offense has changed dramatically from last year,

1393
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: look no further than what Joe Milton's done throwing the

1394
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: ball deep. Last year, Hendon Hooker had one of the

1395
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: best deep ball accuracy rates in the country and off

1396
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: play action seventy percent completion rate, eighteen touchdowns, one pick.

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01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 3: This year, Joe Milton can't complete a pass twenty yards

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01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: or more down the field.

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Speaker 7: He was zero for five last week against A.

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: And M in that category, and play action just four

1401
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: for twelve off play action last week against Texas A

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: and M and their beleaguered secondary bam against Malachi Moore

1403
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: back this week, one of the best defensive players in

1404
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: the country. He did not play last week with an

1405
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: ankle injury. There are just too many check marks in

1406
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 3: the Alabama boxes this week for me to even consider Tennessee.

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 3: The fact that it's on the road just makes it

1408
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 3: even sweeter Tuscaloose. So this feels like a roll tie

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 3: kind of game.

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Speaker 2: All right, We've got rich oron Berger, Penn State All American,

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian no coming up next.

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Speaker 3: All right, do.

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Speaker 2: This, prop it up?

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: Don't player plays now?

1431
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: Preck me if I'm wrong. It's been a running theme.

1432
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: You guys are paying off. Chris Professor, technical producer, and

1433
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: we were just playing the Hey, it's the rock and

1434
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: roll song that's universal though, that's not just a Penn

1435
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: State specific.

1436
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 6: Oh right, I saw the I think you missed it.

1437
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 6: I think you missed it every time. You know, no, no, no,

1438
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 6: they're smelling.

1439
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 2: Peas you were.

1440
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 3: It's state.

1441
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: It's very different state. It's very very different copyright. Got

1442
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 2: sure you have your signature thing over there, my bad.

1443
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:20,799
Speaker 3: Get on board, Brian.

1444
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 7: This is Nitney Nation today.

1445
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, okay, pro you got any Nitney Lions. You're

1446
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: gonna go all in on Drew Aller.

1447
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 6: Today, staying away from the holler props.

1448
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,879
Speaker 2: I'm actually going with Caleb Williams. You have an opportunity.

1449
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 6: To buy low on Caleb Williams passing touchdowns this season.

1450
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 4: I didn't think we would be able to say that

1451
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 4: this year, but.

1452
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 6: Two and a half he threw eight against the Utes

1453
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 6: last season. This is, like I said, a by low moment.

1454
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 6: So get well, the getting's good. I'll take the over

1455
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 6: on the two and a half passing touchdowns there, and

1456
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stay with a quarterback here, Spencer Rattler, South

1457
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 6: Carolina quarterback. He's playing against a red hot Missouri offense.

1458
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 6: Brady Cook on the other side of this matchup is

1459
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 6: a top twenty five quarterback in every single statistical category.

1460
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 4: But if you haven't payn attention.

1461
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 6: Spencer Rattler is quietly crushing it this year, averaging two

1462
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 6: to eighty seven through the air. He's got eleven touchdowns,

1463
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 6: only three picks. He's completing at a seventy three plus

1464
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 6: percentage rating on his completion percentage. So yeah, give me

1465
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 6: Spencer Rattler in this one over the two hundred and

1466
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 6: seventy and a hook.

1467
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 3: I like it. I'm going off the radar here, and

1468
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 3: I never thought I would ever bet on a Georgia

1469
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 3: Tech quarterback to go over his passing yards problem. Wow, Okay,

1470
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 3: because you think historically they're an option offense, but they're

1471
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 3: changing that offense and it's pretty noticeable. Haines King, Texas

1472
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 3: A and m transfer has been chucking it all over

1473
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 3: the arc for this Georgia Tech team. He's averaging thirty

1474
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 3: two attempts per game and he's coming off. So Georgia

1475
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 3: tacks off the by Remember that game against Miami Crazy

1476
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 3: game two weeks ago. Only threw for one hundred and

1477
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 3: fifty one yards in that game. But prior to that

1478
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 3: three forty eight, three h seven, three thirteen against Louisville,

1479
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he's had some really big time throwing games

1480
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 3: this year and Boston College can't defend the pass.

1481
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 7: They're one of the worst in the country at defending

1482
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 7: the pass.

1483
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: So I think Haynes King two sixty seven and a

1484
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: half will go over passing yards today, and then I think,

1485
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: if you want to go props in the Penn State

1486
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 3: Ohio State game, guys, I think he just go under

1487
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 3: across the board. How about Kyle McCord lost money on

1488
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: his under one and a half passing touchdowns prop. Now,

1489
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 3: he did throw three last week against Purdue, but game

1490
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: total of this game's forty five. So if there's only

1491
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: gonna be three touchdowns score for Ohio State, I'll bank

1492
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 3: on two out of the three coming on the ground

1493
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 3: here and we'll go under one and a half passing

1494
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 3: touchdowns for kamic cord at plus money.

1495
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: Not a bad friends there. Okay, I'm gonna look at

1496
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: UCF not exactly crushing it in Big twelve play, but

1497
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's pass defense is okay and plumby over there. UCF

1498
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 2: quarterback is passing totals at one ninety nine and a half.

1499
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: I think he can get to two hundred yards passing.

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01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 2: They're going to be playing from behind most likely, so

1501
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: a lot of passing opportunities throughout the game, and I

1502
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: just don't think Oklahoma is good enough to keep him

1503
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: under two hundred. I've been proven wrong before. Maybe this

1504
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: is another instance here, but I like Plumbley to sneak

1505
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 2: over one ninety nine and a half against the Sooners

1506
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 2: today because I think they'll be trailing and they gotta

1507
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 2: throw it, So I'll go with that one.

1508
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 4: I like it. Yeah, Yeah, we crushed it today.

1509
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 3: I have nothing else in the prop market today, with

1510
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: the exception of Drew Aller throwing for five hundred yards.

1511
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 6: I'm actually they're kind of shocked by Caleb Williams win

1512
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 6: with two and a half passing touchdowns. I feel like

1513
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 6: this is the game where I know we were talking

1514
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 6: about it. He can't try to go off, but he's

1515
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 6: gonna go off.

1516
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 2: I love I would love what the alternate yardage odds

1517
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 2: would be for Aller throwing for five.

1518
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 12: Hundred yards, probably plus a million if there's no shot

1519
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 12: he gets top two.

1520
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 7: I think two hundred is a good day for him

1521
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 7: to do.

1522
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: All right, come it up next, the game of the

1523
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: day and alleged cheating scoundrels.

1524
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,479
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1525
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,840
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1526
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1527
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1528
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: Oh, we are less than an hour away from kickoff.

1529
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 2: Over here, we will circle back to the matchup of

1530
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: the day Top ten showdown Penn State and Ohio State.

1531
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: But let's start off this hour with a little bit

1532
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: of sign stealing accusations, shall we. You got the Michigan Wolverines.

1533
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: They have been accused of stealing signs. This is a

1534
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 2: no no, you can't go on the road, which mis

1535
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: has been accused of doing and scout future opponents. It

1536
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 2: is against the rules. This has been put in play

1537
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety four, and this is what Michigan is

1538
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: accused of. Now, they did suspend a staffer that might

1539
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 2: have been on the road, might not have been. Jim

1540
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: Harbo of course, says, I don't know anything. I don't

1541
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: know what's going on over here. What sign stealing us

1542
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: guys on the road news to me. That is what

1543
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: he's saying here. But this is obviously the NCAA saying,

1544
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jim Harbaugh, the guy who lied to us

1545
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: and we had this whole thing. Is he suspended for

1546
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: four games. Is he suspended for three games at the

1547
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: beginning of the year because of recruiting improprieties. There's no

1548
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: doubt they took a closer look because they have an

1549
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 2: axe to freaking grind over here.

1550
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I look at I think it was Colin

1551
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 6: Coward this week who was talking about how this has

1552
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 6: the same feels as Pete Carroll during the end times

1553
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 6: or his end times at USC. You know, all of

1554
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 6: a sudden, then c double A starts doing this thing

1555
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 6: where they're like, hey, thank you for your time. You

1556
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 6: can head out now. And you know, Pete Carroll and

1557
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh both are kind of like, well, no, no, no,

1558
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 6: I mean things are going very well, I would say, swimmingly.

1559
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 6: Look at our recruiting, and you know, Michigan's on top

1560
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 6: again and and and we're stealing recruits out of Ohio

1561
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 6: from Ohio State and Michigan State has zero oxygen. We're

1562
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 6: just snuffing them out. And look look at what they

1563
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 6: have going on. I mean, don't look at it, look

1564
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 6: at what Look at what's going on across the you know,

1565
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 6: the fence in in Lansing. Keep keep your nose out.

1566
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 6: Ann Arbor and then cuble A is.

1567
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: Going no, no, no, no, no.

1568
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 6: We we know there's more to this than what's actually

1569
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 6: being reported, and so we're gonna slap you on the

1570
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 6: wrist and just let you understand that we're we're hot

1571
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 6: on your trail, Jim. And so Pete Carroll left and

1572
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 6: he went to Seattle, and obviously the rest is history there.

1573
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 6: I I sort of feel like there's good, there's an

1574
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 6: exit plan here, and I know he's a Michigan man

1575
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 6: and I know that I know that that he loves

1576
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 6: it there, and I don't know exactly when the date is,

1577
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 6: but I agree with that assessment. I think that this

1578
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 6: is both then this is the n c double A

1579
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 6: telling him it's time and Jim Harbaugh giving us all

1580
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 6: indications that it's time because last offseason with the coaching

1581
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 6: carousel or two offseasons ago, his name was one of

1582
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 6: the hot items coming out of college football to presumably

1583
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 6: take one of the openings in the NFL. And I

1584
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 6: think maybe this offseason that that that actually occurs.

1585
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, in terms of what this means for the like

1586
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 3: college football landscape, nothing, I think it's a nothing burger.

1587
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't affect how I feel about Michigan's success lately

1588
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: doesn't affect how I feel about what they've done on

1589
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:14,799
Speaker 3: the field. This is the NC DOUBLEA versus coach Arbaugh

1590
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 3: and and it's just a battle back and forth. I

1591
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: don't know who's going to win that battle. Frankly, I

1592
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 3: think coach Arbo's got a little sway here. He might

1593
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 3: end up winning, and he might end up staying at

1594
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: Michigan for for many years to come. But the fact

1595
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 3: that they sent this and I was reading the story

1596
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 3: this week. It was on Yahoo Sports that broke it.

1597
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 3: I think it was Dan Wetzel who broke it.

1598
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 7: And it was a.

1599
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 3: It was it was like an It's like an intern

1600
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 3: that they sent ahead to these games. And he actually

1601
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 3: kind of outed himself by posting some of his strategic

1602
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 3: game planning on LinkedIn, and I think that's probably how

1603
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 3: the NCUBLEA found him. And it just it's looking more

1604
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: like the NC double A is trying everything to get

1605
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 3: under harbuss skin and to get him to do something

1606
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 3: more egregious that would be grounds for a dismissal. But

1607
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: this is this is nothing like this story to me

1608
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 3: should die like it doesn't. It doesn't matter in the

1609
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: grand scheme of college football because everyone probably does this

1610
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 3: to some capacity. It's not an elaborate scheme, like they

1611
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: sent one guy ahead to games to watch, Like it's

1612
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 3: not a huge deal. Now, is it officially breaking the

1613
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 3: letter of the law. Yes, but it's like going forty

1614
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: in a thirty five. If you get caught speeding, you're

1615
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 3: not gonna get your license suspended. You're just gonna you know,

1616
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: the CoP's gonna make you pay a fine and you're

1617
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 3: gonna move on with your life.

1618
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 7: And I think that's where this is.

1619
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 3: But Michigan and Jim Arbaugh and the NCAA, like they've

1620
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 3: got this beef and I don't know how it's gonna end.

1621
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 3: But clearly this is a blown way out of abortion

1622
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 3: because the story to me again is a big nothing burger.

1623
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 2: Well, I think it shows the initial story. Why man

1624
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: just admit you did something wrong the first time, right,

1625
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing is do you minimize drama or

1626
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 2: do you create drama? And Jim Harbaugh created drama the

1627
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: first time where he was just lying. He just lied

1628
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: to the NCAA and they're like, oh, okay, you just

1629
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: think you're gonna do that, And we're just gonna go

1630
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 2: off into the distance like no, no, they're gonna come

1631
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 2: back right at him. So I think a lot of

1632
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: this and how you're talking about it, some people perceive

1633
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: this as being petty. There's no doubt this is connected

1634
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: to the first thing that went wrong in the office, COVID.

1635
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, the COVID investigation thing.

1636
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely it is.

1637
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy a person of interest, this Connor

1638
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 3: Stallion's guy. Like you're making it like he committed some

1639
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: crime somewhere, like he was literally just doing his job,

1640
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 3: Like I'm reading the story person of interest in quotes.

1641
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Like come on, well, my favorite part of this story

1642
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 2: was that they're playing Michigan State. And so, upon hearing

1643
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: about this the alleged signs stealing system there with the Wolverines,

1644
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,839
Speaker 2: the Spartans told the NC double A they were considering

1645
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: not playing this weekend's get out of here. Let me

1646
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: tell you, I'll tell you what real fast. Yeah, yeah,

1647
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 2: that just shows you where Sparty is. Let's say let's

1648
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: say Sparti is the number two ranked team and Sparta

1649
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 2: is favored by twenty four points. Do you think they're

1650
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: kicking around the idea of not playing the joke?

1651
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 4: Oh, listen.

1652
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 6: Also like the whole, the whole, like idea of well, well,

1653
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 6: who was the whistleblower? Right, like who was the person

1654
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 6: or people who decided we have this information, we need

1655
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 6: to send it to the NC double A so they

1656
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 6: look into this. The answer is now we know, now,

1657
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,440
Speaker 6: we know, Like you've outed yourself, Michigan State, we get it.

1658
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 6: It's sad. It's a state of affairs that nobody wants.

1659
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 6: In college football or in sports. We like parody, as

1660
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 6: sports fans are, right, at least we suggest we like parody.

1661
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 6: I think when there is a team or teams on

1662
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 6: top of everybody else, subjugating the rest of the field,

1663
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 6: I think we actually do like that better, but we

1664
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 6: fail to admit it because it gives you a villain.

1665
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 6: Like the Golden State Warriors. They have a likable cast

1666
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 6: of characters outside of Draymond Green, but because they have

1667
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 6: Draymond Green, and because he can say the thing that

1668
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 6: greats on fan bases and there's like, ooh, I just

1669
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 6: hate that guy. Like the Patriots, Bill Belichick, the Evil Empire.

1670
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,440
Speaker 6: Twenty years of success in the NFL. People are relishing

1671
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 6: in their downfall right now, that is exactly what fans

1672
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 6: want and they don't realize it, but Michigan State doesn't

1673
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 6: want that. Michigan State, while there isn't parody. What does

1674
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 6: this mean? They have zero life, They're not able to

1675
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 6: recruit their state. Nobody wants to go to Lansing. They

1676
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 6: all want to go to ann Arbor. And the fact

1677
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 6: that they came out this week and said, Hm, we

1678
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 6: were considering not even playing because that's not fair, Well,

1679
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 6: guess what you've outed yourself this report. I'm guessing again

1680
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 6: this is my own subjective opinion and belief. This report

1681
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 6: started with somebody at Michigan State tipping off the NCAA

1682
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 6: a couple weeks ago, feeding them who they thought the

1683
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 6: analyst in turn was who's being.

1684
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 4: Paid fifty five thousand dollars.

1685
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 6: It's a pretty good amount of money for an intern

1686
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 6: a head to games to scout signals. It's it's I mean,

1687
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 6: it's connect the dots A to B. Sorry, SPARTI, you're

1688
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 6: caught and you look foolish to me.

1689
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 3: It was Ross Dellinger, by the way, not Dan Westill.

1690
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 3: Sorry I mean to miss misquote the article there. He's

1691
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 3: the one that broke the story on Friday yesterday.

1692
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 4: So it.

1693
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: I went.

1694
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 3: When I was digging into it, it seemed like one

1695
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 3: of those stories where I was waiting, all right, well,

1696
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 3: what do they really do? Like he just sent this

1697
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: guy to a bunch of games of future teams, and

1698
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: I'll kick it back to you Rich because you might

1699
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 3: be able to I can't answer this question. How many

1700
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: times did you change your signals throughout the course of

1701
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 3: a season?

1702
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 4: Guess what?

1703
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 2: A lot?

1704
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 6: And you know, you know when you change them the most,

1705
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 6: when you knew that you were facing a team that

1706
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 6: did this, that had advanced scouts. That And by the way,

1707
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 6: if you're smart enough as a coach and a football program,

1708
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 6: you can actually use that to your advantage because you

1709
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,879
Speaker 6: can use dummy signs.

1710
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 4: So if it's hand.

1711
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 6: Signals that you're worried about, you can use dummy hand

1712
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 6: signals to get defenses thinking that they're in the correct call,

1713
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden you gash them because you

1714
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 6: have your your cover two beaters and you know that's

1715
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 6: exactly what they're going to go into, or they think

1716
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 6: they know that this hand signal means blitz and meanwhile

1717
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 6: you're dropping eight and all of a sudden, a quarterback

1718
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 6: has nowhere to go with the football. Like if it's

1719
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 6: hand signals, if it's code words, you can change these

1720
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 6: things up. You can use dummy calls, and you can

1721
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 6: actually make you can turn.

1722
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 4: What would be perceived as this this.

1723
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 6: Unbelo believable advantage from Michigan toward your favor All you

1724
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 6: gotta do is just shut up about it. Like you

1725
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 6: have the information that they're stealing signals. So what you

1726
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 6: do is you get into the lab and you find

1727
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 6: a way to make it so they.

1728
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: Can't steal signals from you.

1729
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 6: I know that's a ridiculous thought, but it is possible.

1730
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 6: And unless they are specifically coming to your practices and

1731
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 6: they have an inside man at your practices, well then

1732
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 6: they're not doing anything different than anybody else sitting in

1733
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 6: the stands can do.

1734
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 3: And here's the quote from the article, from a Big

1735
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 3: ten coach quote. We were told to be careful because

1736
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 3: they had a guy who could pick plays. It was

1737
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 3: too late in the week to change our signals, but

1738
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 3: another staff did tell us about this guy, Stallion. So

1739
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 3: this has been like common knowledge, like Michigan does this

1740
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,839
Speaker 3: the week before you play Michigan, change up your signals.

1741
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 3: And I understand if you are breaking the letter of

1742
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 3: the law, and apparently this is again and it's like

1743
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:02,799
Speaker 3: a misdemeanor. They just, you know, towing the line between

1744
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 3: legal and illegal. In terms of the NCAA bylaws was

1745
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: sign stealing and this was something that was legal years

1746
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 3: ago and then it was changed. And there's a lot

1747
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 3: of gray area here. Every team does this in some capacity.

1748
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 3: It's like the Patriots with the spygate stuff. Every team

1749
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 3: does that in some capacity. Bill just took it to

1750
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 3: another level.

1751
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 7: So it was when I read this yesterday.

1752
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 3: I was laughing to myself because I was like, man,

1753
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 3: everyone's just trying to get in on Jim Harball these days,

1754
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 3: and I think that's what this is more than an

1755
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 3: actual scandal.

1756
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's they don't like the guy exactly. He gave

1757
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: him a reason to not like them, and that's on

1758
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 2: him too, right, Like it would have been better just

1759
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: to get out in front of this, Hey I misled you,

1760
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 2: my bad, but he's too proud to do that. It's ego,

1761
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: that's really what it came down to. So we'll see

1762
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 2: how much this follows them around. I think it's funny

1763
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 2: how the Patriots have all this success and spygate is

1764
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: built up to be the ultimate advantage. It is the

1765
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,839
Speaker 2: ultimate advantage of all time. And then Michigan does something

1766
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 2: similar and it's like, shrug your shoulders. Everybody does this

1767
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 2: big deal. It's just so funny how it changes from

1768
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 2: one to the other.

1769
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 4: Well, and also it's.

1770
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 6: The first through the wall, right, like whenever it's the

1771
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 6: first time we hear something like this. Like again, this

1772
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 6: was something that everybody in football knew about, right And

1773
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 6: by the way, New England, I promise you was not

1774
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 6: the only one doing this, because when we prepared for

1775
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 6: teams that did this, we would change our signals and.

1776
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 2: They put out a memo. That's the whole thing. The

1777
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 2: NFL put a memo out of like hey, guys, knock

1778
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: it off. Like do you think if it was the

1779
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 2: ultimate advantage, they would have just put out a memo like, hey,

1780
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 2: let's knock this off, all right, Like come.

1781
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 4: On, man.

1782
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 3: And the NFL doesn't like Belichick that much either. I mean,

1783
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that there's probably some bad blood over the

1784
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 3: years that's built up there, So listen, I don't want

1785
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 3: to get back to the historical stuff with this, but

1786
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: when I read this story, I was just like, what

1787
01:32:58,360 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 3: are we doing here, Guys like, this is not me.

1788
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 6: I mean, this is the same thing with the Astros,

1789
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 6: like everybody, every time, it's synonymous. Now Astros cheeters like

1790
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 6: it is. It's all you hear. Meanwhile, same thing happened

1791
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 6: in Major League Baseball. They sent out a memo to

1792
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 6: all thirty clubs. They said, hey, we know what you're doing,

1793
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 6: and naughty, naughty, don't do it anymore. You're using technology

1794
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 6: to steal signs and you're communicating in some way with

1795
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 6: the players on the field what's coming next. We see it,

1796
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 6: We see what you're doing. I mean, and I'm not

1797
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 6: going to out anybody in particular, but let's put it

1798
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 6: this way.

1799
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 4: I heard from.

1800
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 6: Specific sources at different franchises that this was happening at

1801
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 6: at least seven teams across Major League Baseball. And that's

1802
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 6: just what I've That's just what me. Somebody who used

1803
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 6: to play in the NFL heard through second parties, Like,

1804
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 6: let's face it, every single team, to some margin or

1805
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 6: another was doing this. And maybe Houston was doing it

1806
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 6: the best, or maybe they just had the best players

1807
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 6: doing it that year. I don't know, but I know

1808
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 6: that this is not as big of a deal as

1809
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 6: everybody makes it out to be. And it's been an

1810
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 6: unspoken thing in sports forever and people are just saying

1811
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 6: the quiet part's out loud now and everybody's uncomfortable with it.

1812
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 6: It's just a part of the game. It's gamesmanship.

1813
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 7: If you ain't cheat and you ain't winning, right to.

1814
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,839
Speaker 4: A greater or lesser extent, that is accurate.

1815
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you always have to try to find an edge.

1816
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 3: I think it's more about is your edge now becoming

1817
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: a public nuisance? And I think the fact that in

1818
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: this article other coaches in the Big Ten were already

1819
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 3: aware of this and scheming against it. It's kind of

1820
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 3: just part of the game plan the week before you

1821
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 3: play Michigan, you better change your signs. If you don't,

1822
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 3: that's on you. Like if you're going to take stale

1823
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 3: signals into a game against Michigan. It is common knowledge

1824
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 3: amongst the Big Ten coaches that everyone knows that they

1825
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 3: steal them, so change them.

1826
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just say souper fast. The little bow is

1827
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,600
Speaker 2: we act like cheating is just one level, you know

1828
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it's just this great, big bin

1829
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 2: of cheating. And what the Astros were doing with electronical

1830
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: devices and banging on trash cans. It's so much different

1831
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 2: than yeah, we got ted over at the Rutgers game.

1832
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 2: It's so different, right, So yeah, well, well I get

1833
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 2: what you're saying, but you can't tell me. You can't

1834
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: tell me that that was encapsulated to one franchise because

1835
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, well, I can tell you, I I've

1836
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 2: heard of a lot of teams doing similar things. And again,

1837
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the genesis of some of these ideas was

1838
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: out of Houston and and maybe that's the reason why

1839
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 2: they got hit the hardest. But I can promise you

1840
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 2: very similar, if not the exact same things were happening

1841
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 2: at multiple franchises. But you have to have a torch

1842
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 2: bearer for the for the punishment. You have to have,

1843
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 2: you know, the person who takes the fall, so everybody

1844
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 2: else flees, you know, Oh god, oh, we don't want suspensions,

1845
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: we don't want to get fired, we don't want this,

1846
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 2: we don't want this stay in our reputation. And so

1847
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, you go after that market instead of the

1848
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 2: other markets that are more important to baseball.

1849
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 4: And that's the way the.

1850
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 2: Cookie crumbles, all right, that's the voice of Rich Ornberger,

1851
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 2: Penn State All American back from Hawaii State. Side over

1852
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:33,839
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1853
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,320
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1854
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1855
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1856
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,880
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1857
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1865
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1866
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: the slide continue for Miami. Miami lost a heartbreaker against

1867
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,799
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech a couple of weeks ago because they didn't

1868
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 2: kneel on the football and run the clock out, and

1869
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 2: then last week they got handled by North Carolina. They're

1870
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 2: at home, They're facing Clemson, and Clemson has smacked them

1871
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: around something fierce. Over the last four meetings, Miami has

1872
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 2: been outscored by Clemson one seventy eight to Thirty's what

1873
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 2: we're looking at here. So does the slide continue for

1874
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes. Clemson's got a really good defense. I say

1875
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: it does. What do you guys think?

1876
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think does.

1877
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 6: Also, I'm guessing I haven't looked at this spread, but

1878
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,799
Speaker 6: Clemson narrow favorites on the road in Miami.

1879
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. Minus three hasn't really moved off of three

1880
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 3: all week. It's been kind of stagnant.

1881
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like it could be a close game,

1882
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 6: and I think that's fair. But but I do think

1883
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 6: ultimately Clemson, Clemson will win this this game. Miami's down bad.

1884
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 6: I just I just don't. I just don't think you

1885
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 6: can have a loss like that, and really, unless you're

1886
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 6: a special program, which I don't believe they are this year,

1887
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 6: you can really bounce back from that.

1888
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 4: That was That was gutting.

1889
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 6: That was I mean that there there are games, there

1890
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 6: are plays in seasons that pretty much punctuate the entire year,

1891
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 6: and unfortunately.

1892
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:52,440
Speaker 4: For the Hurricanes.

1893
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,799
Speaker 6: That was it like that is going to be most

1894
01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 6: likely the play of the season for them, and out

1895
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 6: of disappointment because I think that this is a team

1896
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 6: that could have overachieved. I think that a five to

1897
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,799
Speaker 6: one record would look much better than four and two,

1898
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 6: especially considering the way they lost to Georgia Tech.

1899
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 2: That that one.

1900
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 6: Was inconceivable losing to you and see, okay, fine, but

1901
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 6: you can't lose to Georgia Tech. Is that is going

1902
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 6: to be I mean that if we're going to do

1903
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 6: the post mortem on this season at some point in

1904
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 6: the offseason, that'll be the first thing you turn to.

1905
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 3: So this is this happens almost every year. I'll read

1906
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 3: you a few of the years that this has also

1907
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 3: happened for Miami. In twenty twenty one, lost at home

1908
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 3: to underdog Michigan State, then lost their next two against

1909
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 3: FBS opponents. Last year, they got their doors blown off

1910
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 3: as a twenty five point favorite by Middle Tennessee, then

1911
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 3: did not cover six straight games after that debacle. So

1912
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: just in the last two years, they have lost twice

1913
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 3: as an underdog or and they've lost twice the favorite

1914
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: when the other team won is an underdog and then

1915
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 3: after that game, it's just gone off the rails. And

1916
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 3: that's coaching, right Rich, that's Mario Chrystobaul unable to reignite

1917
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 3: the flames. That is resting dormant. Now in this Miami program,

1918
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 3: They've got a ton of talent, but if they're not

1919
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 3: right between the ears. When we were on UNC last week,

1920
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 3: I bet him on the alt spread that hit as well,

1921
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 3: and I think you keep fading him here. This is

1922
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 3: a strength versus strength game, though, and I'm always intrigued

1923
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 3: by those games.

1924
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 2: Right.

1925
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 3: Miami's got a top ten offense, Clemson's got a top

1926
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 3: ten defense. But Clemson's defense I think is better than

1927
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,959
Speaker 3: Miami's offense, and Clemson's defense I think is getting healthier.

1928
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins top corner, arguably one of the top corners

1929
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 3: in this class. You're gonna see his name in the

1930
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,759
Speaker 3: first round of the NFL Draft coming up in April.

1931
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 7: He's back this week. Sheridan Jones, another starting.

1932
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 3: Caliber corner, is back for Clemson, so their secondary is

1933
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: getting stronger. And last year's leading receiver Antonio Williams is

1934
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: also back this week after not playing last week. I

1935
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 3: don't love Clemson's offense Kate Clubnick has not shown me much.

1936
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 3: I certainly preferred Tyler van Dyke, but Van Dyke banged

1937
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 3: Up's got a knee injury, he's got multiple ligaments torn

1938
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 3: in his throwing hand, and he's throwing five picks in

1939
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 3: his last two games. I just I cannot get behind

1940
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 3: the Miami team here. And I think the numbers telling

1941
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 3: you Clemson is the better team. I think Clemson wins

1942
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 3: this game.

1943
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 2: How about this that too, Miami is zero to five

1944
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 2: in acc home games under Mario Christibaal. Wow, that's like.

1945
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 3: If it was a recruiting he'd be fired already.

1946
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1947
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 3: I just he offers nothing from a game perspective to

1948
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 3: me when I watch his games.

1949
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 2: Well, hey, man, you go back to Oregon. I don't

1950
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 2: mean to speak crushing Mario cristaball here, but you go

1951
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,719
Speaker 2: back to Oregon when Justin Herbert was there. It pulled

1952
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 2: up on my Facebook memories thing that I went to

1953
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: an Oregon game with one of my buddies and so

1954
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 2: and he sent me some and back. He was like,

1955
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 2: you remember driving back from that game, we were like,

1956
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 2: is Herbert good? Like That's what we were wondering because

1957
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 2: of the way Chrystal Ball used him in college. He

1958
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 2: was so conservative. Yeah, and uh, it's just so ironic

1959
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 2: that he was conservative with Herbert. Yet he's not kneeling

1960
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: on the football and let's be aggressive and keep running.

1961
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 7: Not a great coach, like, honestly, that's not a great

1962
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 7: game coach.

1963
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 3: Right.

1964
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: We are not zero and five in conference games with

1965
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,680
Speaker 2: Isaac Lohenkron, no head, No, we are undefeated.

1966
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:34,719
Speaker 8: Wait, that's because I steal signs.

1967
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

1968
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 4: Good point.

1969
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 2: But you're low key about it, allegedly about it.

1970
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 6: You don't get you're actually putting it on your LinkedIn page.

1971
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 8: Right, Life in twenty twenty three. We'll talk about life

1972
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty three on this Saturday in the NFL,

1973
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 8: where the Pittsburgh Steelers today plays tight end Pat Freyerman

1974
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 8: on an injured reserve because of a hamstring injury. Steelers

1975
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 8: also activating receiver Deontay Johnson from injured reserve. In Game

1976
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,640
Speaker 8: five of the American League Championship Series on Friday.

1977
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 5: Astros down four to two. The pitch and how two

1978
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 5: they hits it in the air pretty deep to left.

1979
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 5: Carteris back at.

1980
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 11: The wall, leaves and it is gone. It's gone, It's gone.

1981
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 11: It's God mosiltive get the Astros a five to four.

1982
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 8: Lane over the Texas Rangers on k b ME. That

1983
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 8: would be the final. Houston leads the series three games

1984
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 8: to two. In Game four of the National League Championship

1985
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 8: Series on Friday night, the Arizona Diamondbacks rallied from a

1986
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 8: five to two deficit of the bottom of the seventh

1987
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 8: inning to defeat the Philadelphia Phillies six to five, tying

1988
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 8: the series at two wins a piece. And finally, an

1989
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 8: NBA preseason action on Friday night, in San Antonio's one

1990
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 8: twenty two to one seventeen win at Golden State, rookie

1991
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 8: number one overall draft pick Victor weben Yama had nineteen

1992
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 8: points and five blocked shots in just twenty one minutes

1993
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 8: of action. Fellas back to.

1994
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 2: You, I Lo, You're the freaking man.

1995
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 8: Good Nightwise Likewise, Fellas.

1996
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,520
Speaker 3: Love you, Bud.

1997
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So, Fox Sports Radios Cam down to kickoff, presented

1998
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: by Bett MGM. You know I'm gonna attempt something here.

1999
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: We gotta go rapid fire style and I'm gonna bring

2000
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 2: up Penn State. Oh boy, I know how you guys

2001
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 2: like talk. Okay, So, this is a test. Consider this

2002
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 2: year twenty four lightly shot clock. Okay, all right, I'm

2003
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 2: thinking this with Drew Aller twelve touchdowns, zero interceptions. I

2004
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,679
Speaker 2: think Chris is up to one hundred dollars in there, Yes,

2005
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 2: getting this.

2006
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 3: Pence is going to be dry today.

2007
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so does Drew Aller pull a Sam Hartman? This

2008
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking. Okay, Sam Hartman, the Notre Dame

2009
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: quarterback heading into the Louisville game. I think he had

2010
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 2: fourteen touchdowns, but certainly zero interceptions heading into that game.

2011
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 2: He threw three of them against Louisville. I don't see

2012
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 2: Drew Aller throwing three interceptions today, but I don't see

2013
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: him having a zero a goose egg in the interception

2014
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 2: column when this game is done. He can't dink and

2015
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 2: dunk all day, and so I think that the uh,

2016
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 2: the clean sheet, if you will, it's over. I see

2017
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,759
Speaker 2: him throwing at least one interception today.

2018
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 6: You guys, boy, Gert, I love that you went there,

2019
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 6: because that's really, in my mind, the only way Penn

2020
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 6: State can really get beat badly is if he starts

2021
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 6: making mistakes with the football. If they're trailing, I could

2022
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 6: see it happening if they're chasing points, because that is

2023
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 6: not Penn State's game.

2024
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 4: But I don't.

2025
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 6: I don't think it's gonna happen that way. I think

2026
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 6: the team that's gonna be pressing is the team that's

2027
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 6: gonna be facing the most pressure, and I believe that's

2028
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 6: going to be Ohio State. I think this, this pass

2029
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,839
Speaker 6: rush is going to get to Kyle McCord.

2030
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 3: He hasn't done a pick all year. Yeah, so you did,

2031
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 3: Sam Hartman, and then I know, well, I think I

2032
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 3: think what they ask of him will be important today. Yes, again,

2033
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 3: he's only attempted eight passes all year beyond eighteen yards,

2034
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 3: so it's hard to throw an interception when you're thinking dunk,

2035
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 3: check down Charlie all year. And there's going to come

2036
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 3: a point in this game where they're going to ask

2037
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 3: him to push the ball down the field. So yes,

2038
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 3: of all the games he's played, this is the game

2039
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 3: that has the highest probability of him throwing an interception.

2040
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 3: The fact that he hasn't thrown one and the odds

2041
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 3: are minus one thirty or higher for him to do

2042
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 3: so is telling you the market thinks he will today.

2043
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he will do you think he'll stay clean.

2044
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 7: I'm abstaining from answering negatives.

2045
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 2: Come on, he's that facing you mass like, that's the thing.

2046
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be leading sixty three to nothing. I

2047
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: can guarantee you that. So if you're trailing, especially if

2048
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 2: you're trailing late, you can't dink and dunk all day.

2049
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Just can't happen and expect to win.

2050
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 7: Let's leave it at this.

2051
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 3: If you're going to bet over on Drew Aller's interception

2052
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 3: prop today, you should pair it with Ohio State money line.

2053
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:11,799
Speaker 3: It is a very correlated wager. If he is forced

2054
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 3: to throw deep and throw an interception, that means it's

2055
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 3: going badly for Penn State.

2056
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 4: I completely agree.

2057
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 6: I I don't think he throws a pick if if

2058
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 6: Penn State is gonna win this game, yeah, I think,

2059
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 6: And in fact, I almost feel like if he throws

2060
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 6: a pick, it's not gonna be the reason they lose.

2061
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 6: I think if he throws a pick it's because games Yeah,

2062
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 6: exactly right. Ohio State has jumped out to an early lead,

2063
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 6: and they're pressing, and they're relying on a part of

2064
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 6: the game that they're uncomfortable with.

2065
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 4: That he's uncomfortable with.

2066
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 6: And that'll be uh, that'll be a telltale sign that

2067
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 6: it's a bad day for ninty Nation.

2068
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 2: How about this, We're expecting a lot of offense in

2069
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 2: the South Carolina Missouri game.

2070
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

2071
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 2: And Shane Shane Beemer, the UH game Cocks head coach,

2072
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 2: he broke his foot after kicking something after they lost

2073
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 2: to Florida. They gave up a double digit lead in

2074
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and he said it was after the

2075
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 2: game and certainly that was a gut wrenching, emotional loss.

2076
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 2: I was frustrated and kicked something that I shouldn't have

2077
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 2: kicked and thought I was okay, but the adrenaline of

2078
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 2: the game war off. He is writhing in fain and

2079
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 2: I love this. He joked that the athletic director Ray Tanner,

2080
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 2: I didn't get a whole lot of empathy from him,

2081
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 2: who died laughing when Shane Biemer told him about the injury.

2082
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 2: How about that, you kick something, you break your foot,

2083
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 2: you tell your ad and the AD is just on

2084
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 2: the floor laughing. I just love that. But South Carolina

2085
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 2: trying to get right against Missouri, Missouri very quietly six

2086
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 2: and one on the season, felt.

2087
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Missouri's got a high powered offense, but so doa

2088
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 6: is the game Cox. This was my prop of the day.

2089
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 6: Two seventy and a half passing yardage for Spencer Rattler.

2090
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 4: Give me the over there.

2091
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,839
Speaker 6: Because I do think that he's going to be chasing

2092
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 6: Rady Cook and this Missouri Tigers offense all day long.

2093
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 4: And I do mean chasing. Like you said, this is

2094
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 4: the quietest.

2095
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 6: Six and one season I think we've ever seen. But

2096
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 6: the Tigers are real. They are the real deal. And

2097
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 6: uh and I think this this might end up being

2098
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 6: their seventh winn in the season.

2099
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:21,679
Speaker 12: Luther Burden, right, I meant he should be back last week? Yeah, yeah,

2100
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 12: I mean we of course we were one week late

2101
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 12: on the Luther Burden train, although we gave him out

2102
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 12: the prior week and he went over.

2103
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 3: So I guess we're one and one on the Luther

2104
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 3: Burden props. But if that duo of Cook and Burden

2105
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 3: get going, I mean, South Carolina's secondary has been a

2106
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 3: struggle this year. Yeah, and Columbia is tough, and I

2107
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 3: know Missouri is not this typical SEC stronghold, but that's

2108
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 3: a tough place to play. Usually it's windy, it's an out.

2109
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 3: It's a very outdoor, open air stadium, and it can

2110
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 3: get a little fiery. Afternoon game today, so it's not

2111
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 3: the night game in Columbia when they really get a

2112
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 3: little weird. They were they all blacks, But I think

2113
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:01,600
Speaker 3: this is Spencer Rattler if they can keep that offensive

2114
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 3: line stays solid up front. I think Missouri's defense has

2115
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 3: been had. We saw what Elis you did to them

2116
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago. So this game has kind of

2117
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 3: sneaky shootout vibes. If both Cook and Rattler are both

2118
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 3: slinging it.

2119
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 2: I think Burden goes over one hundred today. Yeah, that's

2120
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 2: a pretty backup. He's back in a big way that

2121
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 2: I could see it. Like, Rich, there's gonna be a

2122
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,759
Speaker 2: lot of points in this game. Yeah, high scoring affairs.

2123
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 3: Smells like two good quarterbacks with some pretty good weapons

2124
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 3: and defenses that are about average to sub subpar.

2125
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 2: Right, all right, we've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State all American.

2126
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,799
Speaker 2: I think he owes Chris Purfett over one hundred dollars

2127
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 2: right with all the Penn States from today. Yeah, we're

2128
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 2: carrying up. We're joining for sixteen.

2129
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 3: Gotta send us your Venmo Chris.

2130
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if he uses three different Penn State

2131
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 2: music beds for each.

2132
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, you only get one more. We're

2133
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 7: not signed stealing.

2134
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 2: Over here, We're not What is that? I thought it

2135
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 2: was ten dollars a pop and now all of a

2136
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 2: sudden the goldpost to be and moved.

2137
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:06,799
Speaker 7: Up on this at all. Yeah, I thought I was falling.

2138
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 7: It was gonna fall on deaf years.

2139
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 2: Jared Smith is with us FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian

2140
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: No coming up next, picks Galore, we Go, Rapid Fire

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Speaker 2: Style and uh pretty good week collectively seven and two

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Speaker 2: last week, so hoping to close it strong here today

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Speaker 2: as well. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff

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Speaker 2: presented by bet MGM. We are thirteen minutes away from kickoff.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by

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Speaker 2: bet MGM. Props to the crew as always, Ryan Berschinger

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Speaker 2: our guy back in with Bo Benson. It's usc got

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01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 2: smacked around so bad last week. Bow had to take

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Speaker 2: the weekend off. Wow. Yeah, now it's his birthday. His

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01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 2: birthday was yesterday. Happy birthday to Bo and shout out

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Speaker 2: to Ryan Berschinger. Filling in for him today, our old

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01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 2: producer back. We've got a Chris Perfect who's a wealthy

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Speaker 2: man after playing all this Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Music today all in one place there, Chris.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Technical producer Isaac Lowen Cron on the updates

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01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:11,719
Speaker 2: Top of the Hour. You got t J. Hushmanzada, Carrie

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Speaker 2: Rhoades my man for Jet. That's right, former Jet, former

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01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: Arizona cardinal watches Jory Louisville game former teammate carry Roads

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Speaker 2: right there. That's awesome, Rich, Yeah, very nice up on game.

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Speaker 2: Kerry's nicest guy on the pop. That awesome dude up

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Speaker 2: on game. Top of the Hour. Okay, we got some

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Speaker 2: picks to make. Let's dive in here. Rapid Fire all right,

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01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 2: Jared off a three and oh weekend?

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Speaker 3: What do you have for a thereby hate on the

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Speaker 3: thirteen and eleven for the year. So moving in a

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Speaker 3: positive direction, but we're just getting started people. Revenge is

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01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 3: the theme of this week's Rapid Fire picks. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with USC laying seven points again revenge game. They lost

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Speaker 3: twice to Utah last year and this is one of

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Speaker 3: those Hey you down quarterbacks out best tight end Keithy's out,

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01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 3: not a lot of offense for the Utes. I think

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01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 3: USC gets back on track this week after Brian's boys

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 3: Laida hurtin on the Trojans last week in South Bend.

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Speaker 3: I'll take the Trojans minus seven another revenge game. Alabama

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01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 3: laying eight and a half at home today against Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Gave this out on Friday in our social video of

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Speaker 3: the week for FSR. I just I don't see Tennessee's

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01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 3: offense stretching this Alabama defense. Malachi Moor is back for

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Speaker 3: the tie today. We will take Bama laying eight and

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01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,839
Speaker 3: a half at home against Tennessee.

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01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 6: Wow, we're against each other on one of these picks.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there.

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01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 6: I'll start there, and I'll give you the reason why

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01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 6: I think USC isn't going to cover. Caleb Williams when

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01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 6: pressured is close to the bottom of the list among

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01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 6: Power five quarterbacks. We watched him panic and flounder against Irish.

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Speaker 4: I think the Utes watched that film.

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01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 6: They have a pressure plan, So give me the points

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01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 6: I got the Utes catch in seven. Colorado State the

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01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 6: Rams with viral for the buzzer beater win over Boise

2191
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 6: State a week ago. They head to UNLV to face

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Speaker 6: a revitalized Rebels team. I believe the Rams pick up

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01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 6: where they left off. Start fast in Sin City. Give

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01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,759
Speaker 6: me CSU catching seven on the road, and then Penn State.

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01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 6: They had the highest pass rush win rate in the country.

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01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 6: Ohio State has the seventh worst quarterback in college football

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Speaker 6: and facing pressure, I've got confidence in the country's best defense.

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Speaker 6: Give me the points I got the Nitney Lions catching

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Speaker 6: seven or excuse me, catching four on the road against

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Speaker 6: the Buckey Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, there's a major line movement ever

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Speaker 2: a second seven state? Yeah, yeah, I would do you know?

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01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 2: There was a there was a week where I went

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01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: undefeated and I started retracing my steps. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: what was different about that week? Remember the Mic cover?

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01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 3: I kicked superstitious spring over here?

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 2: That's right, and oh man, this is a that's not

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 2: a good ome but hard to get that snug snug

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Speaker 2: Mike cover. Right, dog, here's what I'm thinking over here,

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01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 2: going with a couple of dogs. Give me Baylor plus

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01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 2: two and a half. Okay, Cincinnati and Big twelve play

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01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 2: freaking terrible, terrible. Give me the Baylor Bears. I'm gonna

2213
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 2: go with Clemson I'll lay the three on the road Miami.

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01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 2: The tailspin continues. They have had nothing for Clemson, who

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Speaker 2: has a solid defense, and ever since, like the Horror Show,

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01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 2: not kneeling against Georgia Tech. I think they're in for

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Speaker 2: more pain. And give me a Service Academy. Give me

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Speaker 2: Navy plus ten and a half against Air Force today.

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01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 2: The dogs have been barking in this series over the

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Speaker 2: last twenty So I get ten and a half with

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Speaker 2: Navy Air Force their quarterbacks down, give me the midshipman,

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Speaker 2: all right, and my dad was in the Navy, so

2223
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Speaker 2: I got that extra luck on my side as well.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm going with. All Right, We've got this

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Speaker 2: to throw at you as well. Let's dive in.

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Speaker 1: This is the best play of the day's man.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jared, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 3: First, each of the last five Service Academy games, they've

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Speaker 3: been decided by seven points fads. So I'm on Navy

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Speaker 3: today too. Put yeah, I think we're actually all three

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Speaker 3: of Brian's picks I have on my card.

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Speaker 7: So Brian and I are in stopatigo today. But play

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Speaker 7: the day, guys.

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Speaker 3: This is this one, Rivals, the Shamus Special. This is

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Speaker 3: a stinky, ugly, disgusting underdog on homecoming in Hoosierville, Indiana plus.

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Speaker 7: Six against Rutgers.

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Speaker 3: Guys. Rutgers has been in the Big Ten now for

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Speaker 3: several years. They have never been favored by more than

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Speaker 3: two points on the road in the Big Ten. They're

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Speaker 3: favored by six today. And I am a believer in karma.

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Speaker 3: I have nothing nice to say about Indiana's offense. They're terrible,

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01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 3: their defense is atrocious. Everything about Indiana is bad. But

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01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 3: karma matters to me. Rutgers otis won last week. I

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01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 3: don't know how they pulled that game off. I have

2246
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 3: no idea it was a special team's fluke in here

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01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 3: and that Rutgers is not going on the road today

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01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:05,959
Speaker 3: and blowing out Indiana.

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Speaker 7: So it's a karma play.

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Speaker 3: It's more of a gut field than it is analytics

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Speaker 3: or or insight. But I think Indiana on homecoming, the

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01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 3: stinky dog of the week, keeps things close today against Rutgers.

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Speaker 4: What do we think?

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Speaker 2: I just like the thought of the drop of everything

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Speaker 2: about Indiana is bad.

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Speaker 7: It's terrible what they're covering today.

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01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you might hear that drop and thing man, what

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01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: does he have against Indianapolis or South Bend or Tarra

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01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 2: Road or man, I don't know, man, Okay, over there

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Speaker 2: though the Bloomington.

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Speaker 7: I need your help in the stands today. There's probably

2262
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Speaker 7: be the.

2263
01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 3: Only one of the stands for plus six plus.

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01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 7: This is a shame as special right here.

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01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:45,839
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is gross.

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01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:46,920
Speaker 7: This is gross.

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01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 2: Hey man, When you gotta like plug your nose and

2268
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 2: hold on, sometimes the nose is unplugged. A couple of

2269
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: quarters into that bad boys, So I hope that works

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Speaker 2: out for you. Everybody enjoyed the ball